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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: February sixth. It's Super Bowl week. I'm so fired up

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Speaker 2: for the game, getting more and more excited every time

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Speaker 2: I look at it. And Rob g has now descended

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Speaker 2: upon Vegas. He is in Sin City. He's He's in

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Speaker 2: the city where they made a movie about which is

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Speaker 2: now his favorite movie, Last Vegas. I'm sure Rob is

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Speaker 2: gonna be living it up right week doing his doing

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Speaker 2: stuff from Radio Row with the Odd Couple. Rob. If

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Speaker 2: you run into Cam Newton, tell his people, I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: I could not meet with him on Radio Row. He

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Speaker 2: did send a request. He sent word that he would

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Speaker 2: like to chat with me on Radio Row for ten

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Speaker 2: or fifteen minutes on whatever platform he's and I said, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be there. It's not a Fox super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: YadA YadA, yadda. I don't know, Rob. If you do

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Speaker 2: see Cam though, it definitely be like Yo, Cam, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you gotta come correct when you go to j Mac Okay.

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Speaker 1: If I see Look, I'm not the one who was

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Speaker 1: missing you, but I know the guy who did it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you know, he is a giant human being.

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Speaker 2: He has a large individual six five, two thirty five.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I mean, he's considerably bigger than Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 2: Six five is like Justin Herbert. And then you add,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, fifteen pounds. He's just big. And maybe

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Speaker 2: he's gained some weight since he's not playing in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but he is a large dude. Rob

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Speaker 2: real quick before we get into the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: complaining about the practice field as Buddy boy freaks out

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Speaker 2: over here or all in the Niners. We're all in

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Speaker 2: on the Niners. Rob. One of the things that I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the games, it's super fascinating to kind of

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Speaker 2: break down, you know, what's the deal. The forty nine

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Speaker 2: Ers were absolutely terrible in the playoffs stats wise, after

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Speaker 2: doing incredible in the regular season. And the opposite is

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Speaker 2: true for the Chiefs, Right, the Chiefs kind of slept

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Speaker 2: walk through the regular season and then in the postseason

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Speaker 2: they've been lights out. And which one of those do

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Speaker 2: you trust more to show up in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: The seventeen games of Niners who were largely great or

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Speaker 2: or the two games of the Niners, which was not great.

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Speaker 2: Or do you do the seventeen games of the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: which were up and down, they had some really good showings,

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Speaker 2: or the three games that were pretty damn good. Rob

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Speaker 2: It's a tough one. I know my answer, but I'm

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Speaker 2: curious where you land on this.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It's something that I've been talking

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Speaker 1: about on this podcast with you basically all season, and

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Speaker 1: that is the Kansas City Chiefs have a baseline that

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Speaker 1: few teams in the NFL exhibited all season, even when

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Speaker 1: they were struggling, when they were scuffling, when they lost

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Speaker 1: of My Raiders, which you know was a cataclysmic event

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Speaker 1: I believe Aidan O'Connell did not complete a pass after

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Speaker 1: But the thing about the Chiefs is because of their

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Speaker 1: style of play, they've gotten away from the explosive Patrick

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Speaker 1: of a conservative, defensive minded team. They play great defense,

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Speaker 1: I still believe this their ceiling was not as high

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Speaker 1: Reid is a great coach, and because Patrick Mahome might

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Speaker 1: be the greatest quarterback we've ever seen, is their floor

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Speaker 1: And that's something that we've seen in this postseason because

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Speaker 1: They were mistake free, but I don't think that they

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Speaker 1: they're the ones here in Vegas right now in the

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Speaker 1: when they faced off, Sorry quickly, when they faced off

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Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship against Baltimore, Kansas City didn't do

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Speaker 1: to trust the team with the lower floor than I

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Speaker 1: am the team with the highest ceiling.

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Speaker 2: I think that is an impressive argument, and yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people will be with you. Well, Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: come on, It's been amazing and Patrick Mahomes goes postal

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Here's the argument against. We haven't seen

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Speaker 2: looked this up rop So in the opener against the Packers,

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Speaker 2: the fourth. They need to come back. Their game state

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Speaker 2: not play particularly well. Right, did not have a great

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Speaker 2: leading for the first three quarters. Perdy wasn't particularly sharp,

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Speaker 2: I think the opening drive. I believe not as certain

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Speaker 2: that the forty nine Ers had the most success scoring

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Speaker 2: points scored. It's just a machine. Yet in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: they for some reason fell behind. I'm not putting a

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Speaker 2: ton of stock ever, I never do in the coin toss,

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Speaker 2: but rob this postseason unlike any other. When the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers fell behind against the Packers and the Lions,

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Speaker 2: all the success of Pachecko dominating the ground and I

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Speaker 2: found some stats interesting. So Pachecko's carries in the regular

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is not making any mistakes, no turnovers. Look at

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Speaker 2: that happening. We have set, we have an entire season

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Speaker 2: the question is, well, what happened in those two games

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs? And my buddy Nick, we're doing a

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Speaker 2: like a squares thing. Do you have you ever done

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Speaker 2: a squares thing for this Super Bowl? Square?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm my name one later this Sunday, so yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm in one.

