1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: How much your role changes when you're uh out here 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: at camp and and watching some of these undrafted guys 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: are back in. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Rookie guys can. 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 3: Be Yeah, just looking for competition every day. Uh. I 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 3: think the biggest thing from when you look at the 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: ninety man roster from last year to this year is 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: improving the depth. You know, we don't want anybody to 9 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: be comfortable every day. We wanted to make sure, hey, 10 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: everyone has to earn their check. And uh, I think 11 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: at whatever level you are on the roster, the undrafted 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: guys are gonna give in uh equal opportunity. You see 13 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: how many rookies have we played last year and s 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: you know it's merit base. You know best Man was out. 15 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Be testament to that was how m many uh undrafted 16 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: guys you had last year. Just suppose what you guys 17 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: have this year, is that a testament to the depth 18 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: you guys built last season as supposed to where you 19 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: are now? 20 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we improve the depth and I think 21 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: you know, as you turn the roster, especially at bottom third, uh, 22 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: you can do a better job in year one, year two, 23 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: you know you're not gonna have that much attrition where 24 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna need those heavier numbers. 25 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: How much have you mean you've been here more than 26 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: a year now, Yeah, how much is your role in 27 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: general growing? And have you done and the other parts 28 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: of it comes to being a general manager. 29 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: It's just in general manager, you know, like getting involved 30 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: in contract negotiations. 31 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Being involved in a little more probably in free agency 32 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 2: and that stuff. 33 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, joing to say it's a kitchen sink. Actually havn't changed. 34 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: It has been the same throughout. Where I've been fortunate 35 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: with my relationship with Joe is everything from us doing 36 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: the renovation on the draft room and free agency and 37 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: trade talks and contract all those things falling to the umbrella. 38 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: You know, I'd like to steal Joe's words where he says, hey, 39 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: somehow you know I'm not available one day. You know, 40 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: the ship should be most you know, growing smooth, and 41 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: the boat all goes in the same way, and the 42 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: gender doesn't change. And that's why, you know, I'm so 43 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: glad to be that we're tight at the hill. 44 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: From your standpoint, how important was it to just be 45 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: faster as a team and especially as an offense. 46 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: Watching those receivers, it seems a stark difference. 47 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's part of the collaboration process. 48 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: You know, we get with the coaches in the postseason, 49 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: we say, hey, how do we you know, get better? 50 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: You know what areas do we need to improve on? 51 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm not satisfied and how season ended and being explosive 52 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: was wonderful. You see him from the tight end position 53 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: to the wide receiver position. If you don't have to 54 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: accumulate long drives when you can have you know, the 55 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: quick strikeability. 56 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: How Ryan Cowden fit in? Oh great? 57 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: I with Ryan, I would like to say the evaluators 58 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: evaluate the evaluators and out on the road. You know, 59 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: Ryan and I we've crossed over for years, and I 60 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: think he's another valuable piece that we're able to add. 61 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: You know, I say, no different than the roster front offices. 62 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: You want to acquire, develop and retain. You know, you 63 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: want to bring the best talent in and develop the 64 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: talent that you do have and then hopefully you can 65 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: retain it. So with Ryan, you know, he's another piece 66 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: that he's going to be a vital part to our 67 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: decision making group, along with obviously U, Tim Dennis, Chris 68 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: rhs Eddie and in our area scouts, in our pro department. 69 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: Where do things stand to say to as you're expected 70 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: you're negotiating and helping to nineteen. 71 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, I appreciate you and asking the question. You know, 72 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: obviously you been going, you know, around with Saquon and 73 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: communication since probably at nine months now. But you know 74 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: that that's above my paid grade in terms of just divulging, 75 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: you know, some of the stuff that's we're gonna keep 76 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: in house. But we love Saquan. You know, he knows 77 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 3: how I feel about him, he knows how we feel 78 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: about him collectively. But we're gonna keep you know, the 79 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: family business inside. But you know, with with him, you know, 80 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: I'm excited whenever he's back, but I know he's taking 81 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: care of his business right now. 82 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: How hard is it to mend feelings that can get 83 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: hurt in this process, especially if there's not a new, 84 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: bigger contract at the end of it. Yeah. 85 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: I think when you're dealing with someone who is extremely 86 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: mature like Saquon, you can separate the personal and the professional. 