1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Hi, I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: We are sibling rail No, no, sibling. You don't do 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: that with your mouth. Revel. That's good, Oliver. I'm excited 6 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: for what for mcaulleae cole Kin. 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's bring him in, okay. 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: Ollie Mack obviously is married to Brenda Song, who plays 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Ali on our show Running Point, and is like the 10 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: greatest ever point we got to get. 11 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: I've been going over this with her for yous now, 12 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: even though the show has only been on everyone even Branda. 13 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: We're calling him it running point and it's not You're 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: not You can't emphasize running because you're you're you're you're 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: running point. I was wondering what you're going, like the 16 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: basketball over trying to the point that point you're running point. 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: We are running point. 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: It's the show about shooting hoops. Yes, yeah, right, yeah. 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: It's not the running point meaning like I'm running. It's 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: like I'm running point, like it's a point card. I'm 21 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm I'm the tip of. 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: The spearman takes Yes, but I do understand your point. 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Now, we have all kinds of of connections to Mac, 24 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: but our biggest connection to Mac was Mac was in 25 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: school with our brother Boston in New York, that's right, 26 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: and way back in the day. 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: It was eighth grade. I think it was only for 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: one year. 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I remember Boston always like just he 30 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: was like could believe he was in school? 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: Was what school was, wasn't it school for like high 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: performing artists or something. 33 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Professional children in school? So it's for pretty much kids 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 3: who had like day jobs. 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Essentially. 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 3: It was a lot of Juilliard musicians, a lot of 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: School of American Ballet ballet dancers. 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: But you grew up in New York. 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm born and raised there. 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Okay, seven siblings, I'm. 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: Third of seven, so six siblings, holy shit, yeah crazy, 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: I have four brothers. Yeah, so yeah, we're raising two 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: boys over here. And yeah, when I was a little 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: worried that, like you know, like Dak kind of didn't 45 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: really like Carson at first and this and then ago, honey, 46 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: don't worry about it, like you know, take it from me. 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: Tons of brothers, It's going to be fine. Like the 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: so once the little one starts walking and talking and 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: able to play and stuff like that. You know, like 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: then they're gonna be just fine, and now they're they're 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: best buds. 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you have amazing insight into all that, 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: and you never know how it's all going to roll 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: out either, you know, I mean you especially having that 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: many siblings there, there are probably so many different relationship dynamics. 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, yes, yeah, I know, yeah, you know, and 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: sometimes like one of my siblings, I remember, we didn't 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: speak for about this is the adults for like eight 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: months over a game of Monopoly. You know, we're in 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: our twenties, you know what I mean. It's like I'm 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: mad about the wording of the rules, you know, was 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: just like you know, like you know, yeah, so let's 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: just say that's the last time I played Monopoly with them. 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah wait so you so you how so? So there's 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: four boys, three girls? 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: Uh no, five boys. I'm a four brothers plus me 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: as five. 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh, five boys, two girls? 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah? 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: And where are you in the third? You're the third 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: and above you is all is boys. 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: No, no, it's brother and sister. And then Kieren's right 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: below me. So and we're all we're all pretty much, 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: almost exactly two years apart. My older brother and sister, 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: they're they're actually born in the exact same day, two 76 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: years apart. So yeah, there's seven kids and six birthdays, 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: you know. 78 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's that's really odd. 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: Well, actually, I can tell you the I just one 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five point four, Yes. 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: Exactly, so so so so your mom must have started young. 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, she started pretty young. Uh, let's see by the time. Yeah, 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: I think I was like she had me when she 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: was about twenty five, and so she probably started when 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: she was about twenty one zero. Where every every two years, 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, they're exactly two years apart on 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: two years two months, My karents two years one month, 88 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: you know, my sister's two years two months, like pretty much. 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: I think they kept on doing it around Christmas time 90 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: it's cold and she had nothing better to do in 91 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: New York City, right, It's just like, yes, they all 92 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: were kind of around the same time, about nine months after, 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: you know, nine months after it was cold. 94 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: And how did how did your how did your parents 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: raise you with that many children? Meaning was it a 96 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: lot of like, hey, you know what you're gonna have 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: to take care of yourself. 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: You know, there's definitely a lot of that. Yeah, it 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: was definitely a little bit kind of like all right, 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: kids a go and again like you know, you get 101 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: this next one to take care of. So yeah, we 102 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: were a bit a bit feral, I would say, bit feral. 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Especially in the right because you were able to just walk, 104 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: you just cruise around the city, right, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, and. 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: Back then even it's kind of like yeah, like you know, 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: I'm six years old and I'm walking ten blocks to 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: school by myself, like that would never let a six 108 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: year old walk ten blocks in Never in a million years. Crazy. 109 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing what we did you know, or what 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: we were allowed to do or it was just normal 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: that we wouldn't do now. 112 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: No, yeah, it was just it was just a style 113 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: of the time back in my day. Yeah, we're in 114 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: that place in our lives, you know. Yeah, yeah, I 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: wish it. 