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Speaker 2: All quiet on the coaching carousel, and that's going to
Speaker 2: be for a little while. This is the game that
Speaker 2: some of these teams are going to get into or
Speaker 2: maybe already in. You're waiting for Aaron Glenn, the defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator of the Lions, and you're waiting for Ben Johnson,
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for the Lions. They're probably both getting
Speaker 2: jobs this upcoming season, but you have to wait. They're
Speaker 2: still in the playoffs and probably going to be in
Speaker 2: the playoffs for a few more weeks. Maybe they're going
Speaker 2: to a super Bowl. Therefore, if you're bringing in people
Speaker 2: to interview and you're holding out help that you may
Speaker 2: get one of these two and that may hold up
Speaker 2: maybe hiring somebody else, or maybe you do go and
Speaker 2: hire somebody else. You don't wait. You know, the Raiders
Speaker 2: I think have the inside track with Ben Johnson, Certainly
Speaker 2: all indications point towards that, and Aaron Glenn with the Jets.
Speaker 2: So if you're the Saints, the Bears, like said some
Speaker 2: of the cowboys, like what are you waiting for? Who
Speaker 2: are you waiting for? And are you holding out false
Speaker 2: hope that these guys might be there. I'm going to
Speaker 2: imagine that Jerry Jones is looking at Ben Johnson because
Speaker 2: he probably wants that offense, that excitement. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: this will help Dak Prescott. You know, if he helped
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, he should be able to help Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: But what if you don't get him? Did you fire
Speaker 2: or let Mike McCarthy walk and really not having a
Speaker 2: plan be And I know the betting favorite is Deon Sanders.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if that's a real story. And look,
Speaker 2: maybe it is. Maybe Jerry is going to get Dion.
Speaker 2: He does like those shiny objects. Look at who I
Speaker 2: brought in. But I just don't get that feeling. And
Speaker 2: I don't get that feeling from Dion either. I could
Speaker 2: see Jerry doing it. I don't know if Dion feels
Speaker 2: like that's the right place or maybe the right time
Speaker 2: for him to go and coach in the NFL. But
Speaker 2: that's why it's kind of quiet.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: You haven't heard too much Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears.
Speaker 2: The Bears have interviewed. I would feel bad if I
Speaker 2: was a candidate and I didn't get it. Interviewed by
Speaker 2: the Bears. Hey, Han, did the Bears call today?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: All right, well let me know if they do. Ready
Speaker 2: for my zoom call here. But that's kind of the
Speaker 2: reason why it's a little bit quiet. You know what
Speaker 2: else is quiet? The Chiefs are going for a three P.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if there's Chiefs fatigue, but it
Speaker 2: certainly feels that that way. And I know every commercial
Speaker 2: you see or every other commercial you see, it's Mahomes,
Speaker 2: it's Andy Reid, it's you know, Travis Kelcey Kelsey's podcast,
Speaker 2: Taylor's Swift. I get it. But let's not lose sight
Speaker 2: of what they're doing or trying to do. It's never
Speaker 2: been done before. It's an Oh, by the way, they're
Speaker 2: going for a three P. And it feels after a
Speaker 2: while and it is fatigue, like we have voter fatigue,
Speaker 2: Like there's there's no way Joker is going to win
Speaker 2: another MVP because they'll be voter fatigue. And you know,
Speaker 2: we had this same feeling with Golden State years ago.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh God, can somebody knock off at Golden State.
Speaker 2: We get, you know, a fan fatigue, voter fatigue, and
Speaker 2: I think we have Chiefs fatigue. Right now, where you go,
Speaker 2: do we really care? They have this Saturday afternoon game
Speaker 2: against the Texans. If this was New England with Brady
Speaker 2: and Belichick, I can't imagine they would open up the
Speaker 2: divisional round of the playoffs at home in a four
Speaker 2: thirty afternoon start against the Texans. Now, this says a
Speaker 2: lot about the Texans. Apparently, it's like they're in all right,
Speaker 2: we got to put them on TV. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: True TV. We could put them on, Yes, PAULI.
Speaker 4: If you look at the NFL schedule this weekend, Texans
Speaker 4: Chiefs feel like an opening band at a big concert festival.
Speaker 4: They're on the secondary stage at four pm, and Ravens
Speaker 4: Bills feels like the headliner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Coachella and then you're going to open up.
Speaker 2: But here's the Chiefs. Oh, by the way, and you know,
Speaker 2: we're ready to annoint Patrick Mahomes pretty soon as the
Speaker 2: best quarterback of all time, Travis Kelcey hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: Andy Reid hall of Famer and going for a threepeat.
Speaker 2: And it's sort of like s and maybe the Chiefs
Speaker 2: like this that maybe they're not being focused. You know,
Speaker 2: we're focused on what we're focused on Lamar Jackson, maybe
Speaker 2: another MVP. Can he get to the Super Bowl? How
Speaker 2: about the Lions? Maybe this is the year for the Lions. Hey,
Speaker 2: you don't want to play the Rams. The Eagles might
Speaker 2: be the most balanced team. And we keep talking about
Speaker 2: everybody except for the defending champs, the two time defending champs.
Speaker 2: And look, maybe you'll tell me if you call in
Speaker 2: each seven to seven three DP show if you do
Speaker 2: have that Chiefs fatigue? Why because even when they lost
Speaker 2: one game and then you know, they lost to Denver
Speaker 2: at the end of the season, but even when they're
Speaker 2: fifteen and one, did we talked about they're lucky. You're
Speaker 2: not going to be able to play this way in
Speaker 2: the postseason like we're almost waiting, hoping, or at least
Speaker 2: you get that feeling from people that, no, not the
Speaker 2: Chiefs again. But if you have Buffalo and you have
Speaker 2: Baltimore and they make it to the Super Bowl, I
Speaker 2: think people would be thrilled. NFL fans would be thrilled
Speaker 2: if one of those two teams was there. And maybe
Speaker 2: not because you're rooting for them as much as you
Speaker 2: don't want the Chiefs. Oh gosh, here we go again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul and I did see some people on social
Speaker 4: media this weekend when it was Texans at Chiefs. Even
Speaker 4: though the Texans had a great week last week, it
Speaker 4: feels like the Chiefs path got easier. Either the Ravens
Speaker 4: or Bills will be gone. They don't have to face
Speaker 4: one of those two teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well come up with the pole question.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, this might be a Texans thing. So I
Speaker 5: just looked up divisional playoffs Patriots versus Texans. It was
Speaker 5: on US Saturday. You're you're fourteenth, twenty seventeen. They played
Speaker 5: on a Saturday afternoon. Wow, so it might be the
Speaker 5: Texans sections. Okay, that's a good good research there, thank you.
