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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Calida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome into a Friday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. And it has happened. The final

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Speaker 1: beam now in place, so all the structural steel has

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Speaker 1: been laid for the new hei Mark Stadium, major, major

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Speaker 1: press conference and event here today just across the street,

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Speaker 1: across Abbod Road, and here to join us and to

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Speaker 1: shed some more light on the project is Bill's Vice

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Speaker 1: president of stadium Development, John Polka. Jon. Good to have

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Speaker 1: you here in studio with us. Appreciate you taking the

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Speaker 1: time on what is a busy end landmark day for

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Speaker 1: what has been your life for the better part of

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Speaker 1: the last three years. So let's begin with what has

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Speaker 1: now been completed across the street. In terms of the

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Speaker 1: stages here, how far along would you say this puts

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Speaker 1: the project?

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Speaker 2: You're probably well first, thanks sir, having today. I'm definitely

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Speaker 2: always excited to talk about the project as much as

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Speaker 2: we can take a break from the grind of the

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Speaker 2: day to day and actually have, you know, enjoy what's

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Speaker 2: going on over there. So we're probably you know, by

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Speaker 2: volume in place, we're probably approaching sixty percent upper fifix. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: wrapping up major milestone today, wrapping up the actual structural

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Speaker 2: portion of it. You'll still see steel going in over there,

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Speaker 2: that secondary steel that we would call it's going to

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Speaker 2: support all the other stuff going up, and major milestone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we were interesting.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting because almost two years ago you're breaking ground,

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Speaker 3: so that makes sense. And the time frame it's about

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Speaker 3: sixty percent of the time it's been till it's we're

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Speaker 3: It's it's interesting too because you know, we're over here

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Speaker 3: every day and we we remember we're seeing highlights of

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Speaker 3: it now blasting, you know, the explosions.

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Speaker 1: We felt over here, right, Yeah, we felt.

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Speaker 4: It, hopefully not during this hour of the show.

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Speaker 3: And we'd run outside, sure enough, you'd run outside to

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Speaker 3: look over and there'd be cluss debris and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And the absolute speed with which the thing has it's

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Speaker 3: grown like a weed. You we could see it every

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Speaker 3: day and then to other people, you know, fans would

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Speaker 2: It's it's incredible to think about chrome breaking in June

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Speaker 2: of twenty three, but it's more incredible to think that

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Speaker 2: the first piece of steel was set just fourteen months ago.

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Speaker 2: So everything you see from a structure standpoint has been

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Speaker 2: done in fourteen months, which is through two winters, which

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Speaker 2: is incredible.

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Speaker 1: The skeleton, for all intents and purposes done for this stadium.

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Speaker 1: And now we go to precast panels, and for maybe

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Speaker 1: our listeners who don't understand exactly what that is, maybe

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Speaker 1: just kind of shed some light on the precast panels

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Speaker 1: because that's next. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we've talked before about the different types of precast.

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Speaker 2: Their structural precast, which are the ones that make up

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Speaker 3: Concrete. What they do is they put as big a

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Speaker 1: Precast panels are going on the outside.

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Speaker 2: the building is the architectural precast that we call them.

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Speaker 2: that's the next stuff that you're going to start.

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Speaker 1: That's what's been called the skin, right, the skin.

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Speaker 2: All of those, all of those items together will make

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Speaker 3: So you I don't know how much time you spend

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Speaker 1: The thing that gets you about.

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Speaker 3: It is the intimacy that this huge stadium is going

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be. This is going to be like

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Speaker 2: When we were just down on the field with Commissioner Goodell,

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Speaker 1: I'll say it's too I get a chance.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to some of the execs with I

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Speaker 3: guess Legends, the stadium building company, and they put they

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Speaker 3: have projects everywhere around the world, and it was kind

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Speaker 3: He goes, I don't care, and the guy I was

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Speaker 3: or we just opened a place in Tokyo, a big

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Speaker 3: building in to this place is going to be really special.

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Speaker 3: Even the guys who build these for a living are like, man,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's you know, Legends, Gilbain, Turner, Populis, the three

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Speaker 2: entities that we've really engaged to do this project. You're right,

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Speaker 2: it's exciting to see them excited about a project when

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Speaker 2: they see a lot of them, but this one has

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Speaker 2: been special to them for multitude reasons.

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Speaker 1: One thing that's hard for fans to see from the

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Speaker 1: they're working on they're working all around this building, but

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Speaker 1: we can't see the interior spaces, so what's happening there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the tarps that you see up on the

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Speaker 2: So yeah, cruise to your point of working behind the

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Speaker 2: The field Club is probably the area that's furthest along

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Speaker 2: Field Club, home locker room, those areas you can walk

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Speaker 2: the walls that are in place. We were actually up

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Speaker 2: They're gonna start this fall in a few months. They're

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Speaker 2: I mean that stuff's moving right along. Yeah, So this

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Speaker 2: the next few weeks. The field itself will be in

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Speaker 1: That'll make the turf stronger and more resilient too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can you know, people have seen

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Speaker 2: But the reality is the more time you get for

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Speaker 1: The cool thing that we were talking about just before

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Speaker 1: But I want to mention this because a lot of

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Speaker 1: what about the snow on the canopy? But there is

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Speaker 2: Right yep, massive snow melt system in the canopy itself.

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Speaker 2: And when you're driving by now you can actually see

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Speaker 3: One of the other things too, is that obviously were

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Speaker 3: fifty years in fact, it was almost what's sixty fifty

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Speaker 3: when the stadium was put up.

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Speaker 1: The old stadium.

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Speaker 3: A few technological advances, like, I mean, you can have

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Speaker 3: And also the guys I was talking to and they're like, listen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting when you think about some of

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Speaker 2: the same, right, but the technology is entirely different. So

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Speaker 2: obviously one of the big complaints on campus and in

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Speaker 2: the cellular coverage. That's going to be the things that

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Speaker 2: to make sure that you always have access to whatever

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Speaker 2: coming in, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you guys, at least, as I understood it, you've

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Speaker 1: tested at least one of the speakers sound systems. And

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Speaker 1: it was like whoa, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So they we were actually out at the facility where

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Speaker 4: It sounded incredible.

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Speaker 2: Then they bring the speakers out, they hoist them into place,

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Speaker 2: that nothing happens in transit sounds the way they intend

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Speaker 2: for it to sound. And to your point, that was

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Speaker 2: one cluster of thirty two in total that will be

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Speaker 2: sound was incredible. So we were one of those moments,

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Speaker 2: because it's one of those moments where you like, we

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Speaker 2: know it's going to be great, yea, but then you

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Speaker 4: And you can, like you hear it, You're like startling, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: What is that like when you like, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you the time you guys

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Speaker 1: have put into this, and I know the big investment

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Speaker 1: technology wise was the sound over the video, which quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: just changes so often it's hard to keep up with that.

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Speaker 1: So you guys chose sound to invest in. And then

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Speaker 1: when you're out there and you're hearing it for the

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Speaker 1: first time, are you all looking at each other.

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Speaker 4: Like it's one of the Its one of those moments today.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those moments where you've got a

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Speaker 1: Of different Yeah, they haven't all been sunny days.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what about seating, layouts and rails, Like,

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Speaker 2: I would expect the fans coming. You know, last year

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Speaker 4: Right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's not too far from the Yeah. And I would

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Speaker 2: Once you get the building up, now you can work

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Speaker 3: So what have you got still to do outside the stadium?

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Speaker 4: A lot like it was last year? We're losing a

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Speaker 2: So actually we've been working a little bit with Andy

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Speaker 3: So this is right, this is gonna so it's gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah that that are now within the construction right, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: Year we're in a great spot.

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Speaker 3: One of the things too, is the you know, the

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Speaker 2: There's more than there's a more than we there's more

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Speaker 1: Well, John, good luck with the rest of what's in

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the congratulations today too.

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Speaker 1: Great. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again congratulations to the hard working folks who

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things they're gonna stick with

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Speaker 2: It will leave you guys with a good story kind

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Speaker 4: So it was really really cool to meet those.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a really cool idea.

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Speaker 2: Agree, it was great he mentioned it, and those are

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Speaker 2: I'm glad Terry, you know, wants that commitment for those folks.

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Speaker 1: John, thanks for the time, because we know you don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of it these days. Good luck with

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys very much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's John Polka, vice President's Stadium Development joining us. We

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Speaker 1: Friday programming on this very special day for the new

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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Speaker 1: and we're just kind of reflecting on, you know, the

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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool too that mister Pegoula kind

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Speaker 1: It's like you're not it's not happening by accident sometimes,

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Speaker 3: And it's true this uh, this project. It was even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the other cool thing that the organis

442
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Speaker 1: has made a point of doing. Obviously, you have people

443
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Speaker 1: intimately involved in this stadium going up, like John Polka,

444
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Speaker 1: our vice president of stadium Development, who we just had

445
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Speaker 1: here in studio with us shedding some more light on

446
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Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the stadium construction, and other

447
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Speaker 1: people that it's their job here every single day until

448
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Speaker 1: this thing is complete. But for those of us that

449
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Speaker 1: are a little bit further removed from it, I think

450
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Speaker 1: the organization has done a wonderful job of including us,

451
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Speaker 1: making us feel a part of it, whether they were

452
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Speaker 1: allowing us as employees to kind of tour the facility

453
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Speaker 1: as it was going up back in the fall, or

454
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Speaker 1: even today, you know, not only just attending the event,

455
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Speaker 1: but you know, signing the final beam, you know, with

456
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Speaker 1: markers and stuff, you know, letting us kind of be

457
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Speaker 1: a part, a very small part albeit, but a part

458
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Speaker 1: nonetheless of the project. So you know, we're all running

459
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Speaker 1: over there this morning and we're signing the beam. You

460
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Speaker 1: know that's going to go up and be the last

461
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Speaker 1: piece of structural steal going in. Is anybody gonna see

462
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Speaker 1: that thing? Probably not, you know, it's gonna be behind

463
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Speaker 1: some dry wall and god knows what else. But I

464
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Speaker 1: think it's yeah, it's up under the roof. It's nice.

465
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Speaker 1: But it's a nice touch that you know they're allowing.

