1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Every morning when I wake up, I have a text 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: wedding for me from Marcus Latrell, who is known as 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: the Lone Survivor, which was the name of the book 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: he wrote about his experience in Afghanistan when by all 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: rights he never should have survived. Everyone else involved in 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: that campaign died. 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: He lived to tell the. 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Story and share the story of the heroism of his mates. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: Anytime Marcus is on the show, it's a treat, but 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: it's always kind of an odd thing because I feel 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: like I should show him the respect he's due and 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: be formal with him, because that's how most of you 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: expect me to be. 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: But we're buds. 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: We laugh and joke and talk in what President Trump 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: wants called locker room talk, and we goof around together, 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: and so I think there has to be a balance 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: of that. I have not gone back to listen to 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: this interview since it first aired quite some number of 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: years ago, so I'm going to be listening as you 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: do normally. I'll listen to the to the discussion. I 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: don't like the term interview because an interview suggests your 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: passing judgment. I'd like to discuss you think you'd rather 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: hear two people talk, wouldn't you, than someone ask a 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: question and then formally answer a question. But anyway, he's 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: been on several times. But here's our conversation with our 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: dear friend, the Loan Survivor, Marcus Latrell. The movie opens 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: Today's Paul Loan Survivor. It's the story of four Navy seals. 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: The only one to survive was Marcus Latrell. He's our guest. 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Our guest guest, Mark Marcus Trell, Marcus Marcus. 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: I got to ask you, did you ever expect when 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: you were I have to say a hello to you 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: from your former frat brother at sam Houston State University, 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Scott Kutaj. Did you ever expect back in ninety nine 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: or at sam Houston State University that you were going 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: to end up being the subject of national talk shows 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: and now a big movie about the life you've lived. 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, sir, absolutely not. I mean you know what 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: I mean. You know my attorney brothers the only that 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: you know I'm kind of I'm a quiet guy, country boy. 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: So I never in a million years thought my career 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: as a Navy seal would lead down this road. Absolutely not. 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, the movie opens this weekend. It's Loan Survivor Mark 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Wahlberg as you on screen. 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: What was that like? 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: It was pretty cool, you know, getting to meet him 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: and watch him work. I mean, he really is a 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: professional and a great actor. He's been around a long time, 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: so we kind of when we came on set for 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: the first time. When we met up, I was more 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: concerned with the other actors and making sure that they 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: did they got as much information as they possibly could, 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: not only from me, but other teammates who knew the 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: guys and their family members so they could portray those 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: guys the best way they could. And they absolutely got 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: that done. You know, when it came time to me, 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: I was just one of them deals where I knew 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: Mark was a pro and I wasn't at this, so 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: I I was like, hey, look man, I'm gonna be 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: back here in the shadow. You need anything, I'm here 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: for you. Other than that, I'm just going to stand 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: out of your way. I think the only thing we 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: actually sat down and a greed on was the fact 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: that he doesn't need to do a Southern accent because 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: I would never try to imitate a bust A Yankee accent, 67 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: and it just and he got a good we got 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: both got a good laugh at it because you never 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: now and again he tried to pull out some kind 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: of Southern draw or whatnot, but uh, it was funny. 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: One of the things, Marcus Latrell is our guest, one 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: of the things that was important about this movie, important 73 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: to you, was the guys actually trained for a period 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: of time, and and you were involved as a technical advisor. 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: They actually went through some military training to kind of 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: get themselves into the mode for this. 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we showed up to this sept for pre production 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: about a month early and put them through the wringer. 