Speaker 5: Uh see, what's pole question for the first town?
Speaker 2: Uh well, let's see.
Speaker 6: We could start with game you are most looking forward
Speaker 6: to watching this weekend. That's not Ravens Bills.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we're taking them off the board.
Speaker 6: You got to take that right off the I mean,
Speaker 6: that's the best game of the weekend for sure. Okay,
Speaker 6: but you have Texas Chiefs, Commander's Lions, Rams Eagles, Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: those are those are all pretty good. I would say
Speaker 6: I would put Rams Eagles towards the top of that.
Speaker 6: But Commander's Lions is it.
Speaker 2: Yes, that to me seems like that's the the marquee
Speaker 2: matchup and that's a that's a Saturday night game. But
Speaker 2: it feels like, you know, it's still Ravens in the
Speaker 2: Bills because of those two quarterbacks, and we keep waiting
Speaker 2: for one of these guys to win a big game. Now,
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is won a few more big games the
Speaker 2: playoffs then Lamar has, But it feels like that when
Speaker 2: we're all tied up with who's gonna win, and you know,
Speaker 2: is that gonna be the MVP game that you were
Speaker 2: Whoever wins, you're gonna go, yep, they should be the
Speaker 2: MVP even though it's a regular season award. It feels
Speaker 2: like we're attaching a whole lot to that matchup with
Speaker 2: these two. Yeah, Paulie, it does.
Speaker 4: Feel like Commander's Lions is great because it's two great stories.
Speaker 4: The Lions, everyone kind of roots for them, even if
Speaker 4: you don't love them or grow up on them. And
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels and the Commanders, like you said a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, he made them likable, you know, Notre
Speaker 4: Dame's now likable because of Marcus Freeman and whatever. But
Speaker 4: the commander's being likable. That's been a long time coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great story. I don't think you root
Speaker 2: against either one of these teams unless you're in the
Speaker 2: NFC East and you don't like Washington. But this is
Speaker 2: not This is not your typical Washington team that you
Speaker 2: wouldn't like. I think the fact that they got out
Speaker 2: of out from underneath Dan Snyder's stink. The Lions are
Speaker 2: still likable. But that could change though, you know if
Speaker 2: they win the Super Bowl and then Dan Campbell's doing
Speaker 2: all these commercials. You know, Jake from State Farm is
Speaker 2: there with Dan Campbell and they're biting kneecaps or whatever.
Speaker 2: But Jared Goff, Jared Goff does an insurance commercial and
Speaker 2: this is the only thing I've ever seen him in,
Speaker 2: and it's a woman whose last name is the same
Speaker 2: as his. Is that that Goff insurance company? Marvin the
Speaker 2: law firm, law firm?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay? Now is that is he related to this woman?
Speaker 2: Because I see the signs where he's standing next to her,
Speaker 2: and he's got kind of a generic football jersey. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not one of those Hey, you're on State Farm.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I'm with a law firm and it just
Speaker 2: so happens. It's the woman who I think runs the
Speaker 2: law firm has the same last neet. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's related to her. Yes, Tod, Yeah, it's Brooke Goff.
Speaker 7: The billboards all over the place. You did stuff with
Speaker 7: Mike Tyson and other celebrity types. It's got quite a
Speaker 7: racket going.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Tod.
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Speaker 2: Big Game coming up tonight. It's a rematch. You want
Speaker 2: new blood, you got it. It's the Cabs and Thunder.
Speaker 2: So we're in the middle of January. At what point
Speaker 2: do you go, all right, I guess they're legitimate. You know,
Speaker 2: I said that the Rockets were going to be the
Speaker 2: surprise team in the West starting this season, and they're
Speaker 2: second in the West right now. But you might be going,
Speaker 2: all right, they're twenty seven in twelve. Well, considering that
Speaker 2: they lost at least sixty games the previous three seasons,
Speaker 2: this seems like a pretty good turnaround for the Houston
Speaker 2: Rockets twenty seven and twelve. But the Cabs in the East,
Speaker 2: you probably still say, well, I take the Celtics. Or
Speaker 2: if you say, oh, the Thunder now, I don't know
Speaker 2: who else you would go. You might say, can the
Speaker 2: Rockets be the best team? Who else in the West?
Speaker 2: Where you go, they're going to be formidable? You know,
Speaker 2: Golden State. I thought maybe they make a trade here
Speaker 2: at some point. But you start to look at some
Speaker 2: of these teams and you go, how many teams can
Speaker 2: win the championship this year? You know, Miami with their
Speaker 2: mess with Jimmy Butler, the Bucks. It feels like we're
Speaker 2: either in or out, you know, depending on the week.
Speaker 2: I did watch Wen Banyama again last night. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: he's spectacular. How he didn't win Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: Last year, I am I and stunned. Stunned Jah Moran
Speaker 2: had a dunk over Wemban Yama. Now it didn't count,
Speaker 2: but it was it's going to count for something. I mean,
Speaker 2: that is a poster if you see it, and Ja
Speaker 2: Moran is going up against Wemban Yama and he dunks.
Speaker 2: But it didn't count. It did count for me when
Speaker 2: I watched it, because I can't erase it from my
Speaker 2: memory bank.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, So I was gonna ask that question last
Speaker 5: night when I saw the dunk. All right, so play
Speaker 5: the day. I'm thinking it's that. I know it didn't count,
Speaker 5: but we don't do play the day that county. It's
Speaker 5: just play the day period.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Yeah, But wemban Yama he had thirteen points,
Speaker 2: twelve rebounds, and he had eight block shots.
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Speaker 2: Yama is he's just figuring this thing out and it
Speaker 2: is remarkable. I know, I know, I keep throwing verbal
Speaker 2: bouquets at him and you know, he's just he's young
Speaker 2: and is still figuring out the game, and that's what's scary.
Speaker 2: You see him do things and you go, that's not normal,
Speaker 2: that's not normal. Both ends of the floor. He's probably
Speaker 2: the best two way player in the NBA in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Now you might have somebody else, Marvin, you might suggest
Speaker 2: somebody else, But if I look at what he does
Speaker 2: on the defensive end, I don't think there's anybody who
Speaker 2: can guard the top of the key and in the
Speaker 2: paint at the same time, and he does that. I
Speaker 2: mean he's averaging twenty seven a game. Yes, Marv, actually, DP,
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. I don't really think it's
Speaker 2: as far as the best two way player in the game.
Speaker 5: But my question is when do people start hating him
Speaker 5: year four, year five, if he doesn't want to start
Speaker 5: winning championships.
