1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things we have learned since we went 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: off the air last night about the Nashville shooter. One 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: that pops up this afternoon was being treated under doctor's 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: care for emotional disorder. This is twenty eight year old 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: former student that Christian School in Nashville, Tennessee, by the 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: name of Audrey Hale, who had transitioned to a male 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: identity of rather a female identity from a male identity. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Although what confused me was preferred him pronouns, so I 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: didn't really understand that. Well, some think that more recently 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: she was starting to go back to male identity. That's 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: what I read. What do you think this person was 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: born as a male? Did you see the family photos 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: when she was very young? She looks like a girl 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: and every one of them. That's probably because she was 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: identifying that way from a young age. But I'm talking 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: really young. The name was Aiden, and I thought it 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: was a male. The mother was referring to her as Audrey, 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: and oh she transitioned to while ago. But well, let's 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: get Jim. Apparently a high school teammate, you know, was 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: a female on the basketball team. Yes, yeah, it'sing. If 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: I used to say good morning, it's not morning, I well, 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: for you, it's good morning. It's morning in Hawaii, so somewhere, 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: let's particularly there. But Audrey Audrey Hale began life as 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a as a girl, a signing girl at life with 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: girl parts, okay, and then at some point later on 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: decided to transition to mail. Was in that process, and 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: this began apparently six or seven months ago according to friends, 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: and so Audrey Hale began using the name Aiden. So 31 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: the transition was from female to may I see, and wow, 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: that's a socker to me. I didn't know that. I 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: had read maybe a half a dozen stories and literally 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: got a half a dozen different interpretations from each story. 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna go with yours for now, thank you. The 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: only clue I had that she started as a girl, 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: as I thought she was just unquestionably a girl when 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: she was very little. She was, and so see, but 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: she wasn't. Was she using the name Aiden widely or 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: you're just on well on social media, I've seen posts there. 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Aiden is the name that was written onto one of 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: the guns. The three guns that were used. Interestingly, and 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of white marker or something on there, and 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: there were also stickers. These guns were actually decorated, These 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: two assault style rifles and the one nine millimeter handgun 46 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: that were used yesterday in this mass shooting. So yeah, 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: male female transitioning, not transitioning. This person's thought to be 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: responsible for six homicides. She had a collection of guns. 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Did the parents know? No, That's it's a great point 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: because the parents knew about some mental health issues that 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: their daughter and son had been going through that Audrey 52 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: had been facing for some time, and their assumption with 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: those was that those seven guns, Audrey Hale had been 54 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: allowed to or legally was allowed to buy seven guns 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: five different instances at five different guns stores, and to 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: have seven guns around. Well, the parents said, you know what, 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: you need to get rid of those. You're having mental 58 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: health issues. We don't want you to have those have 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: access to firearms, and so they apparently were told that 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the guns had been sold. Well, clearly Audrey Hale had 61 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: at least three of them, these two assault style rifles 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: and the handgun. Police also found at least a couple 63 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: of shotguns at Hale's home. So yeah, that apparently the 64 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: parents were lied to. They thought that some of the 65 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: guns or maybe all of the guns had been sold. 66 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: And what's the deal with this manifesto? It's an interesting point. 67 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna hear a lot more about that 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: in the coming days, as police and the FBI finish 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: up and probably will release some of that to the public. 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: They don't have and you wonder, you know, you start 71 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: thinking more of this information is coming out fast. There's 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: been surveillance video that's been released, body camera video from 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: the police, details about the planning that went into this, 74 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: and this manifesto contains a lot of that planning and 75 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: detailed descriptions and maps and things that were drawn. The reason, 76 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: I think is that there is no suspect to put 77 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: on trial, so they don't have to hold on to 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: this stuff carefully as evidence and to protect the rights 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: of a potential defendant. The potential defendant here died yesterday 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: in a hail of gun fire from police. Yeah. The 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: word I'm seeing is resentment. That there might have been 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: some resentment to that school apparently, so and why that 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: is we don't know. But one thing that was brought 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: out in this so called manifesto. Is that hail was 85 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: looking at a different location as well, and we haven't 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: been told. The media has been told what that other 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: location was. But the decision was made Audrey Hill said, 88 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the security is too tight at this other location, but 89 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: I can make it happen at the Covenant School, where 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I attended did part of my education, and so that 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: was the decision not to go at this other location, 92 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: but to go with the Covenant School. So, yeah, the 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: building itself or maybe the institution itself was targeted for 94 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: this attack, but none of the individual people. According to 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: the police, the three adults or three children were targeted specifically, 96 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: so they is the whole manifesto going to be released? 