466
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Speaker 1: And look, everybody that attended today got to sign it,

467
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Speaker 1: whether it was the construction workers that have been doing

468
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Speaker 1: the real hard work or politicians. I know Governor Cathy

469
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Speaker 1: Hlchell signed the beam as well Commissioner Goodell before it

470
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Speaker 1: went in there. I just I just like the way

471
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Speaker 1: they've included everybody.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've made it into it's not just a Buffalo

473
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Speaker 3: Bill's project. It's it's a regional project. It's the largest

474
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Speaker 3: you've heard a ton hundred times. It's the largest construction

475
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Speaker 3: project in this region's history. And thousands of people are involved,

476
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Speaker 3: and it's really cool that they are. It's a lot

477
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Speaker 3: like the Bill's Mafia. Everybody's if you're if you want in,

478
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Speaker 3: you're in. You can come help, and uh, it was

479
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 3: really a great atmosphere. I you know, we we work

480
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Speaker 3: right across the street from it. In the in the

481
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: fieldhouse here, and I was driving in. I was like,

482
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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe I don't don't really need to

483
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Speaker 3: be over there. I don't know if I should or whatever,

484
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Speaker 3: but man, oh man, it really it was worth it

485
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Speaker 3: to me. I I went over there. I was signing

486
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Speaker 3: guys construction helm as they were like, hey, I didn't this,

487
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Speaker 3: I was signed, I signed, I did not sign.

488
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Speaker 1: I didn't sign the beam. I figured too, I'm.

489
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Speaker 3: If my name is already on the wall the stadium,

490
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Speaker 3: So there you go to sign the stadium.

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Speaker 1: There you got that? Well, is that a that works?

492
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Speaker 1: That's a pompous thing, and a lot more people will

493
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Speaker 1: see that. You're right, So I leave some room for you,

494
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Speaker 1: and thanks, I appreciate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

496
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Speaker 1: So right.

497
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Speaker 3: Plus plus I couldn't I just I couldn't make my

498
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Speaker 3: way over there. I kept getting stopped by the by

499
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Speaker 3: the construction guys. So I never really made it past

500
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Speaker 3: the first ten feet of the place. Great great group, man,

501
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Speaker 3: Because all the guys over there, I was asking them everybody.

502
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 3: I go, you yeah, ah, you local? They go, oh yeah,

503
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm Lancaster. I'm not there are everybody

504
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Speaker 3: over there is a native Native Buffalonian. It was an

505
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Speaker 3: awesome atmosphere because it really had the community feeling. Maddie said,

506
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Speaker 3: she mc the whole thing. This is like technically it's

507
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Speaker 3: the first tailgate.

508
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Speaker 1: For the state. It was, and it was, it was great.

509
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Speaker 3: I can't get over though, And I mentioned it, and

510
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Speaker 3: I keep going back to it.

511
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Speaker 1: How cool it was.

512
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Speaker 3: That just everybody was involved, and that there's thousands of

513
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Speaker 3: guys over there every day. And I've said it before,

514
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 3: nobody is over there leaning on a shovel. I mean,

515
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Speaker 3: it's busy all the time. They are really really got there.

516
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: They got their noses of the grindstone, all of them, everybody.

517
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Speaker 3: You'd never see anybody with nothing to do if you

518
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Speaker 3: go over there for any reason. It's a beehive and

519
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: ant hill, whatever you want to call it.

520
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Speaker 1: It is on it.

521
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Speaker 3: And that's why it has happened so smoothly here, even

522
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Speaker 3: with the weather and the hard winter we had. Man,

523
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Speaker 3: oh man, they are making some headway.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. You have the business of football to

525
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Speaker 1: get to, which is what we usually do here on

526
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Speaker 1: this show. And with the draft less than three weeks away,

527
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Speaker 1: we are seeing the mock drafts come fast and furious

528
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Speaker 1: Chad Ruter from NFL dot Com put together an interesting

529
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Speaker 1: approach to the draft. He put together repairing of the

530
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Speaker 1: ideal top two picks for each NFL team with their

531
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Speaker 1: first two draft choices. For Buffalo, he believes that to

532
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Speaker 1: be Texas wide receiver Matthew Golden at thirty and then

533
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Speaker 1: Iowa state corner Darien Porter had picked fifty six in

534
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Speaker 1: round two. Here's what he wrote. The Bills traded down

535
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Speaker 1: in last year's first round, allowing the Chiefs to grab

536
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Speaker 1: speedy receiver Xavier Worthy. Great start Chad. This year, Buffalo

537
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: could make its own move for a Texas receiver. Golden

538
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: speed and ability to win and contested catches down field

539
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Speaker 1: would make up for the loss of maccollins in free agency.

540
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Speaker 1: Buffalo has two second round picks, The first from Houston

541
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Speaker 1: is part of last year's Digs trade. The last cornerback

542
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Speaker 1: drafted by the Bills in the first two rounds was

543
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Speaker 1: kyr Elam Thanks again, Chad was traded to the Cowboy

544
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: this offseason. Porter's size and speed fit what Buffalo desires outside. Now, look,

545
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Speaker 1: am I saying that Matthew Golden cannot happen in the

546
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Speaker 1: first round? I am not saying that, but just last year,

547
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Speaker 1: you used your first pick on a receiver who I

548
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Speaker 1: still believe the Bill's think an awful lot of to

549
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Speaker 1: think that with all their defensive needs, they're going to

550
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Speaker 1: go right back to the receiver position. I just find

551
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Speaker 1: it hard to cut my way down that path. I think.

552
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Keon Coleman has a lot more under

553
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: the hood than we were able to see this year.

554
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Speaker 3: I think he was really really hamstrung by the timing

555
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Speaker 3: of his wrist injury and the way the season fell

556
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Speaker 3: for him. I think, you know, I think they're really

557
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Speaker 3: I think they really have reason to be have high

558
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Speaker 3: expectations for Coleman. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like those

559
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: two picks the guy put together, Matt Golden and Porter

560
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: the corner. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay, but they still you know,

561
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: if those guys turn out to be really good players, yeah,

562
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. But you know, we've been talking

563
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: about it a lot. I still think they're gonna have

564
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Speaker 3: to go big and heavy at the top of this

565
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: draft on the defensive side. But if you get good players,

566
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: we all agree with this. We get good players, nobody

567
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: cares where you picked them. Or what was happening when

568
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: it was going on. Remember that they go, yeah, we

569
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: got that guy, we got yeah. So if you get

570
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Speaker 3: good players, I'm okay. I'm okay with it.

571
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Speaker 1: It's pre draft visit season for NFL clubs as well,

572
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Speaker 1: and there is a report that the Bills will be

573
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Speaker 1: hosting edge rusher Femi Oladejo the u c l A

574
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Speaker 1: Edge on a pre draft visit. Now, this is a

575
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Speaker 1: player that is probably going to go later in the draft.

576
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: A lot of teams will only bring in highly touted

577
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Speaker 1: player that will probably go somewhere on the first two

578
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: days of the draft. The Bills do this a little

579
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: bit differently. They don't always bring in the highest rated

580
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: players for pre draft visits. There are other players that

581
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: are probably going on Day two or Day three that

582
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Speaker 1: they will have in from time to time. I think

583
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Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons they hit on so many

584
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Speaker 1: middle round picks, because they do take the time to

585
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Speaker 1: get to know some of these middle round prospects as

586
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: much as the higher ranked players. And I think this

587
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: kid is an example of that.

588
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: But I think they're also they also make an effort

589
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: to bring guys in they know that they're going to

590
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 3: have a shot at drafting, and that means you got

591
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: to go down your board quite a bit. And you know,

592
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: particularly whatever, well you can pick whatever position you want

593
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 3: or whatever year you want, you got you gotta know

594
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: picking thirtieth, you're not gonna have a shot at at

595
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: you know, Abdul Carter. Why are you gonna bring him in?

596
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

597
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: And then you start to get into and I think

598
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Speaker 3: there are some teams and we've I think, I don't

599
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: know if we've seen the Bill do this. It felt

600
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: like the Bills did this where they'd bring a guy

601
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: in they had no intention of drafting. You know, it's

602
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: a smoke screen, remember you know John Butler used to

603
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 3: do that all the time. They'd talk about everybody except

604
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: the guy they were gonna draft.

605
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

606
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any of that going on,

607
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: but I still think I think it's really hard, and

608
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: I think they cast a wide net, like you said,

609
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: of guys they know at some point they're gonna be

610
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: that are gonna be on the board for their picks.

611
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Speaker 1: Right, this kid is a kid that's got some measurables.

612
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: He's six three, two fifty nine. That's not what I'm

613
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: talking about. It he has almost thirty four inch arms,

614
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: which for an edge they tend to like. They like

615
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: the long angular types. It's hard to find Greg Russeau's

616
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: every year, but they like guys that are longer on

617
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: the edges. And you know, first two years at CAL,

618
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: last two years at UCLA, and while his sack production

619
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: isn't anything that would make your eyes pop, I think

620
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: they see developmental upside here. And he's probably a late

621
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: Day two early day three pick. Did not run at

622
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: the combine, but had a thirty six and a half

623
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: inch vertical and a ten foot broad jump, twenty reps

624
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: on the bench press at two hundred and fifty nine

625
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: pounds with almost thirty four inch arms. Twenty reps on

626
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Speaker 1: the bench with.

627
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: Thirty four inch arm, it's hard to push the weight

628
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: all that way.

629
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Speaker 1: So you know, he's probably one of many. But that

630
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: the latest report out I had him visiting Buffalo.

631
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Speaker 3: It's fun to think about, you know, how this is

632
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: going to all take place. You know, Roger Goodell was

633
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: in town for this today and you know we're going

634
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: to see him at the I mean that's when he

635
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: see him the most, is draft weekend, right, that's right.

636
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: Coming out to the podium for Round one and all

637
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Speaker 1: thirty two picks. Let's go around the NFL presented by

638
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: Kaleida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills,

639
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: and Geno Smith has a new contract extension. A month

640
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: after his trade to the Las Vegas Raiders from Seattle,

641
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders have signed him to a two year, seventy

642
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: five million dollar extension, sixty six of which is guaranteed.

643
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: There was talk right after the trade that that was

644
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: going to happen since he was entering the last year

645
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: of his current deal. So, you know, Pete Carroll, who

646
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Speaker 1: had him in Seattle, obviously still thinks a lot of him,

647
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have him with the Raiders. Now, Yeah,

648
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: he's the guy.

649
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: Two year deal, it's you know, yeah, it's appropriate, it's appropriate.

650
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: And I think Gino's smart for taking a sixty six

651
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: million guaranteed. That's an awesome deal for him and for

652
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: two years, the Raiders have got a guy, and that

653
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: means too for me in my mind, they can they

654
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: could draft a guy this year and good and this year,

655
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: next year, this year, have him sit behind Gino and

656
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: next year compete and if he wins, okay, if not,

657
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Speaker 3: Gino's still playing good.

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Speaker 1: Let him.

