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Speaker 1: just talking about in life in general. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I sincerely do, and I'm still hurting from Lakwan Treadwell

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Speaker 1: this year, it hasn't been great And a big part

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Speaker 1: But no, I agree. I mean, I think a big

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Speaker 1: an example of that this year is going to be

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and that, well, that's where I want to

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Speaker 1: see that. That's where I'm not walking down. That's like,

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Speaker 1: let's see if the show's motto is to investigate, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it is, you can't and I worry. I'm

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Speaker 1: be like Courtland Sutton is trash. Like hey, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you what the Draft show fandom. I feel you guys,

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Speaker 1: this is true for almost every position, which separates the

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Speaker 1: It's true with offensive lineman, defensive lineman, every position, wide

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Speaker 1: receivers included. The guys that have that technical skill, which

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley absolutely has no doubt, that's what separates him.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Courtland Sutton doesn't have right now. And

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that he won't a lot of that screen.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing is he's the offense at SMU,

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Speaker 1: and the offense he goes to in the NFL, you

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Speaker 1: might as well ask him to, you know, learn Chinese.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge gap there and so maybe he'll learn

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Speaker 1: But it's just there's there's a big if there because

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Speaker 1: Sutton such a tough player to evalue. Because again the

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about him, but the technical

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Speaker 1: glad to hear you say all that. Okay, boy, that

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Speaker 1: what are the top three needs for the Cowboys in

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Speaker 1: this draft going in to twenty eighteen? Can I throw

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Speaker 1: something out Dane Burgership did something for Dallas Morning News

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Speaker 1: safety from Alabama. The Ron Payne nose tackle Alabama, and

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Speaker 1: for in the National title game Alabama and Georgia. UM,

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Speaker 1: plenty of first rounders, plenty of future pros to watch

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Speaker 1: for in that game. It's hard to say because we

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Speaker 1: you know, there's several steps need to be taken before

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Speaker 1: long way, Yeah we got yeah, So a lot could change,

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Speaker 1: but initially, initially I really want them to see this

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Speaker 1: team upgrade the wide receiver corps. That's me UM. I

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Speaker 1: think with Anthony Hitchens likely moving on in free agency,

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Speaker 1: linebacker and then you know, a safety, something to shower

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Speaker 1: up that secondary to really I feel you have a

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Speaker 1: lot of pieces, but I don't know, I just too

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Speaker 1: many moving parts in that secondary. Maybe adding an impact

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Speaker 1: safety could help stabilize the defensive backfield. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: would be a Harrison would be that guy, where do

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Speaker 1: you fall on on d tackle? That's and I'll package

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Speaker 1: this in with another question from a guy Showtime says,

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Speaker 1: you know, why why don't the Cowboys try harder to

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Speaker 1: address needs in the middle of the defensive line? And

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Speaker 1: it makes me think back to twenty thirteen, the famous

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Speaker 1: Sharif Floyd. Yeah then yeah, um, just well they tried

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Speaker 1: to help you here with the name with the Ron Payne. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, And and the way I'm looking you know

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Speaker 1: ya from Washington. Oh my gosh, he's tough to figure

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Speaker 1: out because this is he gonna get the Danny Shelton comparison.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, he's so much more talented than Danny.

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Speaker 1: He's so much better athlete. And Shelton was like the

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Speaker 1: He at three hundred and forty pounds, the way he

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Speaker 1: he's that rare guy that can take on double teams

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Speaker 1: down a ball carrier at the sideline. Yeah, exactly has that.

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Speaker 1: But the discipline, the technique, there's you know, the motor.

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Speaker 1: Those are all kind of iffy areas with him for

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Speaker 1: me um and again go to h You know Dave's

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Speaker 1: point about the nose tackle, the one technique is that

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Speaker 1: a position that this team would invest in with a

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Speaker 1: top twenty pick. It's not a sexy position, but adding

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Speaker 1: an impact player, whether it's Veya from Washington on Pain

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Speaker 1: from Alabama, the ripple effect that the addition of a

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Speaker 1: player like that will help the defensive ends, It'll help

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Speaker 1: the linebackers. You could have Malie Collins stay at the

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Speaker 1: three technique, you could you could use David Irving as

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Speaker 1: a mismash weapon up and down the defensive line. So

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Speaker 1: having that lynchpin then anchor at nose tackle really could

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Speaker 1: make a difference. The question is would they do that

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Speaker 1: in the first round? See, that's what That's what I

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Speaker 1: Are we are we being too dismissive to say that

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Speaker 1: they definitely won't do that. That's kind of it is.

