1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: What's going on everybody, DJ Bucky here moved the sticks 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: on a Thursday as we marched towards the weekend. Here, 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: we've got some rookie minicamps have already taken place, the 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: veterans and O t A s uh. That's that's coming 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: as well. So football starting to be played a little 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: bit behind the public eye. I should say, we don't 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: have a chance to to see these, just see some 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: of the reports that we're here and come out of those. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: But we've got we've got a busy show today. Bucky, 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: you're ready to go. I am ready to rock and roll. 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: How about you? I'm good man. Here's what we have 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: on the agenda for today. I want to I want 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: to start off. We'll get to talking about your take 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: on these really early take We've kind of kick this 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: around a little bit on this next crop of quarterbacks 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: we have in college football. Your thoughts on those. I've 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: got some thoughts on those guys as well. And then 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun. We're gonna do a kind 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: of a draft here of rookies based on what we 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: think they're gonna do year one, so not necessarily how 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: we had them great at coming out of college, but 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: taken into a out the teams they went to and 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: what we can expect from them right away, we'll go 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: ahead and and pick those guys and and have a 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: little draft there between me and Bucky. So that'll be 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: some fun. But Bucky, why don't you, why don't you 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: tell the folks what you had said or what you 29 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: had written rather about this next group of quarterbacks that 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: maybe getting some hype that you're not buying. Uh, I mean, 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: I just think it's is funny because all throughout the 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: draft process, we've talked about the seventeen class being quarterbacks 33 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: with a lot of question marks, and how a teams 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: should kind of punt on seventeen and go to eighteen 35 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: and look at these guys and the three guys that 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: we talked about all these under classrooms. So they may 37 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: not even come out, they may wait another year before 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: they um impress us with their talents. But Sam Donald 39 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: quarterback from USC Josh Rosen u c L a st quarterback, 40 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: and then Josh Allen the quarterback from Wyoming, And so 41 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: I was really excited after the draft to kind of 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: pop into taple look at these guys because I heard 43 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: so much about them being kind of the next level, 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the next generation of guys to take the game over. 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: And I'm going to say this, I was very impressed 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: with the talent that I saw. But I think a 47 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: lot of the same questions that we had on the 48 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen class, some of those would apply to the 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: guys in the eighteen class, and so I just kind 50 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: of think we need to temperate expectations a little bit 51 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: to think that the three guys that we mentioned, I 52 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: give you guys that kind of come in and have 53 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: an Andrew Luck type effect on the game if they 54 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: like to come out, well, I'm glad you said the 55 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Interrew Luck things. I want to kick this around a 56 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: little bit. I went back. We talked about this whole 57 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: project I did last year for the quarterbacks and last 58 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: year's draft class going through, and I like to just 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: do a cut up of third and six plus and 60 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: just watch all their throws on third and six plus, 61 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: because I know you share my frustration and watching these 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: college games now, so much bubble screen, so much quick screen, 63 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: tunnel screen, you don't get to see these guys really 64 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: recoverage and make plays down the field. So I just 65 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: kind of found and kind of stumbled across this idea 66 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: of sorting these third and six plus throws because you 67 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: can kind of cut through a lot of that crap 68 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: and you can see some more NFL type throws down 69 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: the field. So I did to cut up on those 70 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks you mentioned, and I think I'm a little 71 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: bit higher on him right now than you are, Buck, 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: But I thought it'd be fun just to kick around, 73 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: you know, our our initial thoughts on him, and like 74 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: we are long ways away. Who knows these kids are 75 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna even come out, But it's just it's fun to 76 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: kick around the different thoughts as we as we get 77 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: into the college season. But let's start with Sam Donald 78 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: because you just said the uh, you know, talk about 79 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: the Andrew luck I think you just mentioned that name. Okay? 80 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Is that is that what to be expected of this 81 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: class of quarterbacks? When I watched Donald third and six plus, 82 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the comparison that I made was Andrew Luck. Um, And 83 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: I'll just kind of go through my notes that I 84 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: that I wrote down on him. Um, this guy he's 85 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: got some serious hip Torque. I know you're gonna talk 86 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: We talk a lot about his delivery. It's gonna get 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: critiqued a lot because it's long, but it's explosive. It's 88 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: not a long, monotone slow delivery like a Byron left, 89 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: which I'm sure he'll get compared to Hi. People are 90 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna ding him on that it's long. Russell Wilson has 91 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: a long delivery as well. But like Russell Wilson, he's 92 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: got that hip torque and he's got a lot of explosiveness. 93 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Can get it out pretty quick for being a longer delivery. 94 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: He throws some small window throws. He's got plenty of velocity. 95 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: You see him work the full field in these situations. 96 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Um he can. He's got great pocket presence and feel. 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number. I don't think he 98 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: was sacked more than seven or eight times the entire season. 99 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: And the only alignment they had get drafted was Zach 100 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: Banner and I think it was what the fourth round. 