79 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I mean we worked them from sun up to sundown 80 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: with verbiage, weapons and tactics, everything they needed to know 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: to get this this this part right. And let me 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: tell you, they stepped to it. We didn't have any 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: problems of them. I mean there were no divas on 84 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: set or anything like that. And then even after production started, 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: I mean they were constantly asking questions and training every day. 86 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: So I mean what you see on film and these 87 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: guys and how they move and communicate and everything like that, 88 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: they got it down. I mean they worked hard and 89 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: actually became a team that was neat to watch. 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: You have praised Peter Berg and the work he did 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: with this movie, particularly the fact that he went and 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: saw the families of Danny Deet's and Matthew Axelson and 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: Michael Murphy. How much did that mean to you that 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: your three fallen brothers he went and actually met their 95 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: family and really understood their grief and their experience. And 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: one of the things he said is what stars they 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: were to their families. 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: And that was a surprise to him absolutely. I mean 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: not just the visiting the family members. I mean Pete 100 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: put out from the first time we met, and he 101 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: took control of this whole thing. You know, he was 102 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: embedded with us overseas in Iraq. I mean he came 103 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: to our training sessions, constantly asked questions, and in the 104 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: beginning it was tough because we just don't open up 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: just anybody, especially Hollywood director. But he swallowed his pride 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: and kept on coming, and eventually we opened up to 107 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: him and got what he needed, and I think that 108 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: enabled him to make a really great movie. 109 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: You've said over and over again that this movie is 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: about the three guys that didn't make it out and. 111 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: That you did, and you get to tell their story. 112 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: But I asked our listeners to email in questions, and 113 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: one of them said, can you ask Marcus Latrell? He 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: broke his back and he pulled himself out one body 115 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: link that is at a time, and that meant a 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: lot to me as an individual. And here he was 117 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: a Navy seal and you understand how great those guys are. 118 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: Why did they choose to leave that scene out of 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: the movie. 120 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: I think time with the That was the one thing 121 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: that I had to learn dealing with with film production 122 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: in Hollywood and everything like that. Everything is regulated and 123 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: under time constraints, money constraints, location, and overall safety for 124 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: the cast and crew, and it was just one of 125 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: those things that because of time constraints and everything that 126 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: just got pulled out. I mean, in the movie is 127 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: an hour and change two hours long. A gunfight in 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: real life was over three hours. I think they had 129 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: me in the village for two days or something in 130 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: the movie of the daytime extract. I was in the 131 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: village for four days and it was a nighttime extract 132 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: under fire. So it was just one of the things 133 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: where we were just under the gun. 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Kind of your. 135 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Wife, Melanie has said that the first two times she 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: saw the movie, she just watched it for accuracy, and 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: the third time she went in like the rest of us, 138 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: to watch it and let it wash over her. She said, 139 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: she started bawling and gave you a big hug because 140 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: then it kind of hit her what you'd been through. 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: What was your reaction when you got through looking through 142 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: the technical and you just watch it as a human 143 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: having been there. 144 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: I would watch the scenes certain certainly, just kind of 145 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: I don't have to see something or read something that 146 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: had that come tumbling back on top of me. But uh, 147 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: I was real critical of it. I would watch a 148 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: scene I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that happening, 149 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: But I also remember being knocked out. And when you're 150 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: knocked out, you just don't jump back up and get 151 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: back on the gu I mean you real literally had 152 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: to pick your brain up off the and keep it 153 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: from shaking inside your head. And that's when the difference 154 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: between a movie and in reality is you bounce back 155 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: real quickly and whatnot. I think they still did a 156 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: fantastic job for traying what happened up there, but yeah, 157 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: it was it was just one of the situations where 158 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: I would just remember what was going on and in 159 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: a movie, you know, you had the visual and the 160 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: in the auditory when you're in theater and watching it, 161 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: and what was what was hitting me hardest? For the smells, 162 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: because that's the thing that really takes over over there, 163 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: the smell of blood, fire, burnt burnt hair, stuff like that. 164 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: If you figure out some way to throw that into 165 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: the film, it would really affect people. 