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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer, and I heard radio podcast,

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Speaker 1: Well two of us are here, one of us is

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Speaker 1: not here. Wind Down world wide, worldwide, wide wide white.

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Speaker 1: What uh y'all. I something happened to me and I

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Speaker 1: just remembered it because I had to use the restroom

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Speaker 1: before I came on the podcast. And the other night

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Speaker 1: I was putting the kids to bed and sweet Jason,

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Speaker 1: I'm like in Jolie's room, like making sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: she's brushing her teeth and hair and stuff. And then

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Speaker 1: Jason just goes, Mommy, I pete on the floor and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like I'll be there in a second

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Speaker 1: to clean it up. Well, I'm like, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: into Jason's bathroom. I slip on his piss and I

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Speaker 1: was just like that hurts. It was just like one

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Speaker 1: of those moments where were just like, Wow, this is

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Speaker 1: just amazing thing. So I just remembered because that that

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Speaker 1: just didn't even have the energy to like clean it

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Speaker 1: PP two and I'm like, crap, I gotta be the

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Speaker 1: girl your shirt matches that story. Yeah, my mama life.

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Speaker 1: I was just like I literally just like wiped out

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Speaker 1: such a similar story two years ago, Like we used

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Speaker 1: to have one of those like spray water things, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Emmy was in the tub when she was little,

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Speaker 1: and she put it and it started spraying everyone's mommy, mommy,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm coming. I slipped on all

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Speaker 1: the water. I mean, I had a bruise on my

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Speaker 1: thigh be size like I should hurts. Oh, it's too

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Speaker 1: good mom life right there. But yeah, that was coming

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Speaker 1: back from I went on a beautiful tropical Caribbean vacation

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Speaker 1: with our other part of our queendom, Sarah Bryce. So

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Speaker 1: I really wish and I really wanted Sarah come on

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Speaker 1: this podcast to talk about it because something happened that

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Speaker 1: nobody even knows in this in this chat, No nobody knows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was an earthquake, what gathered. It's just the fact

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Speaker 1: that it's her in Sarah quake, Like, you'll need somebody

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit like not panicky in that moment.

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Speaker 1: But here's the here's the thing is god it And

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Speaker 1: I just wish Sarah was here because us explaining it

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Speaker 1: together would just be so funny and maybe like we

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Speaker 1: can revisit it when she's able to. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have been in earthquakes before, Like I've been in

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Speaker 1: like four points something's in in Los Angeles like a

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Speaker 1: little little shake of the bed, right, y'all. It was

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Speaker 1: a six point two h out of Guadalupe, and in

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Speaker 1: point seven. Now, okay, she kept telling me, you guys

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Speaker 1: were headed to Tijuana, so let's start there. We were

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Speaker 1: in the we were in the Bahamas or Cribbeans, sorry,

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Speaker 1: the Caribbeans. And it was like, I mean, it shook

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Speaker 1: me out of bed. So you'all were asleep asleep have

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Speaker 1: it at seven? Literally shook me out of bed. But

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Speaker 1: the sound of what the earth was like the sound

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, And I'm thinking, first there

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Speaker 1: then I hear like, I guess where I was like

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Speaker 1: and then it shook it again. I'm like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm like now I'm not freaked. And this is

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Speaker 1: and was just like, there's an earthquake. I'm freaking out

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Speaker 1: because I go to there's going to be a tsunami

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Speaker 1: because why are we the same human? Why are we

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Speaker 1: the same? But I mean that's possible. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's totally possible. Back in it killed almost all. You

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Speaker 1: shall should have seen my Google search, Like it was

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Speaker 1: funniest It was such a good lesson for us because

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Speaker 1: we would we we walked around, I mean we asked people,

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't happen because what is the earth? I'm

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Speaker 1: You're going to other people to um to tell you,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, it was a great lesson. Good.

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Speaker 1: So I had a similar situation at three in the morning,

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Speaker 1: non an earthquake, but I woke up worried about pirates.