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Was still like that. 117 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's the more we know, the more fear we have. 118 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: I Mean, the truth is is I think you know, 119 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: at least la is less, is more safe than it's 120 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: ever been, But we have more fear than we've ever had, 121 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, because everything is so right here we see 122 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: it access. 123 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: We have so much true crime to watch and listen 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: to you and stuff like that. You know, it gets 125 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: it gets there just yeah, it cuts you like a 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: paper cut and next thing you know, you're just covered 127 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: in paper cuts. Now you're just like, I'm going to 128 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: avoid paper all together. 129 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Ye, well how did your was your were your parents artists? 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: No? No, My my mom was a telephone operator at night. 132 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: Uh and my father was a sacristine at a church. 133 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: So he's pretty much it almost like a way of 134 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: saying janitor. But he helped set up masks and things 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: like that as well as maintain the church. And so 136 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: that's that's what we did. That's what that's what we're 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: able to go to Catholic school for free pretty much. 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: And how did you so? So did you You all 139 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: lived together, all seven kids in New York City. 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: In a one bedroom apartment. Yeah, so they were they 141 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: were they were stacking us in bunk beds and stuff 142 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: like that. Like you yeah, like we were like we 143 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: were like we're like a can of sardines, nine nine people, 144 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: one bedroom apartment. 145 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, you know, was it hard to feed all 146 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: you guys? 147 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: I mean this? 148 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't. 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: We didn't always have we didn't always have a we 150 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: didn't always we were we were we were definitely a 151 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: food poor. Uh. The lights weren't always on, the heat 152 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: wasn't always on, you know, things like that, like you know, 153 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: sometimes we didn't have the gas on. It was it 154 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: was definitely we were. We were struggling there for a 155 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: long time. 156 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: And religion was religion. 157 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Big wasn't even know we weren't religious, but you know, 158 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: we didn't get baptized and did I did do my 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: first communion. I've done a couple of sacraments, but uh, 160 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: but yeah, but it's also a lot of it just 161 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: kind of keeping up appearances, you know for the school. 162 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: They were really a religious family. You know, yeah we 163 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: were there artists. 164 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: Were there artists in your family? I know you and 165 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: your brother, But was it was it was just something 166 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: that permeated. 167 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: Uh no, not really listen. I just had a lot 168 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: of energy. It was what it was. And it was 169 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: actually my my father was taking up my older brother 170 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: and sister to go take some headshots, like in the 171 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: park or something like that. And my mom, I think, 172 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: just because whatever, I think she wanted a break because 173 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: she was probably taking care of like three other kids. 174 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: She was like, just take Mac with you, just take them, 175 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, so uh uh and then next you know, 176 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: I literally like just I booked the first thing I 177 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: went out for. I booked the second thing I went 178 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: out for, and the third thing, and this and that 179 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: and then you know, next. 180 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Because you're the cutest baby ever. 181 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 182 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: You were so cute before we get into how cute 183 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: he is still but the way I was, no, but 184 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: but so you you booked the things that you got. 185 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: But was it your mom, you know, who said well 186 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: we're going to put you into this world or you 187 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 2: have desires to do it? 188 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: No? No, I mean kind of just started happening a 189 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: little bit. The dominoes felt pretty fast. And like I said, 190 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: we were, you know, we didn't really have a lot 191 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: of money, and I'll listen, I can start bringing some money. 192 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: So then they then you know, then kind of became 193 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: an opportunity and so uh then my father kind of 194 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: just grabbed the reins. It was kind of like, you know, 195 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: go go yeah. But you know, like like I said, 196 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: early on, look I did some studio theater, the Ensemble 197 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 3: Studio Theater in New York, and uh, Uh, it's like, 198 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: you know, next thing, you know, I'm getting a glowing 199 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: review in the New York Times and so it's kind 200 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 3: of just like things like that. So it's kind of 201 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: like they try to like just kept on just doing 202 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: it and doing it. So I pretty much just did 203 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: like a lot of studio theater. Uh. I did like 204 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: one or two commercials, but it was like literally just 205 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: straight into movies and then I started booking and booking 206 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: and booking, and then you know, like within about within 207 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: the first two years, I'm working with you know, John 208 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: Hughes and John Candy and stuff like that, and then 209 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: it just like off to the races like for me 210 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 3: like that, like for me, like it all kind of 211 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: made like that made sense to me. It's like, you know, 212 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 3: you start small and you build, and you build and 213 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: you build, and it's like, yeah, then you become a 214 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 3: big star. Yeah, that's the that's the hero's journey. You 215 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: know that that makes sense for my you know, that's 216 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: that's what Luke Skywalker does. You know, the logic makes 217 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: sense to to to a six seventy eight year old 218 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 3: that kind of Yeah, what was your first movie? It 219 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: was called Rocket Gibraltar. Uh, it's actually I think it's 220 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: a Burt Lancaster. I think it might even be his 221 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: last movie. And but it was a lot of New 222 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: York theater actors at the time, so you know, I 223 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: was doing a lot of studio theater at the time. 224 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: It was like Bill Pullman, Kevin Spacey, Patricia Clarkson, stuff 225 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: like that. But all like this is like you were 226 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: talking nineteen eighty six, you know, so we're all like, 227 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: you know, it's unknowns and it's about like a family 228 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: reunion kind of thing. You know, it's cute, it's cute. 229 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: It's actually showed some of it to uh Brenda during 230 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: the pandemic and she was like, oh my god, I'm six, 231 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: so I'm even cute. Who were mine? And I think 232 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: she said next, I think she's pregnant at the time too, 233 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: so she's like rubbing her belly, going, oh, walk is 234 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: you too? And I'm like, of course, like it's gonna 235 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: be cute. 236 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wow. So then how long had you 237 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: been working before you booked Home Alone? 