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: I suspect that at some point it will be, you know, 98 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: because why wouldn't it be, you know, the police don't 99 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: need to hold onto this as evidence because there won't 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: be a trial, So I would imagine. I can't say 101 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: for sure, but I think that we'll see a lot 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: more of it, and maybe the whole thing. Nobody it's 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: not just motive. Apparently it had details about how this 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: is going to be carried out. It did, yeah, including 105 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: maps that were drawn and the hail having been to 106 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: that school. Having attended that school, knew very well where 107 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: the doors were and where the the the office was, 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: the church office, the different parts of the school. And 109 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's amazing the detail that was put into that. 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: And again I think we'll see a lot of that. 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: Nobody's characterized what her emotional disorder was. No, there had 112 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: apparently been apparently been some talk of suicide or attempted 113 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: suicide or thoughts of suicide, at least in the past. 114 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: The parents have not been specific, or at least the 115 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: police have not been specific about what they know about 116 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: this emotional or mental health issue that Hale was suffering. 117 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Is there anything known about the state of her transition? 118 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: Was she on any medications just toosterone for example, because 119 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: the video I saw of her attacking the door, you 120 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: know that she blasted through with her assault weapon, very aggressive. 121 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I wondered if she was on testosterone or steroids or something, 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: because that has been quite an aggressive attack. We know 123 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: that she was under medical care. Now, whether that was 124 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: as part of this transition or not, I'm not sure. 125 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: He also noticed something else. She was tiny. You see 126 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: her reach up way up to the door to push 127 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it open. You know, I don't know how tall she was, 128 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: but judging by that security video, you know she wasn't 129 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: much more than five feet. But it doesn't matter if 130 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: you've got two assault rifles on your hip. And then 131 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: in my school, we know didn't have a resource officer 132 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: or they didn't did they even practice possible math shooters do? 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: We know? Don't know if they had practiced that, they 134 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: did not have a school resource officer. Since it was 135 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a private school, you know that the same rules don't apply. 136 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: They don't have to have security guards or have metal 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: detectors or anything else. You know, it may be the 138 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: private schools be looking at that as well in the future. 139 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: And Jim apparently she texted a friend to her as 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: this is the story coming out today, not long before 141 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: she carried out this attack that sounded suicidal for what 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, Paige Patton, the friend of hers, who 143 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: knew her back in fact, I think played basketball there 144 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: in junior high school or high school or junior high 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: at least, said that she got a page or rather 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: a text message from Audrey Hale describing some of what 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: was going to happen. I've seen those text messages and 148 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's a desperation. There, I'm going to do this. 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: You're going to hear about me in the news. I'll 150 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: see you on the other side after after I'm gone. 151 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: All right, Jim, thank you very much for that update. 152 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thanks guys. Hi Jim Ryan, ABC News 153 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: for KFI on the Math shooter Nashville, Tennessee. I need 154 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: to go lie down because this was all a new 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: revelation to me that Audrey Hale was born female and 156 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: I had it the opposite. Yes, I did. I did too, 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: I think everybody did, because that's the way it was reported. Yeah, 158 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: because we didn't know the names, you know, Audrey then 159 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: she was and I couldn't tell which came first to 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: which was which, So she was presented as a as 161 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: a transgender named Audrey. So the assumption was she was 162 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: going male to female. And then I found one new 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: story this morning, and it showed family photos from a 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: long time ago, and she's a girl, clearly a girl, 165 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: like a feminine girl, and all of them. And then 166 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: there was that story from her old friend and they 167 