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This is pretty similar to what 41 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: happened with the Lakers in two thousand nineteen with Kawhi Leonard. 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: Kauai made them wait a little while they had time 43 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: to cultivate a backup plan, and then they executed that 44 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: backup plan when they didn't get Kauai. Pretty similar to 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: what happened with Kyrie this summer, albeit with trades as 46 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: opposed to traditional free agent signings. Well, that first deal 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: went down last night, or at least was intellectually agreed 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: upon last night. It was consummated this morning. But Stanley 49 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Johnson and Taylor Horton Tucker are going to the Utah 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Jazz and Patrick Beverley is coming back to the Los 51 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers. At first, I didn't really like the trade 52 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: when I first saw it come down last night. I'm 53 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: very high on Stanley Johnson, not just as who he 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: is as a basketball player in a vacuum, but with 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: this particular Lakers team that is so thin on the wing, 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I viewed him as very valuable. So initially I wasn't 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: super high on the deal, but thankfully you know it's funny. 58 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: I knew I needed a couple of hours to really 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: digest all of the different elements of the trade the 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: players involved. The players of the Lakers signed this summer 61 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: to potentially help that situation how it impacts next summer. 62 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: The fit with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. I knew 63 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I needed to take a lot of time, and it 64 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: was I was having a date night with my wife, 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: so I knew I'd get in huge trouble if I 66 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: just dropped everything that we were doing and got on 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: my computer for a while. So I just put my 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: phone down, put it on do not Disturb, and I 69 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: was like, I will get to this in the morning. 70 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: And then this morning I dove into it, and honestly, 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm a lot higher on the deal than I was 72 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: last night, and I will explain why during the show today. 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: The way I want to do this is I want 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: to get into each of the players to talk about 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: their strengths and weaknesses specifically so that we can understand 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: the value exchange that is taking place in this trade. 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Leakers front office and 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: what this kind of indicates from them in their trajectory 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: over the last few years, because I think that's interesting. 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this year's Lakers team and 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: the identity that is starting to take shape with this 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley deal, as well as the deal that I 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: expect to follow shortly thereafter. And then, last but not least, 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna briefly touch on the chet Home Grin injury 85 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: which is going to keep him out for the season. 86 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: You guys know the deal. Subscribe to the Volumes YouTube channels. 87 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: You don't miss any more of our videos. Follow me 88 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Underscore Jason Lts, you don't miss any 89 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: show announcements. And last but not least, if you miss 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: one of these shows and you can't get over to 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: YouTube to finish it, don't forget that we release them 92 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: in audio form wherever you get your podcasts. Under Hoops tonight, 93 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: all right, let's start with Patrick Beverley. He's not my 94 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: favorite guy, not even having to do with basketball, just 95 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: as a guy. The the whole loud mouth concept is 96 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: not is not my favorite type of personality. Pushing Chris 97 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: Paul in the back after losing a basketball game, the 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: way he's behaved on first take, being like outwardly aggressively 99 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: disrespectful to people. He's gotta like. He's got dozens of 100 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: of one liners and interviews and press conferences and show 101 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: appearances and stuff where he I think, in my opinion, 102 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: is as crossed the line in terms of respect to 103 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: to his peers around the league. That's just my opinion 104 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: on who he is as a guy. That's separate from 105 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: who he is as a basketball player. Patrick Beverley is 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: a very good basketball player, and he and for all 107 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: of the attitude things I said, he's not a mal content. 108 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: He rex that behavior outside of the locker room, which 109 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: is a good thing. He doesn't beef with teammates, so 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: his behavior is not going to negatively affect the Lakers 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: in my opinion. The one thing I will say, though, 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: is the beef that exists between Patrick Beverley and Russ 113 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: makes it way more likely that Russell Westbrook will be traded. Obviously, 114 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley is the one that injured Russell Westbrook's knee, 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: and then Russo Westbrook had comments basically undercutting Patrick beverley 116 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: success as a as a defensive player, which Patrick Beverley 117 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: took exception two because he thought that was him actively 118 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: attacking his perception around the league and potentially costing him money. 