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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like CD Lamb and now your hosts Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us David Hellman, Bucky Brooks and Kyle Yeoman's It's

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Speaker 1: the Tuesday edition of the Draft Show here on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com, presented by Miller Litas. We are fifty

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Speaker 1: eight days away from the NFL Draft. A countdown is

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Speaker 1: under sixty and Brian, I'm sure under sixty is right

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Speaker 1: when it really starts heating up. It's already been heated up.

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Speaker 1: But how about the intensity and the feel right now

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Speaker 1: it is, And guys, thanks for having me back. I've

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Speaker 1: how to get tied use those tied pins. If you

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Speaker 1: got some of that Saint Elmo's cocktail sauce on your shirt.

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Speaker 1: You know we missed that this week too, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like that relates specifically to the front

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Speaker 1: bigger schools and the smaller schools. Continue on, Dave, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: their roster like this is a roster that can compete

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Speaker 1: right now if you have a quarterback, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you have, and that's defense, that's why you would

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Speaker 1: preferably use all those draft picks on fixing that and

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Speaker 1: keeping your very good quarterback here to keep your team afloat.

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Speaker 1: We're saying it, yeah, and then we'll figuring out next year.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly. That's that's exactly. We're in the leasing, not buying.

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Speaker 1: We just want to lease the car. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to buy it. We'll just check it out and if

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Speaker 1: we like the model again, we'll sign up for it again.

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Speaker 1: If not, we'll move off. This is interesting. We need

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Speaker 1: to sign a leasing company on I sure they probably

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Speaker 1: sponsorship listening to this. If you can figure it out,

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00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: let's get in contact, let's figure something out. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the debate that's been going on, Dave.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've been a part of the ship. I no, no,

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Speaker 1: I know that's the debate. I just thought my guys

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Speaker 1: were with me and they're not like that you just saw.

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Speaker 1: But with you. I love I love the player, but

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Speaker 1: at some point we have to pay. You got to

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Speaker 1: do his best for the franchise, right, Yeah, it's business

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00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: is business on both sides. And yeah, he's he's got

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Speaker 1: to want to sign though, too. He's got to want

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Speaker 1: to sign. He looks in the distance and he sees

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Speaker 1: free agency. You gotta he's got to want to sign.

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Speaker 1: It's just just just for the record. Like it again,

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Speaker 1: what do I want to sign? Dac? Of course I've

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Speaker 1: made that very clear. But we all But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're not, if you don't want to, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Move on. Invest in the future of the position, is

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Speaker 1: my point. Like the thought, the thought of saying we'll

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Speaker 1: just get to next year and figure it out is terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Who not like oh no, no, no, like, like, come on,

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Speaker 1: man it lands, Dave, you could just landscape what Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers they were talking about Aaron Rodgers being available? Come on?

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Speaker 1: Talking about and doing it are two different things. A

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Speaker 1: good quarterback, a truly great quarterback, has yet to get traded.

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Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong. Uh no, no, not a very

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Speaker 1: disappointing number one overall pick. Another very disappointing number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick, and a number two overall pick was the

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Speaker 1: worst starting quarterback in the league last year. Like, that's

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Speaker 1: who's gotten traded so far? When Russ or Rogers or

468
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson gets traded, come find me. But teams don't

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Speaker 1: let go of those guys. It's a possibility though it's

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Speaker 1: of those I would keep an eye on number three. Run. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I think that, I think that, I think that thing

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Speaker 1: with Russ is real because what you have is a philosophical,

473
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Speaker 1: philosophical difference in how to win games from the coach,

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Speaker 1: and the money just doesn't work with that. It's just

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Speaker 1: a quarterback get on either side. They would have to

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Speaker 1: eat forty million dollars worth of cap. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: would just not work out well. Now, I keep thinking

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Speaker 1: back whenever we have these conversations, whenever Dak Prescott's not

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Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty two, or like BET's assuming that,

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking of Chad Hutchinson, Quincy Carter, Anthony Dad.

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Speaker 1: I just say it was the Quincy Carter, Chad Hudsinson, Drew.