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: played together on a middle school basketball team. Yeah, and 168 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: it was a it was a female. I saw a 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: picture out a friend, so I knew it was a 170 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: girl's basketball team. So then I started thinking, oh, she 171 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: transitioned early, but no, she was female school years. So 172 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: the guy the guy transition period, I think seems to 173 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: be fairly recent. There's a there's a video of her 174 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: at her art graduation and also explaining her an art project, 175 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: and she's dressed like a guy. She's got a man's shirt, 176 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: man's pants, a tie, haircut short. She looks at first clients, 177 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: You'll think you'd say that's a guy, maybe as somewhat 178 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: feminine looking guy. But it's a guy. And so it was. 179 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: It was quite confusing because she hadn't she wasn't calling 180 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: herself aiden everywhere other than some social media accounts. But 181 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: that explains to him reference, because this was a female 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: wanting to become a male. So all right, because I 183 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: was confused by that. Last night I was looking at 184 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: stories and they prefer preferred pronouns where he, his and him, 185 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, but I thought, this is Audrey now 186 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: a female formerly a male. Nope, just the opposite. I 187 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: don't know if she was going back and forth watching 188 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: the video though. It's a little um, I don't know 189 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: what the word is, but but she is small, um, 190 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: she she has her The way she saunters, the way 191 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: she walks down the hall is it's a guy's walk. 192 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: It's definitely not a feminine walk. It looks like a 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: small guy, almost like a kid walking. And then the 194 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: way she wields that gun, especially blasting her way through 195 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: the through the doors, is really aggressive. So I don't 196 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: know what was going on in there. We got more 197 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: on the story coming up new Johnny Ken kf I 198 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: Am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You're 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: listening to John and Ken on demand from kf I 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: AM sixty. All right, Well, the good old Daily Mail 201 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: just dropped a story that, if true, could explain sort 202 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: of what we were just puzzling over concerning the Nashville shooter, 203 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: who we now understand, Audrey Hale was a female assigned 204 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: female John at birth assigned. They later decided that she'd 205 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: rather be a mail I will get off on a 206 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: side road yet, but with the name of Aiden, and 207 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: in a certain way, as I puzzled over this, I thought, 208 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: this is a person kind of going back and forth. Well, 209 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: if the story that they just published is true, the 210 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: explanation is her parents did not want her to transition. 211 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Her mother, Norma as a church coordinator, age sixty one. 212 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Her father, Ronald, age sixty four, refused to let her 213 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: as a man in their home, so she would gather 214 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: her clothes, leave the house looking female, go somewhere else, 215 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: dress up as male, and present herself as male under 216 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the name Aiden. So says you're According to neighbors and others, 217 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: we always saw her as a skater tomboy type. At 218 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago, she introduced herself 219 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: as Audrey. I treated her like a female and she 220 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't correct me. She seemed artistic, quiet and well mannered. 221 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: But apparently what was really going on And we learned 222 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: this because she texted a friend and it sounded like 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: she was going to go commit suicide. She didn't tell 224 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: the friend I'm going to the school to kill people, 225 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: but she said I'm going to be in the news 226 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: and this is probably the last you'll hear from me. 227 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: So that led the friend to call a suicide hotline. First, 228 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: they totally called the sheriff's department, and eventually they got 229 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: word that the school was being shot up. So they 230 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: also believe that she had other targets in mind. Including 231 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: her own family members, and perhaps a shopping mall in Nashville. 232 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: But clearly she didn't get to that because the cops 233 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: killed her first. But you know, well, the only thing 234 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: I learned about the parents is they were The mother 235 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: was strongly an anti gun, which is a bit at 236 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: odds with other stories. When you hear about a person shooting, 237 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: you sometimes find out that there's guns all over the house, right, Yeah, 238 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: you go to the shooting range together or things like that. 239 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: This mother wanted none of it, and so she had 240 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: to hide the guns, as well as hide the fact 241 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: that she preferred to be a boy or a man. 242 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: Twenty eight years old, that would be a man, So 243 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: she would leave the house and change clothes, so they 244 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: didn't know at the guns. They didn't know she was 245 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: walking around as a as a as a man in 246 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: other places like I guess that school, or other people 247 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: she hung out with. We also have some of the 248 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: audio that the companies. They released a couple of things 249 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: night the surveillance footage, and John kind of described it. 250 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: When Audrey you blasted away into the school by firing 251 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: through some doors, and then you see her takeoff down 252 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: the hallway backwards. Baseball cap dressed in camouflage, kind of 253 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: crouching around looking like an attacker. Then later on they 254 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: released bodycamp footage from the police officers, who responded, yes no. 255 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: The video of the police officers, this was the opposite 256 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: of those u Uvaldi cops. They got right in there. 