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Speaker 1: What's up? This way up with Angela Yee and Mano's

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Speaker 1: here with me.

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Speaker 2: And this is amazing because we had somebody that we

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Speaker 2: can truly say is a legend on the show.

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Speaker 1: Today is here and here you go. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen you since i've seen Charlemagne.

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Speaker 1: And I've been on the Moury Show before.

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Speaker 3: I know, You're amazing some of my cord on tape stuff.

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Speaker 1: Sure it did. Yeah, just to be clear, that's what

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Speaker 1: I was thinking.

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Speaker 4: Are you sure you weren't on the Paternity I don't

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Speaker 4: have any kids.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to come on my show?

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Speaker 5: I want to come on the new show.

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Speaker 3: There you go? Well have you had your friend Dave?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And my friend Connye Tongue was on.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know her personally, but I like

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Speaker 2: to look at her. It's like she's my friend. She

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Speaker 2: would be Yeah, I would really like her.

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Speaker 3: You would.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I love about this is a

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Speaker 2: whole different side of Marriy Povers that we get to

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Speaker 2: see because I feel like we've watched you as a

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Speaker 2: true journalist, and then we've watched you host The Maury Show,

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Speaker 2: which had an amazing run of thirty one years, one years,

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Speaker 6: So I was a kid.

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Speaker 3: You were a kid, right, and you were staying home

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Speaker 3: from school. You were faking being so I was.

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Speaker 5: I was saying I was going I was going out

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Speaker 5: to go to work, and then winning back inside.

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Speaker 2: I did the same thing. I used to do the

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Speaker 2: same thing. My parents would leave for worgo right back home.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that is so, get a bagel, and then this

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Speaker 6: is why you turned out like this.

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Speaker 1: Well we're in the same place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine? I always wanted to know how

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Speaker 3: these kids stayed at home to watch me, pretending they

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Speaker 6: The parents have to work, they couldn't you know.

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Speaker 2: I used to forge the note like you have to

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Speaker 2: bring up noted. I used to fork, and even when

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Speaker 1: So it was consistent. So I was very clever.

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Speaker 3: Could you write with her with her.

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Speaker 1: Hair writing look like? Because it was always me. That's

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Speaker 3: You had to sign the report cards to I signed it.

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Speaker 6: She's such a crook, such a crub.

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Speaker 1: But you know, and to be fair, things are so

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Speaker 2: You're right because if we didn't catch it when it

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Speaker 3: Back then, there was no DVR.

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Speaker 2: Right, no online to go see clips or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: And now look, I bet you are also raking in

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Speaker 2: the views online from those old episodes.

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Speaker 1: Still.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the show is all the repeats

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Speaker 3: are on regular TV two hundred stations across the country.

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Speaker 3: Plus I got millions of viewers on YouTube, millions of

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Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing Instagram?

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Speaker 6: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Some of those kids, they didn't know who the father

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Speaker 3: Well, I was on so long that I would have

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Speaker 3: And I brought them all back to the show to

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Speaker 5: Nobody was doing shows like this, like what made you

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Speaker 6: Right like what made you go in that area right there?

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Speaker 3: I was always looking for for stories that had drama

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw your episode with caramo Oh you

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Speaker 3: The best thing I ever said.

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Speaker 6: You never knew the results.

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Speaker 3: The first time we ever did the paternity show. The

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Speaker 6: It's like a cliffhanger every episode, and we just went

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Speaker 2: We just did that, flashing back to some old episodes

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Speaker 3: How about this? How about when you put the picture

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Speaker 5: Why did they always run though, God?

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Speaker 3: Because either the guy you know, went crazy because he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's always sure, and they feel humiliated or embarrassed

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Speaker 3: Not the father. I mean, you would have thought they were.

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Speaker 2: The guy always gets booed when he comes up there too,

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Speaker 1: We don't even know what the result is.

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Speaker 2: You know, earlier you said something that was interesting to

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Speaker 2: me when you said, twenty years later, bring him back

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Speaker 2: some of those kids. And that's why you do it,

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Speaker 2: because people would say, you know, there were some critics.

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Speaker 3: Oh thought I was exploiting people and things like that,

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Speaker 3: and I said, look, if I can get a father

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Speaker 3: there were the guys when I proved they were the father.