119 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad blood there, so I think 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: you can pretty safely assume that Russ is going out 121 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: of the Lakers locker room as a result of this 122 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley deal. But I did want to get into 123 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the basketball a little bit. He is a downright disruptive 124 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: point of attack defender. We talked about the difference between 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: positional defenders and this uptive defenders to positional defenders give 126 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: ground to make you shoot over the top. Disruptive defenders 127 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: are more aggressive forward, trying to disrupt your handle and 128 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: shooting pocket, but they're more likely to give up straight 129 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: line drives. We're gonna get a little bit more into 130 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: that later as it pertains to the fit with the Lakers. 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: But he is a downright disruptive point of attack defender. 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: He's what I would call a test. He's a guy 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: that is actively doing things that aren't even necessarily normal 134 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: basketball behaviors because he's trying to get in your head. 135 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: He's trying to frustrate you, he's trying to get you 136 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: outside of your element and to be uncomfortable. There's a 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: great deal of value there because there's nothing. There's nothing 138 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: that's more important to an offensive player playing well than 139 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: his comfort. If he feels comfortable dribbling the basketball, if 140 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: he feels comfortable getting to his shot, in all likelihood, 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: he's going to have a good shooting night. These guys 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: are too talented, they work too hard to not play 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: well when they're comfortable. Patrick Beverley actively attacks your comfort 144 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: zone and tries to make you play outside of that, 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of players really struggle with that, which 146 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: is why he's as success full of defensive player as 147 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: he is. He plays with consistent energy, and like the 148 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: real kind of consistent energy where he really tries on 149 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: every single possession, not the Russ's consistent energy, where it's 150 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: more more of the the the the yelling and the 151 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: screaming and the jawing, and there's a whole lot of 152 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: possessions being taken off, uh, surrounding that, so it's kind 153 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: of more showy than it is a substance, you know 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. He's a decent catching shoot three point 155 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: shooter sixty for one fifty six last year, that's thirty. 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: He's seven for fifteen on catching shoot threes in the playoffs, 157 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: which was what does that amount to. He's a standard 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: spacing threat. He's not a guy that people are going 159 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: to actively account for off the ball, but he is 160 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: a guy that the that teams will play normal uh 161 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: positional defense off of him when he doesn't have the basketball. 162 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: They'll be far enough away that they can help, but 163 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: close enough that they feel like they can close out. 164 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: They're not going to abandon Patrick Beverley and leave him open. 165 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Because he has proven himself as a willing and capable 166 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: catch and shoot three point shooter, he's also really smart 167 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: attacking closeouts, and he can make some plays as a 168 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: second side creator. This is again this is there's a 169 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: huge difference between primary side creator, meaning you're attacking a 170 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: set defense, you bring the ball up the floor, the 171 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,239 Speaker 1: defense is set in perfect positioning, and you're attacking. Patrick's 172 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: not going to succeed in that specific situation. But if 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: he's attacking closeouts meaning the defenders out of position and 174 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: sprinting out at him, or he's a second side creator 175 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: meaning he's running an action after the defense has already 176 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: been put into rotation, he can actually have some success there. 177 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: He had two hundred and sixty eight assists this year 178 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: to just sixty seven turnovers. That is a three point 179 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: six seven assists to turnover ratio among all players in 180 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: the league who played at least fifty games and at 181 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: least twenty minutes per game. I would call that any normal, 182 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: full scale rotation player. He was fourth in the league 183 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: and assisted turnover ratio behind just Tias Jones, Chris Paul 184 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: and Montemore Us. So he is good at making plays 185 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: against a compromised defense without turning the basketball over. That's 186 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: very impressive. He is a solid NBA starter. So if 187 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: you look at it from that perspective, the Lakers are 188 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: flipping two bench players for one starter, and as I said, 189 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: going into the summer, the Lakers are in a predicament 190 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: because if you don't count Russ, who's eventually gonna be 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: sent out, they have two players on the entire roster 192 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: who are NBA starters, Lebron James and Anthony Davis. They 193 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: needed to bring in starter level NBA talent, and Patrick 194 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Beverley absolutely fits that mold. The one huge red flag 195 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: that I would take a look at here is health. 