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Speaker 1: The heck pirates, like for real. The same weekend that

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Speaker 1: Kramer and Bryce were on an island, I went to

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Speaker 1: a different island. You were in Florida, Well, we were

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Speaker 1: you were afraid of pirates. I can't talk. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: we get to the island. It's our first time there.

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Speaker 1: Preston is very used to noise, like he lives on

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Speaker 1: Then at three in the morning, I wake up a

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Speaker 1: And that's what we have never. Preston and I have

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Speaker 1: he wants me to do a dance to his artists song.

426
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, nobody's paying you to dance for fifteen seconds

427
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: to a song on TikTok. Sorry, that's not a thing.

428
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: And Mark's like, well, I know people get paid to

429
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: make content. So I was like, if he wants to

430
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: do anything, he can talk to me, give me give

431
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: him my email. So he makes that real fast. Yeah,

432
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: and so he emailed me right away, and I was like, hey, Mark,

433
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: So so I think her first this is probably before

434
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: she hit a million, but her first one was like

435
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars and she was so excited and she

436
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: got like the number one. It used to have the

437
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: way TikTok used to work is whoever had the most

438
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 1: um views on an audio, their their thing was at

439
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: the top, and so it was at the top, and

440
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: then they asked her to do it again it was

441
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: at the top. And then every audio she would do

442
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: she was at the top. Is crazy. And so you know,

443
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: of course, like managers and agents and people start calling

444
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: and Mark and I are like, nope, nope, nope, Like

445
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: we did not know this business. But Mark's been an

446
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: entrepreneur his whole life and we knew enough. He knew

447
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: enough about business to know we need to get the

448
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: right people in place. So we uh, we did have

449
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: a manager who also lived in Connecticut, and we got

450
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: an attorney and an entertainment attorney and then we just

451
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: said a no to a lot of things. But during

452
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: all this, myke, my girls have proven themselves and that's

453
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: why we have a good trust between us. We've you know,

454
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: they've made mistakes in their life growing up, and they

455
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: knew they could always come to us and they wouldn't

456
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: get punished or whatever. Like we're gonna have a conversation

457
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: about it. Obviously, lessons learned, punishment will come with with that.

458
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: It's you know, before all this, and so I think

459
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: they knew, uh, they could trust us and tell us things,

460
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 1: and we knew they had proven there themselves to us

461
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: as far as we could trust them that they wouldn't

462
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: do anything stupid. They know, anything that goes out there,

463
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be out there forever. And of course they've

464
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: made mistakes, and UM, we've we've always kind of dealt

465
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: with it and um never came down on them, especially

466
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: with all this, because when mistakes they have made now

467
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: becomes now comes on the internet with millions of followers,

468
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: they the internet is just crushing them. So the last

469
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: thing they need are there. It's kind of where I

470
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: was gonna detour is you know, we talk a lot

471
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: about bullies. I mean, I've got a hate page, like

472
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they're just people on social media

473
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: are just brutal and they're so mean and curious how

474
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: you've because I've you know, I've watched the show and

475
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: I saw that one scene or I just felt so

476
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: that Charlie was just crying and then the hate and

477
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: anxiety that she's now has because of the show, you know,

478
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: because of the social media. It's I'm curious, did that

479
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: impact your decision, um, because your show is doing amazing,

480
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: you're filming season three right now, but is there a

481
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: piece where you're like, man, you we've almost let them

482
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: in so much that there's open up to more criticism. Basically, UM,

483
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: my girls have had anxiety before social media, so it's

484
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: not like it started then. But um, I think for

485
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: all of us, UM, the whole point of wanting to

486
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: do the show, uh and it you know, it is

487
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: in the reality realm, but it is a docuseries and

488
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: we wanted to be able to tell our stuy um

489
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: because as you know, people make up things and then

490
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: that becomes the conversation. And we wanted a place to

491
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: show us and show real realness and who we are

492
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: and what we're about, and not let the internet decide

493
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: to make up whatever they want and then people believe that.