101 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: So not playing behind a stellar group there. Anticipation thrower, 102 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: that's the best thing he does. He's got a quick mind. 103 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Um he shows some touch. You can see that down 104 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: on the red zone. Um he can. He's got some 105 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: decision making that he gets a little over aggressive at time. 106 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: It's a bad red zone interception because of that, And 107 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job of being able 108 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: to find check downs and work through progressions when you've 109 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: got in these situations. Now you'll see him fall off 110 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: some throws, but he's unique in that off platform falling 111 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: off throws, his placement is is still pretty good. I 112 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: would say deep ball accuracy um is an area he 113 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: can't improve. But I thought his deep ball accuracy was 114 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: much better than any of the guys we had in 115 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: this draft class. You know, It's it's funny because I 116 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: don't necessarily see Sam donald um much differently than you. 117 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: I try to stay away from, like some of the 118 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: mechanical things in terms of like the flaws in full 119 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: ward because I believe that's something that like the coaches 120 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: have to kind of figure that off. What figured that out? 121 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: When I looked at him. My initial reaction, good athlete, 122 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: great movement skills. UM. I thought he was a quick 123 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: rhythm passer. You talked about the long wind up, but 124 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: I felt like the ball came out quick. UM. I 125 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: thought he threw a great timing and anticipation. He kind 126 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: of understands exactly where he's supposed to go with the ball, 127 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and so because of that, I think the ball comes 128 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: out quick. You talked about not taking a lot of sacks. 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: I think some of that is a byproduct of he 130 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: has a clear understanding of where to go with the ball, 131 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: and he doesn't waste time, he doesn't kind of hang 132 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: on his reads. The ball comes out from a footwork perspective. 133 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: The only thing that I worried about I thought he 134 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: was a little shaky sometimes because I worried about his 135 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: eyes and feet being, um, not connected, and he would 136 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: kind of fall off and you know, not necessarily finished 137 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: to throw the way that you would like to see 138 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: from a textbook standpoint. But I thought he was fine. 139 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: His numbers are great, thirty one and nine. Um. The 140 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: thing that I had concerns about the deep ball accuracy, 141 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: which you alluded to. I didn't see them really take 142 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: a lot of shots in this offense. So I didn't 143 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: want to ding him on it. I just like, man, 144 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: they just don't take a lot of shots, because I 145 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: felt like in looking at their offense, it is one 146 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: that kind of blends a couple of different systems. It's 147 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: a little spread, it has some of the bear raid 148 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: or area concepts where it's really quick, it comes out 149 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: quick screens, r p O s. They do a lot 150 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: of mesh routes, and he's does a great job of that. 151 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: I just wonder, when we talk about some of the 152 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, how does that translate to the next level. 153 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Not saying that it doesn't, It's just one of those 154 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: things that when we're looking at him this year, let's 155 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: see if he goes from UM playing at this level 156 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: to doing some graduate level stuff. As Clayhelton and those 157 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: guys continue to put more on him. I thought he 158 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: was very, very good. I like the poise UM. I 159 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: like the ability to step up and keep moments like 160 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: he showed in the rose Ball. I just think, like 161 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: all these guys and ten stars, you just kind of 162 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: want to see more. UM. He's intriguing. I'm just not 163 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: necessarily ready to annoy him like some of the others. 164 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Not you, but some of the other guys have said like, oh, 165 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: he is, without a doubt the number one over a pick. 166 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm just this, yeah, But I mean, but I think 167 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. I don't necessarily worry 168 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: about the long wind up in those things the only 169 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: thing that I've seen him, I saw him shorten it 170 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: up at times, so I know he can't. Yeah, so 171 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: I I don't really worry about it. I think like 172 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: sometimes as scals not so us, like sometimes you can 173 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: get over technical with some of those things, and does 174 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: that stuff matter. I didn't see a lot of tip balls. 175 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of um late breaking dbs 176 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: run in front of his balls and and those things. 177 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: So I think he puts plenty of pace on the 178 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: plenty of plenty of speed, So I'm not worried about that. 179 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: I just want to continue to see him make good decisions. 180 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: I felt like on tape and watching four games, I 181 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: felt like he got away with a couple of mistakes 182 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that could have been turnovers. And uh, it was funny 183 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: because I don't know what I did. I think I 184 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: googled and they talked about his reports at spring ball. 185 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: He has had like he had a number of interceptions 186 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: during the spring that may be because they're breaking in 187 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: a new wide receiver corps. The main thing that I 188 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: want to see is I want to see him continue 189 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: to be productive while keeping those interception totals down, because 190 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: if he's a good decision maker, and he's accurate. You 191 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: can play with any of those guys as a franchise quarterback. Okay, 192 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple of things there. 193 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: First of all, circling back, I looked it up. So 194 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: Sam Donald and three hundred and sixty six pass attempts 195 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: got sacked six times, and trust me, there were a 196 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: lot more he should have been sacked where you got 197 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: free run throughs and he was able to avoid it. 198 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Take into account, I think he started the last nine games, right, 199 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: is that what it was? Jil So? Max Brown started 200 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: three games, he got sacked six times. So I mean 201 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: that playing behind the same group there. Obviously that's Alabama 202 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: and Stanford, Max Brown start against some better competition earlier season. 203 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: But so I like that about on the fact that 204 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: he can make decisions, he can avoid and get out 205 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: of trouble. The other point I'll hit on is, look, 206 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: just from my limited experience that I played the position, 207 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: I was always told by coaches when you were in 208 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: when you're in training camp or when you're in a 209 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: fall camp and then you're in spring practice, Hey, this 210 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: is a time where you want to take be aggressive. 