Speaker 7: Because we've done this with other people too.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're there yet. And he's in San Antonio,
Speaker 2: so he's not featured, he's not on commercial like, he
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten to the point of being an irritant. It's
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason why people had a problem with
Speaker 2: the Spurs usually because Greg Popovich. You know, he was gruff,
Speaker 2: but that was it. Like Tim Duncan, what did you
Speaker 2: dislike him for being boring? Boringly great? And people did.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh god, the spurs that get It's weird
Speaker 2: how we don't embrace I grew up when you had dynasties,
Speaker 2: but I don't think we like dynasties anymore. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't want that one team where you go, that's
Speaker 2: the team to beat. It's like you want new blood
Speaker 2: in the constantly. You know, we had Patriot fatigue, but
Speaker 2: it was Patriot greatness that was right in front of us.
Speaker 2: Or if you're watching and you're watching tennis, not him again,
Speaker 2: not her again, But like, we shouldn't lose sight of
Speaker 2: greatness that's there. You may not like it because they
Speaker 2: beat your team, but if you don't have a dog
Speaker 2: in the fight, just to appreciate what the Chiefs have
Speaker 2: been doing and replaceable parts, that's what's amazing. It's really
Speaker 2: really difficult for a variety of reasons to stay this
Speaker 2: good for this amount of time. Yeah, Paul, I saw
Speaker 2: an article a few years ago. I think it was
Speaker 2: Sports Business Journal or one of those Forbes. Leagues do
Speaker 2: best when there's dynasties. They get the best ratings when
Speaker 2: there's dynasties, the Bulls, the Warriors NFL Baseball, because it
Speaker 2: makes it easy for the average fan or casual fan
Speaker 2: to consume the sport. They don't have to relearn the
Speaker 2: stars or relearn the teams. Said, it's actually worse when
Speaker 2: there's a new title winner every year, whatever major sports
Speaker 2: there is. Yeah, because you're now aware, you're familiar with
Speaker 2: these players, with this team, with this coach, and therefore
Speaker 2: you can watch a game and either be fascinated by
Speaker 2: watching them or be rooting against them.
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Speaker 2: Media that's Covino and Rich. He is Chris Collinsworth who
Speaker 2: used to be quick. He used to be fast. Collinsworth
Speaker 2: used to be fast. That was a long, long time ago.
Speaker 2: How fast do you think you could run a forty
Speaker 2: yard dash?
Speaker 9: Last time I ran a forty yard dash, my kid
Speaker 9: got me in the backyard. So we were talking about it.
Speaker 9: So they were claiming they could beat me, right, and
Speaker 9: I said, no way. They were like, they're a teenagers.
Speaker 9: So this is probably fifteen years ago, and so we
Speaker 9: lined it up, we had time prials, we had the
Speaker 9: whole thing, and I just I literally warmed up for
Speaker 9: a half an hour because I hadn't sprinted forever, right,
Speaker 9: warmed up for a half an hour, came out there.
Speaker 9: I made it thirty eight and a half yards before
Speaker 9: I pulled my hamstring.
Speaker 3: So I have no idea.
Speaker 9: I fell across the line. It was the worst moment
Speaker 9: of all time, but I was only one and a
Speaker 9: half yards away from having an official time for you,
Speaker 9: So I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Is speed more important than quickness as far as being
Speaker 2: a wide receiver.
Speaker 9: I think there's both, you know. I think there's people
Speaker 9: that Randy Moss obviously could just run by you. Some
Speaker 9: of these big guys, Arrell Owens, I always thought I
Speaker 9: didn't know what his forty yard dash time was, but
Speaker 9: it didn't matter. You know, the forty yard dash really
Speaker 9: comes down to the first ten yards whoever is the
Speaker 9: quickest getting off. So a lot of times the smaller
Speaker 9: receivers can get off the line of scrimmage in that
Speaker 9: first ten yards and a great time. But what I
Speaker 9: see out of the league is that a lot of
Speaker 9: these long legged six four six ' five guys that
Speaker 9: can build up speed. What really matters is when you
Speaker 9: hit the jets around twenty five yards, you know, when
Speaker 9: you make your move and you're close and now you've
Speaker 9: got to run by those guys. And that's when some
Speaker 9: of the real stars of the league really emerge, because
Speaker 9: then it's just like, So that's my support for the
Speaker 9: tall receivers in the league.
Speaker 2: But how do you explain Cooper Cup and Puka Nakua,
Speaker 2: who aren't for four guys but they're extremely successful.
Speaker 9: Well, I think Cooper is and I love watching him
Speaker 9: run and I can't believe I was so stupid. I
Speaker 9: never thought of any of this stuff when I was playing.
Speaker 9: But he does a little triple move that is just awesome.
Speaker 9: So it's like dunt dun duhn, and then the dbs
Speaker 9: just get frozen. So it's not like he's there fearing
Speaker 9: him running past him as much is they have no
Speaker 9: idea which one of these Isaac Curtis could do that
Speaker 9: a little bit, Dan, you remember him, my old teammate,
Speaker 9: and he had this thing that he got from Paul Warfield.
Speaker 9: And it's interesting that I couldn't I didn't do it well,
Speaker 9: but and seeing Cooper and now he's teaching at the PUKA.
Speaker 9: But Pooka, for the most part, I think is a
Speaker 9: fullback playing wide receiver. You know when you watch the
Speaker 9: Rams play, how many early downs start with they just
Speaker 9: get him the ball in the flat and he runs
Speaker 9: over somebody in the second and three and so. But
Speaker 9: he's he's a tremendous, tremendous player in both those guys.
Speaker 9: The magic of that team has always been the play action,
Speaker 9: the run game, the bootlegs off of it. But the
Speaker 9: ability of those two guys to make key blocks. I'm
Speaker 9: just going back and watching the first Rams Eagles game
Speaker 9: and a lot of the big plays that they had
Speaker 9: in the running game came from those two guys blocking.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do the Rams win this game?
Speaker 9: I think they can. Matthew Stafford has to be great.
Speaker 9: He just has to be great. I mean he is.
Speaker 9: He can handle anything. He's not going to get hit.
Speaker 9: He's not going to let these guys just beat on him. Now,
Speaker 9: they did get him a couple of times, but haven
Speaker 9: Stein wasn't playing right tackle. It was McClendon last time.
Speaker 9: But he's tremendous getting the ball out of his hands
Speaker 9: and not having the Kobe Dean.
Speaker 3: Is will hurt Philadelphia.
Speaker 9: He really flashed in that first game, a couple of
Speaker 9: big tackles for losses and big hits on the quarterback.