494
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: And so um. I also we felt like it was

495
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: a way to put um, to put us in a

496
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: way that this isn't all on Charlie UM by her

497
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: sister doing getting in in this whole thing with her. Um,

498
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: it's not like her by herself and we're you know,

499
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: we can support her all all all we want, but

500
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: when you're in it and you're feeling it in the

501
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: same way. Um, there's that support there that we all

502
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: have for each other and UM and and part of

503
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: the show was too if Charlie doesn't want to work,

504
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: if she wants to, you know, I don't want to

505
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: do anything for six months, like the rest of us

506
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: can pick up the slack for her, and the thing

507
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: goes for Dixie and and Mark and I. You know,

508
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: so there's enough of us that we can sort of

509
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: balance it out. Like you know, Charlie's just not feeling

510
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: good today, like she's not gonna film, and you know,

511
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: she says three other people to pick up the slack

512
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: or and the same with Dixie. So yes, it put

513
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: us out there in uh a way besides social media,

514
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: but we felt like it was more important. We're all

515
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: executive producers, so we get a lot of say and

516
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: and what's covered and what's not. And in that moment

517
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: where Dixie was crying in season one, UM, Mark and

518
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: I were filming and she just happened to walk in.

519
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: We didn't even know she was coming because she didn't

520
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: live with us and UM and so we were we

521
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: went into the bedroom and and she was like, I

522
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: want to film this I want people to see how

523
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: damaging what they say can be. And so we're like,

524
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: are you sure? Are you sure? Because you know, as

525
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: a mom like and and Mark and I both were like, no,

526
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: we can't. You're not gonna film our daughter like breaking

527
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: down in such a raw moment. Let's h you know,

528
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: we want to protect that. And for her, even in

529
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that moment, she was like, no, I want to show it.

530
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite moments honestly from the

531
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: show was because it was so authentic and so real

532
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: and so like, look what your words due to other people,

533
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Like before you pick up your phone and say something

534
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: nasty because of your own insecurities, how that can affect

535
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: other people, you know. And I think people don't realize

536
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: then just think, oh, they're never going to see that.

537
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: We hear a lot of that, Yeah, they see a lot.

538
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: I think it's so important because like I have eleven

539
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: year old daughter who obviously knows your daughters from TikTok,

540
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: but I think it's really important for them to see that,

541
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: to see like just in school every day they have

542
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: kids that say mean things, you know, and they have

543
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: these you know, these reactions and these emotions to it.

544
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: But to see someone like Charlie who or you know

545
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: that they're getting upset about it too. It just really

546
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: makes them more real and relatable. And I just think

547
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: that it's really important, as much as it may be

548
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: hard for you guys at times, it's really important to

549
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: show that side. Yeah, And they know and they realized

550
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: that they know how important it is because there were

551
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: middle schoolers once and would hear you know, every all

552
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: these kids they say, you know, have felt it at

553
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: one time or another. And so sometimes I think especially

554
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: they see someone in the spotlight that seems like they

555
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: have this perfect situation and no, like nobody's exempt from this,

556
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: like it hurts no matter what. So they really wanted

557
00:29:44,440 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: to share that idea of you ever, like this major

558
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Mama Bear moment where you're like, I'm done, we're quitting,

559
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: and I'm packing this all up because I just can't

560
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: imagine as a mom letting anyone say anything about I mean,

561
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: it's in us, like it's it's in who we are

562
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: when we become moms to just protect, protect, protect, And

563
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: then they're there in like they are in the jungle

564
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: of social media with millions of followers. I mean, I

565
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: only know what millions of followers can feel like because

566
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Janna, you know, and watch just how

567
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: ruthless people get, and like, I also advise her not

568
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: to answer any d M. But I I really, like,

569
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: I can't like I even get protective of her and

570
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: she's just you know, she's my friend. But like, has

571
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: there been a time where you're like, this is it

572
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: and I'm done? And how does that look? And who's

573
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: calling each other back to the table and be like,

574
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: we're not done with this? We can do this because

575
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: it is a gauntlet out there. It's a lot, it's

576
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: a gauntlet. Um, So I think what the way our

577
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: family has handled it is we we do these check

578
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: ins and you know we've done this since the beginning.

