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Speaker 1: Hope all of you guys are having a great weekend

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Speaker 1: so far. Got a jam pack show for you today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be hitting on five games. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamondbacks in the World Series lose in absolutely

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking fashion thanks to a Corey Seeger two run bomb

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Speaker 1: off of our closer, who has never given up a

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna hit on five games. Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 1: The Spurs and the Rockets, a game that we would

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Speaker 1: incredibly entertaining game. Victor Wiben Yama sends the game to

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Speaker 1: both teams. And then Luka Doncic hits four consecutive threes

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Speaker 1: later on during the season. So Golden State Sacramento a

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Speaker 1: things that the Rockets were doing that I disagreed with

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Speaker 1: is they basically had those four guys that were spacing

433
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Speaker 1: just stand in those four spots and there was no

434
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Speaker 1: kind of motion or interchanging taking place. And so the

435
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: Spurs defenders that were kind of gapping those guys, they

436
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: were able to split the difference, and they had seen

437
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 1: that same action so many times they figured out how

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Speaker 1: to guard it. They forced a couple turnovers on Shangoon.

439
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: He forced an offensive foul, then they got a steal

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Speaker 1: on a kickout pass, and they were running it down

441
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Speaker 1: the other end for layups and dunks. Keldon Johnson had

442
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Speaker 1: a big, two handed dunk down the stretch. So the

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Speaker 1: Spurs go up big. The Rockets then default back to

444
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Speaker 1: that Van Vliet Shangoun pick and roll and they score

445
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Speaker 1: seven quick points on it. Two pocket passes to Shangun

446
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Speaker 1: one where he just threw down this ridiculous dunk over

447
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Speaker 1: Zach Collins. Like I said, super super fun game because

448
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 1: Shangun dunks on on Zach Collins and talks all sorts

449
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Speaker 1: of shit. Then they go down to the other end

450
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Speaker 1: and they run Zack Collins in the post against Shangoon

451
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Speaker 1: and he hits this like hard dribble to the right

452
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Speaker 1: spin back baseline and gets pass him for an and

453
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Speaker 1: one at that point though, really by the time the

454
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Speaker 1: Keldon Johnson had that dunk, they were up big and

455
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: the O team it was basically over at that point,

456
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Speaker 1: but the Rockets did make some shots late to make

457
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Speaker 1: a kind of interesting. Victor wenbin Yama finished with twenty

458
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Speaker 1: one points and twelve rebounds, two steals, and three blocks

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Speaker 1: and a ton of huge defensive plays. And there was this.

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Speaker 1: So I told you guys about the play where Devin

461
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Speaker 1: Vessel hits the turnaround jump shot over Dylan Brooks and

462
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Speaker 1: starts talking shit. Well, on the very next possession they

463
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Speaker 1: end up, he ends up attacking him again, and Dylan

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Speaker 1: Brooks of course takes it personally because this young kid's

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Speaker 1: talking shit to him, so he's locking him up sliding

466
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Speaker 1: with him. Vassell ends up taking like a tough like

467
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Speaker 1: seventeen foot fade away on the baseline and airballs it.

468
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Speaker 1: Because Dylan Brooks is especially good at disrupting your base.

469
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Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but like when you're giving

470
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Speaker 1: up size to a guy, you can shoot over the top,

471
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Speaker 1: push him on their base to disrupt their lift, and

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Speaker 1: then attack the shooting pocket to disrupt their gather. And

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Speaker 1: that's going to operate. That's going to be much more

474
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Speaker 1: effective to disrupt them than try to actually contest the

475
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Speaker 1: shot when the guy's taller than you, right, so he

476
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Speaker 1: forces the turnover or not the turnover, the air ball

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Speaker 1: and the rockets run out the other way. Jabari Smith

478
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Speaker 1: rises up and tries to dunk on Victor Webbanyama. Victor

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Speaker 1: Weben Yama meets him on the top and blocks it.

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Speaker 1: In the process he gets hit. Victor kind of falls

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Speaker 1: back towards the baseline. Jabari Smith gets his own offensive rebound,

482
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Speaker 1: thinks there's nobody around, and tries to lay it back up.

483
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: Victor somehow recovers from the baseline to get back into

484
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Speaker 1: the play and blocks Jabari Smith again. Some of the

485
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Speaker 1: most ridiculous defensive plays that we've ever seen are happening

486
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Speaker 1: on a nightly basis with this Victor women Yama kid.

487
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. He was also their most reliable offensive option

488
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Talked about those two right block post ups.

489
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: They had another player where they drew up an ISO

490
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Speaker 1: for him against Dylan Brooks on a baseline out of

491
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Speaker 1: bounds and he ended up faking a backcut and then

492
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: popping back out to the perimeter knocking down a jump shot.

493
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: Thought it was interesting too because after the game tying

494
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Speaker 1: shot against Jabari Smith Junior, you could see Dylan Brooks

495
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Speaker 1: get a little frustrated, and in my head, I'm like,

496
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Speaker 1: I bet you Dylan Brooks asks for the matchup in

497
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Speaker 1: OT and he got it. You got the matchup against Victor,

498
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: and then Victor scored on him just by making a

499
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Speaker 1: backcut move and then shooting over the top of him.

500
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Speaker 1: But again, like for him at this point in his

501
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Speaker 1: career to be that confident in a late game situation

502
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Speaker 1: down by two to go get a bucket, to be

503
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Speaker 1: as confident as he was in OT, this kid is

504
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: just in. This kid is going to be insanely good.

505
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Speaker 1: Eighteen points and nine rebounds a game. So far, He's

506
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Speaker 1: got eleven post ups and eleven ISOs so far the

507
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Speaker 1: season for eleven points, So he's a point per possession

508
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Speaker 1: and half court static, half court shot creation four point

509
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: five stocks per game, which is absolutely insane, and the

510
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: Spurs have a plus seven net rating, meaning they're outscoring

511
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Speaker 1: teams by seven points per one hundred possessions with him

512
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Speaker 1: on the floor. Man talk about a franchise altering talent.