Speaker 9: He ran over Kyron Williams one time on a pass rush,
Speaker 9: so they'll miss him. But it wouldn't surprise me at
Speaker 9: all to see this thing come down to a lot
Speaker 9: of man coverage on the back end. I mean, there's
Speaker 9: just no way that they can let the Eagles just
Speaker 9: overpower them again with Saquon Barkley, right, So that means
Speaker 9: you got to get up, got to try and stuff
Speaker 9: the run.
Speaker 3: You just got to be able to get after.
Speaker 9: Their run game, and whatever happens in the passing game
Speaker 9: happens in the passing game.
Speaker 2: It feels like every year there's a surprise in the
Speaker 2: divisional round. So if that's the case, give me the
Speaker 2: surprise this weekend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, I probably would have said our game. And
Speaker 9: I think that people, and rightfully so, look at the
Speaker 9: Eagles as a team that very prominent and could easily
Speaker 9: win a Super Bowl. And it's the kind of team
Speaker 9: that I like to If I build a football team,
Speaker 9: I would build the Philadelphia Eagles. I would build power
Speaker 9: on the offensive line. I would build power on the
Speaker 9: defensive line. Some of these big guys, Jalen Carter's unbelievable.
Speaker 9: I don't know that people give him enough credit for
Speaker 9: what he does. He draws double teams from every team
Speaker 9: every single time, and if you single.
Speaker 3: Block, he blows you away.
Speaker 9: That all being said, I think what we saw out
Speaker 9: of the Rams last week gives them a chance because
Speaker 9: they really were able to play manned coverage against a
Speaker 9: very good Vikings passing game, which surprised me a little bit.
Speaker 9: They've really grown in the secondary on the back end
Speaker 9: with what they've been able to do, and Matthew Stafford
Speaker 9: has the ability to offset a pass rush. He has
Speaker 9: the ability with his brain, with his experience to not
Speaker 9: give up those big plays. Now, having said that, the
Speaker 9: last two series that I watched of this first game
Speaker 9: between these two, they took sacks and they couldn't block
Speaker 9: those guys inside. So it's you know, but I do
Speaker 9: think when you have a veteran quarterback that has the
Speaker 9: ability to dictate a game, not get hit, not give
Speaker 9: up big sacks, and not throw interceptions, that it does
Speaker 9: give you a.
Speaker 3: Chance, is it?
Speaker 2: Mandatory that when the Texans make the playoffs, they must
Speaker 2: play the first game in the playoffs as early on
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon as possible.
Speaker 9: Apparently so the ESPN game we used to call it
Speaker 9: back in the day. But you know, the Texans were
Speaker 9: impressive last week. I mean, there's just you just have
Speaker 9: to say what it is when when they when they
Speaker 9: get it going, especially on the defensive side, you know
Speaker 9: they have the ability to go get your quarterback. And
Speaker 9: the problem is that, I mean, short of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 9: and the Kansas City Chiefs just not liking all this
Speaker 9: time off. And I can't imagine a veteran team wouldn't.
Speaker 9: But maybe they're just not razor sharp. But I've been
Speaker 9: to so many Andy Reid practices over the years. These
Speaker 9: guys practice hard. I mean, it's not like when you
Speaker 9: when they get time off. It's not like they're flipflops
Speaker 9: walking around like the forty nine ers used to do
Speaker 9: when they were whipping our butts all the time. But
Speaker 9: they come out there and they are practicing and they're
Speaker 9: getting after it. So generally there's a reason why Andy's
Speaker 9: teams do fine after buys.
Speaker 2: It feels like here's a team that could go for
Speaker 2: a three peet, but I think it's being under sold.
Speaker 2: I think there is Chiefs fatigue with the media that
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at the storylines, Chris, we're
Speaker 2: talking about anything but the chief Now, granted it's the
Speaker 2: divisional round against the Texans, but we're focusing on the
Speaker 2: lines Jayden Daniels, Josh Allen, you know versus Lamar Jackson. Like,
Speaker 2: we're going out of our way to make sure that
Speaker 2: we're talking about anything but the Kansas City Chiefs. Why
Speaker 2: is that.
Speaker 9: Because they've converted into a defensive team, not that they
Speaker 9: aren't capable, but when't we all like we're overwhelmed watching
Speaker 9: the Kansas City Chiefs. It was because Tyreek Hill and
Speaker 9: company and they were taking the top off and they're
Speaker 9: throwing bombs and mahomes.
Speaker 3: Was you know, it was just insane.
Speaker 9: They were scoring points all over the place and it's
Speaker 9: really not what they are right now, and they are
Speaker 9: still fully capable of doing that. But they got the
Speaker 9: fifteen and one this year because of the way they
Speaker 9: played defense. And honestly, it was the same thing yesterday
Speaker 9: or last year that they really just played great defense.
Speaker 9: Chris Jones and company in there those guys, they win
Speaker 9: the game on the defensive side. And then we remember
Speaker 9: Mahomes making a player Kelsey making a play at the
Speaker 9: end of the game and scoring a touchdown. And but
Speaker 9: you go back to that Ravens championship game last year.
Speaker 9: I mean, it was a fistfight. It was a violent,
Speaker 9: violent football game. And I think that's what's missed out
Speaker 9: of this when you watch Kansas City where people talk
Speaker 9: about him, is you know, Philadelphia I consider a violent
Speaker 9: football team. I think Kansas City is too. They've got
Speaker 9: that interior wall inside with those great center and two guards.
Speaker 9: Physically can come off the ball, and defensively, I think
Speaker 9: they're as good as anybody in the league.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Chris collins Worth, NBC Sunday Night Football analyst,
Speaker 2: and he'll be on the call with Mike Treco Melissa Stark.
Speaker 2: That will be Sunday at three. It's the Rams in
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Who has more to gain in Buffalo between
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
Speaker 9: Who I think that Josh has at least played well
Speaker 9: in really big playoff games. I mean the fact that
Speaker 9: they lost that game to Kansas City that year when
Speaker 9: he makes that brilliant comeback and with twenty seconds left
Speaker 9: or whatever it was, Mahomes comes back. That really wasn't
Speaker 9: on him, right, Lamar's coming off a year in which
Speaker 9: probably wins the MVP again. I don't know how that
Speaker 9: vote's just trying to read the tea leaves of some
Speaker 9: of that stuff. But it could be his third MVP
Speaker 9: and the only thing he has not done is tear
Speaker 9: it up in the postseason. And so you're sitting there
Speaker 9: and as a coach, what do you tell him? It's like,
Speaker 9: do you tell them, all, right, Lamar, let's put the
Speaker 9: ball in your hands, let's go.