196 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley has averaged forty seven games played in the 197 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: last five years. He pretty consistently has a decent a 198 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: pretty significant injury that keeps him out of decent chunk 199 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of the season. Let's take a look at the players 200 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: that the Lakers are sending out. So first of all, Taylor, Horton, Tucker. 201 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: I really liked Taylan and I really leaving his potential 202 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: as a two way power guard. The name that I 203 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: always throw out is like the high end of his 204 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: spectrum is Drew Holiday. That's unlikely, but he has that potential. 205 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: That's a type of player that he could be if 206 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: things go right. He's only twenty one years old, but 207 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: he has a really low center of gravity. He's super strong, 208 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: and he has very long arms that helps him guard 209 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: up in size. Despite only being six four, he can 210 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: guard a six eight wing because of how strong he is, 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: because how low a center of gravity is, and because 212 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: of his long arms that allow him to be disruptive 213 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: in someone's ball handling and in their shooting pocket. It 214 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: also makes him offensively very difficult to knock off of 215 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: his line. This is what I mean by power guard. Like, 216 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: if you look at Drew Holiday, you think he guards 217 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: up a position. He can guard basically anybody but a 218 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: big right because He's so strong and he is a 219 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: low center of gravity, and if you put small guards 220 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: on him, he could post them up and he can 221 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: drive them to the basket at will. Because how big 222 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: and strong he is, Tailor has that capability. I actually 223 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: really like the way he attacks the basket too, because 224 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't seek foul calls. He tucks the basketball like 225 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: a running back, goes up with power, and then extends 226 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: to try to finish at the rent. He averaged two 227 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: point one restricted area makes per game this year on 228 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: only twenty five minutes per game. That's pretty significant. There 229 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: are a lot of players in my top list that 230 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: weren't getting to the rim that often. Now, he did 231 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: only finish at six there, which for a guard is okay, 232 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: not good. But the dude can flat out get to 233 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: the rim, and he's an excellent disruptive on ball defender. 234 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: So those are his two elite skills right now. That 235 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: is that high end potential. Drew Holiday concept depends on 236 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: those two skills being combined with a well rounded skill 237 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: set around there. But he's in that well rounded skill set, 238 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: He's got a long way to go. He cannot shoot 239 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: the basketball. His release is too slow and he's set. 240 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: He doesn't lift off the ground very high, which I 241 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't understand why any coach would allow 242 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: a player, especially when with his potential to do that. 243 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: The main reason why is in the NBA, with the 244 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: speed and the change of direction and things like that, 245 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would want to slow yourself 246 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: down to then shoot a set shot as opposed to 247 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: shooting with more fluidity and pace like the vast majority 248 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: of guards and wings in the NBA do. He shot 249 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: only twenty seven on catch and shoot threes this year. 250 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: That's atrocious. He's actually a little bit more comfortable off 251 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: the dribble, but it's because with his set shot it 252 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: actually makes it easier for him to fade away and 253 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: to step back because he uses his legs a lot 254 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: shot off the dribble this year. But he has to 255 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: make massive, massive, massive improvements as a shooter to ever 256 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: reach that high end potential that I was talking about. 257 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: As a passer, he misses way too many easy reads. 258 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: He makes flashy plays like you'll see Taylan, you know, 259 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: in a pick and roll, get into the lane and 260 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: make an awesome bullet passed to the weak side. Corner 261 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: for a wide open three, and you'll be like, man, 262 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Taylor's got potential there, but you'll also see him miss 263 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: that same read two or three additional times. For every 264 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: one time he makes the read, he only averaged three 265 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: point eight assists per thirty six minutes with two turnovers. 266 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: That's not good as a playmaking guard. So right now, 267 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: he's pretty one dimensional offensively. He's also weak defensively off 268 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: the ball, makes puzzling help decisions, and he frequently loses 269 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: his man when he's watching the ball as a help defender. 