WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 409 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.600 Welcome to Pod meets Twirld, the podcast from two guys 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.520 who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:18.160 Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.919 now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.159 while will is convinced that he could win it. We 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.440 are Wilfredell and Ryder Strong, two best friends, one a 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.120 TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars, join 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.440 us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.760 and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:44.280 Twirld Trading Places. How are you feeling about episode nine? 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.520 Will Well, First, I'd like to point to the elephant 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.479 in the room. No cloak today, the cloak I just 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.440 I'm wearing it just for me, and that started to 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.880 feel weird if I'm totally Hans with you. Yeah, so 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.400 no cloak pants, but no cloak. So does this means 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.360 you're no longer a trader, You're now a faithful No? 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:05.640 I think it just means that I don't want to 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:10.480 wear the cloak anymore. I'll always be a trader. That's 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.880 just the way it is, all right. I think I 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.920 loved episode nine. By the way, I think it's my 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.000 favorite episode yet. I don't disagree my favorite. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.120 Episode yet And here's why, because I love Eric as 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:22.920 a bad trick. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.880 He's my favorite. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.200 Just dude, I would see what I were doing, the 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.119 impression of him just trying trying to just walk like. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.640 He's not guilty. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.639 Yeah, it's like he's like suddenly going to be holding 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.240 two mugs just to have something to do with his hands. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.480 I I did not realize how entertaining that could be. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.800 We were doing that all day. But it's amazing because 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.679 christ is the only one calling him out for it. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.320 Now it's gonna happen though. He's gonna bomb this so bad. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:51.840 Just see what I was doing. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.720 Things where he's like he's got like the fork and 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.520 he's like there's no food on it and he's putting it, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:56.960 so what are what. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.640 Are you in the k? Hey? Full spell? 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:07.200 Okay, that's happening today everybody. It's so and he's just 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.800 I can't do this, okay me exactly. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.840 That's I'm seeing myself and all of his anxiety. I 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.079 love it so much. And the best quote that starts 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.880 the episode, I need a helmet and an adult diaper 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.920 because I'm gonna ship myself and my head was going 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.760 to elode. I was like, dude, this guy is brilliant. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.000 All of a sudden, he went from this quiet guy 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:31.760 who were like, who kind of is this guy always 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.320 a musician whatever? To now he's my favorite character. And 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.960 so he is a musician, that's what he's known for. Okay, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:38.560 God he's funny. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.240 Geez. I just love watching him. So and and they 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.120 make a perfect combination because Rob is such a pro 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.639 and like when they're just like, we have to kill 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.960 someone tonight, He's like, yeah, it's kind of our job 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.080 and say, wait, tonight we got to do with them. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.600 It's like this, it's like the odd couple have to 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.400 be traders. I love it. Or it's like you you 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.040 have to bring your little brother in. He's like, all right, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.800 come on, put the cloak on. I don't come on, 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.280 put it all the way around. I don't need it 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.560 all the way over your eyes. It's the best dynamic. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.440 I did not know the show needed this, but I 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:07.880 love it. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.160 The only thing missing is him constantly calling him like 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.519 Bud and Chief, like you can do a Chief. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.520 Don't worry, you're doing great, You're doing great. I feel 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.239 like Rob is going to have to just kill Eric. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.400 He's just gonna have to let him die, Like, do 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.200 you think he's he either did the brilliant thing of 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.800 picking them like just a rube who will go along 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.920 because he's basically gonna Rob still running the show. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.000 He's going to decide everything, but now he has a 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.480 buffer against anything to where he can have somebody die 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:33.040 before him. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.080 He's playing it brilliantly. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.840 Okay, maybe just misread Eric and thought Eric would be 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.400 better at this, but maybe you're right. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.720 I think he played it brilliant. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.520 I don't know, but it is just agree. I could 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.520 not disagree. I could not agree with you more. This 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.840 was so fun and just watching him, I was like, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.880 oh that's writer. But they just made a trader yep, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.640 and oh god, it's great. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.360 So the two of them are in the turret. He's 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.360 got his cloak fitted out for him, and the three 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.400 names they throw out or are Derinda, Natalie, and Steven, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.840 and uh, you know. Rob says that he picked Eric 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.040 because he's intelligent and that he thinks logically, which is true. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.800 I mean that Eric does seem to you know, I 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.560 think more like you were thinking, like he knew that 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.719 Eric might be bad. At being a trader, and he 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.360 just went for him to have a roube, like somebody 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.000 to pull along and throw under the bus when he 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.040 needs to. I love it all Right, Breakfast, Kristen comes 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.039 in with Mark and Rob immediately saying we need to talk. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:31.760 We need to talk. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.400 One of the other things I love about the show 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.800 is every time anyone is with Rob, they're like, Okay, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.799 you're the only one I can trust one hundred percent. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:41.200 I know. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.400 It's like no one has an inkling. Not an inkling. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.760 It's not an inkling. It's incredible how he's doing it. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.680 But he's like, Okay, you're the only one of one 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.200 hundred percent you're on. It's Tara. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.520 It's he's just got a low key like, you know, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.119 he's just got the right vibe, like he just doesn't 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.360 seem villainous. He doesn't seem like he conniving or you know, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.520 I don't know, like I mean, he said it out 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.000 of one episode he's like, I just come across like 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.840 a dumb Southern boy. I think that's true. I think 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.760 he's just just doesn't read as much more than like 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.160 a pretty guy. And they're feeling for it. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.320 Really nice and as somebody else said, they're like, he's 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.000 great in the challenges. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.600 You know, he's got the muscles to help us. It's 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:25.480 so awesome. So it's pointed out. I guess what Christian's 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.279 pointing out is that Candace pushed Johnny for the shield, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.800 and since Candace Will turned out to be a trader, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.000 this is a good and reason to believe that Johnny 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.200 is a trader, which is not a bad argument. And 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.599 again it's logic, it's based on evidence. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.480 And because of all the paranoia, it adds a whole 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:50.359 nother level of Oh god, whoever I'm friends with also matters, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.400 because if one of them turns out to be a trader, 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.000 then I'm tainted too, right, And so here's Johnny, like, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.400 she's the lesson. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.360 That this is that Tara and Johnny did not learn 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.680 this lesson, gonna completely screw them because that's exactly what 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.640 you basically watch happened in the course of this episode. Yes, 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.760 like you guys, don't. You can't just do that. You 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.200 can't just cling to any because you're friends with them, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:17.320 all right. So Eric comes in with Tara. He can't. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.760 Even when he's doing his his interview about walking him 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.120 to breakfast, he says, it's my first breakfast. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:32.560 Has ting is so nervous, this reluctant, killer good, automatically awkward. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.719 Yes, yeah, it's just like it's Steve as Shemi with 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.159 a baseball hat, right, like hey fellows high schoolers. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:40.359 So just. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.240 All right, Johnny enter Uh, Johnny has this great thing 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.440 about talking about how he was he trusted Candace and 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.279 he was like a blanket. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.360 For her, and he's just true. He's exactly ex right, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.039 and he should be aware now that you know, or 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:58.120 he is, that it's coming. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.599 It's turning on him. But like, why do you you 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.560 know you can't trust anybody, including terror. I can't believe 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.080 it's trusted. But again, so here's the thing though, and 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.720 because I was thinking about this, if you and I 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.680 went onto the show together and we looked at each 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.280 other beforehand, as we would, and we were like, no 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.680 matter what happens, we're gonna be honest with each other, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.680 even if it means I have to. It's like I'll 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.760 give you a wink, I'll give you a nod. We're 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:22.320 gonna something. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.200 We got to figure it and not trust it. I 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.880 would not trust it, no, because that's an even trust me. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.920 I would totally trust you. I would totally trust you. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.760 Because you know me because I'm horrible at nine, not 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.640 because because like I wouldn't judge you for lying to 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.600 my face in the context of the game. That's hard 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.080 way to the game. Oh, I get it, but it 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:41.720 would be so old. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.800 What are you going to do ruin the whole TV 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.320 show that we're on and all the producers by saying 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.000 that you know I'm actually a trader? 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:49.480 No, we would have, we would. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.880 There's got to be I mean again, it would be 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.320 so hard with these two people who are best friends 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.720 for fifteen years or however long it's been twenty years 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.239 for them not to be like, we're in this together 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.280 till the end and then lie to one of their 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:02.280 faces the entire time. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.280 It'd be that's exactly what they would do. Think about it, 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.400 if if Johnny had been day, if either one of 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.240 them had been picked by as a trader, which they 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.480 probably partly wanted to because you know, being a traders 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.800 that I think the more fun role in this game 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.760 probably that then you would have to know that you're 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.600 gonna have to lie to that person unless you both 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.400 get picked as traders together, which is never gonna happen. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.880 So to have that sort of packed going into this 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.680 game is just stupid, I guess. And it's pointed out 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.160 to them at the round table when they say it, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:34.199 when they revealed their pack, everybody's like, well, we can't. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.680 You can't trust that, Like that's anti the game. So 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.920 you can say that all you want, but that just 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.800 means that you're either both faithfulls or both traders, or 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.920 one of you is lying to you and like we're 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.760 gonna it doesn't help, It's not doesn't bolster your argument, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.520 like I would know if he were a trader. No, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.880 you wouldn't, I guess. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.320 Also, keeping the secret is kind of what would would 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.000 be ridiculous, like when they when they walked in and 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.680 they're like, we're gonna not let anybody know that we're friends. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:08:59.360 It's gonna be kind. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.360 It's like that in itself is a detriment because the 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.760 easiest part of being a faithful is you don't have 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.120 to lie right about anything ever. You don't have to 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.000 remember what you said, you don't have to be careful 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.840 about speaking, you don't have to misstep everything you say. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.760 It's like I can just live my life and try 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.400 to find So if you come in already with a lie, 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.640 and now you're looking at the two of them going, well, 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.640 wait a minute, you were best friends and you specifically 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:21.679 tried to keep that from us. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.680 Why why, what's the benefit? Why would you have a 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.680 lie like that? The only thing is like backchannel information 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.160 if one of them is suspected. But like you said, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.160 if you're just an open book, just be an open book. Yeah, 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.760 just be like we're best friends and like, yeah. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.160 Yeah, just letting you know we're best friends right now. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.840 If you see us commiserating, we've been besties for fifteen years. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.319 Yep. We're going to trust one another and you all 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.760 need to know that and take the information into account 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.880 when we're trying to tell you that we're faithfuls or whatever. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.679 I mean, that's like, it's where they ended up. It's 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.240 you know, where they've ended up. They probably should have 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.680 just started and started with, right, because now they look shady. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:55.960 Yeah exactly. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:10.440 Yeah. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.760 Well, Natalie and Steven then entered breakfast, revealing that Dorinda 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:21.240 has been murdered, and we get a turret flashback where 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.920 Rob argues for Dorinda. He is clearly just still making 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:25.800 all the decisions. Yep. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.080 Eric goes, huh, that's a good idea. Yeah, sure, boss, 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.120 great idea of boss. Hey you're doing great, Pal, you're 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:33.720 doing great. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.760 Okay. Then Alan enters, this time looking like my grandmother's 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:42.080 Christmas plates. Very specifically, he looked like a chandelier. But 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.200 I think right, it's the pattern. I actually think it 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.360 was more like a Japanese sort of like drop painting, 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.040 like one of those like uh. But but for whatever reason, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.360 it's the right color for exactly the Christmas the plates 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.480 I still have, because you know, my grandmother passed away 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.560 and I have her Christmas place. They are exactly this color. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.440 Was his hair? Was he going for red, white and blue? 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:06.720 It's pink, blue and white. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:07.920 I mean, was it supposed to be about or was 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.400 this just a random let's make it red, let's make 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.520 it It might have been Scottish flags which were orange. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.839 That's orange and blue? Is that what it was? 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:16.240 Orange? 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:21.439 White and blue is a Scottish flag if I'm correct? Yeah? Orange? 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.520 ORANGEE do my head up? Orange? All right? So after breakfast, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.520 Johnny and Tara powwow. She tells him that everyone's talking 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.240 about him. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.920 Johnny has this little speech to camera. He's like, we're 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.199 not good at this game because we didn't play a game. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.520 We went to the Olympics when we were kids, which 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.920 is super interesting, kind of true, but I just love 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.320 that he's like, Okay, we suck. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.400 Like the two of them are just realizing they're really terrible. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.120 And figure skaters and Olympians they start at like three, right, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.439 you know these people are on skates before they really 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.320 knew how to walk. So he's right, it's like we 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.559 weren't playing games, we were Olympians. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:00.959 Totally. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:01.800 Yeah. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.040 So Johnny says that he saw Stephen and Candace talking 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.600 the day before, which is true, and I clocked that 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.000 when it happened, I was like, because they literally kicked 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.800 Johnny out of the room and I was like, it's 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.040 a really bad move Candace. Yeah, and then the fact 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.000 that she did turn so good reason to suspect Steven. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:18.120 That's why. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.319 So how do you play that You're you're in the 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.319 room and you're talking to somebody, and somebody else walks 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.000 in and they go, hey, can we just have a minute. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.319 I might be like, no, actually, why don't you. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.199 Have them join us so we don't look like because 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.640 if that person I'm sitting with turns out to be 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:32.160 a trader. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.600 I'm done right. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.800 So it's like it almost seems to me like you 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.080 don't want to be in that situation of kicking someone 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.560 out of a room or hey, can you give us 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.480 a minute, Like let's not do that. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.280 Yeah, because there shouldn't be any secrets. Yeah, I mean, 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.959 what do you need to know? Johnny should have known 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.800 the second he was kicked on the room that either 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.040 one of them is a trader, both of them are traders, 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.320 or he's being suspected Johnny is, in which case, don't 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.520 leave nothing. He's coming from that. No no, yeah, like 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.120 there's no good Like you just shouldn't walk away from 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.480 a room, just be like, no, I'm staying. Ar'm invited 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.080 everybody in here and we can all talk it out exactly, yeah, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.760 which is kind of what Michael was trying to do 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.040 all the time. I feel like Rapperport was all constantly 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.720 like confronting and like bring everybody, which is annoying, but 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.240 it's also kind of the only way to play because 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.680 by by whispering and having sidebars with people, it doesn't 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:21.440 seem to work. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.080 I and I've said this, I said this last episode. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:24.720 I'm saying it again. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.800 It seems like eight months ago since he and Ron 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.800 and even Jam Jam we're on the show. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.240 I just it seems forever ago. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.080 It is a complete do you realize in the in 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.480 the sense of shooting Michael Rappaport was there three days 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.080 ago or four days ago, was literally in the castle, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.960 And it just it's so funny. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:47.000 Every day of house spoken, so their brains are just scrambled. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.280 You're constantly like paranoid and second guessing yourself. But then 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.160 I loved this moment where Maura, Rob and Eric are 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.240 talking and Eric is just describing Rob as an eagle 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.440 worried about the game. It's like he's just sitting on 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:08.199 the couch. It's like sleeveless arms, which by the way, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.480 have snakes on them. Yeah, like as if it's like 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.040 he's like, it's literally like he's a snake. You know. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.520 He reminds me of like a G. I. Joe character 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.560 that's like actually Cobra, So he bought him as a 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.120 G I. Joe, Like, oh my god, and then he 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.400 turns out to be bad like zar Can. It's like, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.880 oh my god, he's yes. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.040 I love the difference between the of them. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.520 You can just tell Eric is like heart racing and 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.720 just like cool cool looking at. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.640 Eric, like waiting for him to screw it up. It 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:36.680 is just but him. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.880 Eric, just he's such a deer in the headlights and 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.240 it is so fun to watch. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.600 And then Tara and Kristen have this moment where Tara 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.240 tries to get her on the Stephen bandwagon and Kristen 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.360 just looks at Terrences I think it's you, which is 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.280 bad ass. I was kind of every single cool man 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.560 so awesome. She's really yeah, she's cool and and she's 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.080 just not afraid. And you know, also she does the 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.760 same thing to Eric at the end of this episode, 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.080 which is pretty impressive. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.240 And oh and just the way she covers herself too, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.120 where she's like, so if I'm not here tomorrow, if 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:13.640 I get yss, it's Eric. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.040 It's like, yes, oh you've. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.960 Just saved You're so smart, Yes, you just saved yourself. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.160 If you have an opinion, you tell it to the 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:21.680 person you have it to, and you tell it to 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.480 everybody else. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.400 And that's just out in the open. And then when 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.160 you come up at roundtable, you're not being duplicitous, because 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.400 that's the thing, like, if you're being duplicitous at all 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.160 in this game, if you're saying one thing to somebody's 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.240 face and doing something else, it's gonna come out at roundtable, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.160 and invariably that's going to backfire on you. So I 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.200 think you're right, man. The best strategy is to just 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.480 be us upfront with everybody all the time. Deny. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.160 You get people that deny things they said right, like, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.600 but you you're faithful. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:47.840 And you're denying. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.440 You said something like that, Just why yes, I said that? 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.800 That's so weird? All right? Then we get this mission 0:15:54.520 --> 0:16:00.360 with these boxes and questions. Uh, this is his ericle 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.680 that Eric has to sneak out of a box like 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.720 the first time, Like, right, do you think they added 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:11.840 the freaks? And if it was creaking that loud you 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.680 would even try? You just feel like, no, I'm just 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.600 letting not gonna. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:14.800 Oh. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.320 I was like, okay, they're foldying a lot of this 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:23.600 or oh I thought this was probably the best challenge. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.720 I mean, I loved the cabin challenges just for their 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.480 set pieces and the like horror film stuff, but this 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.440 one actually made some sense in that it reminded me 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.360 a lot of the game Mafia when you play it 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.720 at home, where everyone puts their head down. I've never 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.360 never played. Okay, so the way you play Mafia or 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.480 Werewolf is the other version. Everybody closes their eyes and 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.520 puts their head down, and then there's like a game 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.880 master or whatever says will the killers open their eyes 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.760 and so while your head isn't down on the table, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.200 if you're like an innocent victim, all the killers are 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.200 looking at each other and signaling like so you have 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.640 to do it basically, have to do it right in 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.960 front of each other, just like this where they have 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.119 to like get out of their box, walk into an 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.960 area and talk. I thought that was like it was 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.160 kind of getting back to the roots of these kinds 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.520 of games, which is you have to do it right 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.200 in front of them. Yeah, that's super fun, super fun. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.240 But then it didn't really work because they could just 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.200 make up their answers like it didn't like, well, yeah 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:20.919 I didn't. I kind of. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.160 I thought it was kind of genius to just pick 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.320 on one person essentially, right, because it's just just it 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:31.560 completely destabilizes anybody's predictions. It's super smart, and they sacrifice 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.840 the money too, which was I think, whopping eighty three 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.120 hundred se Well, but this is the. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.000 Problem is that the money is not enough of an 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.760 incentive these challenges incentive. The only way the challenges have 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.879 gotten exciting as far as rewards is the dagger and 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.080 shield stuff. Yeah, so they really should only be playing 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.000 with that. This whole idea of increasing the money when 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.359 you're talking about celebrities who are probably all worth millions 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.600 of dollars, Like, I just don't think it matters if 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.040 they made eight thousand more dollars or whatever. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.800 It's a and you think about it too, if you 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.720 won some kind of clue to who the traders were, Yes, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.240 it would add another level because that's brilliant, man, because 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.600 if you think about it, if the person who rushes 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.320 there could be a trader who doesn't want the information 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:17.120 out or could want the information to find out who 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.520