Speaker 3: You just be the man.
Speaker 9: Or do you just say, hey, Lamar, just do what
Speaker 9: you've done right, We've got King Henry. Let's be patient,
Speaker 9: let's do this. Don't feel like you've got to take
Speaker 9: it in your own hands, you know. So it's kind
Speaker 9: of a quand read. So I'm going to say, Lamar,
Speaker 9: I think as great as he has been in the
Speaker 9: regular season, he kind of needs to stamp it a
Speaker 9: little bit with a Super Bowl championship. In this team,
Speaker 9: they're fully capable.
Speaker 2: More valuable off season edition Derek can He or Saquon Barklay.
Speaker 9: I think Saquon Derrick Henry has been really good, and
Speaker 9: he's got the compliment of Lamar, but Squon has the
Speaker 9: complement of this offensive line. And it's one of the
Speaker 9: things that I really I mean, it's it's so I
Speaker 9: played receiver. I've played every position in the NFL basically
Speaker 9: at one time or another, but I started as an
Speaker 9: offensive lineman. But this really highlights the the what this
Speaker 9: offensive line has been over the years, right, I mean,
Speaker 9: this has been a dominant force for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 9: It was when they won the championship, it is now
Speaker 9: if they win another championship, it'll be for that same reason.
Speaker 9: Offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 7: And I.
Speaker 9: Think that Saquon behind this group has really just shown
Speaker 9: what they have been able to do over the years.
Speaker 9: And if they win, it'll be Saquan running the ball.
Speaker 9: I think they're a very good passing team, but if
Speaker 9: they win, it'll be because they overpower teams the rest.
Speaker 7: Of the way.
Speaker 2: Why is Mike McCarthy out of the job in Dallas?
Speaker 3: I gotta say that one surprised me a little bit.
Speaker 9: You know, if he had won so three out of
Speaker 9: four years he won twelve games, right, maybe he didn't.
Speaker 9: He couldn't beat the forty nine ers in the playoffs,
Speaker 9: and that's what it was. Unfortunately, the decision year was
Speaker 9: the year that he didn't win twelve games in Dallas.
Speaker 3: So and Jerry Jones, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I just keep watching this Deon Sanders thing, you know,
Speaker 9: and you go, okay, I mean, you know, Dion's done
Speaker 9: great in Colorado. He's you know, this is a We've
Speaker 9: got a new age of football. We're seeing much more
Speaker 9: of a college kind of football game happening.
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, that Ron, all this stuff.
Speaker 9: Maybe Dion's the perfect new age head coach too. But
Speaker 9: that whole thing is that whole dynamic now is getting
Speaker 9: really really really interesting.
Speaker 3: So what are you going to think?
Speaker 2: It's real? Chris? You think that Dione possibly to the
Speaker 2: Cowboys is real?
Speaker 9: I think anything with the Cowboys is possible. I mean,
Speaker 9: come on, how many times do we watch this show?
Speaker 9: And it is a show. I mean it is when
Speaker 9: you're you walk in that facility, you walk in that stadium,
Speaker 9: and the cheerleaders, and I mean from the moment you
Speaker 9: arrive in Dallas, you understand it's not a football team.
Speaker 3: It is a show.
Speaker 9: And the ring master is Jerry Jones and whatever whatever
Speaker 9: he really leaves sells more tickets to the show and
Speaker 9: creates more wins, So you sell more tickets to the show.
Speaker 9: He's going to do it. Do I think Dion can
Speaker 9: do it? I do, but I'm not sure. But I
Speaker 9: got to be honest. You know, there's a reason Lamar
Speaker 9: Jackson was the last player picked in the first round.
Speaker 9: There were thirty one other teams that weren't sure that
Speaker 9: he was going to be able to do what he's doing.
Speaker 9: So I'm not saying that Dion can't. We just haven't
Speaker 9: seen a former player go coach a couple of years
Speaker 9: in college football and go be head coach of the
Speaker 9: Cowboys and find a way to make it work with
Speaker 9: Jerry is the ring leader. So it's everybody that I
Speaker 9: know that's ever been head coach of the Cowboys. They'll
Speaker 9: tell you it's different. You know, It's it's not like
Speaker 9: being in Green Bay. Is not like being you know,
Speaker 9: it's different. There's more to being the head coach in
Speaker 9: Dallas and being the head coach.
Speaker 2: Fill in the blank, justin Herbert is blank.
Speaker 9: Extremely talented. I didn't think that they had enough this year.
Speaker 9: I was actually impressed that. I mean, they went out
Speaker 9: in a terrible way for him. You know, that was
Speaker 9: not a good performance by him at all in the playoffs.
Speaker 9: But I think they've set the table a little bit.
Speaker 9: You know, they've established what Horrball wants them to be.
Speaker 9: They need help a receiver. They just don't have enough
Speaker 9: right now to be able to do really what they want.
Speaker 9: They're not going to They can't go compete with the
Speaker 9: Philadelphia Eagles of the world, you know, and just go
Speaker 9: bang heads in there. So year one take them to
Speaker 9: the playoffs. Yeah, I think it's successful, and I do
Speaker 9: think he'll come back. I think it was a bad performance.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Al Michaels joining us, Al,
Speaker 2: would you give Chris a little taste of maybe what
Speaker 2: they used to share? Jackson drives back there and there
Speaker 2: he goes, Chris, we did that to Al Seaton did
Speaker 2: his al Michael's in person personation and Al goes, do
Speaker 2: I sound like he didn't like it, But now whenever
Speaker 2: you hear him and there he goes.
Speaker 9: He has a great way of changing gears and and
Speaker 9: dumb it and he's.
Speaker 2: Just about out of Josh m maringos.
Speaker 9: We all steal from each other, right, I mean, I
Speaker 9: take the best of you and whoever al and you
Speaker 9: incorporated in a little bit and everything you do.
Speaker 2: Have fun this weekend. Thank you, Chris. Good to talk
Speaker 2: to you, man.