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Speaker 3: Let Gino play and incubate the guy. But you gotta

660
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Speaker 3: find the right guy, and if the guy turns out

661
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Speaker 3: to be a stiff, you can draft another one when

662
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Speaker 3: Gino's last year of this deal.

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Speaker 1: So smart moved by the Raiders in Pete Carroll Arizona

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Speaker 1: tight end Trey McBride has reset the tight end market

665
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Speaker 1: with his new contract. Tight end position had been lagging

666
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Speaker 1: behind many other positions in terms of top ten average

667
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Speaker 1: annual salary money. No more four years seventy six million

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Speaker 1: for McBride had a career best one hundred eleven receptions

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Speaker 1: for over one thousand yards. The crazy thing was he

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Speaker 1: was like in Week fourteen, he still didn't have a

671
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Speaker 1: touchdown catch, finished the season with two touchdown receptions, but

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Speaker 1: he was a top target of Kyler Murray at least

673
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Speaker 1: as far as sustaining Drives was concerned. This was a

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Speaker 1: guy that the Bills liked an awful lot. He was

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Speaker 1: drafted The year prior to the season, they drafted Dalton Kincaid.

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Speaker 1: He was a guy they were very high on, but

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals swooped in and picked him. I think it

678
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Speaker 1: was in round two A few years back before the

679
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Speaker 1: Bills were on the board, so you know they pivoted

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Speaker 1: the next year and took Kincate. Steelers are hosting four

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Speaker 1: draft prospects for pre draft visits all today. One of

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Speaker 1: them my guy, Oregon nose tackle Jamari Caldwell, Ole Miss

683
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Speaker 1: quarterback Jackson Dart, South Carolina safety nickimn Warri and Iowa

684
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Speaker 1: State wide receiver Jalen Noel. I know a lot of

685
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Speaker 1: guys are high on Jaden Higgins, the big, tall wide

686
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Speaker 1: receiver at Iowa State. I like Jalen Noel. That guy

687
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Speaker 1: is a nice place say this to.

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Speaker 3: And I was listening to talk radio TV all around

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Speaker 3: the country this morning, you know, trying to keep them

690
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: you know, he always do and they somebody made the

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Speaker 3: observation and rightfully. So the Steelers don't get guys in

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Speaker 3: there to visit unless they're going to draft.

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Speaker 1: Well a high percentage of their visits turn into draft.

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Speaker 3: They draft guys they have spoken to eye to eye

695
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Speaker 3: in their facility a lot. So it says something. I

696
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: think the most intriguing guy and on that is Jackson Dart.

697
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: You can just twenty one right and with Aaron Rodgers

698
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Speaker 3: hanging out in the background, you bring Jackson Dart in

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Speaker 3: to watch for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Well, Aaron still hasn't decided whether the Fisher Cup.

701
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Speaker 3: And that may be and that may be why, because

702
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: the Seedar is gonna say, listen, Aaron, we can come

703
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Speaker 3: in and play, but we're gonna pack a guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't pick a guy. I think he prefers Minnesota. Truthfully,

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Speaker 1: maybe Minnesota hasn't chosen him yet because they want to

706
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Speaker 1: see what's going on with JJ McCarthy's knee when he

707
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Speaker 1: comes in for the offseason conditioning program in a couple

708
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Speaker 1: of weeks. That's what's I think holding everything up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why Minnesota would hesitate. I mean, and.

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Speaker 1: He's a quarterback. It's not like he's a running back.

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Speaker 1: I think as long as they know he's going to

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Speaker 1: be healthy, they're going with the kid. But if there

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Speaker 1: is any debate on that from their medical team, they say,

715
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Speaker 1: all right, you know what, let's stop gap it with

716
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Speaker 1: Rogers this year and you know, get McCarthy in halfway

717
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Speaker 1: through the season. Whatever it is. I think that's the

718
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Speaker 1: big holdup right now. But maybe I don't know why

719
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Speaker 1: they can't just bring him in earlier and say, hey,

720
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: we need to medically recheck you, like check your progress

721
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Speaker 1: and what have you. But I don't know. Couple of

722
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Speaker 1: pre draft visits for the Cowboys as well, and both

723
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Speaker 1: are running backs, which is a need position for Dallas.

724
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. North Carolina running back Omrion

725
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Speaker 1: Hampton and Ohio State running back Quinshawn Judkins are visiting

726
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys this weekend and today is the Colorado Showcase

727
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: where should Door Sanders is going to throw. No word

728
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Speaker 1: yet on whether Travis Hunter will work out, but there

729
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Speaker 1: is a huge contingent of NFL executives on hand out

730
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Speaker 1: there and Boulder coaches and scouts. The Titans, Browns, and

731
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Speaker 1: Giants picking one, two, and three have the largest contingents

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Speaker 1: in attendance. No surprise there.

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Speaker 3: It's being reported that Travis Hunter is gonna run routes. Uh,

734
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Speaker 3: He's decided to at the last minute. He's gonna run routes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's actually going to take place

736
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Speaker 3: or not, but he was gonna he was not gonna

737
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Speaker 3: work out at Colorado's pro day, and then I heard

738
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Speaker 3: there was a report earlier this morning that he was

739
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Speaker 3: going to at least run routes with the wideouts and

740
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Speaker 3: so Shadur could throw to him.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

742
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Speaker 3: But yeah, interesting that the number one prospect at Colorado

743
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: may not have been doing anything, but it looks like

744
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: he's going to do something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's kind of where it's at around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We do want to remind you it's the OBL Fan

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Speaker 1: Friday edition of One Bills Live, So the fan mail

748
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Speaker 1: bag is open for you to ask any question on

749
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Speaker 1: your mind about the Bills, the league, the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: draft prospects, whatever you have in mind. Fire away at

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Speaker 1: us at eight h three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight eight five point fifty two, five fifty the

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Speaker 1: numbers to get on board. We you had mentioned in

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Speaker 1: hour number two of the show, we will have our

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Speaker 1: good friend Greg co Sell, senior producer from NFL Films,

756
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Speaker 1: will go over the latest position group, which this week

757
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: will be the safety spot. So we'll go over some

758
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Speaker 1: of the top handful of safety prospects in the draft.

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Speaker 1: We're familiar with a couple of them. We'll go a

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Speaker 1: little bit deeper with Greg in the second hour of

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Speaker 1: the show, but any question on your mind, fire away.

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Speaker 1: We got open lines for you at eight h three

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Speaker 1: zero five to fifty one eight eight eight five point

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. I think today, though, we are

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Speaker 1: going to begin on the tweet sheet side, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of you have been firing away questions since last

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Speaker 1: night in anticipation of today's show. Tweets sheet brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills and Bill Asks schedule question. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys think the Bills play on both Black Friday

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Speaker 1: and Christmas this year? I'm gonna playing on Christmas. I

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Speaker 1: think it's one. I don't think it's bold.

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Speaker 3: They're playing on Christmas. Ain't no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: You can, like I say, well it's a triple header. Yeah,

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00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: it's a triple here's gonna be six teams playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna be one. There's just absolutely no way.

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Speaker 3: They don't unless getting up to that point something happens,

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Speaker 3: they flex it out of there or something. But no,

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Speaker 3: the Bills are playing on Christmas. I'm I told you yesterday,

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Speaker 3: get your hammer and chisel out with your little block

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Speaker 3: of granite.

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Speaker 1: Especially with the home schedule as headlining as it is.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna play at home on Christmas. That's the call.

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Speaker 1: Because they have Philadelphia, Baltimore, Kansas City, Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Bay, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, I mean along with the Patriots, Jets, Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I mean New Orleans is there, okay, but everybody else

787
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: was a playoff team, with the exception of Cincinnati. But

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Speaker 1: that's still Burrow Allen.

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Speaker 3: You got the Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens, and Bengals. Yeah, one

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00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: of those games gonna happen on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: But even the Bucks were a you know, a.

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Speaker 3: That's not a sexy it's it's not It's Chiefs, Eagles, Bengals, Ravens.

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Speaker 3: That's what's gonna Ravens game has got a really good

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Speaker 3: chance at it, particularly, and they anticipate again both those

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Speaker 3: guys are going to be looking at the MVP on

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Speaker 3: Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: That lateness. Come on, man, let's go. We gotta wait

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Speaker 1: till next month for that.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Cool your Jets there, buddy, We got a little

801
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: ways to go. Pump the brakes. Uh. JG on the

802
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: in the mail bag asks how do you think the

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Speaker 1: Bills value NFL readiness in prospects this draft? They need

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00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: to start at corner depth at other positions. Are they

805
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: more or less likely to go after the traitsy high

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00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: upside athlete who lacks experience given their roster makeup, Does

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Speaker 1: win now impact their selections. I think it does have

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Speaker 1: some influence. Yeah, it's a very good question. I think

809
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Speaker 1: it does have some influence, but not at every position.

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00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Corner you need a guy that is, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the fast track to start right away. But here's the thing.

812
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: In order to start right away at corner in this league,

813
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: you better have traits. So you kind of got to

814
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: have both. You gotta be on a fast track to

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Speaker 1: play right now, because that's what they need, they arguably

816
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: need to start. I don't opposite Christians.

817
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Speaker 3: You don't go into the draft generally speaking, you don't

818
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: go into a draft in that mindset. You go into

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Speaker 3: the draft saying, Okay, what are the guys on the board?

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Speaker 3: Which one helps us the most, which one's the most ready?

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Speaker 3: Why is this guy who might be more ready at

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Speaker 3: this position a better option than the guy who's not

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Speaker 3: quite as ready at another position.

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Speaker 1: So you're three years might be an even better prier.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to value and compare apples and oranges constantly,

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Speaker 3: or orange is more valuable at this pick or apples,

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Speaker 3: and which orange is this great orange over here better

828
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Speaker 3: than this halfway good apple over here?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's there's so many variables that go into this, so

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Speaker 3: it's not really a philosophy. It's more of an individual

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Speaker 3: comparison about one, two, maybe at the most three guys

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Speaker 3: that you're thinking about.

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Speaker 1: I think the best way to answer it is it's

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Speaker 1: to Steve's point, it's not a mindset in terms of

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Speaker 1: getting somebody who's got a higher floor right now and

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Speaker 1: is started ready. It's more it's a factor in the

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Speaker 1: final evaluation, and it is based on what the team needs,

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Speaker 1: and because they need a starter at corner, they may

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Speaker 1: take a guy that has slightly less upside but is

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Speaker 1: more ready to play now than maybe a guy that's

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Speaker 1: more of a project and may not be able to

843
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Speaker 1: play right away. Like I know, we all like Darien

844
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Speaker 1: Porter and the physical traits he has at six y

845
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Speaker 1: three one ninety five, but he's played corner for one

846
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Speaker 1: and a half seasons. Is that the guy you're drafting

847
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Speaker 1: in round one? Definitely not, I don't think, because is

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Speaker 1: he starter ready to play at the NFL level after

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Speaker 1: playing corner for a year and a half. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Right then you go in you say, well, you're looking

851
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: at like Sean mcdermot's looking over Brandon Bean, and Bean's going, dude,

852
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Speaker 3: the guy is huge, he's really fast, he's got an

853
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: enormous upside. That kind of stuff goes on. And so

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00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: here's here's three words. And I'm not trying to be facetious.