87 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: And I think that's when you have you know, honest 88 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: and open conversations, you take the feelings out of it. 89 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: You're able to establish common ground. Doesn't mean you're gonna agree. 90 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: But that's why I do. I appreciate I appreciate about him. 91 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: He can he can listen and he can and he 92 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: can digest information we're giving him and he tells his 93 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: feelings as well. 94 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: What is it like to have a day where Bill 95 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Parcells and Michael Strahan are watching this camp? 96 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that has an effect on players, 97 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: the morale just anything like that. 98 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it speaks to the culture that we're 99 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: building cans. You know, guys want to be around, they 100 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: want to come back. It's it's it's something that you 101 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: want to be a part of. When you know, uh, 102 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: something good is brewing. Uh, you want to see you know, 103 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: what does it feel like on the day to day basis? 104 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Is it just uh something that's temper or is something 105 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: that has you know, long standing staying power. And I 106 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: just think you look at the guys that we've edited 107 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: in the off season, uh via free agency and trade 108 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: with uh Darren Waller, I think we've edited guys that 109 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: are about our factor, you know, smart top in dependent. 110 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: But we're not just saying it's not just a tag 111 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: or slogan. You see it and uh, the day to day, 112 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: you know, since you guys have been out here, you can. 113 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: See it, right, negotiations are you sit now with the 114 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: agents and Free Agency or somebody else? 115 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Where it's it's it's a collective effort. You know. 116 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: That's one thing that I appreciated from Joe. It's it's 117 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: all hands on approach and it's a it's a solution 118 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: based you know. Know, Uh, there is a you know, 119 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: a pecan order on how we like to get things done. 120 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: But that's the that's the beauty of being collaborative. 121 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: You were with the Eagles obviously longer than you've been here. 122 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 6: What did you take from their run and how they 123 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 6: built it? You know, you know those guys very well. 124 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 6: And the fact that you know there's a hump to 125 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 6: be gotten over you guys. You know, we're just not 126 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 6: gonna done that, you know, you know you know a 127 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 6: lot about that organization. 128 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're building, you know, we're building. We're not 129 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: not satisfied, but we're building. And I think part of 130 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: that is continue to be collaborative, you know, and exhausting 131 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: all our resources, you know, especially when it comes down 132 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: to data. You know, not just having data that's a 133 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: that's available, but having actionable data, you know, using it 134 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: to make decisions. So I think, uh, learning how to 135 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: use all our resources, having proper checks and balances, that's something, 136 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: you know, taking over from Philly, you know, obviously, and 137 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: Joe's had a certain uh degree of that from his 138 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: time in in Buffalo coming over and we're gonna you know, 139 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: use Ryan's uh experience in Tennessee as an example as well. 140 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 3: And I think that's what I love about what Joe's 141 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: done is uh employed a diversity of thought. I think 142 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: when you have diversity of thought, that's when you're able 143 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: to make your best decisions. 144 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Something about collaborative uh a lot. 145 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: How far is it from your perspective to, let's say, 146 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: balance between what the coach may want for his system 147 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: to what. 148 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: You may feel like, Okay, I like this type, but 149 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: he wants this type. 150 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: How much of that inner fight happens with within you 151 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: and and the votes that. 152 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: What's nice is we uh we watch a lot of 153 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: tape together, you know, you go through the draft process. 