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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you.

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Speaker 1: The Republican National Convention officially complete, absolute home run for

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Speaker 1: the RNC, for the Republican Party, for Donald Trump, well organized, unifying,

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Speaker 1: and now all of the focus moves back to Buck

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Speaker 1: Island and Joe Biden and the disunity that is on

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Speaker 1: the side of the Democrat Party. But I thought last night,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the first thirty or forty five minutes of

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Speaker 1: what I found to be a captivating beginning of his speech.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, I thought he could have cut off

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump a half hour of the speech and it

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Speaker 1: would have been as effective or even potentially more effective.

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Speaker 1: But I thought the first thirty or forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: which is when the vast majority of people on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast are awake and paying attention, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was an absolute home run for Donald Trump. And as

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Speaker 1: we sit here now on the Friday after the RNC,

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Speaker 1: it feels like Republicans have solidified their lead and now

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Speaker 1: Democrats are in scramble mode to figure out what they're

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Speaker 1: going to be capable of.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, and maybe it's just our age,

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Speaker 1: but Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt at the RNC,

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Speaker 1: to me, was one of the most incredibly iconic moments,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it personified for me what has become

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Speaker 1: true in this election cycle, which I think many of

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Speaker 1: you feel but hadn't quite crystallized until now. Trump has

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Speaker 1: become the cooler, younger, hipper candidate than anything the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are offering right now. And I thought some of I

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Speaker 1: understand some of you are not Hid Rock fans, and

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Speaker 1: maybe some of you didn't like Dana White, and maybe

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Speaker 1: you didn't like Hulk Hogan, but I'm telling you, if

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Speaker 1: you're in your twenties or thirties, you probably did. And

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a situation like this where Republicans have

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Speaker 1: come out this unified in the twenty first century. How

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Speaker 1: did you take sort of the whole four days? Now

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Speaker 1: as we can textualize and contemplate what happened here in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the RNC could have gone any better

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Speaker 1: on a political front. On the logistics side of things,

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Speaker 1: I think they did a phenomenal job. I think that

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Speaker 1: it was much more meaningful and honestly emotional than any

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Speaker 1: of us had anticipated. Because of what had happened to

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Speaker 1: President Trump? When you looked around last night, in the

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Speaker 1: first the first twenty or thirty minutes of the speech

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Speaker 1: was truly moving. I not somebody who feels a lot

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Speaker 1: of stirring emotions because of political speeches, and I was

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Speaker 1: watching it and just saying to myself, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's a reminder of what could have been. And you

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Speaker 1: looked around that crowd play and people were tearing up

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Speaker 1: just as Trump was describing what happened, and I just

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Speaker 1: think that there was I'll tell you this, so many

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Speaker 1: of our people, and one of the night one of

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Speaker 1: the nicest things for us is that we get to

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Speaker 1: see so many of our listeners, which is great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's only a small fraction of the overall listeners were

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Speaker 1: very blessed. But to just see our people and have

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Speaker 1: them want to talk to us and say they appreciate

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Speaker 1: the show and say that Rush would be proud, and

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Speaker 1: that always makes us feel really good. We had so

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Speaker 1: many of those people, so many of you saying that

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Speaker 1: to us who were there, but also going around and

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Speaker 1: seeing our media colleagues play. Everybody had this sense of

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Speaker 1: gratitude and destiny. That's what I would say gratitude for

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Speaker 1: the miracle of Donald Trump being Okay. I feel like

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Speaker 1: every day at that RNC you just had to think

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Speaker 1: to yourself, what would have happened, what could have what

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Speaker 1: almost did happen? And then the fact that it was

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Speaker 1: a true celebration. There was a lot of gratitude, a

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Speaker 1: lot of gratitude for that, and then the sense of

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Speaker 1: destiny just that this is now a United Republican Party

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Speaker 1: and a party that is already seeming to be looking

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Speaker 1: to the future for what can be accomplished, much more

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Speaker 1: so than it is bogged down in the trench warfare

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Speaker 1: of the election, so to speak. And so anyway, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was I thought it was really really special,

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Speaker 1: able to see everybody. And I just think that Trump's

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Speaker 1: speech last night it went beyond political clad, do you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just a stump speech.

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Speaker 1: It was a gut check moment for the country, and

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Speaker 1: it was stirring to the soul to hear Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: speak about what he faced and the perspective that he

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Speaker 1: has now on life and on his mission. So honestly,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was magnificent. I thought it was incredibly powerful.

