Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast builds through the Draft. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined my
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Connor Or and Greg Roles.
Speaker 1: It thought, what's up, boys, what's happening? Let this happening
Speaker 1: at listed in order of importance. That means I said
Speaker 1: in first. So I'm feeling good about that. Uh. This
Speaker 1: is are Round one Extravaganza post Round one of the
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen NFL Draft, which occurred tonight in Chicago
Speaker 1: at the Auditorium Theater. Um. You know, a lot to
Speaker 1: unpack is that's a that's a term to use when
Speaker 1: you want to, you know, unpack an event because there's
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, and there is. Thirty two
Speaker 1: picks were made today. Dan is giddy and goofy right
Speaker 1: now with the late Long day. I love Itabah and
Speaker 1: I Connor or here. I mean, how many times has
Speaker 1: Connor been in the studio with us? Twice? Oh man?
Speaker 1: And we got the gold standard behind the glass. Who
Speaker 1: is Uh, he's a little frazzled right now. He's got
Speaker 1: his head set on it. He's I've never seen Gold standing.
Speaker 1: We went through six different tribes from five lines right now,
Speaker 1: I think can hear us right smoke, So everybody knows
Speaker 1: like it took a little extra time to get going today,
Speaker 1: and um, you know Chris Westling and Kevin Patrick in
Speaker 1: Chicago for the draft somehow. You know, we're doing a
Speaker 1: test to make sure they're on the line. Now, Zach
Speaker 1: can't hang up the phone. They they they're remaining on
Speaker 1: the line, and it's almost like they're trapped in like
Speaker 1: a really bad like Ashton cut Er horror movie. It's
Speaker 1: like they wanted to get off the line, but the
Speaker 1: line would have let them. They're stuck in shy down.
Speaker 1: Uh So anyway, all right, so that is the state
Speaker 1: just as we're gonna talk about, you know, the only
Speaker 1: podcast in the game, folks, that we go right upstairs
Speaker 1: after a long day of work and we unpack round
Speaker 1: one and hopefully by the end of the show, the
Speaker 1: Gold Center does not have a nervous breakdown, because that
Speaker 1: would be bad. This is his second to last show
Speaker 1: with us before moving on to greater things. Feeling very
Speaker 1: fragile right now. You're a you're a powder keg right now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's older. We're gonna go through the first round.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get the guys on the line, or they're
Speaker 1: probably stuck on the line. Cut your style right now.
Speaker 1: We'll eventually talk to them, maybe hear them crying or something. Uh,
Speaker 1: so we'll look forward to that. So why don't we
Speaker 1: just let's get into it. And I figured the Greg
Speaker 1: will will start with you, the boss. You know, you
Speaker 1: have a lot of great insight on the world of
Speaker 1: professional football. At the top of this draft. Uh, nobody
Speaker 1: was surprised Jamis wins the number one, but number two
Speaker 1: after all this talk, Marcus Mariotta stays with the number
Speaker 1: two pick with the Tennessee Titans. They move forward with Mariota.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't say Titoons because they're
Speaker 1: the Titans, because they're back on the grid. Wow, and
Speaker 1: we have to apologize. You know, I thought this whole time,
Speaker 1: they're just puffing up Mariotta, puffing up that number two
Speaker 1: spots to get the Godfather offers. And you know what
Speaker 1: they got them. I mean, the Browns are offering two
Speaker 1: first round picks plus more. The Eagles are offering Fletcher Cox,
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks, a couple of Chip Kelly's illegitimate children two
Speaker 1: first round picks or whatever. Genius Wilson and the Jets
Speaker 1: might have been in play in the sixth pick. That
Speaker 1: maybe that was a rumor, but they clearly they were
Speaker 1: taking phone calls and weighing what what would work and
Speaker 1: what would it work, and in the end they made,
Speaker 1: to me, which was the right move. They decided, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take this guy that's supposed to be potentially a
Speaker 1: star quarterback for a decade plus. And they're back on
Speaker 1: the map now. I mean they really are with and
Speaker 1: they're clear about it. They said, immediately forget this Mettenburger nonsense.
Speaker 1: That was the only bs that they were uh, you know,
Speaker 1: shovel in the last few weeks, Mariotta. They expect to
Speaker 1: start day one and that's it. They're not trading. Hum nothing.
Speaker 1: Did I see on Twitter that Mettenburger's agents are already
Speaker 1: chirping that demanding a trade. That then, does he remember
Speaker 1: that he was a sixth round pick, he barely got
Speaker 1: drafted last year. Well, I can understand that. Why there
Speaker 1: might be a few hurt feelings if you're metten Burger.
Speaker 1: After they spent the last three months crowing about this,
Speaker 1: but that's life. And he went through all that trouble
Speaker 1: of organizing all those team workouts by himself, those practices.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Mark Sanchez, Jet West Camp so
Speaker 1: Southern California. So if you're the Titans, you would rather
Speaker 1: have Gunn or would you rather have Mariota or would
Speaker 1: you rather have Fletcher Cox? You know, Brandon Boy and
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks in two first round picks. I think it depends,
Speaker 1: like do I know how to use them? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like if if I'm like I didn't
Speaker 1: like hearing Ken Wisenhunt say like, oh well we worked
Speaker 1: him out under center, and like he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: fit into our system, and I think you have to
Speaker 1: you have to know how to like It's it's like
Speaker 1: buying a really expensive sports car that you don't know
Speaker 1: how to drive. And if you don't, then take the picks.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest with the Hunt doesn't have the greatest
Speaker 1: track record working with anything but Hall of Fame quarterback talent.
Speaker 1: Maybe Mariotto would be that good. Well, but you're right though,
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't. I think when he's got that Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner type guy or a big bend. He's his offense
Speaker 1: is very functional and he's he's he's rolling. But does
Speaker 1: he strike you as the most innovative and creative schemer
Speaker 1: that can set up an offense? That's exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a tough quarterback to just plug in
Speaker 1: and say, we know how this is gonna look. They
Speaker 1: have a quarterbacks coach from Scranton, though, so I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about it. Scranton's own Connor or one of the
Speaker 1: most famous people from Scranton side of Jim and Pam.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, now that the office is kind
Speaker 1: of fading a little bit from the cultural uh A
Speaker 1: state of mind, it's now Connor's time to rise up
Speaker 1: and be the most famous. Meet Kevin White, Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton once a year. Plus we get Mariota week one,
Speaker 1: and you know that Titans bucks assignments a little interesting.