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Speaker 1: But we're just we're going on draft history. If I would,

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Speaker 1: a good looking player for Dallas, and somebody would chime in,

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Speaker 1: like Dane would go, brought us say, have not taken

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Speaker 1: a one technique? They've baba bla. I mean, that's that's history.

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Speaker 1: You're right, And I saw this counter argument on Twitter

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Speaker 1: just playing Devil's advocate and then spend first round picks

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Speaker 1: on alignment either and no, and that's true times in

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Speaker 1: five years. What does Maurice due for you. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan. Yeah, but Michigan defensive tackle probably a three right,

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Speaker 1: say he played more of the nose at Michigan, but

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Speaker 1: he is a definitely three. I mean he's he's like

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty five, two hundred ninety pounds. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's so quick, so explosive. Ma rese Hurst to me,

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Speaker 1: is a first round pick if is he in that

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Speaker 1: nineteen range. Yeah, I think he's I think his size

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Speaker 1: six oz one five I think is what he is.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what he is in the combine if he

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Speaker 1: need to get on board with all our numbers. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we're just trying to We're just trying to

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Speaker 1: play the one, Yeah, by all means, Maurice Hearst would

634
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: be a good guy to have on your team. And hey,

635
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's part of the fun part

636
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: about starting this so early, is what I mean. We

637
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen with David Irving now,

638
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: so him and Christian Wilkins the two undertackles to keep up. Yeah.

639
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this though. These Clemson guys they

640
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: got me nervous. Why I think they're overrated, all of them.

641
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: The defensive lineman Grady Jarrett wants. I mean, everybody's talking

642
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: about them, Grady, Grady Jarrett wants. But what was he picked?

643
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: He was fifth round? Yeah, okay, feel like he fell

644
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: a little bit though, Oh he did because he's a

645
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: short daddy. He's a short daddy player. He is. He

646
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: is shorter. Yeah, yeah, well mean, But don't you feel

647
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: like though that everybody's kind of got those Clemson guys

648
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: way up there. I think that they like Cleveland Ferrell

649
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: the defensive end. Yeah, I think he has He's only

650
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Richard sophomore. He's very young. I think the boy you're

651
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: being nice. I just said he was young. No no, no, no, no, no.

652
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm he's his combination of power, athleticism for that size.

653
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still figuring things out. He's a young player.

654
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: But when you project him forward, I think the traits there,

655
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: there's plenty to like there with the trades. I'm not

656
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: saying he's a top ten pick, but I think somewhere

657
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: in the first round he would be. He would make sense.

658
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I got I got another big picture for you, Dane.

659
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: I would say, I'm putting you on the spot, but

660
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: you're way too prepared for me to think that's going

661
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: to happen. Justin just wants an overview of what the

662
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: strengths and the weaknesses are in this draft. I mean

663
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: last year that it was a dB head about that

664
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: right out of the block. Hey, that's what we need

665
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: to know though, that's that's great, and we're still waiting

666
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: on some under classmen to declare help. That's shape everything.

667
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: But when we look at it, I think corner again

668
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: is going to be a very strong route. Um debout

669
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: running back, I said, yeah, running back definitely. We only

670
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: we might only have one top ten pick, maybe only

671
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, two first rounders. Yeah, maybe more, we'll see.

672
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: But in the top fifty, top sixty, Albert Kamara is

673
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: out there somewhere well, and that's that's it. This is

674
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: that's why Pete get ready. This thing is going up.

675
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: That's it. Teams want to find that next Albert kamaras

676
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: So Barkley's gonna go top five and then okay, Darius Guice,

677
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: carry on, Johnson, Nick Chubb, Damian Harris, Sony Shell Love stand,

678
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones usc he's a Jamal Charles clone. So we're

679
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna see plenty of running backs go in the top sixty.

680
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: We mentioned wide receiver there's a logjam of them in

681
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: the top fifty, top sixty picks. Um good tight ends,

682
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: some some good tight ends. You like Hayden Hurst a

683
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: lot better than the guy. I mean, hey, my guy,

684
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: go Durt Goddard got all right. I always kessed up names.

685
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: I always gotta do. Yeah, y'all get so excited. Throw

686
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: throw me some schools here. Let's South Dakota State. That's

687
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: Goddard got right about Hurst, South Carolina. There we go, guys.