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Speaker 2: And even paying for them because I saw one woman

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Speaker 2: but now we can go to Maury and get it done.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, they're expensive. They're like one thousand

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Speaker 2: All right, So now back at it with on par

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Speaker 2: with Maury Povitch. That's on every Monday, the first episode

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Speaker 2: March thirty. First, you had your wife on Connie Tongue

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Speaker 2: and y'all made some headlines with that one.

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Speaker 3: Well, we had this thing where there were questions we

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Speaker 3: It says, when are you sexiest? And the only thing

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Speaker 3: what do you mean. I said, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's Sundays with Connie. I mean, that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Sundays with Connie and and she goes, well, I'm not

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Speaker 2: You know, it's different having viral moments about you instead

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Speaker 3: You know, believe it or not. You get more of

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Speaker 3: a reaction if it's about you. Because all those years

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Speaker 3: I did the show, it was about the other people.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't about me. People didn't know about my life,

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Speaker 6: Now people starting to be able to tap into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I can Now I can start. Now I

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Speaker 5: Question back in those days was a Jerry Springer competition.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, shows at the same time. We were friends

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Speaker 3: I mean first of all, way way way back when

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Speaker 3: and uh and so Jerry and I known each other forever.

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Speaker 3: He gave me the best compliment, and this is what

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Speaker 2: We were Yeah, some of those things could not fly today. Boy,

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, we used to have these beauty contests. I

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Speaker 3: mean we couldn't do it today. We wouldn't. The title

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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, man, as close as I am

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Speaker 6: So do you find it like nowadays? Is everything we

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Speaker 6: living in a different world? Right? Terrible?

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Speaker 3: Nobody can you can't do anything anything.

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Speaker 6: You can't even joke in that kind of fashion.

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Speaker 3: Now, tell me what do you think comics are going

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Speaker 3: to do? Now? Listen, I with Jimmy Kimmel off.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing coming everything. You would not believe what's coming

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I'm out the game. Right, more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I found a dress.

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Speaker 1: She found a dress like.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 6: It was unconventioned.

450
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Speaker 3: But I mean, I mean on a platonic side. I mean,

451
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Speaker 3: you wouldn't believe the people. When she was working in

452
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Speaker 3: La she used to go she used to go get

453
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Speaker 3: chicken and waffles with Magic all the time. Her and

454
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Speaker 3: Magic buddy buddies, I mean all the time. Yeah. Uh.

455
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Speaker 3: She was the first person to get an interview with

456
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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan when he had all that gambling issue with

457
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Speaker 3: way back, remember you quit the team. Now she's allegend's

458
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Speaker 3: She had the first interview with Magic about HIV. And

459
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Speaker 3: I mean she is a dog ass reporter, that's for sure.

460
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Speaker 2: I mean, didn't you say on nine to eleven you

461
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Speaker 2: saw her outside when you were trying to get home

462
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Speaker 2: and she was doing interviews.

463
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Speaker 1: I mean that's wild.

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Speaker 5: I was like one of the first power couples. Yeah there,

465
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Speaker 5: before it became a thing on social media.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

467
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Speaker 3: Well, it's really the power has been turned off for a.

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Speaker 2: Long Oh wow, Now let me ask you this, So

469
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Speaker 2: what made you say it's time for me to do

470
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Speaker 2: this podcast?

471
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Speaker 3: But too many people, I mean they started talking to

472
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Speaker 3: me about this thing, and they just it's like the

473
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: Pacino Line and the Godfather. You know, they dragged me

474
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Speaker 3: back in. They just dragged me back in. And then

475
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Speaker 3: I thought, well, nobody knows about this other life of

476
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Speaker 3: mine before the talk show. So I said, okay, I'll

477
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Speaker 3: try it. So we just finished our first season and uh,

478
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Speaker 3: we got a lot of big interviews on the podcast. Uh,

479
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: they're going to start very shortly, and uh uh we'll

480
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Speaker 3: get you guys on. We would love to get you guys.

481
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Speaker 3: And by the way, get you on talk about about

482
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Speaker 3: all I want to talk about. The wedding. Absolutely absolutely

483
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Speaker 3: got the venue picked.

484
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Speaker 1: Out, the deposit picked up. I'm going to tell you this.

485
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Speaker 2: I just got back from Vegas this morning, and I

486
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Speaker 2: knew that you. I was like, first, everybody's here for you.

487
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: Like Mano normally would would have left. He said, I'm

488
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Speaker 2: staying because I got to meet more.

489
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Speaker 1: Me is here.