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys don't want I'll give it to myself
Speaker 1: beat myself. So yeah, that, I mean, that was the
Speaker 1: big thing, uh in the second pick there that that
Speaker 1: was exciting. And now let me just take a look
Speaker 1: at the rest of the top five. Why don't we
Speaker 1: take a look at it. Uh, Dante Fowler Jr. Went
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars, the defensive end out of Florida. That was,
Speaker 1: you know, filled a need for them, hard to get
Speaker 1: on them. Uh. Some people thought they would go get
Speaker 1: a wide receiver to give Blake Bortles more weapons. Instead
Speaker 1: they go with the defender Oakland Raiders. They jump and say, hey,
Speaker 1: give us a Mari Cooper, Uh, the wide out out
Speaker 1: of Alabama. So let's let's go with those two picks.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about those? I think with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, you know, they were six in the league
Speaker 1: in sacks last year. You know their defense was for
Speaker 1: stretches horrendous. But you're starting to see more and more
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley type guys there and the excuses are starting
Speaker 1: to run out if you can't win some games with
Speaker 1: your defense, and it's time to do that. I think Fouler,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we let's not pretend that we've
Speaker 1: watched of Fowler tape Bend the Edge. I don't know
Speaker 1: in the Raiders picked which sorry Cooper has the highest
Speaker 1: rating of any player from NFL dot Com. Was that
Speaker 1: one of all the pass rushers that seemingly didn't have
Speaker 1: some big black mark against him recently, whether it was
Speaker 1: an arrast or psychological evaluation or didn't really produce. So
Speaker 1: he was the one guy that everyone agreed on was
Speaker 1: the guy Jacksonville. I mean that defense could be pretty fun,
Speaker 1: pretty good, little mini legion of boom. I was surprised
Speaker 1: that Oakland didn't take Leonard Williams. That just seemed like
Speaker 1: he really wanted to be taken by the Raiders. He's
Speaker 1: a Raiders fan. USC A lot of people at him
Speaker 1: as the best player in the draft, and then they
Speaker 1: go for receiver, feeling like, you know, they got to
Speaker 1: justify their Derek Carr pick. But I'm not sure. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him getting what could be,
Speaker 1: you know, an absolutely difference making wide out they haven't
Speaker 1: had that. He's supposed to be real good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that move. This just makes me no. I like
Speaker 1: how you described that. What I said, he's supposed to
Speaker 1: be real good. That's probably accurate. Him and Crabtree, you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're looking a little different. Ja James Jones, Andre Holmes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You you bring up Brandon Leonard Williams,
Speaker 1: who you know once he fell to five, everyone said, oh,
Speaker 1: the Redskins are in a great spot. And then this
Speaker 1: was the kind of the first big curve all of
Speaker 1: the draft, because here comes the Redskins to the podium
Speaker 1: and what are they announced? They take the guard out
Speaker 1: of Iowa Brandon Sheriff, who was a top ten pick
Speaker 1: on a lot of mox. A lot of people saw
Speaker 1: him going to the Giant, so it's not like it's
Speaker 1: a crazy reach necessarily, but people are in love with
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and believe he was a lot of people
Speaker 1: think this guy is the best player in this draft.
Speaker 1: So when my New York Jets came up in the
Speaker 1: next pick, I was feeling good. I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I know, we got Mo Wilkerson there. I know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're pretty We're stocked on that defensive line.
Speaker 1: But just don't trade it. Just take the best guy.
Speaker 1: And they always missed the stuff up, so maybe they did.
Speaker 1: But when they did take Leonard Williams was six, I
Speaker 1: was pumped up. Greg think about this, how about this.
Speaker 1: You got a little Mo Wilkerson, you got a little Snacks.
Speaker 1: I love Sheldon Richardson all come after Tommy Brady who
Speaker 1: can barely move. He's almost four years old. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, it's gonna be a blood bath. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna take a lay for super in the past, my friends. Now,
Speaker 1: I love when teams stacked strength on strength, on strength
Speaker 1: on strength, and just like take that. That's how you
Speaker 1: should do it. So that they're so impossible to deal with.
Speaker 1: It will make up for the fact that they haven't
Speaker 1: had a quarterback in thirty years. Well, one of the
Speaker 1: most enjoyable aspects of this day. And I'm I'm being
Speaker 1: genuine about this because Dan, as a Jets fan, has
Speaker 1: struggled through and suffered through a lot of nonsense, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it's come directly by their own mistakes
Speaker 1: and choices. This with what the tape we watched this week,
Speaker 1: we were writing back and forth about Leonard Williams that
Speaker 1: this guy is a badass in New York has him,
Speaker 1: and it is an issue for the Patriots because Buffalo's
Speaker 1: defense and that Jets frontline is going to be a
Speaker 1: major headache to deal with. Cleveland plays him in Week one,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have twelve yards rushing. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: you have Mo Wilkerson. Now, Rich the MENI of espn
Speaker 1: uh shortly after the move, rep ordered via source of
Speaker 1: the Jets might look to trade Wilkerson now, so I
Speaker 1: don't know that that to me, if if if it
Speaker 1: comes down to it and they have to move him
Speaker 1: because he's not happy or now he doesn't fit in,
Speaker 1: that maybe will sour a little bit to me. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see if they could try to make it
Speaker 1: work and make something happen here. I know, Connor, you come.
Speaker 1: I mean, you covered the Jets beat writer. You've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of what we're talking about happened. But the
Speaker 1: new front office and coaching staff. Something seems different now totally,
Speaker 1: especially once you got rid of John, you know, and
Speaker 1: it seems so far away. The glacial does miles away
Speaker 1: from the ship. It's crazy, though, I mean, like like
Speaker 1: you and I were saying before, like the Jets could
Speaker 1: legitimately play like a five to defense, like a throwback
Speaker 1: like mid nineties era college defense with like all those
Speaker 1: guys out there. It's just insane. Think it's a good
Speaker 1: thing that Scott mcgluwen, the Redskins GM has a great
Speaker 1: track record of just being right and gutsy with his
Speaker 1: picks because for him in his first spot in Washington
Speaker 1: at number five to go with Brandon Schurf, who they're
Speaker 1: going to play at right tackle. So you're drafting a
Speaker 1: right right tackle with the number five pick, when Leonard
Speaker 1: Williams is on the board, Kevin White's on the board,
Speaker 1: you know, Danny Shelton. There's a lot of ways they
Speaker 1: could have gone. Instead, they go with the Iowa offensive
Speaker 1: lineman that comes out every year and goes into the
Speaker 1: league and is always solid, but doesn't feel like he's
Speaker 1: gonna suddenly change your franchise. And how about Rex Ryan,
Speaker 1: who you know we talked about. When you know he
Speaker 1: gets canned without a defense, they go and they rebuild
Speaker 1: and bring back Reeves. Now they bring back this guy
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be once in a decade defensive lineman potentially. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many lambs got thrown against the wall today? There's
Speaker 1: a lot of lamps busted in the western New York area.
Speaker 1: It's well, yes, some actual lambs. It's very it's ugly business.
Speaker 1: We don't want to get into it. Uh. The Ryan
Speaker 1: household in total chaos. So yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 1: always happy with that. That was your head scratching move
Speaker 1: by the way, if you go to NFL dot com
Speaker 1: slash news, you can go see our head scratching moves.