257 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: That thing was over from from beginning to end in 258 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: fourteen minutes in this video. It is really extraordinary because 259 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen a video exactly like this before. They're 260 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: running down the hallway and they get to this atrium 261 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: where Audrey is blasting out the windows. They say she 262 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: might have been firing at the police cars down below. Oh, 263 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: I was wondering what she was up to when they 264 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: got to her. Yeah. Yah. So she was in the 265 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: corner and coming down the hall way and then making 266 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: like a slight right turn, and you see Audrey in 267 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: the far right hand corner of the shot, and the 268 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: camera got the cop right in front of the camera. 269 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: He turns and he fires and she goes down. I'm 270 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: perfect shot. Got her in the head, I think, because 271 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: as they approached closer, they blurred out Audrey's head. You 272 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: could see the rest of her body laying there lifeless. 273 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,479 Speaker 1: So I think this sharpshooter got her in the head immediately, 274 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: and you could see the moment she went down. It 275 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: was a big bang. Did they one version of this 276 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I saw last night. Looked like they shot her and 277 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: then they walked up and kept shooting at her to 278 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: make sure she was dead. May I just imagined that. 279 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I think they shot her several more times. They were 280 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: shouting at her to stop moving, stop moving, and maybe 281 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: she was still flopping around there and then they Yeah, 282 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: I thought once they figure her disabled, then they move 283 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: in to a cup you and then take it for 284 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: medical treatment. But it looked to me like they're going 285 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: to make sure this one's dead. When I take any 286 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: chances here, she may have been dead with the first shot. 287 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: We got some audio of that play plant. Yeah, there 288 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: you go. Now they kept going. They were running closer 289 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: to r What are they They're screaming at her, get 290 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: her hand away from the gun. But I think she 291 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: was already at you already think she was shot. Yeah, 292 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: she definitely was shot. They got her with the first barrel. 293 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Play play the very beginning of the clip again. You'll 294 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: hear the window crashing, and that's that's Audrey firing down 295 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: at the police cars through the window in the atrium 296 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah. That so she's shooting out the window 297 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: and then they the first round of bullets. Is is 298 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: the guys turning the corner and immediately blasting her. Wow, 299 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: which is, well, like you said, opposite of Vivaldi, we're 300 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: going right in there and we're taking this shooter out 301 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: as fast as possible. I don't I guess she wasn't 302 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: wearing armor from what I understand, But I guess not. 303 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: But that's how you do it. There should be no 304 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: further debate between seeing the video Vivaldi last year and 305 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: seeing this video. It's a video, b That's how you 306 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: do it. When you have an active shooter. You run 307 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: as close as you can and take them out and 308 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: aimed for the head. It's a really nice looking school. 309 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: When they were walking through the rooms and stuff in 310 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: the hallways, it was kind of modern and very well appointed. 311 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: And but I guess what I didn't realize is they 312 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: must have been quick. I mean, it's terrible that she 313 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: killed this many people, but they must have gotten a 314 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: lot of people out of there. The kids. I did 315 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: see a video yesterday the kids lined up in a 316 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: single rope walking out of the school like they did Newtown. 317 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Remember after that shooting in twenty twelve. We well, the 318 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: cops had stored early in the video, the cops had 319 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: stormed into a couple of rooms and the rooms were 320 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: all empty classrooms. So yeah, they because you heard the 321 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: alarm going off in the school. I think that was 322 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: the alarm to clear out, get out. Oh okay, because 323 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: again somebody disarmed and probably on the loose for ten minutes, 324 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: maybe in eight minutes, they could have killed a lot 325 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: more people. Kind Of lucky that way that people are 326 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: able to escape. This woman, she seemed to be by 327 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: herself up there. It did, That's what it looked like. 328 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I said, when they got to it, that's why you're saying, 329 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: looking for more targets. She started shooting out the window. 