490
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Speaker 2: He came in here today. Ess, so he get a

491
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Speaker 2: picture with you, and that's how important it is.

492
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Speaker 3: So we I'm impressed.

493
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Speaker 1: We're impressed because I thought I was because I never

494
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Speaker 1: want you to forget like.

495
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Speaker 3: I thought I was an antique.

496
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Speaker 1: No, I know you're about to be a great grandfather.

497
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, I hope. I got my first grandchild's

498
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Speaker 3: getting married in a couple of months, so we're going

499
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Speaker 3: to that and then we'll see who knows.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine how cool it be to say, like,

501
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Speaker 2: my great grandfather is Mari Povich?

502
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Speaker 5: Like do you realize though, like just how like impactful

503
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Speaker 5: you've been to the culture and how many people really like.

504
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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I never thought that for a

505
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: long time, and then all of a sudden, all these

506
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Speaker 3: waves of you know, congratulations and all that and what

507
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: people and what I meant to what the show meant

508
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: to show many people, And I'm just so gratified. I

509
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: think one of the reasons the show was successful was

510
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: I never I never had any big shot itis. You know,

511
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: I never really thought of myself as I didn't have

512
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Speaker 3: an ego, right right right, And I think, look, the

513
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: first thing you do as a host, you've got to

514
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: make a connection with those viewers. You're not going to last.

515
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: I mean, in thirty some years, seventy five daytime talk

516
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: shows are in the graveyard failed. And the reason why

517
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 3: a host makes a connection, You've got to knock on

518
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: a door of people's homes. They have to want you

519
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: to come in wants you to sit down, either have

520
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: dinner with them or sit and watch TV with them,

521
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 3: and you've got to make a connection. And I'm so

522
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: happy that all over the years I was able to

523
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Speaker 3: make that connection. And the most amazing thing is my

524
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: experience in life is nothing like my guest's experience in life.

525
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Speaker 3: I mean, they had issues that I've never gone through,

526
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Speaker 3: but at the same time, they thought that they could

527
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Speaker 3: unburden themselves and felt that my place was a safe place.

528
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Speaker 3: And so just think it's basic human instinct and basic

529
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: human kindness and understanding that makes it happen.

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Speaker 2: You know, after thirty one seasons, when you stopped doing

531
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Speaker 2: the show, how was that for you? Because that's like

532
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Speaker 2: something that's over three decades of having, you know, and

533
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: when you think about it, though, how was that for

534
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: you to say, Okay, I am stepping away from this.

535
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to step away four years before okay, and

536
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: the executives at NBC, which owned my show, said no, no, no,

537
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: you know they're still watching this. So I signed a

538
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: two year deal. And then after that I said, okay,

539
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: I said no, two more years. So finally, when I

540
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Speaker 3: was eighty three years old.

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Speaker 5: I said, and that work schedule, schedules like, what y'all

542
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: shooting every day?

543
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Speaker 3: No, we shoot like two or three days a week.

544
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: But we would shoot two to three shows a day,

545
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Speaker 3: so we would can about five shows in one week,

546
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Speaker 3: and we would have one hundred and fifty and two

547
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Speaker 3: hundred shows a year.

548
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Speaker 6: Right here in New York.

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Speaker 3: Started in New York, but but moved to Stamford, Connecticut

550
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Speaker 3: the last ten years or so.

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Speaker 1: But that's when I went to Connecticut. I was I

552
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Speaker 1: was like, I never know they filmed in Stanford, Connecticut.

553
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Speaker 3: Did we send you a car?

554
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Speaker 1: You guys did in the car? Yes, I appreciate it. It's

555
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: not like.

556
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Speaker 3: The Today Show. I didn't want to my wife used to.

557
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: My wife used to say about the Today Show when

558
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: you had to get up real early, says, it's a

559
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: little like being a prostitute. They pick you up in

560
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: a limousine, but you got to find your own way home.

561
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Speaker 1: We're going to get you there to make sure you're there, but.

562
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Speaker 6: Figure it out.

563
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Things have changed, all right.

564
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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say I appreciate you so

565
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: much for coming through. I'm excited about this podcast.

566
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Speaker 3: Good, I'm glad. Now you all have to come on.

567
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a given. I would love to hopefully have

568
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Speaker 2: you a next month or so.

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Speaker 6: No, definitely, I can't believe yet the wedding.

570
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Speaker 3: And you don't have a partner yet yet.