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Speaker 1: And also Buck Island is alive and well today, so

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Speaker 1: everything is good, everybody, Everything is good right now?

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Speaker 2: You know Biden's team. Do you want to say it, Clay?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to say it everyone? Yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Oh Buck, Clay's gonna get the most expensive stake ever

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Speaker 1: because Biden's gone. How could you doubt me at this point? Guys,

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Speaker 1: they've dragged it out to this point. Think about this.

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Speaker 1: There's so much madness just in this basic idea that

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Speaker 2: Mix on July nineteenth of twenty twenty four. What do

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Speaker 2: you think, Clay? Huh?

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Speaker 1: I still think he's gone. And by the way, the

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Speaker 1: gambling odds are at roughly eighty percent. They got up

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Speaker 1: to ninety percent last night. But it's a mess. And

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Speaker 1: this was my concern was that Republicans, by having the convention,

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Speaker 1: Biden and Democrat incompetence and the lack of unity inside

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Speaker 1: headed into the weekend, Republicans have never been more unified.

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Speaker 1: Even Republicans who said I'll never vote for Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: as recently, like Utah's governor, as like ten days ago,

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Speaker 1: bond reflection. I am going to vote for Trump. There's

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Speaker 1: more unity than we've ever seen. And the story immediately

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Speaker 1: pivots back to Democrats. Now, look, I hope Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: done with COVID. That's the best thing that could happen

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Speaker 1: to Republicans. The more by Ayden is out there stumbling, bumbling,

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Speaker 1: fumbling around all over the country that every single day,

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Speaker 1: the more people look at this and say, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no way possible that I could ever go out and

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Speaker 1: vote for Joe Biden as president. And I hope Buck

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Speaker 1: I hope you have an impregnable position, because if he's

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Speaker 1: the nominee, buying you a stake will be the most

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Speaker 1: enjoyable steak that I have ever bought, because I do

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Speaker 1: not see any way possible that Biden will be elected

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Speaker 1: president in twenty twenty four. Now, when I say that,

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Speaker 1: all of you go vote. I want all of you

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Speaker 1: bank your ballots. I want all that to happen. So

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Speaker 1: don't mistake what I'm saying by looking at the overall

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Speaker 1: landscape as encouraging you not to be steadfast in your voting.

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Speaker 2: But are you with me?

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Speaker 1: I just I don't see any way, sort of sadly,

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Speaker 1: and we got to protect him, Donald Trump getting killed

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden could end up winning this election. I'm

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Speaker 1: not as sanguine as you are about our prospects, just

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Speaker 1: because I think that when you're talking about such a

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Speaker 1: these numbers and we say, oh my gosh, he's up,

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Speaker 1: you know, seven percent or five percent in some of

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Speaker 2: We're still looking at now, tens.

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Speaker 1: Of thousands of voteses not that much. It's not that big,

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Speaker 1: I think through the lens of the poll, if you

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think they're not accurate. Then you're

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Speaker 1: still within strike striking discs and Democrats, Clay, look at

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Speaker 1: the dirty tricks they've been willing to pull up to

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Speaker 1: this point. Nothing is off the table for them when

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Speaker 1: it comes to power. Nothing is off the table when

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Speaker 1: it comes to stopping Donald Trump. And I think that

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't lull ourselves into the belief that they have

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Speaker 1: been they feel chastised about their lunacy when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Trump. I think because you know, the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: In one hundred years, there will be kids sitting in

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Speaker 1: classrooms looking at that photo of Donald Trump and saying,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Really so Democrats are a little stunned,

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Speaker 1: no question.

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Speaker 2: But uh, Clay, I mean, Joe Biden's president right now.

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Speaker 2: We can't ignore that. Joe Biden's president. Now, everybody, that's insane.

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Speaker 2: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: They turned the turnip into the president, so we can

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Speaker 1: to estimate them. I think where we're headed is that

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Speaker 1: you have said and I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: truth to it. They can't force Biden out. I get it.