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Speaker 2: So here's my question. You know, what are the best

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Speaker 2: numbers for Super Bowl scores? I've played this a lot

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Speaker 2: of times. I don't even know the rules. I'm just

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Speaker 2: the kind of guy. Hey, here's my twenty bucks, fifty bucks,

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Speaker 2: hundred bucks, whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's not any different than gambling. So you want seven, three,

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Speaker 1: and zero, those are usually the numbers you want.

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Speaker 2: And so if the numbers add up to seven, three,

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Speaker 2: or zero at the end of a quarter, you then

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Speaker 2: take a person that into the pot, right.

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Speaker 1: No you what you What happens is the last number

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Speaker 1: of the team's score has to be a seven, three

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Speaker 1: the end of the quarter.

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Speaker 2: You win.

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Speaker 1: If the score is ten and nothing, if it's three

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Speaker 1: to nothing, seven and nothing, seventeen, ten, thirteen, ten, you

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Speaker 1: know any of those numbers, those are the ones you want.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So my buddy said, hey, I'm in one

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Speaker 2: of squares one thousand bucks. We can divide it or

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Speaker 2: do it three ways. I was like, yeah, sure, I'm

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Speaker 2: in fine, And I'm looking at this and I think

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Speaker 2: we're in line for a low scoring game. And I

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Speaker 2: know the total was forty seven and a half, but

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm thinking like you. Obviously, the three and

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Speaker 2: the zero are key. But we have the Niners who

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Speaker 2: were awesome off the script, and the defense wasn't great

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Speaker 2: dominant off the script but overall not great all season.

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Speaker 2: Rob super Bowl, nobody's gonna want to make a mistake earlier.

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Speaker 2: I can completely see this being a three to nothing

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Speaker 2: super I'm talking ultra low scoring because party ain't gona

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Speaker 2: if you look at the rushing attack the Packers and

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Speaker 2: And the Packers had a lot of success and the

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Speaker 2: zone running attack. A lot of their stuff is Pacheco inside.

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Speaker 2: They're an inside running team. Hey, we're just gonna beat

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Speaker 2: you up with the line of scrimmage and it's pacheco

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Speaker 2: be a zone running team. I don't. I don't see

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Speaker 2: that happening. I can see some gadget stuff, but now

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Speaker 2: Rob it's sounding like no Kadarius Tony and the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Are you seeing the same stuff? I am, Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So who's their guy? Is it she Rice? On this sweep?

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Speaker 2: I mean they don't have a Jamison Williams. Remember Jamis

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Speaker 2: and Williams took that end around reverse and went to

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Speaker 1: Maybe, well, the problem with me, Cole Hartman is the

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Speaker 1: so I don't know if you would trust him.

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Speaker 2: It's basically Rashi Rice. It ain't gonna be the kid,

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Speaker 2: It's sky Moore, it's not gonna be him, and it's

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Speaker 2: see it. So now you're looking at more of a

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Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton and the ro Quan Samis should should contain Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: They had no chance against Kelsey. I mean Kelsey dominated them. Well.

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Speaker 2: Challenges on you, Fred Warner, challenges on you, Dred Greenlaw.

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Speaker 1: Don't you ever say I'm not all in on brock party. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Rob I quickly want to get into some is. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, here's my thing. So normally wouldn't they use the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess just to keep the teams apart

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Speaker 1: Well, I also don't think that they were planning on

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, there's a bummer for the niners. I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this Eric B Enemy news that? And

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Speaker 2: still some offensive coordinator spots open. But Rob, this is

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Speaker 2: But here's what I was missing. What if you don't

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Speaker 2: going nowhere fast in casey, I guess. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's terrible because you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: don't think that's indicative of how good of a coach

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Speaker 1: Eric Bannemy is. I think what we saw in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City this season, where they were inexplicably having a turnovers,

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Speaker 1: having drop passes, having penalties, losing games they shouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned earlier against my Raiders. Those are the

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Speaker 1: kind of things that I don't think happened if Eric

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Speaker 1: beenemy is the offensive corner, because even if he's not

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Speaker 1: calling the players like Andy Reid, is the one thing

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Speaker 1: that everybody who has ever interacted with Eric Banemy, whether

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Speaker 1: it's in Kansas City or anywhere else in his football career,

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Speaker 1: they say he's a bit of a hard ass. He

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Speaker 1: will get down on you all the time. It comes

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Speaker 1: from a place of love, but he's a very intense, aggressive,

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Speaker 1: demands perfection type coach. As soon as he leaves, coincidentally,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs start becoming sloppy and leading the league in drops.