Speaker 1: You you said the Redskins passing on Leonard Williams was
Speaker 1: your head scratch Well, you don't like when you when
Speaker 1: you get a gift? What is it? You don't look
Speaker 1: a gift horse in the mouth. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think that phrase means much anymore. I don't know even
Speaker 1: know what it means. No one knows. But the point
Speaker 1: being is that what I like with the Jets did
Speaker 1: is what the Redskins in is like, whoa, we weren't
Speaker 1: expecting this. This may not be exactly what we were
Speaker 1: looking for, but wait a second, this is a gift
Speaker 1: from the football gods. This guy could be a study.
Speaker 1: The glacier would still be on the clock right now.
Speaker 1: So I almost think it was like a power move
Speaker 1: in a way, because if you're a new general manager
Speaker 1: and you know everyone's looking at you, and that's how
Speaker 1: you're like that, that's that's how your board stacks, you
Speaker 1: can all of a sudden panic and go away from
Speaker 1: the way that you saw the draft going. And so
Speaker 1: I think for you know, for the for the Redskins,
Speaker 1: new GM it's like, well, he's there and he's our guy,
Speaker 1: and we're not deviating from it because you don't want
Speaker 1: to appear weak in front of the pack. Pack leader
Speaker 1: Greg brought up the piece we have up NFL dot
Speaker 1: com slash the NFL you can find what our potentially
Speaker 1: franchise altering moves. I think that uh connor ore is
Speaker 1: rubbing his hands together, so I would love to hear
Speaker 1: what you have to say. Well, my my franchise altering
Speaker 1: move was Eric Flowers to the Giants at number nine.
Speaker 1: You want to make flowers. That's the best thing about
Speaker 1: this draft. By the way, we got to back the
Speaker 1: flower drop and I still had a Brandon still in
Speaker 1: the mix, but now we could double down on it.
Speaker 1: Isn't like around the NFL franchise altering because now we
Speaker 1: can do this bit for an extra five years or
Speaker 1: I want to make flowers. I'm just thinking of you guys.
Speaker 1: You know, good job by the Twitter followers. Within ten
Speaker 1: seconds of Flowers being drafted, we had ten you want
Speaker 1: to make flowers jokes, different variations. Some of you got
Speaker 1: very creative. I love that people are brilliant. Wait, that's
Speaker 1: it insane, pick though, Really, Eric Flowers is the franchise
Speaker 1: altering pick. Why yeah, when is the last time the
Speaker 1: Giants have had like a dependable, power, powerful left tackle.
Speaker 1: And what what he allows you to do is you
Speaker 1: can take Justin Pugh and move him inside to guard
Speaker 1: where he's naturally going to play. You can play Western
Speaker 1: Richburg at center where he's supposed to play. Now, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have two first round picks in
Speaker 1: a second round pick on your offensive line, and it
Speaker 1: gives you a lot of flexibility. Eli Manning is going
Speaker 1: to sign another deal. You gotta keep him healthy until
Speaker 1: he's forty. What don't forget? Connor War this week wrote
Speaker 1: a piece on redrafting last year's lineman. He knows what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. I feel like taking by the relative
Speaker 1: no name offensive lineman is exactly what the Giants always do.
Speaker 1: That's kind of their move. It works a lot, but
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they do. What mark is two
Speaker 1: coordinators in this league. The voice of the coordinator that
Speaker 1: is Connor Or when it comes to you know, grunts
Speaker 1: in the trenches. I believe I just I believe in it.
Speaker 1: I give them the eloquent form. We are left guard
Speaker 1: or a right guard just everywhere, you know. I was
Speaker 1: like Joel Betonio, just where wherever anyone needed me on
Speaker 1: a football team. Yeah yeah, you're not a big man, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you you had a lot of heart. Just yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like Rudy without ever play Mark, Well, what's
Speaker 1: your franchise altering that? This one's easy for me. I.
Speaker 1: I looked at the St. Louis Rams and a team
Speaker 1: that has had no identity on offense. You know, even
Speaker 1: with you get your pass on Sam brad for you
Speaker 1: move him down, you're bringing Nick Foles, that still doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to change much. Then you go and draft Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: I almost wanted them to clown the entire NFL community
Speaker 1: by taking a defensive tackle because they'd have forty two
Speaker 1: of them at this point. But Gurley, come on, that's
Speaker 1: that entire offense changes. I think Trey Mason is was
Speaker 1: a really interesting runner last year and he still could
Speaker 1: be a big part of that offense. Zack Stacy might
Speaker 1: be looking for a new job soon, but I think
Speaker 1: Gurley if he ends up being what they say, the
Speaker 1: Rams have dealt with this in the NFC West with
Speaker 1: Frank Gore and Marshawn Lynch. Now they have their guy.
Speaker 1: They're built in the form of those offenses. If this works,
Speaker 1: I like it. I love it sticking behind Greg Robinson
Speaker 1: and just let him go. There you go. I mean
Speaker 1: that that's the most fun young backfield in the league.
Speaker 1: And he was reportedly, and it is from our own
Speaker 1: our beer, the number one, the number one player on
Speaker 1: the Rams draft board. And we heard going into the draft.
Speaker 1: I think it must have been from Beer, maybe from
Speaker 1: Ian too, that he was number one on one team's board.
Speaker 1: That's how much one team liked him. And we find
Speaker 1: out that team is the St. Louis Rams. And if
Speaker 1: you don't have a a quarterback, and they don't know
Speaker 1: if they have one with Nick Foles, you know, the
Speaker 1: best you can do is have the best posts fresh
Speaker 1: possible and you get some explosion at wherever you can
Speaker 1: get it. And in this draft for them, Kevin White's
Speaker 1: already off the board. They get it at running back.
Speaker 1: Dan's making a face like he has to take a
Speaker 1: dump or something. That's crude. First of all, Gregory, but
Speaker 1: I'll just say that it is a little too neat
Speaker 1: and buttoned up, less need up. Everything's always painted perfectly
Speaker 1: with less needs love drafts towards just like and now
Speaker 1: of course, because it has to be this way. It's
Speaker 1: not good enough that he got the next Bo Jackson
Speaker 1: in the backfield. It has to be the word leaks
Speaker 1: out that they they're the number one guy on their board.
Speaker 1: Was wait for everyone does say that Todd Gurley less
Speaker 1: need genius with beautiful hair. And I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with them as a man. Oh I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just sometimes these narratives about Less are
Speaker 1: a little overwhelming for me. The whole, the whole number
Speaker 1: one in our draft. That that's like Chip Kelly saying
Speaker 1: this year, the oh well, Odell Beckham was the number
Speaker 1: one player on my board, Like how easy is that
Speaker 1: to say? It's like without showing anyone the board. This
Speaker 1: Gurly pick. Though a couple of trends came with this one.