238 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: I started like doing stuff when I was six. I 239 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: started I did Home Alone when I was nine, so 240 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: about three years, you know, and at that point that 241 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: was probably about my sixth or seventh movie. Like I 242 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: was doing like two movies a year, you know. Plus 243 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: also I was also dancing ballet professionally too. I went 244 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: to the school American Ballet s A B. So I 245 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: would do a season there and then uh, well I 246 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: would do a season there and then I go off 247 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: and do Uncle Buck, and then I come back, I 248 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: do another season there, and I go off and do 249 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: Home alone, you know, and like things like that. So 250 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: like so like Uncle Buck was in theaters and was 251 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: doing ballet on Lincoln Center, like you know, like that 252 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: kind of thing. Like you know, it was just it 253 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: was just that the you know, I mean, I enjoyed dancing. 254 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: I was good at it, but it was also uh 255 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: the parts, and the money was coming in fast on 256 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 3: the other side. So you know, we pretty much dropped. 257 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: That well with the money situation and your parents and 258 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: you know, you being sort of the cash cow. How 259 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: did that work? Was it pretty easy? Pasy? 260 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm just a kid, and I 261 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: do the work, you know what I mean. Like, I mean, 262 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: it wasn't you know, those kinds of dynamics. 263 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: But you found yourself coming out of sort of poverty 264 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: and you're eating regularly and shit is expanding. 265 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, yeah, no, of course it's very funny. 266 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, one year, I'm eating out of 267 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: can so the next thing I know, you know, we're 268 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel. But again 269 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: that's kind of you don't know any better, Like you know, 270 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: you have to remember your kid, so you don't really 271 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 3: have a perspective on these kind of things, right, you know, 272 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, it's like your question, you're older, you 273 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: can come. 274 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Is this where my money's going down? 275 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? But you know the dish, no, the student for 276 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: those But did you know that you were the source 277 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: of this, not that you were you know, did you 278 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: have I did you know? 279 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. But also like, uh, but. 280 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: There was no pressure. There was like I'm the guy 281 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: who's doing it. 282 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 3: But I do not until later, not until later. And 283 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: again that's when you start getting getting older, having more 284 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: perspective and things like that. But also like you know, 285 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: they were very good about like not telling me how 286 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: much I was making. It was like that, and so 287 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: you know, again it's not like they didn't want me 288 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: to going to school, going like hey, guy, I'm just 289 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: mad a million dollars, like, you know, they were very 290 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: good about kind of trying to keep that kind of aside. 291 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: I mean, it really wasn't until I was eighteen. I 292 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: turned eighteen, and I called it the piece of paper. 293 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: The piece of piece of paper meeting. So I sat 294 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: down with my business manager and he like literally just 295 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: slides a piece of paper like up like the downside, 296 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 3: you know, don and slides and just that here's a 297 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: breakdown and everything. And that was the first time I 298 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: actually got a perspective of how much I had earned 299 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: over the years. Yeah, it was very funny. My feeling 300 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: was very funny. It was just I felt like some 301 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: kid worked really really hard and I inherited his money. 302 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: Like I was kind of disassociated from it at that 303 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: point because also that at that point I hadn't I quit. 304 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: I'd been quit for about four or five years at 305 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: that point. So yeah, I was just kind of living life. 306 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: I just went to high school and stuff like that, 307 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: like I was just trying to you know, so again, 308 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: so I was very disassociated from that money kind of thing. 309 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: And then I said, I almost had a weird survivers 310 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: skuilt about it. Even though it's my money, Like it 311 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: was very strange. 312 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: That's fascinating because it's like, you know, I would assume, 313 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it was so huge, and I know this 314 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: sounds maybe weird, but but I think it's similar. Like 315 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: remember when Leo did Titanic and he was just exploded. Yeah, 316 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think that was I would say, just 317 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: because I'm you're around your age, that that was you 318 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: and home alone. 319 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: It was so huge, it was it was quite a 320 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: big deal. I mean, you know, I mean you're saying yeah, 321 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: and you know it was a big deal. It was. 322 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 3: It was the number one movie for thirteen weeks. 323 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: Wow. 324 00:13:59,760 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 325 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 5: Yeah. 326 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: It's like you know, like you know, you're like given 327 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: the big movies now only get two weeks. 328 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 329 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it must have been so incredibly like to 330 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: be that age and did not really have the understanding 331 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: of like fame, it must have been a bit jarring. 332 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit jarring. But at the same time, again, 333 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: it was a little bit of like, yeah, of course, 334 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: like you know, I'm doing movies, so eventually I'm going 335 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: to be a movie star. Yeah, you know, there was 336 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of that kind of simplistic logic. Y. Yeah, 337 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: it was a simplicit kind of nine year old, ten 338 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: year old kind of just like looking at go yeah, 339 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: like yeah, it's a big deal. Again, this is what 340 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: happens to everybody, you know, like like you know, who 341 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: really does it, you know, drives and stuff like that. 342 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: It's like, no, I mean I was very lucky. Listen. 