1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show our number three, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: A lot of you weighing in eight hundred and two 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: A two two eight eight two. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: President Trump set to speak soon on affordability related issues. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: We have got a couple of different breaking news stories 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: that I wanted to hit you guys with first of all, 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: and it seems like this is kind of a significant story. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Alena Haba, who is the state attorney I believe for 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey U S Attorney for New Jersey I believe 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: is their official title. According to Mary Margaret Olahan, who 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: we have had on the program quite a bit, she 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: is a Daily Wire reporter, there was a attack at 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: the US Attorney's office and a suspect entered the building 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: with a baseball bat around five pm yesterday, proceeded to 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Elena A. Habba's office. But Pam Bondi says, this is 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: in the last last hour or so these details coming 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: out Attorney General last night. An individual attempted to confront 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: one of our US attorneys Habba, destroyed property in her 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: office and fled the scene. Thankfully Alena is okay. So again, 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: left wing violence is certainly an issue, and we're glad 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: that Alena Habba is okay, but somebody showing up with 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: a bat and attacking the office is something obviously very 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: very serious. Other news, John Fetterman's office put out this statement. 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: During an early morning walk, Senator Fetterman sustained a fall 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: near his home in Braddock, Pennsylvania. Out of an abundance 27 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: of caution, he was transported to a hospital in Pittsburgh. 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Upon evaluation, it was established he had a ventricular fibrillation 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: flara that led to him feeling light headed, falling to 30 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the ground, hitting his face with minor entered injuries. He 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: is still hospitalized. This is a funny quote. Senator Fetterman 32 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: had this to say, if you thought my face looked 33 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: bad before, wait until you see it now. So that 34 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: is John Fetterman. He's doing well, receiving routine hospital observations, 35 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: and they are adjusting potentially his defibrillator in the way 36 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: that I would imagine that that works inside of his body. 37 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Reminds me Buck that quote, if you thought my face 38 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: to look bad before, wait until you see it now, 39 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: one of the all time great rejoinders from Abraham Lincoln. 40 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember this quote? He was accused of being 41 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: two faced, and his response was, do you think if 42 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: I had two faces, I would wear this one? Which, 43 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: again I'm paraphrasing, but a pretty witty comeback that reminded 44 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: me of what John Fetterman was saying there. Now, remember 45 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: how we talked buck about Michelle Obama. Every time she speaks, 46 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: making herself less likely, she less like a bull. She 47 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: is continuing to speak and drive down her overall likability 48 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: every single time that she speaks. So I thought we 49 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: could have fun with this and play this cut. Michelle 50 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Obama said, I've got a couple of cuts that are crazy. 51 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: But Michelle Obama said, Black female beauty is so powerful 52 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: we are owed respect. Cut one. 53 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: We have to start educating people about all kinds of beauty. Yes, 54 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: and our beauty is so powerful and so unique that 55 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: it is that it is worthy of a conversation, and 56 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: it's worthy of demanding the respect that we're old for 57 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: who we are and what we offered to the world. 58 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Whatever I mean. First of all, every man on the planet, 59 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: trust me on this is aware of beauty. There's nobody 60 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: out there was like, hey, you know, I didn't know 61 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: this woman was attractive. But this is the toxic nature 62 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: of identity politics where she's arguing basically because of my 63 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: race that we that we have to be respected. And 64 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I just you read her PhD or whatever the thesis 65 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: that she wrote. 66 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, undergraduate Princeton thesis. Okay, no, no PhD. 67 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: She went to law school, right, she went to Harvard 68 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: for law school. That's where she met Barack Obama. 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: Right. I know she was an attorney and he was 70 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: an associate and they met at the firm, but he 71 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: was older when he went back to law school, I 72 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: think is the story. 73 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: She at one point had a job at a public 74 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: hospital in the state of Chicago, I'm sorry, in state 75 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: of Illinois, when her husband was a state legislator. I 76 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: think she was a diversity educator at the hospital, making 77 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: three hundred something thousand dollars a year. And this was 78 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: over twenty years ago, so make like half a milli 79 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: year in today's dollars to be a diversity educator. 