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: So if he improves as a shooter, improves as a 271 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: decision maker, and improves as a as an off ball defender, 272 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: he can reach the potential of like fringe all star 273 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: guard like Drew Holiday, but he's got a long way 274 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: to go there. What that means is is Talen is 275 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: an interesting young prospect, but he doesn't fit the Lakers 276 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,359 Speaker 1: timeline because in order to be impactful, he needs years 277 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: to fix all of those things that I was just 278 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: talking about, and he's only twenty one years old. So 279 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: for Danny Ainge and Utah Jazz, it's just a timeline 280 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: swap you're teaching. Taking Patrick Beverley, who's a known commodity 281 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: who's not getting any better, and you the Utah jazz 282 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: A rebuilding, You're flipping him for Taylor Horton Tucker, a 283 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: player who right now is not as good as Patrick Beverley, 284 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: but has the potential to one day be much better. 285 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: So I like the move for Utah in that regard, 286 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: and I like to move for the Lakers in the 287 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 1: sense that they're bringing back a player that more accurately 288 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: fits their timeline and can actually help Lebron James and 289 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis win games right now. That swap made sense 290 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: to me where I had concerned last night with Stanley Johnson. Alright, 291 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: So first I need to reveal my biases here. I'm 292 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: a huge fan of Stanley Johnson. I was born and 293 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: raised in Tucson, Arizona. He came here and played at 294 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: the University of Arizona for one year before he went 295 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: to the NBA, and him and I played against each 296 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: other a lot while he was here during the off season, 297 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: and we had a good relationship, and I just like 298 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: the guys. So that's gonna color my analysis here a 299 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: little bit. But he also is directly a very important 300 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: fit within what the Lakers need on this roster. This 301 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: Lakers team is sorely lacking in wing size, and Stanley 302 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: is their biggest and most athletic wing. He's six seven 303 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: with shoes on, and here's the big one. He's two 304 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: hundred and forty two pounds. That is huge for a wing. 305 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Lebron James is considered one of the biggest and most 306 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: physically imposing wings in the entire history of basketball, and 307 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: he played most of his career about two sixty and 308 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: Stanley Johnson's two forty two. The vast majority of six 309 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: six wings in the league are like two ten to fifteen, 310 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: and he's two under and forty two pounds. That allows 311 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: him to guard up in size. He also has a 312 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: seven foot wingspan. He is the best defensive being on 313 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: the roster for the Lakers now. In fairness, can't shoot 314 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: on catch and shoot threes this year. He attacks closeouts 315 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: well and can pass the basketball, but it's not enough 316 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: to make up for his other offensive shortcoming, so that 317 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: does make him a bench wing. My thing is, with 318 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: how thin they are on the wing, I would have 319 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: looked at other options before I would have allowed Stanley 320 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: to go that easily and now I don't know the situation. 321 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if Danny Ainge insisted on taking Stanley 322 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: or what the deal was. And look, if he insisted 323 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: on taking Stanley, then you gotta throw Stanley in the 324 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: deal because flipping Taylor for Patrick Beverley is is worth it. 325 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: But that specifically was my one big reservation about this deal. 326 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: One thing I'll say in defense of Rob Polinka, Juantaskano, Anderson, 327 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: and Troy Brown Jr. Effectively do fill this role. And 328 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: with the two of them and Austin Reeves on the rosters, 329 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: they should be able to fill that role. It's just 330 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: a matter of depth. I would have looked at other 331 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: options before losing Stanley because of the depth and because 332 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: of matchups. Him being two hundred forty two pounds that's 333 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: so much heavier than a Troy Brown Jr. Or in 334 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves. That allows him to guard bigger wings and 335 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: forwards that those guys just simply can't guard. So that 336 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: was my one big reservation from the deal. So zooming 337 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: out from the trade a little bit, you're flipping a 338 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: bench wing and a bench guard for a solid NBA 339 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: starting point guard. So that's a good exchange for the Lakers, 340 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: they also get off Taylor Horton Tucker's contract, which gives 341 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: them more long term flexibility, which we'll talk about here 342 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. I also really like, specifically 343 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: what Patrick Beverley does offensively and defensively alongside Lebron James 344 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis in Minnesota. Because of Anthony Edwards and 345 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell and their lack of confidences ball handlers in 346 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: a lot of situations, pet beeB was asked to do 347 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot with the basketball. He also had a good 348 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: matchup against John rand so he was attacking a lot. 349 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: But the reality is is, alongside On James and Anthony Davis, 350 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: he is going to be able to hyper focus his 351 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: skills in in the directions that he's great at, ball pressure, 352 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: being a disruptive defender, being a great rebounding guard, shooting 353 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: in spot up situations, attacking with an advantage on the 354 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: second side, and attacking closeouts. He's gonna be able to 355 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: direct his racehorses in the directions that he's most capable of. 356 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: But this is why the Pacers trade is so important. 