211 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: See if you can see what you can get away 212 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: with that. That's that's the way to doing that. So 213 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't get caught up in terms of interceptions and 214 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: practice and a lot of stuff. And we'll see reports 215 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, these rookie quarterbacks in NFL 216 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: training camp, and people will be jotting down all their 217 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: numbers and freaking out about interceptions. And then you get 218 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: out in the field and you realize you kind of 219 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: rain that in a little bit, so that one doesn't 220 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: bother me as much. I just think, like, here, here's 221 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: my question for you, Buck. It's a very very small 222 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: sample size, and this is so unscientific, and I'm sure 223 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: this bothers some people, but I kind of believe in it, 224 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: just like Sam Donald and Mitch Rubisky, like you you do. 225 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: You look at Sam Donald and see the it does 226 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: he have the it factor? And he has more He 227 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: definitely has more effected than Mitch Dubinsky. And I would 228 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: say that because the signature win. I think the signature 229 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: wins for Sam Donald. And I know we can't necessarily 230 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 1: judge people on wins, but you kind of have to 231 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: because that's why they played a position. When I watched 232 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: him play against Washington when they needed, the game got tighter, 233 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: he made some plays to kind of finish the game 234 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: in the rolls bawl. This is a team that jumped 235 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: out on top of Penn State. Penn State comes all 236 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: the way back and in the fourth quarter he found 237 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: a rhythm that was able to bring him back. He 238 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: has more it factor than Mitchell Drobiski absolutely, all right, wait, 239 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: look it's gonna again. This is a limited number of 240 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: starts with Sam Donald. Will see well, but I think 241 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a good comparison. And you're you're right 242 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: to bring it up because Mr Drobisky only had thirteen 243 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: collar stars, so ten it starts thirteen stars, you got 244 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: the same sample size and you're trying to feel it 245 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: pop off the tape. And for Mitchell, I mean he's 246 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: the number two overall pick. I never necessarily felt it 247 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: pop off the tape. The one thing that I can 248 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: feel about Sam Donald, and I believe you have to 249 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: at some point for a franchise quarterback, you have to 250 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: feel like he's the best guy on the field. I 251 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: did feel like in some games it's Sam Donald was 252 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the best guy on the field, and the Rose Bowl, 253 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: I felt like when he took over you felt his presence. 254 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I think it's just very very important to those guys 255 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: exhibit that at certain times. Yeah, no question. All right, 256 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: let's move on now to Josh Rosen. I'll give Why 257 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: don't you first of all give me your thought, then 258 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I'll read what I watched. I had to go back 259 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: and I watched the cut up from because didn't play 260 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: a whole lot this year because injury. You know, Um, 261 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: when I look at Josh Rosen, classic drop back passer um, 262 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I think he plays well in a pro style offense, 263 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: quick release. I kind of labored him a MLB picture, 264 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: meaning he can throw different different pitches, he can change 265 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: speeds and tempo. Um. I thought he was pretty good 266 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: with his accuracy. I thought he could fit the ball 267 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: in tight windows, tight spaces. He put the ball on 268 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the receiver's proper shoulder depending on where the defender was. 269 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: I thought he had good timing and anticipation. Over I 270 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: just thought he was very very talented. Thought he had 271 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: good range. Um. The thing that was a little concerning 272 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: was the injury this year. The soldier a show to 273 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: injury is concerned and because he only started six games, 274 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't nearly as dazzling or as spectacular as he 275 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: was in previous the previous year. But I think he 276 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: is a very natural quarterback that is scheme friendly, meaning 277 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: I think you can drop him in the most schemes 278 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: and he will easily be able to not only pick 279 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: it up, but to perform in those schemes. First thought, 280 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: I wanna get your thought on this, and then I'll 281 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: get into what I saw. Give me your thoughts on 282 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: the supporting cast at U c l A. This last year. 283 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: I wasn't really impressed roast. I've never I've never I've 284 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: never been impressed with anything that they've had on the outside, 285 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: even Jordan Payton and those other guys like I mean 286 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: like last year, the year before, like Jordan Payton and 287 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: and Duarte like look capable. I mean that they're professional 288 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: football players, are in the National Football League. Last year 289 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: I watched him. Hey, they can't separate, b they can't 290 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: catch and see, they can't protect. No, I mean, I 291 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: think I think that's that's a huge that's a huge issue, 292 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: and it's off because none of these guys are necessarily 293 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: on level a level playing field when it comes to 294 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: the supporting cast and those things. He definitely doesn't have 295 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: a supporting cast. I think the biggest issues with Josh 296 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Rosen are going to be more off the field than 297 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: on the personality. Personality, how he gets along with his 298 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: teammates and coaches, is he the smartest guy in the room, 299 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: those things, and then also the durability. Um, At the 300 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: end of the day, it comes down to character and 301 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: medical those things you come wipe away. But I am 302 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: a guy that with Josh Rosen in terms of just 303 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: looking at the talent, to me, he looks like what 304 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: the prototypical NFL passers should look like in terms of 305 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: the way that he delivers, the way that he throws, 306 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: the way that he plays it. All right, here's my 307 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: notes from from that cut up. He's got a firm base. 308 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: You see him climb up in the pocket. He is 309 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: smooth and easy. You talk about just a natural throwing motion. 310 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: It's outstanding. He's aware. Um, I thought he got a 311 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: little bit greedy at times instead of just kind of 312 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: taking some stuff underneath. He does a nice job of 313 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: keeping his eyes up the under pressure though. Um, he 314 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: again needs to do a better job of giving up 315 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: on a play. Takes some unnecessary sacks because of that. 316 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: He does have nice touch. He can drive it as 317 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: well as touch it up. He's got plenty of velocity. 318 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: I wrote down drops and I started like ten times 319 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: because they can't catch. I thought, just overall instincts was 320 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: really really good. He has made some wild throws and 321 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: in terms of just how he played the position and 322 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: maybe even athletically a little bit, I wrote down Eli Manning, 323 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: that's who skills kind of reminded me of Eli Manning. Now, 324 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think he was. I think he was 325 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: back in the spring. I think his health looks like 326 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: it should be okay. I'm anxious to see him this 327 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: year though again third coordinator in three years. But Jed 328 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Fish while I was around in Baltimore, who's coming from Michigan. Um, 329 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: hopefully they'll do a better job of trying to help 330 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: him out a little bit. Yeah, I think so. I 331 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: think if he gets an opportunity to show people what 332 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: he could do and more of a pro in a 333 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: pro style system. Uh, he was really good at NOAM zones. 