1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. It 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: is Martin Luther King Day, a day to reflect on 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: King's legacy and all that he taught us. It is 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: also on our show a Day for a first, we 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: are going to rescind last week's Stork of the Week, 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: which went unanimously to the Los Angeles Angels, and we 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: are going to rescind it because the Angels have agreed 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: to pay the insurance and the salary in twenty twenty 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: six of that prospect Ral Foster who was injured in 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: a car accident. You see the story by Sam Blum 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: last week, and this is from the other day. The 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Angels will continue to ensure the prospects severely injured in 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: a car crash. His mother says, this story is the 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: follow up to Sam's original story. I don't know that 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Sam's story well, I don't know that it didn't have 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: an impact on this. Sorry for the double negative. It 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: seems to me that maybe the Angels were going to 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: do this all along. That's a possibility. And it seems 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: to me also that once published his story, his original 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: story and then it went public, that perhaps the Angels 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: were shamed into it. I don't know either way. The 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Angels are doing the right thing. We are rescinding for 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: the first time in Fair Territory history, a Dork of 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: the Week award. Angels, good job by doing this for real, Foster. 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: All right, now, let's get to the matters at hand, 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and we have quite a bit at hand today. The 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: Mets Hashan Kim, the Hall of Fame ballot that I 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: published today, a lot to get to. Let's start with 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: the Mets and we'll get into Cody Bellinger in this 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: conversation as well. The Mets have had an off season 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: that I would describe as curious. Others might describe as 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: borderline incoherent. And you might say, Ken, why do you 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: say that, Why are you getting on the Mets again? Well, 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: David Stern's president Baseball Operations, said at the start of 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: the offseason, and it's said consistently since that defense was 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: going to be a priority for the Mets, and the 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Neimo for Simeon trade Brandon Nimo for Marcus Simeon. Certainly 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: that Simeon a Gold Glove winner last year. Yes, his defense, 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, his offense has declined in the last two years, 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: but defensively he remains elite, and yet there moves since 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: these are the ones that to me have been curious. Now, 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: we started with the Mets trying to get Kyle Tucker 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: for fifty five million a year, which would have given 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: them two corner outfielders making over fifty million a year, 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: neither of whom at this point in their career is 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: average defensively. Both might get back to that, but they're 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: not that right now. Mets didn't get Tucker, Dodgers did. 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: The pivot was to Bo Baschett. Now, Bobachett is one 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: of the best hitters, or perhaps even the best hitter 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: available in free agency this year. He's a guy who 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: hits all kinds of pitching in all ways. He's a 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: really outstanding hitter. He has never played third base, and 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: that's where the Mets intend to play him now. Bo 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: is a shortstop for his entire career. He played second 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: base in the World Series. I'm sure he can play 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: third and hope Blanco, who has never played first base, 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: will be at times the first baseman, probably the bulk 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: of the time. He has never played first base in 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the majors. Now I'm expecting these guys will adapt Polanco 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: practice first base last year with the Mariners before games. Okay, 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: it's just not exactly the way you would expect it 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: to go. What a team says, we're stressing defense, and 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: then they're signing players to play out of position. And 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: the Baschet deal three years, one hundred and twenty six 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: million is curious in another way as well. First year 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: salary forty two million, and then he has a five 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: million dollar bonus if he opts out, so he may 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: be getting forty seven million for one year with the Mets. 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: And keep in mind that forty seven million the bulk 70 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: of it, not all of it. The bulk of it 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: is subject to a one hundred and ten percent luxury 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a tack. So it's possible the Mets effectively will be 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: paying Bobashett one hundred million or so for one year. 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: That is an interest choice. It's not my money, Steve 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Cohen's money, and we'll see what else he does. And 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: that's what we need to get to now, what the 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Mets need to get to now. So they still need 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: one more bat and Will Sammon of The Athletic had 79 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: a notes calum about the Mets yesterday, explaining where they 80 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: are right now, and he mentioned their need for a 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: versatile outfielder. Cody Bellinger is that guy. Cody Bellinger, in 82 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: my mind, probably should have been the mets first choice 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: given what they've said about defense. But at the same time, 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: the one thing the Mets have not addressed yet to 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: a meaningful extent is their starting pitching. That was the 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: downfall of the team last year. Now, listen, it's only 87 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: January nineteenth, and this off season is not over by 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. I fully expect the Mets 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: are going to get pitching starting pitching at some point. 