513
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: Also was confident at the free throw line, down the stretch.

514
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Speaker 1: Just's he's way more advanced than I expected to see

515
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Speaker 1: at this point. I was thinking earlier. I don't want

516
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: to say anything after two games, but like there's a

517
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Speaker 1: chance that within a couple of months we're like, oh,

518
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: this kid's already one of the twenty best players alive.

519
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Like that, that's how quickly this kid is. That's how

520
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Speaker 1: quickly this kid is progressing and where he's at in

521
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Speaker 1: terms of his ability to impact winning relative to potential. Remember,

522
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Speaker 1: with most young guys, it's like you see the numbers,

523
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: you see the you see the highlights, but the winning

524
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: impact isn't there. And that's the exact opposite of what

525
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: we're seeing with Victor like he's straight up impact in

526
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Speaker 1: winning at an extremely high level as a rookie in

527
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Speaker 1: the NBA, which is super uncommon. Devin Vassel twenty four

528
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Speaker 1: points per game so far in sixty five percent true shooting,

529
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Speaker 1: seven for fifteen on pull up jump shots, and six

530
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Speaker 1: for six at the rim. Pretty damn impressive start of

531
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Speaker 1: the season for him. He had some big shots down

532
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: the stretch of this game. Also had a big alley

533
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Speaker 1: up to Zack Collins in ot. The Spurs are in

534
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Speaker 1: good shape. They're gonna be fun team to watch this year.

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Speaker 1: For the Rockets, I thought it was really interesting that

536
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Speaker 1: they won to Shangoon for the most part down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: He's averaging twenty eleven and seven on fifty eight percent

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Speaker 1: true shooting so far. He kind of fell apart in

539
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Speaker 1: ot with some turnovers and bad decisions out of the post.

540
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: But again, like I blame that more on the schematics setup.

541
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Speaker 1: Like if you run the same exact action without any wrinkles,

542
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Speaker 1: you know, a dozen times, a defense gonna is gonna

543
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Speaker 1: figure it out. Like you can mimic the action, but

544
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Speaker 1: add wrinkles to make it so that it's like even

545
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: if you look at down the stretch when Lebron was

546
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: attacking Nurki pick and roll in the Suns Lakers game,

547
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: Like it was three pick and rolls in three layups,

548
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: but all three of them were in different spots on

549
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: the floor, and all three of them had different kind

550
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: of slashing angles, like one from the left wing run,

551
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: one from the middle, and one from the right wing.

552
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: Like that just that just gives a little bit of

553
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Speaker 1: a difference in the way that the alignment is set up,

554
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Speaker 1: so that maybe it's a different help defender involved. Maybe

555
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Speaker 1: it's a you know, a different angle for the screen

556
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Speaker 1: or whatever. It might be one of the one of

557
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Speaker 1: the ones that Lebron hit with ad a d re

558
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Speaker 1: screen on the opposite side to get better separation, like

559
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: do something different when you're spamming in action to prevent

560
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: a defense from getting too locked in on it. Right,

561
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Speaker 1: But the rockets are a lot of fun, and they're

562
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Speaker 1: better than they were last year. I'm just confused by

563
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Speaker 1: the process of it all, Like like Jalen Green was

564
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Speaker 1: completely uninvolved in the offense in the fourth quarter in overtime,

565
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: and like he was your lottery pick two years ago,

566
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Speaker 1: So what's the purpose here? Like I get running it

567
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: through Shanngoon, but like running so much through Van Vliet.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like my question is, especially if you're gonna

569
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Speaker 1: lose games your own two and the Rockets are fun,

570
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna make the playoffs or anything. This

571
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: is not a team that's gonna win a ton of

572
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Speaker 1: basketball games. But so like, all you're doing is just

573
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Speaker 1: finding out that Fred van Vliet can make you a

574
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Speaker 1: mediocre basketball team, rather than letting Jalen Green get his

575
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Speaker 1: repetitions that he needs so that you can find out

576
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Speaker 1: whether or not he can lead you to be a

577
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Speaker 1: great basketball team or no he can't, we might have

578
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Speaker 1: to move him and look to go another direction. The

579
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: only way you're gonna find that out is by giving

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00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: him those opportunities. And it is kind of a bummer

581
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: to me that two games in he's basically turned into

582
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: a spot up player. And by the way, he had

583
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Speaker 1: two driving layups and down the stretch of this game

584
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Speaker 1: on random possessions where he looked to be aggressive, and

585
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Speaker 1: it's like, this is the type of top tier athleticism

586
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Speaker 1: that he has that makes him such an intriguing prospect

587
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Speaker 1: to begin with. All right, moving on to heat Celtics,

588
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: So the heat jumped him early. Bam was killing him

589
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: in the half court. He had a lot of success

590
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: attacking Krisops Porzingis. That was the first time that I

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00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: saw Christops look a little you know, tissue paper e

592
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: in the on the defensive end. But it's a tough matchup.

593
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Bam is a much better athlete than him and is

594
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: stronger and has a lower center of gravity, so it's

595
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: basically just hitting him with that right shoulder and creating separation,

596
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: hitting that little short jumper over the top, or using

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00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: his strength to get leverage around him to work along

598
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: the baseline. He was killing him early. Tyler Harrow made

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Speaker 1: a lot of shots in just kind of like the

600
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Speaker 1: breakdown areas of the game. In that first half, he

601
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Speaker 1: had two jumpers in transition. He had another one off

602
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: of an offensive rebound from Kevin Love. Again, like Tyler

603
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Speaker 1: Harrow is one of those guys like if he's in

604
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: a really good drop coverage, a really deep drop coverage

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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: where he gets good looks in the mid range, and

606
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: when he's attacking closeouts, he can be really devastating because

607
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: of his ability to shoot. He's also really good with

608
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: those escape dribbles that I was talking about earlier that

609
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: I want to see Kevin Herder use more, but it's

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00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: a little bit tougher for him when he gets into

611
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: a really tough half court situation static, you know, running

612
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: pick and roll against an elite defense when they're really

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Speaker 1: loaded up on him. That's where it can get a

614
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: little tougher for him. ISO's well, but he can get

615
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: buckets in the flow of the offense, and that's there's

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Speaker 1: value there. It just really comes down to again with

617
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Speaker 1: the Heat. They get into this fourth quarter situation and

618
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Celtics are basically throwing the kitchen sink

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Speaker 1: at Jimmy Butler, and there just wasn't another guy who could, really,

620
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Speaker 1: like at a high level, create shots in the half

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Speaker 1: court against the Celtics when they were really locked in.