579
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to do this? I mean,

580
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: there's we we can wind this down to use your

581
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: name of your podcast, but we can find this down

582
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: and we could read it in and you know, do

583
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: things differently, like you don't don't ever feel like you're

584
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: stuck here if you like, this isn't what I thought.

585
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: And we've we've had these conversations from the very beginning.

586
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: And as much as sometimes things are hurtful, they uh

587
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: see the value in their platform and they and they

588
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: do enjoy what they do, and they're getting to do

589
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: passion projects at this point and like work with amazing

590
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: people and brands and um they're very competitive and they're

591
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: very Yeah they're young girls, but when they're in meetings

592
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: with CEO s, I'm like, whoa, I couldn't even do

593
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: that today, like as much less at eighteen and twenty

594
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: one years old. And they love that. They love the

595
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: business side of it. Um. You know, they grew up

596
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, watching Mark what he does and his entrepreneurial

597
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: things that he's done and grown his business. So they

598
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: that's so a part of them. Um. So they always say,

599
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to stop doing this. And but where

600
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Mark and I come in is okay, how can we

601
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: structure things so you have breaks? You yeah, boundaries, what's okay?

602
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: You know that? And we're still learning and you can

603
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: see that in our show, like we try to do

604
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: things that make you know, we we just put systems

605
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: in place, like the most recent one, well, I guess

606
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: this was last year. Wow was a year ago. But

607
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: we when we're away, like we went away for Charlie's

608
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: eighteenth birthday. It was great it was a vacation. It

609
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: was fun. She had all her friends, we had we

610
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: had friends and family there and we get back home. Now, yes,

611
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: it was a vacation. It was a blast, but you know,

612
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: it's you know how it is. It's um pictures and

613
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, can you make a video for my friend

614
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: or this or that. It's still like that is she

615
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, the girls consider part of work and and

616
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: so you know, are always you know, making sure they're

617
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: not you know, whatever if they're seen eating or whatever,

618
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: and then there's videos and then they get made fun

619
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: of for that. So they're always on edge. And so

620
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 1: that's not like a true vacation. So when we come

621
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: back from a vacation, although it's a lot of fun

622
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: and all that, we give him a couple of days off,

623
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: like no work, you know, get back decompressed, like veg out,

624
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: do absolutely nothing and then and those little things are

625
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: so helpful. So when they come back and there's things

626
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: to do and things on the calendar and they're like, okay,

627
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I had my time, and like I'm ready to get

628
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: back into it. So we're always trying to figure out

629
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: better ways to do that, and they are getting really

630
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: really good, not just not just in business, but just

631
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: as humans of boundaries and like, you know what, I'm

632
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: not gonna do that because that doesn't make me feel good.

633
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: And but they've kind of always done that, but really,

634
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: um being vocal a lot of times, like yesterday, Charlie

635
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: was sick and we're shooting our Hlue show here at

636
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: the office, and um, she she called Mark and I

637
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: and she sounded terrible and she was like, I'm just

638
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: really not feeling good. But I looked at the calendar.

639
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: I could switch things the next day, blah blah blah.

640
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: And so we're like okay, And then we talked with

641
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: the show runner and she was like, all good, because yeah,

642
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: we can catch up tomorrow, no big deal. And then

643
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: her day to day managers like, UM, I'm gonna go

644
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: pick up Charlie to come in there, and I was like, oh, yeah,

645
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: she's not coming in, Like sometimes their instinct is to

646
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: call us first, and just as mom and dad like okay, yeah,

647
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: we'll take care of it. And didn't realize, like your

648
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: day to day manager is there to do that for you,

649
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: like talk to the show, like do all the things,

650
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: and so her and so her day to day manager

651
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: is fairly new, and so she's like, I'm so sorry,

652
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know, Like, no, that's the nature you

653
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: plan as an eighteen year old. So he still come

654
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: to mom and dad for things, and you know, we

655
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: just kind of adjust as we go. So I'm not

656
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna tell Charlie you have to call your day to

657
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: day manager. I'm not gonna like, I would never do that.