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Speaker 1: I don't think if the enemy is there, that happens.

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Speaker 1: So if you're basing your opinion on him on what

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Speaker 1: happened in with the Commanders, with Sam Howell, who I think,

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Speaker 1: even on the high end of the spectrum, was never

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Speaker 1: gonna be an even top half of the NFL NFL starter,

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Speaker 1: I think if you were to get his high end,

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Speaker 1: he'd probably be somewhere in the twenty to thirty Rangers.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad, but he's nothing special. So for this

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Speaker 1: to go down the way that it has for him,

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Speaker 1: it's very, very disappointing because three years ago you mentioned

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Speaker 1: this he was the new hotness for NFL head coaching gigs.

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Speaker 1: I think he interviewed thirteen different times, and now to

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Speaker 1: your point, he might not even be able to get

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Speaker 1: a play calling gig and that's disappointing. I would have

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Speaker 1: acted him with the Raiders, but they decided to go

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Speaker 1: with Luke Getsy, who obviously knows great offense with the

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Speaker 1: Bears ha ha and you know, hopefully be enemy lands

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Speaker 1: on his feet.

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Speaker 2: We could wrap up with this since you mentioned Getsy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so Getsy. Since after Kingsbury backs out of the Raiders

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Speaker 2: and lands with Washington, Luke Getsy goes from Chicago to

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Speaker 2: the Raiders. Interesting, Well, Rob, this is your Raiders, so

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Speaker 2: you've got the domain expertise. Currently their quarterbacks are Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Garoppolo and Aidan O'Connell. I'm assuming that Jimmy Garoppolo is

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Speaker 2: not gonna be there next year, safe to say yes,

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Speaker 2: absolutely okay, And safe to say aid and O'Connell. Despite

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Speaker 2: the preseason hype and a couple of decent moments in

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Speaker 2: the first half of the season, he ain't the guy.

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Speaker 2: Safe to say yes okay, Luke Getzy knows justin Fields

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Speaker 2: as well as anyone in the NFL. He was his

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Speaker 2: OC this year when Fields had some moments, more moments

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Speaker 2: than Aid O'Connell. What will it tell you if the

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Speaker 2: Raiders go for fields or don't go for fields? What

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Speaker 2: will that say to you about fields? Because I have

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Speaker 2: a feeling they're gonna go for.

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Speaker 1: I had that same feeling up until about twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours ago when I was reading some Raiders beat writers

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Speaker 1: information about the gets he Higer, because I was down

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Speaker 1: there as soon as they made it. So I was

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Speaker 1: looking for for information that might try to sway my opinion. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, these riders do more reach, they talk to

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Speaker 1: more people than even I do, and so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that they're going to have some kind of stats, some

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Speaker 1: kind of DVOA, something that's gonna make me say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he might not be a good passing offense,

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Speaker 1: but the rushing offense, third downs, blah blah blah whatever.

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Speaker 2: Something.

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Speaker 1: I would look for anything positive about the higher and

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Speaker 1: one of the riders I forget who it was, but

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Speaker 1: he was from the Athletic said that, you know, everyone

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Speaker 1: was concerned about the They had a good rushing offense

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Speaker 1: in Chicago a lot of that because Justin Fields was scrambling,

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Speaker 1: but they had one of the worst passing offenses in

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Speaker 1: the last few years, and the writer indicated that the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: along with several people around the NFL, believed that the Bears'

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Speaker 1: passing offense struggles were not on Getzee, which means that

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, along with a lot of other people around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, believe that the Bears could not throw the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field because Justin Fields was not capable

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Speaker 1: of throwing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, like, listen, if you are Getsy and you

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Speaker 2: do not say let's go get Justin Fields, that's kind

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Speaker 2: of a bat signal to Atlanta and Pittsburgh and whoever

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Speaker 2: else might Seattle might be interested in. It's like bro

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Speaker 2: his oc from last year doesn't even want them. Whoa

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Speaker 2: that will not be good for Fields. And then he

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Speaker 2: goes into the situation where like, Okay, maybe he lands

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Speaker 2: as the backup to Jalen Hurts, maybe he lands is

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Speaker 2: the backup to I'm just Patrick Mahomes. Whatever. It feels

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Speaker 2: like he has the option to be a backup, which

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Speaker 2: may not be the worst thing in the world. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if him being a backup after two

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Speaker 2: plus years of starting is going to help him process

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Speaker 2: and listen, it might not be the worst thing in

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Speaker 2: the world. If he becomes Jameis Winston and he collects

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Speaker 2: checks as a backup, and you play a little bit

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Speaker 2: and you've got a lengthy career and you make a

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Speaker 2: lot of money. Maybe he's just a backup, right, It's not.