80 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: So at the University of Chicago, if I remember correctly, 81 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I think you are hitting that exactly right. But yeah, 82 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: basically a half a million dollars in today's dollars to 83 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: essentially have a job that is a cake walk you 84 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: don't have to hardly do anything. Uh uh. And that 85 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: is the reality. So all of this is, all of 86 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: this is bonkers. Also, I pulled this clip because I 87 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: saw this circulating. Democrats have decided buck that their go 88 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: to talking point for this past campaign season and maybe 89 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: it's going to extend in the next campaign season, is 90 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: that we need more grocery stores provided by the government. 91 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: We know that this was a big part of mom 92 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Donnie's pitch in New York City, but this is Katie Wilson, 93 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: who ended up winning the mayor's race in Seattle. I 94 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard this. This was a flashback 95 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: to her campaign, but it is now circulating. She says 96 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: that they can't allow grocery stores to shut down in 97 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Seattle and that if it does happen, then the government 98 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: needs to step in and be the grocery store. 99 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: Can I just just to clarify to the point of clarity, Yeah, 100 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: Michelle Obama worked at the University of Chicago Medical Center, 101 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: so you're right it was a hospital, but you know 102 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: it was the U Chicago Hospital and she was executive 103 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: director for Community Affairs, Diversity educatort. What she was working 104 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: on a lot of diversity and recruitment is what I'm 105 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: reading here. Guess what she was a diversity educator making 106 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 4: a half million year basically, so nice, nice job. 107 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Of you got a bad gig relatively low stress here 108 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: is that Seattle New mayor basically echoing the same arguments 109 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: that were made on the other side of the country 110 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: coast to coast. What we really need is more government 111 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: grocery stores. Just like Cuba, access. 112 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 5: To affordable, healthy food is a basic rite. We cannot 113 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: allow giant grocery chains to stomp all over our communities 114 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: closed stores that will and leave behind food deserts. Together, 115 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 5: we can build a Seattle where fresh food is for everyone, 116 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: not just for those who can afford it. Food doeserts 117 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 5: are not natural. Corporations create them when they have band 118 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: in our communities. As mayor, I'm excited to step up 119 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: and with UFCW explore public option grocery stores to fill 120 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 5: those gas. 121 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: I thought this was funny, Buck because it directly connects 122 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: with the conversation we had during the Snap debate, which 123 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: is the argument that she is making about food deserts 124 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: and availability of food has been tested and it is 125 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: just not true. There is no lack of available food 126 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: products that people in different communities want to buy. And 127 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: so this was a talking point probably what twenty ten ish, 128 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: and now it's just coming back, even though it's been 129 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: soundly refuted. And I do think the fact that government 130 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: owned grocery stores again like Cuba, is being argued in 131 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: favor of in both Seattle and New York City is 132 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: interesting about the dearth of real ideas motivating the Democrat 133 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Party right now. 134 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: They've done this before, as I've said this, here you go. 135 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: I was pulling this up giving the poor. This is 136 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: from the New York Times. Everyone giving the poor easy 137 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: access to healthy food doesn't mean they'll buy it. What 138 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: a shock there. And I'll read you a little bit 139 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: from this. This is twenty fifteen Class a decade ago. 140 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: In twenty ten, the Bronx, this Bronx section is what 141 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: is called the food desert. This Bronx community was a 142 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: food desert, low income neighborhood in New York's least healthy county, 143 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: no nearby grocery store, few places where residents could easily 144 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 4: buy fresh food, the target of a city tax incentive 145 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: program to bring healthy food into underserved neighborhoods. A seventeen 146 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: thousand square foot supermarket opened aided by city money, paying 147 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: for forty percent of the cost. Neighborhood welcomed the addition, 148 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: but the diets of the neighborhoods residents did not. They 149 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 4: don't want to buy what coastal elites want them to buy. 150 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: We can go over this. This is the New York Times. 151 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: Study after study, we can Does this really shock anyone? 