166 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: We'd have to add another dimension to really experience what 167 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: you experienced. You called for six or seven miles with 168 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: a broken back. 169 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: You were the only of the four to be able 170 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to get away. 171 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: You say you laid down to die several times you'd 172 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: been shot. The number one question I got from listeners was. 173 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: What sustained you? What was going through your mind to 174 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: get you through that moment. 175 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: Obviously reverting back to my training and the way I 176 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: was raised. You know, no matter how my father always say, 177 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: no matter how hard you get hit, if you get 178 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: knocked down, if you get knocked out, you always get 179 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: back up and go at it as hard as you 180 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: possibly can, kind of like getting thrown off a horse, 181 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: first thing I do is get back up on it. Well, 182 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: I mean I was still alive, I still had air 183 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: in my lungs. So it's you know in our mission 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: statement that if there's still one guy alive the op 185 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: goes down, you know, you do everything you can survive 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: and get back so you can climb back up on 187 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: the horse. And that's what I try to do. I 188 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: never thought, I never felt sorry for myself. I ever 189 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: broke down. I didn't dwell on the fact that my 190 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: teammates were dead or anything like that. No negative stuff. 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: I would try and keep that out of my head 192 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: as much as possible. Obviously, there were some situations where 193 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is getting bad. I don't 194 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: know if I'm wanta maga, And then I would just 195 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: talk to myself and tell myself to quit being a 196 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: whimp and get up. 197 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: The book was published in two thousand and seven Loan 198 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: Survivor bestseller. The movie was made, it took years. 199 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: The director was working on other projects. It opens today 200 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Loan Survivor. 201 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: More of our interview with the Loan Survivor Marcus Latrump 202 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: coming up next. Michael can please only one liberal per day, 203 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: and today is not your day. 204 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: Michael Berry's show. 205 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: Everybody out there listening, who is between the ages? Of 206 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: eighteen and forty probably knows somebody who left after high 207 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: school and went off to war. No doubt, the most 208 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: riveting story to be told of that was by Navy 209 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: seal Marcus Latreull. 210 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: The movie opens today. Loan survivor Marcus Latrell's our guest. 211 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: You've been training to be a Navy seal since you 212 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: were twelve years old with Green Beret Billy Shelton. Do 213 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: you since that this was what you were destined to do. 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: It's almost as if your entire life has prepared you 215 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: for this moment. 216 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: I hope not. I hope this doesn't define me as 217 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: a man. Obviously, my name is synonymous with the Operation 218 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: red Wing, and when I meet a lot of people, 219 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: all you want to talk about is Operation red Wing. 220 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: Books out, movies out, people chat about it and everything 221 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: like that. But we were talking about this the other day. 222 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't define me. It doesn't make me who I am. 223 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: It was just something that happened in my life, just 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: like it happened in real life, and then the book 225 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: came out. It's just one more wrong on the ladder, 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: and the same thing with the movie. I hope that 227 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: people go and watch it and take something away from it. 228 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: It's not in your face kind of a deal. It's 229 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: not trying to deliver a message. There's no politics, religion. 230 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: It's not an anti war, it's not a pro war thing. 231 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: It's just about, you know, nineteen or excuse me, twenty, 232 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: all American guys getting out there and doing a job 233 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: that we said we do. 234 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: So give me. 235 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: A moment into your life when the doors are closed 236 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: and the TVs are off, and you're not giving speeches 237 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: or signing autographs or answering questions, what. 238 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Do you do for fun? 239 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: Well, I grew up on a ranch, so I'm married 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: now with kids, and I enjoyed the quiet time. I mean, 241 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: I just can't wait for this to be over so 242 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: I can go back to living a normal life and 243 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: no cameras or media or anything like that. Get back 244 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: on the ranch, wake up in the morning, and go 245 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: to work. I mean, you know as well as I do. 246 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: If you're not, if there's nothing to do on the ranch, 247 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: you're just being lazy. 248 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: If your son acts or your daughter Addie says they 249 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: want to be a Navy seal and they're ready to. 250 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Sign up, what do you do? 251 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: Well, Luckily I could tell my daughter that they don't 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: take women, but. 253 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: That may change by them. You know, go ahead. 