154 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: You know the things that are in universally agree on. 155 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, there there's a respect, which is the baseline 156 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: of all our communication. UH. When respect is the foundation 157 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: and you know what the principles are of our offense, 158 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: of our defense. You know, we watch it together and say, hey, 159 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: what are the the the points of disagreement and how 160 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: do we find a compromise. And then it's you know, 161 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: based on us on the personnel department to find the 162 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: proper value of where you take this player. Uh, whether 163 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: it's you know, giving up resources via trade or your 164 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: currency in the draft, et cetera. 165 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: What's your fair? What's fair to expect from this rookie class? 166 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: And I I and in particular, can you can cornerbacks? 167 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: And Deontaevius just n number one peck cornerbacks? 168 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 169 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: In in this day and age become good and faster 170 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: because of the way the college game is. 171 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Change tr questions. 172 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: But no, no, no problem, no problem. I don't I 173 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: don't want to put a benchmark or a label on 174 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: what the you know, the the degree of success is 175 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: gonna be for this class. But we're excited for him. 176 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: You know, if you look at or what we've brought in, 177 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: you guys have been around a good amount. It's a 178 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: mature group. You know, we they s they fit our smart, tough, 179 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: dependable mantra. These are guys that if you look all 180 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: across the board, from whether it's first round pick, you know, 181 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: down to undrafted free agent to late round picks. They're explosives, 182 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: they're fast, they're physical, they have traits, you know, banking 183 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: on the traits that play on Sunday and it saw us, 184 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: you know, our job collaborating with the coaching stef to 185 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: get them up to speed. From a technique standpoint. 186 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: We get in front receipt to the exceptions for Daniel 187 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: Jones and product your lawrence, What did you learn in 188 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: that process and what surprised you about that? 189 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think the biggest thing learning is it 190 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 3: is being patient, you know, being patient, being open to listen, 191 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: not being stubborn, and understanding what the market is, you know, 192 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: the market surplus scarcity now it dictates a lot of 193 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: things on how you make decisions and uh. And it's 194 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: also being able to agree to disagree at times to 195 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: be able to get back to the table. So that's 196 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: that's the really the biggest thing in learning is knowing 197 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: that things will just happen overnight. 198 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: I get kind of similar to that. In the first 199 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: year on the job. What have you learned about yourself 200 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: and how it's changed your approach. 201 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: To this position. 202 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned, Uh, time doesn't belong to me. I say, 203 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: time belongs to the to the staff. And why I 204 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: say that is, you know, I kind of look at 205 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: everything through the lens of people, process and culture. You know, 206 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: people on the day to day. I figure out, how 207 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: do how can we maximize everyone who's on this roster? 208 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: You know, process and you know, how do we improve 209 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: get better, whether it's employing new ideas in culture, you know, 210 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: how do we put four things that are gonna be 211 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: what we want to be about, whether it's in the building, 212 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: whether it's on the field, within in the community, those 213 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: three layers. When I say time don't belong to myself, 214 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: after eight am, you don't know what's gonna happen, right, 215 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: So it's really pre eight am is what you have 216 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: to yourself, whether you want to watch film, where there 217 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: certain things on your agenda, you know, call it post 218 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: eight am, post seven pm. That's where you get back 219 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: to doing things for yourself. And I think no day 220 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: is the same where in between that eight to eight window, 221 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: you gotta be ready for curveballs and you gotta. 222 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: Adjust what you been before eight am. 223 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: Given that, Yeah, I try to say, I try to 224 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: beat Joe into the gym in the morning, but he's 225 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: usually the full sweat by the time I get there. 226 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: So it's usually workout in the morning, and it's nice. 227 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: We got a good contingent inside there where I don't 228 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: think it's by mistake that plays into how close we are, 229 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, between myself, Joe, Dennis Hickey, Tim McDonald. You know, 230 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: we're all in there early, and I try to tell 231 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: the players that Joe don't say is that, you know, 232 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: I can't expect you google work if I'm not gonna 233 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: build myself. So I think it's one of those things 234 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: that allows us to have a kind of an unplanned 235 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: connection point because the players are in there early. You know, 236 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: you see Daniel Jones, Potty guys that are you know, 237 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: Tyro Taylor, guys that are opening the gym. So makes 238 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: it's a nice, you know, little connection point, also a 239 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: bonding moment for us. 240 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: Did you guys do anything in the off season to 241 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: combat the thing? 