334 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: UH spread system that has some West Coast elements to it, 335 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: like some of the snack things that they do, those 336 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: things transfer and translating other systems. I just want to 337 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: see him play the game, and hopefully you can put 338 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: together four twelve to thirteen games so we can really 339 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: evaluate him because I think potentially he has all the 340 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: stuff that you look for when we talk about the 341 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: top of the board type quarterback. I just hoping you 342 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: see has got some dang receivers in the pipeline here. Man, 343 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: it can't be hard to recruit receivers when you've got 344 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: a big time quarterback. There shouldn't saw a rock and 345 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: hit a bunch of ye just shouldn't. It shouldn't be 346 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: hard for those guys. But sometimes in terms of getting 347 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: them in school and and doing those things, they haven't 348 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: had a big time like I mean they stood. You 349 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: would think that U. C. L. A. J. J. Stokes 350 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Man would have a stud wide receiver. I mean they 351 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: have not had a dude in a long time on 352 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: the perimeter. All right, last one here, I'll give you 353 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: my Josh Allen notes from my Oma and they don't 354 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: get your get your thoughts on them. Here. It's a 355 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,239 Speaker 1: third and six plus throws. There are eighty two of them. Um, 356 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: you see him in that same offense that Carson Wentz 357 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: played in the same coaching staff. There's you see him done, 358 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: you'll see him under center. I thought the ball just 359 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: jumps out of his hands. Um. He does see some 360 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: ghosts in the pocket. He'll bail out of clean pockets. 361 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: He makes some incredible wild throws on the move, much 362 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: like we saw last year from from Mahomes. He does 363 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: some of that stuff just rare, rare arm talent. Um. 364 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: He gets a little bit frenetic at times and needs 365 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: to just kind of show a little more poise, a 366 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: little more calm. He's uh, he's got an easy motion 367 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: to fall again, his rare arm strength. He flashes some anticipation. 368 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Needs to be more consistent. There needs some more touch. 369 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Um Uh. Mid range is an area he can improve. 370 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Cross body throws, some of those same things we hit 371 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes on. He does some of those same things as well. 372 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: But I wrote down miracle tds like he'll make some 373 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: just ridiculous plays. And for the comparison, now he's got 374 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: to get he's got to become more consistent. But just 375 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: in terms of how he throws and how he looks, 376 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: I wrote down a more athletic Joe Flacco. Flacco has 377 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: got a huge arm. This kid has got a huge arm. Man, 378 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: he and he's athletic. I got a question for me 379 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: about this cat. Yeah, go for it. Um. The Nebraska game. 380 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been able to what I mean. 381 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: It's obviously it all kind of happened, and I've talked 382 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: to the kid about it. Even he just said, look, 383 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: it's just once it happened, it just kind of snowballed 384 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: and the game just completely got away from it at 385 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: one point in time. Yeah, I think I think devil 386 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: so much like you. What I saw a big athletic 387 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: quarterback wrote down gun slinger, a plus arm talent, has 388 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: a rifle. He is a fast ball pitcher. He comes in, 389 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: he's storing the heater all day every day, like he's 390 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: waving off all other signs. Excellent range, zip velocity. UM. 391 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I had questions about his accuracy and his ball place 392 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: and I felt like there were many times, and some 393 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: of this is due to his footwork he was high 394 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: and wide just all over the place, particularly intermediate range. 395 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm worried about his decision maker. Is his ability as 396 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: a decision maker to make good decisions with the ball. 397 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: I felt like he threw it up Sometimes you talk 398 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: about those miraculous touchdowns those were great, But I also 399 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: saw some balls that man, he he got away with 400 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: some some of were intercepted. You just want him to 401 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: take better care of the ball. I was really positive 402 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: on his toughness. I thought he was a tough dude. 403 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: He took he took some shots in the pocket. He 404 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: ran the ball very very well. Uh. He plays in 405 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: a system that is easy to look at and translate 406 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: what he would be at the next level. The thing 407 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: about him, and I wrote this right now, he is 408 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: a better prospect than in terms of a finished product. 409 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: He is someone like Mahomes, like some of the other 410 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: guys h Jay Cutler and other guys. He's extremely talented. 411 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: And what you're hoping is if you take a guy 412 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, you can coach some of those bad 413 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: things out of him, and you really can find a 414 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: way to harness all of those skills. He might be 415 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: the most talented of the three, but in terms of 416 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: playing the position, I ranked him at the bottom of 417 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: the three when it comes to Donald, Rosen and Alan 418 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: and in fact, um my three I had Rosen, Donald 419 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Dan Allen. Uh, I think you probably have it flipped. 