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: They've addressed their bullfen with Devin Williams and Luke Weaver, 91 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: but they still need a starter, and they still need 92 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: an outfielder, and it's going to be really interesting to 93 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: see how they proceed. Cody Bellinger, one of the outfielders 94 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: are considering, not attached to draft pick compensation, but he's 95 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: sitting on an offer from the Yankees five years, one 96 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five to one hundred and sixty million 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: with two opt outs, according to the Athletics Brandon Cuddy, 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: and he hasn't taken that deal. Now, maybe he hasn't 99 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: taken that deal because he's waiting to see what the 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Mets and Blue Jays do and whether they come back 101 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: to him with something better, or maybe he just ends 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: up back with the Yankees. That would seem to be 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: the logical thing. He is the Yankees' number one priority. 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: But we'll see how that all plays out, and then 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: we'll see what the Mets do with a starting pitcher, 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: because frankly, they're in the mix for Freddie Peralta in 107 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: a trade, and I'm sure they're in the mix for 108 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: other pitchers in a trade as well. But if they 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: sign a from ber Valdez or a Zach Gallon, two 110 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: free agents, the two best free agents who are still 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: out there from a starting pitching standpoint, they're losing two 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: more draft picks. Now. I don't see that as a 113 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: big deal for a team like the Mets. Their farm 114 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: system is in a really good place right now. If 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: they blow out their draft and lose their third and 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: sixth picks as well as their second and fifth, so 117 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: you go second, third, fifth, sixth, all gone, I don't 118 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: see that being too cumbersome for the Mets. They can 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: handle that, but it's a choice that they're going to 120 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: need to consider as they go forward. Here. So one 121 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: other thing I want to get to with the Mets 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: their offense. And certainly the question was asked and has 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: been asked, and was asked of me on foul Territory 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the other day. Is their offense better than it was 125 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: last year? I wasn't really anticipating the question, and my 126 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: answer was, it seems to me the Mets are on 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: equal footing or perhaps even better than last year. But 128 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: I want to show you the Steamer projections. Now, these 129 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: are advanced analytical looks at the Mets players, the ones 130 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: that they've acquired, the ones who have departed, and it 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: shows that the ones who have departed if you look 132 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: at their combined WRC plus weighted runs created plus, it's 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: an advanced metric that shows you basically a complete offensive 134 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: picture of a player. These are projections. Again, these are 135 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: merely projections, and projections do not always come true. But 136 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: you see where if you add up and I don't 137 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: know if this is the proper way to do it analytically, 138 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: but if you add up the three guys who left 139 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and the three guys who are coming, the three guys 140 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: who left, their projections are slightly higher overall. We'll see 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: how it plays out. I kind of think that the 142 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: newcomers bashd in particular, are going to be really good. 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about Simon because he's been in 144 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: a two year decline, but it's fairly close offensively. One 145 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: more bat would put it over the top, I would 146 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: think for their offensive balance compared to last year. So 147 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: that's the Mets, but they weren't the only NLS team 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: with big news in recent days. Just yesterday, the Braves 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: announced that Hashan Kim, who they had signed earlier this 150 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: offseason one year, twenty million dollars, he suffered an injury 151 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: to his face and is going to be out four 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: to five months now. Hashan Kim, the whole idea was 153 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: he was going to stabilize short stuff for them, enable 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: them to use Mauricio Duban in more of a utility role. 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: That is not going to happen, at least not right away. 156 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: The expectation among Braves people is that Hashan Kim is 157 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: going to be out to at least or probably about 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I should say about mid May. It could be a 159 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: little bit longer than that. These things you never quite know, 160 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: but if they get him back in mid May, they'll 161 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: go with Dubon for six weeks or so, and they'll 162 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: probably find some external option to just kind of give 163 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: them a backup if Dubon needs a day off here 164 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: or there. They're okay. They're not in a horrible spot 165 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: because they acquired Dubab before signing Kim. But would you 166 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: say this is ideal? I would not say this is ideal. 167 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: The Braves, though, have had, in my opinion, a very 168 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: good offseason. They've supplemented their bullpen with Robert Suarez and others. 169 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: They have signed Kim, a player who should be good 170 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: for them if he gets on the field at some point, 171 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: and they've done some good things, but they still have 172 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: one more thing to do, and that is get a 173 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: starting pitcher. And we'll see where the Braves end up 174 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: on that. They've been in on the Freddy Peralta sweepstakes, 175 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: though I don't know that they've been into the same 176 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: degree as some other clubs. They're a team that should 177 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: bounce back this season. I fully expect that they're going 178 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: to be better. Mike Yastremsky is another addition that they've made. 