Speaker 1: One is a c L injuries. It's not really killing
Speaker 1: people's draft stock anymore. I mean, how much higher could
Speaker 1: have he gone? Maybe he would have been in the
Speaker 1: top five, It's very possible, but it didn't hurt him
Speaker 1: that much. And then too, you know a little bit
Speaker 1: of return in the NFL this offseason. To the love
Speaker 1: of the running back. Like the Chargers trade up just
Speaker 1: two picks, but they give up two mid round picks
Speaker 1: to move up and take Melvin Gordon number fifteen. Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley goes number ten. These are two guys that can
Speaker 1: be three down backs. And that's on the heels of
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy getting paid, to Marco Murray getting paid and
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson getting paid like a quarterback even though he's
Speaker 1: coming off everything, he's coming off. So yeah, that Gordon
Speaker 1: moved was one of my favorite moves of the round
Speaker 1: because you kept Philip Rivers. They we were told that
Speaker 1: he was officially told he wasn't gonna be traded Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: so he's staying in San Diego. And last year they
Speaker 1: struggled to run the ball and they made they put
Speaker 1: too much on Rivers's plate, and you know that leaves
Speaker 1: them vulnerable. Now you get a guy who could be
Speaker 1: an all pro behind center, behind the quarterback, and now
Speaker 1: you have a chance to really do something on offense
Speaker 1: and be balanced and you and if you think that St.
Speaker 1: Louis has the most interesting backfield, I think that a
Speaker 1: challenger is San Diego. If Gordon pans out, because you've
Speaker 1: got Brandon Oliver, who isn't a lead back necessarily, but
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting plays for him last year. And
Speaker 1: you got Danny Woodhead coming back. And if all goes
Speaker 1: to all goes to hell, you got what's his name
Speaker 1: in there? The other guy with Danny and Donald Brown,
Speaker 1: he can come. And we just talked about Oliver. We
Speaker 1: love I love him. Greg. What was your franchise altering
Speaker 1: move potentially? Well, I haven't even done it because I
Speaker 1: wrote awkward, I'm easy to call me out on mine
Speaker 1: and then not do. I wrote ten big takeaways from
Speaker 1: the round, and you know, we wanted to run up here,
Speaker 1: and I was gonna write right mine after I didn't.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, you know what. I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: up with an answer anyway. Shane Ray, the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: Just just the fact, you know, John Elways so aggressive
Speaker 1: in free agency last year, getting all the defense everything.
Speaker 1: Not as aggressive this year, but he gets really aggressive
Speaker 1: in the draft. He moves up five spots, takes Shane Ray.
Speaker 1: You put Ray a top ten type of pass rusher
Speaker 1: with where and Miller, And that's another team kind of
Speaker 1: like the Jets. They built a big strength on top
Speaker 1: of another strength you know him friendly city knew less. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little little questionable. All right, little let's see what
Speaker 1: happens there. And then you know, Greg, you mentioned the
Speaker 1: counterpart to that post, which is the head scratchers. I
Speaker 1: already uh told you or Greg pointed out that I
Speaker 1: thought the Redskins passing on Leonard Williams Connor. What was
Speaker 1: your head scratcher from the first round? By the way,
Speaker 1: we know all so whatever we're saying is the head scratcher.
Speaker 1: Absolutely that team is doomed. Right, Yes, I say that
Speaker 1: with a straight face. I made Jamis Winston my my,
Speaker 1: whoa hub? Right? I think kinda is getting bold Eric
Speaker 1: Flowers as the sexy pick, and Damis Winston has the
Speaker 1: bone head? Wait, who who's the sexy pick? Eric Flowers.
Speaker 1: I'm just like reeling, I'm jet lagged and like none
Speaker 1: of this makes any say, right, we'll hear you out.
Speaker 1: So I guess if you're if you're comparing quarterbacks head
Speaker 1: to head, why wouldn't you if you said quarterback A
Speaker 1: is more athletic, he threw fewer interceptions, completes more of
Speaker 1: his passes, and it's a cleaner prospect off the field
Speaker 1: then quarterback b I mean, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think it's pretty cut and dry, like,
Speaker 1: why would you wonder about the face of your franchise
Speaker 1: when you could have somebody that is just a better player. Well,
Speaker 1: I would counter that by saying that Winston was viewed
Speaker 1: as a more pro ready quarterback that came from an
Speaker 1: offense where he worked under Senter, a center. Pro style
Speaker 1: offense has all the tools he's I mean to me,
Speaker 1: it sounded like people view him as the better, more
Speaker 1: complete quarterback. See I would say, maybe the one with
Speaker 1: the football intelligence at least it's more readily apparent. Okay,
Speaker 1: but why not figure out what he did an organ
Speaker 1: that works. I mean, Kelly's doing it in the league. Now,
Speaker 1: get somebody in there that can coach him in the
Speaker 1: same way. Put some skill position players around him, let
Speaker 1: him let him rip. Well, sorry, they will be the
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting and you know, you might might might
Speaker 1: be might be right two years from now, who knows,
Speaker 1: but it's like they'll be compared together forever. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look so like when we look back on this and
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers has like never played like I will destroy
Speaker 1: this tape because this is all going to come up
Speaker 1: for it. Lets you're kind of basing it on stats
Speaker 1: in college. It's tough to know what those stats mean.
Speaker 1: It's like if if college stats were huge, like Timmy Chang,
Speaker 1: remember him, Remember Timmy Chang, another from Hawaii, they broke
Speaker 1: every record. And about Cult Brennan, the other Cult McCoy,
Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah, I have to know how much
Speaker 1: those stats matter. It's fine. It's just me, Me and
Speaker 1: Billy Beans, So it's fine. Remember that guy that played
Speaker 1: a tousand in the late nineties, the Jewish Jordans. Tamir
Speaker 1: Goodman guy average like ninety points a game in high school.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, sometimes these stats don't translate. Who
Speaker 1: saw Tamir Goodman reference in our draft? That is? That
Speaker 1: was not a preictable move on your part. Okay, what
Speaker 1: was your head scratcher besides my reference of Tamir Goodman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: besides the Goodman googling him right now? Not it on
Speaker 1: your part. I I um looked at what happened with
Speaker 1: Dallas in Arizona, not making a run for Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: at least one that was obvious that that got the
Speaker 1: job done, and not moving up for Melvin Gordon or
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, especially the Cowboys to me because after losing
Speaker 1: to Marco Murray and what made them finally so successful
Speaker 1: last season. It's a deep it's a deep group of
Speaker 1: running backs. But it's risky, I think at this point,
Speaker 1: after they never really made a pitch for anyone in
Speaker 1: free agency to sit there and say we have Darren
Speaker 1: McFadden and we'll draft someone later in this draft. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's we don't have evidence that they that they
Speaker 1: did or did not try to trade up, but there's
Speaker 1: nothing out there. And for me that was my head scratcher.
Speaker 1: Why not in a more aggressive play from the Cardinals
Speaker 1: or Cowboys to get one of the clear two best backs?