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Speaker 1: But Heat go up twenty six thirteen. Tyler and Bam

623
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Speaker 1: are hot early. They did a good job of getting

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown at a rhythm. They're so

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Speaker 1: good at that. For whatever reason, the Heat just are

626
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Speaker 1: capable of making Jimmy or excuse me, making Jason and

627
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: Jalen just not play well. And I think there's a

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00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a mental thing going on there. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot on this show, but like

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Speaker 1: there are teams where matchups where a specific team is

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Speaker 1: just kind of in the other team's head. I feel

632
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: like Golden State's a little bit in Sacramento's head, for instance,

633
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: right Denver's a little bit in the Lakers head, and

634
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Speaker 1: I think the heater a little bit in the Celtics head.

635
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Speaker 1: But the difference is they just have an absurd amount

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Speaker 1: of talent and they rid that talent in a big way.

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Speaker 1: In that fourth quarter. Derek White was awesome. He had

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Speaker 1: twenty eight points. He had fourteen points in the fourth quarter.

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00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Derek White's red hot with his jump shooting so far

640
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: the season. Seven for eleven on jump shots, three for

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Speaker 1: five on off the dribble jump shots, block Jimmy Butler

642
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: in transition on dunks twice, one in the first half,

643
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Speaker 1: and then a big one late in the game. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I went on with the Jenkins and Jones guys last

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Speaker 1: week and that episode just posted this morning, so you

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Speaker 1: can find that on the Jenkins and Jones feed. It's

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Speaker 1: also on our Hoops Tonight feed if you look at

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Speaker 1: the just this same channel's feed. If you scroll down

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Speaker 1: the one that looks like a little bit different thumbnail.

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Speaker 1: That was when I went on with the Jenkins and

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Speaker 1: Jones guys. But we were talking about we were ranking the

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Speaker 1: first options, second options, third options, and fourth options in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and we got into a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a debate because we were trying to decide who is

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Speaker 1: the best fourth option in the league. And it's definitely

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Speaker 1: on the Celtics. The question is is whether or not

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Speaker 1: it's Derek White. Chrisops porzingis and so I on the

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Speaker 1: show was like, I think it's Derek White. And the

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Speaker 1: main reason why is just I just have a ton

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Speaker 1: of respect for Derek White and what he could do

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Speaker 1: as a perimeter defender, and he's one of the best

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Speaker 1: guard shot blockers in the league. And so many times

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years when the Boston Celtics

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Speaker 1: offense is broken down in the playoffs, it's been Derek

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Speaker 1: White who's been able to get them flowing again because

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Speaker 1: of his ability to get dribble penetration and hit little

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Speaker 1: pop shots in the lane and stuff like that. And

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Speaker 1: so I think Derek White is a deeply impactful winner.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the top fifty players in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and in this conversation with Jenkins and Jones guys,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I think it might be Derek White,

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Speaker 1: but then all of them were like, no, it's Porzingis.

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Speaker 1: And then I watched the season opener for the Celtics

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's definitely Porzingis. Like it's

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Speaker 1: just his ability to protect the rim and space the

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Speaker 1: floor in their offense. It just impacts winning at an

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Speaker 1: incredibly high level. But then I see a game like

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Speaker 1: last night and I'm like, fuck, Derek White is really

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Speaker 1: good too, you know. And the moral of the story

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Speaker 1: here is like, if I don't know which one of

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Speaker 1: those two guys is better, and it's because both of

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Speaker 1: them are freaking good, that's a really good spot to

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Speaker 1: be in. If we're in like a legitimate argument over

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Speaker 1: who your fourth best player is and the two options

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Speaker 1: are Derek White and Chrisops Porzingis, you're in damn good shape.

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Speaker 1: And the Celtics are in really good shape. Derek White

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Speaker 1: already has four blocks this season. Jalen Brown got going

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Speaker 1: offensively in the fourth quarter. He had twelve points in

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Speaker 1: the fourth. They had a pull up transition three that

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Speaker 1: was nice. Had a really nice contact left hand layup

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Speaker 1: on the left side of the rim, and then he

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Speaker 1: hits the dagger on the right side. Again. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a lot of that this year. Like Tatum was

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Speaker 1: kind of down a little bit this game. Jalen Brown

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Speaker 1: played better right, Derek White was scoring a lot more,

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Speaker 1: Drew Holliday not as much, although Drew hit a big

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Speaker 1: pull up jump shot attacking a close out in down

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Speaker 1: the stretch of this game. But that's what it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like when you have five guys that are like

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Speaker 1: this any given night, two or three of them are

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Speaker 1: going to be in the high twenties low thirties for points,

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Speaker 1: and then the other guys are going to be in

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Speaker 1: the teams and it's gonna be different every night. And

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Speaker 1: the main thing is, like that kind of oscillating rhythm

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Speaker 1: is fine during the regular season, but I usually prefer

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Speaker 1: teams that have a more clear hierarchy because they end

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Speaker 1: up being a little bit more consistent in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: So like, I'm less worried about it for the other

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Speaker 1: four guys. I just want to see Jason Tatum like

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Speaker 1: consistently in that you know, like twenty eight to thirty

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Speaker 1: two points a night thing to just kind of show

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Speaker 1: that they're clearly leaning on one guy that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the tip of the spear, and Jayson Tatum got a

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Speaker 1: little uninvolved in the offense. Lady did have some big plays.