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: They've made a number of additions that are kind of 180 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: thirty something players, but they still look like they're going 181 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: to be pretty formidable once hash on Kim gets on 182 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: the field. All right, with that, we end up the lead. 183 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: We're going to be right back with the inside dish. 184 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: Nobody likes a bloated cell phone bill. 185 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: It can consume you, it can take over, it can 186 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: be very annoying. 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Now, my ballot this 214 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: year is stuffed. Frankly, it has ten names on it, 215 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: which surprised me a little bit. I didn't know at 216 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: the start of the process that I would get to ten. 217 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: That's the maximum number that voting members of the Baseball 218 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Writers Association of America are allowed to vote for. But 219 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I've got ten online, and I've got six first timers. 220 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: Here are the names, Carlos Beltron, Andrew Jones, Jimmy Rollins, 221 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Chase Utley, Felix Hernandez, Andy Pettit, Mark Burley, Cole Hamils, 222 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: David Wright, and Dustin Pedroia, Beltron Jones, Rollins, and Utley. 223 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Those are my holdovers. The others are all first time 224 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: selections for me. Basically, my ballot had two themes, and 225 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: I explained this in the column at length. The first 226 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: theme was this, and this was kind of the main one. 227 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: No longer am I going to penalize players for things 228 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: that they did not accomplish through little or no fault 229 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: of their own. So what are we talking about? Guys 230 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: whose careers ended prematurely due to injuries Padroia and right, 231 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: a guy who might have pitched longer at a higher 232 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: level if he wasn't abused by his team early in 233 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: his career, and that's Felix Hernandez. And then a guy 234 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: who's a little bit different than those, who is quite 235 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: similar to another of my first time choices, Andy Pettitt, 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: but doesn't have the same postseason resume because he didn't 237 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: play on teams that were as good as Andy Pettit's 238 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: that's Mark Burley. So I know, when you start putting 239 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: people on your bout who accomplished a lot, but could 240 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: have accomplished more. If you think about it, that's a 241 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: slippery slope. It opens up a lot of things. It 242 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: opens up a lot of questions, It raises certain doubts 243 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe that people might have, and of course it ultimately 244 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: has people saying, well, if you're going to elect that 245 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: guy or name that guy in your ballot, what about 246 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: this guy? What about that guy? This is the challenge 247 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame voters face because when you select one, 248 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: then you're looking at another, and that's how it rolls. 249 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: And that's why I've always tried to keep the bar high. 250 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: But some would argue that I'm not keeping the bar 251 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: as high as I should be with this particular bout. 252 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: They will argue that this is the Hall of the 253 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: very good with some of my selections. I get it. 254 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: But times are changing, our standards should be changing with 255 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: those times. And there is more of an emphasis now 256 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: because careers are shorter pictures, careers in particular on peak 257 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: performance a peak of seven years perhaps and not ten. 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: My initial prerequisite when I began as a Hall of 259 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: Fame voter, I think that was in the late nineties, 260 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: was ten year dominance that's what I want, and that's 261 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: what I still look at the most. But there are 262 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: players who don't quite get to that, whose peaks are shorter, 263 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: and yet still have amazing careers. And that is why 264 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: I picked some of the players that I did. And 265 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: I say in the column, I think I've blown it 266 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: in the past with guys like Manningly and Murphy Don 267 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Mattingly Dale Murphy great careers, abrupt endings perhaps to their 268 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: careers or sharp declines. In the case of Murphy Manningly, 269 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: a guy who is back just betrayed him and his 270 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: career ended prematurely. So I feel we blew it then, 271 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: and I don't want to blow it anymore. And that 272 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: was one theme. And the other theme here is that 273 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: we don't elect enough Hall of Famers. If you look 274 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: at the induction rates year by year, Travis Sauchek has 275 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: written about this, they keep going down, and the percentage 276 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: of Hall of Famers to the percentage of players is 277 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: reducing each decade. That's, in some lines, I'm sure a 278 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: good trend, but I'm not sure it's a fair trend. 279 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: We're not honoring enough players pictures in particular, we've elected 280 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: the BBWAA has only three starting pitchers since twenty fifteen, 281 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: Roy Halliday, Mike Messina, and last year, of course C. C. Sabathia. 282 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: Three pitchers in a decade. Three starting pitchers in a decade. 