152 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: This is kind of funny, isn't it. You sit there, 153 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: you go in under or in low income communities, in 154 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: low income communities, if people have the choice, generally speaking 155 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: talking about broad buying habits, you don't have to call 156 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: me and say, I have a friend who's low income 157 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: and he's running six triathlons. Yeah, okay, I get it. 158 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 4: Generally speaking, in low income communities, when people have the 159 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: opportunity to buy chips, soda, candy, you know, frozen food 160 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 4: that they can you know, frozen pizza, whatever, or they 161 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: can buy rugal loo, free range, lean, you know, chicken 162 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: breasts or whatever. Which one are they going to do? 163 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: There's a reason why they sell the food they sell 164 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: in low income communities, because that's what people in those 165 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: communities by. Even when you subsidize so called it or 166 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 4: not so called it is even when you subsidize healthier food. 167 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: And so what are you gonna do about this? You know, 168 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: you either let people make their own choices and eat 169 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: garbage basically not actual garbage, but you know what I mean, 170 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: eat stuff that's bad for you, or you let people, 171 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: you know, you tell them that this is all Remember Clay, 172 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 4: they're worried about food deserts, but the SNAP program has 173 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: to cover chips and soda. 174 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Well, which is it? Yes? And the government run grocery stores. 175 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: I just I One of the biggest challenges of capitalism 176 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: is young people who have all of the benefits of 177 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: living in a capitalistic society decide that capital doesn't work 178 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: and it's all one big circle. I feel like we've 179 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: seen this with policing, where people say, oh, you know what, 180 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: being concerned that you have too many violent predators behind 181 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: bars is a luxury of a low crime environment. And 182 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: so you have a low crime environment and people start saying, hey, 183 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: you know what, we need fewer cops, and we need 184 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: fewer people in prisons, and we need more lenient treatment 185 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: of bad guys. And then there's more bad guys on 186 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: the street. What happens the overall violent crime rate skyrockets. 187 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: And it would be nice if we could just have 188 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: public policy that acknowledges what works and what doesn't. And 189 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: how about we don't try the things that we know 190 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: don't work, government funded grocery stores. I just the profit 191 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: margin on grocery stores buck is one or two percent. 192 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: It's one of the hardest businesses to run. 193 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 6: You know. 194 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: What would really be the test and this would just 195 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: would go to Mamdaniism and everything as well. We should 196 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 4: run an express go to one of these supposed Remember 197 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: it's a food desert. It's also an area where we're 198 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: gonna be told people are oppressed, and there's all the suppression. 199 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: It's a low income community, and I'm sure there's systemic 200 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: racism involved and all this other stuff go into that community. 201 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: Claim set up at just an Just let let the 202 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: grocery store that's there, or let the place where people 203 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: get their food. A lot of times it's more like 204 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 4: a in New York I'm speaking about now, it's more 205 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: like a convenience store. People will go in and they'll 206 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: have food there, but they don't have the big aisles 207 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: like they will in a in a giant, or a 208 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: food town or a you know whatever, a NP. I 209 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: don't even if that exists anymore, do they in peace 210 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: will exist the grocery store. 211 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: We got Publics, we got Pigley, Wigglely, we got Kroger 212 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: or PUBLICX. 213 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: I should have said, like I just lost my Florida 214 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: card for a week. I should have said publics right away. 215 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I didn't. 216 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: Anyway, they don't have something like that necessarily, but you could, honestly, 217 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: I think offer in the in these same communities, you 218 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: could offer, not just reduce. You could say, Okay, you 219 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: can either buy the stuff that we deem in healthy 220 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: or or we'll give you We'll give you the health 221 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: fee food free. And I think that people would be 222 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: shocked to see what the actual result of that experiment is. 223 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: I think that would be super intrigued. 224 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: People want to eat what they want to eat, bottom line, 225 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: and we'll come back. 226 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls. Still a lot of 227 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: people weighing in h one be discussion, impressed by the 228 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: quality of takes there. But I want to tell you 229 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: what we are a little bit less than six weeks 230 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: until Christmas, believe it or not, Thanksgiving is am I 231 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: correcting this. 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You know 249 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: we important thought that we just had also about the 250 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: food situation there and the idea of government run grocery stores. 251 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: There's a lot of lobbying that goes on by Big 252 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: Agra and the big food companies to make sure that 253 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: the things that the liberal elites who run these cities 254 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: don't want the low income communities to be ingesting in 255 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: those quantities are covered by things like food stamps aka SNAP. 256 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 7: Right. 