330 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, supposedly at police cars. All right, more 331 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: coming up. Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty. 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One eight seven seven Moist 342 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: eighty six. We'll have more on the shooting in Nashville, 343 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee later on the show. We're going to report from 344 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: Alex Stone ABC News with any more detail to the story. 345 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: We'll fill you in on other things that we have 346 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: learned this afternoon. And let me see, I think it's 347 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: coming up at around four thirty, Governor Dippity Do is 348 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: holding an event to sign that bill to quote hold 349 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: big Oil accountable. The bill that's going to set up 350 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: a new board, a new agency which is supposed to 351 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: monitor and examine gas prices in the state of California 352 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: and can turn around and penalize the oil companies for 353 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: quote excess profits is going to happen. And around four 354 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: thirty it says here in Sacramento he's going to have 355 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: a bill signing. It says here that uh oh, he 356 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: was inviting him. He was inviting well legislator, state officials, 357 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: and members of a coalition that boasts hundreds of supportive 358 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: leaders and community based organizations. But the truth is this 359 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: is nothing but communist government policy. The idea is that 360 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: will determine what's a fair price for gas in the state, 361 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: and if the oil companies go above that price, and 362 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: we determine that they make too much profits, we're gonna 363 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna grab it. And maybe maybe you're into communism 364 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: and government control of private business, that might be your thing. Well, 365 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: this is how it affects you. If they find these 366 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: oil companies for excess profits, then the companies in turn 367 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: will raise the price of gas and you'll pay their fine. 368 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely positive, you will pay their fine. And this all 369 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: works perfectly. You want to know why? Do you want 370 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: to know why the state gets money by grabbing money 371 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: from the oil companies and then with the oil companies 372 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: turned around to raise gas prices, they don't give a 373 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: bleep because they want you to get out of your car. 374 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Right So they're reading a story here the California Globe. 375 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: He's been on our show many times. Bill of SALEU, 376 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: the assemblyman from Riverside, said this is what they want. 377 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: He said, they want to drive up gas prices that 378 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: people are forced out of their cars and onto public transportation. 379 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying the quiet part out loud. The state wants 380 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: to drive people away from gas powered cars. So they 381 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: will tell you this publicly, but secretly, this is what 382 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: they want, and they figured out a way to win 383 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: on both ends. Right, They're gonna grab money from the 384 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: oil companies and they're gonna make you pay even higher 385 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: gas prices so that you stop driving your gas power. 386 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: It's a brilliant plane because they know most people are 387 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: ignorant of what's going on in state government. Won't even 388 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: take the time to understand this. A lot of people say, 389 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: screw the oil companies, so will make them feel good 390 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: to hear that they're getting investigated and there's some commission 391 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna find them now. Will you will pay the fines? 392 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: It'll be and they want you to pay the fines 393 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: because they want to make buying gasoline more uncomfortable. That 394 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: is the purpose. Newsome and the legislature are quite devious. 395 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: This is very well thought through and they knew that 396 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: virtually nobody in journalism is going to expose this or 397 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: cover this. You'll see there'll be nothing but lapdogs barking 398 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: during this press conference later in this afternoon, barking there 399 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: their woke approval at the oil companies getting getting getting 400 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: whacked over the head. All the companies are not getting 401 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: punished at all. This will not cost them a penny 402 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: of their profit. It's going to cost you. The other 403 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: thing that's going to happen. Possibly we'll have even less supplied. 404 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Some of the old companies will say California is just 405 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: not a place we want to do business anymore. We'll 406 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: go over these numbers again. Courtesy a Katie Grimes in 407 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: the California Globe. In nineteen eighty two, California had forty 408 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: three operational oil refineries and about twenty five million people 409 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: in the state. Today, we have eleven oil refineries with 410 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: nearly forty million people. So you do the math. Doesn't 411 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: that sound like a reduced supply. Yes, that's what's going 412 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: to happen to supply. They're not trying just to punish 413 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: tail companies. They're trying to put them out of business. 414 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: And they're trying to trying to stop you from ever 415 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: burning any fossil fuel for any reason. That's why that's 416 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: why they want to ban a gas stoves for example. 417 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: Of course, none of this has any effect on the climate. 