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Speaker 2: I saw a tweet from Ed Werder and of course
Speaker 2: always reading Ed Werders tweets, and had something to do
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys. Ed is a cowboy insider for w
Speaker 2: FAA TV in Dallas, had to do with Dion, had
Speaker 2: to do with Jerry Jones, and maybe maybe this is
Speaker 2: actually in the on deck circling could happen, and Ed
Speaker 2: Werder kind of enough to join us. So you piqued
Speaker 2: my interest with this, So explain what your tweet was
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 10: That was my one and only interest in tweeting Dan
Speaker 10: was to get your attention, Thank you, and to have
Speaker 10: an opportunity to make a long awaited guest appearance on
Speaker 10: the show. If you want to play golf again, let
Speaker 10: me know. Yeah, I've I've been obviously following the Cowboys,
Speaker 10: you know, for a long time. But you know, certainly
Speaker 10: throughout this season and extending that coverage through the dismissal
Speaker 10: of Mike McCarthy, which I think surprised a lot of people,
Speaker 10: even those of us who covered the team on a
Speaker 10: regular basis. And you know, when you start configuring a
Speaker 10: list of potential candidates to be the next head coach
Speaker 10: only in Dallas do you have to make sure to
Speaker 10: include Dion Sanders and Jason Witten former you know Cowboys
Speaker 10: tight end great who Jerry is enamored with, who has
Speaker 10: only coached at the high school level. Regarding Dion, obviously
Speaker 10: we know that he has not yet formally interviewed for
Speaker 10: the job.
Speaker 7: The Cowboys have.
Speaker 10: Extended invitations to Leslie Frazier and Robert Salah to be
Speaker 10: the first two to interview formerly for the job. But
Speaker 10: Dion told Adam Schefter the other day that Jerry Jones
Speaker 10: reached out to him and they discussed the job, and
Speaker 10: everything I continue to be told Dan is that Jerry
Speaker 10: is interested. It was described to me as he's enamored
Speaker 10: with the idea. Obviously, It's hard to imagine any coaching
Speaker 10: candidate who could create more interest, someone that Jerry could
Speaker 10: more sell to the fan base here which needs to
Speaker 10: happen and make Jerry more money than Dion Sanders. I mean,
Speaker 10: he won a Super Bowl here as a player. So
Speaker 10: there are also people around Dion who tell me that
Speaker 10: he's being urged by his supporters in Colorado to take
Speaker 10: the job, and that they believe if Jerry ever does
Speaker 10: offer him the job, that he will take. That he
Speaker 10: has an extension to remain at Colorado on his desk
Speaker 10: that he hasn't even looked at as he considers these
Speaker 10: other possibilities. But you know, I mean, there are also
Speaker 10: people close to Dion who tell me they don't see
Speaker 10: it happening, but they've seen things happen with Jerry Jones
Speaker 10: that they didn't expect to happen before. And he did
Speaker 10: hire Barry Switzer, so you can't rule anything out. He's
Speaker 10: the most unpredictable owner in the NFL on any subject,
Speaker 10: especially this one.
Speaker 2: But do you think that Jerry Jones had somebody in
Speaker 2: mind when he was willing to let Mike McCarthy leave.
Speaker 10: I assume that Jerry's done this enough times. This is
Speaker 10: his eighth time that he knows before you let somebody
Speaker 10: who has some value it has proven himself to the degree.
Speaker 10: You know, Mike McCarthy has as a head coach in
Speaker 10: this league with two different franchises that you're sure you're
Speaker 10: going to get somebody who you think is going to
Speaker 10: do a better job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I man for some reason. And I was talking
Speaker 2: to Tim Callishaw, of course he covers the Cowboys, and
Speaker 2: he said Dion was treating this as if he was
Speaker 2: offered the job.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 2: His response was, Hey, I'm honored or humboled or whatever,
Speaker 2: but I got work to do as if he was
Speaker 2: getting the job offer. And then I thought, well, maybe
Speaker 2: is Jerry doing Dion a favor by Hey, maybe we
Speaker 2: have some interest here and that helps him even more
Speaker 2: with that extension at Colorado. But you think this is real,
Speaker 2: This is something that could happen.
Speaker 10: I think it has merit, and I think when we're
Speaker 10: talking about Jerry and Dion, you always have to be
Speaker 10: wary of how this conversation could benefit each of them,
Speaker 10: and it certainly does. But I think there is a
Speaker 10: possibility of it happening. I mean, Dion apparently told Adam
Speaker 10: Schefter that he doesn't need to use the Cowboys's leverage
Speaker 10: to get what he wants at Colorado, that he's him,
Speaker 10: and there's probably a lot of truth in that, given
Speaker 10: the effect he's had on that program and the attention
Speaker 10: he's brought to it and the money that's been dedicated
Speaker 10: to the program since then. But yeah, and I think
Speaker 10: a key figure if this were to go very far,
Speaker 10: would be Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike Zimmer was a
Speaker 10: defensive coordinator here this most recent season under Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 10: coached under five head coaches in Dallas, and he has
Speaker 10: not decided what he's going to do in terms of
Speaker 10: whether he wants to continue coaching or not. I think
Speaker 10: a lot of that is dependent upon what direction Jerry
Speaker 10: decides to go in hiring the next head coach.
Speaker 7: And he would.
Speaker 10: Certainly, almost certainly Dan be a part of it if
Speaker 10: Dion Sanders is the coach, because Mike is very close
Speaker 10: to Dion. He coached him when he was here. He
Speaker 10: was close, so close to his program at Jackson State
Speaker 10: and then at Colorado that there were people speculating that
Speaker 10: Zimmer was going to be the defensive coordinator of Colorado.
Speaker 10: That never happened, but Zimmer made it clear during the
Speaker 10: season when we spoke to him that he does frequently
Speaker 10: still speak to Deon Sanders, So I'm sure he would
Speaker 10: be heavily involved in that. And it's interesting that he
Speaker 10: has made no mention or or offered no decision on
Speaker 10: his future.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we've talked about Jerry and he hires coaches
Speaker 2: that are submissive and malleable, and that's not Dion. So
Speaker 2: is Jerry finally maybe coming around to that I need
Speaker 2: to have somebody be a head coach, act like a
Speaker 2: head coach and not be looking over their shoulder constantly.
Speaker 10: Well, do you think that Jerry would think that there's
Speaker 10: not room for him to influence Dion Sanders, who's never
Speaker 10: coached at the NFL level, on how he' views his
Speaker 10: best route to being successful. I think Jerry would see
Speaker 10: this as a very a very positive opportunity for him
Speaker 10: to influence the way Dion Sanders coaches Jerry's football team. Now,
Speaker 10: was interesting that during the season, when Jerry was first
Speaker 10: asked about Dion, you know, he praised him as one
Speaker 10: of his favorite players of all time and you know
Speaker 10: his competitiveness that he brought to the team, but he
Speaker 10: also sort of dismissed his value as a head coach
Speaker 10: in the NFL because he said, what Dion offers, Now,
Speaker 10: that's most attractive and most influences his success at CU
Speaker 10: at the college level is his ability to record, and
Speaker 10: that's not going to be a significant part of his
Speaker 10: success in the NFL should he opt to coach in
Speaker 10: the NFL. And that's true, I mean, he could influence
Speaker 10: free agents, but the Cowboys have not been heavily involved
Speaker 10: in free agency in recent years, to their own detriment.