658
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: And we're all very close and we all have to

659
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: work together because we're just always together, and um, and

660
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I you know, that was a conversation I never had

661
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: to have with her manager. I was like, hey, um,

662
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: this is going to happen, and this is going to

663
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: continue to happen, so don't feel like you didn't do

664
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: your job. Like we're all here to work together for

665
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: the girls, with the girls as a team. So but

666
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: always adjusting for sure, since this is a you know,

667
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about relationships. You and Mark have

668
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: been married for how many years? Again? Twenty two years?

669
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: Twenty two years, So in those twenty two years and

670
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: even today, like what where do you think, like what

671
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: have you guys done really good at as a married

672
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: couple And we're like we're in your relationship, do you

673
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: still have moments of struggle. So I think, Um, I

674
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: think we both uh didn't settle before meeting each other.

675
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: We're both in long term relationships prior to meeting, and

676
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: that could have Yeah, I guess we probably could have

677
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: got married, but probably wouldn't have been great. It would

678
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: have been fine. Um, and neither one of us settled,

679
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: so that was one thing. And then we met and

680
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: we both knew right away, like neither one of us

681
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: were looking for a relationship. We've both just moved into

682
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: New York City and if they had like hot girls summer,

683
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: that would have been mine. And we met and I

684
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I had never met anyone like him,

685
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: So I think we have a good foundation. And when like,

686
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: we just knew when we met, so that was super helpful.

687
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: But um, we really really really enjoy hanging out together. Um.

688
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: I think he's the funniest person. He thinks I'm slightly funny,

689
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: but like also just not quite as funny as he is.

690
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: But um, he's really funny, and we just have a

691
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of fun together. And UM, I think probably the

692
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: best thing we've done was, um, we we're just very

693
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: respectful of each other. I I remember going on like

694
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: mom's nights to dinner whatever, and the mom's really bashing

695
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: their husbands of like, oh he does this and that,

696
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: and I was just like I and then kind of

697
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: look at me, and I'm like, I don't like have

698
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: anything to say. I mean, he's not perfect, I'm not perfect,

699
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: but I would also not publicly bash him, Like I

700
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: just thought that was awful and like if any of

701
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: their husbands they knew that the husbands were doing that

702
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: to them, they would be so hurt by it. And

703
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: so I we never talked bad about each other to anyone,

704
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: and um and and I think that was really impor

705
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: important because I's so hurtful and I would I would

706
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: like it would just it was hard to hear that.

707
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: I didn't like hearing that. Um yeah, does Mark leave

708
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: every cabinet in the kitchen opened when he goes in there? Yes?

709
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: I find I find it funny at this point because

710
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: it's it's so much that it has to be intentional,

711
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: like there's no way, but um, so I don't know,

712
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Like I think, just being very respectful of each other

713
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: when the other one isn't around, I think is super

714
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: That says a lot about a person, Like when everyone

715
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: else around you is bashing their spouse and you're like,

716
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, Like, I don't. I

717
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: never want you know, we were not perfect, but I

718
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: would never want other people to have an opinion on

719
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: him because I'm mad at him because he did whatever. Sure,

720
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: That's why I always tell my boyfriend. I always say, like,

721
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: I would love to be in a relationship where, uh,

722
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: I know that when I'm not around, they're still respecting

723
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: me like I'm around. Yeah. Yeah, So that I think

724
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: that's been very special and we're very confident in that

725
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: we both feel that way. And then um, probably the

726
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: negative would be negative, just something that like if we

727
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: can struggle, like something that to better, kind of common

728
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: thread that keeps coming back. I think I give it

729
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: up that battle. I'm like, you know what, I'll just

730
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: close it. Um, I think one thing and recently, um,

731
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: we've gotten so much better at it is over the years.

732
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: Like he what happened was he I happily wanted to

733
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: stay home with the girls. My mom stayed home with

734
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: I have three older sisters stayed home with us, and

735
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: I loved that and I wanted that for our family.

736
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: And Mark was totally like, whatever you want to do.

