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Speaker 1: a loss three and three, now, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: unloading quite a few players at the trade deadline. They

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Speaker 1: But you never get too excited about an opponent because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean five scoring opportunities, five field goals. You know,

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Speaker 2: All right, they stacked the box and they basically said,

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Speaker 2: And credit to Herbert man, he's he's fighting. Obviously, he's

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Speaker 2: it's it's tough. And they pressured him. Herbert's the highest

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's a penalty. Everyone's mad about it, but he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't second get yourself money. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: That's different problem.

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Speaker 2: Right This is a bang bang play on the sideline

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, one of my and I

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Speaker 2: No, it's not because of the flags, because the flags

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things that I appreciated coming

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Speaker 2: And it sounds cliche money because people always say defense

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Speaker 2: and it's different. And I was with him Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: and Kyler Murray. I played them both in the open field,

428
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Speaker 2: and it's a different beast to stop. I'm just gonna

429
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Speaker 2: keep it real with you, right, So I understand Junior

430
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Speaker 2: Colson's task or trying to keep him going on that

431
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Speaker 2: one on one run.

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Speaker 1: So uh, with all that, and it was funny, I

433
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Speaker 1: just want to say, like people that that that know,

434
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Speaker 1: Junior's fast man, Junior's got some speed running.

435
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Speaker 2: He's running.

436
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Speaker 1: He looked like he was stuck in mud. Like that's

437
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Speaker 1: how cartoonish the speed is of Kyler Murray. Like that's

438
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Speaker 1: not a big lumbering linebacker. That dude can run money.

439
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Speaker 2: It's real. I remember two years ago on Christmas Night,

440
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 2: I played Kyler Murray open field middlefield safety. I'm coming down,

441
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,679
Speaker 2: it's one on one. He breaks. I literally have to

442
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Speaker 2: take an angle high to the pylon to catch him.

443
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 2: Like the dude's different. Okay, so he's he's he's something different.

444
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: There's guys like him. There's guys like Lamar that you're

445
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Speaker 2: going to play that. These guys at the speed at

446
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Speaker 2: the quarterback position is something that you don't see on

447
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Speaker 2: the everyday Sunday right right. So credit to the Cardinals, man,

448
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: you got to give him credit. They did what they

449
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Speaker 2: were supposed to do. But I think the Chargers come out,

450
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Speaker 2: they make the corrections. I'm just interested to see if

451
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Speaker 2: there's any movement.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you, So I'm just gonna

453
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Speaker 1: ask hu Jalil. Yeah. My thing is so that the

454
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Speaker 1: trade deadlines November fifth, right, happens to be a very

455
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Speaker 1: important Tuesday in the country for the Chargers because will

456
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Speaker 1: they make a trade that's what I'm talking about. But

457
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Speaker 1: I'm very hopeful. I'm hopeful that DJ chart because I

458
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Speaker 1: think he was close this week and I'm hopeful he

459
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Speaker 1: can get out there because I think that's maybe what's

460
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Speaker 1: holding up kind of how they're going to approach this,

461
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Speaker 1: you know. Is it a small addition, is it a

462
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Speaker 1: big swing? Like? And I look at the Jets right

463
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Speaker 1: at two and five, and what they're thinking, is it

464
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Speaker 1: Mike Williams for a late round pick and you'll take

465
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Speaker 1: on all the salary, or is it Garrett Wilson for

466
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Speaker 1: a high pickum pick because you want him to be

467
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Speaker 1: your number one with Justin Herbert moving forward, and you're

468
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Speaker 1: going to pick up the fifth year option and get

469
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Speaker 1: a couch like. And I think a lot of that

470
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Speaker 1: has to do with what Chark has, you know, because

471
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Speaker 1: that's what he is. Chark's the guy that's got to

472
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Speaker 1: get this thing to breathe He's the four to three guy,

473
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Speaker 1: six foot two hundred pounds, fifty to fifty ball guy.

474
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Speaker 2: Down to the top off the defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think they want to see That's my guess.

476
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Speaker 1: Is they want to see is he is he our addition?