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Speaker 1: The Celtics were attacking Kyle Lowry a ton on the

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Speaker 1: defensive end late in this game, and Jayson Tatum had

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Speaker 1: two nice attacks on Kyle Lowry, a crossover right to left,

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Speaker 1: two handed dunk down the lane, and then he posted

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Speaker 1: him up on the right block and drew a foul

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Speaker 1: going strong towards the middle. But he was kind of

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Speaker 1: uninvolved in the offense outside of that, and I just

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Speaker 1: I want to see them lean heavily on Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 1: especially down the stretch of games, because that's what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need from him in the postseason. Anyway. Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: has already posted up eleven times this season, including that

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Speaker 1: big late post up against Kyle Lowry that got him

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Speaker 1: to the foul line. He only did so one point

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Speaker 1: seven times per game last year, so like essentially three

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Speaker 1: times as many post ups so far per game from

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. I think that's really encouraging because I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big half court shot creation weapon

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Speaker 1: for Tatum when we get to the postseason. On the

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Speaker 1: heat front, there's still the heat. They can still defend.

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Speaker 1: They can still get you out of rhythm. Again, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Harrow twenty eight, but like his half court shot creation

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Speaker 1: numbers are still below point per possession. So like again,

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Speaker 1: it's like Tyler Harrow is going to be an innings

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Speaker 1: eater in the regular season. I just I don't think

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Speaker 1: he has enough firepower to be your number two. And again,

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this to death, and I know heat

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Speaker 1: fans are probably getting sick of it, but eventually they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get more firepower in here. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that more in a second. Bam looks like he's

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Speaker 1: continuing to prove offensively. He's run fourteen post ups so

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Speaker 1: far this year and scored fifteen points out of him

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Speaker 1: including passes, five points on five ISOs, So that's twenty

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Speaker 1: points on nineteen half court shot creation possessions. That's impressive.

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Speaker 1: They're just still operating at too much of a talent disadvantage.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Harrow couldn't generate clean looks in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: He was one for six Bam was one for five

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Speaker 1: in the fourth court. What'd you expect from limited offensive players.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have stretches in the ebb and flow of

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Speaker 1: the game, or they can score. But when things really

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Speaker 1: get tight late and defenses lock in, it's only the

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Speaker 1: truly elite guys that can score. And the Celtics just

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00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: threw the kitchen sink at Jimmy to get the ball

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00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: out of his hands on his drives, rotated really well

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: out of that kept getting these guys stuck in static

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00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: shot creation situations and they couldn't make plays. And again,

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00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: like the coaching and the conditioning and the culture and

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00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler can only take you so far against the

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Speaker 1: best teams in the league. This team needs another offensive weapon.

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Speaker 1: The Celtics held the Heat to a ninety six offensive

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Speaker 1: rating in the fourth quarter, and that was with Tyler

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Speaker 1: Harrow and Kevin Love both hitting basically garbage time threes

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Speaker 1: late in the game. And so at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, it's still that specific problem that's going to

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00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: hold them back so far through two games, one ten

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Speaker 1: offensive rating pretty mediocre, one thirteen defensive rating just bad,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, and they've been the worst rebounding team

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Speaker 1: in the league. Through two games, they're getting just forty

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Speaker 1: four point five percent of available rebounds. So again, I'll

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Speaker 1: never count this team out. I just I trust their

774
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: top tier guys too much. But this is part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why I wanted Dame to be in Miami.

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Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be really interesting to see them

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Speaker 1: kind of be on the same talent level as Boston

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Speaker 1: and Milwaukee. But instead, both of those teams got better,

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Speaker 1: and the heat seemingly got worse, and we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they can overcome it at some point during the season.

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Speaker 1: All right, moving on to Oklahoma City and Cleveland two

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Speaker 1: more games, So okay. So he controlled this game for

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Speaker 1: the most part. They had a double digit lead for

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Speaker 1: most of the second quarter. In the beginning of the third,

785
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: say Gills as Alexander was torching them. But then Cleveland

786
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: fought their way back into the game late third, early

787
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Speaker 1: fourth with some really impressive perimeter defense, something we don't

788
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Speaker 1: expect from this team. This has been a weak perimeter

789
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: defense team that is excellent in rotation and excellent at

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00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: the basket protecting the paint, right, and it's a lot

791
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Speaker 1: of Donovan Mitchell and Darius Scarland just kind of floating

792
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: around defensively, not giving up a lot of dribble penetration,

793
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: but them just having the back end talent to kind

794
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: of clean it up right. And what I really appreciated

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00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: down the stretch of this game as it was their

796
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: perimeter defense that got them back into it. And why

797
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: that's exciting is like when you pair elite perimeter defense

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00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: with elite rim protection, that's when you reach like a

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Speaker 1: true level of defensive potential that can carry you to

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Speaker 1: a championship in the big picture, right, And it comes

801
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: down to a couple different things, because like Karris Slivert

802
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: has always been a very good perimeter defender, and he

803
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: gave Shay Gildas Alexander all sorts of problems in the

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Speaker 1: second half of this game as he kind of like

805
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Speaker 1: was I would say Karris Slivert deserves the majority of

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Speaker 1: the credit for slowing down the Thunder offense in the

807
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: second half of this game. But Donovan Mitchell legitimately through

808
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: two games is playing his ass off on defense, like

809
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: he's trying harder on the defensive end than I've ever

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00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: seen him try. And then Max Struce is just a

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Speaker 1: solid perimeter defender who is also a smart team defender

812
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: in rotation. Dean Wade was very good defensively down the

813
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: stretch of this game, containing the ball against Jalen Williams,

814
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: helping and recovering off the ball. They just as a

815
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: unit contained the basketball really well, and especially with cutting

816
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: off the head of the snake the way that Karis

817
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: Lavert did on Shake Gills Alexander. For the most part,

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00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: they prevented the Thunder from getting those easy driving kick opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Thunder, our team that is a ton of

820
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: aggregate ball handling and shooting. Everybody in that lineup can shoot,

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Speaker 1: Everybody can dribble, and so like, if you let them

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Speaker 1: play drive and kick basketball and beat you off the

823
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: dribble and get the defense into rotation, they're gonna pick