418 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: So you may you may be cheering for communism, you 419 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: may be cheering the fight against climate change. This has 420 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: no effect on the climate because the Earth is way 421 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: too big and there's eight billion people and there's nothing 422 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: we in California can do, and we're not being leaders. 423 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Told you this for seventeen years now, ever since they 424 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: passed the Global Warming Solutions Act in two thousand and six, 425 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: we cannot and will not have any effect on a 426 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: world's climate. No, if you really are concerned about carbon emissions, 427 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: we have zero effect. The entire shut off everything in California, 428 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: you have no carbon emissions, it'll make no difference. Yeah, 429 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: it's right. You'd have the same temperature even if we 430 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: all put a gun to our heads and pull the 431 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: trigger all at the same time. We get out of 432 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: the mass suicide ideas. You could have forty million people 433 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: decide to commit suicide at once and it would have 434 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: the same effect on global warming as whatever he's doing. 435 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: But again, most people don't understand this. China builds coal 436 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: powered plants the way we build fast food franchises in 437 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: this country. They're constantly building coal powered plants, and they 438 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: have four times four times the population. India same thing, 439 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: four times the population, and they're building coal fired plants 440 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: because they have to, because China and India have a 441 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 1: lot of poor people and they're trying to pull them 442 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: up into middle class status to compete with us. And 443 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: the only way you can do that is by burning 444 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: fossil fuels. So this is foolish and silly. You know, 445 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: you will see as this plays out. Yeah, and by 446 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: the way, we import seventy five percent of the oil 447 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: we consume in California today. That's because, as I mentioned, 448 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: we're down to eleven operational refineries. And when you import 449 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: the oil, whether it's from other states or other countries, 450 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be more expensive. So if the oil 451 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: companies reduce their capacity even further, because California is now 452 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: coming out of them with their communist windfall profits tax idea, 453 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: we'll have even less refineries and we'll have even higher 454 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: gas prices. And it amazes me to hear these politicians. 455 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: I heard that the little dopey guy Alex Lee, that 456 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Bay Area assemblymans say he emplaming the oil companies completely 457 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: for California's high gas prices. He's a twit. These people 458 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: speak nonsense. Well, some of the stuff that they passed 459 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: in Sacramento was mostly why we're here with high gas prices. 460 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: Some of them speak nonsense, like Alex Lee because he's 461 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: just a chill, little man child, right, He's a twit. 462 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: He's never live normal life. He was living with his 463 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: mom before he got elected to the legislature. He was 464 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: delivering groceries, all right, so he doesn't know anything about 465 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: the world. But other people like Newsome and Newsome as advisors, 466 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: they are knowingly spouting nonsense because they want to confuse 467 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: the public, preferably bore the public, so you're not paying attention, 468 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: and they know that virtually every reporter in the state 469 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: is going to follow along. Some of those reporters are 470 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: too stupid to understand what's really going on, and some 471 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: of them are part of the woke mob, and they're 472 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: going to cheer the climate change fight, but you're not 473 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: going to have anybody tell you honestly, the honest truth 474 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: is they're trying to drive up the gas prices so 475 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: you stop driving, and they're trying to get the oil 476 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: companies to abandon California entirely, and both of those are 477 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: going to be catastrophic to your budget and catastrophic to 478 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: our life out here and to business. Yeah. The only 479 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: thing that happened that was a little interesting because this 480 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: bill passed overwhelmingly in both the Assembly and the Senate, 481 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: was that a number of Democrats just didn't vote. It 482 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: was fifty two to nineteen in the state Assembly, so 483 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: right there, that tells you like nine of them didn't vote. 484 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: I think they're mostly Democrats thirty eight in the Senate 485 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: because they don't want this hung around their necks for 486 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: the next reelection cycle. They might live in districts that 487 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: are a little tighter and they don't want to They 488 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: don't want to take any chances. They're cowards. They're cowards 489 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: because they should vote against it, and they also should 490 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: speak out why it's wrong, why it's not gonna work. 491 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: While it's it's a phony disguise. It looks like you're 492 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: you're beating the oil companies with a stick. You're not. 493 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: You're raising gas prices and you're going to destroy the 494 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: oil industry and the state eventually. That's what they want. 495 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: Just say it just admit it. Don't pretend you're fighting 496 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: a good fight for the little guy against the oil companies. Wow, 497 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: but they have to because you're right, But their nine 498 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: endgame will not be popular among people overwhelming number of 499 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: people that still drive a gas bowered car. Yeah, and 500 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: and maybe the maybe the woke holes at the LA 501 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Times should print the truth for what they They finally 502 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: acknowledged that the shooter yesterday was trans They did, I 503 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: saw that last night. Took him many hours to the truth. 