343 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: If I was a year older or a year younger, 344 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, my whole life would be 345 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: like completely different because I would have been the wrong 346 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: age for that. Like, you know, I was the right age. 347 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of stories lined up for that. 348 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: You know. Look, I'm not stupid. 349 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Were you humble or was there a part of you 350 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 2: because you did have this sort of you know, expectation 351 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: of this is the natural progression where we're like, yeah, 352 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: fuck yeah, I'm king ship right now. 353 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I definitely I definitely wasn't like braggadocious 354 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: or anything like that. But I always had an inherent 355 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: coffiness to it. I mean I think that's kind of 356 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: why I you know, I was able to do a 357 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: lot of things like that like that. That's some of 358 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: the appeal was that I was kind of this very 359 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: confident kid, you know, like like you know, even borderline copy. 360 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: But but but I never like went to school and 361 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: like flaunted that kind of stuff. And it's like a 362 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: movie star. If anything. It was everyone else that was 363 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: being weird of course, like you know, like you know, 364 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: like I remember, like, but fine, I remember I was 365 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: I was in Catholic school, and I was like this kid, James. 366 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: We never hung out, never talked or anything like that, 367 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: like you know, and there's this is like a Catholic school. 368 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: There's like forty kids and like there's like a like 369 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: a cattle car of kids and every but he also like, hey, 370 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: uh can I walk you home to school from school? 371 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: Or like uh yeah, sure, James. And so we're walking 372 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: and then he just starts asking me questions about like 373 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: so how do you get an agent? And you know, 374 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: like so how did you do this? I was like, okay, 375 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: you're being weird about this, all right? Yeah, like oh 376 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: like yeah, oh now we're friends because you because you 377 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: want me to tell you how to get an agent, 378 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: like you're being weird. 379 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: Sure, of course, I'm sure it sharpened you though, you know, 380 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: just as far as just the human condition goes and 381 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: how you're how you perceive people, because you've had you've 382 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: had to sort of weed out the truth, the real people, 383 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: the authentics, and then the. 384 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: Always say people say, oh, you have an old soul. 385 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: I said, I don't. I don't have an old soul. 386 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: My soul is just old right like an age. Life 387 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: has done it. 388 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Really, I wonder like, did you did you feel, because, 389 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: like you said, you you kind of quit you kind 390 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: of like WHOA, Well, let's start with this. How were 391 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: your blings with your stardom so young, Like did it 392 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: affect your relationships with them in any way? 393 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, to a certain extent. Yeah, I mean my older 394 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: brother was always protective of me and stuff. But you know, 395 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: it was tricky because again I was kind of away 396 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: like a lot. I was away almost like half the year, 397 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: and so it was tricky. Like you know, this happened 398 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: also like even with like school, with schoolmates, but mostly 399 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: with my family. I felt it the most was I'd 400 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: be gone for like you know, three or four months 401 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: or something like that, and I'd come back and they 402 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: would have like all new kind of like inside jokes 403 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: and kind of like new things that were into and 404 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: sometimes they weren't necessarily keen to plug me into that 405 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: kind of stuff, you know, like, oh, this is our 406 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: stuff that we're doing over here, like you missed it. 407 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 3: You should have been there, like you know, that kind 408 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: of stuff. So that kind of thing, you know. But 409 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: again that's kind of like you know, of course, you know, 410 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: seven and eight year olds are not going to be 411 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: sensitive to know those kind of feelings, you know. And 412 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: I don't have the or emotional vocabulary too to engage 413 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: in that kind of way either. So that's so funny. 414 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: I had that. I never thought of that like that, 415 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: like I I because we up until middle school, we 416 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: would go with our mom and then we would we 417 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: were back and forth between Colorado and Los Angeles. So 418 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: like I, maybe Oliver didn't, but I always felt like 419 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: that a little bit too, Like I'd come back and 420 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: I felt just on the outside, you know, and I wasn't, 421 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have the investment of that connection. 422 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't blame them for not because 423 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: they have their thing that they do. I blame At 424 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: the same time, it was also a little weird, you know. 425 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, there there's always competition among siblings, 426 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: whether it be healthy or unhealthy. There you know, there 427 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: is that, there is there is envy, there is jealousy 428 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: and and. 429 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: And especially that you're talking about siblings. I was talking 430 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: about school, but. 431 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: A similar kind of thing though, like exactly the way. 432 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: And then come back and everyone's wat I never even 433 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: heard of you know that they're not. 434 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: Going to tell me, but specifically with their siblings, it's like, 435 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: all right, well he's got all that ship, we have 436 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: this and this is our thing. 437 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 438 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it was that kind of pettiness. 439 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 3: I think it was just done. 440 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you made it sound so terrible. 441 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Well let's get your siblings on and I feel like 442 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: I might be right. 443 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: You know, they're all they're all on the East coast 444 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: right now. I'm the only West Coaster. I'm actually the 445 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: only one who ever really lived outside of New York. 446 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: Everyone else is New York. Yeah, yeah, and I'm the 447 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: one like like, you know, I lived in you know, 448 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: I've lived out here. This is my second stint living 449 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: out here. Yeah. I lived in London for a year. 450 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: I lived in Paris for five years. Like I'm always like, 451 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: you know, I'm you know, at one point I was 452 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: just kind of a tramp homes where my boots were, 453 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: you know, like that kind of thing. 