477
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Speaker 1: Is he our trade deadline edition? That can now get

478
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Speaker 1: this thing to open up and breathe. And I think,

479
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Speaker 1: like to me, the other thing too is I think

480
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Speaker 1: there's you know, Will Disley's been great as advertised and

481
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Speaker 1: then some. But I think you see kind of what

482
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Speaker 1: Herbert has available. Man, if you've got a top shelf

483
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Speaker 1: tight end, if you've got a George Kittle, a Sam

484
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Speaker 1: laporta Dalton Kincaid, if you've got one of those guys, man,

485
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Speaker 1: Herbert can make people pay, you know. And so I

486
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Speaker 1: wonder if that's something else at David and Joku, something

487
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Speaker 1: like that that they could start thinking about with all

488
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Speaker 1: the tight end for you know, when the twelve and

489
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Speaker 1: the thirteen that they're playing. The idea of having and

490
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Speaker 1: Jokuho out there, Disley and you know something Hunter Henry,

491
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Speaker 1: something along those lines I think is an interesting maybe path,

492
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Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, you never know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see. But just going back to

494
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Speaker 2: what you said about dj Chart, it's at the end

495
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Speaker 2: of they have a question for you money do you

496
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Speaker 2: think him coming back? Is he a number one receiver?

497
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Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, justin Herbert does

498
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Speaker 2: not have a number one receiver right now? Where you

499
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Speaker 2: scheme for him where you draw the offense up around him,

500
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Speaker 2: where teams have to say, you know what, we're taking

501
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Speaker 2: this guy away. We have to be honest and roll

502
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Speaker 2: in the safety down in the box because we have

503
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Speaker 2: to rotate the coverage to this certain receiver. Is chart

504
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Speaker 2: that guy?

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Speaker 1: Right? And I think there's a look, he's a former

506
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Speaker 1: number one pick, he's a former thousand yard season guy.

507
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Speaker 1: He's a four to three guy, so he's got like

508
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Speaker 1: there's there's those things there, but just thirteen or is fourteen?

509
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Speaker 1: Like I think that kind of and Okay, is that injury?

510
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Speaker 1: Is that production? Is that? You know? So that's kind

511
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Speaker 1: of what I was getting at, right, I think I

512
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Speaker 1: think that's where the whole Garrett Wilson, you know, Deontay

513
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Speaker 1: Johnson's another guy that's being mentioned. You know, guys that

514
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Speaker 1: have those traits, those number one traits. So like, look,

515
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Speaker 1: I've got belief that Lad's going to be an exceptional

516
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Speaker 1: receiver in this line. I think we have seen a

517
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Speaker 1: huge jump in the production for Q, for Quinn and

518
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: and that this this staff has figured out, Okay, this

519
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Speaker 1: is how we use him and how we can have

520
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Speaker 1: him as like I never thought of Q as like

521
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Speaker 1: that red zone threat. But I think it's clear. Yeah,

522
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Speaker 1: he kind of is, Like they figure out how to

523
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Speaker 1: scheme it up and use that body. So I get

524
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Speaker 1: exact I think I know exactly what you're asking, right, Like, hey,

525
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Speaker 1: if you got Q and Ladd and now you drop

526
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Speaker 1: in one, not not just like the guy that's.

527
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Speaker 2: And we and my coach in college used to say,

528
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Speaker 2: don't be a jag jag, just just a guy, right,

529
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about just a guy because Herbert's not

530
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Speaker 2: just a guy. He needs a guy guy to throw

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Speaker 2: the ball to. And it's no disrespect to Q. It's

532
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Speaker 2: no disrespect to Lad because like you said, for the record,

533
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Speaker 2: those guys will be and Q has made a big jump, right,

534
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Lad's going to be a big time receiver in this league.

535
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Speaker 2: But he's young, right, he's learning, he's learning the speed

536
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: of the game. And right now all the weight is

537
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: on his shoulders to go make the plays. Right, and

538
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: he's in the slot. It's really hard for a guy

539
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Speaker 2: in the slot to be the main main target because

540
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Speaker 2: you can do so much. You could double the slot

541
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: so much with the backer with the safety. Right, So

542
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about a guy outside. Look look at the

543
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: buffalo Bills, right, they just went and grabbed a market. Now,

544
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Speaker 2: Amark Cooper is a true number one, no doubt. Before that,

545
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen was playing with Jags, right, and it just

546
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: is what it is. They they drafted Coleman Shakira and

547
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Speaker 2: he's he's been balling. Yeah, he's been balling. But I'm

548
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: talking about when when when it's crunch time and we

549
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Speaker 2: have to make a play on third down, red zone,

550
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Speaker 2: everyone in the stadium knows that justin Herbert's first read

551
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: is going to this guy, right and right now, I

552
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Speaker 2: just if I'm scheming the Chargers, right, I don't see

553
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: a guy that I'm scheming for saying that this is

554
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Speaker 2: who we just need to take away. I say we

555
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: need to stop the run. I say we need to

556
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: pressure Herbert and let the chips fall where they may.