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Speaker 3: I'm really you gotta trust the process. Trust the process.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that they got to they and baked into

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Speaker 1: that is the fact that they have a coaching staff

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Speaker 1: that can develop players, sometimes peper than others. It does

859
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: tend to take time because the practice time in the

860
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Speaker 1: offseason is as infrequent as it has ever been, and

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Speaker 1: so development takes longer, even with one of the best

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Speaker 1: player development staffs in the league. Think about it.

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Speaker 3: You get drafted in the NFL said all right, now

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play some football. Here we go, and you

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Speaker 3: don't play football for six months because.

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Speaker 1: You can't practice. You don't even get to wear a

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Speaker 1: helmet or yeah, you don't even get put on gear

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Speaker 1: till August. Till August. I mean, it's like, how are

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Speaker 1: you gonna get better?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's really rough because back in the day,

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00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, when you were playing in a little bit

873
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: after the biggest leap you would see in a player

874
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: was off in year one to year two. Now it's

875
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: more year two to year three.

876
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 3: I remember I got drafted on a like a Wednesday

877
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: or something like that. Saturday I was on a flight,

878
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: or no Friday, I was on a flight. Saturday I

879
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: was in. You're on a field, helmets, cleats and short

880
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 3: we're running seven on sevens and you know with pros.

881
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like fast and furious.

882
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: And then we go to training camp in San Angelo,

883
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 3: Texas and it's fourteen days, two practices a day, both

884
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: have pads on and not. I was a wide receiver.

885
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: All those other guys over there you can hear going

886
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: bam bam bam.

887
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you get better quick though, you get callous,

888
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: or you die right, or you just walk out into the.

889
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: You walk up to day and night I'm out. It's

890
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: like you just walk off into the night, don't come back. Yeah,

891
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: it's hard to get better in today's interfact, you really

892
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: have to have a proto, which this staff does. But

893
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: it still takes time. They don't get their hands on

894
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: these guys, so it takes a while to develop them.

895
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: So there's that's a big question about this draft. That

896
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: was a good yues you can develop them, but man

897
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: oh man, it's by drips and drafts.

898
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: And how much you can get them on the pot.

899
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: It's a valid question from JG because with where this

900
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: team is and where they want to go right now,

901
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: they're not waiting for anybody. Yeah, or they can't. They

902
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: can't afford to wait for anybody with the holes they

903
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: have on defense. So yes, that's a really good question, JG.

904
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for it. Got to take a break here. When

905
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: we come back, more of your questions answered on this

906
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: obl Friday Fan mail Bag edition of One Bills Live.

907
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Give us a call if you have one eight h

908
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

909
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: five point fifty. We're back in a flash.

910
00:42:49,600 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 8: Stay with us all.

911
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: Right back here on One Bill's Live. Gonna go right

912
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: to the phones as we've got questions waiting there on

913
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: this Obel Friday Fan mail Bag edition. And to Nick

914
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: in New York, what's.

915
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: Up Nick, Hey Brownie, Hey, mister tasker. So I'm going

916
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 5: to call you guys about a million times between now

917
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: and April twenty fourth to talk about the drafts.

918
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Why we're here?

919
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 7: How over that?

920
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: Since it's a it's a Friday fan mail bag, So

921
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about another team, A team

922
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm very glad I don't root for, and since I

923
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 5: care about you guys, I'm glad you don't root for

924
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: them either. If the two of you were the general

925
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 5: managers of the Cleveland Browns, you gotta explain to me

926
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: how in the world do you square keeping Miles Garrett

927
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 5: in the face of what they've already admitted was a

928
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: quarterback debacle and a contract that's going to cost them,

929
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 5: I don't know, another seventy five million dollars more over

930
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: the next several years, not even playing with you know,

931
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 5: an obvious need to rebuild. But yet they're keeping Miles

932
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Garrett and maybe even extended him to a massive contract

933
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 5: instead of getting two or three first round picks for him.

934
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 5: I'd love to hear what you guys would have done differently,

935
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 5: if anything, if you were in charge of the Cleveland

936
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 5: Browns owners per strings.

937
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, appreciate the guys go bills. You bet,

938
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: thanks Nick. I think they're selling it as the fact

939
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: that they got the second pick of this draft. They're

940
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: going to get a really good player made, probably an

941
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: offensive player who can balance the field with Miles Garrett.

942
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: They've got a game wrecker in Garrett. They're going to

943
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: try and get that guy offensively, hopefully as a quarterback

944
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: by hook or crook, and then it try and start

945
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: building it without losing a Hall of Fame caliber player

946
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: in Miles Garrett. And I think they've there's no question

947
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: they've got an owner who doesn't like to get shown up.

948
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: That's how they got that.

949
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: That's how they got duped. That's how Sean Watson.

950
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: That's exactly how they got duped into Shawn Watson. So

951
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: the story goes. And so when Miles Garrett threw it

952
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: out there and put the gaunlet down, said get me

953
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: out of here because you know you can't get it right,

954
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: the owner takes it personally and ponies up.

955
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: They got duped again, and they did it again.

956
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Now Garrett is for real, He's worth hell, he's got

957
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: a chance to earn every cent of that contract. That's

958
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: how good he is. So you can say what you

959
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: want about the the the choice of not taking the

960
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: collateral that you would have gotten to trade Garrett, but

961
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: they still didn't lose because they they've got the guy

962
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: on their roster and he's a game record.

963
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: I think it would have been I think in fairness

964
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: to the Browns, And far be it for me to

965
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: be fair to a team that made a colossal mistake

966
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: and signing a quarterback and guaranteeing his full contract when

967
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: is off the field whose were readily apparent, among other things.

968
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: But I think we do have to remember that if

969
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the Browns moved Garrett off of their roster, it was

970
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty six million dollar cap hit. And

971
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: this is a team that is already in cap jail.

972
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: To your point, Nick, about all the outstanding money for

973
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's not even gonna play for him. So

974
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: you got ninety you're on the hook for another ninety

975
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: two million for Deshaun Watson, who's not gonna play this

976
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: year because he re injured his Achilles tendon. And the

977
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: thought of trading away your best defensive player and incurring

978
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: a thirty six million dollar cap hit for another guy

979
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: who's not going to play for you, I just don't

980
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: think they ever saw a way to square that. And

981
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: because of that, they say, what's the alternative. Let's throw

982
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: giant money at him and at least keep him in

983
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: the fold and figure out the rest after that. But

984
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: the thought of having your your what is perceived to

985
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: be your offensive leader he hasn't been, but your most

986
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: expensive offensive player and your most expensive d plage player

987
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: neither on the roster, but costing you gobs and gobs

988
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: and gobs of money. There's no way to square that.

989
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's why they took the route they

990
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: took right.

991
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: And they've got a chance to rebuild at the top

992
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: of each round of this draft, so they have every

993
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: reason to believe they're going to get three good players

994
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: and get it right.

995
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Dave in Buffalo here before the break.

996
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: What's up Dave there.

997
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 6: I've been watching the NFL and their interest in flag football,

998
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 6: and I wonder, particularly with the Olympics coming up, in

999
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 6: flag football being a sport there, whether we're going to

1000
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 6: see a seniors league for players in flag football and

1001
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 6: whether they could do that. And I'd love to see

1002
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: either head coach Steve Tasker and the seniors league, or

1003
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 6: maybe he wants to play in the senior league.

1004
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, all right, thanks talking about me. Yeah, he

1005
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: was talking about you. Steve plays golf, that's about.

1006
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: I walked nine holes of golf last night in the

1007
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: win and went home, sat down for Timmis. I couldn't

1008
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: get out of the chair. I was so sore after

1009
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: walking nine holes. So yeah, no, I ain't playing flag

1010
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: I will say that.

1011
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: I think the main reason the league has pushed flag

1012
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: football as an initiative, probably one of their biggest initiatives,

1013
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: is because it's a game that everyone can play, youth, boys, girls, men, women.

1014
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: It covers all avenues of the NFL fan base. I mean,

1015
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: for a long, long, long time, women could be fans

1016
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: of the game but not participate in any version of

1017
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: it on a competitive level. With flag football, they now can.

1018
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: For the league, that is a boon to their fan base.

1019
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Now half of their fan base is more heavily invested

1020
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: in the game because they are playing the game. It's

1021
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: a brilliant stroke in marketing the game. Not that the

1022
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: NFL needs a whole lot of help, but this ensures

1023
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: the other half of the population is going to be

1024
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: even more invested in the game. Of data.

1025
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: I think the data shows the league and I don't

1026
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: know this, I haven't seen it, but people who play

1027
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: flag football, kids, girls, boys, at different levels, youth all

1028
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: the way up through this Olympic movement. People who do that,

1029
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 3: take part in that, play it, coach it, whatever, are

1030
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 3: also because of that fans of the NFL. It just

1031
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: leads to being a fan of the game that at

1032
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: the highest level, the most physical level of the game.

1033
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: So the league is very much into a new generation,

1034
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 3: particularly in the wake of people who are some parents

1035
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: who are steering their kids away from contact football and

1036
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: into the flag football. They're very in tune to that.

1037
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: They know that it's it's not for everybody, and the

1038
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: tackle element of it. Flag football is hey, let's play

1039
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: and that's something that appeals to a lot of young kids.

1040
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: And man, oh man, you put it in the Olympics.

1041
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: Taches. Also, by the way, in the United States LA

1042
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight take the lid off. Everybody's going to be playing.

1043
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I think a league is possible probably after

1044
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: the Olympic.

1045
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: Now you've got for the first time an entire sport

1046
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: opened up to the Olympic Games. It's never football has

1047
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: never been a part of it. Ever, at any level

1048
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: in any way you couldn't. I mean, this is the

1049
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: only country that plays it. So flag football, however, that's different.

1050
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: And now you can have guys like you know what,

1051
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: a Josh James Cook, Tyreek Hill, all those guys. Yeah, yeah,

1052
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: I'll take a shot for a summer and go see

1053
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: if I can make an Olympic team.