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Speaker 1: It makes total sense. Hey, we can't actually force him out.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that can be done, campaign memo out that

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Speaker 1: Biden's in the race. I wonder whether they might get

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Speaker 1: so desperate Buck that they say we're going to twenty

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Speaker 1: humiliation they could actually control. They could basically force him

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Speaker 1: that's their trunk card, so to speak. You're familiar. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's one of the one of the most well

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Speaker 1: known ones. The parable of the scorpion of the frog,

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Speaker 1: because he's their guy. He's the only one right now

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Speaker 1: that makes the choice of going from one side just

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Speaker 1: soever knows.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The frog is asked by the scorpion, take me across

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Speaker 1: the river, and the frog goes, no, you're gonna sting me,

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Speaker 1: And the scorpion goes I wouldn't do that because then

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Speaker 1: we'll both drown. And then the scorpion gets on the

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Speaker 1: and the scorpion in the middle of the river stings

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Speaker 1: the frog, and the frog the last thing he says

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Speaker 2: We're both gonna die. The scorpion says, it's in my nature.

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Speaker 2: That's what scorpions do.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats would be insane to do the twenty fifth amendment,

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Speaker 1: that would be the scorpion stinging the frog, because it

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Speaker 1: guarantees an election loss. Because then we haven't even gotten

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Speaker 1: to what are the Republicans gonna say about all this clay?

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Speaker 1: They're gonna say the Democrat Party is such a cluster,

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Speaker 1: such a mess, a catastrophe that they couldn't even agree

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Speaker 1: whether their own president is basically crazy, and so they

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Speaker 1: had to use the twenty fifth to men, here what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow your mind here with what they'll actually say.

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Speaker 1: They will say, this demonstrates why Kamala Harris should be president,

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Speaker 1: because she's willing to make the hardest possible decision, because

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Speaker 1: she loves her country more than she is uh than

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Speaker 1: she is willing to protect Joe Biden. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: that is the way they would spin this the media.

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Speaker 1: They would actually may work. Clay, I think that's I

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Speaker 1: think that's flimsy. It's like it's like saying kamal as

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Speaker 1: the borders are. They can say it, but don't make

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Speaker 1: it good. Well, but then she would get to run

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Speaker 1: as the income. But I'm not saying they would do it.

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Speaker 1: would argue historically that might have made sense because we were

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a fighting legit Nazis in the

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Speaker 1: World War War two, But that analogy could play. Let

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Speaker 1: me say two things here. I agree with you, although

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Speaker 1: in terms of Kamala, I think she might have better

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Speaker 1: appeal in New York City in Houston, in Atlanta, in

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Speaker 1: LA with some black voters than Joe Biden does. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy. The problem is, I think this

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Speaker 1: election is going to be decided quite clearly in Pennsylvania, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. And I think a lot of older, middle income,

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Speaker 1: lower middle income white swing voters like Joe Biden far

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Speaker 1: more than they like Kamala Harris. So it could be

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Speaker 1: the case that Kamala could be stronger. The problem is

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Speaker 1: she's stronger in a lot of pl places where Democrats

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Speaker 1: are either gonna win big or already lose, and she's

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Speaker 1: worse in those Midwest battleground states. That's correct. I totally

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Speaker 1: agree with that. I think the numbers all all support

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Speaker 1: that as we've seen them so far. And I've said

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Speaker 1: it before, Biden's eight years as Obama's VP had created

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Speaker 1: a bond with black voters and Joe Biden. And I've

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Speaker 1: been told this by friends and colleagues in the past

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Speaker 1: who were black Democrat voters themselves. So this is real.

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Speaker 1: There's a sense that Biden was Obama. Whether Obama and

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Speaker 1: Biden actually like each other or not is irrelevant. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about public perception, not the behind closed doors reality

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Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris I've said that's her. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: her main constituency is CNN executives. Her main constituency is

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Speaker 1: the editorial pages of the New York Times. It is

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Speaker 1: elite Democrat IVY or sub ivy league, you know, can census.

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Speaker 2: It is not everyday voters.

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Speaker 1: Which we saw this in the twenty twenty election and

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Speaker 1: the Democrat primary. So this is why, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the question is asked, well, are there any true believers yet,

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Speaker 1: if we had a Biden Stafford Clay sit down and

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Speaker 1: make the case to us that Biden is still a

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Speaker 1: better candidate than Kamala Harris, I'd be sitting there nodding

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Speaker 1: my head, with all the data, all the reasons why.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I think he's still been able to stay.