357 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: The proposed Buddy Healed Miles Turner for Russell Westbrook in 358 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: two first round picks trade. When you lose Russell Westbrook 359 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: and you lose Taylor Horton Tucker, all of a sudden, 360 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: your backup creators outside of Lebron are Kendrick Nunn and 361 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley, which is just not good enough. Buddy Healed 362 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: fills that role of that secondary creator next to Lebron 363 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: that properly slots Patrick Beverley and Kendrick Nunn as weak 364 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: side creators, and Healed provides that off the dribble shooting 365 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: that I've always found so value. But we've talked about 366 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: this before, but just about every point guard that has 367 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: played for the Lakers has been a bad shooter. You know, 368 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: Region Rondo, Dennis Shrewder, Russell Westbroog, You guys get the point. 369 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: And what ends up happening is it makes the the 370 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis point guard pick and roll useless because teams 371 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: can go underneath the screen and they don't have to 372 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: account for off the dribble shooting. Buddy Held is an 373 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: outstanding off the dribble, high volume, three point shooter, so 374 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: that makes it so that guards have to chase him 375 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: over the top of the screen, which changes the dynamic 376 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: of the pick and roll. If the guard is chasing 377 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: over the top of the screen, Buddy Healed can get 378 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: downhill into the lane. If Buddy Heald can get downhill 379 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: into the lane, then the big man and the drop 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: coverage has to step over to contain Buddy Healed. If 381 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: the bigest containing Buddy Healed and the guard is chasing 382 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: over the top, who's rolling untouched to the rim. It's 383 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: gonna be Anthony Davis. They're gonna have to pull guys 384 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: out of the week side corner to tag Anthony Davis 385 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: as a roller, which is gonna open up wide open 386 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: shots on the week side, or if they stay on 387 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: that shooter, Anthony Davis is gonna get pocket passes or 388 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: lobs for dunks all day long. So Buddy Heald is 389 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: immensely important now to the Lakers because you can't have 390 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley and Kendrick Nunn being your secondary creators and 391 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: you need to unlock that Anthony Davis pick and roll again. 392 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: As far um as Miles Turner goes, this is a 393 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: two big team. Not only did you just bring in 394 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: another small guard, but you just shipped off your biggest wing. 395 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: This is a team that is very heavy on little 396 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: guards and big players centers, right, So you're not gonna 397 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: be playing Anthony Davis at the five because you don't 398 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: have enough wing size. This is a two big team. 399 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Lebron is gonna play most of the season at the three, 400 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis is gonna play most of the season 401 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: at the four. And I like Thomas Bryant and I 402 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: like Damian Jones, but on good teams, they're bench bigs. 403 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: So Miles Turner brings in a starting level NBA center 404 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: to fill that role once again. Now, if with this deal, 405 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: I can competently set confidently say that the Lakers have 406 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: five NBA starters because they have Patrick Beverley, Buddy Yield, Lebron, 407 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: a d and Miles Turner. Miles Turner is an interesting 408 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: player because his value is so specific to this system 409 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: in the modern NBA. He can shoot a little bit, 410 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: and he's an outstanding rim protector, and he runs the 411 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: floor okay, But like a lot of bigs, he struggles 412 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: in spaced out situations and he's not gonna be able 413 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: to guard on the perimeter. He's also not grad at 414 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: attacking close out, so you're never gonna use him in 415 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: a five out, you know, attacking closeouts type of system. 416 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to count on him to an extended 417 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: advantage or to drive and kick to other teammates. Defensively, 418 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: you would never play him with small lineups where he 419 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: needs to cover a lot of ground, But in huge 420 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: lineups where you're primarily funneling guys to biggs and you're 421 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: using drop coverages instead of switching, you can keep him 422 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: near the rim where he's more impactful. Turner has weaknesses 423 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: and teams will find ways to attack him, but he 424 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: also has emense strengths and they can at least try 425 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: to build the system around turner strengths, and you can 426 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: kind of kind of start to see the identity of 427 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers taking shape. They are going to be an 428 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: a an aggressive perimeter defense team that is willing to 429 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: give up drives because they're gonna have a ridiculous back line. Defensively, 430 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Miles Turner is one of the best shot blockers in 431 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: the league. So is Anthony Davis. Lebron James when engaged, 432 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: is a dynamic help defender on the back line. The 433 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: three of them cleaning up messes on the back line 434 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: will allow Patrick Beverley to be more aggressive on the perimeter. 