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Speaker 1: Liliana Rasquez, and I'm Joseph Carrillo, and this is becoming

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Speaker 1: The year is nineteen ninety nine. Everyone was downloading music

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Speaker 1: can't take it. My palms are sweating. Tommy Mettola's newest protege,

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Speaker 1: back to the album. Okay, So what do you remember

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Speaker 1: about this? We got Jenny from the Block and all

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Speaker 1: I have with Elly, She set aside her dance pop

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Speaker 1: sound and let R and B and soul take the

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Speaker 1: front seat this time around, and that was a callback

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Speaker 1: to the sounds of the Bronx that she had grown

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Speaker 1: up with. Lopez was influenced by works of Michael Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Luther Van Dross, and Stevie Wonder, among others, and she

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Speaker 1: always said with this album she really tried to capture

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Speaker 1: their sound because their music made her quote heart sing

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Speaker 1: when you talk about this is me. Then it's an

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Speaker 1: interesting album because it got kind of mixed reviews from

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Speaker 1: music critics and from me first foremotion, here he goes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's get to the facts. It did sell two

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Speaker 1: point six million copies in the US, It did reach

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Speaker 1: number two on the Billboard two hundred and it went

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Speaker 1: out to sell six million copies world Why. So this

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Speaker 1: was a success whether the critics panned it or not.

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Speaker 1: But what really made it for me was simply one song.

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Speaker 1: It was the lead single, Jenny from the Block. That

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Speaker 1: video was hot. Now This is the Jennifer that I

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00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: usually dress up as for Halloween, for Jennifer themed parties.

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Speaker 1: This is my Saturday Saturdays when I go pick up

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Speaker 1: my kid from preschool. Hello, this is my Jennifer. Because,

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00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: by the way, this look is so back right now,

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00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: to the cargoes, the high heeled tims, the whole vibe,

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Speaker 1: the page boycap, her dancing in the streets in the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: This video for me, brought me back in a way

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Speaker 1: that I didn't realize I needed to be brought back

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Speaker 1: at the time, and even now when I watch it,

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Speaker 1: it's just pure nostalgia for me. There is such a

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Speaker 1: feel good vibe to old j Loo songs and that's

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Speaker 1: what fans really connect to. It takes us back to

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Speaker 1: the nineties. In two thousand and one. Things were different,

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00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: we didn't have social media. It just felt like a

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Speaker 1: simpler time. This video, for her, it was the old

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Speaker 1: Jalo and the new j Lo in the fight Oh

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Speaker 1: my God, like Norma Jean and Marilyn Monroe. Yes, who

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Speaker 1: will prevail? Right? So she had all of this glitz

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Speaker 1: and glam and attention. She was with Ben Athleck. She

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00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: was living the yacht life, right, but then she was like,

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Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, I'm still Jenny from the Block,

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Speaker 1: and she gave us the most poetic line ever written

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Speaker 1: in the history of me. I don't know which one

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Speaker 1: you're gonna say. What are you going to say? Don't

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Speaker 1: be fooled? Oh yeah, by the rocks that I got.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Okay, I'm going to frame that ship that

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Speaker 1: is really good? Is really good? Not even don't be

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Speaker 1: fooled by the rocks that I have. She could have

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Speaker 1: said no, but it would have been. But then you

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Speaker 1: can't rhyme it with blocks, and you can't be don't

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Speaker 1: be fooled by the rocks that I got. I'm still

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Speaker 1: I'm still Jenny from the block. Used to have a little,

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Speaker 1: Now I have a lot. Can you try it with

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Speaker 1: have and see? Don't be fooled by the rocks that

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Speaker 1: I have. It just doesn't go. It really just doesn't.

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00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. I was sorry, you can't sing that

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Speaker 1: line and they get your ass slapped by Ben Affleck

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Speaker 1: on a yacht. It doesn't work. It is a whole vibe,

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Speaker 1: my friends, well also things. Speaking of being a whole vibe,

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Speaker 1: it reached number two in the Billboards two hundred and

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Speaker 1: earned double platinum status in the US. That's right, and

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00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: that wasn't the only song on the album. We also

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Speaker 1: need to talk about I'm Glad, which a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't like, but honestly, this is one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite Jlo videos. I loved that song. It was so happy,

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Speaker 1: it was so happy, and that, to me, is the

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Speaker 1: best Jlo has ever moved in I'm Glad. So, in

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Speaker 1: case you guys don't remember this video, this is when

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00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: she kind of did that like flash dance rip off

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Speaker 1: and people were she's a richel thought in her mind,

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Speaker 1: but and she dances on the chair under the water.