1054
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here as we are at

1055
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. An hour number two begins

1056
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: with our good friend, senior producer from NFL Films, Greg

1057
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: cos We're gonna dive into the safety class in this

1058
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: year's draft. See what Greg has uncovered on film from

1059
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: some of the top prospects in this year's class. Greg

1060
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Cosel coming up next year on One Bill's Live presented

1061
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1062
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

1063
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: All Right, Happy Friday, second hour the show Here on

1064
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and joined to

1065
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: talk some more draft with senior producer from NFL Films,

1066
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: Greg co Cell. And we're gonna go over another defensive position,

1067
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: knowing it's probably going to be a defensive heavy draft.

1068
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: For the Bills and to the safety position. We go, Greg,

1069
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: how are.

1070
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: You, gentlemen? What's happening?

1071
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: We're plowing through positioned by position and we have you

1072
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: to help us. So thank goodness for that.

1073
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 7: You and me both, Brownie, You and me both.

1074
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: And one guy that you know. You talk about first

1075
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: round draft choices and elite physical traits. Nicki min Worri

1076
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: has him in spades. So we know that much. We know.

1077
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: What we need to know from you is his game.

1078
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: What do you see there?

1079
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's my favorite safety in the draft. I mean,

1080
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 7: I think he's a multi dimensional prospect. He can he's

1081
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 7: got as you basically just said, he's got an unbelievable

1082
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 7: size speed profile. I mean he ran a four to

1083
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 7: three eight at six three and an eight two twenty pounds.

1084
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 7: He can play in the box, he can play over

1085
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 7: the slot, he can play on the back end. I

1086
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: think he can play in two high safety structures. I

1087
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 7: think he can play as a post safety at times.

1088
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 7: He probably played more of a strong safety type role

1089
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 7: at South Carolina, but he had an incredible number of

1090
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 7: solo tackles, which you don't see very often from safety.

1091
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 7: Solo tackles. I think he's a really high level prospect.

1092
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 7: I think if you're going to play quarters coverage, he's

1093
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 7: a he'd be a phenomenal quarter safety. I think if

1094
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 7: you want to play big nickel, he can be part

1095
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 7: of a three safety package. He could align in the

1096
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 7: box as a linebacker in dime packages, as we've seen

1097
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 7: the Bills, do you know over the last couple of years,

1098
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 7: we've we saw them do that with with wrapnumber of

1099
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 7: times where he played in the box when they went dime. So,

1100
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 7: you know, I think em and worry to me, is

1101
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 7: is the best safety prospect in this draft class.

1102
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: And certainly when you're talking about it, the other name

1103
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: that comes into the conversation is Malachi Starks.

1104
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Starks I think is a different player. You know,

1105
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 7: he's not a great athlete. He's a good athlete, He's

1106
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 7: not a great athlete. Clearly at Georgia, he was deployed

1107
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 7: in a multi positional and multi dimensional way. To me,

1108
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 7: and maybe I'll be dead wrong and others could disagree,

1109
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 7: and that's okay. You know, I see him more as

1110
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 7: a Jesse Bates style of player. He's more of a

1111
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 7: back end player. He's got smooth, fluid movement, He's got

1112
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 7: transition traits on the back end. I think he did

1113
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 7: show physicality and aggression to run the alley and be

1114
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 7: a factor in the run game and make tackles, but

1115
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 7: I saw him more as that kind of player as

1116
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 7: opposed to a true who you know, I don't think

1117
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 7: he can do as much for a defense as Evan

1118
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 7: Warry can do, and he's certainly not as big, and

1119
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 7: I would say he's not quite the athlete Evian Warriors.

1120
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: A center fielder primarily. That's that's kind of him, yes,

1121
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: to some degree.

1122
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean obviously those guys play in two high

1123
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 7: safety structures as well, but I see him more as

1124
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 7: a back end safety, yes.

1125
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And from everything we've heard, one of the cleanest

1126
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: prospects in the draft in terms of background and character

1127
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: wise too. One guy that there seems to be a

1128
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: little bit of mixed opinion on is Andrew mccooba from Texas.

1129
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's due in part to his size.

1130
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: I thought he tested well enough, but you tell me, yeah, I.

1131
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 7: Think it's the size Brownie's. He was one eighty six

1132
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 7: of the combine. I mean, he's a really good football

1133
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 7: player for people who follow college football closely, they may

1134
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 7: remember as a true freshman at Clemson, he came right

1135
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 7: in and was a really, really impactful player, played three

1136
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 7: years at Clemson, finished his career at Texas this past year.

1137
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 7: I mean, he's twitchy, he's got sudden athleticism, he's decisive

1138
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 7: with his reactions. He's a really smooth athlete. I mean

1139
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 7: he will come down in the run game, and he

1140
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 7: is he's physical. Now he's not strong, he's only one

1141
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty six pounds, but he is physical. So

1142
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 7: you have to decide how you feel about the one

1143
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty six pounds. To me, that is going

1144
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 7: to be the main issue with him, because he is

1145
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 7: he's a really good football player, right, you know, And

1146
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: that's going to be the conversation. You know, can I

1147
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 7: live with a guy who's one hundred and eighty six

1148
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 7: as a safety, who if I want him to come

1149
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 7: down and you know, be truly a factor in the

1150
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 7: run game, maybe play in the box at times. Can

1151
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 7: he do that? But he's super aggressive, super competitive, there

1152
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 7: will be no problem with him wanting to do that.

1153
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 7: He's willing. He's very willing to be aggressive and competitive.

1154
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 7: It's just the way. That's the you don't see a

1155
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 7: lot of safeties at one eighty sixties days.

1156
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: That is true, and I even noted it in my

1157
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: notes because he I agree with you, he plays a

1158
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: very physical style. And you wonder if teams get concerned

1159
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: that one hundred and eighty six pounds safety that plays

1160
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: that physical is he gonna miss games because he may

1161
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: not hold up, you know, going against bigger, stronger, faster

1162
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: players in the league. Do you think that's a valid

1163
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: concern for teams to have.

1164
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, And look, sometimes it all works out, you know,

1165
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 7: but it's a legitimate concern, you know, even as a tackler,

1166
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 7: because you know, will he be one of those guys

1167
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 7: that hey in pology at work? But in the NFL

1168
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 7: with bigger players, does he become a drag down guy

1169
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 7: that ends up giving up three, four or five extra

1170
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 7: yards because you know, he has to drag guys down

1171
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 7: as opposed to truly tackle him. So that's a very

1172
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: legitimate question, and I think that'll be discussed. But he's

1173
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 7: a fun guy to watch. He's a really good player.

1174
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 7: It's just he's incredible for safety in today's NFL.

1175
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: All right, I gotta we gotta reset this conversation before

1176
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: we get down. We've got a whole list of safeties

1177
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about. But let me remind I

1178
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: got to remind all of us where we were at

1179
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: this time twelve months ago, because last year we were

1180
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: talking about the other side of the ball of wide receiver.

1181
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: He had Marvin Harrison, my league neighbors, Roma Dunza, Brian

1182
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: Thomas Junior. Then you got down to the you know,

1183
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: all that stuff would happened with Xavier Worthy and Xavier

1184
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: Legat and then the Bills take key on Coleman after

1185
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: trading down. Where are these safety is going to fall

1186
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: in this draft board? Because are the Bills? Are the

1187
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: Bills hadn't have a chance at nick Emon worry at thirty.

1188
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: There's no way not.

1189
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 7: To my way of thinking. Again, you know, this is

1190
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 7: going to be an eye draft step in my view,

1191
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 7: because you know, you don't have the four or five

1192
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 7: quarterbacks at the top of the draft. You probably don't

1193
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 7: have those you know, four or five receivers that everybody's

1194
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 7: excited about wide receivers. So I think this is a

1195
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 7: really hard draft to mock. I don't do that anyway,

1196
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 7: but I think it's a really hard draft to do

1197
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 7: that with. I think you'll see guys taken in the

1198
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 7: first round that some people think are the fiftieth best prospect.

1199
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 7: I think you'll see guys taking it fifty that a

1200
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 7: lot of people said, Oh, this guy's a top twenty

1201
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 7: five player. So that's hard to know. I'd be very

1202
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 7: surprised if Eminori was there at thirty, but you know

1203
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 7: who knows.

1204
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, another guy, Xavier Watts from Notre Dame, recruited as

1205
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, plays linebacker, then transitions to safety. How

1206
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: much do you believe that helps him in a league

1207
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: that's moving to more three safety sub packages.

1208
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, Wats is a really interesting guy. I mean,

1209
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 7: he schemed diverse because he can line up on the

1210
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 7: back end, he can play the post, he can play

1211
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 7: in two high structures, he can play at the second

1212
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 7: level with his background, and he played in the slot

1213
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 7: quite a bit and matched up to both tight ends

1214
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 7: and wide receivers. You know what's funny, As I've mentioned

1215
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 7: probably before, when I watch players, I don't necessarily spend

1216
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 7: twenty minutes after I finished watching thinking who they remind

1217
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 7: me of. Sometimes a guy just pops into my head,

1218
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 7: and I think stylistically, oh, they remind me of this

1219
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 7: guy and the guy that Watts kind of reminded me of.

1220
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 7: And this is when guy's come out of college, by

1221
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 7: the way, not once they were in their NFL career.

1222
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 7: The guy he kind of reminded me of, Brownie was

1223
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 7: Xavier McKinney when he came out of Alabama because McKinney

1224
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 7: plaid safety and then he played slot. And I just

1225
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 7: think Watts, to me, is a really good player. I

1226
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 7: think he's I could make an argument, and like I said,

1227
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 7: reasonable people can disagree. Maybe Chris Trapassa would disagree, but

1228
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 7: I kind of like Wats more than I like Starks.

1229
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 7: But that's just me.

1230
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's a better physical build for sure, there's more versatility,

1231
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: So I would understand why you would feel that way.

1232
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,479
Speaker 1: Here's this, here's a bonus question. This is a guy

1233
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: that's a former receiver, so he has good hands. He

1234
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: has thirteen interceptions in his last two seasons at Notre Dame.

1235
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: From the film you saw how many did he luck

1236
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: into and how many were him anticipating and making the

1237
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: right reads and coming up with takeaways.

1238
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 7: I would say it's probably you know, it's a bit

1239
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 7: of both. I mean, the thing that I love, and

1240
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 7: this is just an aside, is when people say things

1241
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 7: like he's always around the ball because I'm not sure

1242
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 7: where else he supposed to be. I mean, you know,

1243
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 7: if he's playing post safety and the quarterback overthrows the

1244
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 7: receiver and he hits them, you know, right in the zero,

1245
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 7: that's his number. You know, where is he supposed to

1246
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 7: be in the parking lot? Where is he supposed to

1247
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 7: be he's playing post safety and the ball's overthrown, you know. So,

1248
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 7: But I'd say he also has interceptions where he makes

1249
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 7: the play and he's got really good hands. That's the thing.