435 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: It will allow Buddy Healed, a limited defensive player, to 436 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: focus on ball pressure, to focus on disruption, knowing if 437 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: he gives up a drive, it's not the end of 438 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: the world because there's a ton of help behind him 439 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: and he just needs to rotate out to the next 440 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: guy and then on the offensive end of the floor. 441 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Spacing is gonna not be great, but at least Miles 442 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Turner as a shooting five, can go to the corner 443 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: or go on the opposite wing, and you'll be able 444 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: to run high pick and roll with Anthony Davis. It's 445 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be a five out driving kick attack. It's 446 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a traditional high pick and roll and mismatch 447 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: attacking type of system. But Miles Turner's ability to come. 448 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: He's not a great shooter, but he's a competent shooter. 449 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: His ability to be a competent shooter will at least 450 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: provide them better spacing than they had in the season 451 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: when that big man was Dwight Howard and Javaiale McGee, 452 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: and the Lakers half court offense suffered that year because 453 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: of spacing. I think it'll be a little bit better 454 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: this year if they can get Miles Turner into that role. 455 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: So as far as grading this trade goes, it's an incomplete. 456 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: If they get Buddy Healed and Miles Turner, I'll give 457 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: it a beat because it fits the identity of the team. 458 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: But I don't like losing and Ley Johnson. But we 459 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: can't technically give them that trade until the following trade, 460 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is, ends up actually taking place, So I'd 461 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: give it an incomplete as of right now. But once again, 462 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: just like every other season of this Lakers era, everything 463 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: comes down to health. Miles Turner has had health issues. 464 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: He's played less than fifty games two years in a row. 465 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley is averaging less than fifty games in the 466 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: last five years. Lebron James and Anthony Davis had have 467 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: had health issues. If they all get hurt again this year, 468 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: this is another team that will miss the playoffs. But 469 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: if they all stay healthy, they can be damn good. 470 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: The other angle of this trade is the future. Getting 471 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: off of Taylor Horton. Tucker's deal gives the Lakers more 472 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: cap space next summer. There are other factors there, obviously, 473 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: like if they trade and obtained Buddy Healed. Buddy Healed 474 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: has one more year on its contract, but Russell Westbrooks 475 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: salaries bigger than Healed and Turner, so chances are that 476 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: they make up some of that ground there. But then again, 477 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: he'd be in expiring so they might be able to 478 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: move him. There's a there's a bunch of different pieces 479 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: in play, but they could have as much as thirty 480 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: five million dollars in cap space next summer. That's the max. 481 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: That's if they somehow managed to shed all the salary 482 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: after the season, Because Lebron James and Anthony Davis alone 483 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: leave the Lakers with only thirty five million dollars in 484 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: max in cap space, that's not enough to offer a max, 485 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: but it is enough to attract high level players who 486 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: would be willing to play with the Lakers. Alongside Lebron 487 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis. There were three names that I 488 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: looked at when I was looking at next year's free 489 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: agents that I thought were interesting. Obviously, Kyrie Irving. We 490 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: don't have to get into his fit. I've done that 491 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: several times on the show, but he has said that 492 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: he wants to go to l A. Obviously, if things 493 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: go south in Brooklyn this year, I would imagine that 494 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: he'd be the top target for the Lakers. James Harden 495 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: is also potentially a free agent next year if he 496 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: opts out of his player option, which his player option 497 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: would be right around what the Lakers have in cap 498 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: space next year. I don't think that's a realistic option 499 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: because I expect things to go well this year in Philly. 