257 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: Obviously, they renamed it because food stamps after a while 258 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: had picked up something of a negative connotation. It was 259 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: food welfare, and so they call it SNAP now. But 260 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 4: it's the same basic, same basic premise, or it is 261 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: the same premise. And I think that that's one aspect 262 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: of this is that there's a big incentive clay to 263 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: make people or to encourage people to eat this stuff 264 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: and for it to be subsidized by the government. And 265 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: beyond that, I just think what experience with a government 266 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: entity makes you think that you want the government in 267 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: charge of stocking and getting the best quality for the dollar. 268 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: This is actually a really fun question. We'll take it 269 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: off about how bad the food was in my private 270 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: high school. 271 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: It was a scholarship school. It was prison food. 272 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: My high school should be ashamed at the food that 273 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: they were making us eat, and that wasn't even the government, Like, 274 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: I can't imagine what it's like in an actual prison 275 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: or a state facility. 276 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Look the efficiency required to be a profitable grocery store, 277 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: to say nothing of the competition that must occur for 278 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: cleanliness and lack of spoilage and all of those things. 279 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City tried this. Remember the story that was out 280 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: there about Kansas City. They said, hey, we need to 281 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: have government run grocery stores. They couldn't get produced there 282 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: in a healthy way, right. It was spoiling. Nobody wanted 283 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: to shop there. The shelves were mostly empty. It was 284 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: an unmitigated disaster. Which buck, if you told me, what 285 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: do you expect a government run grocery store to look like? 286 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: It is what happened in Kansas City. It's what I 287 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: would have predicted. And I wish we had trips like 288 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: field trips so kids could go to Cuba and actually 289 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: see what the full fruition of a government system that 290 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: they're supporting now in New York City is like, so 291 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: that you could understand what it's like to not have 292 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: air conditioning. Wi Fi never works, government own grocery stores 293 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: or everybody stands in line for hours to be able 294 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: to get a bar of soap, Like this is crazy. 295 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: Civilization is based upon individual incentive. 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We thank 329 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 1: you for hanging out with all of us on a 330 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Thursday as the government is officially reopened. Encourage you to 331 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: go subscribe to the podcast. You can search out my 332 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: name Klay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton. We've 333 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: got an incredible network of shows that are distributed there 334 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: as well, and go subscribe to our YouTube channel. This week, 335 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: you have been seeing that I am now in a 336 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: studio that does not look like the Wayne's World basement. 337 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: There is bright lights, there is better graphics, and so 338 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: you can check it out for yourself to see how 339 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: things look there. Buck, I was last night on with 340 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: our friend Sean Hannity as the President was preparing to 341 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: sign the bill to open the government back up. Yes, 342 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: just I think it's very big of Sean to have 343 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: you on a show while you still owe him some 344 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: cold hard cash. 345 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: And you know, Sean's a very nice guy. He's letting 346 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: you get on a show even though there's an outstanding 347 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: dead here. 348 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: It is true. I mean, I can honestly say I 349 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever been on any one show that 350 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: I owed money to before. And Hannity has not broken 351 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: any legs. He hasn't loan sharked me out. I haven't had, 352 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, anybody knocking on the door looking to collect. 353 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me, I don't carry around that much cash, 354 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: so it's just just been a thing. Like I saw 355 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Sean last week at Patriot Awards told him I said, hey, man, sorry, 356 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm weren't a tux. I forgot to bring cash, and 357 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: God forbid I had any change. 358 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: We're lucky, Hannity's a gentleman. 359 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: Is I'm saying? We got a lot of emails from 360 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: people out there that love pocket change, which we can 361 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: have some fun with before the show is over. But 362 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: they had to cover fill time, and so they had 363 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: our friend Peter Deucey was on from the White House 364 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: lawn and Sean was just asked him, Hey, how much 365 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: different is it for the media that cover the president 366 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: now where basically you can ask questions all the time 367 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: compared to Joe Biden where he might show up once 368 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: a week and kind of mumble through things. And how 369 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: do the media talk about that? I thought it was 370 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: a good question. Here's an interesting answer where Deucey's like, man, 371 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I got to scramble to even find new questions to 372 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: ask the president because he answers so many of them. 373 