737
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm down for that. So he always worked and I

738
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: was home. And I think one thing was we got

739
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: into these rules, and you know, even though he's the

740
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: you know, red winner and all of that, like there's

741
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: times where he could have used my help and I

742
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's not like you're doing your thing

743
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: and I'm doing mine as far as like what we

744
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: bring to the table in our family. And then there's

745
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: times where maybe I needed a hand and he was like,

746
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: we wouldn't say that, it's all. It was almost like

747
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: became this unwritten rule, like well, I'm not gonna ask

748
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: him to do that. That's like my thing because this

749
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. He's like been at work all

750
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: day whatever. And I think now looking back on it,

751
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't the best thing, Like, I uh that, you know,

752
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: I think there were times I could have helped him.

753
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: And I think the key is when the other when

754
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: one person is struggling, um is to you gotta step

755
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: up your game because you're gonna struggle at one point

756
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: and they're gonna You're gonna want them to step up there.

757
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: So that's something we recently really got in the thick

758
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: of what we were feeling about that and really mended

759
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: that because now we're both working and we all work

760
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: together as a family, and so I can't believe how

761
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: much joy I am getting out of and he says

762
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: the same thing, out of doing little things that make

763
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: his day easier, and when he does it for me,

764
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: it just feels so good and just knowing like somebody's

765
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: got your back, even in things like like he goes

766
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: above and beyond, and I was like, wow, that was

767
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: so like thoughtful and just being thought of. I know

768
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: I've been thoughtful with my friendships, are my family, are

769
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: my kids, And sometimes Mark was the last one on

770
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: the list and the end that went both ways. We

771
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: still had a good time. We always I mean we've

772
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: had a long run of like a really good time

773
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: in our marriage. Of course there's been moments, but I

774
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: think we forgot about that, like how being thoughtful and

775
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: just really stepping in when they need it because to

776
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: get that back, And that's not why we do it,

777
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: like oh I'm gonna do this because you'll do that.

778
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: It's just like you want to do it more like

779
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm more of like I want to one up him.

780
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: I want to do more for him than he's gonna

781
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: do for me, and like, who doesn't want that? And

782
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: it just feels so good. And so although we haven't

783
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: been great at that, now it's like we're there and

784
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: it just feels really good. I think I think it's

785
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: very easy to get in that. Well he didn't do

786
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: that for me, and I didn't I'm not doing that,

787
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, and getting that sort of tip for tat

788
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: and and we've been there and so we don't want

789
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: to we don't want to go there again. And so

790
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: that was something that always kind of like crept up

791
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: in our marriage. It wasn't like a major thing, but

792
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: we would talk about it and then we'd like do

793
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: a little bit and then it kind of fall off.

794
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm like with the kids and he's going into New

795
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: York City and working and so now it's a priority

796
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: and and it just feels really good. I love that. Well,

797
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that with us, and and um,

798
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: you're currently filming season three right now for Hulu, so

799
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch that. And just thank you for

800
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: bringing on you know, coming on the show and chatting

801
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: with us. Thanks for having me. I we love I

802
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: have three older sisters, so I miss having like girls

803
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: around there's a lot of women in my family in general,

804
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: on my mom, my mom, and dad's side, and so

805
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: I love having other women to hang with. We'll come

806
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: to Nashville and hang out with us because he's going

807
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: uh soon, Okay at the beginning of February, and I

808
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: was like, I love Nashville. My niece used to live there,

809
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: and so I was like, hey, listen, if you need

810
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: us to come out there, she was like, okay, if

811
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: you want to. I'm like, I'm like, I don't need

812
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: to hang out with you. I just want to go.

813
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: I'll slide into your d M S and we'll do

814
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: We'll make sure we do a little a little hang session.

