1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to this week sixteen postgame edition of the from 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: the Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Klea. The Browns fell to 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals in Cincinnati on Sunday by a final score 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: of twenty four to six. On this episode, you'll hear 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: from head coach Kevin Stefanski, quarterback Dorian Thompson Robinson, and 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: defensive end Miles Garrett. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Up. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: First, head coach Kevin Stefanski. 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: Okay, obviously you turn the ball over in the red zone, 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: especially first one good drive going and turn it over 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: there on the one and then another good drive going, 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: a couple penalties, back u. 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: Up and throw an interceptions. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: So really disappointing to put ourselves in the hole there 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: when it comes from it comes to a turnover standpoint, 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: but just ultimately not going to put yourself in a position 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: to go get a win on the road. Not a 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: lack of effort, that's not the issue. It's it's a 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: lack of really protecting that ball. But without I'll take 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: any questions on No, it was just Calf. He was 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: feeling good enough. I played through, played through the whole 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: you know, didn't come out no, No, yeah, his shoulder 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: was sorry he he tried to get through it this week, 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: but it was sure. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: M if he's healthy and he should be. 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: Especially pressure. 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: But uh, I'd obviously have to look at it to 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: give you a really good answer on that, Scott, other 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: than to say, uh, they pressured us. We need to 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: do a better job in a bunch of different areas, 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: but bottom line, we do have to take care of 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: the football. 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 5: Different Yeah. 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: I thought he made some plays with his feet certainly, Uh, 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, got the got the quarterback out of the 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: pocket a few different times. 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 4: So I thought he, you know, made some place. 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: Is that the guy there to start a game? And 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: then well, it's frustrating, but you have a lot of 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: game left, so it's it's I wouldn't say it's deflating. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: I'd say it's it's frustrating because you have a good 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: thing going and we have to punch it in and 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: uh we cannot. We can't do that. That that's a 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: that that's really unacceptable. Yeah. I thought if we get 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: the ball back from that punt, we're going to be 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: backed up, and just felt like where we were offensively 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: made sense to with outfield position to just take it 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: to have time. 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: Against the guy just you know, just the way he you. 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: Know, he fought through a lot of things. 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Miles and the entire defense kept kept swinging. 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: Obviously some really good moments out there, taking the ball 53 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: away on when they had the ball in the one 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: I think it was or close to the goal line. 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: So appreciate how we're fighting, obviously, appreciate how Miles is 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: continuing to get after the passers and disrupting the pass 57 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: game and those type of things. But ultimately it's it's 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: frustrating to to come down here and and uh, you know, 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: without put ourselves in a position like we should Jerry 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: for sure, Yeah, definitely want to, definitely want Jerry to 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: touch the ball. M just got to continue to work 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: through it, and that's what we'll do. Yeah, Jerome, like 63 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: we've talked about, Mary, Kay continues to make big plays 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: for us, both in the in the past game and 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: in the run game. I thought he made, you know, 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: a really unbelievable play there on that scrambled Duran's going 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: to his left and he went up and got the ball. 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: So he continues to give us a spark. I'm not 69 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: going back, but. 70 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: Were a little bit more for the second half today. 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: It. 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely wanted to be smart with him coming 73 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: off of his injury, but the flow of the game 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: really kind of dictated as well. Anything conversation with me 75 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: and the players I would keep between us. Yeah, uh, 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: it's yeah, Mary Kay, I think it's uh, it's frustrating 77 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: because we know how important that ball is. We know 78 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: how important that the ability to take care of it 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: and the ability to take it away on defense, we 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: know how important that is. It's uh, you look at 81 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: that margin and you look at the the teams that 82 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: are winning and teams that are losing, and uh, it's 83 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: really it is frustrating because we put ourselves in that position. 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: We'll keep work, we'll keep our head down, we'll keep 85 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: working at it, but we have to understand that we 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: can't turn that ball over there, especially in the red zone. 87 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Mm hm, yes, so I'd have to look at all 88 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: those things. But yeah, the bottom line is we have 89 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 3: to as a team, we just have to put ourselves 90 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: in position to go win these things in the fourth quarter, 91 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: and we're just putting ourselves behind the apall. I didn't 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: have a great look at them, but you know again 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: that's those are self inflicted. Yes, one more time, of course. Yeah, 94 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean that's uh. I know this group that we have, 95 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: I know the locker room we have. Uh, these guys 96 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: love the opportunity to compete. U doesn't mean that we're 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: not frustrated by today, but we'll we'll put our head down. 98 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: And we'll go back to work next The quarterback Dorian 99 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson. 100 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: Were it seemed like second half it was a little 101 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: more comfortable out there. 