504 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Part of it was that I had it wrong too, 505 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: so to take a while to untangle exactly what was 506 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: going on with the shooter's identity. I mean, I couldn't 507 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: figure out as you saw. We came on the air 508 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: today and I thought this was a person that was 509 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: born male and transition female. But it's the other way around, 510 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: sporn female and transition identified as male. Only in twenty 511 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: twenty three, this entire conversation would have made no sense 512 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Yeah, I'm just an old binary guy. Yeah, 513 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: way out of fashion. All right, We're coming up. John 514 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: and Ken KF I am six forty. We're live everywhere 515 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 516 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: demand from kf I am sixty All right, coming up 517 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: after two o'clock, we'll go through this detailed story in 518 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: the Alsagundo Times about the failure of a homeless nonprofit 519 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: provided housing and skid row. They had these apartment buildings 520 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: and they're all a wreck and a mess. We've talked 521 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: about this story before, but it's got some new fresh 522 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: details about the problems with time to create massive housing 523 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: projects with homeless people in them. Oh, this company, this 524 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: outfit nonprofit, is about bankrupt. Yeah. Did you notice the 525 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: salary that the woman who ran this man, Yes, oh Jesus, 526 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: all financed by your tax money, including that stupid proposition. Hhh. No, 527 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: you mistakenly voted for a few years ago. You could 528 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: see where the money went, your tax money went. And 529 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: wait till you see how much this woman was grabbing 530 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: in salary and bonuses. This is the homeless industrial complex 531 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: we talk about. It is severe deep this is it's 532 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: like Trump's deep state. This is the epitome of everything 533 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: we've been telling you about for years now. And this 534 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: is widespread. This isn't the only case like this. They knowingly, 535 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: the people running these nonprofits are knowingly taking millions of dollars. 536 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: It's going it's providing nothing good and they don't care. 537 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: They just have this huge taxpayer spigot that they're accessing 538 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: and they got a big trough that they're slurping from it. 539 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: We are on verdict Watch by the way. Mark Ridley Thomas, 540 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: the suspended Los Angeles City Council member, has been on trial. 541 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: When he was on the Board of Supervisors, the FEDS 542 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: arrested him or indicted him for a corruption for bribery 543 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: concerning the USC School of Social Work, steering contracts to 544 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: USC and return getting benefits for his dad son Sebastian 545 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas. What we do know is that they deliberated 546 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: for a full day yesterday, which is eight until two thirty. 547 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: They went home. They did send two notes to the judge. 548 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: The first they wanted a readback of testimony. Oh and 549 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: this one did bother me. The other day, defense expert 550 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: witness and Ravel, who used to be the chair of 551 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: the Federal Election Commission, testified that the one hundred thousand 552 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: dollar money transferred from Ridley Thomas to USC, then it 553 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: went to United Ways of California, and finally to Sebastian 554 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas's nonprofit. She said, it was all legal. Now 555 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: somebody wanted that read back. That could be somebody that 556 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: needed convincing that he's not guilty or that he is guilty. 557 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. They also asked for a 558 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: clarification of the meaning of the word acting corruptly in 559 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: regards to allegations, as these charges include it's legal legally's 560 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: honest services, mail and wire fraud. It may be a 561 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: legal process to transfer the money from one place to 562 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the next, but the illegal part it was in return 563 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: or the contracts. Yeah, Ridley Thomas sending the contracts to 564 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: the dean of the usc social work. You know, he 565 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: could have handed you know, his son money through some 566 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: other process. They just the reason they did it through 567 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: those agencies was to make it look legal. That was 568 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: the whole purpose. But the illegal part is the deal 569 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: they made in return. Yeah. They also asked for a 570 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: clarification about bribery. Does it have to be a thing 571 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: of value, something tangible to the defendant? I remember, I 572 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: said yesterday. This kind of bothered me because like the 573 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: other City Council pribes, it was all bags of money, 574 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: poker chips, hook earth. In this case it was just 575 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: his son getting special consideration at USC and maybe somebody 576 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: on the jury was having some trouble trying to understand 577 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: if that's bribery or that's just the way things worked out. 578 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: But obviously that's a benefit to Mark Ridley Thomas because 579 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: it's his son, who I'm sure he cares about very deep. 580 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: A scholarship. The scholarship is worth probably eighty thousand dollars 581 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: he was getting, he was he was getting free education, 582 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: and then the money that went through then went back 583 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: to his nonprofit. Right, that's one hundred eighty thing. He 584 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: got a professorship, which must be a paying post, right, Yes, 585 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: paying posts there too. I mean, I mean the whole 586 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: the whole package is probably worth several hundred thousand dollars. 