824
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: you apart. But if you can contain them. You know

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys like Josh Giddy and Jalen

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Speaker 1: Williams at this phase in his career as a young player,

827
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: chet Holm, we're gonna at this phase in his career

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Speaker 1: as a young player. Lou Dort is a guy who's

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Speaker 1: better attacking closeouts in a set defense. They're not gonna

830
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: beat dudes off the dribble a ton. They need to

831
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Speaker 1: get that initial advantage right, and the Cavs just basically

832
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: took that away and shut them down for an extended

833
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: stretch there. In the fourth quarters, they built a ten

834
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Speaker 1: point lead. On the other end of the floor, Donovan

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Speaker 1: Mitchell had a really impressive stretch. He had a driving

836
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: and one over lou Dort. In transition, he had Dean

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Speaker 1: Wade on a backcut. One of the better passes I've

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00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: seen Donovan Mitchell make. Coming along the right wing, he

839
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: sees Dean Waye and kind of loops the ball out

840
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: to the side and just hits him in stride to

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00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: throw down a dunk on shake yials just Alexander. He

842
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: hit a couple of pull up jumpers too. Calves are

843
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: up one hundred and ninety, but then the thunder finally

844
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: start getting Cleveland into rotation. First play, Krislovert gambles first

845
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Speaker 1: steal on Shakekials as Alexander in the left corner, Shake kind

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00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: of like taps it to himself over the top, catches it,

847
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: gets downhill to the rim, draws a crowd, throws a

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Speaker 1: kickout pass of Lou dor at the top of the key,

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00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: wide open three knocks it down. It's one hundred and

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00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: ninety three. Calves go get a bucket. On the other end,

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00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: it's one twelve to ninety three. Dort runs down and

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00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: transition along the right side and runs a ghost skin

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00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: screen with shake yale just Alexander. Now again, they were

854
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Speaker 1: containing the ball if you think of the key like this,

855
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: or the three point line like this. They were containing

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Speaker 1: the driving lanes towards the basket. But lou Dort did

857
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: something that I thought was really smart. He just went

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Speaker 1: really fast towards the short corner and on the play

859
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: shake kises Alexander, sets a screen for him. Both defenders

860
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: run with Dort just pitches it back to shake Yij's

861
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Alexander for a wide open three. Those ghost screens are

862
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: really hard to guard because most often they're gonna switch,

863
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: and it's just really hard for a guy who's running

864
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: full speed to hand off to someone else who's standing still.

865
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: But he's standing still, it has to guard the player

866
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: who's running full speed, and so inevitably it just kind

867
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: of it's almost like gravity. It just kind of pulls

868
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: both guys in that direction. That's why ghost screens work

869
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: so well. And so he pitches it back to shake

870
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: yes as Alexander wide open three, and he knocks it down

871
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: one O two ninety six. Very next possession they come down,

872
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: they run a kind of a version of Spain pick

873
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: and Roll where Jalen Williams runs a ball screen with

874
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: Chet right but as Chet is rolling again. In Spain

875
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: pick and Roll, sometimes the shooter will backscreen for the

876
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: roleman so he can go to the basket for a dunk.

877
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes the rollman will downscreen for the for the shooter

878
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: coming up. In this play, Chet sets the ball screen

879
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: on Jalen Williams turns and on his roll to the

880
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: basket sets a pin down for Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe

881
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: curls the pin down because he's a shooter defend in

882
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: trail position. He gets downhill. It's a pitch back to

883
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: a wide open Jalen Williams at the top of the key.

884
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: He knocks down at three. Now it's one O two

885
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: at one O two to ninety nine. Uh then lou

886
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: Dort takes over. Is one of the best. Uh I

887
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: missed one. So then on the very next possession, uh

888
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: Max Strews cuts down the lane and throws a wild

889
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: layup up and falls into camera row. And like I

890
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: always say, when you when you miss layups and you

891
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: try to draw fouls, it's it's kind of a poor

892
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: strategy for your transition defense because if you're probably not

893
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna get the call because refs are trying to limit

894
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: the flopping and all that stuff anyway, and the risk

895
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: reward factor is kind of shitty because if you don't

896
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: get the call, it's going to be a fast break

897
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: the other way because you're gonna lose floor balance because

898
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: you have a defender laying on the ground in camera row.

899
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: So Streus is laying on the ground. Thunder run the

900
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: other way five on four in the transition defense, remember

901
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: you always go to the basket first and then you

902
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: flare out to shooters chat. Holmgrean ends up trailing to

903
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: play wide open and he knocks down the three. Now

904
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: it's one o two to one oh two and we're tied.

905
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: And again, like, what's crazy about that sequence is that's

906
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back threes for the Thunder.

907
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: But all four of them were from different players off

908
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: of different action. And what's interesting about that is it

909
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: wasn't just one guy got hot. This is just the

910
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: level of skill that this team has, and they're capable

911
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: when they run action well and they can get the

912
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: defense into rotation, they're capable of generating high quality shots

913
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: for guys that are going to make it. Like in

914
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: that lineup it's Isaiah Joe, He's gonna make shots. Seyo

915
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: to Alexander, he's gonna make shots. Jalen Williams if you

916
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: leave them open, he's gonna make shots. Cheded Holmgren is

917
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: shooting seventy one percent from three so far at this season. Like,

918
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna make shots, and they have the

919
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: ability to generate them as long as they can get

920
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: the defense into rotation. So it's one O two, one

921
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: oh two, and then lou Dort takes over the game

922
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: as one of the best perimeter defenders in the world.

923
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: It is something I've said that made me so excited

924
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: about this Thunder team, the idea of pairing lou Dort,

925
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: who I believe is a top tier perimeter defender, and

926
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: chet Holmgren, who had seven blocks in the game yesterday.