557
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: In our Mandy Man coverage and.

558
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Speaker 1: I think you see it weekend and week out, and

559
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: you know we left Josh Palmer off that list. Not

560
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Speaker 1: because of ability. He's got all the ability. It's just

561
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Speaker 1: I think he's I feel like Josh isn't because he's

562
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: too He's too good a guy. He's not going to complain.

563
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Speaker 1: But I think he's just I think he's dinged up again. Man,

564
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Speaker 1: I think he's just hurting. He's not one hundred percent.

565
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: But I think you saw on that two minute drill,

566
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Speaker 1: those back to back catches everything you need from Josh Palmer. Well,

567
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Speaker 1: he got hurt on that, you know he got he.

568
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: Took a shot, dinged up, he got dinged up.

569
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Speaker 1: And what's he do immediately pops up and and you

570
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Speaker 1: see there's you know, certain things you can see on film.

571
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Speaker 2: Right, but I need one. I need to play right.

572
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Speaker 1: And then what happens? They don't get him. He runs

573
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Speaker 1: down the right sideline and Herbert lets that thing go

574
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Speaker 1: before he even gets into his break to come back.

575
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Speaker 1: And like that's what it was beautiful, right, and Josh,

576
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Speaker 1: you know that's this.

577
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. The throw was the catch was even more beautiful.

578
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: For a guy that just had his hand up saying,

579
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: hey man, come get me. And so that I think

580
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about Josh. And

581
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Speaker 1: if you can now get that rotation with Josh and

582
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Speaker 1: Q and Lad with what you're talking.

583
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: About exactly, now you have a complete receiver corps. Yes,

584
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: right now, you're not asking guys to do what they're

585
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: not meant to do right right if we have if

586
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: the Charges have a number one, and you have Joshua Palmer,

587
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: you have Ladd, and you have Q. Listen, Herbert is

588
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: smiling from ear to ear right now.

589
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Speaker 1: It just is I say this, and I will say

590
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Speaker 1: this for people that want to second guess the draft.

591
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: If you told me they could do it all over again,

592
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I'll still take all, Slater and all after watching them. Now,

593
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: these last two games Denver and Arizona, you were talking

594
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: about pressure. It's all coming up the middle. Those guys

595
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: are locked. It's the best tackle tandem in the league.

596
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: And you'll see receivers move. You'll see Amari Cooper move.

597
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: You'll see Devontana's I was gonna never unless you have

598
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: a Trent williamsitchwation where he tells the Washington the Commanders,

599
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm never playing for you again. Those guys don't move,

600
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: they don't get there's a reason why.

601
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: Great point. Great point, and let's be real. In this draft,

602
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: you'll see another receiver. That's you'll see four receivers in

603
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: the top fifteen right exactly. And you'll see week in

604
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: and week out, season after season, trade deadline, big time,

605
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: superstar war, receivers are being traded, but like you said,

606
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: you never see movement in a big time tackle because

607
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: they're so valuable. So I totally agree with you there.

608
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you were to put if you like,

609
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: let's just take the Patriots for example, what a mess there.

610
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: Old line is they would trade their number one for

611
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater, Like it'll be a top five pick and

612
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: they'll say, take it, We'll give us Slater because those

613
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: guys are just they're too hard to find.

614
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: He's proven, he's proven.

615
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: So that's I've got to believe they're looking. I've got

616
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: to believe that they're looking, especially in the case of

617
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: like the Deontay Johnson's the Mike Williams. You take on

618
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: the salary, you give up a late pick, but you

619
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: can get back a late pick because the comp picks.

620
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: You know, those guys arom thet it's one year deals,

621
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Speaker 1: so they're going to walk and you can get all

622
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: that stuff.

623
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Speaker 2: And Mike's familiar with Herbert, right.