254 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't get me cranked up on that one, but 255 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: it's nothing against women. Trust me, I'm not a sexist 256 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: at all. But if my son rider's up to do that, 257 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: then I'll get him ready for it. I mean, if 258 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: you come into my house, there's no metals on the wall. 259 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: There's very actually, very little proof that I was ever 260 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: in the military, and I'm not going to throw that 261 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: in his face. It's kind of one of the deals 262 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: my father said to me. He goes, you know, I 263 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: hear in my shoes. You don't have to fill them, 264 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: but they're there for you to walk in them if 265 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: you need them. And that's kind of to deal with 266 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: my son. You know, if it comes down to it 267 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 3: and he decides he wants to go that route, and 268 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: by all means, I'll do everything in my power to 269 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: get him ready for it, and in the unlikely event 270 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: he makes it through the training and you know he'll 271 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: I think it'll just bring us that much more closer together. 272 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: We would share that kind of that craft. 273 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: I recently met with a group out at Camp Hope. 274 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: One of the mini groups dealing with folks coming back 275 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: with PTSD and in the case of Chris Kyle is 276 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: on our minds. And there are a lot of these 277 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: young men that were just like Marcus Latrell that left 278 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: and they came back and they're hurting and it doesn't 279 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: seem that anything can get through to them, and it 280 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: is a real crisis. What should we be doing about that? 281 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing that I noticed is the 282 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: isolation of the guys when they come back. I mean, 283 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: everybody just automatically assumes that they have a problem, and 284 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: you just can't come at it like that. And to 285 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: in my advice to the veterans, I mean, if you 286 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: sent I mean, hospitals are great for what they do. 287 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: They're designed to patch you up, savior life and then 288 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: get you on your way. A lot of these guys 289 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: spend year, two years in the hospital. Man, you start 290 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: to die all over again spending that much time in 291 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: the hospital and you sit around listen to somebody who's 292 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: supposed to be a medical professional telling you that you 293 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: have a problem, that you are messed up mentally. I mean, 294 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: I would imagine you start to believe it, but you 295 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: know in your mind, and I kind of The way 296 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: I do it is I go back to that, to 297 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: my mindset of what I was like bere right when 298 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: I was going into the military, that drive that I 299 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: had h wanting to be a Navy seal, the strength 300 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: and and and everything that I had going for me 301 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: back then, and I just try to go back to 302 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: that place. Granted my body doesn't hold up like it 303 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: it should at my age and everything like that, in 304 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: my mind it's just as sharp as it always was. 305 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: So that's that's both the blessing and a curse because 306 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: I miss being in the seal teams. I miss I 307 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: missed my teammates, and I missed the job. Moreover, I 308 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: just missed my teammates. 309 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: You've written another book, which was released in May of twelve. 310 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: What can can we expect from you in the future? 311 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: Are there more books in you? 312 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: It's funny should bring that up. I was talking to 313 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: my wife the other day about it, and I had 314 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: this idea of a book a while ago that I 315 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: was going to write, and it's basically just a manual. 316 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: It's when of those little bit he read our little 317 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: binding books, probably one hundred pages long, one hundred thy 318 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: pages long, and the title of it is. If you 319 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: want to date my daughter, read this book. And I 320 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: just go around to all my teammates who have daughters. 321 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, give me the scenario of the 322 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: first boyfriend who walks in the door. What are we 323 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: going to do? And then you know our reference movie 324 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: quotes in and I'm like, okay, this is the way 325 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: you think. Then you need to watch. 