500 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: I think James Harden has recommitted to taking care of 501 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: his body. I expect him to have one of the 502 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: best seasons of his career this year, and I expect 503 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: the Sixers to be very good, and I expect him 504 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: to stay in Philly. But if something else goes south 505 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: in Philly, for instance, if Joel Embiide gets hurt, or 506 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: if James Harden for whatever reason doesn't have a great season, 507 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: he could end up opting out of that deal and 508 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: becoming an unrestricted free agent next year and looking outside 509 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: of Philly, at which point the Lakers become a possible 510 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: destination for him. There. The last guy I wanted to 511 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: mention here is Andrew Wiggins. He's an unrestricted free agent 512 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: next summer. The Warriors will have his bird rights and 513 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: have the ability to sign him again, but they're in 514 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: a huge situation with luxury tax and and their payroll. 515 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: So there's a decent chance that Joe Lake of ends 516 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: up letting Andrew Wiggins go. Andrew Wiggins is not an 517 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: All Star, but he's a very interesting fit. Well technically 518 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: he was an All Star last year, but he's not 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: an All Star type of player, but he's a very 520 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: interesting fit alongside Lebron James and Anthony Davis. To actually 521 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: allow them to go small, you need a Legit three 522 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: and D wing andy Legit three and D four power 523 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: forward in order to put an Anthony Davis at center. 524 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: Lebron James can do that at the four, but they've 525 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: never had someone to fill in that spot at the three. 526 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't Trevor Ariza. They like Kyle Kuzmago. Maybe Andrew 527 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Wiggins could be that guy for them. Point is the 528 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: getting off of Taylor Horton. Tucker's deal gives the Lakers 529 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: more cap space next summer, and they will be an 530 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: interesting player in the free agent market, albeit a limited 531 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: free agent class, but a couple of interesting names in there. 532 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: So like, just to put a bow on it, I 533 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: do like the trade, and I like the buddy healed 534 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: Miles Turner deal again, You guys gotta there's flaws here. 535 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: Miles Turner has issues, Buddy Healed has issues. But you 536 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: are flipping Russell west Brook. You're taking a roster that 537 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: had nothing and potentially retro fitting it into a team 538 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: that has real upside. So if you're gonna get that result, 539 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: there's obviously going to be some risk. And the risk 540 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: here is health. They need everybody to stay healthy. But 541 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: if they do stay healthy, this will be a damn 542 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: good team and they will be a team that absolutely 543 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: has a chance to hoist the trophy at the end 544 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: of the year if they stay healthy. The last thing 545 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: gole I wanted to look at this trade from was 546 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: the Lakers and the totality of their predicament that they 547 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: created over the course of the last couple of years. 548 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is is it's extremely difficult 549 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: to win an NBA championship. A lot of things have 550 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: to go your way, not just off the court, but 551 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: on the court, Guys staying healthy, guys making shots. But 552 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: there's obviously the stuff that's off the court that's under 553 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: your control, the way you construct the roster, and it's 554 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: it's it's already difficult enough without you sabotage dging yourself. 555 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: This Lakers trade is an attempt to clean up a 556 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: mess that they created. They decided that they valued Taylon 557 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: Horton Tucker, a young prospect, over Alex Caruso, a proven 558 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: winning player who started an NBA Finals game. Then they 559 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: had to trade Taylor with Stanley Johnson to get back 560 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: a player and Patrick Beverley, who is a lesser version 561 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: of Alex Cruso. Alex Crusoe is the same type of 562 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: disruptive defender, the same type of impact effort player that 563 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: also has the size to guard up several positions. He's 564 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: a better player, and the Lakers are undoing damage that 565 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: they did to themselves as a result, and it's really unfortunate. 566 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: The other angle I wanted to look at here is 567 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers have such an interesting direction that they're going 568 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: in different than the other team around the league. All 569 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: of the smart teams are going in on wings, players 570 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: between six six and six ten that can guard multiple 571 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: positions and dribble the basketball and shoot and do all 572 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: the things that perimeter players do while also containing on 573 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: the perimeter as defensive players. And the Lakers continue to 574 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: prioritize the exact opposite small guards and bigs. Arguably, their 575 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: best free agent signing the summer was Thomas Bryant, a center. 