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 8: Listen, it's totally backwards covering Joe Biden for four years 374 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 8: and covering this president for almost a year now. In 375 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 8: that the Biden administration, at most you would see him 376 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 8: once a week and you had like one sentence worth 377 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 8: of a shouted question. You could hope for a one 378 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 8: word answer at best, and then I would have to 379 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 8: make that last meet a week or more, whether on 380 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 8: the campaign trail or here at the White House, whereas 381 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 8: with this president, there's typically only one day a week 382 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 8: that you don't see him, and you go in there 383 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 8: with two pages of questions, and he'll be rattling off answers, 384 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 8: and other people might ask your questions and it's like, 385 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 8: I don't think I have enough. You open up your phone, 386 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 8: you go to daily Mail. It's like, what else is 387 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 8: happening today that I can ask the president about right now? 388 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: I just thought that was really funny that Trump is 389 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: answering so many questions about so many different topics that 390 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: sometimes if you're in the Oval office and preparing yourself 391 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: to be asking him questions, he runs through the entire 392 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: roster of questions. So you're going on dailymail dot com 393 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: to check and see what the latest news is. Maybe 394 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: OutKick dot com. Okay, a bunch of people went away 395 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: in Buck. We got loaded lines all over the country. 396 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's go to Dave and Rochester, New York. 397 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: We'll start with you, Dave fire Away. 398 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, love your show, So I think I think 399 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 7: you're missing the mark on the grocery store food desert. 400 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 7: What's happened. There's so much theft actually that stores have 401 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 7: to lock product up. I've live in Rochester, New York, 402 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 7: and there's uh, you know, Wegman's chain here in Rochester, 403 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 7: and they moved out of the city entirely with the 404 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 7: exception one store due to theft. Yeah, and we've got 405 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 7: two walmarts in Rochester that basically have two law enforcement 406 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 7: cars outside and shot spotters in the parking lot. So 407 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 7: it's not that, you know, they don't want to buy stuff, 408 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 7: it's that there's so much stuff there's no profit to 409 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 7: run a grocery store. 410 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. It's it's a combination of multiple factors. 411 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: But what we were talking about in particular was the 412 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: products that are sold in the grocery store. Even when 413 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: they are discounting quote unquote healthy foods, the people who 414 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: buy product still want to buy the unhealthy food. In 415 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: other words, it's not an absence. 416 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 4: And people aren't swiping all the shark cootery. I can 417 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 4: assure you that that's not what's happening. 418 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: And also we've talked about this quite a lot because 419 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: the worst thing about a store shutting down in the 420 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: neighborhood is not only the lack of access to the store, 421 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: oftentimes because of theft, it takes all those jobs out 422 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: of the community. So you have to get on a 423 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: bus or you have to get on public transit and 424 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: go a decent distance to have a job. 425 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: Look, you can see you can take a drive through 426 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: any neighborhood really in America, and you know, based on 427 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: the businesses and kind of how the businesses look, you know, 428 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: what the vibe is around the business, what kind of 429 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 4: a neighborhood you're in. If you're in a neighborhood where 430 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: the businesses have bars on the doors, bars on the windows, 431 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: even for like a seven to eleven setup, it looks 432 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 4: like there's a bank teller behind, you know, bulletproof glass, 433 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: you're in bad shape. If there's a lot of check 434 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: cashing places, If there's a lot of liquor stores, especially 435 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: kind of depressing looking liquor stores, you're in bad shape. 436 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Right. 437 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: We talk about what happened at some of these pharmacies 438 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: when there were the BLM riots that would burn down 439 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: these pharmacies. Play some of those places like a wall, 440 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: you know, Walgreens. People actually get their food there that 441 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: get groceries that they'll go there to get YLK, they'll 442 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: go there to get So when those close down, it's 443 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: not just oh I have to go further from my 444 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 4: prescription or whatever. It's also adding to the lack of 445 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: good food options. Look, I spent about a year and 446 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: a half of the NYPD, and we would do were 447 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: we would do steakouts. I mean, I know that sounds 448 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 4: like I was. I would do steakouts to be an 449 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: unmarked car. I'd be with the detective and in some 450 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: very very sketchy neighborhoods and you know people, uh, you'd 451 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: see like what they're buying and where they go, what 452 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: the stories look like. You can tell in a lot 453 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: of these stores what the average income of the people 454 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: living in the neighborhood is just by what by the 455 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 4: grab and go right by the register. I'm telling you know, 456 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: if you're in a fancy uh, if you're in a 457 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 4: fancy ish or even a middle class neighborhood, it's going 458 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: to be like, you know, nice chocolate bars and things 459 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: like that. If you're in a rough neighborhood, it's gonna 460 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: be off brand chips, it's gonna be off brand whatever. 