624
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: So like that one seems so easy, right, that one

625
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: makes sense? Yeah, And for the people I would you know,

626
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: I get your opinion on this, Julia, Like Hopkins, isn't

627
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: that guy he provides something. You need a guy that

628
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: can go, that can take the top off. They need

629
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: to get defense. They' getting to get the offense to

630
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: gap some breathing room. That's not Hop. He's got great hands,

631
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: it's quick, it's it's underneath.

632
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: He's physical.

633
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: Yet and I play with Hop.

634
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: I play with Hop and Hop as a dog. But

635
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: I play with Hop in twenty nineteen, right, So he's

636
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: not the same d Hop. Right, So I if they

637
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: go and get Hop, I'm like, I'm not, really, that's

638
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: not what we're looking because we got that in JA.

639
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: We got that in JP, we got that in Q.

640
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: We got exactly right.

641
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: You need a guy that can go go right, stretch

642
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: the field, let Herbert use his arm, stretch it deep balls,

643
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: deep in breaking cuts, deep high seven routes, chunk plays.

644
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: We're looking for chunk plays, is what we're speaking.

645
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm looking at it now. Right, you've got

646
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the Panthers Deontay Johnson one win. Right, you've got I'm

647
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: coherently go to the league you've got Obviously, the Patriots

648
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: know nothing there Browns. They already traded Amari Cooper Titans.

649
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Calvin Ridley's quite that guy anymore. Seems

650
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: like he's kind of lost the lemon. That could be

651
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: an interesting one.

652
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: Would be Calvin really would be a one.

653
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a legitimate possibility because he clearly is

654
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: not happy there.

655
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: There's no quarterback there.

656
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: He's got what's he got? Calvin Ridley's got twelve receptions

657
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: for one hundred and eighty three yards and man, he

658
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: was a stud, a freaking stud. So that's possible. He's

659
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: been dinged up a little bit. I don't know what

660
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: his contract is. I'd have to kind of.

661
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: He got paid money, he got paid.

662
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's one that could be a little tricky, tough,

663
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: but that's one. Let's see who else is is? We

664
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: already talked about Mike Williams on the Jets, Giants, no

665
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Saints coming to town. You know, maybe you guys don't

666
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: want to take Chris Alave back with you. Maybe you'd

667
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: just like to leave them, just leave like that will

668
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: give you.

669
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: We'll give you some in and out burger in the suitcase.

670
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Right. That would be interesting, if you know, if the

671
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: Chargers do what they're supposed to do and the Saints

672
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: drop the two and six, right, and they got to

673
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: really start thinking about a rebuild a lot and if

674
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: you look here, let me just make sure I got

675
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: this right, because I remember I started prepping for the

676
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: game on Sunday and I remember looking it. I'm like, man,

677
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: that's it for a lot. Yeah, A Lave's only got uh,

678
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: he's only got two hundred and eighty yards through six games, man, Like,

679
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: and a Lave is ace dud, Yes he is. He

680
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: is a number one. Yes he is a legitimate number one.

681
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: So I think that's one exactly exactly right. So, like,

682
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: that's one that I think could be interesting. That's that's

683
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what we're talking about, right, is

684
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: that possibility out there the Jets Garrett Wilson. I don't

685
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: think Cooper cups that guy. I think I think I

686
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: think that's more We got that in lad exactly.

687
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: But I'm saying that's his ceiling, right, right.

688
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're talking about. I don't know

689
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: if the Dolphins would think about moving Waddle. That's a

690
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: big contract to take on.

691
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Though contract contract.

692
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: But I do think there's some of those there's a

693
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: little bit of opportunity out there. There's gonna be some

694
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: guys perhaps made available. And I think it depends on

695
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: what's the cash situation, what's the drafting compensation moduation.

696
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: It's the cash situation.

697
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's it's uh. I think it's easy for

698
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: people to look at the valuations of these teams and

699
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: just assume that they got deep pockets. But it's like, yeah,

700
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: the second you trade for Mike Williams, you got to

701
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: write a check for four million bucks. The second you

702
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: trade for Garrett Wilson, you've got to be thinking about, Okay,

703
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be writing a check in the offseason for

704
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars, you know, and guarantee so like that.