242 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, we came in last year, we made the playoffs. 243 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: This year is not guaranteed. 244 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we looked at what our pain points were, 245 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: you know, we we wanted to get better against the run. 246 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: And you see what we did in terms of adding 247 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: Nacho and Ashan and getting Bobby owned free agency, adding 248 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: Bob McCain as as a vet in the secondary. You 249 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: know those things is not being satisfied. It's being reflective, 250 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: looking in the mirror, being honest with each other, with 251 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: each each other and saying, hey, how do we give 252 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: the coaches the best opportunity to put the best product 253 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: in the field. 254 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: I know you had had a chance during the season, 255 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: during the college season, to be a lot to be 256 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: on the ground. 257 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: A little bit, you know, to do some scouting. 258 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: I heard you were down in Maryland at one point 259 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,119 Speaker 4: when when Banks popped off one game, he really jumped. 260 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Off the film. 261 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: What was your call like or what was your report 262 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: back to Joe that day that. 263 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: You kind of took a note of this day out there? 264 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: I mean, are I probably saying a vacuum. I just 265 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: loved our process with Dean too. It's not just me. 266 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: Don't don't just give me credit for that. I like 267 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: to say our area scout. I mean, if you go 268 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: back to September, Deontay wasn't somebody that was on the radar. 269 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: You know, we had an area scout who watched him 270 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: early liked him. Actually, Joe got a chance to go 271 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: see him live in person. You know, Tim Dennis, they 272 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: both watched him. You know. Then I go live and 273 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: go see him play against Ohio State. You know, I 274 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: see him get beat by Marvin Harrison Junior the first 275 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: play of the game, and then line right back and 276 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: play relentless with effort the rest of the game. And 277 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: then he's then he hands a game and blocks a kick. 278 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: I just think his competitiveness is something that you covet 279 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 3: in our system, especially playing a lot of man and 280 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: then you you fast forward. You know, we have a 281 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: touch point with him at at the combine, Dave's hits 282 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: it off with him, and then we go down the 283 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: road down to Pro day. Myself and Jesse Armstead have 284 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: dinner with him. Pre pro day, Jerome spends time with him, 285 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: bring him up in a thirty visit. That's the collaborative approach, 286 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: you know. Our sports SCIGNS gets to spend time with 287 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: him analytics department. Then he checks out and looks great 288 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: in all our models. You know, player development spends time 289 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: with him and he's in the building. So to me 290 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: that that's what you want, you know, the full collaborative 291 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: approach from all the apartments like bmore, you. 292 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: Guys had to have a vision when you traded for Waller, right, yeah, 293 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: has he ex without asking the complete softball because is 294 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,479 Speaker 2: from like observations, you know, watching the practices. 295 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: Has he exceeded in terms of when you look at 296 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: your team and on the practice field, he's he literally 297 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: and figured if. 298 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: He stands out on a very regular basis, right right, 299 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: So what did you really get when you traded for him? 300 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Do you guys think? 301 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we we did our due diilgions because 302 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: we did our research. We knew from the friends red zone, 303 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: red zone being a mismatch piece. He's someone that called 304 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: he the problem creator. You know, you look at what 305 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: he can do in terms of opening up the field 306 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: for the rest of our guys, whether it's you know, 307 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: adding Paris Campbell adding you know, adding call it Slayton. 