927
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: When you combine those two pieces, specifically lou Dort in

928
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: his ability to navigate screens, lou Dort is damn near

929
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: impossible to screen. When you combine that with real rim protection,

930
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: you can cause real problems for the best offenses in

931
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: the league. And so lou Dort takes the game over

932
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: with back to back defensive possessions on Donovan Mitchell. First

933
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: one's in pick and roll on the ball screen, lou

934
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: Dort just refuses to be screened. And this is Donovan Mitchell,

935
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: one of the best athletes in the league. He's trying

936
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: to get downhill. Lou Dort cuts him off, gets over

937
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: the top of the screen and beats him downhill. So

938
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: as a result, Jalen Williams and Everyone's able to stay

939
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: home on their shooters. Donovan Mitchell finds himself in trouble

940
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: because he's going down hill in pick and roll. He

941
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have a shot and he doesn't have a pass,

942
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: so he ends up just jumping and just throwing the

943
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: ball away, turns it over. They go down the other

944
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: end and shag giffs. Alexander and Isaiah Joe run a

945
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: ghost screen a pick and pop action and on the

946
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: action shakiffs Alexander draws two pitches it back to Isaiah

947
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Joe Isaijah skips it over to the left wing to

948
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 1: lou Dort. Dean Wade's kind of caught no man's land

949
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: between the shooter and the corner and lou Dort, I

950
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: think there's Jay Williams, Jaylen Williams in the corner. He's

951
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: kind of split in the difference. Max Struce it kind

952
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: of doesn't understand whether or not Dean Wade's going to

953
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: the corner to the wing. Lou Dort sees the opportunity,

954
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: he drives the close out, gets inside, makes a layup

955
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: to put him up one fourteen to one to twelve,

956
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: and then the next possession, Donovan Mitchell says, screw it,

957
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take a ball screen. I'm just

958
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: going to try to shoot over to lou Dort, and

959
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: loud Dort's one of the best individual defenders in the world.

960
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: He slides his feet and forces Donovan Mitchell into an

961
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: air ball in Oklahoma City wins the game. So again,

962
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: super high level offensive talent on display, an incredible perimeter

963
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: defense on display from OKC as they come back to

964
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: win the game. And again you're adding real rim protection

965
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: with chet Holmer, and he had a huge block late

966
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: in the game on Evan Mobley when it was one

967
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: oh two ninety six that directly led to the Jaylen

968
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: Williams Threy to get it back to three. And you've

969
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: got this outstanding perimeter defender that can't be screened, and

970
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: you're seeing the elite defensive potential. The thunder have a

971
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: one oh two point five defensive rating so far through

972
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: two games, which is outstanding. Chet holmern averaging three point

973
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: five blocks per game and shooting seventy one percent from three.

974
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: That I said before he uh, I said when he

975
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: came into the league that I viewed him as essentially

976
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: like the ideal modern center, the guy who could legitimately

977
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: be your defensive anchor while simultaneously giving you true five

978
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: out spacing and opening up driving lanes. And he's doing that,

979
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: and in the big picture, he's going to be an

980
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: excellent wing scorer as well. It's not showing too much

981
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: of it. He's done some of it, but I think

982
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: his first NBA basket was like a half spin back

983
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: fade away over his left shoulder, Like he's got really

984
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: high level wings scoring potential and well and as well

985
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: in the big picture, and that might be something they

986
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: lean more on in the big picture when he gets older,

987
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: I can't possibly conceptualize a better fit with his OKAC

988
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: core than Chet On the Cavs front. It's tough to

989
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: take too much away from these two games because both

990
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: of them been so freaking wild. Like the Nets game,

991
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: they were down big and had no business winning and

992
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: then they stole it. And then in this game, they

993
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: were up big and then they blew it. So hard

994
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: to make heads or tails out of that. The perimeter defense, though,

995
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: is exciting again, Like Lavert's always been pretty good there,

996
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: but if Donovan Mitchell has his best perimeter defense season

997
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: as a pro, and you'd add Max Shrus into that equation.

998
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: He didn't shoot well today, but he still was a

999
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: positive and a bunch and made a lot of winning plays.

1000
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: And then if Dean Wade is gonna be able to

1001
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: play like that, especially with his length, like you can

1002
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: have some you can have some exciting defensive potential with

1003
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: this team as well. And when you combine that with

1004
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: the return of Jared Allen with real rim protection right

1005
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: next to Evan Mobley, that they could be even more

1006
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: imposed defensively than they were last year. My biggest scripe

1007
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: right now with the Cavs is offensively they're a little

1008
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: too reliant on Donovan Mitchell, and when he's not hitting shots,

1009
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: they're struggling to score right now. And like that's kind

1010
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: of what these games have looked like. It's like Donovan

1011
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: hits a couple shots in a row, makes a couple

1012
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: of plays in a row, and the Calves going a

1013
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: big run, and then he goes ice cold and misses

1014
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: a couple in a row and throws a couple bad

1015
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: passes in a row, and then they immediately start to

1016
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: hemorrhage the lead. All right, let's hit our last game

1017
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: and then get out of here for the day, and

1018
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: we'll get hit our male bad questions and then we'll

1019
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: get out of here. So the Nets in the mav

1020
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 1: So the Nets lose another heartbreaker. If you guys, remember

1021
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: they were up six late against the Calves and they

1022
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: blew that one. This one, they were up five late

1023
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: and they blew this one. Cam Thomas and Roy Soneil

1024
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: go crazy in the fourth quarter. But then Luca hits

1025
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back threes to steal

1026
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: the game. Last one's literally a prayer. They get him

1027
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: to give up the ball twice, but he just throws

1028
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: up this like right handed push shot from twenty seven

1029
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: feet on the right wing that banks in, and then

1030
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Cam Thomas once again gets a decent look at the

1031
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: end of the game but can't make it, and the

1032
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: Mavericks are now too oh down big late, though offense

1033
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: wasn't the issue, the MAVs scored thirty seven points in

1034
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. As good as Luca was down the stretch,

1035
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: Kyrie was every bit is good to start the fourth quarter.

1036
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: The Maps scored twenty points in the first six minutes

1037
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, with Kyrie basically creating every basket.