705
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: And and remember this, this ownership group just started writing

706
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: checks for about twenty to twenty two three million dollars

707
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: a year for their coaching staff. I mean, you're talking

708
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: about a massive jump of of what they're paying every

709
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: year for. And you better believe that Jesse Minner might

710
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: be in store for a raise this this offseason. If

711
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: you're not get.

712
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: Someone coming, if not, somebody's come knocking, someone's.

713
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna get interviews and having sat with and

714
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you know it, Jalil, You've been around him, sit with

715
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: him and chat with him, he's gonna interview well, he's

716
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: he's got he's got it. He's not a jag. This

717
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 1: this guy special. This this guy is special. And you know,

718
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: if you want to say, hey, just make sure it's

719
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: the right, you know, a Ben Johnson type situation. Make

720
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: sure it's the exact situation you want, because it's gonna

721
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: be there before you go chase one of them down.

722
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's us, uh playing the Joe Ortiz role,

723
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: which I'm sure he appreciates, and the Dean spanos, Hey,

724
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: we want to spend your money. We want to we

725
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: want to spend your money for you exactly. We're gonna

726
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: spend your money, and Joe, we're gonna spend your draft capital.

727
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing here on this pot. We understand

728
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: that there's a lot more that goes into it. I

729
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: think the exercise that we're kind of doing here is

730
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: just who do we think is available? Who do we

731
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: think depending on if you can find some common ground,

732
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: I think Deontay Johnson, Calvin Ridley, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson,

733
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: those would.

734
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Be we're the most intriguing to make money.

735
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: One more, that's interesting, that's a little bit different Christian

736
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: kirk Kirk. Yeah, kirk Kirk can go little as a

737
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: number one. That's what I'm wondering. Like, I think he's

738
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: shown in the past that he's been the number one.

739
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: If he's very productive. He's very productive. I will say that.

740
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, he's got he's got size. He's almost six foot.

741
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: He's a legit to But I think he's a little

742
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: bit he's not necessarily god that you see on the outside.

743
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: He's a slot guy. That's what he's an inside And

744
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: we have that, right we have that right now.

745
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so those uh, that's what's available. So

746
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: here we go. Here's the thing about the Saints game,

747
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: and and I hate doing it, but I think it's

748
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: the same exercise we performed against the Cardinals, right bottom

749
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: three team against the run. It's gonna be a JK.

750
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Dobbins game. Let's go gash him. Pankers got him for

751
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy, you know. And and here's what

752
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: you here's what you're facing against the Saints. Dead last

753
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: in yards per total defense, dead last three hundred ninety

754
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: five yards allowed per game, twenty six points per game,

755
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: twenty ninth against the run, twenty eighth against the pass,

756
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: dead last in yards per play on defense. And then

757
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: what's just a big knon sign for Jalil where the

758
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: what's the only category where they're good? Red zone defense?

759
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Third third best red zone d teams? So right, it's

760
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: a it's a lot of yards.

761
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: And then exactly right, So and Spencer's starting correct, Cars.

762
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: Well, at least injury report. Yeah, yesterday car did not

763
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: practice with the oblique and they kind of already alluded

764
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: to week nine is what they're looking at potentially for

765
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: his return. So I think it's gonna So if.

766
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm on if I'm on defense, I'm salivating, right, So,

767
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: and once again, don't just roll the ball out there

768
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: and think because we all Chargers got Alvin Kamara uniforms,

769
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: we're gonna win. Right, This is the NFL. These guys

770
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: are all paid where they're all world class athletes. But

771
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: with that being said, if the Chargers do what they're

772
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: supposed to do in all three phases, this game on

773
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: Sunday shouldn't even be close.

774
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look at him, and it was a

775
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: short week, but look at what the Denver defense did

776
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: to them one hundred and seventy two yards on thirty

777
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: five dropbacks. They sacked them six times. You know. And

778
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: if you tell me I can either have the Denver

779
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: pass rush or the Chargers pass rush, I'm gonna take

780
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: the Chargers pass rush every time. And they got them

781
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: six times. So it's it's definitely lined up for sure.

782
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's definitely lined up for them. And

783
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, so Tampa hung fifty one on them, Denver

784
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: hung thirty three on them. That's eighty four points of

785
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: offense the last two weeks, their last two opponents. You'd

786
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: love that.