587 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: I don't you have to be a really dim witted 588 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,239 Speaker 1: vegetable not to see the felonies here bribery If you're 589 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: sitting and goal, Oh, I don't know. Do you think 590 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: I could just hear the guy's voice, Well, I don't know, 591 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: does it really mean? Oh? God? You know, that's where 592 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I'd probably take something and starting hitting him over the 593 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: head onto another bribery story. You know, we haven't talked 594 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: about in a while, it's kind of faded out through 595 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: to all the other big stories. Sam Bankman freed, Hyphen 596 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Bankman freed because that's his parents' last name, so he 597 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: took them both because they were a wonderful Stanford family. Anyway, 598 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: He's the f X co founder who has of course 599 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: been charged with a mess of allegations concerning the collapse 600 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: of FTX. They slapped on another one they say the 601 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: FEDS do, and a new indictment that he paid forty 602 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: million dollars to various Chinese officials, maybe one, maybe several 603 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: so that they would unfreeze his accounts in China, which 604 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: contained a billion dollars worth of cryptocurrency. Ultimately, after both 605 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: legal and personal efforts failed, Bankmen Freed agreed to and 606 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: directed a multimillion dollar bribe to have the frozen accounts unlocked, 607 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: and it worked. They were unlocked, but he was already 608 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: beginning to panic. And I guess the Chinese government also 609 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: decided to freeze the accounts because they thought that that 610 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: money might go south in away from whoever the depositors 611 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: or investors were, so they tried to just freeze everything, 612 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: and apparently he had something left to bribe Chinese official 613 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: or officials. From forty million dollars, you can get anything done. 614 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a lot of money. Sure, yeah, 615 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: I don't Is there anybody who would uh uh not 616 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: succumb to a forty million dollars bribe? Uh what to 617 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: kill somebody? I wouldn't take forty million to kill people, 618 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's the same thing you're 619 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: talking about a financial situation. Yeah, yeah, you take forty 620 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: million to kill somebody? Depends who do I combody already 621 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: wanted dead or do I get to choose. This happened 622 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: around November of twenty twenty one, so this is before 623 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: you know the whole public collapse of FTX, but it 624 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: tells you there was already problems, and the Chinese government 625 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: had acted to freeze the accounts, and he was already 626 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: beginning to panic. So I think it's worth paying a 627 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: forty million dollar bribe to unlock a billion dollars worth 628 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: of crypto? I would say, oh, yeah, yeah, that's a 629 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: that's a tiny percentage, really right, right? Oh, And he 630 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: needed to do this to fund that stupid Alameda company, 631 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: the one that his former girlfriend was put in charge of. 632 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: That is really what was the undoing of FTX Alameda 633 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: imploded in November of last year because everybody wanted their 634 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: money back. I forget what they were doing. They were 635 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: involved in some investments that went sour. All right, when 636 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: we come back, we have fresh details on the collapse 637 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: of a big nonprofit called this skid Row Housing Trust, 638 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: and it is what you think it is. Skid Row. 639 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: It's only known for one thing, homeless people. And these 640 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: were buildings that were run by the trust. It owned 641 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: these buildings to house the homeless, and it is now 642 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: in financial ruins. We'll give you more details on the story, including, 643 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: as John said, the salary of the woman that headed 644 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: up to try. Yeah, you'll get you'll get very upset. 645 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Hey dever, forty million dollars to to cheeseburger. You take it? Yeah, yes, 646 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: yes I would, but sit it out. I set it 647 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: right out. No, you have to swallow the whole thing 648 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: for forty million dollars. Do you have that on tape? Yeah, 649 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: I'll clip that. All right. We got more cupping up, 650 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: John and can camp i. John, would you take forty 651 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: million to eat a bowl of broccoli? Oh? Bring it in, 652 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: I'll eat it for a month. We're live everywhere the 653 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app, never Mark live in the twenty four 654 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: Cafe newsroom. 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