326 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Your daughter's fifteen months old and you're already obsessed with this. 327 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: Oh man. When my daughter was born, I screamed at 328 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: the doctor to put clothes on her. 329 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Somebody's her. 330 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on here? Man? In my head, my 331 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: daughter was born to the age of seventeen. 332 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: That is generally a bad indicator. 333 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: And I'm as guilty as you are that we were 334 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: bad lads as young men. 335 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: Oh good guy, And I mean everybody always tells us too, 336 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: it's going to come back to haunt you. And you're like, 337 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: that's not And then as soon as your daughter comes 338 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: on the deck, You're like, great, there we go. 339 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: You have become I don't want to use the term 340 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: celebrity because that minimizes you. You have become a symbol 341 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: an icon to a lot of Americans of what is 342 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: right with this country. 343 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Tell me about a call that you received. 344 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: A person that you met, and you said, I've been 345 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: a fan of that person my entire life and now 346 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: they reached out and said they were a fan of mine. 347 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: That you just thought, Wow, this is a charmed life. 348 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: That's a tough one, man. I mean, I mean, you 349 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: know about me. You know, I don't get into all. 350 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: I've never been starstruck or anything like that. I appreciate 351 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: them for what they do and the accomplishments that they have, 352 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: but I've never in a million years lost my mind 353 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: crying can I have your autograph or your underwear or 354 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: something like that. You know, that never never crosses my mind. 355 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: There's I've heard since the pre release of the movies 356 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Uh, there have been some some 357 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: people that that I've heard through the grape vine that 358 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: have watched the movie or that are supporters of me 359 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: and Howard Stern and people that you would never expect 360 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: to hear about. And you know that that's crazy that 361 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: it's reached that many people. I guess the funniest phone 362 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: call that I've ever got was right when I got back. 363 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: I was I was pretty busted up. I was all 364 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: banished up, and I was at the ranch and my 365 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: mother was was cooking me lunch. And a phone call 366 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: came in and my mom answered the phone, and you 367 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: I could hear her rumbling in there and talking and whatnot. 368 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: She hung out the phone. She came back into the 369 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: to the to the breakfast room, and I was like, 370 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: who is that? And she goes, it was President Bush 371 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: And I go, what do you want? It was it 372 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: was senior, not junior. And I go, well, what do 373 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: you want? And he goes, he just wants to talk 374 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: to you to see how you're doing. He said, he's 375 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: grateful for everything. I go, well, what happened? He goes, well, 376 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: I told him you were eating lunch to them, and 377 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: I told him to call back in ten minutes, and 378 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: he did. He called back in ten You know you 379 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: can never. I don't care who you are. You ain't 380 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: going against mom, right, No, No. 381 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: It's a great story though, it's a great story. It's 382 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: it's a story about real people. I mean that that's 383 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: what happened. You were eating lunch. She's a mom. She 384 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: wanted you to finish your lunch. 385 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I was. I was hurt, and now I 386 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: had lost a lot of weight and everything like that. 387 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 3: She was trying to fat me up and heal me up, 388 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: and she didn't let anybody anybody come anywhere near me. 389 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: How are you today, physically? How are you? 390 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: I'm good. I had my last surgery. Uh, actually it 391 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: was it was a year this November, so that's good. 392 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: I've kind of beat the sight. Normally, I have a 393 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: surgery a year just so I can keep walking. 394 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: And it's all the back. 395 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: My back, yes sir, and my knees are gone, and 396 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: uh probably with my shoulder, my neck, and I keep going. 397 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: But it's not important, is it. 398 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: Is it chronic pain? 399 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: Yes, sir? Yeah, no. It was one of them deals 400 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: where the doc said that, you know, you're going to 401 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: be in pain for the rest of your life. Some 402 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: of my inabilitating, so but for the I don't really 403 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: concentrate on that too much. I'll walk in and have 404 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: a spasm and it will jerk me out of bed 405 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: or something like that, but I'll let it run its 406 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 3: the course, and I just you know, get up and 407 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: keep going. And if I got to have another surgery, 408 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: will so be it. Don't have one, and you know, 409 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: I just keep trucking along. Right now, we're doing my brother. 