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Speaker 1: The end of the world, right, No, absolutely, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And then there's plenty of people, maybe not in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I got to really do my homework by the NFL quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: but there's plenty of people where all they really needed

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Speaker 1: was a chan scenery, a chance to breathe, especially when

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Speaker 1: you're in a situation like Chicago, where now I've been

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Speaker 1: from afar with all this, I never thought they put

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Speaker 1: him in a position to succeed watching them play. I've

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Speaker 1: watched a lot of quarterback video breakdowns by you know,

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Speaker 1: guys like j. C. O. Sullivan front of the show,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Sloter's been on the show, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen them say, like, no, he's doing good things at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There's just something off with that offense and that sometimeys

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Speaker 1: is the receiver, sometimes it's the protection, sometimes it's the

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Speaker 1: way that the play is drawn up, what have you.

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Speaker 1: And there was a lot of other issues, and he

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Speaker 1: was not necessarily the reason. I personally believe that he

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Speaker 1: is still capable of being starting NFL quarterback. I'm down

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Speaker 1: on the GETSI high. I'm the one of the ones

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Speaker 1: who thinks that it was the Bears who did him

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Speaker 1: in his service. So I wouldn't mind him going to

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Speaker 1: a situation where either there's a firmly entrenched starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: alive Mahomes or you know, Josh Allen, or a situation

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Speaker 1: like maybe like Dallas, where you know Dak Prescott has

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Speaker 1: that big come. We don't know if he's gonna get well,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get an extension, but we know what kind

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Speaker 1: of an extension. Maybe he could be the guy waiting

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Speaker 1: in the wings that they get on the cheap. That

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Speaker 1: potentially could be the air apparent a situation like that.

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Speaker 2: M I don't hate that. Uh interesting. So if I

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Speaker 2: said to you, Rob, you could get Russell Wilson after

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Speaker 2: he's cut, it feels I find hard to believe that

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Speaker 2: the Raiders would take a guy in the division having

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Speaker 2: seen him, Russell Wilson Fields. I'm not gonna put Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins in there because my gut tells me he's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be healthy and they're not gonna take a chance

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Speaker 2: on him. And and there is there a mystery guy

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Speaker 2: you would go for as the potential starter for next season.

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Speaker 1: Well, my preference were he then to draft the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather them if it's at their current spot. If

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Speaker 1: it's you know, Pennix or Nicks or you know, maybe McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too high on him. I know some people are.

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Speaker 1: I'm particularly not or trading up to get Daniels or

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Speaker 1: someone like that. I'd rather them do that. But if

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Speaker 1: of those three, I'd rather take the upside of Fields

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Speaker 1: than either the other two guys.

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Speaker 2: Interesting all right, By the way, I did just look

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Speaker 2: this up, Rob Kyle used check anytime touchdown plus six

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Speaker 2: seventy five, So twenty bucks wins you like one hundred.

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Speaker 1: No, that's stealing money. That's stealing money.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, but then I just looked at used Check's

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Speaker 2: game log. Do you know me touchdowns he has this year? Two? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh cook November twelfth. I mean he's had one carry

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Speaker 2: in like the last eight weeks he's used very, very sparingly,

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Speaker 2: which is right where I like it. I don't want

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Speaker 2: some guys getting force fed. And then also the other

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Speaker 2: guy would look at is I think Elijah Mitchell. No,

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Speaker 2: like McCaffrey gets dinged up. Mitchell's gonna get carries. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna be able to run

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Speaker 2: on this Chiefs defense, but the props will do. You know,

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Speaker 2: we should try to get Rufus Peabody. Is that wait,

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Speaker 2: Rufus Yeah, Rufus Peabody. No, yes, that is his name.

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Speaker 2: He's been on the pod before. I can't believe. It's

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Speaker 2: just such a like kind of a you know, his

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Speaker 2: name is a little while anyways, all right, that's it

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Speaker 2: for today. We are back tomorrow robbib Be living it

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Speaker 2: up in Vegas, having reports on the ground for straight fire.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you then