420 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't wi Donald Rosen, Donald Rosen, right and 421 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: so and so we're that the common denominators. We see 422 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: Allen as a very talented player. But when we mentioned 423 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: the names that he kind of reminds us of, I 424 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: heard my homes I throughout Cutler those things. He's a 425 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: gun slinger and what you're banking on right now? If 426 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: we took him, could he develop? This year would be 427 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: critical for him because I think he has even less 428 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: available at his disposal, and so we may see the 429 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: numbers go up, and it may not be a reflection 430 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: to him, may not be an accurate reflection of him 431 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: not making good decisions but having to take more chances 432 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: because he just doesn't have the people around him like 433 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: Rosen and like Donald may have going into Iowa Week one, 434 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: that'll be fine. I mean, that's the big thing. I 435 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: think a couple of these guys have some big stage 436 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: games early where we got a chance to kind of 437 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: hear the buzz about these guys. Some of the others 438 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: hosting Oregon too. Oregon goes to why only on defense 439 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: last year. I know they got Jim Levitt there, but 440 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: he should be able to do some damage against them. 441 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Here's one though, Buck, I would take him just based 442 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: off what I saw last year, I would I think 443 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Alan is more talented than the Homes. I would take 444 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: him over Pam over Patrick Mahomes. Let's see, um, I 445 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: think he plays the game and I ain't got better feet. 446 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: I think he's got quicker feet. I think he's more natural, 447 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: he's under center. I think some of those things he's 448 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: ahead of Mahomes. They have the same strengths and the 449 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: same weaknesses. Man, you know that's a that's a real 450 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: tough debate. Because I did not like the way Mahomes 451 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: played the game. I didn't write the same thing now 452 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: because I've talked about sand Lot and those other things, 453 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: this gout to me is a little more refined. I 454 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: think there's less to kind of work. Can't make it easier. Yeah, 455 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I would take Alan over Mahomes. 456 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: Similar prospects, similar players, But to me, Alan would probably 457 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: be able to get on the field sooner then Mahomes, 458 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: and I think you could probably win games if both 459 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: guys had to play. Right now, I think you probably 460 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: can win more games with Alan than with Momes because 461 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: I think Mahomes is going to have more turnals. Both 462 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: of us, these guys gonna turn the bowl over a lot. 463 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: But I think with Alan, I still think he's probably 464 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: a little salvageable. We're gonna get to this all rookie team. 465 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna do our rookie draft here in just a second. 466 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: Before we do that, we're gonna get to a little me, 467 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: Andy's action. But before we get to me, Andy's Bucky. 468 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm gonna come clean. 469 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I had a pedicure today and it was awesome. Oh 470 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: my gosh, have you done that? I have had pedicures 471 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: you Oh my last week? Oh my gosh, hashtag offseason. 472 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: You're living. You're living the life like you. All I 473 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: do is vacuum. I vacuum pedicus. Man, that's my off season. 474 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: You are living the life. I'm jealous everyone, and semi 475 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: jealous of here right now. And the story true story. 476 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: So I go get the pedicure. Right there's a sign up. 477 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see it for I'm the only dude in there. 478 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: There's fifty ladies in there. I go in there, so 479 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: and I just looked down at my phone the whole time. 480 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully nobody knows me or it's like, you know, 481 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: one of my friends with mom or whatever. So go 482 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: in there. There's a sign. I didn't even see it. 483 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: It says we appreciate cash tips, so they don't take part. 484 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: So I don't have any cash on me, so I 485 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: finish up, you know, the whole deal. I went with Hollywood. 486 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Uh number it was number four, the number four package. 487 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: So it's twenty eight bucks for this thing, right, So okay, 488 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: whatever it was worth, it was fantastic. So I pay 489 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: with the card and I go, okay, they hand me 490 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: the receiver. There's no place to write a tip, and 491 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: then I see the sign. Crap, so a t M 492 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: in there right, so that I'm just like, I gotta 493 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: get out of here as soon as possible, Like, just 494 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: get me out of this thing. So the thing was 495 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: twenty eight bucks, and obviously you get the cash out 496 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: of the machine. Y he gets twenties. Yeah dropped. I 497 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: dropped a twenty and just bolted out of there. I mean, 498 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: you should be good for you getting you. Yeah, go 499 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: in there looking for you, you're looking for you, but 500 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: you get get treated. What you get your your calvs 501 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: and everything you get to my campasage and all the 502 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: other stuff. Did you get? Uh? Did you get a 503 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: color on your nails, no coloring, no coloring there was. 504 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'm not gonna go with the 505 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: nice move the sticks like bluish here to it. Yeah. 506 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you. The thing 507 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: that they do with the little sharp deal on your 508 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: cuticles that hurts a little bit. I'm not a big 509 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: fan of that. No, you didn't, like they're trying to 510 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: even everything out on the bed of your nail like 511 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: not not not big on that. But let's say, let's 512 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: get back to some more masculine stuff. Me and He's Bucky. Uh. 513 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: This is uh, this is something that people need to 514 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: do around around the country. I don't think it's just 515 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: our listeners. I think it's just American general. They up 516 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: they need an upgrade their they're underwear game. Go to 517 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the next level with me Andy's. They absolutely do, and 518 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: they probably ask you what what is me Andy's? It's 519 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: just seriously saw feel good and he's delivered right to 520 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: your door. Mean, he's a design in l a made 521 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: from sustainable, sustainably source micromodal, a fabrucy three times softer 522 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: than cotton meat, andy softing, the soft lux Andy's come 523 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: and it ever changes the election of classic colors, bullige's 524 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: and adventurous patterns, so you can tailor your undies to 525 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: your person. Stop, what's your favorite bold shade? Speaking of 526 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: bold shades, you know, I haven't seen me any of them. 527 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: I think they sent some red um not really a 528 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: red guy. I think we need to get some pizza. 529 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: Pizza matterze. It comes in like it's a little pizza 530 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: box too. They do you know what for you, Sully Um? 531 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: You can save time and money each month with a 532 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: monthly subscription. That might help need a monthly subscripted? Do 533 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: you know? And if you're not ready for that, it's 534 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: okay you can still say that's because me Andy's is 535 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: offering you off your first pair. Just use a special 536 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: you are ill. Met Undy's dot com slash NFL twenty 537 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: seventeen and get off your first pick. Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? 538 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: Did you say? That's right? Go ahead, Sully revamp. You 539 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: deserve it once again. That's meets dot com slash NFL 540 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Meet Undy's dot com slash And if I 541 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: gotta say that's the best rain. Oh, you get better 542 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: every week. Y'all are knocking them out of the ballpark. Man, 543 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: you should have heard read it had to do for 544 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: Game Pass. It was epic. Nine minut read the teleprompter 545 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: on stage one. How did you do with that thing? 