Speaker 1: All right? Since since you brought up the running backs, Wow,
Speaker 1: you know we're playing any right now because we have
Speaker 1: our little sandwich game. Uh go get my lunch, your
Speaker 1: big bosoh and listen, Mark unbelievable start dropping. I think Greg,
Speaker 1: you have it up on the website. You started out eight,
Speaker 1: no today, nine and one right now, go get my
Speaker 1: lunch dot org. That sound drop disturbs me every time.
Speaker 1: Very terry unearthing. A lot of people enjoyed the last
Speaker 1: show because Mark was spitting fire at me just because
Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable, let's face it. But by the way, I
Speaker 1: got you an extra sandwich or two by you know,
Speaker 1: getting rid of some of your silly ones you through
Speaker 1: out there, so you almost owe me all but nine
Speaker 1: one right here, subtly, subtly twist the knife there even
Speaker 1: in this spot. Yeah, I think I think what got me,
Speaker 1: you know, hot on the collar, Greg, was the concept
Speaker 1: that I've never played this game well, and coming out
Speaker 1: of the last one we did, I had a winning
Speaker 1: record and this one speaks for itself up to this point,
Speaker 1: and I would have put it this way. I'm rising
Speaker 1: up the ranks now, Greg, and I had a lesson
Speaker 1: to teach you last time, and that lesson has been talking. Well,
Speaker 1: you're nine in one so far. So if you guys
Speaker 1: are curious, you do have Johnny Manzel getting traded this weekend,
Speaker 1: which is probably not gonna happen. It was four sandwiches
Speaker 1: and that, but you're gonna end up nine and five
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. That's great. I'm at five hundred at
Speaker 1: the moment. West is up a few sandwiches. He's doing well.
Speaker 1: The gold standard I'm sorry Eddie Goldman was made sense.
Speaker 1: That was the perfect pick for the Eddie Goldman was
Speaker 1: not drafted in the first round by an a f
Speaker 1: C team whose mascot is not an animal. I wish
Speaker 1: he was. That would have been a great way for
Speaker 1: you to leave your brother from a different mother. Yea,
Speaker 1: let you down, sad and then Dan, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't need to belabor it, but you are one in
Speaker 1: eight and you could go to one in fourteen very easily.
Speaker 1: My thought on this, the only thing that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I'm truly disappointed about is that
Speaker 1: I got the one. I wanted to just go full
Speaker 1: ham and go oh in sixteen or whatever. Uh one
Speaker 1: and eight? You know, what are you gonna do? And
Speaker 1: then you get that sandwich from Mark so that I
Speaker 1: can give you some of my sandwiches too, because I
Speaker 1: don't even like sandwiches. I'm celebrating this one in eight.
Speaker 1: You know why, because I don't know what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about with this. I've noticed because the same thing happened
Speaker 1: last year at the draft. I bombed that because it's
Speaker 1: really a total crapshoot. And then I get a little
Speaker 1: reckless with my picks and then I clean up and
Speaker 1: I fixed my record when we start talking about the
Speaker 1: NFL again. But I mean it was a disgraceful showing
Speaker 1: there's no coming back. I d the massive onion hanger
Speaker 1: on my last bed, which was uh, Jay Cutler getting
Speaker 1: you know, traded, So you know, I'm I'm screwed basically.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna set the record for a futility And
Speaker 1: you know, it's always good to be you just have
Speaker 1: to buy one of those sandwiches that are like forty
Speaker 1: ft long and barely fittings. I look at myself as
Speaker 1: being the best of being the worst, which is good.
Speaker 1: Something you could have Randy Gregory drafted by the Cardinals
Speaker 1: or Panthers in round two. That could still happen, but
Speaker 1: otherwise you're struggling. And you know what, this this Sessler
Speaker 1: winning is part of a theme for the day because
Speaker 1: while the Jets I think had you know, one of
Speaker 1: the best picks of the draft. I really like the
Speaker 1: Browns picks. We haven't even gotten to that at least.
Speaker 1: I like the first Browns pick, Danny Shelton fall into them.
Speaker 1: You were excited. Well, Connor is also a Browns fan
Speaker 1: and what I think, you know, what we talked about.
Speaker 1: The Shelton pick feels, you know, from what we know today,
Speaker 1: like a home run, barring the concept of him being
Speaker 1: like kidnapped by a van full of Chinese dissidents, which
Speaker 1: that's Cleveland, so that could happen. I think we're in
Speaker 1: good shape. This is a guy you don't have a
Speaker 1: was tackle in a three or four defense. You can't
Speaker 1: stop the run. They were the worst in the league
Speaker 1: of doing that last year. And as for the other pick,
Speaker 1: didn't they draft a nose tackle in the first round
Speaker 1: for a three four defense like a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Well that was Phil Taylor, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's the equal of what Danny Shelton is. The cutest
Speaker 1: part of the day was after the what I thought
Speaker 1: was kind of a head scratching move to to pick
Speaker 1: up a backup center at the first round pick, about
Speaker 1: an hour later, Uh, Mark and kind of have a
Speaker 1: private conversation like, I don't know if I like this pick,
Speaker 1: and well, it actually gives them some depth and they
Speaker 1: could kick him over like you know what, You're right,
Speaker 1: they actually did pretty good with this. It was like
Speaker 1: they were still having that were just we're just sharing
Speaker 1: an ice cream cone. It was great, It was adorable.
Speaker 1: I loved it. When I came upstairs, they were a
Speaker 1: little ahead of us. They were having the same sort
Speaker 1: of little sperits back. Well, it's like, well, I think
Speaker 1: if they moved moved them around, you really have a
Speaker 1: good case of it. You draft a movable chest pa.
Speaker 1: It's good. You gotta know if you have a chance,
Speaker 1: you have a chance to draft a backup center that
Speaker 1: can be there by the time the next GM and
Speaker 1: coach are and this will be terrific. What's scary is
Speaker 1: they're not far from accurate. Our conversation was telling you
Speaker 1: know what, this did smack to me up and I
Speaker 1: thought Shelton exactly for a team at thirty second against
Speaker 1: the run, that guy put him in the middle and
Speaker 1: he caused his havoc. But that pick and of course
Speaker 1: the backup center, to me, it was safe. They had
Speaker 1: a safe. After they Cameron Irving, after they swag for
Speaker 1: the fences, they you know, swung from the fences last year.
Speaker 1: This time they're like, we're not going to be this
Speaker 1: talk of the first round. We're just gonna fill some needs.
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like to me, which isn't a
Speaker 1: bad move necessary, you know they need that. The thing
Speaker 1: I'd say about Irving is like bottom line, when Alex
Speaker 1: Mack was injured last season. I know Dan tired of
Speaker 1: this narrative, but they They're run game, which was very good,
Speaker 1: completely fell apart and they were exposed and lost the
Speaker 1: final five games of the season. Mac is gone after
Speaker 1: next year, absolutely well. He will not resign with the Browns,
Speaker 1: especially now. And this guy is a six five giant
Speaker 1: who can step in and play every position on the
Speaker 1: line that I like it. Maybe he plays left tackle.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he plays left card. Who knows. It's
Speaker 1: hard to find guys that can play all five positions.