102 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: Was that the case? 103 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: And how how'd you sort of find that comfort? 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 6: I think as a offense, Uh, we started to get 106 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: into a rhythm, a groove. Uh really started to produce 107 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 6: on first and second down, which helped us uh in 108 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 6: later downs. Uh come the second half versus the first. 109 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 6: But I mean that's what we've been preaching all week, 111 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 6: is starting fast. So uh we gotta get back to 112 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 6: the drawing board on that one. Yeah, the first one 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 6: to Dave my arm got hit. Couldn't get enough on 114 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 6: the ball, uh lest it would have been right there. 115 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: We were down on the clock, and UH just tried 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 6: to hurry up with the ball making sure we wouldn't 117 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 6: getting uh a delayed game, and uh, they they caught 118 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 6: us on the pressure. So Uh the second one, Uh 119 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 6: bone had mistake on my part. Uh trying to make 120 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 6: a play, get my best guy a shot uh with Dave, 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 6: and that's something we always harp on and preach me 122 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 6: and him personally, So just trying to give him a 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 6: shot in that moment, Uh didn't go our way, and 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 6: again that falls on me. 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: So it seems like a. 126 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 5: Lot of these turnovers, whether it have happened in the 127 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 5: red zone, w uh on drive on very promising drives. 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 5: Just can you put your finger on something? Is there 129 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: a commonality? I mean, is it something that you know 130 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 5: as you guys get closely to go and then you 131 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: know the pressure or something that you can you can 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: attribute to you know, maybe help Blu caught, you know, 133 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: be a contributing back into those turnovers. 134 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 6: I really just think it comes down to me, my 135 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 6: thought process, uh, my mentality when we get down there. 136 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 6: Obviously we wanna end with points and so I gotta 137 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 6: do a lot better job protecting the ball in those situations, 138 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 6: whether it's taking a sack and we forced to kick 139 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 6: a field goal or throwing the ball away. 140 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 7: So how a fut time like you have gotten the 141 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 7: ball to Jerry. 142 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 6: More than Yeah, when we go back and break down 143 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 6: the film, we'll see that they were doubling Jerry all day, 144 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 6: even the times where I was trying to get him 145 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 6: the ball. You know, they had some very aggressive corners. 146 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: We end up getting the flag on the second one, uh, 147 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 6: in the second half. But yeah, they were doing their 148 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 6: best to try and take away our best receiver. 149 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: Dream give you guys, and you know, some good yards 150 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: I in the running game. 151 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: Just how big is that as a quarterback, you know, 152 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: to to see that starting to develop and and what 153 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: can that do? You know in these last couple of 154 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: games that you know, maybe take a little pressure off 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: of you. 156 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: You know, in in the past year. 157 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, every offense needs to be able to run the 158 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 6: ball efficiently and effectively. 159 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 160 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 6: It it just helps everything else. It gets the old 161 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 6: line settled in. Uh obviously it gets me settled in. 162 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 6: But yeah, that that's a big part of any offense 163 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 6: is being able to run the ball. So it as 164 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 6: much as I can help in that, I would try 165 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 6: to do. 166 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: So what happened to Cavi? 167 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 7: Did it happen on the first time? 168 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 6: Uh, it's been bothering me for a few days and 169 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 6: just tried to play through it. 170 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: So and Kevin said, you. 171 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: Start if you're healthy. 172 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you will? 173 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 6: I'm playing in every any and every game. I'm practicing 174 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 6: every snap, every walk through, every meeting. I would be 175 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 6: there in attendance and i would have my full attention. 176 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 5: Really was up as the backup, and and Jamison was 177 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: the three Just the conversations between you guys, all three 178 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 5: of you on the sidelines. How did did much change 179 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: between the three of you as you know all other 180 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 5: than obviously you being the starter instead of of Jamis 181 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 5: did how much did things change in terms of that those. 182 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: Interactions on the sideline? Yeah, not much. 183 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 6: We built such a great foundation starting back when Deshaun 184 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 6: was playing on how we're gonna handle the sidelines, cause 185 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 6: you know, we have a new offensive staff now. Doris 186 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 6: who started on the sideline is now in the box 187 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 6: and being able to work with asking a lot more 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 6: and him being able to get hands on with us 189 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 6: on the film and the and the tape on the sideline. 