461 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: And you know, you see these things playing out, and 462 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: people pick up on these signals in their own community, 463 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: and and it's and it's a shame because you should 464 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 4: have pride in the businesses in your community. To your point, 465 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: also in employers in your community, which makes it a 466 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 4: place that people feel more invested in as well. 467 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: No doubt. Joe in Naples, Florida, Joe, what you got for. 468 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: Us, gentlemen? I want to weigh in on the H 469 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: one bs. For mid seventies through two thousand and eight, 470 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: I ran a technology company in the Boston area. I 471 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: was competing with half a dozen major computer companies, a 472 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: lot of tech I had to use H one b's 473 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: because the American schools were not turning out the quality 474 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: of engineer and mathematicians I needed. I used a couple 475 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: of Germans, an Englishman, and a Japanese among others. I 476 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: put the issue down to in the fifties and sixties, 477 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: we had the big Eisenhower Science and Technology initiative in schools, 478 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: and that faded out by the mid seventies. I used them. 479 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: I wound up having to pay as much, if not more, 480 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: to get qualified engineers, data scientists, and math people. 481 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: And so you couldn't find in your experience in Boston, 482 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: you couldn't find Americans with This was not a dollars 483 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: decision for you. Necessarily, you couldn't find American born workers 484 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: with the skill set you needed to have an effective company. 485 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: I would go down to MIT. I'm an alum of MIT. 486 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: I would go down there every interview opportunity, and I 487 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: might be able to get one engineer, one applied math guy. 488 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: Because I was competing against IBM, Deck, Data, General Wang, 489 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other big boys. They could we get. 490 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: We we got MIT, Northeastern BU. The fight for the 491 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: fight for qualified folks started very heavy in the late 492 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: seventies early eighties. For five years of the business, I 493 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: could sort of find what I needed. But when the 494 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: colleges started dumbing down grades and the government initiative on 495 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: the space race and technology started going down, putting down, 496 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: just could not get the quality of engineer. 497 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. And this is what I 498 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: would say, Buck is somewhat of a clarion call for 499 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: needing to graduate more American born students with skills in 500 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: the so called hard sciences as opposed to the social sciences, 501 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: which tend to be easier and aren't as challenging. Jeff 502 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, you got to take for us. Thanks 503 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: for calling. 504 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 6: Work for thirty years. And when I started out, all 505 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 6: the recruiters, all the recruiters were Americans, and as a 506 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 6: contract programmer, my life depends on recruiters. Now the majority 507 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 6: are Indians. And not only that, I would say about 508 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 6: ten or twenty percent are calling from India. And I'd 509 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: like to refute the first the guy that just was on, 510 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: I've been a VP, if the director, and I've hired programmers, 511 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 6: I've hired Indian programmers, and I've hired American programmers, and 512 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 6: American programmers are just as good, if not better. 513 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: When I was. 514 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 6: At American Mutual Funds, American Mutual Funds is in Irvine, California, 515 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 6: which is a big Indian community. Now there were floors 516 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 6: and floors of Indians, but senior management, senior management were 517 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 6: all Americans getting bonuses. One last thing, you know, just 518 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 6: to show you how dumb American companies can be. I 519 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 6: worked for Boeing for a while and when I was there, 520 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 6: when they made a contract, and when they made a 521 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 6: deal with China, and the deal was that China would 522 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 6: buy several hundred seven forty sevens if Boeing would agree 523 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 6: to turn over all the engineering documents on the technologies 524 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 6: that go into building seven forty seven. Guess what Boeing 525 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 6: made the deal. And one last thing, you guys have 526 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: got one of the top shows in America. Use your 527 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 6: show when you have when you guys come up with great, 528 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 6: great ideas, which you do all the time, call these calls, 529 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 6: Chuck Schumberg, call call these the call AOC call a 530 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 6: Crockett and live online. And if they're too cowardly, the 531 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 6: answered right, we'll all see it. 532 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 7: They're all full of crack. 