454 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Where's your favorite? 455 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: I love living here now, I mean, of course, listen, 456 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: I have a beautiful home, but it's not about the home. 457 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: It's what's inside of it. And you know, run down 458 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: the boys and all of a sudden, this is the best, right, 459 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: you know. But outside of that, out to say I 460 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: loved Paris, like Paris was great, Like, yes, I had 461 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: a really great flat there. 462 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: So what made you decide to just why'd you quit? 463 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: Oh? I was tired, man, I was so tired. And 464 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: the thing is is that I remember when I was 465 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: probably about eleven or twelve, I remember talking to my 466 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: father and I said, I'm getting tired, like I think 467 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: I need a break, and he goes, yeah, yeah, I'll 468 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: look into it and do the next thing. I was 469 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: in the next thing, the next thing. I was like, 470 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: oh I'm stuck now, I'm stuck before. And it's the 471 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: thing I could even see like in my performances and 472 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: just my general air and stuff like that, like it 473 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: was just like it was just kind of I didn't. 474 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: I didn't really I felt trapped. So now I it 475 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: started feeling a job and a chore. Was before it 476 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: was fun and I felt natural and things like that, 477 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: and so it kind of I kind of took the 478 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: wind own of my sails. And so what I turned 479 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: to fourteen, my dad and my mom are having a 480 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: having a thing. They would kind of split out, and 481 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: I said, great, I quit, because now he's out of 482 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: picture of the great I quit. I said, I you know, 483 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: I hope you guys had a good time. I hope 484 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: I hope you guys all made as much money as 485 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: you possibly could, because there's no more coming from me. 486 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: And uh, and that was it. 487 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: I took. I started taking, you know, I started taking 488 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: ownership of myself. And so yeah, that's pretty much what 489 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: I did, you know. And I just I was like 490 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: everyone kept on saying, oh, you know, you're fourteen going 491 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: on forty, and I go, no, I want to be 492 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: fourteen going on fifteen. That's what I wanted to do. 493 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: And so that's what I did. So, you know, I 494 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: went to high school and you know, I got married again. 495 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 3: I did all kinds of like things, you know, yeah, 496 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: and it's uh, it was lovely. And then all of 497 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: a sudden, I kind of just started getting a bit 498 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: of an inch and so I kind of just did 499 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: my toe back in the water and I did a 500 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: really wonderful play in London I did. I did west 501 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: End for a ready a year and then and then 502 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: uh yeah, and then. 503 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: How long ago was this? When when did that it 504 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: start to sort of this. 505 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: Is about two thousands, about twenty five years ago, okay, yeah. 506 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 3: But also I I've quit many times since then too, 507 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: and actually technically I'm I'm in a state of constant retirement. 508 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: So so I'm retired, Okay, good. Then then I book 509 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: a gig and I retire, and I do that gig 510 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: and as soon as the gig's over, I retire again. 511 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: So it's a good philosophy. 512 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: Because it's a great mentality. 513 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like there's no sweat on me. That's 514 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: oh I need this career kind of thing. And also 515 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 3: I treat every gig like the last gig I'm ever 516 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: going to do, because you know, I'm going to retire. 517 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: So I'm going to do that from now. It's a 518 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: good headspace to be in because there you're not you're 519 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: not stressing, you're not searching, you're not anticipating. It's like, no, 520 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: I've retired. 521 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: Great. It's also because I because you know, I was like, 522 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: oh you got me at a retirement to. 523 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Do this right. It's also it also has a kind 524 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: of a like it's a good way of thinking for 525 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: an industry that's just so tumultuous and unpredictable continuously. 526 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, yeah, they're like. 527 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: Instead of being like, oh, I'm so reliant on this, 528 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: it's like I'm never relying, I'm. 529 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: Never going to work again. 530 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, theired my whole life. 531 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: I've more time for my kids. You know. 532 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you quit and you're still at home, so 533 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: it's not like you quit you're emancipated and you're living 534 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: on your own, but you're like, sorry, guys, I'm doing 535 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: my own fucking thing. I'm fourteen. This is my choice. 536 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 3: Now. 537 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: Was there ever any animosity or any sort of well 538 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: what are you doing? 539 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: Like we need you? 540 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: Or were your parents just kind of like hey, great. 541 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: No, we were we were we were pretty well set. Uh. Also, 542 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 3: my parents were kind of going through uh right, yeah, 543 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: but going to like it wasn't like a divorce because 544 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: they weren't married, but it's kind of a custody trial 545 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: kind of thing. Uh, So they were they were busy 546 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: doing that. They're all tangled up with each other, you know, yeah, 547 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: fighting they're too busy fighting each other to job you 548 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: go go after meet really and yeah, honestly, there's also 549 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: there was like yeah, I wasn't like emancipated, so like yeah, 550 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: but also, like I said, I had a certain metap autonomy, 551 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: like they're like, oh, you're going to do this movie. 552 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: But at that point I go, no, fuck you, what 553 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 3: are you gonna do? Yeah, like you know, like yeah, 554 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, I remember it was during the whole custing thing. 