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of a six five center, by the way,
Speaker 1: I know he's he's kind of don't anything. By the way,
Speaker 1: if man Zel winds up starting, you've got one of
Speaker 1: the shortest quarterbacks around with a massive center. That's That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's very bizarre. That's going to hit
Speaker 1: him in the helmets. Very bizarre. Kevin Booth from the
Speaker 1: Raiders six five center US. That's why I kind of
Speaker 1: get anything Lineman related. He's plugged in. So you guys
Speaker 1: have sufficiently tucked yourselves into that second pick, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's good. Well, I think we felt like we wanted
Speaker 1: the thing that you wanted. Mariota Connor wanted them to
Speaker 1: go up and get Marioda. I did not at first,
Speaker 1: just because I'm so resigned to what will and btably happen,
Speaker 1: Like I I almost enjoy as a Browns fan watching
Speaker 1: like the world burn on every draft day and just
Speaker 1: being like, man, this is stupid and it's gonna like
Speaker 1: just kill the rest of the franchise. But well that
Speaker 1: was last year. Sweet T shirts like the second that
Speaker 1: they drafted Johnny Manzel. My fiancee and I have matching
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel T shirts and like that was like an
Speaker 1: instinct purchase. So wait, really yeah, no, it's a serious thing,
Speaker 1: and so you wear him at the same time we
Speaker 1: did to it. We warmed to a Phillies game together.
Speaker 1: I'm still to my wife, where the Kelly Holcombe T shirts? Do?
Speaker 1: You do? You find it? Like, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you find Ali attractive all the time, but if
Speaker 1: she's wearing the Man's l shirt like a little extra juice, okay,
Speaker 1: just perfect, She's perfect all the time. Very awkward line
Speaker 1: of questioning from the boss. Are you just asking if
Speaker 1: he finds his wife more sexually attractive when she's wearing
Speaker 1: a Johnny manzelze? Is that where you're going pretty much
Speaker 1: answer the question? But where I was going with that
Speaker 1: is Mark you should put You should put your wife
Speaker 1: and your Brandon weedon Jersey. Let's see what happens. It's
Speaker 1: a line of thought, that's a mood killer. That would
Speaker 1: be um. All right, Oh, you know what we should do.
Speaker 1: We should get our friends on the phone from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I heard a rumor that, uh, we could have them
Speaker 1: just go up to their hotel room and it would
Speaker 1: be quiet. But instead we're gonna try to catch him
Speaker 1: at the hotel bar. Uh, they're around Dave, Damna check
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and let's see how long has West been
Speaker 1: at said bar. That's why we've been talking, all right.
Speaker 1: Do we have them on gold standard? I'm afraid we don't.
Speaker 1: It been it's been a bit difficult to connect with them,
Speaker 1: all right, So we'll we'll try to Maybe if they
Speaker 1: call in, we could talk to them. If not, you know,
Speaker 1: have fun that mccloskey's what else can you do? What
Speaker 1: else can you do? All right, what else do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about? Oh little interlude here, I want
Speaker 1: to talk about gold Standard. If you will help me
Speaker 1: out with this. Uh did a piece? Um really one
Speaker 1: of my greatest pieces, I would say, in terms of
Speaker 1: just my thought process and my writing ability all coming
Speaker 1: into one before the draft started. The draft walk up
Speaker 1: songs for each of the rookies. And Uh, I know Mark,
Speaker 1: you privately sent me an email with your thoughts about
Speaker 1: a hip hop heavy mix of songs. Uh, so let
Speaker 1: me just pick out the two a couple that I liked,
Speaker 1: uh in particular, and then, Uh, Mark, I'll let you
Speaker 1: again offer your thoughts. Let's hear some rich homey Kuan.
Speaker 1: This song was performed by al Right, that is rich
Speaker 1: homie Kuan. Uh your thoughts, Mark, The words I I
Speaker 1: put with this was a waste of time. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find the player who chose this. That was Cameron
Speaker 1: Irving actually Cleveland's. I might revise my answer a great
Speaker 1: head start. All right, let's hear all right, let's hear
Speaker 1: another one? Uh give us? Why don't you give us
Speaker 1: little Jadanna Jadanna? I like this one? Calling on night.
Speaker 1: I can be a boo when I'm being this Spyron
Speaker 1: Jones's choice. You know what I like about getting Connor movent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of these songs that are It's kind of
Speaker 1: funny to me because a lot of the themes are,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's about you know, the money, or
Speaker 1: the women are coming to me or I own this place,
Speaker 1: those are the typical subjects. And then you roll over
Speaker 1: and then it's all to just to give rock a
Speaker 1: big hug. I'm the man, everyone loves me. And then
Speaker 1: you just hug a fifty year old man, or if
Speaker 1: you're Danny South and you take him up and throw him.
Speaker 1: That was impressive. That was pretty cool. And then and
Speaker 1: then what would you give that song? The word I
Speaker 1: assigned to that mindless. You know, you gotta open your horizons,
Speaker 1: he said, my gut reactions. Right, Let's let's try one more.
Speaker 1: This is uh. The artist is Luke Bryant, who is
Speaker 1: a country artist I believe, and Vic Beasley chose this.
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley, of course, went to the Atlanta Falcons with
Speaker 1: the eighth overall pick. I feel like I'm a hucka
Speaker 1: poos right now. This is kind of an out sign
Speaker 1: to go hug another man as well. He should have
Speaker 1: walked really slow when he came out, you know, like
Speaker 1: she was sitting. This is just how I want to
Speaker 1: celebrate my life changing the moment, either that or my
Speaker 1: dog died. Like, what is this your thoughts? Mark? The
Speaker 1: word I used was yawn. That's accurate. That's like I
Speaker 1: feel like I could sleep to that in the green
Speaker 1: room and then when somebody would wake me up that nap. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So those are some songs. Check that out at NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash Danny's masterpiece not an HTML address. Now,
Speaker 1: all right, what else? Greg? How about those cults? Greg
Speaker 1: sat out the music segment. That's okay. I was totally
Speaker 1: in it. I said just as many things as anyone else.
Speaker 1: Give me a break, sorry, go ahead. The Philip Dorset
Speaker 1: pick makes me miss Al Davis because would he have
Speaker 1: not been the number four pick if if Al was
Speaker 1: still around? I mean, like, how certain? Tell me? Because
Speaker 1: you guys the around the NFL pod, we're very excited
Speaker 1: when phil Doorsett went to the cults of the twenty
Speaker 1: nine pick. Why why is everyone at all? Well, it's
Speaker 1: something Greg mentioned before, and it's the kind of the
Speaker 1: guts to take your your strength and just add more
Speaker 1: I mean they added Andre. Sure, it's a Jets theme
Speaker 1: in general, but this is a true like the way
Speaker 1: he was described as. It's an absolute, take the top
Speaker 1: off the defense type of deep threat. And I mean
Speaker 1: it just gives this with Frank Gore and all the
Speaker 1: weapons they have through the air, Andre Johnson added, and
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys they like, and whether Deron Carter,
Speaker 1: who knows what happens to him. You're gonna cause total
Speaker 1: headaches for secondaries. And it's not like it's not like
Speaker 1: the Tavon Austin pick where you have a quarterback who
Speaker 1: won't be able to get him the ball like Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck will be able to get Philip Dorson. Well, he's
Speaker 1: a similar prospect at t Y Hilton when he came out,
Speaker 1: except you know he went in the first round. He
Speaker 1: went much higher than Hilton. And you think of that offense.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking what offenses am I most excited to watch.