1038
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: He's got great pick and roll chemistry, with Dwight Powell

1039
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: already hit him for a couple of layups. Powell also

1040
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: hit a three in the corner off of a driving

1041
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: kick from from Kyrie to cap that runoff. But again, like,

1042
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: that's the crazy thing with his team is like you

1043
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: your reward for surviving the Luca minutes is here comes

1044
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Kyrie and he's gonna be almost every bit is impactful.

1045
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: And then if you survive those minutes, here comes Luca again. Right,

1046
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: And like, so far through two games, they've been impossible

1047
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: to guard in every configuration. One twenty one offensive rating

1048
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: so far for the season one twenty one offensive rating

1049
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: with Kyrie on the floor and Luca off, one twenty

1050
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: five offensive rating with Luca on and Kyrie off, and

1051
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: with both on the floor of one to eighteen offensive rating.

1052
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: So there's no point in the game where they're gonna

1053
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: experien and offensive rules. Now, the question is that they're

1054
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get enough stops right and on

1055
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: the defense veend, it was mostly just sloppiness, Like they

1056
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: straight up lost Royce O'Neil way too many times in

1057
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter or the first one was strong side

1058
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: help from from Grant Williams, like literally I think it

1059
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: was I can't remember who it was it was driving

1060
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: down hill. I think it was Spencer Dinwitty, But like

1061
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: they just left Royce O'Neil in the strong side corner,

1062
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: which you don't want to do, right. You want to

1063
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: force the defense to make a skip pass across the court.

1064
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: If they're gonna give up an open three right that

1065
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: gets him going the second one in transition, they just

1066
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: don't guard him like Tim Hardaway Junior I believe was

1067
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be guarding him, but he's like facing completely

1068
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: away from him elsewhere on the floor and Royce O'Neil's

1069
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: just standing by himself on the right wing. They throw,

1070
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: they pitch it ahead to him, Me knocks down the three,

1071
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: and then on the last one Josh Green again. Now again,

1072
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: like you gotta think of it like this, nail help

1073
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: is an important part of NBA defense, but it's all

1074
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: relative to what your situation is. Right, Royce O'Neil had

1075
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: just made two threes and Josh Green was like sinking

1076
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: way down to the nail and help. And so when

1077
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: they threw that swing pass to Royce O'Neil, Josh screen

1078
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: had to close out hard, and so Royce just threw

1079
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: a pump fake at him and it ended up side

1080
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: stepping into another three. Right, Like Cam Thomas made some

1081
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: tough shots, and your defense is going to have to

1082
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: withstand tough shots. Right. Like I talked about earlier in

1083
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: the show, all these teams have offensive ratings over one hundred. Like, no,

1084
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: one's just not scoring the basketball. It's not how you

1085
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: can literally shut a team down. Guys are going to score,

1086
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: but you have to find ways to close down other opportunities.

1087
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: You can't give them the easy ones that come over

1088
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: the course of the game. If cam Thomas makes the

1089
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: tough shots, but you don't leave Royce O'Neil open, then

1090
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: you don't need Luke got to make a prayer at

1091
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: the end of the game to win the game, right, So, like,

1092
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: those are the areas that they've got to improve. Now

1093
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: a positive sign, they've rebounded pretty well. Remember that was

1094
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: a huge problem for the team down the stretch last year.

1095
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: They've grabbed forty nine percent of available rebounds through two games.

1096
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And again they're two and oh, I

1097
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: know the Nets and Spurs aren't playoff teams in the

1098
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: purest concept of that, right, but wins are not easy

1099
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: to come by in the NBA. And so like, in

1100
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: my opinion, you can't hope to be in a better

1101
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: position than where they're at right now. And again, like

1102
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: I do think that defensively they have the personnel to

1103
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: be better than they actually are, and a lot of

1104
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: it is just little, tiny execution things that they can

1105
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: improve over time. And the offensive shot creation piece is

1106
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: legitimately a weapon. Like I mean, we've talked a lot

1107
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: about the Suns potentially being the best offense in the league,

1108
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: and they very well may end up being so. But

1109
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: like Dallas is every much every bit as much potential

1110
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: to be the best offense in the league. That's just

1111
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: when you've got that type of top tier shot creation

1112
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: relentlessly coming at you all game, with good spacing concepts,

1113
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: and with players at the end at the end of

1114
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: those plays that can finish those plays, you're going to

1115
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: score a lot of points on the next front. Cam

1116
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: Thomas follows up his thirty six point night against the

1117
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: Cavs with another thirty in this game, get twelve in

1118
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and hit a game time jumps out

1119
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: like a really nice step back jump shot through his

1120
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: legs against Josh Green on the right wing to tie

1121
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: the game with about a minute left. Cam Thomas is

1122
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: now now nine for nineteen on pull up jump shots

1123
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: this season, four for six on floaters. His shot making

1124
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: is real. We've just seen too many examples of it

1125
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: so far through the last two years. And again, the

1126
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: biggest indicator is that his teammates trust him at the

1127
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: end of these games. This is back to back games

1128
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: now that down the stretch of whether it's Spencer Dinwoodie

1129
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: or McHale Bridges, they're looking at Cam Thomas and being like,

1130
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: you do it and I think that's a huge indicator

1131
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: of where where he's at right now. Is an offensive

1132
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: shot creator. The Nets just have to figure out how

1133
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: to get stops in crunch time. They've had big leads

1134
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: down the stretch in both of these games, but they

1135
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: have a one to twenty three defensive rating in the

1136
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: clutch so far this year. So you've played well enough

1137
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: to be two to zero and instead you're zero to two,

1138
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: and that's the primary reason, and that's what they're gonna

1139
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: have to clean up. All right, let's get on the

1140
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: mail bag. So first mail back question, is there one

1141
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: singular skill possessed by a player that you think is

1142
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: better than the rest, maybe like Steph's three point shooting,

1143
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: Giannis's rim pressure, or Yokich's court vision. I think it's

1144
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: easily steph shooting. He was the only player in the

1145
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: league last year to hit over sixty percent in effective

1146
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: field goal percentage on pull up jump shots, and he

1147
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: was the only other guy in the league to attempt

1148
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: at least eleven threes per game last year. So there's

1149
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: two in the entire league Steph and Damian Lillard, and

1150
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: Dame shot five percent worse than him. So like it's

1151
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: Steph and then it's a huge gap, and then it's

1152
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: everyone else. I think his shooting is the best individual

1153
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: skill relative to the field in the league. Next mail

1154
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: back question. I am a twenty eight year old and

1155
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: casual hooper. Unfortunately, my squad continues to separate across the

1156
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: country as work spouses in life happens. Pulling up to

1157
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: La Fitness Slash elsewhere for runs with randoms as a

1158
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: nightmare old heads who can't run, cherry picking isostep back threes,

1159
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: et cetera. How do you suggest building a new squad

1160
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: to keep love for the game going. So I put

1161
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: this mail back question in here because I felt this one.