1250
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 7: I mean, he's got really good hands. The one we're

1251
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 7: looking at right now is an example where he played

1252
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 7: the coverage really really well and therefore was in perfect

1253
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 7: position to intercept the ball that, of course the quarterback

1254
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 7: never should have thrown, but he was in perfect position

1255
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 7: to do so. So I really like this player. To me,

1256
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 7: he's going to be an as sending player because he

1257
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 7: hasn't played a ton of safety. He's still learning how

1258
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 7: to play the position. I think he's he's physically put together.

1259
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 7: I wouldn't call him an explosive athlete. But how many

1260
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 7: safeties are really twitchy, sudden explosive athletes. There's not that

1261
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 7: many who are like that.

1262
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: And I'll say this though, when they I don't know

1263
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: how well he tested physically at the combine.

1264
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't run there. He got a four

1265
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: or five program.

1266
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 3: He's just okay, an okay athlete. But for me, and

1267
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about this because it's

1268
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: hard to quantify. So a lot of guys don't want

1269
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: to evaluate this because you don't know what kind of

1270
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: you got to.

1271
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: It's the safety spot is a neck up position.

1272
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: I agree, you play it between your ears, and so

1273
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: the athleticism or lack thereof isn't not as big a

1274
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: red flag for that spot as it is, say a corner.

1275
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 7: And I would say, Steve, and again I've had this conversation.

1276
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 7: You know, everybody has this conversation at this time of year,

1277
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 7: once we start getting forty times from players. I think

1278
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 7: that when you watch his tape, and obviously I watched

1279
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 7: him last summer because in twenty twenty three he led

1280
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 7: the nation in interceptions, and then of course I watched

1281
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 7: him this year from his twenty twenty four tape Notre

1282
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 7: Dame having the great year, being in the National Championship game.

1283
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 7: And I think people understand this, but he plays faster

1284
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 7: than his time speed, and that could be a function

1285
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 7: just of what you said, Steve, that he sees things quickly.

1286
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 7: He's got a really quick trigger and the play recognition

1287
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 7: is really good. He looks like a more explosive athlete

1288
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 7: on tape than his forty time would indicate.

1289
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: All right, so let's go to Penn State here. Kevin

1290
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: Winston unfortunately suffers the injury torn ACL in September, but

1291
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: was a highly touted prospect. And you know, here's a

1292
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: guy that gets his last season before the NFL cuts short.

1293
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: What do you think of his body of work? I

1294
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: know the word on him is he's a pretty instinctive player.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I watched him last summer, thankfully, so fortunately my

1296
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 7: work was done on him because he played I think

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01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 7: a game in a quarter this year. He's a big kid,

1298
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 7: six one and a half two fifteen. I think his

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01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 7: tape shows from last year a higher level safety prospect.

1300
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 7: I mean, this guy can play on the back end,

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 7: he can play a post safety, he can play in

1302
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 7: a two shell, structure. He can play in the box.

1303
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 7: He can match up man to man on tight ends,

1304
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 7: whether they are attached or detached. There were times he

1305
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 7: matched up on wide receivers. I think he's a rangy mover.

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01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 7: He's got great length, great play speed. He looked really

1307
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 7: fast and furious on tape. I mean, does he have

1308
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 7: is there a little tightness in his hips because he's

1309
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 7: high cutting, long leged a little bit? But that didn't

1310
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 7: bother me to the point where I thought it would

1311
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 7: be a problem. I mean, this guy's long and athletic.

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01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 7: You know. I think he's a really really good prospect.

1313
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: What about his teammate, Jalen Reed, You know, he got

1314
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: he had. He got a lot more playing time this

1315
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: year because Winston was off the field and had to

1316
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: carry more of the load on the back end. He's

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: I was watching him. He's a feisty player, Yeah.

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 7: He's he was. Actually I wouldn't put him in the category,

1319
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 7: you know, of the of the top guys, but he

1320
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 7: was a very fun player to watch. The first thing

1321
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 7: you noticed, Brownie, and you probably noticed it, is how

1322
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 7: versatilely is, how many positions they lined him up in,

1323
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 7: and and to me, I think that tells you that

1324
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 7: he's a smart player, because you guys know, there's no

1325
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 7: coach who is going to line up a guy in

1326
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 7: three or four different positions if they don't trust him

1327
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 7: to be able to do that. So to me, that

1328
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 7: says that this guy is a pretty smart player who's

1329
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 7: capable of playing on all three levels of the defense

1330
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 7: and do his job. He's another guy that has a

1331
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 7: very quick trigger. He plays with urgency, he plays with aggression.

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01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 7: Not a great athlete, You wouldn't call him a great athlete,

1333
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 7: but I think that And I always hate to use

1334
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 7: the word instinctive because it means a lot of different

1335
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 7: things to a lot of different people. But I think

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01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 7: he sort of sees things well. He's really aggressive playing

1337
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 7: downhill in the run game. I think that, you know,

1338
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 7: on the back end, I think he's fluid enough. I

1339
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 7: think he can transition and change direction. I like this

1340
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 7: kid a lot. You know one player he kind of

1341
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 7: reminded me of to some degree, And I think this

1342
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 7: guy's have been a really good player. Is He kind

1343
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 7: of reminded me of Justin Reid who was with the Chiefs.

1344
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 7: And I know he just signed somewhere else. I can't

1345
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 7: remember where. But he kind of reminded me of Justin Reid,

1346
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 7: because Jalen Reid is pretty big. He's almost six feet

1347
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 7: and two eleven and by the way, for whatever it means,

1348
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 7: he ran a four four nine, which I think was

1349
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 7: better than a lot of people thought he would run.

1350
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that weight and that size, he's he's the guy.

1351
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: The physicality and the physical specimen he won. I'm can't

1352
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 3: be any taller and bigger. Yeah, sure, but he's plenty

1353
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: heavy enough and runs fast enough and brings enough mass

1354
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: to the run game that he could. You could play

1355
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: him up to the line of scrimmage in the box.

1356
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: And you're right.

1357
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: I think it says a lot when you watch the

1358
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 3: film and you got to look before every snap, is

1359
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 3: it worries he lining up?

1360
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: Now? Wait?

1361
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 7: Is he? Yeah? I hate those guys, Steve, because they

1362
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 7: got to find them before everything.

1363
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, the tape longer to watch the tape. You

1364
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: run the play and then you gotta go, Okay, there

1365
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: he is. You gotta follow him back.

1366
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 7: You run the play and it's like, oh, there he is,

1367
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 7: and then you got to go back and watch it

1368
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 7: four times.

1369
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all right? What about the Ohio State prospect

1370
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: Lathan Ransom. You know that there's so much talent on

1371
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: that Ohio State roster and it's kind of hard to

1372
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: make your mark sometimes.

1373
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 7: You know what those are the kinds of teams when

1374
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 7: it gets to the draft Brownie that I freaking hate

1375
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 7: because I have to watch their tape like three four

1376
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 7: times because you can't watch eight guys at one time

1377
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 7: or nine guys. You can't even watch it in two times.

1378
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 7: So you know those teams. But Ransom is a fascinating

1379
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 7: guy because this guy is a downhill striker. I mean,

1380
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 7: this guy plays downhill. There's not a lot of mystery

1381
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 7: to his game. I mean he is. What he was

1382
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 7: asked to do at Ohio State was clearly defined. So

1383
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 7: now the question is is he sort of a role

1384
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 7: in scheme specific player as you project and transition him

1385
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 7: to the next level. He may be the most aggressive

1386
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 7: downhill run defender in this safety draft class. I mean

1387
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 7: he's got a quick trigger, he tackles with force in

1388
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 7: the box. He's a physical striker, he can flow and

1389
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 7: track down runners. I've learned a lot about quarters, cover

1390
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 7: four and what they ask their safeties to do in

1391
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 7: the run game. And he strikes me as a cover

1392
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 7: for safety. You know, he's not a back end safety.

1393
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 7: He's not a guy you'd play in the post. I mean,

1394
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 7: obviously nobody does the same thing on every play. So

1395
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 7: could he play in the post a couple of times, sure,

1396
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 7: But that's not what he is. You know, there's and

1397
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 7: what he brings to a defense is a physical mentality

1398
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 7: and swagger and you know every defensive coordinator loves that.

1399
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 7: But you have to understand what he is and what

1400
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 7: he isn't. But what he is he's very very good at.

1401
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked how they would often deploy him as

1402
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,520
Speaker 1: like a delayed blitzer.

1403
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1404
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, whether whether he was spying or whether

1405
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,919
Speaker 1: it's just like all right, hang out, watch the quarterback.

1406
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: You now go get him when he you know, when

1407
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: they're to desuded, when the you know when you can trigger,

1408
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: and man, when he triggers, you see it.

1409
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 7: Yeah and yeah, unlike Jalen Reid, who he has to

1410
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 7: how to find. Sometimes you knew where he was and

1411
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 7: as soon as the play started, he was like, oh

1412
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 7: there's ransom because he just played fast. He just triggered,

1413
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 7: he saw it and he was gone.

1414
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely plays with edge, for sure. So you know,

1415
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: the safety class, I don't think it's getting as much

1416
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: pub as maybe some of the other positions, but I

1417
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: think you could find some guys here that can help you.

1418
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, his latest Round three, maybe even early day three.

1419
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 7: Yes, Sanker is an interesting guy too for Virginia. He's

1420
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 7: a big kid. You know, He's another guy that played

1421
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,919
Speaker 7: in multiple spots in the context of their defense.

1422
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

1423
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he's a pretty good prospect as well.

1424
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: I like a little bit too.

1425
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 7: What's that.

1426
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: I like the Navy kid a little bit too, the

1427
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: lane kid.

1428
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1429
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 7: I haven't seen him, so I can't speak to him.

1430
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 7: So you're ahead of me, the NAT.

1431
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: Day three player, But I liked him.

1432
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know the thing, and I love what Steve

1433
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 7: said because he's so right. I mean, the safety position

1434
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 7: so much is above the neck. And you know, I think,

1435
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 7: you know, sure, do you always want a great athlete?

1436
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 7: I mean we all know that, you know. I remember

1437
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 7: a scout telling me years and years ago when I

1438
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 7: was first going to the combine, you know, and this

1439
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 7: goes back to probably the late nineties when I first

1440
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 7: started going to the scouting combine and he was joking around,

1441
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 7: but it just stuck me, and he had that great

1442
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 7: Southern accent. He said, you know you always would prefer

1443
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 7: big and fast and small and slow. You know, I mean,

1444
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 7: you always want a great athlete, but sometimes you could

1445
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 7: be a great say without being a great athlete.