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Speaker 1: That's what Fleet, That's what wants Drew. But that's what

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Speaker 1: Byan wants to do. Yon wants to go back to

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Speaker 1: that one. I know those quarterbacks. Quarterbacks were not available. Sure,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take in Tom Brady in the fifth round,

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Speaker 1: and I'd still be a scouting probably, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's reality. That's reality. They got Dak Prescott in

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Speaker 1: the fourth round. It can happen. It's a different it

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Speaker 1: can happen. It's a different it's a different it's a

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Speaker 1: different time now, like you get quarterback. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: let's think about this, you lsu go Tigers guys. Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow came from the Crip to be the number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick, and so Matt Jones is going to experience

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Speaker 1: a similar magic carpet ride. He won't be number one overall,

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Speaker 1: but he's going to be drafted much I think any

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Speaker 1: of us would have expected prior to this season. And

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Speaker 1: so next year in twenty twenty two, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some other quarterback that shows up and we can be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's one of the best quarterback prospects that we've seen.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. So you're worried about what's behind

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Speaker 1: door number two, Dave, there's gonna be a quarterback behind

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Speaker 1: door number two. Let's make a deal and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: will be picking somewhere between fifteen and twenty four, and

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Speaker 1: they won't have a shot at they won't have a

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Speaker 1: shot out. You think it just gonna ends, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be picking thirty two guys. We're gonna we're gonna figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, if they're picking, if they're picking too high,

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Speaker 1: then they'll keep the quarterback. If they're picking like down

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Speaker 1: at the bottom, they'll keep the quarterback. If we all

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Speaker 1: have this completely, all start over my deck. It's ten

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Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Ruined my entire day. Thank you. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's ruin it a little bit more when we come

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Speaker 1: If Dat's not signed, which quarterback could fit the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: David Hellman is still sitting in his chair, thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: He did not get up and leave and thought about it,

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Speaker 1: end up pushing his responsibilities to Thursday, and he is

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Speaker 1: still a part of it even though he did think

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Speaker 1: on the twenty as always from Chris Beam in the back,

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Speaker 1: and the first question comes from Tony Baker. He said,

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Speaker 1: if the draft rolls around and Dak Prescott is not signed,

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Speaker 1: which quarterback would best fit the Cowboys system? Mister David Helman,

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Speaker 1: I'll push this toward you, and he said, should Dallas

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Speaker 1: trade up in this scenario? Okay? And I love this

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Speaker 1: question because, again, if you're not going to sign Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I looked this up. The Cowboys have only picked in

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Speaker 1: the top ten nine times and Jerry Jones it doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen all that often. Like obviously we all know they

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00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: haven't reached the mountaintop. But they're usually not bad enough

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Speaker 1: to be this high in the draft. That's what makes

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Speaker 1: this a unique opportunity. Trevor Lawrence is out of the question,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, maybe I'm buying too much into the hype,

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Speaker 1: but I tend to think Zach Wilson's probably out of

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Speaker 1: the question at this point as well, And that leaves

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Speaker 1: you with the choice of Justin Fields or Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, again, like, am I confident that either one

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Speaker 1: of them is going to be a star in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily, but I'm happy to take that risk to

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Speaker 1: make sure I have a quarterback because despite what Brian

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Speaker 1: and Bucky think, I just don't think you can find

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Speaker 1: those guys every single offseason in the NFL. I don't

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Speaker 1: think good ones are made available very often. I will

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Speaker 1: readjust my expectations if I'm proven wrong. But if you

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Speaker 1: tell me that next year's you know, if I could

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Speaker 1: package some of my picks this year to get up

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Speaker 1: like to say seven or eight, that's great or even

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Speaker 1: you know, like if in Atlanta, let's say Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: is sitting there at for Atlanta decides they don't want

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Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback in the future, they want to

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Speaker 1: give Matt Ryan a few more years. I'd give up

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Speaker 1: next year's one to go up there and get Justin Field.

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Speaker 1: Tell you I would, why the hell not? And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: like that's the type of stuff that I would consider

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Speaker 1: if Dak Prescott is not under contract for sure, Bucky, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields would be to play. I think

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Speaker 1: he would be the move just because one, he's talented,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's some similarities in his game in

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's game. I think he's a more explosive athlete

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Speaker 1: in college than Dak Prescott was, even though Dak was

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Speaker 1: really really good in terms of what he did in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. And I just think, depending upon how you

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Speaker 1: want to build this offense, I think he could give

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Speaker 1: you a lot of the new school stuff that you want,

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Speaker 1: and so I would go for him. Trey Lance, to me,

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Speaker 1: is very, very talented, but I think it's a different

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Speaker 1: conversation if he comes to the building just because of

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Speaker 1: his lack of overall experience. When you only have seventeen starts,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to understand what you're going to get.

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Speaker 1: And I think you can say the same thing for

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones because he only has seventeen starts as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think though you have to think about the thing

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Speaker 1: that I saw with Trey Lances. He's got some Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott like trades though, big guy physical runs over people.

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Speaker 1: The more you let him play in the game, the

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Speaker 1: better he tends to play. Ball really comes off his hands.