571
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Speaker 6: I feel like I could, I could just feel in

572
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Speaker 6: and fill in the blanks.

573
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you this, if you if you

574
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Speaker 3: see the future so specifically with the event, what's the

575
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: mate look like?

576
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 6: Beautiful sense of humor?

577
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Bbl stop it?

578
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: Have you? Have you ever ever met a person like that?

579
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Speaker 6: In passing? I feel like but I feel like everyone

580
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 6: that I met that was like that. Yeah, might have

581
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: been crazy.

582
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Speaker 1: He asked me. Why didn't warning crazy?

583
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: Crazy does not work in a marriage?

584
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but only one of you can be.

585
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: I'll put it through this way. A little goofy is fine.

586
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Speaker 6: That's crazy. Is not that we don't we don't do crazy.

587
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 6: Crazy means line.

588
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: Crazy means that there could be some physicality we don't

589
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: want to don't want.

590
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Speaker 6: I don't want to be beat. Ye, I don't want

591
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Speaker 6: to be beat.

592
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Speaker 1: But you know, I will say. Mano likes to argue.

593
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Speaker 2: I think it gets him going, Like he'll come in

594
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: here certain days and he's on the phone arguing with

595
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Speaker 2: somebody and he loves it, like he'll be like, oh

596
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Speaker 2: my god, it's not crazy, I know, but you like arguing,

597
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: That's a little control chaos.

599
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: Like that, God, control chaos.

600
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Speaker 6: What I'm talking about.

601
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Speaker 3: My show was chaos sometimes.

602
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Speaker 1: Don't it courage more?

603
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, controlled chaos like that because there's an end

604
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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 1: It's controlled in a controlled environment.

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Speaker 2: You think everybody should get a paternity test, like when

607
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Speaker 2: I've heard people say when children are born automatically, it

608
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Speaker 2: should be a paternity I'll tell you this.

609
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Speaker 3: One of the reasons why we even did the show

610
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Speaker 3: was as it started, the New York Time, this is crazy.

611
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Speaker 3: The New York Times did a wide survey and found

612
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Speaker 3: out ten percent of the kids in the country are

613
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Speaker 3: with the wrong father.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can see that. That's a wild number.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, and with twenty three and me and all

618
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Speaker 2: this DNA testing, now a lot of people are finding

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Speaker 2: out that the person that they thought was their father

620
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Speaker 2: their whole life is not. I know, personally, people who

621
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Speaker 2: that's happened, don't.

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Speaker 3: Rely on twenty three and me. That might be a starter,

623
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Speaker 3: but you still got to get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you still got to do it, but it also

625
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: just leads Sometimes people grow up kind of knowing that

626
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: but not knowing for sure. You should see how many

627
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: people call up this show for tell us a secret.

628
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Speaker 2: We have a segment where people do their confessions right,

629
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Speaker 2: and they call up and are like, yeah, my husband

630
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Speaker 2: or you know, thinks that's his kid but it's not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a fact.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it happens a lot.

633
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Speaker 2: And then there's people who have found that out, you know,

634
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Speaker 2: that it's not really their father, and they found out

635
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Speaker 2: who their real father is.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's one of the reasons for the

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Speaker 3: popularity of the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which by the way, is still on today today

639
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Speaker 4: along with par With that's right right on YouTube, Spotify, Apple,

640
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: any of your podcast platform.

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Speaker 1: Good job, he's a professional. I'm par and listen.

642
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Speaker 2: No matter what, we were in here watching some of

643
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: these oh, we had to be like hold on, hold on,

644
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: we can't go up yet.

645
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: We got to find out what the result is like

646
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Speaker 1: even to this day.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know a lot of NFL players watch

648
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: the show and stuff like that, and all of them

649
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: tell me they're in the locker room during the morning.

650
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: My show's on the air. The coaches are up on

651
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Speaker 3: the field with their whistles trying to get them up,

652
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Speaker 3: and they won't come up till they find out who

653
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Speaker 3: the father is. Yeah. Absolutely, And then Shaq used to

654
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: tell me that he and his buddies bet on whether

655
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Speaker 3: they were the father or not.

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Speaker 2: We all bet in our head, like no, that's definitely,

657
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: that's definitely.

658
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Speaker 1: I was definitely wrong today a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, well, congratulations again and I cannot

660
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Speaker 2: wait for us to come and join you on on

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Speaker 2: your platform Living next season, Yeah, next season, Mary Povich