1446
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Truer words have never been spoken. Greg. Thanks as always.

1447
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: We will catch up with you next week with the

1448
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: latest position group t b D. We'll keep everybody guessing,

1449
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: including ourselves, so we know you're watching enough tape to

1450
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: be caught up on it. So we're not worried about you.

1451
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: We're more worried about us.

1452
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 7: You. I think, I think I'll be okay with whatever

1453
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 7: it list you send me.

1454
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you will. Yeah, we're more worried about

1455
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: us than we are you, so don't must not you. Yeah,

1456
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,879
Speaker 1: we'll catch you next week. Thanks, Thanks Greg, Gray.

1457
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 7: Guys appreciate it. Great weekend. Thank you.

1458
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: All right. That's Greg co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films,

1459
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: joining us as he does every week leading up to

1460
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: the draft. As we go position by position, we may

1461
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: finally have to flip over to the offensive side of

1462
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: the ball here and whether or not we got it.

1463
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: He's here for two more Saturdays may have to do

1464
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: like running back, wide receiver. Let's go next week.

1465
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: Let's let's think about wide out. Yeah yeah, I mean that.

1466
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: Or you're plowing through that position group, right we last week?

1467
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: Last week we did corners, so we've kind of hit it.

1468
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: We hit edge rusher at the combine with Greg, then

1469
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: we did defensive tackles, then we did corners, and then

1470
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: we did safety. So let's kind of overdue for a.

1471
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: Wide next Let's do wideout next week.

1472
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: Side it's a good running back group too, let's get

1473
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: to that all.

1474
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 3: Sell Jay Harris on our wide out conversation, I don't You.

1475
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: Don't really have to sell him on much of anything.

1476
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm I think the safety group goes a little deeper

1477
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: than some people are saying. I watched Jalen Reid not

1478
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: thinking much. You know, I didn't go in with high

1479
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: expectations because Kevin Winston's been getting all the pub there

1480
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: the other safety that's his teammate, even though he had

1481
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: an ACL injury in September. And I like Jalen Reid

1482
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: a lot. Guy plays with an edge and he does

1483
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things, and he's a three year starter.

1484
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: And I think you could get him in like round three,

1485
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: maybe even round four, depending on how the run on

1486
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: safety goes. Like there's some interesting, interesting prospects at the

1487
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:56,879
Speaker 1: safety position.

1488
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's gonna be. But I'm kind of that

1489
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: spot again where you know you're a victim of your

1490
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: own success if you're the Bills organization picking thirtieth and

1491
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 3: like last i reset the conversation in the middle of

1492
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: it because we were talking about these safeties. It reminded

1493
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: me so much, and this list reminds me so much

1494
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: of what we were going through with the wide receiver

1495
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: last year. We all wanted that guy, and you knew

1496
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 3: that Marvin Harrison Junior is going to be off the

1497
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 3: board in Malik Neighbors in Roma doonsday. But then he

1498
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: got down to Brian Thomas Junior and then it's like, well,

1499
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: maybe we might have a shot at him at twenty

1500
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 3: eight or whatever it was we had.

1501
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: And then you didn't, and you didn't because he went

1502
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,480
Speaker 1: one and twenty two I think right after that Jacksonville.

1503
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: Right after that the run was on.

1504
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh and it went it went Xavier Worthy because we

1505
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 3: traded with the Chiefs Xavier Worthy two picks later, Ricky

1506
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: Pearsol next pick, xavierly Get, next pick, Keon Coleman, next pick,

1507
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: Lad McConkey. Two picks later, Jalen Polk. I mean it

1508
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 3: was like that they called him runs for a reason.

1509
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: They're like Sam Bam Bam b Five out of eight

1510
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,959
Speaker 3: picks were wide outs. Yeah, and so this safety stuff

1511
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 3: reminds me of that. Now, safety is not wide receiver,

1512
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 3: and it's not corner no or quarterback, but it's a

1513
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: position that you know, Bill's fans as much as anybody

1514
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 3: realized the importance of it, and from the high level

1515
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 3: we got with Poyer and Hide all those years.

1516
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting you mentioned Poyer because I see

1517
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of Jordan Poyer and Jalen Reed, the

1518
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 1: way he plays the edge, he plays with, the attitude

1519
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: he plays with. You could probably say the same thing

1520
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: about Leithan Ransom, but I think that Reid's game is

1521
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: more like Poyer's because he can come up in the box,

1522
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: be a little physical. You can use him as a

1523
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: blitzer and he can help you still on the back end,

1524
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 1: kind of like Poyer was. And let's not forget Poyer

1525
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: was a sixth round draft pick. Yeah, you know, so

1526
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: you get.

1527
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, when you get starts transposing this

1528
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: safety spot or any of these money spots that the

1529
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 3: Bills are thinking about with the dee tackled defensive and

1530
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 3: the edge rusher, you're looking at that. What happened with

1531
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 3: those wide receivers at the end of the first round

1532
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 3: last year, six out of ten picks between the last

1533
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 3: part of the first and the first part of the second,

1534
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: six out of ten picks were all the same position,

1535
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: wide out. And you could see that happening with the

1536
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 3: defensive line this year, right, because there's so many guys

1537
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 3: and you get a guy like that and you think, okay,

1538
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: let's time up for five years instead of four and

1539
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 3: get back into the first round ye or whatever position

1540
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 3: you pick, You're gonna see a run like that in

1541
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 3: a stretch of this draft where six out of the

1542
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 3: ten picks in any given moment are gonna be one spot,

1543
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 3: one position group. Because everybody wants the everybody needs them,

1544
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 3: everybody's got a kind of a similar feel for the position.

1545
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: And you know, we.

1546
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 3: Started talking about these safeties. Man, it's just made me

1547
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: feel so much like that White. There's so like Xavier

1548
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 3: Worthy and im Em and worry these guys. You just

1549
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 3: know you're not gonna get a shot at them.

1550
01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: Starks em and worry.

1551
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 3: But we're not gonna get shot at those guys Watts,

1552
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 3: even at thirty.

1553
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: Get a chance at Watts. I'm gonna get a shot

1554
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: at That's that's the thing. Picking at thirty.

1555
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 3: You don't get the really good guy at that position

1556
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: that you want.

1557
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 1: You gotta you kind of they might be able to

1558
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: at safety. I mean, you're not gonna get the blue chipper,

1559
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,959
Speaker 1: but I pick thirty like people aren't dying for safeties

1560
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: in round one. It's not a premium position. Even we're

1561
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: not no, but you were just saying, I don't think

1562
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: you can get it. You can get a good thirty

1563
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: for safety, Sure you can't, because everybody's worried about the corners,

1564
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: the pass rushers, the wide receivers, the left tackles, and.

1565
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 3: The guy like Hman Warriors there at thirty, and so's

1566
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant.

1567
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: Give me the big guy, give me the big guy.

1568
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but that and then there's a lot of

1569
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: mock drafts who have those two who have the bills

1570
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 3: picking ken Kenneth Grant even Warriors right behind him, I

1571
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: get it. You know, the guy's still on the board. Yeah,

1572
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 3: now that to me, I don't know.

1573
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: The reason I take the big guy is because I

1574
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: can get Jalen Reid in round three and be very

1575
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: very happy. Yeah, that's just me. I get it.

1576
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the thought process you gotta go through.

1577
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 3: It's a it's a thought problem, you know, it's a

1578
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 3: thought exercise.

1579
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: It's well, you gotta you gotta.

1580
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: Go through these scenarios and see.

1581
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: That's why it's inexact science break time for us here.

1582
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: We answer more of your questions in the mail bag,

1583
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: both on the phone lines at eight oh three oh

1584
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: five fifty and on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live.

1585
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: We'll get to those when we return here on One

1586
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1587
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1588
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on an obl Friday fan mail bag, and

1589
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: right back to the questions, this one from Henry Why

1590
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 1: aren't there more trades between teams player for player trade

1591
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: assets such as draft picks all over the place. Bills,

1592
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: for example, have a lot of offensive line and running

1593
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: back depth, could conceivably trade a James Cooker with David

1594
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: Edwards for a corner of defensive lineman then draft depth. Yeah,

1595
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: I get it. The problem is the Bills are looking

1596
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: for cheap labor right now. Yeah.

1597
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: The problem is also this, it's the economics of one

1598
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: guy's contract for another guy's contract and fitting them both

1599
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: into the cap.

1600
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: And the cap hits. If you have guaranteed money on them.

1601
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: It's all and plus you trade. You're trading them a

1602
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 3: guy on a three year, twenty million dollar contract and

1603
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 3: you've got seven million dollars a year for this guy,

1604
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: and you're getting back a guy.

1605
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: You're getting a guy.

1606
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 3: From them who's on the last year of a deal,

1607
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: and he's not going to debt, and you're gonna have

1608
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: to pay him big.

1609
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: Money dollars in dollars out right.

1610
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 3: It's the economics of it are the real hold up

1611
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 3: in my opinion.

1612
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: What you can look at, though, are players that are

1613
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: maybe in the last year of their contract and a

1614
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: player on another team in the last year their contract,

1615
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 1: and sometimes matches are found that way. I would agree

1616
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: with you that there is depth on Buffalo's offensive line

1617
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: to a great degree. Steve and I were just talking

1618
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: about this before the show. You know, you got four

1619
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 1: offensive tackles on your roster who can play in the league,

1620
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: who can start and probably start for ten or twelve teams.

1621
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: So a player like Ryan Vandermark if somebody inquires and

1622
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: you're willing to give the Bills a decent draft picker. Oh,

1623
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. Say in round three.

1624
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 3: You got vander Mark as your swing tackle, Tyland Grable

1625
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: who won the swing tackle job before he got injured,

1626
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: Deon Dawkins of course, Spencer Brown and Alec Anderson's listed

1627
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 3: as a tackle. That's five guys, so you have an

1628
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: Most teams just need two.

1629
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: Most teams are hoping for two. Yeah, just hoping for

1630
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think that's something to keep an eye on.

1631
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 3: The Bills literally have four guys that they plug in.

1632
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 3: Tyland Grable and Ryan Vandermark both have the chops to play,

1633
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: can start, Both have the chops to play, and they're

1634
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 3: behind Spencer Brown and Dion Dawkins. So yes, that's a

1635
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: possibility if you're if you're looking for, you know, possibility

1636
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 3: that the Bills might do something like that.