410 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: He just got extract out of Afghanistan. He's in the 411 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: hostel right now having surgery. So we're dealing with him, 412 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: and I'll focus on myself whenever, whenever my brother's better. 413 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: More of our interview with Marcus Latrell coming up next. 414 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: The movie opens tonight, and my own account is very good. 415 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: It's Loan Survivor, the movie adaptation of Marcus Latrell's book 416 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: is harrowing tale of what happened to him and three 417 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: of his buddies that didn't make it out from Afghanistan. 418 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: He's our guest, Marcus Latrell. 419 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: Marcus Latrell tell us about the Loan Survivor Foundation, something that. 420 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: I started back when I got out, closer to when 421 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: I got out. It was just in the beginning. It 422 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: was a way for me to reconnect with my military roots. 423 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: Kind of a deal I all spawned from my own experience. 424 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: I was in the hospital for a while. Then they 425 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: asked me what I could do, what they could do 426 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: for me to make me better, and I said, send 427 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: me home to my ranch. I went home and I 428 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: got better. I was around my family and my friends, 429 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: and they didn't cut me any slack, and you know, 430 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: I just got back up and was better, And I 431 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: thought to myself, you know, if that would work for me, 432 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: it could definitely work for other people. I mean, I'm 433 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: not special in any way. So we started the foundation 434 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: and then it just caters to veterans, not only veterans, 435 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: but their family, because you could bring a veteran out 436 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: and work with him, and then you send him back 437 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: to a broken family and they just digress this. So 438 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: we bring the whole unit out and work with them 439 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: out at the ranch. Let them go fishing, hunting, horseback riding, 440 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: or just sit around and do nothing if they wanted 441 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: something about being out in the country. That's peaceful and therapeutic. 442 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: And it's done a lot of great things for a 443 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: lot of people. I mean, we're just we're moving around along. 444 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: It means something if it comes from your mouth. So 445 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: don't tell folks if you would, about the boot campaign 446 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: with whom you've partnered. 447 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: That also came about right kind of close to when 448 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: I got out. It was five Texas women. They had 449 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: heard the story about my team and just decided they 450 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: want to do something. It's probably one of the best 451 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: ways I've ever heard to support the military. So they 452 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: went and they got a deal with some military contractors 453 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: for boots for our military boots, and they put their 454 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: logo on it. And basically the whole gist behind it 455 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: is buy a pair of combat boots, get your picture 456 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: taken in it, and sort of walk a mile in 457 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: our shoes kind of a deal. And man, that thing 458 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: has grown exponentially, like you know, like wildfire. I mean's everybody, celebrities, 459 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: I mean just yeah, everybody is getting on board with 460 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: this thing, and it's it's it's a good deal, man. 461 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: I mean, the money goes where it needs to go to. 462 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: I don't I don't take any some organizations, you know, 463 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: it's they got deep pockets for themselves. I just never 464 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: could understand why you would take money, donated money that 465 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: was supposed to go to the troops. And that's a 466 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: different talk, I guess altogether. 467 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I can. 468 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: Only imagine how many invitations you must get and how 469 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: hard it must be because you physically cannot do them. Logistically, 470 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: you cannot do them all. And I know that's got 471 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: to be. 472 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: Difficult for you. 473 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: It is sometimes especially when I when I can't walk 474 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: or I'm having a real uh my, for some reason, 475 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: my pain threshold is not up or something like that, 476 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: and I know I got to go do something. Thanks 477 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: the good Lord. I very rarely miss anything. If I 478 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: tell somebody I'm going to be there, I'll be there. 