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Speaker 1: In I do think, by the way, you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: idea of Kamala Whitmer, I do think that if she

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Speaker 1: picked Shapiro in Pennsylvania, for instance, that might be enough

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Speaker 1: to win one of those states in the Midwest, if

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Speaker 1: she got the right running mate. And I think that's why, honestly,

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Speaker 1: that Trump's selection of Jade Vance and just parking him

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest is sort of a counter to that already,

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Speaker 1: even if that is their play, Yeah, it protects his

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Speaker 1: Midwest flank, if you will. I think that even with

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Speaker 1: a Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Let's I mean, say, Kamala Gretchen Whitmer,

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Speaker 1: which is I heard you know from sources yesterday that

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Speaker 1: this is what was about to break. It didn't break,

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Speaker 1: but it could still a Kamala Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Would

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Speaker 1: they win Michigan. Yes, I actually think they might be

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Speaker 1: able to. I think Michigan goes Democrat. Oh but I

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Speaker 1: think I think Virginia gets really interesting for Republicans. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Minnesota. I think there are a number of

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Speaker 1: my gosh, we're hemorrhaging support in because older white working

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Speaker 1: class voters and older black voters still like Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: more than they like Kamala and Greshen Winmer. We come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred two eight

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Speaker 1: get to your calls.

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Speaker 2: Here. We are live on Friday. I appreciate you being with.

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Speaker 1: Us and we should talk to our friend.

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Speaker 2: I just lost it. There we go, Craig in Corpus Christy, Texas.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Craig, Hey, y'all, I just want to let us know

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Speaker 5: I just washed up on Buck Island. I'm sitting here

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Speaker 5: drinking a Pina Clotta with Ginger and Marry Am. I'm

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Speaker 5: having a blast, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And you got the professor there. If you need to

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Speaker 1: make a radio out of some coconuts, you're good to go.

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Speaker 1: Buck Island. Craig is where it's at. I think you

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Speaker 1: told our guys that you agree. Who wants to step

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Speaker 1: in and go up against Trump?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I mean, who really wants to be up against the

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Speaker 1: Trump train at full steam, full throttle in a way

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Speaker 1: we've never even seen it before.

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Speaker 5: That's correct. The Democrats and the Biden administration, they're worthless

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Speaker 5: agenda have taken their party right after the edge of

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Speaker 5: the Grand Canyon. Might was just felmble and louise it

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Speaker 5: just right off the edge and just crash and burn

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Speaker 5: and let it go where it goes.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us, sir.

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Speaker 1: And look if welcome to Buck Island, and if we

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Speaker 1: get hit by an asteroid on Sunday, you know, life's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't tell you things. Things could happen, you know,

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Speaker 1: but right now it's looking for here. Here's a good

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Speaker 1: question for you, for the denizens of Buck Island, the diehards,

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Speaker 1: the batting down the hatches, residents who are who are

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Speaker 1: still there? When do you think is the final day

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Speaker 1: where the coups against Biden basically slam up against him

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Speaker 1: and there is is it official.

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Speaker 2: Nomination or do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean, because I guess once the ballots start getting printed,

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Speaker 1: if you.

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Speaker 2: Can make it three more weeks.

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Speaker 5: Ish.

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Speaker 1: I know, right now is the tempest, But every time

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Speaker 1: we think, oh this is over, there's a new sort

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Speaker 1: of coup attempt that rises up. This is the most

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Speaker 1: successful so far, I would say, but it hasn't been enough.

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Speaker 1: What's what is amazing here is they've basically gone forward. Right,

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Speaker 1: Let's think that. Let's assume that Biden is the CEO

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Speaker 1: of a company. Some of the underlings in the company

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Speaker 1: and some of the PR people have put out a

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Speaker 1: statement CEO agrees to resign, but the CEO hasn't agreed

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Speaker 1: to resign. So the CEO looks at them and says,

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Speaker 1: I haven't agreed to resign, and they say, well, get

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Speaker 1: that's what the stock price is dropping, Clay. The stock

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Speaker 1: price is dropping because everyone's excess, so you better go

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Speaker 1: now while's dropping. And he looks at them and says,

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Speaker 1: but I'm the best one to turn this around, and

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Speaker 1: you can't make me. They have tried to create the perception,

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Speaker 1: so the reality of a Biden, you know, step down

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Speaker 1: whatever you know from the ticket, possibly a resignation will follow.

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Speaker 2: And they have failed.