546 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: It's a lot. That's a fun time. I've had to 547 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: do that before, and I'm not gonna lie to you. 548 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm usually pretty good with the takes that. That's the 549 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: most takes I've ever done on that ran out of 550 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: gas and I am I ran I get my breath 551 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't control my breathing and ran out of gas. 552 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Here's a thing. Here's what gets me on those long 553 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: raids though. It's like I'll start like leaning, like I'll 554 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: like read it and they're like what are you doing? 555 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: Or like your hands are like kind of acting here. 556 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with my hands. Yeah, long, 557 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: long read? Hey, real quick before we move on, did 558 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: you say micromotal? Now I'm kidding Art. Let's let's let's 559 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: go to our rookie draft here. But you got draft 560 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: tracker up on your computer? Uh, I don't let me 561 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: see if I can pull I've got NFL dot com 562 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: Draft tracker, which if you're at home when you're curious 563 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: about what happened in the draft. You forget who went where. 564 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: It's great. You just you go to NFL dot com. 565 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: Up in the top. There's a little icon there. It's 566 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: as tracker. You click on it. You can sort it 567 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: by the name of the players or positions, the college, 568 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: the NFL team that drafted him, uh, the round that 569 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: they were selected, and and then it has grade, which 570 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: is our Lances air Lines uh pre draft grades on 571 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: these guys. So what we're gonna do here just kind 572 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: of go through positions, Bucky, Let's just do one player 573 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: per position who we think is going to have the 574 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: best rookie campaign. So we can't we can't repeat. We'll 575 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: just I'll go first on one, you on the next one. 576 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: We'll go back and forth. All right, let's start with 577 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks here, the quarterback that will have the best 578 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: rookie season, assuming you know, hopefully some of these guys 579 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: get on the field. If I had to choose the 580 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: best rookie year out of this group, I think I'm 581 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna still go with DeShawn Watson buck Well, 582 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to go to Sean Watson. 583 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: He's the only one that is kind of fast tracked 584 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to play the Kaiser. Yeah, but I think I think 585 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: he has to play. That's the biggest knock on him 586 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: is he hasn't played, So now you're not gonna play him. 587 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: I know Glennan's there, but true bisk he's gonna play. 588 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: I mean he may play. He may play four or 589 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: five games. What if Glenna comes and knocks it out 590 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: to Park Kevin White, those other guys, he may not 591 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to play. Deshaun Watson is fast track 592 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: to be able to start maybe double digit games. That 593 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: should give him the nod over those other guys. The 594 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: only other one did I would potentially watch. I don't, man, 595 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if none of these guys are really 596 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: in a position to play. Don't get you some Kaiser maybe. 597 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Kaiser is gonna beat out Brock Osweader 598 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: and Cody Kessler. I think Brock Osweller is gonna be there. 599 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he'd get you get a chance, but Cody Kessler. 600 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson said, remember you're saying some crazy stat about 601 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Cody Kesler. Last year I was I was only a 602 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: year off. Yeah, it was a thirty year olds off. Yeah, 603 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: you were all over and he had a higher passer 604 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: rating to Eli Manning. Yeah. Yeah, what was Bucky's Bowl prediction? 605 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: Remember of Cody Keister. We go for a three hundre 606 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: yard game against and we laughed at him and he 607 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: was really close, really the guard a little bit. It 608 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: all counts, It counts, So fantasy is fantasy for accounts. Hey, 609 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, I'm getting sold. I 610 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: forget what we talk about. Did we talk didn't we 611 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: talk about Legarrett Blunt going to the Eagles last week? 612 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Because somebody on Twitter said, hey, good calling that right man. 613 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: You might have a confused with somebody else, but I don't. 614 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember bringing up a Blunt. Yeah, I think 615 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: we did talk about that, so kudos to us. All right, Bucky, 616 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: So you gotta pick a quarterback, Just pick one. I mean, 617 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna have to take Cherubisky. And the 618 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: reason we to take Cherubisky, we will say that something 619 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: happens with Mike glenn It early in the year, Rubisky 620 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: gets on the field and maybe they tailored the system 621 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: to help him out. Um. I don't like the supporting 622 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: cast that they have currently in place, but maybe the 623 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: guy is better than than we thought. He was a 624 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: very accurate, uh player. He's the guy who throws the 625 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: timing anticipation. Maybe if he gets an opportunity in Chicago, 626 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: in the Winnie City, maybe delivers. All right, how about 627 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: running backs? You're at first running back. That's rookie season 628 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: on these running backs, can't I am going to go 629 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: good ones here? Man, there's so many good options, right No, Uh, 630 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: normally I would say Dalvin Cook. I'm gonna say with Cook. 631 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cook Cook. Yeah, he's my office rookie of 632 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: the year. All right, man, there's so many I like here, 633 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: A couple of down the line guys I really like. Um. 634 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: Remember this is for this year's production. So yeah, I 635 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: know if I had to help you touch, I'm telling 636 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: you what, I have some guts. I just take Jamal Williams. 637 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, I think is gonna have a good year 638 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: for the Packers. Um for Net obviously is a good 639 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: option here, McCaffrey. A lot of these guys are going 640 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: to have an impact. Yeah, I forget it. I'm going 641 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. Put it out there, go go big or 642 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: go home, go big, throw it out, throw it out. Alright, 643 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I'm up here, best rookie year out of 644 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: this wide receiver group. Now, remember Mike Thomas. Michael Thomas 645 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: had the best year last year and not a first 646 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: round pick. So it could be somebody lurking in the 647 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: weeds here like A Jones or that was my guy. 648 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: I see he gets hurt. He's hurt already. They hurt 649 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: his knee. They say he's week the week. It's not 650 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: a game, it's not a game yet. But um, all right, 651 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go the receiver my first pick. I'm gonna 652 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: stick with my guy. I'm gonna go Corey Davis playing 653 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: there with Marcus Mariot with the Titans have a big year. Oh, 654 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Corey Davis. That makes sense. He should be fast tracked 655 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: to the number one position. I normally would lean towards 656 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: Mike Willis, but Mike Williams maybe the number three receiver 657 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: for the charges. Right away, quietly, um uh, you know, 658 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: z A. Jones was earmarked as my guy the week. 659 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: He's not gonna miss any games. But I don't. I 660 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna through it. After he came 661 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: on the PODCASTA I know he did, but I'm gonna 662 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: with someone who's friendly to us and paths to the JAFFI. 