WEBVTT - Draft Show: 2018 Kickoff & Players To Watch 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:06.320 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.120 the Ore war Room for incenter news and draft analysis 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.560 from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:19.000 Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:24.680 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.480 for the seventh year. We come back to you here 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.240 on the Draft Show. Excited about it. Brian brought us 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.839 here along with my scouting buddies Dane Brugler from NFLS 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.080 NFL Draft scout dot Com and also doing some work 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.199 at the Dallas Morning News as well, because some words 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.400 going on there and hear my voice and one five 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.320 three and then one O five three the fan Yallas 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.440 Cowboys dot Com. You've got a lot of things going on, 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.479 young man. Appreciate you coming back for another campig Is 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.120 It's an honor that I'm welcome back. Yeah. Hey, we 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.280 got the draft here this year, so even more fun, 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.240 even more important. It's in our backyard all David Hellman 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.640 always back with us. Hey, Brian, Honey, Jim, thanks for 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.320 sitting down with this other night and watching some tape. Yeah, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.920 back into that got to its Draft season as draft season, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.120 one hundred and twelve days until the NFL Draft, and 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.000 we're gonna be with you every step of the way, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.280 So we appreciate that. KNT Garrison, Executive producer, can't thank 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.080 you once again for being as great as you are. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.720 A fella is good to be back. Yeah, always excited 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.319 about that. Got a lot of things planned for the 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.320 Draft show this year. Is always you know you're gonna 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.160 find ways here with us too. We always talk about this, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.360 you know, investigate, educate, That's that's our words. We we 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.000 like the interaction with the fans. We like the back 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.839 and forth. We like to answer questions. Dane's great on Twitter, 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.280 DP Brugler, He'll answer questions for you all day about 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.520 the draft. Just be polite to him. You know you're 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.240 getting a fight with him. Be polite in the fat 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.960 in the fight. You know, that's what we do here. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.800 There's an argument, there's discussion, but be polite about it. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.200 David Hellman will answer questions too, absolutely, But yeah, I 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.280 want to get into though this, like a say, a 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.080 couple of different ways you can get a hold of 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.400 us here at the Draft Show. Is a way that 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.640 we want because we do something here. It was started 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.400 many years ago with Twitter on the twenty. I want 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.320 to maintain that. I want to keep that going. I 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.040 want to be able to have that interaction. I wanted times, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.080 various times to be able to answer questions during the show. 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.360 You know, if Dave sees one that pops up at 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.000 his account or at the at the draft show. We 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.280 want to get to those questions. We want to answer questions. 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.840 We want to make sure you guys understand, you know 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.840 what's going on here. You know, you guys have a 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.840 lot of great opinions out there as well, and we 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.440 appreciate those opinions. Again, well, we'll take all those questions. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.720 Another way too, is through the phone lines. I'll call 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.320 for some you know, I'll call for some calls. Maybe 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.760 at the end of the show. We'll get that done. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.679 Two one four eight seven two twenty one h two. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.200 You'll see that on your screen. Feel free to be 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.360 a part of that again. Kent Garrison will be answering 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.160 the phones and he will get you on the air. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.240 Make sure again you have your radio down on all 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.560 those things so we can get to your question. As always, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.400 we're always doing well. Everybody's here, you know, and that's 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.280 kind of a staple here at the Draft Show. If 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.600 you get on the air, get your question. Appreciate everybody 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.880 asking how we're doing, but we are fine, So we'll 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:12.840 keep that. That's one of the simple little ground rules 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.640 I have on this show. And as long as we 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.680 maintain that, we'll get through a lot of calls and 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.200 questions and things like that the Draft Show. Just to 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.079 let you give an idea, we're a week earlier last 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.959 year we were in the playoffs. I think we're two 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.040 or three year wait, we're real early here, and so 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.760 Dane's done a lot of this work here. Dave and 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.480 I are trying to catch up, but we'll get there. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.400 We'll eventually, you know, be up to speed on a 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.080 lot of these guys. So kind of keep that in 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.400 mind if you have a question. Dane, We'll probably be 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.480 able to handle stuff early here as we get into 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.000 some of these draft shows, and we will also have 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.960 the opportunity this will be our normal time. Eleven am 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.520 on Thursdays will be our normal time. We're gonna do 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.040 some stuff like we always do at a at the Combine, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.240 and we're also going to have at the Senior Bowl. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.760 We've got the Senior Bowl coming up here at the 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.760 end of the month a couple of weeks, a couple 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.200 of weeks, so like the twenty third of January, plan 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.080 on once again, whole crew being there. We're gonna, you know, 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.680 do shows from the from the Senior Bowl every day. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.440 Then we'll do shows from the Combine. But again, this 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.480 is very important to us, and we take a lot 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.000 of pride in our show here and we want to 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.320 make sure it is for you the fan out there. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.839 That's important to us. So again, a couple of different 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.599 ways that we can do that. Okay. Big news of 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:30.880 the day from last night had a couple of quarterbacks 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.760 that declared for the NFL Draft, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:42.920 both UCLA and USC. Rosen uh did not play in 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.920 the Bowl game. He was waiting for the concussions he had. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.920 Concussion he suffered against Utah, I believe on November third 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.040 was something that he was having to deal with. So, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.039 you know, we look at now, guys, the quarterbacks, and 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.960 here we are, we're looking at a team here, the Cowboys. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.000 You know, some people say, hey, go get a quarterback, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.600 don't get a quarterback. I'm not saying they're gonna go 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.880 get one of these guys. But you know, as we 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.480 get to this, when we get to all these quarterbacks, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.159 now with with that, you know, with Darnell and then 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.160 again with with Rose and both. Then you add in 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.640 Josh Allen for Josh Allen from Wyoming, Baker Mayfield as well, 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.000 and we're waiting on Lamar's decision. Yeah, right on him 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.720 initially declared. Yet there's always a chance he'd go back, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.640 but he hasn't told January fifteenth to make that decision. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.400 Early thoughts though on this is and I want to 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:38.400 ask you guys, are the five quarterbacks gonna dominate this 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.560 draft and this draft discussion? Oh? Yeah, always, quarterbacks always do. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.800 If there's a good quarterback, I mean think back to 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.000 twenty fifteen. Yeah, Wins and Goff and Paxton Lynch can't 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:53.200 forget about him. Yeah, if there's several and especially there's 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.240 a few quarterback and eighty teams at the top of 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.120 the draft and these you know I feel, I mean, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.200 all right, you can have your opinion on him, and 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.000 you can tell each y yeah we need to figure 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:06.240 that out. And that's fine. But they're prototypicals, you know, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.799 big arm tall quarterbacks like They're gonna dominate the conversation. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.080 And I would imagine one or both of them are 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.320 gonna be top five picks, right. Like, I know it's early, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.840 but I think good chance. We're looking at quarterbacks going 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.240 one two. Yeah, with the Browns, the Browns are fascinating 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.039 because they have the first pick in the fourth pick. Yeah, 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.200 they also have two picks. It's all gonna be. The 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:26.440 Browns are gonna be a lot of fun to watch, 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.919 especially with John Dorsey a scouting part. He's gonna eager 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.520 to see what he does in Cleveland. Um, but you 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.479 also the Giants at two, you have the Broncos at five, 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.320 you have the Jets sitting there in the top ten. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.640 All these teams could use quarterbacks quarterbacks and so yeah, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.920 with darn Old and Rosen Listen, there's no consensus quarterback 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.560 top quarterback this year. You can poke holes on all 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.599 of them, pros and cons with each one of them. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.680 It's going to be interesting the quarterback debate, which like 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.480 every year, we're gonna tear them down, you know, throw 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.320 them up, build them back up. Yeah, it's it's just 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.280 gonna be. That's just part of the process us and 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.039 so with and it won't be hard with either of 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.400 these guys. There's plenty of negatives that you can look to, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.280 but there's plenty of positives as well, And so I 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.560 think we remember these are you know, Sam Donald's twenty 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.280 years old, right, It doesn't throw a lot of make 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.680 a lot of turnovers. Yeah he does, but you know 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.480 he's a red shirt sophomore. I can count on one 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.920 hand the number of red shirt sophomore quarterbacks who had 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.200 declared earlier and gone in the first round. It doesn't 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.440 happen very often. Yeah, So you know, Johnny Manzil is 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.120 one example on one end of the spectrum. Jamis Winston 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.760 the other end of the spectrum. So where will Sam 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.240 Donald land? It'll be interesting to see. But yeah, I 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.840 think the quarterbacks, no doubt, will command much of the 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.560 discussion this year. Is there a guy like I mean, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:44.600 I'm gonna ask you something though you mentioned Jackson? How 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:49.360 does he fit in the NFL? Dave? I granted I 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.960 haven't sat down and really dissected the tape, but I've 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.680 watched enough of him out. Oh, I know, you know 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.880 the player he's I mean, I'm giving him every opportunity 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.440 to be a quarterback. He's a quarterback. I mean personally, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.600 I don't like, I don't buy this crap that he's 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.200 a you know, wide receiver or whatever. I'm not saying 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.320 he's gonna be a great pro quarterback, but he's a quarterback. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:08.920 Could he be the wild card in this whole thing? 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.440 Or will it be Baker Mayfield? Um? I think they 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.720 both are. I mean, I think there are multiple wild 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:19.080 cards at quarterback. With Baker, you know, he's taught out 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.200 the kid at Wyoming. He seems like the one guy 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.600 that everybody's kind of bashing on right now because I 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.760 think everybody's wants to find the next Carson Wentz so bad. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.640 It's just too it's too obvious that that's what they 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.040 want him to be. And maybe he is, but he 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.520 certainly doesn't have the resume to back it up. No, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.080 and well, and Carson Wentz really didn't have the resume 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.120 either as a one and a half year starter at 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.640 FCS school. And so, you know, it's a lot of 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.400 people make a lot of a lot of excuses for 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.640 Josh Allen. To me, the way I describe it is, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.000 he's scouting katnip Okay. He's got the elite arm, he's 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.559 got the elite size, and he's an elite athlete, high 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.200 character guy, you know what you're getting all in all 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.520 those areas, but he's undeveloped in several critical areas that 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.959 it takes to play the quarterback position in the NFL, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:11.160 from a decision making perspective, accuracy, touch, tempo on us throws, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.920 just the way he can manage the pocket, his pocket presence. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.840 So there's just a lot of areas where he's just 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.320 not ready. He's undeveloped, and it's a fascinating journey that 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.400 he's taken, you know, from going unrecruited to be the 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.920 JUCO level to Wyoming giving him a shot and then 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.040 just kind of blowing up. And then with Baker Mayfield, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.680 you have a guy who, if he was two inches taller, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.600 I think we'd be talking about him as a top 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.360 ten pick. But because he's gonna be six foot maybe 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.560 six foot and a half, that's a that's a big 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.800 part of the discussion with NFL teams. And then back 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.160 to the original guy we talked about with Lamar Jackson, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.640 I haven't talked to one person in the NFL who 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.160 says he's a wide receiver all Ryeah. I think God, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.120 I think that just one person, a couple of people 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.280 said that, and all of a sudden, the outrage against 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.880 it kind of fueled the discussion. But to me, Lamar Jackson, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.440 he's a quarterback. The bigger question will be does he 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.600 does he come out or not? Because he's never in 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.040 a season thrown for over sixty percent completions. The last 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.720 three years he's combined for six hundred and fifty carries. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.200 Can you really Michael Vick? He's a right handed version 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.360 of Michael Vick. But again, that's some lofty praise considering 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.960 Michaels he had. But just talking to old ball scout here, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.880 I mean, that's gonna be the easy comparisons. Okay, but 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.160 that's what I'm saying. Though, Michael Vick, when you watched 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.040 him play at Virginia Tech, was not an accurate quarterback, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.560 right you know? Yeah? I saw him plays with his feed. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.760 You can get around that. If you're a threat to 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.800 run for a thousand yards in the season, like you 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.000 can make up for Well, I'm for the kid. I 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.080 really am for the kid. I hope that sounds I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.320 hope he declares. I mean, I'm sure there's like Louisville 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.520 fans listening to this who disagree, But that just makes 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.199 this whole draft process that much more fascinating because he'll 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.640 be one of the two or three most polarizing prospects 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.120 in this draft if he does come out. And is 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.480 he going to be the one though that when you 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.679 watch his tape, you're gonna fall in love with him 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.400 the most of all these quarterbacks. I don't think so, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.839 because this is the big playability. But every time, okay, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.880 like I see this on Twitter a lot where people 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.000 post videos and say look at Lamar Jackson. Here, look 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.360 at and almost every time it's him running the ball. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.120 And that's great. I mean, I'm not discounting what he 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.440 can do as an athlete and with his legs, but 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.200 it's still the quarterback positions about putting the ball in 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.480 the air, and Lamar Jackson can do that. He has 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.840 a big time arm, he can make some downfield throws, 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.439 but he's still not the most accurate quarterback with his feel, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.360 with his placement. So there are question marks to me. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.360 I think when you look at you know, this is 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.560 the time of year where the underclassman again, they have 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.560 until January fifteenth to make a decision. This is the 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.680 time of the year, of the calendar where we're hearing 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.520 all these decisions. We also recently found out the draft order. Yeah, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.959 and when you look at it, you look ahead and 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.760 run through that, run through the top five, the drip. Oh, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.160 you can run through. Well, excuse an idea. Cowboys are 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.520 picking nineteenth, okay, and I always looking see, okay, who's 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.079 ahead of him and who's behind him? Seattle is ahead 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.960 of you in this drafting word. I got this question 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.719 a lot. Yeah. And the people that want to who 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.040 have been talking about the draft order, strength of schedule? Schedule, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.920 what is the tiebreaker for teams with the same record 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.120 head to head has nothing to do with it, right, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.440 headhead has nothing to You're absolutely right about this, and 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.080 you've got some teams that are gonna have to flip. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.360 I mean gonna have to flip from So I believe 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.440 the Oakland pick at nine in the forty nine ers 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.439 and the Packers and Redskins thirteen and fourteen. Because the 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.680 first time breaker strength of schedule. Then it goes to 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.000 conference record if they're in the same or division record 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.200 if the in the same division, and then conference record 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.960 if in the same conference. If they're still tied. After that, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.000 then it goes to a coin flip. So we have 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.280 we've got, yeah, we've got two teams. We have four 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.240 teams that are gonna have to flip for spots. Right, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.000 but in just looking at the top twenty order of 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.520 the non playoff teams, we keep them with the quarterback discussion, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.360 you look at the Cardinals sitting there at fifteene. Yes, 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.640 you know that's mid of mid first round. Okay, let's say, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.280 just for argument sakes, that quarterbacks go one, two, Arnold 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.920 Rosen whatever order. And then you have some interesting, you 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.080 know teams with the Broncos, with the Jets, you know, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.480 could the Dolphins, you don't know what's going on, Ryan Tannehill. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.760 And then the Cardinals sitting there at fifteen. How these 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.480 quarterbacks the order they go in, I don't think. I 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.560 don't think as much as we talked about Pat Malomes 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.480 last year, how many times do we talk about him 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.000 going top ten? Not until much later in the process 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.480 at the very least. Right, So, you know, it's going 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.400 to be interesting to see how these the quarterback dominoes 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.000 fall in the top half a round one. And that's well, 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.440 I think it's fascinating because I see I you know, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.120 Darnold and Rosen I think could create a free for 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.040 all in the top ten among the teams up there 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.720 that need quarterbacks, because there's at least like four. But 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.800 then the Cowboys are really interesting lead positioned in my opinion, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.720 because now you're talking about Mayfield and maybe Lamar Jackson 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.440 and Josh Allen. Obviously I have no idea on January 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.240 fourth how that all plays out, but those guys start 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.280 to drop towards the back end of the first round. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.800 Maybe the Cowboys benefit from their position because of that. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.920 We talked about that with the Shaun Watt last year. Right, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.800 I mean first round grade you get right now on 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.240 your board? Do you know off the top of your head, No, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.439 it's right. I A rough guess would be about fifteen 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.240 right now. See see that's where that's where you know 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:15.360 picking nineteen. Yeah, you're right on the cusp right of 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.080 getting a first round player, right, talked about that before 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:23.480 And to Dave's point about the quarterbacks, Sam Donald coming 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.600 out into this draft class helps the Cowboys because it's 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.480 just gonna push another, hopefully another good player to know. Sure, 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.240 so you know, who knows what Lamar Jackson could if 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.400 he goes somewhere in the top eighteen picks, it could 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.240 be a similar type of scenario. So the more quarterbacks 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.440 the better, the more of these underclassmen they come out. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.320 Arden Key from LSU, right, you both, both of you 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.480 guys know very well. Yeah, he declared he could go 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.560 top fifteen player that might not be on the Cowboys 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.840 radars because of you know, the Randy Gregory wounds are 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.760 so fresh. Oh that's get ready for that comparison, right, yeah, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.000 very comparison. Well, we're gonna spend more time on arden 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.400 Key than you know, maybe any other player in this draft, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.480 trying to figure him out, right, both on and off 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.960 the field. Yeah, but again him coming out. You know 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.000 a lot of Alabama players have yet to announce whether 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.200 they'll come out. So the more declarations the better for 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.400 the Cowboys, more chance for a better player to be 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.120 there at nineteen. Just kind of run through a couple 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.920 more of those. Orlando Brown, Oklahoma, and he didn't declare it, 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.280 did he? He He did declare? Okay, Yeah, I thought that 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.960 was last night recently. Carry on Johnson Auburn. I love him. Yeah, 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.200 he's a top five back. Ten. See, now there is 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.560 there a guy how many how many running backs? See 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.440 this is where this is going to get interesting too, Yeah, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.560 because how many running backs are going to go in 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.160 the top ten? I think only one? I'd be sure 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.000 you think Barkley's only Barkley's the only one. I'd be surprised. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.920 As much as I like Dice, I think he's more 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.280 of a solid first rounder, a guy that you look 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.760 at in the teams. He might be there in the twenties, um, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.840 and maybe that'll change. But right now where we sit 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.200 early January, I think sae Quon Berkeley's the only back 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.800 that'll go top ten. And you know, Jeff having On 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.520 on Trust to Tape podcast, we've evaded who's the best 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.240 running back prospect of the last three four years? Right? 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.960 He went with Berkeley, I went with Zeke. That's going 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.040 to be a fascinating discussion we can get into at 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:15.920 some point. Absolutely, But Kari said top five potentially running background, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.960 I think so. I think somewhere in the top fifty. Yeah. See, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.240 he's a really I love him. Christian Kirk was another 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.320 one wide receiver Texas and m there's a lot of 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:28.680 buzz among Cowboy fans. We've already we've already got ourselves 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.440 a nice little short list of players that Cowboys fans 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.600 are in love with. Right. Yeah, and I'll tell you 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.720 what he talked about him a little bit. The toughest 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.440 thing with him is can you play on the outside 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.280 in the NFL? Oh? I think he can because he 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.080 at A and M he was a slot only player. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.240 Yeah and so, And I'm not saying he can't. I'm 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.840 just saying we have a separation at speed well against 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.920 nickel defender, sure, but when he plays press on the outside, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.120 it might be a little a little more difficult. I'm 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.040 not saying he can't. I'm just saying he's untested in 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.400 that area. So that's something that will to keep it 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.560 keep tabs on. But no, I love Christian Kirk. He's 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.639 my number two wide receiver behind Kelvin Ridley. Uh. And 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.960 I think Kirk. I think he's a top forty player. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.880 About DJ Moore than loved oh Man, Tell me about 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.520 DJ Moore a bit, Dave watch him? Yeah, tell me 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.879 about DJ Moore. Uh, he's Maryland wide receiver. Sorry I 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.280 need to say the school when I do this, but 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.520 five zero five zero nine two like he's he's not 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.639 the biggest guy, but he's tough as nails and for 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.480 as I don't want to say undersize, but he's not 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.320 the biggest receiver. He's got some tall stick but well, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.480 but he's he's got these fantastic hands, like, yeah, I 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.320 don't know how big they are. Then, you know, we 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.240 haven't gotten into that part of the draft process. But 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.920 like he's snatching everything out here out here down low. Uh, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.040 Dave is making fun of my our scout numbers five 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.960 nine six five nine six to fifteen four five five 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.800 gotta be running faster than that. Don't Philadelphia, Pa. He 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.359 is from Philadelphia. Here you go, David. Uh. He's impressive, man, Like, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.080 he's just he's hands best trade. There's so much to 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.040 like about him. His hands are really impressive, he I wrote, 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.320 I took notes, Brian. I know you don't like he 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.560 glides when he runs, like he just looks so smooth. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.040 His routes look good. He bounces off tacklers like, I mean, 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.000 I don't know how many times just on the We 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.920 didn't even It's not like we watched all of his games. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.720 We watched a twenty minute cut up. Yeah, and I 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.120 like four or five times the safety had a great 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:23.560 angle on him and put a lick on him, and 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.040 he just kind of just kept going. If you're not 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.200 a tall receiver, a big receiver, you better have really 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.800 good hands or be a really good after the catch target, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.160 and I think he's both. I mean, I think as 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.159 bad as Maryland was on offense this year, or a 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.080 streaky and inconsistent play. He said, a Maryland record for 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.199 catches in a season, and he's only the third Maryland 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.600 receiver to ever go over a thousand yards. So this 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.879 is a player I've been talking up all fall, and 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.200 finally I'm glad he's getting more glad. I brought him 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.480 up on the first day of the draft show. He's 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.960 a date two player I was gonna so I was, 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.680 I'm not good at that. Like what you're giving him 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.760 a round two grade? Round three grade? Probably? Right? Yeah, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.800 I mean we got a these. I think we're gonna 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.880 have a log gym of receivers in the second round. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.879