Speaker 1: I can't remember an offense I've been more excited to
Speaker 1: watch lately than the two thousand fifteen Colts because I
Speaker 1: love watching Andrew Luck already, and now you have Andre Johnson,
Speaker 1: Donte Moncrief, t Y Hilton, you're throw in Dorset. Who's
Speaker 1: the fastest player in this draft? Cody Kobe, Fleaner, Dwayne Allen,
Speaker 1: Frank Gore catching passes out of the backfield. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's an all star team. This will be absolutely fun
Speaker 1: team to witness until about January when the Patriots drop
Speaker 1: a fifty burger on them. Can I throw one thing
Speaker 1: out there too? Everything sounds great on paper, but I
Speaker 1: don't quite trust Ryan Grigson as a as a talent guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not all in on Griggs. They have other holes
Speaker 1: and they did not address them. So I and I'm
Speaker 1: not one who thinks that Andre Johnson is suddenly gonna
Speaker 1: be performing like age twenty nine. Andre Johnson, and even
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, who's ageless and greg with all due respect,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this. Everyone's saying, oh, this could be
Speaker 1: you know, five point offense, a bit of a strum
Speaker 1: and argument. No one said that, but you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people think, oh, watch
Speaker 1: out for the Colts, They're gonna be a machine. I'm
Speaker 1: not sold yet, and I don't trust the guy putting
Speaker 1: the team together. Let's see, Well, maybe Griggson knows he
Speaker 1: only looks smart when he gets people that Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: are throwing to, like, he looks smart. When you get
Speaker 1: weapons for Andrew Luck and they're trying to they're they're
Speaker 1: doing their own new money ball things. Just win every game.
Speaker 1: Seventy to sixty one. That's kind of their their thing
Speaker 1: right now. It's all about market inefficiency. That would not work.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing. Seventy points exactly. But if you're
Speaker 1: like the shootout team, Oh we're cool. Were the shootout team?
Speaker 1: You know? The Houston Oilers thought they were cool too.
Speaker 1: That never works. Well, one thing, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it works. I hope it doesn't. They were fun to watch.
Speaker 1: They could never be what Pep Hamilton's wanted them to
Speaker 1: be because one of the issues was you had Trent Richardson,
Speaker 1: is the the centerpiece of your running a game. If
Speaker 1: they can run the ball and they have all these
Speaker 1: weapons through the air, they can score five hundred points.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. Well, you got the best
Speaker 1: young quarterback in all of the game. Didn't do an
Speaker 1: offensive linement At some point in this draft. One of
Speaker 1: the more surprising things was that the Eagles, after everything
Speaker 1: we heard all week, had sort of a workman like
Speaker 1: somewhat predictable draft where they took Nelson Aguilar, who is
Speaker 1: a fun looking receiver that to me screamed of the
Speaker 1: Settle move, Like this is this is a worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: We go and get that wide receiver we want because
Speaker 1: you know, they had to be crushed. Chip is never
Speaker 1: gonna say but he had to be crushed that he
Speaker 1: didn't get married and they made a real play. I
Speaker 1: think he saw Mariota's maybe the missing piece to making,
Speaker 1: you know, putting together a super Bowl team, and instead
Speaker 1: now they're stuck with Bradford, who has to be by
Speaker 1: the way feeling great about all this, Like he get
Speaker 1: he just got shipped to Philly and now it's very
Speaker 1: clear that the big plan was to flip him again.
Speaker 1: And now he's now he's stuck in Philly with with
Speaker 1: Chip for at least a year. And they go on.
Speaker 1: They get a wide receiver and he'll replace Mackman on
Speaker 1: the outside, I guess, and he's supposed to be a
Speaker 1: good player. It's a great wide receiver class. But I
Speaker 1: would think ultimately in Philadelphia people there's like the air
Speaker 1: went out of the balloon because I think everyone, me, me,
Speaker 1: at least I thought in the back of my mind
Speaker 1: even though I wanted, uh, I wanted the Jets to
Speaker 1: get Mariota. I was on record on that. I kind
Speaker 1: of thought Chip was gonna make the play and get him,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. I think he came close. But they
Speaker 1: also put basically, you know, a third of their defense
Speaker 1: on the trade blocks. You got a lot of people
Speaker 1: you gotta talk too now and try to measure it
Speaker 1: really was the worst case scenario that Bradford knows they
Speaker 1: were ready to possibly give up on him, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to try to walk all this back. And
Speaker 1: then Fletcher Cox and Michael Kendricks, who maybe and Brandon
Speaker 1: Boykin maybe they will get traded on Day two in
Speaker 1: the draft. We don't know. But Fletcher Cox is one
Speaker 1: of the best players at his position in the entire
Speaker 1: league and Kendricks is a borderline Pro Bowl type of player.
Speaker 1: These are your best players, and now you're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: sorry about that, guys, we just really like Marcus Mariotta.
Speaker 1: Is there even a sliver of a chance that this
Speaker 1: trade still gets done on some level, that somehow the
Speaker 1: Eagles find a way to get the Titans to ship
Speaker 1: Mariotta to Philadelphia. Tennessee started their press conference right after,
Speaker 1: which I love being really clear saying there's no chance
Speaker 1: we're ever going to trade him and that he's starting
Speaker 1: day one, So I don't think so that makes me think.
Speaker 1: I just rewatched The Godfather recently, the line where Michael goes,
Speaker 1: it's not personal, Sunny, it's strictly business. So you know,
Speaker 1: these guys are pros, they get it. But if I'm Bradford,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like, what does go in my
Speaker 1: career right now? Well, also because you're coming off back
Speaker 1: to back a c L tears, I mean, I get
Speaker 1: it if a team isn't completely sold, But what they
Speaker 1: said about Bradford and then what's happened over the last
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, nobody is telling the truth anywhere, And
Speaker 1: if your chip, you're already like kind of on shaky
Speaker 1: ground with a lot of your players, like nobody really
Speaker 1: understands what your plan is, and now you've got to
Speaker 1: sit them all back down and be like, hey, sorry
Speaker 1: about that guy. That just made me think of your boys.
Speaker 1: Need he's got a thing for a c L guys,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: just gotta get someone else coming off of torn a
Speaker 1: c I love that. That's probably exactly what's being talked about.
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly Ever ended up together on the same organization.