555 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: I wanted nothing to do with my fucking father, like 556 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: he was just the worst. And the judge was like, 557 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: well you have to, you know, you have you have 558 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: to do visitations with him, and essentially so so I 559 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: didn't do this. I didn't say to the judge I 560 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: was I was sweat. I was a smartests but I 561 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: wasn't that much of a smart aess. But I told 562 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: my lawyer I said, yeah, I'm not doing that. He's like, well, 563 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: you know, you'll be into content of court and this 564 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: and that. I go, okay, well how about this. I 565 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: dare the judge to put me in jail for not 566 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: wanting to visit his abusive father. Yeah, And I also 567 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: I actually I'm going to double down on that I 568 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: double dare him to arrest the most famous kid in 569 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: the world. Yea, And I never played that card, you know, 570 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: but that was the one time I kind of played 571 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: that card kind of go yeah yeah, and it's like yeah, 572 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: next thing, you know, it's like what are you gonna do? 573 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 3: So it's one of the same thing. It's like, oh, 574 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: what do they try to force to go back to work? 575 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, what if I said no? Yeah, you know, 576 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: because I can really embarrass you guys, So. 577 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: You don't talk to your dad all. 578 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to him, and what would it be 579 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 3: about thirty something years? Oh yeah, yeah, oh he did. 580 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: He deserves it too. You know, he's a man who 581 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: has he had seven kids and now he has four 582 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: grandkids and uh none of them want anything to do 583 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: with him. 584 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 585 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: You know. So I would know as as a man 586 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: myself that I would know that I fucked up. I 587 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: really I must have done something wrong. And I have 588 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: more than an inkling that he does not feel that way, right, 589 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: like we're wrong and he's right, Like he's one of 590 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: those kind of like narcissistic crazy people. Uh So it's 591 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: kind of like yeah, like but also me and him 592 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: were always button heads. Like I said, he was a 593 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: bad man. Uh, And I just always knew because I 594 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: would take I would take his whoopings and stuff like that. 595 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: But it was I knew, uh the whole time. I 596 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: was sitting there, going, oh, I'm gonna win. At the end, 597 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: I just to sit sight. I'll take the whippons, you know. 598 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: But I know at some point, like I'm going to 599 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 3: have that slip of paper meeting and I'm going to 600 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: just I'm just going to also outlast him, you know, 601 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm going to win. 602 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: Do you even know if he's alive? 603 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: As far as I know, he's alive. Yeah. 604 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: And this is all siblings, all siblings, ever, every one 605 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: of them. No one has any contact. 606 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: As far as I know. I think my older brother 607 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: had some had some contact with him, ye at one point. 608 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 3: But I think that that turns our pretty fast again. 609 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, holy ship. Well, at 610 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: least you guys are all here. He gave you all life, 611 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: and that's that's you know what I mean. 612 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: It's one of my earliest memories of him was when 613 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: I grew up. This this is how I'm not going 614 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: to be with my kids. And now I got kids 615 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: in my own. It's like, you know, it makes me 616 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: even more kind of like, you know, it kicks up 617 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: some dust, you know, and I kind of go, you know, 618 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: like I can't believe he was like that. You know, 619 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: all these lovely kids and talented kids too, like you know, like, 620 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, like the thing is, he had a certain 621 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: amount of resentment towards me, I think is what it was. 622 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: Is because he he wanted to be an actor, and 623 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: he kind of did some stuff. He literally got as 624 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: far as like Horus on Broadway, you know, and and 625 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: then he did some ballet to and so then you know, 626 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, he has this kid that 627 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: to like that didn't look anything like him. To be honest, 628 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: I look a lot like my mother. I don't look 629 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: like her. And uh and I right out of the 630 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: bat just was like I instantly got like the lead 631 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: stuff in the ballet company. I instantly booked all these 632 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: things like that. And I think he I think he 633 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: I think he resented me for that. I think he 634 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: kind of hated me a little bit for that, and 635 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: so I think that's why he kind of was a 636 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: little bit harsh with. 637 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: Me, isn't it amazing though. You know how you can 638 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: go one of two ways, which is you are unconsciously 639 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: following these patterns or imitating these patterns that your father, 640 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: you know, laid upon you, or you rail against them. 641 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: He lead them out and I just did them. Well, 642 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: you made the choice, was good at them, you know, 643 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: that's sure. 644 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I'm saying. I'm saying 645 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: you made the choice to say, I'm never going to 646 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: be like my fucking dad. 647 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of my earliest memories. Yeah, it was 648 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: because he, like I said, he was the son of 649 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: a bitch, you know, he was. He was just he 650 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: was bad to his kids, he was bad to his life. 651 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: He was bad. He was the worst person I've ever 652 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: known in my entire life, you know. 653 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, Oh, I know, I know. It's like 654 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: an old I always say, you know, these things are 655 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: forty year old problems, right, like you've dealt with them 656 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: for so long, and but it's still just like when 657 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: you hear it, you hear those stuff, it just it's 658 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: never always just for me as someone who can empathize differently, 659 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: but you know, in a different way. But I just 660 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: it just sucks. 661 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it super sucks, you know, Yeah, it sucks, 662 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: but it makes me the man I am today. Yeah, 663 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be the man. I wouldn't be the father 664 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: I am today if it wasn't for my experiences, you know. 665 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, but listening, you know, and again 666 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I was like, I'm 667 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: going to win, and here I am. Yeah, I'm on 668 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: your show. So clearly I'm a winner. 669 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: But did all the siblings have such a healthy experience? 