308 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: In terms of bringing him back, what he can do 309 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: from separating, I call it you get to stretch of 310 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: off defense, whether it's vertically and laterally, and he asked 311 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: to them and he's gonna open up the field. And 312 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, when we get our Bondell back and add 313 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 3: those pieces in the slotche back. I think it's one 314 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: of those things where he the force multiplier, right. He 315 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: just doesn't make himself our offense better, but he makes 316 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: other players better and he's gonna, you know, help set 317 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: us up that way. 318 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 5: Regarding Sequon, you said that in that kind of situation, 319 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 5: normally you can separate the personal from the business side 320 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 5: or two different things. But what happens if the player 321 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 5: feels like it's personal or feels like trust is broken 322 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 5: from a front office standpoint, how do you repair that 323 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 5: or get back to the business side. 324 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where you 325 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: look at the foundation or your relationship. You know, our 326 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: foundation of our relationship with Saquon is is one of 327 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: not just trust, but honesty. You know, it's no different 328 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: than being in a family. Family is gonna, you know, 329 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: disagree at some point, and but one thing is, you 330 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: know what at the crux of your relationship, it's the 331 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: fact that you know there's love there. And I think 332 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: you know, Saquon knows how we feel about him, and 333 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: I think whether it's fed and openly or behind closed doors. 334 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: You know, we've had multiple conversations with him where there's 335 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: things we agree on, things that we disagree on, but 336 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you know, he knows 337 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: how we feel about it, you know, and it's nothing 338 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: that's that's something that's not gonna change. 339 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: You talked to him since Sunday. 340 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: People, No, No, I haven't. But at the same time, 341 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: like I said, we're gonna keep those conversations closer to this, 342 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: Like I said, I want to handle that in house, 343 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: and the same thing with Joe and Davis. But you know, 344 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: he's he knows how we feel about it. That's that's 345 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: that's not changing market. 346 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: That position is going to help someone depressed, right, every 347 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: resistance going up. 348 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't wholeheardly agree with that, that every position is 349 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: going on. I mean, you look at the look at 350 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: what's happened in the safety market. 351 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 5: You know. 352 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: You see guys that designed big contracts in the last around, 353 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: the deals with safety market get you know released. I 354 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: think you look at some of the linebackers. I thought 355 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: they were gonna get more money. It wasn't there and 356 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: they had to wait it out. I just think precedent 357 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: sets the market, you know, and that's that's something that 358 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: we don't control it. We don't you know, we what 359 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: we do is we try to forecast and react. So 360 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: that's what we've done. And the market is the market. 361 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: But I think precedent dictates where. 362 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: It sits right. Scalletons like recruit and you gotta kind 363 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: of do it every day. 364 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: And it was good to see some of the guys 365 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: you brought in last year on the back end. 366 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: Go to the USFL, go to the XFL and have success. 367 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: How often official is it for you guys to see 368 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: some of those guys you brought into have as success 369 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: and how important are those ultimate things to kind of 370 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: help you guys. 371 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Do uh a better job of acquiring pro raty talent. 372 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you look at those other leagues, 373 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: that provides the opportunity for reps. In constructive reps, you 374 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: know guys that you see flash at times in practice, 375 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: you don't see them in call it high volatile situations 376 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: where they have to adjust a sudden change, And I 377 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: think you're getting a bigger picture and sample size of 378 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: them in these alternative leagues. It's better for the league 379 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: in general. And I think the fact that we've had 380 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: guys that have placed in and have done well, it 381 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: shows that we're identifying the right traits, and as they develop, 382 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, there's all this opportunity to circle back on 'em. 383 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Maybe they're a deficiencies that becomes uh, a strength, or 384 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: an area that you know is now functional on a 385 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: fifty three man roster or a ninety man or ninety 386 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: man roster. That's you know, why are those alternative leaves? 387 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: You know they have value. You know it may not 388 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: be a guy that's gonna be a frontline starter, but 389 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: maybe an eventual death guy. So I think those are 390 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: things that we're always going to unturn every stone and 391 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: see if there's any value for us in any of 392 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: those supplemental leads.