688
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: He's a former minor league baseball player. He first, Yeah,

689
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 1: he's twenty four years old. You know what, don't ever

690
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: tell me about age. After that frigging net Nan deterren S,

691
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Newman still played in Minnesota after we were told he

692
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: was too old a draft. Well, and that's something that's

693
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna come up a lot. Ridley with Ridley, he's right

694
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: about that four year old rookie. He couldn't play his

695
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: senior year in high school because he turned nineteen. Wow. Yeah,

696
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: he's just an older guy and wrapped him. Bring him on. Yeah,

697
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean you know what, the way that the way

698
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: that these players are, you get them, you use them,

699
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: you move on. And that's a terrible way of saying things,

700
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: but it really is. And the salary caper. I mean,

701
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: I think teams now would just rather draft. It's nice

702
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, even though they bust them

703
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: all the time. I want a player for ten years

704
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: in the you know, it's unrealistic exactly unless it's an

705
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: offensive line and chances are you're not going to be

706
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: the head coach for the next ten years. You're not

707
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna be the GM firs years. You need to win

708
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: the next three or four years. Boy, you're preaching the

709
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: rob anywhere where. This draft looks particularly weak again, offensive

710
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: tackle just seems like it's gonna be like my guy

711
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: O'Neil friend, I like them, Um, I think you have

712
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: some holes. Uh not strong. Then again, every time I

713
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: always talk about that guy, I talk about that Nate Solder,

714
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I talk about Baktari every time. Oh

715
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: not strong enough, not strong? They play like forever. That

716
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: actually serves as a great segue, y'all know how I

717
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: like those though. I mean, you think about Okay, you

718
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of have a good idea of these team needs

719
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver, linebacker, safety, offensive tackle, a sneaky need. I

720
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: would you hit it at nineteen well, that's what Josh wants. Yeah. God, no,

721
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. No, I'm not doing that, right,

722
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm not no way no, I mean I don't think

723
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: they would so, so tackle's not a need then, right off.

724
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean it had to happen on how you feel

725
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: about Tyron Smith. But I know you were. I know

726
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: you pay attention at at noon on Sundays to team

727
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: up in Ohio. I get that because nobody. I love

728
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: my timeline when when Dane's watching the game with the

729
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: brown Yeah, he's like fighting fans. He's fighting the Browns

730
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: fan like Kaiser is gonna be good. Shut up. But

731
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: by the way, hey, when you do, when you do

732
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: as many players as we do, you know how it goes, right.

733
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: But I think that I think that the left tackle

734
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: spot held this team hostage this year because of the

735
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: health of the and we we got into a big

736
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: debate about this on our on the Break yesterday. I

737
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: do not believe that Tyron Smith's situation is so dire

738
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: that this team needs to be drafting a tackle at nineteen,

739
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: but I certainly think it's something that they should be

740
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: looking for in free agency and the draft, a swing

741
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: tackle who can adequately replace Tyrant. Let me ask you this,

742
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm way wrong about where he fits in

743
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: the grand scheme. Connor Williams. See, it's that nineteen scores

744
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: that or is that because but send you got some

745
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: teams like the Giants who were talking about all these

746
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: teams that need quarterbacks. Some teams, the teams that need

747
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman might be taken quarterbacks, right, And Connor Williams

748
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: will be tough because twenty sixteen, his sophomore tape, they

749
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: said that was incredible. Connor Williams from where Tech Texas.

750
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, he looked like a

751
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: first round pick. Yeah. This year he looked terrible in

752
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: the h against Maryland, bad game, and then he got

753
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: hurt in the USC game. Yeah, it's supposed to sell

754
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: right on that bad play. And then he returned for

755
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: the final two games and he looked okay, okay. Uh So,

756
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: if which Connor Williams are you're drafting the two sixteen

757
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: version or the two seventeen, I don't need questions. It's

758
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: about my offensive tackles well, and that's why I think

759
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: Conor Williams is going to be a first round pick.

760
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: It could be somewhere top fifteen. Orlando Brown's gonna be

761
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: a tough one for me. The Oklahoma left tackle slow

762
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: because he blocks out the sun. Yeah huge, I know

763
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: he is, but and that helps compensate for some of

764
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: his lateral limitations because he is so big. He has

765
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: that wide base the wingspan. But oh he's huge. Zeus's son. Yeah,

766
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: former NFL pro Rip. So it's it's tough to wear

767
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: to peg him in the draft because yeah, you have to.

768
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't like the left tackle right tackle distinction. I

769
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: think they're the same thing you need to your tackles

770
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: as a good sides in this day and age. Yeah,

771
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean you saw that with Lyle Collins. He drew

772
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: most of the tough matchup for the Cowboys this season.

773
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Did we answer that question about offensive tackle. I don't know.