670 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you obviously, you know, I have a great 671 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: you know, I took a big brunt of it because 672 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 5: it was a lot of times it was just when 673 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: I was on the road doing things, it was just 674 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: me and him, so I was locked in a room 675 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: with a crazy person. 676 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: So I really took the brunt of it for the family. 677 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: But you know, they listen, they got they got their 678 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: licks too. And look I said it was he was 679 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: a bad guy just across the board. 680 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what about Mom? What about Mom? 681 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Well, you know, she she she eventually got married. She 682 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: got married about like about maybebout fifteen years ago. She's 683 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: living on a ranch in Montana. She's a rancher's wife. 684 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, because she's originally for North Dakota. So she's 685 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: kind of going, you know, going back to the to 686 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: the the planes and just know that's how she's kind 687 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: of living on her twilight years kind of thing. You know. 688 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: She just took the book always for out there to 689 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: go see her and stuff, you know, and so so yeah, 690 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: so it was like yeah they I was like, did 691 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: you have a good time? They're like, uh yeah. It 692 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: was like this because they were old enough to start 693 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: because Brenda's mom lives with us, so they have a 694 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: grandma and they're like on a day to day. So 695 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: they started asking about my mom and so I was like, 696 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, let's get on a plane and go over there. 697 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: So they're like it was it's good. You know, it's 698 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: good to see you, you know Papa's mama. Yeah, yeah, 699 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: do you have a good time? They go it was boring, 700 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: like you guys, you guys get to pet a horse 701 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: and they're like, yep, that's about the only thing we did. 702 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: Was like yeah, you're right, that's life from Montana. Just 703 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: get pedal horse and then that's it's all you got. Yeah, yeah, 704 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: you know, but sometimes you know, I remember one time 705 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: she was kind of moaning about her time out there, 706 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: because you know, she she did enjoy New York City, 707 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: but she was like, she goes, there's something about Montana. 708 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: I was like, what, what's bothering you? And she's like, oh, 709 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: you know, like you know, I have to like I 710 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: get up in the morning and then like you know, 711 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: I put on the clothes and then you know, I 712 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: get in the car and I dried the grocery store 713 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: and then get my stuff. I get online, I pay 714 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: for everything, I take it home and I put my 715 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: groceries away. It's just like so tedious. I go, wow, 716 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: you do that in New York. I don't know, is 717 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: there I was waiting for the turn. I think she 718 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: just kind of gets. I think she can get. She 719 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: feed every once in a while, you know that kind 720 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: of thing, but kind of like like that happens in 721 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: New York too. What are you talking about? Except except 722 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: minus the car part? I guess you know, Yeah, is 723 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: your what. 724 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Are all your other siblings do? When we know that 725 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Kiaran just won an Oscar, which is amazing. 726 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, between Kieran and I we have one Oscar. 727 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Yeah. We we also have an emmy, a globe, 728 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: a bath to critics of the sag. You know, yeah, yeah, Rory. 729 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: Rory actually works pretty consistently. He does a lot of 730 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: like just weird indie things and that he does a 731 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: lot of weird, kooky things. 732 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I just saw him in something. 733 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: He probably he works more than me and Kieran combined. 734 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: Like he does a lot of projects. Okay, okay, He's 735 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: always putting stuff out there. He was just like, did 736 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: the movie Mayhem? I think it was called that that 737 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: that that that, like that Swedish band with like you 738 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: know that the golf band the guitarist killed, the killer killed. Yes, yes, uh, 739 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: let's see. Uh. My sister she is a chef. Look, 740 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: you know that's what she does. She went to the 741 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: French Culinary Institute, so she does that. She just started 742 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: on Instagram, where you know those ones kind of like 743 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: you teach the recipe but it's like really like quick 744 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: kind of thing and then you try it. She like 745 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: wings at the camera, likesion right. 746 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: Now because I love to cook and so does Kate. 747 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: So there's always my Instagram fee. 748 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Is filled with those what what is her Instagram? 749 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: Her name is Quinn. She's Quinn K Cocaine. 750 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to follower, Yes Quinn, Yes Quinn instead of 751 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: Queen Quinn. So is your plan to just you know, 752 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: work and then retire and then un retire and retire 753 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: is the idea? Yeah? 754 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: Pretty much? You know. I mean sometimes, like you know, 755 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: like a you said, I got the call on Friday 756 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: that I was working Monday, and the whole weekend I'm 757 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: running the two kids around to like you know, birthday 758 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: parties and stuff like that, And yeah, I'd be lying 759 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: if I didn't say I had a bit of an 760 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: existential crisis or I was kind of just like can 761 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: I do this with two like little kids right now? 762 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: Because like the whole time, I'm trying to find some 763 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: time to work on my stuff. And yeah, by the time, 764 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: like you know, by the time we get home from everything, 765 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: I'm just absolutely wiped and like you know, I have 766 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: to I have to like lay down for half an 767 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: hour before I can do anything. And I would I'd 768 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: be lying if I didn't say, like I had a 769 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: bit of an existential crisis this weekend. Yeah, So you know, 770 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: I go with the wind blows when it comes to 771 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, Like you know, it's that's something 772 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time actively pursuing a lot 773 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: of times these things kind of fall into your lap. 774 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: Still love it though, I mean I enjoyed the work itself, 775 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: Yes I don't. I don't always enjoy the pursuit of it. Yeah, 776 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: you know, and like you know, the muck that comes 777 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: with it and just kind of you know that it 778 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: could be a drag, you know. And so yeah, and 779 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: I listen, I I've made my I've made my mark, 780 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: I've made my name. I have nothing to prove to nobody, 781 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, So you know, I do it for the love, 782 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: you know. I do it for you know, for the 783 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: fun of it. So you know, if something sounds fun, 784 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: it comes, it comes, you know. 785 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: So your dad, you're Dad number one, and then you retire, 786 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: and you and retire. 