663 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Or a Cooper Cup. Whoa Cooper Cup with the Rams 664 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: and the reason, I don't know if they have anybody else. 665 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: They consistently catch the ball outside of Robert Woods. If 666 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: that's the case, Cooper Cup should see a lot of 667 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: balls going his way. They canna behind in a bunch 668 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: of games. They have to throw it an agent with 669 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah, he might be, he might be. He 670 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: might be the big deep fantasy sleeper. Yeah, maybe some 671 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: long balls. I don't know if he's been kissing long balls. 672 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna kiss some balls. So catchy. All right, so 673 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: you're up. You're up on tight ends. Oh, tight ends. 674 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm going big on Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram for the 675 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: New York Gihnts should have a big year. Um, But 676 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: the way this team is constructed outside Odell Beckham Jr. 677 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: And Brandon Marshall, they can't cover everybody. That means that 678 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: my guy's going to be left uncovered. I look for 679 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: him to fifty plus catches. There's six seven touchdowns. All right, 680 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: let's uh who you guys? I got a drum roll? 681 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: Do we have a drum roll. Adam David and Joker 682 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: is one of those guys. Who'd you say, boy is 683 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: either Adam, David and Joku? Those are your guys break 684 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: break in the time. I love give mean Joko. Oh, 685 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: I know that, I'm all in buck. I've readden that, 686 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: I've readen that from start to finish. He's my twelfth 687 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: overall player. I had O. J. Howard my ninth or so. 688 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: He was a little bit higher on my list. But 689 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: David and Joku, I'm gonna ride that thing all the 690 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: way through. I'm gonna say he's gonna have a big 691 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: rookie year. Who else is gonna throw the ball too? 692 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna happen. He's gonna make it. Probably can't get open, 693 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you have to. And then Cody 694 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: Castler be able to keep the Shaan Kaiser on the beach, 695 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: throwing those hand garnaides up in the air and feet. 696 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: You say, it's the easiest throw right over the middle. 697 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: Just drop it to the big fellow, let him box out. 698 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: All right, what have we got now we're going off. 699 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: Race is gonna say this guy is gonna start sixteen 700 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: games and and be a good point. Can I go? 701 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Can I go to for one? You go first? You 702 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: went first, went first. I get to go first. I'm 703 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: so excited about it. Uh, I'm gonna go. Uh, come on, 704 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: high stick with I'll stick with Forest Lamp. Roll with 705 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Forest Lamp. Well, when you take Forest Lamp, you get 706 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: damn Feenie for free. Oh two first, the two for yeah, 707 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: because they're both are gonna start, So you get both 708 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: of them, you get, you get what a barking for you. 709 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna to Cam Robinson in Jacksonville. He's positioned, they're 710 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: putting them at left. How he's gonna have an opportunity 711 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: to start, regardless of whether Brandon Albert shows up or not. 712 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna have an opportunity to kind of set the 713 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: tone on that offensive line. So, Cam Robinson, you've got 714 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: two for one. I'm good, alright, I got I got 715 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: a great story for you here real quick, because there 716 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: was a um what we got defensive line? Now, defensive 717 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: lineman up, let's do defensive linement. I'll share my story here. Uh, 718 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: you're up first, defensive lineman. Your choice. Who This is 719 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: a tough one. I'm gonna go off the grid. How 720 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: about Jonathan Allen. Okay, like Washington Risk is uh my guy, 721 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Greg Manusky says, the one thing they're gonna do is 722 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat the crap out of people. Well, he 723 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: got the right guy, Jonathan Allen and Ryan Anderson Jonathan 724 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: Allison had the point of attack is that five techniques 725 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: should be able to really create some opportunities for Ryan Kerrigan. 726 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how many sex is gonna have, but 727 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: I think his impact is going to be felt for 728 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: this Washington Risk in defense, I like that one. I'm 729 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna go rookie. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Derek 730 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: Barnett with the Eagles having a big year, somebody you 731 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: love like this draft process. I think he'll do a 732 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: nice job opposite Brandon Graham, who ended his cold out 733 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: that I guess really wasn't a hold out. He's back 734 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: in the mix. I think Derek Barnett has a big year. 735 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you my story here real quick. 736 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: So I'm talking to somebody the day it said, uh, 737 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: some some rookies they were doing interviews after practice and 738 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: said they're talking about how you know that the transition 739 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: NFL hasn't been that that big a deal. You know, 740 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: it's really just a little bit more terminology, but it's 741 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: no different than college and just KNA. You know, it's 742 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: gonna be probably, it will be fine. A couple of 743 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: rookies saying this. One of the veterans was there, uh, 744 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: watching the rookie minicamp, and so the veteran came up 745 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: put his arm around. A couple of these rookies said, boys, 746 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: the varsity ain't got here yet. Pretty confident after that. 747 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: Rookie Campbell a free agents. Oh, I know, I know. 748 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: It's so funny how how he goes. I think it's 749 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: interesting hearing uh Pat mahomes uh talk about the verbage 750 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: and just how much different it was in terms of 751 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: the NFL playbook compared to some of the stuff that 752 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: they've had to do and so many other guys are spending. Um, 753 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting here in the rookie reports. It would be 754 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: even more interesting seeing what it's like when everybody's together, 755 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: Like you talked about the varsity being there. All right, 756 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: let's go linebackers. I think I got the first pick here, Uh, linebackers. 