190 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 6: So we I think we've built a great foundation as 191 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 6: a quarterback room, uh, to whoever is in the game. 192 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 6: Once they come on, we have a plan for them 193 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 6: to be able to tell them exactly what's going on 194 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 6: help break them down what we what we're seeing on 195 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 6: the sideline so it can help them out on the field. 196 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 6: What you wanted? 197 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 7: But how did you? 198 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 6: I mean, I can't cuss, but there's a word I 199 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 6: want to say. It wasn't a good day. I know 200 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 6: we had good moments, but good moments don't win football games. 201 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 6: Good moments are are not the definition of a quarterback. 202 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 203 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 6: Quarterback is there to play a complete, full game and 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 6: to lead his team to victory. And I did not 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: do so today. 206 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 207 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 6: We've, like I said, been harping all week on turnovers. 208 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 6: I had to myself regardless of what situation I was 209 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 6: put in. Uh, the balls in my hands and I 210 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 6: need to be able to distribute it properly so it 211 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 6: doesn't go to the other team. I thought the offensive 212 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 6: line did a great job helped me step up get 213 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 6: helping me with the protections. At times, I thought the 214 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 6: receivers did a great job outside blocking the perimeter. Obviously, 215 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 6: Jerome had a big few runs which helped us. But 216 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, we lost this game 217 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 6: off of turnovers. And I gotta do a better job 218 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 6: in that situation. 219 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 7: That you INTI game. Uh, what do you take away 220 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 7: from this today? 221 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it hurts, It's not gonna hurt no 222 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 6: more than this. So at this point it can only 223 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 6: get better and we're gonna, like I say, get back 224 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: to the drawing board tomorrow and uh try and correct 225 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 6: all the correctles. 226 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 5: So this time you start last year and denver, did 227 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: this start feel different? Did you feel more comforable this 228 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 5: turn around being your third career start or fourth career 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 5: start or or. 230 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: How did that? You know? 231 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: How that? 232 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 233 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 6: I think coming into the game, I had a really 234 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 6: good plan. I was seeing the defense really well. 235 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: You know. 236 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: Could I have settled down with the throws uh early 237 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 6: in the game and and just took some easy completions yes, Uh. 238 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 6: But I think overall, in terms of the operational things, 239 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 6: I don't know. Do we have any pre snap penalties 240 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 6: really today on the offense? I don't think so. So 241 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: we got that checked off the board. 242 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 243 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 6: But other than that, though, we have to be able 244 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: to protect the football. 245 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 7: So when you got into seventeen six and you were 246 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 7: driving there, h did you really feel like you guys 247 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 7: had a chance. 248 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 6: To to maybe out of course? I mean, shoot, we 249 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 6: we always feel like we have a chance until we don't. 250 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 6: And I even on that last drive, we're we're calling 251 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 6: no huddle, trying to score again even though the games 252 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 6: out of reach. So uh, that's just the mentality of 253 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: this team. That's the mentality that coach Defanski and the 254 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: culture that we set here, Uh, that we're always gonna 255 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 6: keep swinging. We're always gonna try and win the game 256 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 6: even uh, you know if things don't work out that way. 257 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 6: And uh, like I said, we just didn't get it 258 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: done today. 259 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 7: So and more, just that touchdown drive, does dad give 260 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 7: you some encouragement and in. 261 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: The next week once you get. 262 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: I mean we knew going in really into the second half, 263 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 6: we have to be better on first second down, the 264 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 6: second and long calls. They're sitting back in deep zones, uh, 265 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 6: and it's hard to push the ball down the field 266 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 6: when you're second and eleven plus every time third and fifteen. 267 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 6: So that's kind of what's shifted in the second half. 268 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 6: We got a lot better first second down production, whether 269 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 6: that was through play calling, whether that was do me 270 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: making better decisions or guys just being in the right spot. 271 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 6: So uh, that's something we'll look at going in the 272 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 6: next week. But uh, I think that's a positive from 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: the second half. 274 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: Was the first second down production for sure? How much 275 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: did that take out of the window? 