787 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: Which is great because we have another season running point. 788 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: Yes indeed, yeah, we need you. 789 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: We need you with the kids holding up for it 790 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: because you know how Brenda gets like on set, it's like, 791 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I gonna do? And I 792 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: have a feel and I'm like, it's fine, it's all 793 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: going to work out. It's all going to be good. 794 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, it always works out. That that's 795 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: just her way. She she she has to do that. 796 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: She has to. Anxiety is kind of woven into her 797 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: DNA a little bit, and that's kind of a part 798 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: of her her process. You know, just generally, you know, 799 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: so they so, but you know, she she's good. I 800 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: chill her out, don't worry about it. 801 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 2: But is there is there any something else that sort 802 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: of gets you going? You know what I mean? Like 803 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: you're an actor, your dad, but you know, is there 804 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: is there something where you're like, I fucking love doing this. 805 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: Uh you know, I what I say. What I say 806 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 3: is I don't have time for hobbies or habits or 807 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 3: or or even new friends. I'm kind of in that 808 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 3: phase simply because I have you know, both my kids 809 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: are under four years old. I mean it's very it's 810 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: very you know, they're very tension star and we're very 811 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: hands on with our kids. That's the thing, Like, you know, 812 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: they're there, there's they always have a set of eyes 813 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: on them, like you know, we don't just let them 814 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: cut them loose in the front yard or something like that. Like, yeah, 815 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: they're very there, their precious little faberge eggs. So we 816 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: put a lot of time and energy into them. But 817 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 3: you know, listen, they they're they're very confident, they're very happy, 818 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: they're very smart and well adjusted. They're pretty much almost 819 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: all the things I wasn't when I was a kid. 820 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: You don't have children a lot more. 821 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: Oh, we'll see about that. Well, you know, we always 822 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 3: we always we always take the can down the road. 823 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: You know. It's actually we'll talk about it next year, 824 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: that kind of thing. You know. Honestly, right now, we're 825 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 3: actually in a spot where we actually have some really 826 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: great stability. Both kids are in preschool right now. Uh, 827 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: and we have a good routine. Friend to really starting 828 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: to feel like herself again. 829 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have some time and you have some time 830 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: as a couple too, to like actually be together. 831 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and and you know what she chose 832 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: to do. She chose to Uh, we're doing pilates together. 833 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: I loved that. Oh yeah, man, it is. It is killer. 834 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: It is one of the most humbling experiences in my life. Yeah, 835 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 3: it hurts. I am so tired, I'm so wipe afterwards, 836 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: always out of shape. But I did it was a 837 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: bit out of shape before I started as like I 838 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: need to like, I need to get back to zero 839 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: before you start thinking about doing other things. I was 840 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: definitely starting a negative in the red. Yeah, so I'm 841 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 3: working my way back up there. So yeah, we do 842 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 3: pilates together. Also, she looks really good work out outfits, 843 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: so yeah, that's that's also a nice nice to be 844 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 3: a part of. And so yeah, but also, like I said, 845 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 3: it's humbling. It is absolutely exhausting. I feel totally terrible 846 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: for like that. It's like five hours after every but 847 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: but you know, but again it's so there's like things 848 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: like that that we'll we'll do like but again a 849 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 3: year ago, we wouldn't have the time for that. That's 850 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: so we're starting to kind of find some stability and 851 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 3: a rhythm a little bit. So we're kind of enjoyed 852 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: this for a little while and see how we feel. 853 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: So every time every time she makes pictures of our 854 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: like babies, like when they were infants, or if somebody 855 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 3: like has like a little baby around, it's like I 856 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: can tell she gets her over start aching a little bit. 857 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: And of course now that's when my my overary start 858 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: doing pirouettes. Ye. Yes, Like I held a baby yesterday 859 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: on Sunday and I was just like, oh. 860 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: I know, but then you can give it back and 861 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: you're like all right, I did it three of them. 862 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm good. But overall it seems like you've got you 863 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 2: Your life is just fucking fabulous right now. 864 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really happy and a really great yeah feels 865 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: I feel really good. I probably the best place in 866 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 3: my entire life. 867 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thanks for joining us. This was Your life 868 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: is so fascinating. I honestly could go like much deeper 869 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: into all of these things, and maybe we'll do it again. 870 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: I just bring Quinn on. 871 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love I think you're just you know, 872 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: there's so much that could have gone wrong now that 873 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 2: I've just talked to you for an hour that didn't 874 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: and it seems like you've got such a good head 875 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 2: about you. You know, you would think that because you 876 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: found stardom so young, you would want to chase that, 877 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: and there's some negativity around that, but you're just so 878 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: forward thinking and in the moment, and it's so nice. 879 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: Well I always say, thank of this it was me 880 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 3: and not someone else. 881 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: We'll be talking to you. 882 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 5: You're the best. 883 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. By Oh, he's the best. That 884 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: was so nice. 885 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: I was just happy as he this. 886 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: You'll get there all you'll get there. 887 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 2: No, maybe not, but it's okay. 888 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: I love you. I have to go love you too, Okay. 889 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: Byte