1637
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might happen that way. Jacob asks, would you

1638
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: rather trade up for the second or third best defensive

1639
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: tackle by giving up the thirtieth pick, a second round pick,

1640
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: and a fifth round pick, or keep those picks and

1641
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: potentially use all three of them on defensive tackle. Essentially

1642
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: go after one stud or fill an area of weakness

1643
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: with volume. I'd prefer volume, especially in a draft where

1644
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle position is considered to be strong, because

1645
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: I think you can make the argument that you need

1646
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: a three technique defensive tackle and a space eater one

1647
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: technique defensive tackle, and you can get both in this draft.

1648
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 1: So I'm going volume to answer that question.

1649
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 3: And if you use the rich Hill, you'd have to

1650
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 3: trade your fifty sixth pick and your sixty two pick

1651
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: to jump all well, not if you did through in

1652
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 3: the thirtieth, but the sixty two and the fifty six

1653
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 3: together would only get you to thirty two.

1654
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh if you so you could pick thirty and thirty two,

1655
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: then right, yeah, I don't know that you need to

1656
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: do that.

1657
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: But if you took the buff, if you took the

1658
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 3: one ninety six and the sixty two pick, or let's

1659
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: say say one ninety six and fifty six and trade

1660
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 3: it up, that gets you all the way to uh,

1661
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 3: guys that get you almost to sixteen between seventeen and sixteen,

1662
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: Arizona and Cincinnati thirty with pick thirty and pick fifty six.

1663
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go, If I want to do that, yeah,

1664
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm As we have said many times, this is being

1665
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: called a starter's draft. You can get a lot of

1666
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: starting caliber players in this draft. You just can't get

1667
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: a lot of superstars in this draft. Well, if that

1668
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: that's the case, why the hell am I trading up? Right?

1669
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with volume, especially in a year

1670
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: where the defensive tackle class is considered to be deep.

1671
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm not getting superstars, but I'm gonna get starters. Okay,

1672
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: give me a give me two of them. Yeah.

1673
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 3: I think the real key, and it's something that nobody

1674
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 3: can control. The real key is if you draft these guys,

1675
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 3: can you get seventeen games out of them?

1676
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Twenty games out of them? Can you know?

1677
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 3: Are you gonna get him in here and all of

1678
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: a sudden and Joey Bosa is what he has been?

1679
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: You get seven games out of him?

1680
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: You know?

1681
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: That's that's that's what crushes you.

1682
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 3: That's what happened last year. Carter comes in and you know,

1683
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: you get a couple of games out.

1684
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: Of him, and he's got five games out of him,

1685
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 1: and then he comes back and he's not the same guy.

1686
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: He's a healthy and act.

1687
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 3: The same thing with Keon Coleman. He goes in risk

1688
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: injury for him. Now he's had four games and he

1689
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: misses a month and he's not the same coming back.

1690
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: All of this happens. So that's the thing that you

1691
01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: can't get those guys.

1692
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 3: You don't know. I don't don't know how good key

1693
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 3: On Coleman is going to be. Yet it looked like

1694
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 3: for a minute he was going to start to spread

1695
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: his wings there in the after a month of the

1696
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 3: battle season, the Seattle game and he comes back all

1697
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: of a sudense like, oh, right, here we go, and

1698
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: then you know he gets hit in the Miami game

1699
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 3: and he's done.

1700
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah. From Circle the Wagons, they ask would

1701
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: the Bills draft a three technique defensive tackle like Derek

1702
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Harmon to play next to Ed Oliver. Wouldn't they want

1703
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: more of a one technique eventual replacement upgrade for Daikwon

1704
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: Jones in the future, or at least a player that

1705
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: can hold up lockers and penetrate when needed. I will

1706
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: tell you Derek Harmon can do both. At least in

1707
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: my opinion, he can. He is big enough, girthy enough

1708
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: at three twenty, and athletic enough where he could be

1709
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: at Oliver's backup or a one technique if you needed

1710
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: him to be.

1711
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: They will pick a guy that they think and I'll

1712
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 3: say this, whether it's one, a three tech or one technique,

1713
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: a nose guard or a defensive tackle that's on the

1714
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 3: undertake the guard. Yeah, they're gonna get the guy that

1715
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 3: they think makes the biggest difference, the better player of

1716
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: the two. Even if you get if it's a one

1717
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: or three, I don't think they care one way or

1718
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Speaker 3: the other. Yeah, because they're going to be able to

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01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 3: fill in the other spot if they really want one

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: with a they're gonna get the guy who plays the

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: best at whatever position he's playing. And they'll usually at

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 3: this point they'll get a guy that could do both.

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01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: But this goes back level. This goes back to my

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: volume conversation. Right, get a one technique, get a three technique,

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01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: get both yet, because you can do it in this

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01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 1: draft two of both.

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01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: Right, get a bunch of guys I don't have a

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01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: problem with that. Get come out of this with the

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: over unders should be two point five defensive linemen in

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01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: this draft.

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01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the overrunning edge and two defensive techs.

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01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 3: And the over under is also six point five defensive

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,480
Speaker 3: players versus offensive players. If they pick ten guys.

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01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll pick ten, but yeah, I get

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: your point. Connor asks Buffalo is on the clock at

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01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: pick thirty. Somehow, both Kenneth Grant and nicki Emn Warrior

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01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: are there. Who are you taking? I'm going with em

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: and Warrior. I just think his skill set is unmatched

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01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: and someone that would be a huge piece to solidifying

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01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: the back end of the defense. Yeah, this is the

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: great debate, right. We had it earlier this week when

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01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: we say do you do you prioritize pass rush or

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01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: do you prioritize coverage? Now, Emon Warri's versatility is appealing,

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: and you can make an argument. Look, I'm not gonna

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01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: be upset if they take Eman Warrey at thirty, but

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01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: I we need big people.

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01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: I won't be upset until after the draft's over and

1748
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: they didn't pick any defensive lineman. Well, yeah, well then

1749
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 3: I would be upsetset, But that I just put that

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01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: exact same I didn't read this from Connor and he

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01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 3: put the question. I just put the Brownie at the

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01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 3: end of the last segment. I get what happens if

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01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: Emon war is there at thirty and so's Kenneth Grant

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01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: that I put that exact thing out, and Brownie says,

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01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 3: they'm taking Kenneth Grant, give him a big guy, don't know,

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 3: And I'm with Brownie. I don't care which one they pick.

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: If both those guys are there, you're gonna get a

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 3: really good player. But the rest of the draft's going

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01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 3: to be important. If you take Eman Warry, the rest

1760
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 3: of the draft's going to be vitally important. I think

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01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 3: Eman warr is gonna be I think he's gonna be

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01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 3: an all pro level guy. I think he's that kind

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01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 3: of gift.

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01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: He's got that kind of gift. So all right, well,

1765
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 1: you can't know. I'm not gonna be upset. I like

1766
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: him and worry a lot, but we have been sorely

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01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: need and big players in the middle on the defensive front,

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01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: and we've been patching the hole with one year contracts

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01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: on free agents, whether it's Austin Johnson, Jordan Phillips, times one, two, three,

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01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: or you know somebody else even day Kwon Jones, who

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01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: was a nice pickup, but you know is a veteran

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01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: free agent signee. I want a long term investment in that.

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01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 3: Call to say this, I think him and Worry is

1774
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 3: a Day one starter. I don't know if Kenneth Grant is.

1775
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a fair argument, so we'll see. Yeah,

1776
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm happy with either one of those.

1777
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: I could easily be convinced otherwise, but.

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01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: And at this end of the draft season to say

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01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 3: and I will take either one of them at the

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01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 3: back end, at the other end of the draft, we

1781
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: better have, like we need three defensive linemen out of

1782
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 3: this thing, just to make sure we get at least

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01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 3: two or one or two.

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01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Break time for us. Here some final thoughts and questions

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01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: from the bl Friday fan mail bag. When we return

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Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live presented by a Lot of Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. A couple are more questions from

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01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: the mailbag here. On a Friday, Joey asked, how about

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01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: we do this keep our eight man rotation on the

1790
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: d line, get Williams on the field with Milano and

1791
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Bernard in a real four to three and move Tarren

1792
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: Johnson to safety with Bishop or rap then we can

1793
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: draft a true corner to play opposite Benford or sign

1794
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: a Sante Samuel Go Bills. I don't think you need

1795
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: to do all that for the Bills to draft a

1796
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: corner early. I think they're gonna do that anyway.

1797
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, grab a corner. I'm all about that corner defensive lineman.

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01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: You're gonna be able to get some defensive lineman deeper

1799
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 3: in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I get all that.

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01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 3: So you can take a corner hires, particularly if a

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01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 3: good one, a really good one, the one that's on

1803
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 3: hiring your board falls, particularly a toolsy guy that's big

1804
01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: and fast. Oh blah blah blah.

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01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think corner is an early round consideration already. Yes,

1806
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,919
Speaker 1: so I don't think any of that roster shufflings necessary.

1807
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: I think corner, defensive line, and safety are all in

1808
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 1: play on the first two days of the draft. Tiffany

1809
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 1: asks any chance of a draft day trade for an

1810
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: established wide receiver. Take internet rumors for what they are,

1811
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: but there has been speculation that Chris o'lave may be available. Yes,

1812
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: I've seen that. Maybe I don't see the bills taking

1813
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: on any more money at the receiver position. I think

1814
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: Joshua Palmer was their big ad at receiver. They also

1815
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: have an eight million dollar receiver on the roster as well,

1816
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: in Curtis Samuel. And let's not forget they're paying Khalil

1817
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: Shakir fifteen million a year now at receiver, So taking

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01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: on another receiver contract I think would be too much

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01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: investment at one position in their eyes.

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01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: And I also think at this point they are very

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01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 3: happy with the guys they have in the room right

1822
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 3: now on Samuel, Shakir, Palmer, really happy with and I

1823
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 3: think they're in the exact same spot they were last year.

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 3: They had a lot more faith in guys they knew

1825
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 3: about than we did and guys we hadn't heard about,

1826
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 3: like mac Hollins and the rest. And I would agree

1827
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 3: with him. I think I think this receiver room is it.

1828
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 3: Let's go with these guys. These guys are gonna be really,

1829
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 3: really good.

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01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: And the other danger is if you add somebody the

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01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: caliber of an Olave, you run the risk of stunting

1832
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: the growth of someone like Coleman who can't get on

1833
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: the field right or ye see what he isn't on

1834
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: the field as much. See what he can become, you know,

1835
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: and you might be pleasantly surprised. That's it for us.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend everybody. We'll catch you on Monday.

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Speaker 1: More draft talk coming your way. We'll see you then