533 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: Hey, well, thank you for the call. A lot of 534 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: good comments there. They won't come on, and I think 535 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: there's now a rule where we aren't allowed. I know 536 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: this was an old school radio thing. You could just 537 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: call people and try to get them online without get 538 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: them on air, without saying who you are, and you 539 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: would get them talking and then they find out, hey, 540 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: we're talking to tons of people all over the city 541 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: or all over the state or the nation. We have 542 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: we have extended offers to people across the pullolitical spectrum 543 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: and there are a. 544 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: Couple a couple of things on this. One is we 545 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: would never get beat even forget about that rule, which 546 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: I think you're you're right on that, but i'd have 547 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 4: to look into it. We wouldn't get around their staff. 548 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: They don't Chuck Schuter. There's no there's no like bat 549 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: phone to Chuck Schumer. Well, at least we don't have it. 550 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 4: We don't have that line where we could call in. 551 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: So we're not going to get around his staff. And 552 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: I honestly think a lot of the time there's a 553 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: limited value with some of these Democrats. They're just gonna say, 554 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, Chuck Schumer would say, it's about affordability, it's 555 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: about healthcare. Donald Trump is wrecking the Republic. You've already 556 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: you've already heard it all. And that's why I don't 557 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: really you know, we can pick and choose. Like Fetterman 558 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: would be interesting because there's some areas where you could 559 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: actually get to a place of some agreement, a little disagreement. 560 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: There's a give and take. With your run of the 561 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: mill democrat on a radio show, I mean, a Democrat 562 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: politician on a radio show, they're just gonna say what 563 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: they always say. I mean what they're saying on CNN, 564 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: they're going to stay right on the talking point. So 565 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: I just don't think it's very likely to be instructive 566 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: or very good radio. 567 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Personally. 568 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: If that wasn't the case, I think we would push 569 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: more to get Democrats on Plus play will yell at 570 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: them like he did Mike Pence and then everyone will cry. 571 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: Would be I would be very happy to get these 572 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: guys on. They won't come on. I think it's because 573 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: they just know that they don't have anything beyond talking points. 574 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: And talking points in a three minute television hit might 575 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: work in a fifteen minute radio it actually expects me. 576 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: I can give you a preview of our conversation with Chuck, 577 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: our imaginary conversations with Chuck Schumer. 578 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: I'd say, Senator Schumer, so. 579 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: Have premiums for the average American on the individual market 580 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 4: gone up on average one hundred percent or more over 581 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: the last ten years? 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I mean, we're in that phase. 630 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: You don't get to go out to dinner as often 631 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: as you used to. 632 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: New we have to get a babysitter because also the 633 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: dog and my baby have they have a deal going 634 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 4: where the dog now goes close to the high chair 635 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: and knows that about seventy five percent of the puraid 636 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 4: food ends up on the ground, and so she's the 637 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: cleanup crew. So I can't I can't stop this right 638 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 4: because I'm like, well, it's kind of efficient, but that's 639 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: what's going on. But Open Table Clay the app that 640 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: everyone uses for reservations, Open tables collecting more than just 641 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 4: where you're like to eat on people. And I want 642 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: to get into this. I actually I'll tell you this everybody. 643 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: I think if you're a repeat canceler on restaurants for reservations, 644 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 4: I think that should be taken into account. I think 645 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 4: we should have something of a dining out social credit score. 646 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 4: I know some of you are gonna get so ticked off, 647 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: but I'm into it. So we can talk about this tomorrow. 648 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: We'll have some fun with that. We'll have some fun 649 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: with the Friday edition of the program. Overall, great calls 650 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: from you guys on the complicated issue of H one 651 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: b VSA's wide variety of perspectives and i AP preceded 652 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: hearing from so many of you. We'll have some fun 653 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: on the Friday edition of the program. Seemed like Bill 654 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: O'Reilly was a little bit nervous about that steak bet Buck. Maybe, 655 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: just possibly he actually recognizes that we're gonna end up right, 656 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: and Gavin Newsom is gonna. 657 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: Be I'm already researching the best steakhouses in Long Island 658 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 4: to meet up with Uncle Bill. 659 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see