787
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: Tell hate that tells me money, this is the week

788
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: you get the offense rolling. This is the week you

789
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: line up the scoreboard and you get caught, right, guys, Yeah,

790
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: it just is what it is like. That should be

791
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: your expectation, that should be your goal coming into this week. Yeah,

792
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: you have to put the work in, and I'm sure

793
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: they have done that up to this point. Today is Thursday,

794
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: so it's a third down day that they're working on

795
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: third down in the red zone.

796
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: So it's a big day.

797
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: It's a big day. It's a big day to day,

798
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: big day for the offense exactly exactly. So this would

799
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: be the game that they're looking schematic wise, one on one,

800
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: wise matchup wise, anyway to explore that defense and get

801
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: chunk plays, because like you said, they're pretty they're pretty

802
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: stingy in the red zone, right, So that's another thing

803
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: that Gero is gonna have to do is kind of

804
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: see what they do well, what has beat them in

805
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: the red zone and try to copycat. League is shit

806
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: for this weekend.

807
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing I'd love to have you, if

808
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: you don't mind, dig into, is sort of past you know,

809
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: pass protection versus run blocking, because you watch kind of

810
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: the way that Zion is an unbelievable run blocker. I mean,

811
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: he is just a road grader. Kind of walk us through,

812
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the challenges of hey, you're really good

813
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: at this one thing and we're trying to kind of

814
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: tune up this other thing. Because that's you mentioned the

815
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: pressure and I had mentioned the tackles. All that pressure

816
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: is coming inside. It's it's all kind of right into

817
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Herbert's lap. Is sort of where it's been. Alton and

818
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Slater have been exceptional, and I think with pitt Bows

819
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: and Zion these last couple of weeks, it's there's been

820
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff kind of coming to the middle.

821
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: But the run blocking has been great. I know you

822
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't think that based on what the production was, but

823
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: when you go back and watch, like you're seeing these

824
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: guys execute blocks, Yeah, so kinda what do you think

825
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: is like, what do you think has to be tuned

826
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: up on that interior there to try to get that right?

827
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: So I'm a defensive guy, so I always like using

828
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: defense examples when I look at interior offensive lineman, I

829
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: look at a box safety, right, guy who's physical, a

830
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: guy who's good against the run, a guy who plays downhill,

831
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: loves one on one contact and wants to get down

832
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: and dirty. And that's what the inside offensive line. That's

833
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: what the guards are, That's what centers are, right, And

834
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: then you look at tackles and their corners, their corners

835
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: in the secondary, the's a lot on their feet. You know,

836
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: they get a lot of one on one matchups. They

837
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: got to guard probably the most freakish athletes in the

838
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: world on the edge with different moves, hands. So the

839
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: biggest thing with an interior offensive lineman is its feet.

840
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: It's communication because there's a lot of stunts, right, There's

841
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: a lot of stunts, a lot of te stunts, there's

842
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: a lot of picks, So it's pre snap communication and

843
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: not only pre snap communication. Once the ball snapped, now

844
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Zion should be saying, look for the pick. Here comes

845
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: a pick to your left, to your left, to my right,

846
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: to right. You're talking during the play, right, So you

847
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: guys all have to work synergetically together to make it

848
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: sound like one choir, one accord. Right. So when when

849
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: the struggle is when teams force them to do one

850
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: on ones and make them move their feet more than

851
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: they want to, or if the Senate doesn't have a

852
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: body over him and he knows, okay, well, this is

853
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 2: where we're turning the pressure. This is where we're turning

854
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: the protection to Now I can Helpion. Zion knows that

855
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: the pressure's coming to me. I can overset just a

856
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: little bit because I know the center's coming to me.

857
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of it has to do

858
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: not just physical ability, but it has to do with

859
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: pre snap communication, post snap communication, and what you've seen

860
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: throughout the week and your preparation on the field and

861
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: from the scout team.

862
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's one I'm going to keep

863
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: an eye on. The other is just he's back, man.

864
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I see Joey Bosa on the injury report

865
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: and it's the first time I've seen limited instead of DNP.

866
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: So I think we're talking about a guy that took

867
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: six sacs last week and now you get Bosa back

868
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: out there. There's still a lot of issues with this

869
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: injury report. You got Darius Davis out there with the

870
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: DNP and that's I think a big reason why Rager

871
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: was activated over someone like Jaylen Johnson, just for the

872
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: punt returnabilities, you know, and the kickoff return abilities. You

873
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: got Will Disley on a d NP with a shoulder issue.