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Speaker 1: You know, probably a kid that practiced, you know, lived

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Speaker 1: in cold weather or something not that he you know,

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Speaker 1: has to. But you always want a quarterback in paths

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Speaker 1: at least that experience because you do play in the

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Speaker 1: the NFC East, where you play outdoors at Washington in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: New York. You know those are You don't want those

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Speaker 1: things to be shocks to your body. I'll throw a

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Speaker 1: name out there, though it doesn't have to be a

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Speaker 1: first round guy. And I studied this kid and I

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Speaker 1: really like his game. Davis Mills from Stanford is a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that's there's a lot to like about his game

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, as far as the ability the touch

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Speaker 1: he takes shots down the field, he could be accurate.

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Speaker 1: He's got enough escapability. He's a smart kid, he's a

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Speaker 1: good ball handler, looks like he protects the football. There

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00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: were a lot of things I really liked about his game,

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Speaker 1: and I think the more you dig in to some

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Speaker 1: of these second, third, fourth round guys, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a risk than taking a guy

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Speaker 1: trade up situation. But I think we also we are

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Speaker 1: all focusing on that guy, the Trey Lance the Fields.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you guys about those players, but

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Speaker 1: I think you need to also kind of take a

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Speaker 1: look at those other guys down and again, Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: from Stanford was a kid that I really took a

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Speaker 1: liking to. He was a bit of a dark horse

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Speaker 1: in this class. Whenever he came to the quarterbacks, it

637
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: was really those top guys and then the guys who

638
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: were at the Senior Bowl, and then Davis Mills was

639
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: kind of about a nowhere. Hey, hello, here he is.

640
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: And I watched all the quarterbacks again this week, and

641
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: he throws a really nice ball. I love the way

642
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: he connects with his receivers. He gives them an opportunity

643
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: for yards after the catch, and he's got that flick

644
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: of the ris uh and some solid arm strength as well.

645
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: And plus and you guys were talking about justin fields.

646
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: We're going through our draft magazine and our rankings and

647
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: things I have. Justin Fields is my number two quarterback

648
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: above Zach Wilson. Call me crazy. I don't feel I'm

649
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: not bought in on the one year wonder just yet

650
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: of Zach Wilson. I think you be a solid quarter

651
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: but I think Justin Fields is just a better prospect overall. Yeah,

652
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: you're not You're not crazy. I mean, let's let's be

653
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: honest about Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson was a three star

654
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: recruit in high school. Zach Wilson did some things in flash,

655
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: but he had a social year. In fact, he was

656
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: competing for his job heading into this season, and so

657
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: I don't think he is what he's being made out

658
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: to be. I think he is a very talented player.

659
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: But I think whatever holes you want to poke in

660
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Justin Fields this game, you can poke similar holes or

661
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: different holes in Zach Wilson's game. And so I think

662
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: all these those two guys are in the same clus.

663
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of one is probably a little

664
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: more conventional in terms of how he plays. Zach Wilson

665
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: is like a ready a player, but sizewise, he's only

666
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: two and ten two hundred and fifteen pounds. Compared to

667
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: Justin Fields two twenty five to thirty, a thicker, denser athlete.

668
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: I think at some point you have to have those

669
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: conversations about him. No, by the way, he wasn't a

670
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: captain before his team. It may not mean a lot

671
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: to some people, but it's still means a lot to

672
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: me that he wasn't the captain of his team, even

673
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: though he may have served them leave. I'm a big

674
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Wilson fan, but people are just hoping and banking that

675
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: he is another Mahomes because he can do that. He

676
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: can do that freaky stuff. He can make the off

677
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: schedule throws and throw at sixty yards off his back foot,

678
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and that's that's all it is in

679
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, yeah, the only thing. Yeah, the thing

680
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: I think you have to caution us when we compare

681
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, Like I do believe level of competition and

682
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: who you play matters. Like the only big game that

683
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: by you played was close to Carolina, and in that

684
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: game he has some flashes, but he didn't have it

685
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: and it was the first time that he really got

686
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: touched up as we like to say, like he got

687
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: hit in the Coastal Carolina game. And he didn't play

688
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the same way that he played against all those other teams.

689
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: I think it's an Apples to Orange comparison because we

690
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: never get to see the gas pay against the same slate.

691
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: But I think he is a little overvalue just in

692
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: terms of what he's bringing to the table and how

693
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: he's been pushed up the boards to the number two spot.