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. By the way, some news broke
Speaker 1: from rap rap sheet while we were on Zach Stacy
Speaker 1: wants a trade out of St. Louis. Which trade request
Speaker 1: is satder. The Zach to me is awesome because he's
Speaker 1: Zack for Zach, so I'll see it. Um. One thing
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't run this by you guys, but
Speaker 1: a few minutes left. I'm curious as we head out
Speaker 1: today two, if there's any any team that or a
Speaker 1: player or something that you really expect to happen tomorrow
Speaker 1: that didn't go down today and kind of putting you
Speaker 1: guys on the spot, but that's what I do. I
Speaker 1: want to see if a team will spend like a
Speaker 1: third round pick or fourth round pick on Collins with
Speaker 1: everything going on. Yeah, we haven't talked about that. It's
Speaker 1: up in the air and it could change by the
Speaker 1: time people listen to this. But Lao Collins, who's been
Speaker 1: asked to talk to the police as part of a
Speaker 1: murder investigation, he's not a suspect, but he dated the
Speaker 1: woman who lost her life, and she was pregnant and
Speaker 1: the and the child lived, and it's just it's unprecedented.
Speaker 1: There's almost nothing we can say about it, but it's
Speaker 1: just there's never been a case like this. And he
Speaker 1: tried to get out of this draft so that he
Speaker 1: could be taken the supplemental draft in the NFL denied that,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, by the way, imagine and we
Speaker 1: don't know the specifics of the case yet or what's
Speaker 1: really going on with it, but just imagine he has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. And this is a guy
Speaker 1: that was projected as a first round guy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a tragedy that happened involving somebody knew if
Speaker 1: he wasn't involved, and then this he ends up losing
Speaker 1: millions of dollars on top of everything else. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a it is. It's well, you couldn't you couldn't
Speaker 1: cook up worse timing for it. I mean, the event
Speaker 1: itself number one, but just the way it played out.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just dangling out there. I'm looking to
Speaker 1: see if the Saints draft at quarterback in the second round.
Speaker 1: You know that rap sheet talked about taking Bryce Petty.
Speaker 1: I was actually going to say the same thing. And
Speaker 1: I think that the Rams are a candidate to take
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty as well, and the Bills and the Bills
Speaker 1: and and so is that the next one gone? Definitely?
Speaker 1: We don't you know that that could be fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I think tomorrow could be really interesting because that's, like
Speaker 1: you said, there's the three teams that really need, especially
Speaker 1: the Bills. How about how about Bud Dupree. And we're
Speaker 1: not college experts, but that just felt like such a
Speaker 1: Steelers thing that they get like a perfect three four
Speaker 1: outside linebacker to just fall into their lapse there at
Speaker 1: twenty two and replaced your Steelers thing. And and and they
Speaker 1: they they're one team that didn't. They said all along,
Speaker 1: we are going to find an outside linebacker, and we're
Speaker 1: going to find a cornerback. I think that's the next
Speaker 1: player they pick in round two. I have one, all right,
Speaker 1: what is it? Randy Gregory who obviously that was the
Speaker 1: other big story the day before the draft that a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought this was one of the best
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the draft, and and then there was
Speaker 1: that uh kind of a little bit of a curious
Speaker 1: report by NFL Media from Bird Brier and rap Sheet
Speaker 1: about how the teams had been I guess scared off
Speaker 1: by some of the uh concerns about how he would
Speaker 1: handle the rigors of playing in the NFL. Mention the
Speaker 1: psychological evaluation as being part of that whole mix, right,
Speaker 1: and UH to me, if I'll just speak for you know,
Speaker 1: a team that needs a pass rusher, if you think
Speaker 1: that you can handle that, if that's a concern that
Speaker 1: maybe has been overcooked around draft time some of this
Speaker 1: stuff happens, go get him. You can get a first
Speaker 1: round pass rusher in the second or third round. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking selfishly about the jet but if you get
Speaker 1: if you can get a guy that has that much talent,
Speaker 1: that could be a huge steel Because this is crazy
Speaker 1: what happens with with this pre draft stuff. Things that
Speaker 1: are like nothing get blown into huge things. And maybe
Speaker 1: this is different, maybe really has a lot of issues,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and it takes to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna take the the third of the league
Speaker 1: that is very confident in the way they run their
Speaker 1: operation to take what is a risk. I got perceived
Speaker 1: risks that the Patriots might take him they're a perfect
Speaker 1: type of team second pick, but they did not, and um, finally,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll well Connor and marking myself, we're all,
Speaker 1: you know, sweating it out. You know what is the
Speaker 1: move that our teams will make? Oh my god, is
Speaker 1: this going to finally, you know, turn us toward a
Speaker 1: Lombardi trophy? It was Greg, We're sweating bolts. Greg. There's
Speaker 1: wind whispering through that custom haircut by the makeup ladies,
Speaker 1: a little cherub, children feeding him, grapes, a woman, a
Speaker 1: native woman fanning him on the throne of these waiting
Speaker 1: for that thirty second pick, and then eventually it comes
Speaker 1: and Greg's like another Malcolm. I like it. Malcolm's that's
Speaker 1: the new inefficiency, that's the new strategy. Get as many
Speaker 1: Malcolms as you can on this team. I love same
Speaker 1: same exact size as Vince wolfwork. Oh yeah, height and wait.
Speaker 1: I like that. It was a little bit much when
Speaker 1: editors and a couple of the TV people were pulled
Speaker 1: off their assignments to pick him up in his chair
Speaker 1: and carry him out of the news from It's a
Speaker 1: little bit little rich. It's great to be Greg, isn't it.
Speaker 1: In a shocking movie. Mike Mayock loved the Patriots pick
Speaker 1: and we the Patriots get a lot of get a
Speaker 1: lot of love them. Long Live the King's on the network,
Speaker 1: all right, that is unless anybody has anything else. And
Speaker 1: I guess we never heard from the guys in Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're out. We're gonna get them on on Saturday and
Speaker 1: we'll we'll hear well here you know everything, what what
Speaker 1: a draft town is like. Maybe we'll hear from. If not,
Speaker 1: we will get someone on the line from Chicago, even
Speaker 1: if it's like the bartender at mc closkey's. We'll get
Speaker 1: somebody to talk himself. Potentially Carl McCloskey might call in.
Speaker 1: There's little tease for you, old man, Old Carlo. That's
Speaker 1: it for the Around the NFL Podcast, Special Draft Edition.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. And if you you know, if
Speaker 1: you stayed up late, what's up. That's it. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say with it. We'll do some winners and losers
Speaker 1: after this is all over on Saturday. That's how we
Speaker 1: do it. And again, the one thing we can promise
Speaker 1: you is that we will be accurate. Yes, yes, this
Speaker 1: is Dan hands As signing off for Quiet Storm Space.
Speaker 1: Couse Cows, the cows, the Boss, and the great gold
Speaker 1: standard behind the glass. Happy Draft Day still Saturday,