874
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst. We know they haven't put him on IR yet.

875
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like that's been discussed, so you

876
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: hope he can get back out there. Quintin DNP again

877
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: with that ankle. Lad showed up with a hip and

878
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Paarriman showed up with a toe. All guys that did

879
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday were doing this on Thursday morning, So

880
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. You know, Christian only

881
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: got out there for seven snaps. You know, you credit

882
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: him for trying to give it a go, you know,

883
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: with that hammy, But I think that's that's something when

884
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: you've got a lave. I know, Shaheat is now out.

885
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: I think did they put him on?

886
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Ir?

887
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: I think they put Shieat on they put r Yeah,

888
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: so you still got a very good, you know, group

889
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: of pass catchers and you know Kamara out of the backfield.

890
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: A lave is a legitimate number one. But I think

891
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: it's important, folks, and they posted on the Chargers dot

892
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: com website, so nothing you can do about it. It's

893
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: like the guys are injured. The eye on it. Just

894
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: keep your eye on it. And so I'll wrap with this,

895
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: Juliell just in case they do it a week early

896
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: because all these guys are moving. Now. Do you think

897
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: they make a move? You think this is a team

898
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: that acquires a player before the deadline.

899
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: I think they have to. Will they I'm not sure,

900
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: but I think you have to. You have a guy

901
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: behind center ten who is needing. He can't throw the

902
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: ball to himself, and no, shade, I'm not criticizing the player, right,

903
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: I'm criticizing the performance right now. And it's a production league.

904
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: It's a what have you done for me lately? League? Right,

905
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: And that's strictly what is based off of and right now,

906
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: he can't throw the ball to himself. He needs to

907
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: find or have somebody brought in who can create separation

908
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: at a high rate to where he can showcase his talent.

909
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it's scheme. I don't

910
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: know if it's lack of ability, which I don't want

911
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: to say it is, because I've seen these guys flash.

912
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: I was there in training camp. I've seen them flash.

913
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Watching them throughout this whole season, I've seen them flash.

914
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: But it's just not enough. And if you want to

915
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: take this team to where this team can go with

916
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: his stifling defense, this really strong special teams, this running

917
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: game that has been really successful for the most of

918
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: most of the season, you have to become more than

919
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: just one dimensional. Teams are going to stack the box,

920
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: and if you're one dimensional, it's going to be hard

921
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: to get these w's down this stretch.

922
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think here's I think this is an analogy

923
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: that I hope works for the people listening or watching

924
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: on YouTube wherever you're consuming this. It's a basketball team, right,

925
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: So they've got their point guard in lad mcconkeey, they've

926
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: got their their three in Josh Palmer. They've got their

927
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: four in Quentin Johnson. They need the volume score, they

928
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: need the shooting guard they've got to go get. You know,

929
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's a shooting guard. Chris Alave is a shooting gut.

930
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: That's the guy that's your twenty point per game guy

931
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: right now, what they need. So like that's that's the

932
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: one thing they're missing. And you know, I kind of

933
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: look at Josh Palmer, he's like your three and D guy.

934
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: You know. I look at at Quinton he's your power forward.

935
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna you know, those just kind of quicks use.

936
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: That physicality can do some damage in the in the

937
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: end zone. We've seen that now this year. But they

938
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: got to get that volume score.

939
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: Many that's money. It's it's kind of it's glaring. Yeah, right,

940
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: it's not a secret. It's the elephant in the room

941
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: that should be addressed. Honestly.

942
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. That takes you to dance, though, you know, you

943
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: can't dance with yourself, so you got to hopefully find

944
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: a partner. That's that's we knew the Raiders weren't going

945
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: to trade them. You know, the Raiders were not going

946
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: to trade them. Tonty Adams would the Broncos trade them

947
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. I don't think so, not after improving, you know,

948
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: because they in the race too. Yeah, they got a

949
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: great defense. It's Sean Payton. I don't see them moving

950
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton to a team in the in the division,

951
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: even though I suspect he's going to be gone after

952
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: the season, you know, so that may get them to

953
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: do that, but I don't see that happening. So to me,

954
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of the Mike Williams, Deontay Johnson,

955
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Calvin Ridley, those are kind of

956
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, in Joku Hunter Henry, you know, the

957
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: the tight end path then Joku Henry. And also since

958
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: we're having since we're spending people's money in draft capital,

959
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: let's not forget about corner man how important that position is.