694
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: And it's like, without question, he's certainly a walking highlight

695
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: reel and he's gonna be picked up and somebody's gonna

696
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: take a chance on him early. But I just have

697
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: justin fields before him, because of the experience, because of

698
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: the trades, because of the consistency that he did it with,

699
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better than what Zach Wilson had.

700
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: All Right, this next question I really like, and this

701
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: comes from Christian. He says, if we don't go cornerback

702
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys in the first and instead double

703
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: dipping corner in the next couple of rounds, are there

704
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: two cornerbacks that you guys would like to see in

705
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: rounds two, three, and four. It kind of like how

706
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: we did in twenty seventeen with Cheetoowoozier and Jordan Lewis

707
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: and even last year with Trayvon Diggs and Reggie Robinson.

708
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: Are there guys in that day two, Day three mix

709
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: that intrigue you at corner Bucket, I'm really hung up

710
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: on like these bloodline kids, legacy kids. Elijah Molden to

711
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: me is someone that's really really interesting, but he's interesting

712
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: in a role. I think he's the best nickel corner

713
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: in the draft. I think his experience in the way

714
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: that he plays fits the way that dan Quinn wants

715
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: to play. He's tough, he's athletic. He does a great

716
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: job of playing in that slot position because I think

717
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: you have to have a resume of playing in there

718
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: to know if someone can do it well. He has that,

719
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: and so his experience and expertise in that role. He

720
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: is someone that would be very, very intriguing for me

721
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: because when you think about being in nickel situations, about

722
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: seventy percent of a time that nickel corner is a starter. Well,

723
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I draft a starter

724
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: at that position, provided that you're able to find someone

725
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: on the other side of the Trayvon Digs or you

726
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: bring one of the guys back to continue to play. Yeah,

727
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what's going to happen? Excuse me?

728
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: With the Clemson kid, you know, now he is he

729
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: was supposed to return and now he is you know been,

730
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh he's out. Yeah, Kendrick, you know Kendrick is. And

731
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: so I wonder what his situation is going to be

732
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: because I remember evaluating him. That's a talented guy right there.

733
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: So there's another guy you add to the mix. But

734
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm also and you talk about those kind of those

735
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: second round guys to me. Melopom Wu from Syracuse, I

736
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: mean sixty three, two hundred and fifteen pounds. I mean,

737
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: there is a lot to like about his gay Bucky

738
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: mentioned Molden. I mean, I absolutely love him. I have

739
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: him in the same range. Greg Newsome from Northwestern. I mean,

740
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: there these are some kids that if you get to

741
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: forty four, and you know, my hope, if you're gonna

742
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: double on this thing, don't double like, don't make it

743
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: a thing like, oh, we're gonna take two corners and

744
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: take one in the first and then take one in

745
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: the fifth. If you're gonna do it, big, bang it,

746
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: bang it, you know, do both of them, go at

747
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: ten and go at forty four, And you know that's

748
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: the way, you fix the position right there, because when

749
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: you look at your board when we get to forty four,

750
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks are gonna be just like blinking lights, like

751
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: take me, take me, take me, you know that kind

752
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: of thing. And seriously, it's like we're gonna get in

753
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: the draft. If Bucky's gonna be doing TV and we're

754
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna be doing this or whatever, and if Bucky's gonna say, Bucky,

755
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: who's your best player, best available player, He's gonna start

756
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: talking about these quarters. So make sure you kind of

757
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: grab those guys early. But it does stretch, but man,

758
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: the quality of them needs to be addressed early. Yeah,

759
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: that's I'll just add. I mean, I think y'all covered

760
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: it beautifully. Ill. I mean, I feel like we haven't

761
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: mentioned the Stanford guy Pauls and Nadevo. That's another name

762
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: that I would consider like. And then I'm in love

763
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: with the idea of getting good value at pick forty four.

764
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: I think I've brought this up before, but if somebody

765
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: like Tyson Campbell were to fall to me in the

766
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: second brown, I'm I'm ecstatic about a pick like that.

767
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: But my thing is, if you're double dipping on cornerback

768
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: man I hope you did some work in free agency

769
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: because even even when they double dipped with Cheeto and Jordan,

770
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: they had veterans here. I'm not saying they were great,

771
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: but you had Anthony Brown, you had Orlando Scandrick, you

772
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: had Nolan Carroll. They even traded for ben abin Wickery

773
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: that year just to cover themselves. Right now, you got

774
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, and I guess you got Reggie Robinson, who

775
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: they moved to safety. Like that's really it in terms

776
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: of Jesus. Yeah, Trayvon Diggs, of course, thank you. Point being,

777
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: you just don't. You don't have the same level of bodies.