1162
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: I felt this one. I know exactly what you mean.

1163
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Pick Up hoop sucks. It just does. It's always going

1164
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: to be an inconsistent experience, even when you play in

1165
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: areas that are talented, because talent doesn't necessarily equate to

1166
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: guys who know how to play the game. And so

1167
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: here's what I would do if I were you, because,

1168
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: like I know, when I go play pick up basketball

1169
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: because I live in Tucson, two Son's big town, Like

1170
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: we have over a million people here. It's like one

1171
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: point two in the metro area or something like that.

1172
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: But Tucson's not a big basketball town. Like there's players

1173
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: like me that take the game very seriously, they're few

1174
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: and far between in this city, whereas, like when I

1175
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: lived in Charlotte, for every guy like me, there's twenty

1176
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: five others that took the game super seriously and then

1177
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: another fifty that were at a level just below that

1178
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: or like that, Like there's just a ton of players

1179
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: that give a shit about basketball, that that that live

1180
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: and breathe that shit when you live in Charlotte, That's

1181
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: just not what it was here in Tucson right now.

1182
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: As far as confronting that the quality of play, just

1183
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: embrace the fact that when you go play pick up

1184
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a crap shoot. Some days you'll go

1185
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: and it'll be great, and some days you'll go and

1186
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: it'll it'll be a shit show. Right, But that's just

1187
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: it is what it is at this point. Right Find

1188
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: a good men's league and find seven or eight guys

1189
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: that you know how to play with, and play with

1190
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: those every single time you play in your men's league.

1191
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: You'll build chemistry with those guys and that'll become the

1192
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: part that you look forward to like, I have a

1193
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: men's league here in town, a men's league team that

1194
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: I play and play with, and it's all guys I

1195
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: used to play in college, and they all take it

1196
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: very seriously. We have a ton of continuity. We've won

1197
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: the league three of the last four times. And so

1198
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: regardless of how shitty my pick up basketball experience can

1199
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: be on a day to day basis, I know I

1200
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: can go up there on Sunday and have fun playing

1201
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: with guys you know how to play. And then the

1202
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: other thing I'd say is coach. Find get into coaching.

1203
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: Coaching is a great way to recapture some of the

1204
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: joy from competent basketball when you were younger, within the

1205
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: concept of something that you can actually do at an

1206
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: older age, because in general, older age basketball is gonna

1207
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: be messy, right because we all have stuff going on,

1208
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: we're all busy, we all have other responsibilities. It's tough

1209
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: to get the same groups to the gym every single day.

1210
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: It's just difficult to coordinate, right. But when you're coaching

1211
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: a high school basketball team, the same kids are gonna

1212
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: be there every day and you can kind of scratch

1213
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: that competitivevich through the coaching side of things that you

1214
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: do through the playing side of things. All right, last

1215
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: mail back question for whom would you trade d lo

1216
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: and Ruey? I love Luca, but that's unlikely. It sounds

1217
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: like you're describing zach Lavine. But I'd rather have Trey

1218
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: Young because he'd set up a d better and they'd

1219
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: still have the length to make up for his size

1220
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: and defensive shortcomings. So I hate all of those options.

1221
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: Not a huge fan of zac Lavine. Luca obviously is impossible.

1222
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: Trey Young is a long shot, but I don't think

1223
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: he really fixes many of the Lakers' problems. The deal.

1224
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: My favorite deal that involves Ruey and d Lo is

1225
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: you wait till January fifteenth. You call it the Chicago Bulls,

1226
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: and you offer Ruey and d Lo and I don't know,

1227
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: maybe you can get it done for a second round pick.

1228
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you have to throw in it first. But

1229
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: you get DeMar de Rosen and Alex Crusoe salaries almost

1230
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: match up. You might have to throw in one other

1231
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: smaller contract to make it work, but you bring back

1232
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: DeMar Derozen, who helps with your half court shot creation.

1233
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: He's great passer and a good over the top shot maker.

1234
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Something that the Lakers struggle with, right, and then Alex

1235
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Cruso gives you that like dominant a perimeter defender and

1236
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: like you like because of Alex Cruso playing bigger than

1237
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: he actually is and his way his ability to defend

1238
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: on the defend on the perimeter, navigate screens. We literally

1239
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: just saw last night Alex Cruso flat out steal a

1240
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: game with defensive playmaking and a huge corner three as

1241
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: the Bulls came back from down bag to win a game.

1242
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: So like, like I kind of envisioned a scenario there

1243
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: where now you have Crusoe, Reeves, Derozen with Lebron and

1244
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Ad and just a ton of offensive skill, good perimeter defense.

1245
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: The only thing that would concern me there a little

1246
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: bit is like the wing rebounding thing, but Alex Cruso

1247
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: is really good at that and Lebron and Ad can

1248
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: make up for a lot of that, and then you

1249
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: still have your forwards coming off the bench and you

1250
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: kind of kind of can configure it in different ways.

1251
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: So that would be my dreamd Lo Rui trade would

1252
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: be for Alex Crusoe and Zach Levine. All right, guys,

1253
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: that's all I have for today as always as since

1254
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: really appreciate you for supporting the show and I will

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Speaker 1: see you guys on Monday. The Volume