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00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: So I was taking a dance class in New York

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Speaker 1: one of the first years that I moved there, and

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Speaker 1: I hired a private teacher to teach it to me,

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Speaker 1: and I quit after ten minutes. Yeah, it wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to happen. That is not a true story. Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: It's a true story. Have you seen the video? Yes? Okay.

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00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I just need to learn thirty seconds

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00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: of choreo and they're like, cool, no problem. So he

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00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: did it for me and I was, okay, I can

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00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: do this, y'all. I was twenty three at my peak

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00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: and couldn't even do ten seconds of the choreo no Bitch.

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Speaker 1: You saw him walk in with a bucket of water

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00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: and you were like, we're not doing this yet. It

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Speaker 1: is one of my favorite songs on that and she

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Speaker 1: honestly has never looked better. That's when we get her

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Speaker 1: in the leg warmers and little black undis and we

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Speaker 1: get curly hair j Lo, which personally I love her hair.

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Speaker 1: Oh natural, I love early bouncy hair Jlo, and it's

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Speaker 1: just all good. I kind of feel that curly hair

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Speaker 1: caused a frenzy. Well, it might have caused a frenzy,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly didn't cause a frenzy bigger than the

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Speaker 1: benefit of frenzy. But the frenzy around this pairing ultimately

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00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: became the catalyst for benefit breaking up. Yeah, they weren't overexposed.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to say it, and it actually really

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00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: negatively affected both of their careers. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: why I love them. They called it quits, resulting in

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Speaker 1: one of the singer's biggest heartbreaks ever. And he was

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Speaker 1: Jennifer's muse. This was the man that inspired this whole

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Speaker 1: album and on This Is Me, then she had more

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Speaker 1: co writing credits on this album than any of her

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Speaker 1: previous albums, and the most interesting writing on the whole

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Speaker 1: album the dedication girl, let me read it to you.

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Speaker 1: You are my life, my soul, inspiration for every lyric,

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Speaker 1: every motion, every bit of feeling on this record. Come on,

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Speaker 1: it's really romantic. Jay Loo loves to be in love,

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Speaker 1: and y'all, she was head over heels for Ben, just

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Speaker 1: that sentence alone when she's saying the rock says she

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00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: got and now she's like, you are my life, my

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00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: sole inspiration for every lyric. She was definitely fucking in love.

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Speaker 1: When she looks back at this album. Here's what Jennifer

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Speaker 1: had to say about this is me then. She said,

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Speaker 1: twenty years from now, if I give this album to

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Speaker 1: one of my kids, I'll be like, this was me then.

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Speaker 1: At that moment, it was all very telling about where

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Speaker 1: she was in her life. And I have to point

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Speaker 1: out that now that here we are in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Ben and jen back together, it was destiny and by

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Speaker 1: the way, he is the only man that she has

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Speaker 1: ever made this kind of romantic gesture too, not even

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Speaker 1: to Mark Anthony, the father of her kids. Jayla has

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Speaker 1: gone on to say that that's her favorite album out

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Speaker 1: of all of the ones she's ever recorded, because it's

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00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: the most vulnerable she's ever been on a record. After

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00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: the Benefit explosion, it took a lot for her to

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00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: rebuild herself. Everything had gotten to her and Homegirl was

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00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: feeling soups to Presso. Yeah, she had fired her longtime manager,

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Speaker 1: Benny Medina. He was the man who basically put her

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Speaker 1: on the map. She called off her wedding to Ben

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Speaker 1: and then got married to Mark Anthony a year later.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot, but she still managed to release

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00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: her fourth record, Rebirth, in two thousand and five. Alexis

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00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: Petritus of The Guardian had remarked that the album title

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00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: suggests that even Lopez has realized that something is amiss

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00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: with her career, and despite the highlights, you're still left

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00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: pondering the question what happened to Jennifer Lopez? On the

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Speaker 1: next Becoming an Icon Girl, it's a twenty year career.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot more to say about the music, yes,

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Speaker 1: and since we're talking about music, you got to know

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