778
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: So like, if you want to bring back Cheeto or Jordan,

779
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: more power to you. Or if you want to go

780
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: get somebody else, but help dipping, because you need both

781
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: of those guys to contribute early because history suggests that

782
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: they don't. Well. No, But but then again, Dave, we're

783
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: drafting at ten. If you're talking first, if you're talking

784
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: first and second round, absolutely, Trayvon was picked fifty one.

785
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you know, even Jordan Lewis, it took

786
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: him a long time to get his feet wet. Again.

787
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: We were all sky high about Reggie Robinson drafted in

788
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the fourth round. The guy played like one defensive snap

789
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: all seasons. So the later you get and especially what cornerback,

790
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: for my money, is the hardest position in football other

791
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: than maybe quarterback. So the further you go from the

792
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: first round, the less good I feel about it. Like

793
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: you're you know, pick ten and pick forty four are

794
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: probably the only spots where I would expect that guy

795
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: to be a regular starter right away. I'd be okay

796
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: with a corner at forty four because there are guys

797
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, Brian went through a bunch of

798
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: names like Newsome, and even if one of these other

799
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: guys and Samuel Samuel, yeah, like a stove Cable is

800
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: a guy. I don't know if anybody likes Lenore from Oregon.

801
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a shorter guy, that's a competitive sum

802
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: a gun. There's there's pockets of these quarterbacks that like

803
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: it's like pockets of wide receivers. You know, you feel good,

804
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: I mean you do you feel good? Like, oh, second round,

805
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: third round. You look at your board when you put

806
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: it up, and you're going, man, there are a lot

807
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: of good players are in that third round, you know,

808
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: and you know, guys who might even get picked in

809
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: the second round, you know, from that from those spots.

810
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: I think the only way I would feel more comfortable

811
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: about a pick a corner at forty four is if

812
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: they go offensive tackle at ten. If they wanted to

813
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: try and show up the offensive tackle at ten, Yeah,

814
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I'd be okay there because there are starting corners at

815
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: forty four. Are there starting starting caliber offensive tackles at

816
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: forty four and in the in the third round? Probably not?

817
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: Do you think about Eikenberg from what do you think

818
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: about the Notre Dame Notre Dame, What do you think

819
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: about Leatherwood? I mean, those are all guys I kind

820
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: of feel like might fall out of that that first round,

821
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: early second round type of guy. Uh, maybe I'm too

822
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: low on Jenkins, you know, I kind of see there's

823
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: a pocket of guys there for that. If if that's

824
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: the round I think, I think. I think if you're

825
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and if you're thinking about offensive tackle, if

826
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: it's a consideration, which it should be, go and get

827
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: one of the best ones. Like no, that's around because

828
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: because you're talking about like I agree, agree, you're talking yeah,

829
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: long term long term investment behind Tyron Smith whatever, like,

830
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and get go ahead and get one. Get

831
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: a dude, spend the capital to get one. So you

832
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: can feel good about that offense. Because, let's be honest,

833
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: we can talk about fixing the defense. Fixing the defense

834
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: is a multi year project. The best thing that the

835
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys can do to fix their defense is to make

836
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: sure that their offense can put it thirty burgers up

837
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: on everybody and make people chase points and do those things.

838
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: And so sometimes you build strength on strength. Make sure

839
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: that the offense is ready to go and they can

840
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: put up points each and every week, and then it's

841
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot easier to rush the pass or do those

842
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: things when they're obvious passing situations. I love it, Bucky.

843
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Bucky's a part of forty team forty Burger Dave, how

844
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: about matter? It doesn't that make you feel better from

845
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: after that first moment? No, because Bucky just said you

846
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. But he's like, well, yeah, you need

847
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: a great quarterback. So that's probably what we should do.

848
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: But let's you got one. You got one for one year,

849
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: got one year? Then were my mind today? That's oh

850
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: this it's fine. He's Kawhi Leonard rats. He's Kawhi Leonard.

851
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: We're just trying to win the ship this year. Then

852
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: we get figured it out afterwards, and look what the

853
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: scout cornerbacks on the Draft show next year. Yeah, yeah,

854
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: can figure out how to do the salary cap. We'll

855
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: figure it out. Got a really fun question, and I

856
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: know we're cutting into pet cat time. We may only

857
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: hit a couple pet cats, but we'll do it again

858
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: next week as well. But this comes from Red and

859
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I like this question a lot. He said, what's your

860
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: favorite same school tandem that you would like to see

861
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: a team take? And he said, for instance, his vote

862
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: was Northwestern with Rashon s Later Greg Newsome offensive tackle, cornerback.