479 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: There have been some situations though, where I was in 480 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: the hospital and I just couldn't make it, And for that, 481 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I take it with a grain of salt. 482 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: Kind of the beautiful thing about having a wife now 483 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: and she she covered down on me pretty good. So 484 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: she tick and chooses my battle. And then when something 485 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: comes up and she can, she can be a pit 486 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 3: bull where she wants to be. 487 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: I had a person asking I promise I would. I 488 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: would bring it up to you the story at your house, 489 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: the four guys that came and and killed Daisy and 490 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: you chased them, And what troubled people the most was 491 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: why were you carrying nine millimeters brettas Why that choice? 492 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: Uh? I keep those pistols in my truck for like, 493 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: if I run up on a pot of pigs or something, 494 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: truth to be told, I keep in my truck and 495 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: case to get stolen. 496 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 2: And those are your throw down guns thrown all right? 497 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people want to know about your 498 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: favorite gun. 499 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: All right, now, I'm carrying a predator Predator Tacticle forty five. 500 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of a nineteen eleven design. Man, it's a 501 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: it's a great firearm, and that's what I carry. 502 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: Your brand, your ex bertise, your your endorsement, and particularly 503 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: if you were involved in developing it would be worth 504 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: a lot to a company that made tactical gear. 505 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Is that something you would do? 506 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: Think? So? 507 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you kidding me? You know that? 508 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: Oh man, the Marcus Latrell official holster, can't you hear it? Now? 509 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? Bo, you're probably better at selling something, you know, 510 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: like pool cleaning gear like that. 511 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Something you know? What would you like to do? What 512 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: have you not done that? You go? Well, this would 513 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: be this would be really neat to do. 514 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: Have a normal life. I'd like to go home and 515 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: be at my house and the only expectations I have 516 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: or to make sure my wife and kids are happy 517 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: and just work, just live out my days however long 518 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: that may be, just peaceful and quiet. 519 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: Does it exhaust you as all this, especially what you're 520 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: about to go through with the movie hitting and all 521 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: the interviews you're going to be doing. 522 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Does it mean does it wear you down? 523 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean my stama is pretty good. It's I 524 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: guess it's more of the thing. It just keeps pulling 525 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 3: me away from the house. And I don't like that. 526 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 3: I did that for a career, and I promise that 527 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: I I mean, I would never get married while as 528 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: in a team, since I would never be around. Well, 529 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm married now and I'm I'm hardly ever around and 530 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: it's so far, so good. My wife's good with it, 531 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: but I'm not. I don't like being a wayframer, and 532 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: so it just kind of gets old. I'm heads off 533 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: to everybody who does, who lives that life. I just don't. 534 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. 535 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Latrell's our guest. 536 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: I've had a number of parents who emailed in and 537 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: said my kids want to do my son wants to 538 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: do Special Forces, or young people saying I want to 539 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: do Special Forces? How do you know who's cut out 540 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: for that? What should I be doing to prepare for that? 541 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: And we talked about you prepared from the time you 542 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: were twelve. If someone I think a lot of people 543 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: want to, very few can and and the Seals will 544 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: will will weed those out themselves. But when you, what's 545 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: the thing you got to have? You know a lot 546 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: of seals. You've own a lot of seals. He's been 547 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: a seal, Yes, sir, you know. 548 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: To answer that question, you would save the government millions 549 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: of tax bang dollars trying to figure out why one 550 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: guy makes doing one guy doesn't. I think the overall 551 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: concept behind it is the willingness to step outside yourself 552 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: and commit to the kind of team environment, to sacrifice 553 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: yourself for the betterment of the team. Willing, you know, 554 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: being able to give your life for another man, and 555 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: saying to yourself, no matter what happens to me, I'm 556 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: not gonna quit. You're gonna have to kill me to 557 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: get me out of here. That was a mentality I 558 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: had pretty much mentality every one of the guys that 559 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: I went to training had to. And you mean everybody 560 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 3: can tell themselves that they're like, oh, I'll do that, Okay, 561 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: we'll see. And then the beauty about our training pipeline 562 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: is it finds everybody's weakness. I don't care what your 563 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: strengths are and how strong you are, and if you 564 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 3: think you're strong and everything, eventually it's going to find it, 565 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: and it's going to exploit it the entire time you're there. 