757 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: It's gonna have a great rookie year. I'm gonna go 758 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: to a guy who I think was kind of built 759 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: to play for this football team. I'm gonna go. T J. 760 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: Watt going to the Steelers having a good rookie season, 761 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: getting you maybe eight to ten sacks in there. I 762 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: can see that he's already been impressive. I saw with 763 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and Kevin Cobra talked about his hand skills, 764 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: and obviously his older brother j J has schooled him 765 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: up on how to get to the quarterback. I think 766 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: you can have an impact. They haven't had a guy 767 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: that could really make plays off that edge in a while. 768 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a young player that could do it. 769 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: T J. Way could be the next one. I'm gonna go, 770 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: and I know there are concerns about his health, but 771 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: I just have to believe that somehow Ruben Foster finds 772 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: his way onto the field and he lives up to 773 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: all of the stuff that we saw and those same 774 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: b roke lips, because right now, in my mind, I'm 775 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 1: seeing him punished the USC guy that we saw every 776 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: time we were on path to the draft. I think 777 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: Ruver Foster is a guy that's gonna have a huge 778 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: impact on the inside, and my guy that's right after him, 779 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: if he doesn't play, would be Jered Davis country lines. 780 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: Go corners here, let's go corners. What do you got cornerback? Cornerback, 781 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: cornerback man? You know it's it's kind of tough. I'm 782 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna go down the line and I am going to 783 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: say that Cheeto a woozier. Oh nice, big impact for 784 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. He's gonna have to get on the field. 785 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: He's gonna to play. He's gonna play a lot of 786 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: man to man coverage and some zone. I was really 787 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: impressed with his smarts and his instincts and toughness when 788 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: he came in here. I think he's gonna have a 789 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: chance to make an impact. All right. There's a couple 790 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: that I like here as White. I like with the 791 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: Bills having a chance to make an impact right away. 792 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I like that Dorry Jackson, you know your guy. I 793 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: think is gonna get his hands on some football. He's 794 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: a playmaker. But I'm not gonna outthink myself here. I'm 795 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: gonna go with Marshawn Lattimore. Um. I thought he was 796 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: the best corner in the draft going to the Saints 797 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: that could really use him. Think I'll have an immediate impact. 798 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: They need him to have an immediate impact because he 799 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: has to be pivotal in that tournamound. So yeah, he's 800 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of hrels, plenty of opportunity. He's learning 801 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: behind a great possession coaching Aery Glenn, and Glenn should 802 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: kind of be able to sit the table for him, 803 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: help get it every nice young secondary. We'll see how 804 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: they play out though. All right, safety Buck, I guess 805 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: I'm up first here. Wow, I'm I'm gonna just continue again. 806 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: I'll roll with my guy all the way through. I 807 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: know UH ended up having Jamal Adams one spot over 808 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: Milley Cooker. But Milley Cooker sounds like he's gonna be 809 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: ready for training camp. He's a ballhawk. I think he 810 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: has the biggest year one impact. Wow, that's cool. That 811 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: is really good now on on paper. I've always said 812 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: this multiple times. I've said, Jamal Adams to me is 813 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: a guy that I think would be an instant uh 814 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: culture changer in New York. But I'm gonna go with 815 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: a different answer in this because I think Buddha Baker 816 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: could have a significant for the areas on the car. 817 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: It's his versatility, his ability of playing the slot, the 818 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: ying and the yang that you get with Uh, Buddha 819 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: Baker and Honey Badger should allow the defense to kind 820 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: of get back on right. So I'm gonna say Buddha 821 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: Baker has a huge impact. Jamal Adams though, is a 822 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: guy that makes all Ricky tin Okay, I like that. 823 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: I think we we made it all the way through 824 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: all the positions. That was kind of fun little exercise. Yeah, 825 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: you know, they tried to get me to do all 826 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: my Rickie tine. They tried to give me to find 827 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: a kicking and punting. I was like, guys, I can't 828 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: pick who's gonna make a squad. That's dangerous business. Drafted 829 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: outside of Ze Gonzalez. Right, it's done. Oh yeah, there 830 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: you go. By the way, Bucky, I tried to let 831 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: the beard grow and then it just got too Yeah 832 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: what happen your your baby face today? Thing? Man? Drive 833 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: me nuts? Uh all right, look that was fun. We 834 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: talked some quarterbacks. Uh still in college. We've got a 835 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: chance to go through the rookies here who we expect 836 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: to have a big time impact right away. And and 837 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: we did one of the all time me Andy's reads 838 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: that's ever been done. But by the way, we got 839 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: a video, Sully, Why don't you tell the folks about 840 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: the video we did. It'll be up. Yeah, yeah, it's 841 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: one of our favorites for kind of revisiting. It's quarterbacks 842 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: under dirty that that you would take for one play, 843 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: one drive, one game in the next ten seasons. That's 844 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: a that's a really fun one. That will be up 845 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com and YouTube slash NFL next time. 846 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: We gotta find a way to do uh an over 847 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: thirty eight or over thirty nine one to see who 848 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: would take Yeah, yeah, the gray Beard style. We gotta 849 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: figure out which which vet quarterback we want for the 850 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: next decade. And how many guys? Was with Tom Brady 851 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: your Drew? Yeah, he's talked about trying to play this 852 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: fifty years old. That is crazy, that's crazy. Get a 853 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: walker out there. We had been talking for a while. 854 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: I've been lobbying for folks to get us over those 855 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: five mark for the ratings on iTunes. Last I checked, 856 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: we're at five ten. So thank you guys. That theo 857 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: gone and did that nice round of applause with that 858 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: a golf clap or was that a legitimate It was golf, 859 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: golf clad golflap. So I appreciate everybody doing that, UM, 860 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you subscribing and keeping this thing rolling 861 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: here off season, but we're having some fun. We'll keep 862 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: this train rolling on Moving Sticks. Bucky gonna see it. 863 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: We'll be back again next week. Do this all over you, 864 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: and we say, let's do it all right. We'll see 865 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: you next time. Thanks for listening to Move the Sticks, 866 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: d J. Buckey and Sally greatest producer of all time. 867 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Thanks for downloading Move the 868 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go 869 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: to NFL dot com Slash Podcasts