863
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: We just talked about those two guys in their their

864
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: position groups, but is there a same school tan them

865
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: that you guys can see the Cowboys potentially looking at

866
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: throughout the quick Oh just just just for us. Oh okay,

867
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you what I've loved. And this

868
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: is selfish. This is completely selfish. This is completely selfish.

869
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I love I love Kama from Notre Dame. I love

870
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. And I mentioned the tackle and I think

871
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: the tackle is going to be a really really good

872
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: one too. That's a really kind of a cool combination.

873
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: It's a linebacker that I think it's gonna play safety.

874
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, But if you just talk about football players,

875
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: I ain't Notre Dame has done a really good job

876
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: of putting some guys out. I know everybody right now

877
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: there's losing their mind about Jalen Smith or whatever. But

878
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: this team, that their offensive lineman that they put out,

879
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: they've done a great job. This linebacker looks like to

880
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: me linebacker safety is you could do a lot with him.

881
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: I do like the combination of those two guys right there.

882
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: I think you can even I think you can even

883
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: look at the combination. I hope I don't take somebody's

884
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: here with If you talk about Barbore, answer Tan, I

885
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: mean something, I mean, some somehow, some way that if

886
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: you got back on the trade. I mean there's yeah,

887
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: if you got back into back into that draft. But

888
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: that's a that would be a pretty good fixable combination

889
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: right there for you. I mean, Alabama is going to

890
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: be the easy answer, just because there's like a dozen

891
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, you know, if you give me

892
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Curtain and Barmore, how about Curtain and Leatherwood Lan. I

893
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: don't love Dylan Moses. I mean I would maybe as

894
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: long as it's like geez, as long as I don't know,

895
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I would draft him in the top

896
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: one hundred, but yeah, sure either way. Um, how about okay,

897
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: how about Washington? If you told me I could get oh,

898
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: if you told me I could get LEVI own Urine

899
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and uh and Elijah Weldon on this Yeah, at the

900
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: same time. Absolutely, I'd be here for that. Yeah, there

901
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: you go, there you go. Oh man, you took mine.

902
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm now scrambling to find another one. I was thinking

903
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: maybe Richie Grant at UCF and then maybe taking one

904
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: of his teammates. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking maybe those

905
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: two guys, and that would sure up the backside of

906
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: your safety s excuse me, your secondary. So I mean

907
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: there are plenty of tandems I think throughout the draft.

908
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a fun topic to think about because

909
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: you don't normally see that, and we saw it last year.

910
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys went with first round pick Ceedee

911
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Lamb and then Neville Gallimore in the third, So we

912
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: saw a tandem of teammates coming to Dallas. And so

913
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily out of the question to see someone

914
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: take a couple of guys from the same school, all right,

915
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916
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961
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: has got some pet cats that he's going to talk

962
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: about at each of the positions, and we're gonna start

963
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: kind of going through through these. We only have ten

964
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965
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: from week to week as well. But we all have

966
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: our pet cats. It's gotten to that point where the

967
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,120
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968
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,160
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969
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: these boards together, so the pet cats are starting to

970
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of come to fruition. And Bucky, are there any

971
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: specific guys that kind of stick out even out of

972
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: your pet cats? The pet cats of the pet Cats

973
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: of the pet Cats. I think it's funny because I

974
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: am now becoming a strong proponent of let's not draft

975
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: any wide receivers in the first round, because it's been

976
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: proven that we can find so many other guys outside

977
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: of the first round that can play. Rashad Bateman is

978
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: a guy that I think can be big time at

979
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: the next level. When I look at him, just his hands,

980
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: his ability due to dirty work outside the numbers, between

981
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: the hashes. He catches all the fifty fifty balls that

982
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: you want to see, and then he has some run

983
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: after catchability. When I look at the success that Michael

984
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: Thomas and A. J. Brown have had in the league,

985
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: I just think there's always a place on your team

986
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: for a guy who has that kind of ability as

987
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 1: a number one receiver. I'll tell you what, Bucky Man,

988
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: it's the packer way right receiver in the first round. Right.

989
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: What do you mean? It's like I've come around at

990
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: that realization and this is something it's ingrating you when

991
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: you started scouting. Don't let me get away with that.

992
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: No you don't think Bateman's a first round receiver? Oh no, No,

993
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm just busting a Bucky because he okay, I don't know,

994
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: like when you when you list those guys, like when

995
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: you see the top five's like he's not always included

996
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: in that list, you like he's I think Bucky's got

997
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: him right. I think Bucky's got him right. I really do.

998
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I think he You watch him play, there's some nastiness

999
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: to his game, you know, and I give me those.