815
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: But thank you seriously so much. Appreciate you. Thank you

816
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. By bye. Okay, Well,

817
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 1: she's so sweet. And I have to tell you guys

818
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: something that happened at therapy because it's about letting in

819
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: the negative, all the voices and the noise. Because I

820
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: did E M d R with Amy the other day

821
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was like wild. So did E M

822
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: d R with her just to talk about the noise,

823
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, because things we talked about and uh with Alan,

824
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: my boyfriend. She did this to us, Kaby, and it's

825
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: just like, sorry, do we just talk about have you

826
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: been planning this or did this just happen? Lamer. I

827
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: got a message this weekend and I went, I screenshotted

828
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: it to send it to you, and then I was like,

829
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. It was so sweet, but she

830
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: was like it's someone over there and she was like,

831
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: the Brits are dying. I just the other day He's like,

832
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: he's like, Babe, I can only do a Scottish accent

833
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: when when I'm talking to him. He's like, I gotta

834
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: get lovely, have a lovely babe, you know as that

835
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: was that was. He's like, um, he's like you can

836
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: say my name. That's terrible. I'm doing awful and he's

837
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna like yeah. He's like he's like, baby, you can

838
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: say my name and I'm like okay. So Alan and

839
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: I were talking, but I was just you know, with

840
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: about people and the pages and all that stuff, and

841
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: so I went to Amy and I said, hey, I

842
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: really want to do an E M D R around

843
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: all this and just and I figured out where it

844
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: pinpointed too, and so that was really really, really really

845
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: good but she said something during that and she goes,

846
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: what you're basically doing is there's a massive, massive gas

847
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: leak outside, and you were allowing the window to open,

848
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: like you're you are physically opening the window and letting

849
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: the gas come in, like you are in charge of

850
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: letting that gas come in. You're opening it. I'm literally

851
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: lifting it up and open. I'm doing it to myself. Yeah,

852
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm emotional about this. Talk to me. I think I

853
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: let the window open. Yeah. See, we're doing it. And

854
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: Chris and I have this in therapy. I owe you

855
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: a cope because I'm in tears. But I started crying.

856
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: And so we're at the very end of e m

857
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: d R and I look up and I go and

858
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm in tears, and she, you know, she stops at

859
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: the m DR. I think she go, what I go, Amy,

860
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm the one opening the window. Yeah right, well, we

861
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: we're the only ones that can be in charge of

862
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: that for ourselves. But it didn't for some reason equate

863
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: to me at all that I'm like that I was

864
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: doing it. We have the control to I cannot not

865
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: go online like me going online and logging into these

866
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: hate places. I'm opening the window by doing that, I'm

867
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: I am using my fingers and going on the website.

868
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: And also but here's the other piece of that too,

869
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: christ And I think that I still deserve or that

870
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: I am what these messages are because of a certain

871
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: someone that was so toxic and said awful words to

872
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: me that it's almost like a safe place when I

873
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: read it. That's the twisted piece in it. It's like

874
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: you feel safe and in a weird twisted way that

875
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and it feels like the truth because

876
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: that's what he would say to me, these nasty, negative things,

877
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: and so I believe it, and so I almost feel

878
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: comforted in this awful place because that's what I was

879
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: used to for seven eight years. Right, it makes sense.

880
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of people opening my window. You control the winds,

881
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: I know. And I feel like like even when I

882
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: get d M s on Instagram, so I'm not I'm not.

883
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm new too, the amount of like opinions because I've

884
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: never had this before, Like I've had my own little podcast.

885
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: It's just a little pot cast that could I call

886
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: it for three years and it's just sweet and little.

887
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: And then your exposure so big that I'm always afraid that,

888
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Like so, I I don't have notifications turned not on Instagram.

889
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: I turned that off probably almost a year ago, just

890
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: because I needed less noise. And I'm real susceptible to that.

891
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: But now I'm afraid when they send something it's not kind.

892
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm like afraid someone's going to open the window for me,

893
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, one must keep this. Well, well

894
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and so this is something to write.

895
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: The pirates are coming. But like when I see those messages,

896
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: I now know I can look at and go, I

897
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: know my truth. They don't. They want to think they

898
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: know me and who I am and my truth and

899
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: my situation and my love life and this that and

900
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: the other. They don't know. So and my core message

901
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: is that I'm the problem. I'm not the problem, and

902
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: just knowing that those messages aren't going to hold as

903
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: much weight because it's just noise that is not true.

904
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: None of it's true. Like Creamer, I wish so often

905
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not just saying this. I just

906
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: wish people could have like a day with you sometimes,

907
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: but I mean it. It's like they just it's it's

908
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see what people think they know about everybody.