Speaker 10: Quite honestly. You know, they were the last team to
Speaker 10: sign a player four out of the last five years.
Speaker 10: So it was interesting to me that Jerry thought that
Speaker 10: was the most unique ability Dion possessed and that it
Speaker 10: would not be a significant factor in whether he succeeded
Speaker 10: at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: Did Mike McCarthy want out?
Speaker 10: That's not the sense I got. I mean, when the
Speaker 10: season ended, he was unequivocal and very public about the
Speaker 10: fact that his goal in the next few days was
Speaker 10: to remain in Dallas. He said he had made an
Speaker 10: investment in Dallas, the Cowboys had made an investment in him.
Speaker 7: I think his.
Speaker 10: Family wanted to be here. I sincerely think Mike McCarthy
Speaker 10: wanted it, expected it to work out, And I don't
Speaker 10: know that we fully understand the real reasons.
Speaker 2: It did great to talk to you always, ed Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 2: An Edwarder covers the Cowboys for WFAA TV in Dallas.
Speaker 2: He's Drome Bett. Jerome bettis the Hall of Fame running back,
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl and a former running back out
Speaker 2: of Notre Dame nineteen ninety three draft. I believe do
Speaker 2: you see your jersey behind me?
Speaker 7: I see it. I love it. I love That's all
Speaker 7: school right there.
Speaker 2: That's rams Jerome Bettis.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where.
Speaker 2: Do you want that? Bet? Do you want that? Bet?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate you displaying it proudly. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: How many jerseys do you have? Do you collect jerseys?
Speaker 7: I do have? I do have some. Yeah, I've got
Speaker 7: I've got a few. But but what I did was
Speaker 7: I collected them as I was playing from different players.
Speaker 7: You know, we would trade jerseys and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: So I didn't do much like buying jerseys or anything
Speaker 7: like that. It were all given to me at one
Speaker 7: time or another.
Speaker 2: All right, give me an idea of who you have
Speaker 2: what jerseys?
Speaker 7: I mean, my I guess my pride and enjoy would
Speaker 7: be uh, Jim Brown. I mean, I didn't play with him,
Speaker 7: but he you know, he signed it and everything for me.
Speaker 7: Marshall fall I'm trying to think Barry Sanders. It was
Speaker 7: a lot of running backs as I think about it.
Speaker 7: But the problem is I don't have them displayed. My
Speaker 7: wife didn't let me put any of my jerseys up
Speaker 7: in the house, so I so wait.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait that house bus you them here.
Speaker 7: Here's what you got to understand. It's some battles that's
Speaker 7: not worth fighting. And you you gotta know I'm smart
Speaker 7: enough to know that was not a fight that I
Speaker 7: was willing to put out a lot of capital on.
Speaker 2: Okay, but do you have defensive players that you swamp
Speaker 2: jerseys with?
Speaker 7: No, I've got. I swapped. I swapped with Erlacker, his shoes,
Speaker 7: our shoes. Like in the last one of the last
Speaker 7: playoff games, we we traded shoes. So that was pretty unique.
Speaker 7: But it was one of those one time things. I
Speaker 7: didn't do that very often.
Speaker 2: All righty, let's start with your alma mater. What do
Speaker 2: you expect to happen on Monday night.
Speaker 7: I expect to be a very close game. I think
Speaker 7: a lot of people will think it's gonna be a blowouts.
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't see that being the case. I
Speaker 7: think when you look at the teams that Ohio State
Speaker 7: struggled with, the team that had a lot of physicality,
Speaker 7: and I think that's what Notre Dame brings to the table,
Speaker 7: physicality at the point of attack. They're going to run
Speaker 7: the football, They're going to be physical on defense. Now,
Speaker 7: I will say we're at a bit of a disadvantage
Speaker 7: because you know, our best defensive lineman he's he got hurt,
Speaker 7: you know, in the first playoff game, and so we
Speaker 7: don't We're not as strong as we were up front.
Speaker 7: That's a little bit of an issue. But you know,
Speaker 7: we we played them a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 7: you know, back to back years or one and after
Speaker 7: the other, and they were competitive football games, right We
Speaker 7: lost there at the end of both games, and so
Speaker 7: it tells you that we can play with them. That's
Speaker 7: not the issue. The key is we can't give up
Speaker 7: big plays on defense, and we have to create some
Speaker 7: big plays on offense. I don't see us going eighty
Speaker 7: yards down the field every single drive. So we've got
Speaker 7: to open it up offense up a little bit and
Speaker 7: throw it down the field and be successful.
Speaker 2: You're going to the game?
Speaker 7: Yes, definitely. It's in Atlanta, and I live in Atlanta,
Speaker 7: so there's no way I would not be at that one.
Speaker 2: And is your son going to Notre Dame?
Speaker 7: My son is en road, Yes, so he's a he's
Speaker 7: a mid year freshman, so he We literally just dropped
Speaker 7: him off last weekend Notre Dame, so we're real excited
Speaker 7: for him.
Speaker 2: Did you cry when you dropped him off?
Speaker 7: No? I didn't cry when I dropped him off. Fortunately
Speaker 7: for us, his big sister she goes to Notre Dame
Speaker 7: as well, so it gave us a sense of well,
Speaker 7: gave me a sense of comfort knowing that his big
Speaker 7: sister was there on campus. And my wife, on the
Speaker 7: other hand, she left a day or so after me,
Speaker 7: so there was some crying. I do understand.
Speaker 2: Uh. And that apartment he's Jerome bettis Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: running back. The running back is back bus. What happened
Speaker 2: in the NFL, See, let.
Speaker 7: Me tell you what happened it running back never left.
Speaker 7: The problem was you couldn't find those franchise running backs.