276 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 6: Uh, you're talking about on the goal line. I I 277 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 6: didn't see it. I thought he scored. Rep said otherwise, 278 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 6: and uh, you know, we gotta forget about it, move 279 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 6: on to the next play. I don't I don't need 280 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 6: anybody over here in my ear about the interceptions. We 281 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: gotta move on to get to the next play. So 282 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 6: that's exactly what we're. 283 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 7: Gonna do for you during the game. 284 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: Did you. 285 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: Now? 286 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 6: Of course, I I encourage other guys to uh get 287 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 6: in my ear, and I actually told him, I need 288 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 6: you to to tell me what I'm doing bad, even 289 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 6: if I'm not doing something bad, like get on me. 290 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 291 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 6: I don't like being complimented. I don't like being told 292 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 6: what I did good. I need to know what I 293 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 6: I did bad that the good's gonna come. And so 294 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 6: that's exactly what he did. 295 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 296 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 6: He got in my butt a little bit at halftime, 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 6: and uh, we we came out firing. 298 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: So what about. 299 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: What was that? 300 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, when you are seeing your your best receiver getting 301 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 6: double treating, double team, triple teams, you know they they 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 6: had a definite plan for him, and you know it's 303 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 6: it's hard getting the ball sometimes when you know you 304 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 6: got two defenders sitting on either side of him. 305 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: So finally defensive end Miles Garrett, who recorded his one 306 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: hundredth career sack in the game. 307 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: I know this doesn't be much in. 308 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 7: A loss, but the fact that you reached a hundred 309 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 7: just address up. 310 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: You where you got back. 311 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: It makes my dad brown. That's for that was for Daddy, 312 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: So that that's what it means to me. You know, 313 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean much in a loss, but you know 314 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: I get to see him smile and get that accomplishment. 315 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: That's you know, he's been telling me to do it 316 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: for the last three weeks, so that Uh happy to 317 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: to get that one for him. 318 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: This ake they apply for being it was just unlt 319 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: get a bad twelve sacks and five street seas. 320 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean didn't know about all that. I mean, that's 321 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: that's a great company to be with. Definitely one of 322 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: the guys UH looked up to as a as a athlete, 323 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: as a football player, you know, coming up along my way, 324 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: and Uh, I'll still and watched clips and then watch 325 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: his his tenacity. I'd Ben says and all that. So, 326 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean that's a uh nice accomplishment. But you know, 327 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: we remember lt because he won and he did all 328 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: those things, and I wanna get get to winning the. 329 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 5: Plug on the sidelines with Joe, it looked like he 330 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: came up and sort of we're looking at your end. 331 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: Shaking your hand. 332 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: Did you did you? 333 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 6: Uh? 334 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: I mean, did you do something? 335 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: Do it or was it just sort of a momentary, 336 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: momentary thing kind of just had to s sort of you. 337 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: Know, I just located my finger in the game against 338 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: the Chargers. I can't I think it was the second 339 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: quarter or third quarter, but uh yeah, I did it again, 340 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: so you know it was it was hurting for a second, 341 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: but no, got it straightened back out and uh you know, 342 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: go back out there else. 343 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: You just make sure that you know, winning is the 344 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: most important. 345 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: Thing, is you're when you were very strong in your 346 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: comments on the friday. 347 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 7: Uh did you get any feedback from any. 348 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: One in the building about that? Did any anything like 349 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: you in the city of Staying. 350 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: Ah, those conversations that we'll be having at the end 351 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: of the season. So no, there's there's nothing that you know, 352 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: I said that anybody was unaware of and I always 353 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: been focused on winning. So you know that's just no more. 354 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: We'll we'll talk about no after last game. 355 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: So I think we. 356 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: Asked you some persons on parting. 357 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: When you have the finger of growing up or whatever. 358 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 7: Element you before you wait, like why is it work 359 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 7: for you to come back in and the thing work? 360 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: That's what you mean? 361 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 4: The record, it is what it is. 362 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: Sh it's it's important to represent the you know, the 363 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: team to take a chance on me. 364 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: Uh. 365 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: You know the brothers that fight, you know every single day, 366 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: they were you know I each in practice, uh mentally, physically, 367 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, going out there and uh, I'm I'm willing 368 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: to lay it all on the line for those guys 369 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: because you know I expect the same and there's no 370 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: quit in my blood. 371 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 372 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: That was raised like that. And I wanna be able 373 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: to represent the know the the colors that I wear 374 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: in the name of the back of my jersey. I want, 375 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: you know, my my my parents be proud, and you know, 376 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: I want to have kids. I want them to have 377 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: something to look back at. And you know I understand that, 378 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, adversity, it's just obstacles that doesn't have to 379 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: stop you to he was so he got to see 380 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: in person. Fortunately, no, you wanna. 381 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 6: Talk to hips about their plans. 