283 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: That probably isn't enough. Now coming up in due time, Verlander, 284 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: Scherzer Kershaw, they will be all Hall of famers, of course, 285 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: and they're slam dunk first ballot Hall of Famers. Zach 286 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Grenke probably will be a Hall of Famer two. But 287 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: none of those pictures is eligible into twenty twenty nine. 288 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Until twenty twenty nine, so what are we going to 289 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: do in the interim? Stop electing starting pitchers. I don't 290 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: know that that's a very wise thing to do. And 291 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you might say, well, you do this, but you're lowering standards. 292 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: I get that argument, I certainly get it. But last 293 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: year we elected C. C. Sabathia, and C. C. Sabathia, 294 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: in my mind, was certainly a Hall of Famer. He 295 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: received eighty six percent of the vote on the first ballot, 296 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: and the pettit when you look at some of their 297 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: statistical categories, it's almost identical to Sabathia. Sabathia was more 298 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: dominant more accomplished. No one would dispute that. I don't believe. 299 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: But if CEC got eighty six percent of the vote 300 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: on the first ballot, it forced me to reconsider what 301 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I thought of Pettit or just how Pettit fits into 302 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: this whole equation. And ultimately I voted for Pettit this 303 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: year when I did not last year or even before that. 304 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: He's been on the ballot now seven times. This is 305 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: his eighth, I believe. So once I elected Pettit, or 306 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: voted for Pettit, I should say he's not elected yet. 307 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, let's look beyond that. Let's look at 308 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: the other names on the ballot. Guy who might be 309 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: similar to Pettit, Mark Burley quite similar. These two guys 310 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: are perhaps two of the last pitchers who are going 311 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: to reach three thousand innings. There are a couple of 312 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: actives that will do that. Verlanders there sure's or will 313 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: get there, and their cases for the Hall are based 314 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: largely on longevity and of course, excellence during their course 315 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: of the careers. Burley was quite similar to Pettitt. You 316 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: can look at the numbers. Go check them out on 317 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: Baseball Reference dot com. Check them out on fangrafs. Wherever 318 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: you look at your statistics, they're similar. The difference largely 319 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: is Pettitt had two hundred and seventy innings in the postseason, 320 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: a record where Burley had only thirty. Didn't get as 321 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: much opportunity in October. Now, you can't hold Pettitt's success 322 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: against him in the postseason. He helped the Yankees get there. 323 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: He pitched well for them in many cases in the postseason. 324 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Twelve starts in clinchers, the Yankees won eight of them. 325 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: The Astros two were part of that equation with him. So, yes, 326 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: you cannot hold that against him. It's part of his story, 327 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: it's part of his career. But I don't know that 328 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: you can hold it against Burley that he wasn't quite 329 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: that Now. The two other pitchers on my ballot Felix Hernandez. 330 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: He's a classic example of what we might see in 331 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: the future, a guy with a shorter peak who shone 332 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: brightly for not the longest period of time, but definitely 333 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: was a huge star. You look at his cy young finishes. 334 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: All he accomplished over a nine year period between the 335 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: ages of twenty one and twenty nine. He was one 336 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: of the best pictures in the sport. Those pictures to me, 337 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: those players, to me, are the people we should be honoring. 338 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: So Felix Hernandez that was a fairly easy call for me. 339 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Now that I'm adjusting and recalibrating on the position player side, 340 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: next year we're going to have Buster Posey. Buster Posey 341 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: only fifteen hundred career hits. Well, Buster Posey is a 342 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: guy that's going to be most likely a Hall of Famer, 343 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: and that's why guys like Utley and Wright and Pedroia 344 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: to me are more valid now. So Felix fits into 345 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: that category. Shorter peak, but brilliant, great career. Finally, Cole 346 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Hamil's now here's the one guy I didn't expect to 347 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: be voting for. I didn't think of him as when 348 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: he was active as a Hall of Fame player, didn't 349 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: think of him as Hall of Fame material. But part 350 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: of this process is you go back and look and 351 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: sometimes what we see and what we believe is not 352 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: always a fair measure of a player's career. That's why 353 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: we go look at the numbers, go back and talk 354 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: to people and think about this again. Now, Cole Hamils 355 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: is a guy that I expect will be kind of 356 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: a not popular choice in the balloting this year. He'll 357 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: do okay, he'll get over five percent, the minimum required 358 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: to stay on the ballot. But a number of people 359 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: I spoke with said, no, he's not. But you look 360 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: at his ERA plus. That's his era when adjusted for 361 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: park and league factors, better than Pettitt, better than Burley, 362 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: It's right up there with a lot of great pictures 363 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame pictures. In fact, if he got into 364 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, his Era plus would rank tenth 365 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: among all left handers, ahead of Glavin, ahead of Sabbathia, 366 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: head of Steve Carlton. I was surprised to learn all this. 367 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: He also had a pretty stellar Postsea in resume. Great 368 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, not so great in two 369 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, but overall an amazing, impressive career. So 370 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: that's where I am with all this. And I'll say this, 371 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: as I said in the column, I'm not sure I'm right. 