WEBVTT - BearsETC_Web_1.mp3 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.960 Cut over that DJ Moore end zone touchdown, touchdown Bears. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.760 I am Jeff Jonya Litz his ho Donny go R. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.640 What was like playing for Coachi Good. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.439 I don't want to answer any questions like that pressure 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:22.760 coming is a big trouble. Donnie Goes Montest Sweat. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:25.759 Now. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.480 Bears et Cetera brought to you by Geico with the 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.559 voices of the Bears Jeff Jonyac and Tom Thayer with 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.239 Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom theyre. I'm Jeff Joniak 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.480 and this is episode one of the Bears et Cetera 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.000 podcast is brought to you by Geico. We recap at 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.680 thirty to twelve lost in the Minnesota Vikings with an 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.040 eye on the banged up Detroit Lions and their arrival 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.040 at Soldier Field on Sunday. We also have our weekly 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.680 visit with Bears head coach Thomas Brown just around the 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.360 corner Tom good Day, which see on tape. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:53.720 Uh. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.760 You know, effort and that's the thing that was the 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.840 most encouraging thing to me is my thoughts. You saw 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.680 an aggressive front on the defense. Eric Washington did a 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.200 nice job of bringing a bunch of different personnel groupings 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:11.959 in he kind of alternated their kind of expected lineup 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.640 spots inside this defense that made the offensive line adjust 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.080 and exposed Darnold to some big hits, got an interception 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.959 by Tarik and you know things that to me is 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.320 the effort that's encouraging. It's not a team that has 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.559 their car started and their U hauls pack. They're ready 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.119 to go on the field and give the effort that's needed. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.440 And then when you look at the offensive side of 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:40.679 the ball, we're still talking about a developing rookie quarterback 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.600 that has a tremendous upside. Notification that the offensive line 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.680 has to make another adjustment twenty four hours before the 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.040 start of the game. And I've been in those same 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.800 shoes as Toronto Maagaji, a Coronamagaji, and it's it's not 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:58.880 an easy adjustment, but with a you know, a couple 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.440 of plays that if they would have gone the other way, 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:02.760 the whole outcome of. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.840 The game would have been different. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.480 Concerns at all about the frustration that Caleb may be feeling, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.160 he doesn't show it necessarily, as you'll hear in an 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.240 interview with the head coach Thomas Brown. There are snapshots 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.080 that people post that you can define it as frustration. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.040 Of course he's going to have some, but just playing 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.760 the role of survivor at times with the pressure he's 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.000 facing from defenses, and there was pressure. It wasn't a 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.080 lot of doubt of blitzes, but there was still pressure 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:31.400 by the vikings. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.160 So when you go off the field, the first person 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.519 they're going to put a camera on is the quarterback, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.120 especially on Monday Night football, and whatever he does on 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.359 the sideline, you're going to get a reaction from somebody 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.200 in the media on that. But you could probably go 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.240 to six or eight plays during the course of the 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.919 game and you can watch an offensive lineman limping back 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.640 to the huddle. You can watch a defensive lineman that 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.280 has to get some assistance to get off the field, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.360 but two plays later he's back on the field. But 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.120 the quarterback is such a high file position, and Caleb 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.119 is such a high profile guy right now in the NFL, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.280 every move he makes is gonna be on the camera. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.079 And yeah, if you. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.160 Show a little discomfort coming off the field after a season, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.600 someone's gonna highlight it and they're gonna talk about it. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.519 But I think when you take every one of these guys, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.760 some of the hits that we see DJ and Keenan 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.160 in Rome take some of the you know, the other 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:29.600 offensive lineman, defensive players, linebackers, dbs. Everybody is exposed to 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.639 those instances of pain, but they don't have a camera 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.480 on them every move they make. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.880 Tastes like Miller Time. 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I think when if you know Magaji is 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.120 a left tackle moving forward, I think he'll be able 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.960 to implement different types of protections under the difficult down 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.240 and distance, the third and extremely long and this week 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.920 he's going to have the opportunity to be a completely 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.159 different reacting football player because he's going to be able 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.400 to hear the count out of Caleb and I think 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.360 you'll see a more aggressive, more athletic left tackle than 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.600 an offensive line that's an eighth of a second slower 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.599 off the ball than the defensive line. Because of the 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.960 contributing crowd noise, and to me, if Karan uh is 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.040 going to play again, I'm excited to what he'll do 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.240 in front of a home crowd rather than one of 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.880 the most difficult atmospheres in the last thirty five years 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.520 to play at in Minnesota. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.000 Yeah, as a rare first experience as an NFL starter. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.040 You know, That's the thing about it is, so he 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.240 had twenty four hours notice that he was going to 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.800 be the starting offensive lineman, and I'm just the comparable 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.680 to what my first experience was in that same Minnesota stadium. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.719 The old one was when Kurt Becker got injured in 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.520 the offensive line. Coach Stick Staffold comes up and says, hey, 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.280 you're in the game. So we and you and I 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.560 have talked about this a lot. When you're you're the 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.839 depth of a position, there is not notification that you 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.039 have to go in and you have to be ready 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.520 in an instant's notice. Karan I completely believe that he's 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.960 ready to play mentally, physically and everything that he's worked 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.920 through when he showed up with an injury. But and 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.600 I do think that he has a tremendous upside when 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.919 he finally decides what position he's ultimately gonna play. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.320 HAVENUW or gently used coach land around well. Head to 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.000 your local jewelasco until February tenth and donate one of 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.440 your new or gently used coach to the thirty sixth 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.080 annual Chicago Bears Coach Drive helped keep Chicagoans warm this 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.839 winter time. Now for our status at House with Bears 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.719 intermed coach Thomas Brown. All right, thank you very much 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.119 Thomas for joining us once again a status at House 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.360 with the head coach? Hey, what's what's this for you 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:00.920 right now? 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:01.400 Yeah? 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.520 I'm not gonna lie. I'm always an honest person. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.919 It's frustrating because I feel good about the prep that 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.640 we put in, the messaging in the building and then 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.240 not being able to get the desired result on the 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.760 football fields always a frustrating part. But I am also 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.560 still encouraged by the flight of our football team, the 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.760 fact that we still continue to keep showing up. Our 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.479 guys are positive in the building and in the mix 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.320 of everything that's going on, we're still find ways to 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:26.960 stay united. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.040 How do you find ways to diffuse your frustration and 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.320 not let players suffer the same kind of affliction? You know, 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.120 and something like. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.400 This, Yeah, I mean I get it. Out of my system. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.880 I'll talk about it, and I think being able to 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.719 have games kind of back to back help with that process. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.040 Got to be able to move on and get ready 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.800 for the next opponent, so you can't dwell on it. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.039 That's one of the beauties of the NFL when you're 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.440 in season because it's a week to week process, So 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.720 you try to figure out what you can make the 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.159 corrections from from the previous week, but also what you 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.360 can build upon that was positive and pay it forward 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:02.000 to the next game. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.440 Kind Of a strange question since I've never been in 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.680 a team meeting with the entire team. So when you 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.320 start a season in your position as passing game coordinator 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.640 and move and see all the elevation, So when you 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.200 look out, do you see the same reaction on the 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.920 faces of the players at this point in the season 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.960 when you know their own frustration is bubbling up and 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.680 some guys are vocal about it, some aren't, so they 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.160 kind of keep it inside. I mean, do you have 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.360 to take almost a psychological approach to your job as 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:35.600 well as you scan the room? 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.080 Yeah, well, I think I got did a really good 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.280 job since the moment I've had an opportunity to step 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.200 into this entimal role a few weeks ago of always 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.560 been engaged in meetings. Every time I started meeting, I 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.760 have everybody's eyes, nobody's looking around and wondering, and so 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.960 I do appreciate that attention and focus, but I think 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.880 it comes to me being able to be consistent with 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.680 the message but I delivered to those guys. But again, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.840 I'm always gonna be upfront and honest person, believe in clear, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.680 open and honest communication as we continue to try to 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.120 find ways to work through potential problems but also prepare 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:07.880 for the next opponent. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.720 Do you still have the leadership Council meetings? 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.280 Yes, we have a Captain's meeting every week, So I 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:19.400 meet with those guys before special Teams meetings start every Wednesday, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.400 so I'll meet with them again tomorrow morning. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.400 And so in those meetings they kind of. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.760 Just kind of give a recap of not recap, but 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.800 preview of the of the coming week when it comes 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.640 to the schedules, what the plan is and thought process is. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.280 But also I preview with those guys what the message 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.280 for the group is going to be for this coming opponent. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.920 And also that time I always open the floor for 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.480 those guys give any feedback or communicate with me back 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.320 and forth about if there is anything on their minds, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.319 which they've done a great job of for the most part, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.160 you know. So it's kind of a collabortive effort when 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:51.640 it comes trying to find ways to help lead this 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:52.240 football team. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.040 This is a crazy situation because you know you'd like 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.400 to keep this head coaching job here. Do you feel 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.920 that different a little bit now that you're in this 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.280 position or are you just a veteran that knows, Hey, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.240 everybody's looking at me anyway, so I'm gonna keep being me. 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.080 Yeah, honest, I don't just peru. I've had that same 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.440 thought process most of my career. I think I learned 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.439 early on my first couple of years in coaching that 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.440 everything you do is evaluated by somebody. Obviously, now it's 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.640 on a bigger stage because you're in an interim head 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.280 coach role with everybody listen to your press conferences, watches 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.600 your body language, you're message in front of the group, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.480 They watch how you organize, communicate with players. So of 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.199 course there's more scrutiny when there's coings with more responsibility, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.720 which is it's part of the course but I started 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.400 to just think about it from the standpoint of what 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.240 I can control and be locked in on that. And 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.600 I don't control the future, never had, never will know 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.760 do I try to concern myself control in the future. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.160 I think any time you have an opportunity to take 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.679 over in any capacity, it's obviously normally not for a 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:55.199 good reason. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.920 There's obviously some. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.560 Issues that need to be fixed, and so I understood 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:00.360 kind of walk it into it. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.000 It wouldn't be an easy task at all. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.000 I think it's also totally different when you have a 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.000 chance to, you know, get high as a head coach, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.400 have the entire offseason, you know, build a staff, you know, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.240 pour into the players bitter thing, from the foundation, from 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:13.680 the ground. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.160 Depth is a little bit different than the world that 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:15.960 I'm in right now. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.559 But have complete confidence and the prep that I've done, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.480 but also the guys around me, So I'll continue leaning 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.440 to them and we'll just work at one day to. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.920 Sound all right, let's look at some things football wise. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.640 Something struck me when you met the media earlier in 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.600 the day about a fourth and one, a third and one, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.080 the importance of just getting that one yard in the NFL, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.800 what it does for the mindset of a football team 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.640 from a physicality point of view, to what the offensive 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.679 line is feeling when you entrust them to get that 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.160 one yard and the and the opposite of when it 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.560 doesn't happen, because those can be as big a play 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.720 as any in the NFL, as much as a big 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:54.880 play and explosive play. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:56.240 Yeah, I betely. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.320 I think football is a game of inchest Sometimes life 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:00.800 is the game of it is when it comes to 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.400 how close things already having success and working out but 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.200 still getting have no regrets about the thought process behind it. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.560 Talk to those guys kind of going into the game 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.440 about call them more aggressive game and taking some so 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.800 called chances. Still standing by the thought process and believe 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.320 that we should better get a yard in the NFL 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.920 when it comes to how we execute, and I can 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.840 continue to try to find way to be creative with 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.440 the play call and put us in the best spot 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.640 so we can execute. But definitely, we had two opportunities 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.560 for fourth and wares we stopped on both of those 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.160 and that's something we've got to do a better job of. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:32.720 Correcting and fixing. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.760 But also we talk about being a physical football team, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.520 you can't really talk about being a physical if you 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.000 don't run the football, and also are gonn to be 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:40.840 committed to going forward? 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.240 And when we have this a yard of the game. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.320 Because Troy Aikman did the game, I've always remembered his 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.000 rookie season and he brought it up in the broadcast. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.160 I believe just reading about it. Started eleven games as 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.360 a rookie, lost them all. Two years later he was 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.880 a pro bowler six in a row. So there's some wisdom, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.800 aar and some explanation of how hard this is. Peyton 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.320 Manning led the NFL and interceptions his rookie year, So 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.800 it is a tool an instrument say hey, listen, man, 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.880 this is not There's nothing easy about this, and I'm 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.000 certain that Caleb understands that anyway. But is it a 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.120 good reminder. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.040 Though, that definitely is a good reminder. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.360 I think, you know, most guys have an opportunity when 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.920 they come in have high expectations for themselves, especially when 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.640 you're drafting them one overall and you're starting quarterback, to 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.520 have the bigts of being the champion, of leading the 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.000 football team, of making miraculous plays and and going on 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.720 winning streaks, which is somebody he's definitely capable of and 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.959 we'll be doing for a long time of my opinion. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.760 But also it's still a rookie in the NFL. It's tough. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.000 It's hard deal, and to me, I think it's even 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:49.240 harder in today's world because the expectations places though rookie 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:55.120 quarterbacks by the outside world is like completely unrealistic and it's. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.640 Part of problem. In my opinion. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.200 It won't stop, it's gonna continue to be. How is 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.320 fruit and is highly hyped up. But I think the 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.920 understanding of what it takes to play the position, what 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.640 all goes into it, or the development that it takes, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.400 and it actually takes time to grow and be the 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.360 best version of yourself, and you have an opportunity to 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.640 live it out in front the entire world weekend and 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.160 week out. So I think it takes a lot of 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.760 you know, mental capacity to be able to stay strolling, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.959 to ignore the outside and know where to focus almost 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.600 the most important thing in the team, to try to 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.599 find ways to now be h be harding yourself, but 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.200 also give yourself some grace so you have time room 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:31.720 to grow. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.080 You know, And because of the way the world is 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.520 now with with social media, it can take a clip 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:42.120 off a TV broadcast and it's posted immediately. And so 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.880 the hit on Kala by Jahi Ward as a pretty 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.400 vicious hit goes to the sidelines and he looked like 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.679 he was in pain for whatever the case may be. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.600 But a lot of conclusions are drawn from just that 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.760 three second shot of what you know, Yeah, you're gonna 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.080 have to shake that off, but it kind of paints 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:00.760 a different picture and the reality. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.480 Yeah, I mean, perception is reality even when there's not. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.320 And that's the difficult thing sometimes when it comes to 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.719 life in general. But you mentioned obviously with it be 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.520 in a social media generation, I think a lot of 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.080 times misery loves company. So I think when people have 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.920 issues in their own lives, it makes it easy to 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.240 go to the internet and voice their pages about other 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.840 people's lives that they don't live and can't live. And 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.960 so that's why I just ignore it altogether. As I 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.280 mentioned several times, whether it's positive or negative, those things 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:34.240 don't matter. Literally affects unless you're allowed to affect you. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.480 So I think being able to always understand the perspective 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.160 and being with your feet are and always trying to 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.120 find ways to seek out growth is always the most 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:43.680 important thing. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.480 You mentioned Caleb giving himself some grace with the same 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.880 apply this morning, this afternoon for Karanai Magaji. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.040 I mean one thousand percent. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.120 I think again, people just don't understand the mental gymnasts 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.880 that go into finding out twenty four hours before that 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.680 you're about to go start your first NFL on top 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.240 of that on the road, and on top of that 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.960 versus top opponent that is, you know and clearly and 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.320 clearing in the playoff picture in a loud environment. So 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.680 my head goes off to him because there was never 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.120 any flinch or doubt or hesitation on his part. Obviously 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.000 he'll continue to go. He went to some growing paints 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.960 as well, which is again is part of being at ricky. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.320 I don't care what position you play, but what do 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.920 you playing quarterback or play on left tackle. It's not 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.680 gonna be easy. Wasn't meant to be easy. If it 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.080 was it was easy, we just pick anybody to go 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.160 do it. And so there's only a select field guys 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.280 that can be able to do it from a physical standpoint, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.000 but also mentally. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.520 I got to give a tip of the cap to 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.000 Dominique Robinson because you speak about playing violent football. He 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.320 was violent on that punt block. I mean that was 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.640 a bang bang violent play and a guy who has 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.080 not had many opportunities but has kept up pretty pretty 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.960 positive mindset about about himself. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.640 That's a great example of being in your best when 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.520 your best is required. As you mentioned, not having a 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.400 ton of opportunities. But when his number got called, he 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.080 made the play in the game. It actually led to 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.040 us being able to get a score on that same drive. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.800 Whi's also why is baffling. I mean when people talk 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.880 about the football team quitting, right, you don't block punts 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.960 in the fourth quarter and sport touchdown in the fourth quarter. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.680 The football team quits, are we not getting a result 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.600 we desire? Of course not. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.720 Is that frustrated, absolutely, but the label somebody as a 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.520 quitter to me is a completely different deal which is egregious, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.640 which is why shout this guys on if you believe 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.400 that poor the tape, I'm gon show me an example 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.600 of that of who you say is quitting and when 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.400 we're quitting. So but definitely kudos to him to being 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.080 able to to rise at the moment, make a critical 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.280 play in the game and give us some life. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.520 Oh we mentioned this earlier. Now the Lions, and that'll 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.720 be the tape Dan Campbell's watching, so I'm sure he's 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.320 gonna remind these guys, say, hey, this Bears team's not 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.160 gonna gonna fold up the tenth anya and they're wounded too. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:51.480 Definitely are. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.880 I mean, they're still a very competitive football teams still 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.160 battle last week even though they end up losing. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:57.520 But he's a. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.080 Gutsy head coach when it comes to taking chances and 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.480 making some you know what. People will call it Tom's 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.879 critical calls throughout the game. But it's gonna be a 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.120 tough opponent for us. We batted against him the first 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.080 time with their place, put ourselves in a deficit, say 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:13.719 to go battle back to the end of it. Had 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.479 twenty points in the second half and we're driving. Had 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.400 server opportunities to close the game out and we didn't 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.000 capitalize on it. But looking forward to the opportunity to 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.679 come back at home and go to battle. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.680 All right, appreciate your time as always, Thank you, Thank you. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.359 I really enjoy speaking Timmy. He's very polished as a speaker, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.040 but he also just tells you what he feels. There's 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.520 no there's nothing more than that he just he's very 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.760 direct and as he's indicated many times, but I like 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.560 the way he is handling this. I mean, this is 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.600 his shot too. You got to remember that it's not 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.439 just about the Bears. It's also his shot too, And 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.240 so he's trying to compartmentalize all of that and be 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.520 the leader of this football team for the remaining games. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.399 Well, you know, you can tell about Thomas Brown. He's 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.880 a super intelligent guy because these are not pre prepared 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.040 answers or questions given to him beforehand. He is speaking 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.120 from the heart and off the top of his head 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.280 throughout his other experiences in his coaching life, whether it's 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.040 an example from another head coach that he played for, 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.000 or the development of him as a position coach throughout 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.399 his career. And I like the seriousness of his voice 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.200 in the tone that he's not going to let these 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.639 players just cash it in, that he's expecting effort and 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.800 he wants to see better effort out of him. And 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.399 I do think that in Minnesota we saw a better 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.040 effort out of the football team than San Francisco. I 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.440 just think that these guys went into Minnesota and they 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.800 knew what happened in San Francisco, and they kind of 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.920 respect what the coach is doing for them, and they 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.520 came out and they showed they had a better example 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.480 of a more physical, energy guys brand of football. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.159