566 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: Once they find it, and you've got to be able 567 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: to accept that you're gonna get beat down, You're not 568 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: gonna pass everything, You're not gonna be the best at everything. 569 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: And a lot of guys who have never had any defeat, 570 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 3: you know, they've never been tested. They don't know how 571 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: to deal with that. 572 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: More of our interview with Marcus Latrell coming up next, 573 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: Proud to Be a Barry Brigader. 574 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: A Marvel display of poison leadership, The Michael. 575 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Barry Show, Astonishingly Liberal. 576 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: The last part of our interview with Marcus Latrell. The 577 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: movie opens tonight Loan Survivor. Marcus Latrell, what's your greatest regret? 578 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: Not being able to finish what I started? I didn't 579 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: get a chance to finish out in my career like 580 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to. 581 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: What are you most proud of. 582 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: My family? 583 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: When people go and see this. 584 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: Movie Movie Long Survivor, which opens this weekend, what do 585 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: you hope they take away from it? 586 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: I've been asking that question before him. I guess the 587 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: same reply would be that that it's not a movie 588 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: that tries to throw something in your face. And I 589 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: don't know if I think we talked about it, not 590 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: religion of politics, no pro war, anti war, hind this, 591 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: that and the other. I think people go in with 592 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: thinking one thing and hopefully they come out they pull 593 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: something from it. Whether it's no matter how hard it 594 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: an gets, I'm not going to quit. Whether it's that 595 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: there's good people in every part of this world, whether 596 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: that it's you know, American men and women are willing 597 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: to fight to the death because they said they would. 598 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you keep going on and on. 599 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: You're a man of incredible intestinal fortitude. You you responded 600 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: to getting knocked down literally in life in a way 601 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: that I think most of us we really gravitate to that. 602 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: We don't know you personally. 603 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: We know a guy who is is this sort of 604 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: you know, this dream that we live out, this amazing 605 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: thing that you've done, and you represent what we all 606 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: I think, want to be. When you look back on 607 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: your life, who made the most difference? Who is the reason, 608 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: Marcus Latrelle is that Who is that person. 609 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: That invested in you? 610 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: I'd have to say, you know, God, my face pretty strong. 611 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: And then after that, it's my brother. He's been with 612 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: me since the womb and he's never left my son. 613 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: And because of that, I mean, he's been with me 614 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: through every up, through every down, and never once wavered 615 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: in his love for me. That's probably why we're best 616 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: friends to this day. 617 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: That's a great story. It's a great story. 618 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: I know you have a busy day. I know you 619 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: have a lot going on. I really appreciate you giving 620 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 2: us the time. But more importantly, I really appreciate that 621 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: throughout everything you've done, I've always since that. 622 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: It was not for you. 623 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: It was for Danny Deet's and Matthew Axelson and Michael 624 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: Murphy and a lot of folks out there whose names 625 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: will never be splashed across the scene and across the screen. 626 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: And I really sense that you have such a love 627 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: and respect for those people, and you have turned that 628 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: it has become your ministry. And for that and for 629 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: all of those that was the one thing people said 630 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: more than anything else when I asked for questions to 631 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: give to you, was I don't have a question. Just 632 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: tell him, thank you, thank you for the son that 633 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: didn't come home, thank you for the guys that are suffering, 634 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: thank you for everything he does and continues to do. 635 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: So that's my message from all of us. Thank you, 636 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Marcus la Trew. 637 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and tell all your listeners that thank 638 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: you for having me on the program and listening to 639 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: my story. All right, Bud, thanks for the commitment, and 640 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: not ever forgetting about my teammates. 641 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: You got a big voice. Continue to use it, yes, sir, 642 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: all right, looking forward to seeing that be good. I'm 643 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: gonna see that this weekend. I'm going to head out 644 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: and see that this weekend. 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