382 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: So you know, turns around you how this is a 383 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 4: lot of people. Good question that. 384 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what the conversations for, you know, 385 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: that's what you making the plan is for. I know 386 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: we have a lot of uh, you know, ball players 387 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: on both both sides of the ball who can who 388 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: can make a h a difference. A lot of guys 389 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: young guys who have stepped up him and uh made 390 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: a name for themselves, those surely having a career year 391 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: know dtr Tho using his feet you know, which we 392 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: we knew he could do, but also make some throws. 393 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: I mean we we have, we have playmakers. It's just, 394 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: you know it, it all had to come together. And 395 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, there are a lot of a lot of 396 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: games where you know it this could be a you 397 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: know five six lost team or you know looking at 398 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, our twelve loss team. So it's it. Uh, 399 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: the margins are always slim in this game, in this league. 400 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: So you know, we have to have to find a 401 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: way to to turn it around. And we can't beat ourselves. 402 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: We have to get rid of this, uh, this turn 403 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: of a bug that we guy as well all. 404 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: Time you see on work? 405 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: What'd you see on that play where you heard your 406 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: finger look like you kind of flew at Joe? 407 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 4: Did you get to 'em before the sideline? Did you 408 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 4: say anything to you like, Uh, I've got to chase 409 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: so you think that. 410 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: You can get him, that's r I'm always thinking I 411 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: can get him, whether it's Joe or uh or it's LJ. 412 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 2: So I was just tryna make sure I I got 413 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: 'em before he got out of the sideline. You know, 414 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: definitely can't you know, beat no racking up yards for free. 415 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: You know, we've got to send a message every time. Uh, 416 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: you know we get out, get out there, then know 417 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: where we're coming from him. And that's just the the 418 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: hustle that uh, I feel like, I I aks you 419 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: and I I try to you know, make contagious. So uh, 420 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: it definitely wasn't trying to be you know, malicious anyway. 421 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm trynak kill him before he steps out of bounds. 422 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: But I'm I was trying to leve me his yards. 423 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: And uh, he didn't say anything about it, but you know, 424 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: just gave me that little that cool little smile. 425 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 7: So there's that some people took some of your comments 426 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 7: from Friday, uh and extract way then that perhaps you 427 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 7: were not supporting to showing lots of it. 428 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: Some of the things that you said was that anywhere 429 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: in there do. 430 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 7: Ye or how do you feel about Deshaun wantson if 431 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 7: he comes back and has a chance to compep Throt 432 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 7: can keep with the job with. 433 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, as long as he's ready and willing to 434 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: come back, you know, we'll gonna support you know, who's 435 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 2: ever behind center. So uh, it's not no dig at 436 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: to Shawn. That's just and I'm I'm hoping he's you know, 437 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: ready when the time comes, when I when the season comes. 438 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: But that's a that's a tough jury to come back from, 439 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: and we don't know his his timetable, but always uh, 440 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, hoping for the best, you know with him, 441 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: and you know, he's been a a hell of a 442 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 2: teammate and a hell of a person when he's been 443 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: in the the facility with us and even even off 444 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: the field, you know, helping support so many things that uh, 445 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: that we're passionate about. So there's there's definitely no dig 446 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: or any no smoke between him and uh last one 447 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: for the actually far ads. 448 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: Uh, some of the younger do you wanna may players today, like. 449 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: Long gets his firstar How old. 450 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: Were is that for them to take advantage of these 451 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 7: opportunities even. 452 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: And if it's the uh who's recent. 453 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean that's what we talk about, you know, finding 454 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: your why those young guys know, you shall have a 455 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: lot to prove. You know, just because of losing Seaton 456 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you're this doesn't go on your resume. 457 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: You know, this is all still part of your legacy. 458 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: You know, who are you going to know? When things 459 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: aren't going your way? You have to we have to 460 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: be able to put on the tape and set you're 461 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: the same guy, no matter the circumstances. And I think 462 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: you know some of the guys you know took that 463 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: to heart and uh you know jumped off the jumped 464 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: off the film on a couple of plays. So you know, 465 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: all those guys can be big playmakers for us. And no, 466 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: I think they're just taking those those steps. 467 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: That'll do it. For this episode of the From the 468 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: Podium podcast, be sure to like and subscribe to the 469 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: show wherever you get your podcasts. Keep it locked to 470 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns daily each weekday, and follow the Browns on 471 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: social media for more coverage from the Cross Country Mortgage 472 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: Campus right here in Berea. I'm Gabekolera. Thanks for listening 473 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: to the From the Podium podcast.