576 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: Their first trade targeted a small guard. They have shipped 577 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: off Stanley Johnson, their biggest and most athletic wing. Their 578 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: mid level exception signing was on an undersized guard that's 579 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: not a great defensive player. The while all of the 580 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: smart basketball minds in the league are going one way, 581 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: the Lakers are going the opposite way. It's one of 582 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: the biggest reasons why I don't have a ton of 583 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: confidence in the direction that Rob Bolinka has taken this team. Now, 584 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: Lebron James and Anthony Davis are so damn good that 585 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: they might be able to win anyway. They actually did 586 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: at one point in time, But at a certain point, 587 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: if the Lakers are going to have consistent success in 588 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: this league, they're going to need to have a front 589 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: office that pays attention to what works in the modern 590 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: NBA so that they can target those players so that 591 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: they don't make mistakes that put themselves in a situation 592 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: where they have to fix their own problems. Going after 593 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, sacrificing the wing defenders that they lost. Alex 594 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: Crusoe Contavious called a pope Kyle Kuzma. Any smart president 595 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: of basketball operations that is aware of the direction the 596 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: league is going is going to know that's a bad idea, 597 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: and the Lakers did not, and so they walked headlong 598 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: into the trap. And now they have to clean up 599 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: the mess, and as a result, they have to make 600 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: high risk moves like obtaining guys like Patrick Beverley and 601 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Miles Turner that haven't been healthy often and that have 602 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: flaw us. So it's just it's just an interesting it's 603 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: it's an interesting dynamic because the Lakers have enough you know, 604 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: cashet around the league to pull big names, but their 605 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: front office is definitely a step behind the rest of 606 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: the league and it will permanently as long as Rob 607 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: Polink is in control. As long as Genie Buss allows 608 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: the decision making process to work the way it does, 609 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers will be operating at a disadvantage and will 610 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: make it harder for them to win. All right, Before 611 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: we get out of here today, I wanted to quickly 612 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: touch on this Chet homegrown injury. So, first of all, 613 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: as far as it pertains to Chet and his health. 614 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully this was just bad luck on the play where 615 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: Lebron is barreling into him and not the classic issue 616 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: that seems to happen to so many super tall players 617 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: in basketball history, which is they have bad feet. Hopefully 618 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: that's not what happens here to chat and hopefully he 619 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: makes a full recovery. The question that that was flying 620 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: around this morning was should players play in pro ams? 621 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Should players play in the summer? And I find this 622 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: to be such a stupid conversation that's frustrating for me 623 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: to listen to. Now, if it was wet floor, Like, 624 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: if it was about the wet floor, I get that, Like, yeah, 625 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: no player, regardless of whether or not you're a pro, 626 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: should be playing basketball in a dangerous floor. It's just 627 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: not worth the risk. So let's set that aside for 628 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: a minute. As far as the discussion of pro players 629 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: playing in pro ams or pickup games and things like that, 630 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: basketball players have to play basketball individuals. I'm a big believer, 631 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: Like I do individual training for my high school team, 632 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in balance, for every one hour 633 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: that you spend on individual work, you should spend an 634 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: hour doing it against a live defense. Because there is 635 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: a huge difference, and you need to be able to 636 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: bridge that gap, connect your individual work with something that 637 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: you can comfortably do in a game. And the only 638 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: way you can do that is playing basketball. And when 639 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: you play basketball, there's a risk for injury. I don't 640 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: care if you're playing against other pros, or you're playing 641 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: against other overseas pros, or you're playing against other college players, 642 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: there's risk. Now do I think Lebron James and Anthony 643 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Davis should go play in l a fitness against a 644 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: bunch of like meatheadlifters that don't know how to play 645 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: and could get them hurt. No, of course not. But 646 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to live basketball against other competent basketball players, 647 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: they should play in the offseason, and fear of injury 648 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: is irrational. You could avoid playing pick up all summer 649 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: and then get hit hurt on the first day of 650 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: training camp because you land on someone's foot. Injuries are 651 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: part of the game. Basketball players have to play basketball. Therefore, 652 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: some basketball players will get injured. It's part of the deal. 653 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: I feel horrible for Chat and I hope that he 654 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: makes a full recovery and I look forward to watching 655 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: him next year. But there. There doesn't need to be 656 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: some sort of you know, uh rehashing of whether or 657 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: not basketball players should play basketball. That to me is 658 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: so nonsensical. All right, guys, that is all I have 659 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: for today. As always, sincerely appreciate your support. We should 660 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: be back on Sunday night. I will see you guys. 661 00:36:03,440 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Then the volume