372 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm never sure i'm right. Everybody has their own view 373 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: of what a Hall of Famer is, Fans, writers, people 374 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: in the industry. That's the beauty of the process that 375 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: we can agree to disagree that will debate this and 376 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: just talk about it and talk about it and talk 377 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: about it some more. Now, when he mentioned that I 378 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: should mention as well that I have a line for 379 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: where I draw, let me put this better. I have 380 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: a line with the steroids or candidates. I will not 381 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: vote for candidates who tested positive or were confirmed to 382 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: have used after rules were put in place. That's why 383 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't vote for a rod and Manny. A lot 384 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: of people will disagree with that as well. But again, 385 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: this is a subjective thing. This is a personal thing, 386 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: and most voters put a ton of care and thought 387 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: into this. If you disagree with my choices, I get it. 388 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: Certainly entitled to your opinion, and I certainly respect that opinion. 389 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: I don't pretend. No writer who is voting should pretend 390 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: that their opinion is the end all be all. But 391 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: in my view, with this, there aren't right or wrong answers. 392 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: They're really are only your own answers. All right, with that, 393 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: you complete the inside dish. We'll be back with grilling 394 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: can right after this. 395 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: Bet I'm jam account holders today. How about an any 396 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: sport parlay boost token? You can score a bigger payout 397 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: if your wager with that token hits tokens can be 398 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: used on parlays and on same game parlays. Gambling problem 399 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: or concerned, there's help called one eight hundred gambler. 400 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: Time now for grilling. Can the part of the show 401 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: where I answer your questions? Let's go rapid fire on 402 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: this Monday. First question from Tyler Max Smith. Does Gallon 403 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: have any kind of market? Could we see a one 404 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: or two year deal with multiple team options. I wrote 405 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: about Zach Gallen the other day, and it seems to 406 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: me that because he received a qualifying offer, it's hurting 407 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: him and he's not coming off his best season. And 408 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: it's certainly possible that he will do with other Scott 409 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Boris clients have done in recent years and take a 410 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: shorter deal with the idea of having a great year 411 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: no qualifying offer after this year or next year whenever 412 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: he opts out or ends that deal, and then going 413 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: back into the market with a better chance to be 414 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent and make more money. That seems 415 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: to me the path that he will get. I don't 416 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: know about multiple team options. I can see player options. 417 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: I can see a two year deal with an opt 418 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: out after one, a three year deal with an opt 419 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: out after two something along those lines. That to me 420 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: is perhaps where Zach Gallen is headed. Next question, this 421 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: one is from the Frosty Treks, say eight seven eight 422 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: for Pirates and Aohano Suarez, they're a connection. There is 423 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: there a connection there. I would expect, I certainly expect 424 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: and actually know that the Pirates are interested in Aohano 425 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: Suarez and the problem that they're going to face is 426 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: the problem they faced with other free agents as well. 427 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: If Aohanno Suarez has a choice to play for a 428 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: better team, a more competitive team in his opinion, he's 429 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: going to choose that team. I don't know that the 430 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Pirates in the minds of free agents are quite there yet. 431 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: They're better, They're fully capable with one more hitter in 432 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: my opinion, of competing for a wildcard spot because they're 433 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: pitching starting pitching is so good. But if Aohanno Suarez 434 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: can go to Boston, if he can return to one 435 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: of his former teams, Seattle or Arizona, that might be 436 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: his preference. All right. Next question, this one comes from 437 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Video Game Nation twenty six ken what has been your 438 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: favorite offseason move so far? Wow, that's a good one. Hmmm. 439 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: I have to think about this. I did like the 440 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: three team trade between Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, and Houston. I 441 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: thought that was kind of a cool move, and three 442 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: team trades are always interesting. That was the one where 443 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: the Pirates acquired Brandon Lowe and the Astros acquired Mike Burrows. 444 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: The Astros then and of course the Pirates too, send 445 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: some prospects to Tampa Bay. Not the hugest of names, 446 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: but it showed to me what the Pirates are going 447 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: to need to do, need to make trades because of 448 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: the free agents. Only Ryan O'Hearn has agreed to go there, 449 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: So I like that move the free agent market, I'd 450 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: have to think about it and take a deeper look 451 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: at which moves I like best. Foul Territory coming up 452 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern, We've got Jim Bowden and ken 453 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: Lee Jansen joining Aj Prizinski, Aeric Kratz and Alta Rizzo. 454 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Want to thank you everyone for watching, Thank you everyone 455 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: for listening. We will be back Thursday, twelve thirty Eastern 456 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: Live show with a lot of Rizzo