Speaker 7: And let me tell you why. So in college they
Speaker 7: changed the game in the sense of they went to
Speaker 7: these four wide receivers, and they went to this smaller
Speaker 7: back so they can go laterally down you know, all
Speaker 7: the running in colleges later it's nothing downhill. So they
Speaker 7: went to little bitty small running backs. The problem is
Speaker 7: the NFL doesn't want little bitty small running backs. They
Speaker 7: still want power football downhill. And at some point you
Speaker 7: couldn't find the running backs right if they're not coming
Speaker 7: from five or six schools, you know, the Georgia's, Alabama's,
Speaker 7: the SEC schools, maybe Wisconsin, Notre Dame every now and
Speaker 7: then maybe at Ohio State or Michigan running back. But
Speaker 7: outside of that, you're not getting running backs from all
Speaker 7: over the country like you used to. And so as
Speaker 7: a result, the NFL had to go to say, you
Speaker 7: know what, we'll figure it out. We'll go with these
Speaker 7: guys who can We'll get four guys who can do
Speaker 7: what one guy could do. And that's what kind of
Speaker 7: happened that and you start having to pay your tight
Speaker 7: end and the second receiver, and that money has to
Speaker 7: come from somewhere. So they say, you know what, since
Speaker 7: we can't find the franchise running back, let's pay these
Speaker 7: other guys and if we find one, great if we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't which running back is more prominent in his
Speaker 2: team's success, Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 7: Oh, that's a good question. That's a great question. I
Speaker 7: would have to say Saquon Barkley because we have seen
Speaker 7: what the Baltimore offense can do without Henry. It's not
Speaker 7: as explosive, but they are darn good without them, right so,
Speaker 7: and they've they've gotten to the same level of success.
Speaker 7: Now when you look at Philly, they're not as good
Speaker 7: as they've been in the past. If you take sat
Speaker 7: Kuon Barkley off of that football team, I don't know
Speaker 7: if they make the playoffs because they're just not clicking
Speaker 7: from a passing game perspective. And so with that being said,
Speaker 7: if you don't have sa Quon Barker there, they don't have.
Speaker 7: I don't think a chance.
Speaker 2: Is Derrick Henry a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7: Not a question about it. He's what he's been able
Speaker 7: to do over the years that he's been able to
Speaker 7: been in the NFL. I believe he's Hall of Fame worthy.
Speaker 7: Uh So, I don't know what that looks like, but
Speaker 7: I do believe he has a all of the characteristics
Speaker 7: if his if his career ended tomorrow, I think he
Speaker 7: definitely would be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with your Steelers? Ah?
Speaker 7: I think they haven't been able to offensively get it
Speaker 7: figured out. They need a second receiver, a big time receiver.
Speaker 7: They don't have one on the other side of George Pickens.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: They've got to figure out about George Pickens in terms
Speaker 7: of can he uh be the player that they need
Speaker 7: him to be right on the field, off the field,
Speaker 7: all those things.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: And so I think they have to sit down with
Speaker 7: him and and and get get that figured out. I
Speaker 7: think also you got to figure out the quarterback position.
Speaker 7: I think Russell is a good quarter back for the time,
Speaker 7: but I think the problem is he's not a long
Speaker 7: term solution to the issue. They have got to figure
Speaker 7: out a long term solution at the quarterback position. And
Speaker 7: a lot of you hear a lot of talking heads
Speaker 7: speaking about the coach and this and that. You in
Speaker 7: the NFL, we've seen this now. This record is not
Speaker 7: you know new if you do not have a quarterback
Speaker 7: in the NFL, you are not going to win in
Speaker 7: the playoffs. That is a That's what we know for sure,
Speaker 7: and right now the Stellers have gone through this window
Speaker 7: of time where they've been trying to figure out the
Speaker 7: quarterback situation and they have failed. They have not gotten
Speaker 7: it right. So I think that's what they got to
Speaker 7: figure out. I think if you put Russell in the
Speaker 7: position where he's got two really good receivers, a really
Speaker 7: good offensive line, a good running back, he can be successful.
Speaker 7: But to ask Russell Wilson to carry this football team
Speaker 7: on his back at the quarterback position, I think it's
Speaker 7: unfair to him at the stage in his career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Bussy, I got to put some of this
Speaker 2: on Mike Tomlin that, yeah, you get to the playoffs,
Speaker 2: he's helping try to get a quarterback. I don't think
Speaker 2: it like he's powerful in that organization. So Mike's involved
Speaker 2: in this. So if you're involved, like you can say,
Speaker 2: we got to get a quarterback, well, I got to blame.
Speaker 2: Put some of the blame on Tomlin that you haven't
Speaker 2: found a quarterback.
Speaker 7: Well, here's what you have to do. If Tomlin was
Speaker 7: picking all the players, I would say, Okay, another piece
Speaker 7: in this puzzle is you have to commit resources, right,
Speaker 7: and so that means you've got to give up a
Speaker 7: couple first round picks. Right. Well, the Steelers, the draft
Speaker 7: is very instrumental in how they build their football team.
Speaker 7: So this is not a head coach decision in terms
Speaker 7: of what they will have to do in terms of
Speaker 7: draft capital to go up and get a quarter Now,
Speaker 7: maybe they haven't seen a quarterback that it's worth you know,
Speaker 7: packaging and mortgaging the future on. And I get that
Speaker 7: that may be the case, but I believe because of
Speaker 7: I mean, they're prisoner of coach tomlins success because they
Speaker 7: don't they have to lose the season. They're picking anywhere
Speaker 7: from eighteen to twenty five to twenty seven. You're not
Speaker 7: going to get a quarterback there, right, And so because
Speaker 7: in the last seventeen years or whatever it is, they
Speaker 7: have been there, that's where they're drafting. So they've got
Speaker 7: to make a fundamental decision on how do we get
Speaker 7: the quarterback in there. The one year when I was
Speaker 7: there that everything fell apart, and I think it was
Speaker 7: probably the only year that we were, you know, under
Speaker 7: five hundred with coach Kywer it was six and ten.
Speaker 7: We got we got Ben that year, right, And so
Speaker 7: you don't get that's the situation you're not able to
Speaker 7: get that quarterback. And so I think at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, there has to be some high level
Speaker 7: discussions on aren't we willing to commit multiple first round
Speaker 7: picks to go get the quarterback that we need. Now
Speaker 7: they're trying to get players that have gone from team
Speaker 7: to team, and for the most part, some of these guys,
Speaker 7: their careers are more behind them than ahead of them, right,
Speaker 7: And you're not going to solve the problem with that
Speaker 7: type of scenario. You can, you can get from year
Speaker 7: to year, but it's not sustainable at the quarterback position.
Speaker 7: And that's the difficult, difficult part of the scenario that
Speaker 7: the stealers are in.
Speaker 2: It's Ben Roethlisberger still the best quarterback in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7: That's a good one. No, I definitely don't believe. So
Speaker 7: I know he's still throwing it. He's still throwing it
Speaker 7: to his kids in the backyard, But I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know if we can put him out of
Speaker 7: a target and go for it.
Speaker 2: Uh have fun on Monday night there, and uh good
Speaker 2: to good to catch up with you again, Bussy.
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you man, And you could have had any
Speaker 7: jersey you wanted at that spot you put mine. I'm honored,
Speaker 7: thank you so much. I appreciate you