960
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: And the fact that you've got a sante on I are,

961
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: you've got Christian dealing with a hamsterring. You know, those

962
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: things can dog you all year. You're relying on two

963
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: fifth round rookies at this point, like I keep saying

964
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: the name, and I don't know what it would you know,

965
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: what it would take to acquire them but man, Greg

966
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: Newsom is going into his fifth year and and I

967
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: think if you can find that that corner, that's another

968
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: one that that maybe just to protect yourself if injuries continue,

969
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, when you when you get below your starters

970
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: and you're in rookies, you know, in this league against

971
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes against Josh Allen and the

972
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills against you know, if George Picken and the Steelers,

973
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: like I think you need to think about the playoffs,

974
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: because this looks like a playoff team, and that would

975
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: be I don't know if you agree. That would be

976
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of the one other thing I think about well for.

977
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: Sure, and that was kind of my thought going into

978
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: the season. But right now, if I'm going to choose one,

979
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to a receiver. Yeah, going into the season,

980
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: just being around the team, just being a fan now

981
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: of the organization, corner wide receiver. It was my two

982
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: biggest question marks obviously injuries at the corner position. But

983
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: the two young guys have not quote unquote lost as games.

984
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Right They've held up pretty decent for being thrown into

985
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: the fire. Right now, I think it's Herbert needs a weapon,

986
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: and he needs a weapon.

987
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: Now yeah, yeah, well the trade deadline. Let's see today's

988
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, so we'll still do one more of these

989
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: by the time the deadline rolls around. But it seems

990
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: like guys are moving. Draft capital is moving, and you

991
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: do not want to be standing there without a partner.

992
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: You don't want to be the last one waiting for

993
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: the outside looking in. Exactly right, So we'll see whether

994
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: or not they make the move. Excited about this game

995
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Like you said, it lines up to be

996
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: a get right game for the offense. Would love to

997
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: see them score their first touchdown, as they have not

998
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: done that in the last six quarters. It would be

999
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: nice to get that thing out of the way straight

1000
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: out the gates. I might even think about taking the

1001
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: ball if I win the coin toss and just going out,

1002
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: ramming it right down and just saying here we go.

1003
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: It's a statement the team to the Saints, everyone in

1004
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: the stadium and my team like, we're taking the ball

1005
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: and we're trying to get the offense started hot. Defense,

1006
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: don't worry about to get on the bike, get warmed

1007
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: up and start going over different plays, what you think

1008
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: and what the first fifteen might be. But offense. We're

1009
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: trying to get this thing hot.

1010
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you win the coin toss, we want the ball

1011
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: and we're going to score. I know that did not

1012
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: turn out well when that was announced in overtime, but

1013
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: perhaps it'll change this time around. All right, Julia, we appreciate,

1014
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you. Thank you for listening. Would

1015
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: love it if you don't mind leave a review, leave

1016
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: a rating for the podcast, comment, subscribe on the YouTube.

1017
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: We appreciate all you. We'll be back again next week

1018
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll be talking about a Chargers victory. And

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: I promise. I know it's not the most popular thing,

1020
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: but it's popular enough that people keep asking me. I

1021
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: could not do the Instagram live after the game in Arizona.

1022
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 1: I did not put head to pillow until one thirty

1023
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: am and was not gonna was not gonna do it

1024
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: on Tuesday with the near beer. But I'll be doing

1025
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: I promise on Sunday night. I got nothing, kids, got

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Speaker 1: no shows, so I'll be home beer in hand. We'll

1027
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: go over at Winter Loss. Hopefully we'll be celebrating a

1028
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: win together. I'll do that on the on the Instagram

1029
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: as well. Maybe Jialil will hopefully I could join you man. Yeah, dude,

1030
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: pop in the little little Instagram live request. We'll get

1031
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: Jalil in there. We'll be chopping it up real Matt

1032
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: money Smith is Instagram. Uh so we'll do that on

1033
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Speaker 1: Sunday night. But until then, thanks everybody, We appreciate it.

1034
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Shout out to Greg for getting our levels right, because man,

1035
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: he does the heavy lifting here. We'll be back next

1036
00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: week