909
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: But it's like even knowing you I and even knowing

910
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: my husband the way I do, Like, I just really

911
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: it changes the way I view every celebrity because it's

912
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: not fair the amount of opinions. And and what I

913
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: think is important is that for you, you've done this

914
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: really big work of letting people in the really darkty

915
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: places of your life, so then they just feel entitled

916
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: to like make a home there And I'm like, oh, no,

917
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: we don't live there anymore. She showed you that. But

918
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: we're doing this. She's doing work, she's moving this, she's

919
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: finding a healthy relationship with herself and with her friends

920
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: and with you know, significant others like Alan, and I

921
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: just like to say his name. I'm really pumped about it.

922
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: We went from B word to a word. But like

923
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: I just wish, I wish people didn't feel so miserable

924
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: with themselves that they that they like to leave people

925
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: miserable where they've let them in. Yeah, but the sad

926
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: part is is that's not reality and it's not going

927
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: to happen. So it's how you And like I was

928
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: thinking about this when Heidi was talking about it, Well,

929
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it when Heidi was talking about

930
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: it earlier because I was like, man, would it be

931
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: so great for you to have an outlet, which you

932
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: do have it here, but to be able to explain yourself,

933
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: to be able to tell your true And I'm like,

934
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: you know what, They're still going to say it, They're

935
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: still going to do it, and I'm glad her girls

936
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: have that. But that's where you have to They don't

937
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: know the story and you have to be okay with

938
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: not being able to tell your side of the story.

939
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: And that's hard. I mean, that's the thing, and that's

940
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: all that matters. And I mean I do that in

941
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: little parts of my life, so I can't even imagine,

942
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, on that big of a scale, but like

943
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: that's the reality. Whether you get to tell your side

944
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: of the story, whether they care, whether they don't, like,

945
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be negative. There's going to be negative

946
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: out there. And all you can do is, like you said,

947
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: close the window, don't let the gas in. Yeah, that's good,

948
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: Like the window don't open it. H I'm proud of

949
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: you because you need to close the freaking window. It's close, girlfriends,

950
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: And its whole thing is yeah, yeah, she know how

951
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: she does? Like really, I feel like there was times

952
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: in your life when I was actually in your home

953
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: with all the windows open, putting gas nets on. You

954
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: sure down, and I'm like, no, this feels comfortable. This

955
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: is what normal feels to me. This is what it

956
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: this is. This feels cozy. Trauma feels cozy. No, you're

957
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: in a different way, I know. And I had it

958
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: still creeping in. But no, mo, no mo. I'm so

959
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: proud of you. Hey, guys, guess he's coming to town

960
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: this week? To Allen and so said, he's coming in

961
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: for twenty two hours. Twenty two to be exact, and

962
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: talk about it for just a second. You can't wait, Okay,

963
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: So I want to say about Alan a couple of

964
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: things that I really like about because I'm glad that

965
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: we can say his name now. So I was like,

966
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: I don't like that he's coming for twenty four hours.

967
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: It's like he's going to be tired. It's a waste

968
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: because he has a busy job. And like I was like,

969
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: it just feels like like it just feels like too

970
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: much for one person. And Kreamer was like, I know,

971
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel the same, and Alan said, while we were

972
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: all on FaceTime with him, he said, I just have

973
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: to do this because I need to show you. This

974
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: isn't just you coming over to me, it's me coming

975
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: to you. And even for twenty two jet ladds sweet

976
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: little Scottish accent hours, he's gonna do it. He's gonna

977
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: get to you, and who cares if he if he,

978
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: I guess, I'm like, hey, I'm gonna see you in

979
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: like five, five or six days later, like it. And

980
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: that's when he was like, no, it's like you've made

981
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: the commitment to come, and he's like, and he hasn't

982
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: seen my world. So I'm excited to show my twenty

983
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: three hours or whatever of my world. And she's going

984
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: to meet him. You won't be able to meet my

985
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: personal excite. Sorry for like five minutes course. Okay, all right,

986
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: have fun. I love you guys. That window shot, y'all?

987
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: All right, I love you. Bye o