1000
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: It's always funny because maybe this is something we learned

1001
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: to green Bay. Give me the cold weather, no sleeves,

1002
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: tough snow fly and that guy make it plays when

1003
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: conditions are bad. This kid is that way. He plays

1004
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: in nasty days and is super super productive. I think

1005
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: Bucky's got him right, I really do. I love the kid.

1006
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Me perse ironic that you know, people say stuff like that.

1007
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: And the guy that put green Bay on his back

1008
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: for the entire nineties is from southern Mississippi. But you know, yeah,

1009
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: he hated cold weather. He actually he told you what. Yeah,

1010
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: he said one time you each put vasiline on her

1011
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: face as stuffy after a game. He said he put

1012
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: vasili in places he never thought he would. Talking about

1013
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: Brett Farr for anybody that's lost anyway, I'm actually surprised.

1014
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought I was going to be rocking

1015
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: the boat by bringing up wide receiver because obviously it's

1016
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: not a huge need for this team. But you're sitting

1017
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: here thinking, you know, we're talking about what to do

1018
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: about Michael Gallup. You know, maybe you trade him, maybe

1019
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: you let him walk. So if you're a good drafting team,

1020
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: you solve your issues a year ahead of time. Guys,

1021
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: by the way, just like I said about quarterback, so

1022
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: a guy that I would love, and I know he's

1023
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: not going to be a first round pick, but a

1024
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: guy that I would love to see them draft in

1025
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: the interest of protecting themselves. If Michael Gallup leaves. What

1026
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: do y'all think about Tyland Wallace? Yeah? Yeah, if you

1027
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: if you told me I could get that guy with

1028
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: a third round pick, I would be ecstatic. H I

1029
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: think he is an excellent jump ball guy. That's what

1030
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: Gallup is good at. Like he's gonna go up and

1031
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: get those fifty fifty balls. He plays bigger than his

1032
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: size in my opinion, he's awesome after the catch, like

1033
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: he breaks tackles all the time. Oklahoma State, of course,

1034
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: they're you know, big twelve offense. They love to run

1035
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: those bubble screens to their receivers. I would. And he

1036
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do anything as a rookie. I mean,

1037
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: if you get something from him, great, But he can

1038
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: just be on the team and develop, and you know,

1039
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: you plug him right in as a starter next year

1040
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: and let Gallup go for a cop pick. That's that's

1041
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: good team building right there. That that's something that would

1042
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: excite the hell out of me. Doesn't bother you, doesn't

1043
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: bother you really quickly. Here with Wallace, the fact that

1044
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: he is a receiver that relies on the contact, that

1045
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: relies on pinpointing of football. But he's also under six

1046
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: foot Dave. That's I mean, that's why I said he

1047
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: played is bigger than his size, Like, yeah, he's he's

1048
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: not this big bodied dude. But I mean, you know,

1049
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, he did so in the Big twelve, though

1050
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: not in Yeah, I mean, go Gallup is kind of similar.

1051
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't I think Gallop is bigger than Wallace,

1052
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: but Gallup isn't this big, boxy wide receiver. So a

1053
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: lot of that, a lot of that's about mindset, in

1054
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: my opinion. So yeah, I mean, you know, I guess

1055
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: I wish he was bigger, but it doesn't concern me.

1056
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I think when you're digging his background, the fact that

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: he was a state champion or a state runner up

1058
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: in the triple jump, Yeah, almost a fifty foot jump.

1059
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: He can go take those things. So that speaks to

1060
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: his explosiveness and some of that other stuff. And so

1061
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: when guys are sub six foot, you try and look

1062
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: and see what other things that have that that enlabels

1063
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: him to play above the rim. He could play bigger

1064
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: than his eyes. I think he's a good player, and

1065
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: I think coming off of the Aco, I think two

1066
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: years ago, next year, his rookie season, he will return

1067
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: to the forum that really made us kind of fall

1068
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: in love with his talent when he was at Oklahoma State. Kyle,

1069
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: if I could get a real quick guy album, I

1070
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: think I pronounced this Alum McNeil from North Carolina State.

1071
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that plays a true

1072
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: nose position. He's literally breathing the same air as the center.

1073
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: He's that close to this guy's face, and so I

1074
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: think he looks bigger than three hundred and eighteen pounds

1075
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: when I've got listed at the first step quickness, the

1076
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: I mean he's nifty for his size. He's not gonna

1077
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: let the grass die under his feet. He's always playing

1078
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: on the move. He's good with his hands. He's a

1079
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: powerful guy. He could push, he could rush. His sack

1080
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: numbers are not going to be huge, but man, I

1081
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: mean you talk about the push, not let you run

1082
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: the ball on him. Get to the outside, make those

1083
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: edge plays, take up blocks, help your linebacker. Alan McNeil

1084
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: from North Carolina State. Where's number twenty nine. It's so

1085
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: funny to see a guy that big wearing that number.