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Speaker 1: This is not a coordinated one hundred percent We can

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Speaker 1: all be sure This is not a coordinated thing with

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Speaker 1: Democrats where they've all agreed for months.

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Speaker 2: Oh Biden's going to drop out late July. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: No way, yeah, no, how let's go take a call

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Speaker 1: here as well as Sondra in Grand Junction, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: You got a question for us.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I was wondering, if Biden resigns now rather than

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Speaker 6: fill out his term, can he still pardon Hunter before

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Speaker 6: he goes or does he have to say, go to

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Speaker 6: an open convention or whatever fills out his term so

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Speaker 6: he can pardon.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. Center.

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Speaker 1: My belief here, Clay, let me know if you disagree,

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Speaker 1: is that he if he were to resign, he would

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Speaker 1: partner commute Hunter before the resignation would go into effect,

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Speaker 1: because at that point, what does he care?

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Speaker 2: And then he would and then he would resign. One

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Speaker 2: hundred percent agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think we can get into I had such a

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Speaker 1: good discussion yesterday with a bunch of different people, and

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Speaker 1: you and I kind of talked about it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It is so interesting if Biden is not going to run,

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Speaker 1: what Democrats are opening themselves up to is if Biden

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Speaker 1: says I can't run you know what, I'm too old.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I'm stepping out of the race. The immediate

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Speaker 1: follow up question is if he can't run, how in

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Speaker 1: the world can he be president for the next six months.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what I've been having hammering this all along.

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Speaker 1: If you're not of sal mine to be president in January,

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Speaker 1: which is what he would be admitting, how.

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Speaker 2: The heck are you of sound mind to be president today?

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Speaker 1: Someone explains, That's why I think the twenty fifth Amendment

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Speaker 1: angle to me, the compromise is, you say I'm stepping

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Speaker 1: down in January?

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Speaker 2: Will it allow that to happen?

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Speaker 1: Because I think the ultimate indignity here is actually not

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Speaker 1: for Biden losing in twenty twenty four. I think it

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Speaker 1: is being forced to leave the White House before his

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Speaker 1: term is done Nixon style, except being forced to leave

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Speaker 1: because Joe Biden got knocked out by Donald Trump, the

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Speaker 1: guy that he thinks is such an existential threat to democracy.

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Speaker 1: If he says he's not running, the columns are already

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Speaker 1: written where they will say, Oh, he's George Washington. He's

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Speaker 1: the greatest, most selfless leader in the history of this nation. Right,

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Speaker 1: I can write for you what all of the Democrat

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Speaker 1: propagandist will say what morning Joe will be begin his

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Speaker 1: show with it's self evident. I don't think that Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden or Jill Biden will allow their father to be humiliated.

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Speaker 1: Where you have a throw up the peace sign as

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Speaker 1: you get on the helicopter on the White House lawn,

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Speaker 1: look like what occurred for Nixon. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the bat in the middle ground here, John

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Speaker 1: and Kalamazoo, Michigan, Michigan. What have you got first, John, Hi.

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Speaker 6: Guys, enjoy the show.

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Speaker 7: Hey, KEEMC Dennison of Buck Island as well. And yeah,

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Speaker 7: we've a bit of a hurricane here, and all all

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Speaker 7: Clay's losers are flying over in Coast Guard helicopters and

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Speaker 7: they lived through their binoculars.

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Speaker 5: And what do they see.

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Speaker 7: They see Bucking eye on the beach, flipping birds, a

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Speaker 7: fat him.

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Speaker 1: John, I love you, welcome to Buck Islander. Rather thank

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Speaker 1: you for being on Buck Island the whole time. Here's

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Speaker 1: you're John and everybody else on Buck Island. I fear

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Speaker 1: that you're soon going to be spelling out sos and coconuts.

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Speaker 2: And I want all of you.

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Speaker 1: I want all of you to not let the ships

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Speaker 1: leave and wave at them and be like, everything's fine here,

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Speaker 1: those of us in the sky above flying. We don't

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Speaker 1: want to have to look for the coconut signals on

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Speaker 1: the beach. And I feel like coconut season, a signal

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Speaker 1: on the beach, season is here. When you were a

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Speaker 1: young guy, Ginger and Marianne Clay, who is the best,

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Speaker 1: I liked Ginger, but now that.

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Speaker 2: I think I were more of a Maryanne person, I

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Speaker 2: like the redhead. Back in the day,