1086
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: But he's a really good football player. My pet cat

1087
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: all the all the single digits were out. That's why

1088
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: he can get it. Like a big guy like that,

1089
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: he needs like a number eight, need to make stretch it,

1090
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: stretch it all the way out so you can see

1091
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: it right. He's the only or him and Marvin Wilson

1092
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: are the only two players in the entire interior defensive

1093
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: line class that were a number in the twenties. So

1094
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. But I love McNeil as well,

1095
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: and I just imagine him playing alongside Nevill Gallimore and

1096
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill as the three techniques and having him as

1097
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: like a true nose tackle one technique. Oh my gosh,

1098
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: I would love that. And I think that's that would

1099
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: even have a chance to solve your run defense if

1100
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys, Now, where are you gonna get him?

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: Forty four might be a little too high. I don't know,

1102
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: it may be a little too low. It just kind

1103
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: of depends on it overall. But I like him. He's

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: my number two defensive tackle behind Barmore. That was gonna

1105
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: be That was gonna be my question, Brian. You know

1106
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I love to ask you where can I get him?

1107
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: And I have a hard time believe in the Cowboys

1108
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: are gonna draft a nose tackle in the top fifty,

1109
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: maybe in the third round though, if you tell me

1110
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: third round, oh no, I think I think. I think

1111
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: things have switched over there a new chime. I do

1112
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: believe this is where coaches are going to be really

1113
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: aft because we saw, we saw what happened with Rod

1114
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: Mirnola in that crew. It'll be interesting what happens. And

1115
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying McNeil day three or anything like that.

1116
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a Day two guy clearly. But what's

1117
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen is what kind of influence the coaches have

1118
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: in rounds three, four, and five. That's where that's where

1119
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: coaches get brought in. Hopefully the new regime has a

1120
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: better understanding of what they want in a player at

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00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: that time. I think the scouts are gonna say, give

1122
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: us names, give us guys, give us who you like,

1123
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have those discussions. I think the regime

1124
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: in the past would prohibit them from getting really good

1125
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: players because they just didn't see him as scheme fits.

1126
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: I think this group is totally different in that way.

1127
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: Which position would you rather have that is that would

1128
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: be out of the ordinary for a top fifty pick

1129
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: at forty four? Would you rather have an interior defense

1130
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: Lindman or a safety? I mean out of this class?

1131
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: I will, you know, like we play Brian freaking out

1132
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: about lamb On at the top of the show every week,

1133
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: if Richie grants the pick at forty four, I will

1134
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: do that. I will freak the hell out. Oh they

1135
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: took So that's my that's my answer. I've been waiting

1136
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: for this team to invest in a safety since I

1137
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: started working here. Yeah, I don't. I don't really understand

1138
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: the lack of love for safeties. I think it is

1139
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: one of the more important positions on defense. I don't

1140
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: stand why it's not prioritized. Going all the way back

1141
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Brown Brothers, you guys put this stuff in our head

1142
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: that you can't take a safety high and all this

1143
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: other stuff. Oh Man, I'll tell you what that was Wolf.

1144
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: That wasn't me Man hey Man nineteen ninety two, I said,

1145
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Timpy Arizona, Dared Woodson. He was a linebacker running like

1146
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: four two something on that grass, beautiful grass by the way,

1147
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: at that stadium in Arizona. You can get those guys

1148
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: flying on that stuff. But yeah, safety is important, Bucky,

1149
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: you're blaming me for something that Ron Wolf did not love,

1150
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: throwing shots at Ron Wolf to conclude, love it. Yeah,

1151
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: what wouldn't wouldn't want in any other way here on

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Speaker 1: the Draft show, especially thanks to everybody who tuned in.

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Speaker 1: We will be back, of course with this group next Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: ten am Central Time. And uh, by the way, guys,

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday's March ninth. That sounds like a pretty fun day.

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Speaker 1: Oh a lot of people. So that's right, we'll be

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: on welpay tag deadline and so we can talk about

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Speaker 1: it some more. And annoyed David Helman a little bit

1159
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Speaker 1: more but for Dave, for Bucky Brooks, for Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: for Chris being back in the studio. I'm Kyle Yomen

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Speaker 1: saying so long, thanks for joining us here on the

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