774
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: It's just hard with Tyrone Smith because you just have

775
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: to trust the medicals and trust your trainers, and it's

776
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: it's hard for I mean unless unless you're in one

777
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: of those situations where like the best tackle in the

778
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: classes sitting there at nineteen. It's hard for me to

779
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: justify that that Jonathan Allen, I wouldn't mind him in

780
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: the safety from that Indiana. The Colts took Cook. Yeah, yeah,

781
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. In the second round the Cowboys looking

782
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: at a Tyrell Crossby from Oregon. I think that'd be

783
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: a He's he'd be an ideal swing tackle. Guy could

784
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: play either side, um, and you're not playing paying a

785
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: premium price for him, and he can start in this league.

786
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: It would be it's a stretch to think of a

787
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: first round tackle. It might have agree. We've managed to

788
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: not really mention this guy too much, which is amazing

789
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: because pup Daddy, pup Daddy, pup Daddy is his name,

790
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: pup Daddy like it. Uh, he wants to know he first,

791
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: he wants a comparison of Roquan Smith and Rashaun Evans,

792
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: so they're gonna be playing each other on Monday in Alabama.

793
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: But also just kind of, uh, let's just sort of

794
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: talk about why Cowboys Nation is just absolutely in love

795
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: and with Roquan Smith and what he could do for

796
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: you slash hows Evans. By the way, can he get

797
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: nicked up in that game the other night? He got

798
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: banged up, but he's I think he's supposed to play

799
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: and okay, okay. Big thing for Evans is he plays

800
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: the sam and Nick Saban's three four is multiple scheme

801
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: where he's mostly going downhill um and then he even

802
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: puts his hand on the ground when they go to

803
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: a four man front and off. He's an interesting is

804
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: that range Rolando McClean looking type dude. He's really square. Yeah,

805
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: he's not range looking, He's just he's long. He's square. Yeah,

806
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: he's really square, Dave. And I mean and when you

807
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: watch him he bounces off people, he's like he bound,

808
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: he hits him, he spins, he you know, but he

809
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: has the speed where he can make plays at the

810
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: sideline and on the perimeter. Yeah. Uh, big question for me,

811
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I think, And we won't know this, And this is

812
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: why the Senior Bowl wild be so important. Is how

813
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: he does in reverse? How does he do in coverage

814
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: covering backs and tight ends the drills during practice? That's

815
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: going to reveal a lot that'll help me with the

816
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Evans evaluation. With Roquan Smith, the SEC Championship game might

817
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: have been the best against Auburn. Georgia beat up on Auburn.

818
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: That might have been the best linebacker tape I've ever

819
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: watched with Roquan Smith. He was that good Uh, that

820
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: is that hyperbole? Is that too going? I gave him.

821
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: I gave palms up because I'm like, yeah, he's right,

822
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's good. See the problem you run in

823
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: with him? He plays the will? Does he play the will?

824
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: He plays the will in Kirby Smarts three four. Yes. See,

825
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying, though that doesn't matter to me. Okay,

826
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: you do have Sean Lee that plays your will. He's

827
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: he's turning thirty two. Okay, I'm with you. If you're

828
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: just if you're okay, next question, well, next question? Is

829
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: he there at nineteen? No? See, that's that's the thing.

830
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to go get that guy. I

831
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: think that. And are you going to get a guy

832
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: where you already have? And I and again, I love

833
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: the player, folks, don't get me wrong. I love the guy.

834
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm trying to think of what they

835
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: would think. I think he's one of the top ten

836
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: players in this draft. But I don't agree with you.

837
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: How much higher did we have of Lavante David rated

838
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: compared to where he was drafted or the LSU linebacker

839
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: um One Atlantis? Yeah, John, I mean I think these

840
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: undersized linebackers are not undersized, but guys that don't fitfall

841
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Speaker 1: linebackers right off, fall linebackers that don't fit the ideal

842
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: size measurements that team pot four, they might fall a

843
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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not saying Roquat Smith's gonna be there

844
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Speaker 1: at nineteen. I'm saying there's an outside chance, and I'm saying,

845
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Speaker 1: if he falls to fourteen fifteen, do you go get him?

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Speaker 1: And so I don't think it's totally unrealistic to say that,

847
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's no chance that he could be well,

848
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: I know, I just I just kind of look at

849
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: this team and saying, well, Sean Lee, he plays, I'm

850
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the can. The scouts can walk and

851
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Speaker 1: buy and grab candy out of the candy jar. Our

852
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: desk can kind of give us a little whisper here

853
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: and there. Maybe I I hear what you're saying. I

854
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: don't think nineteen is not too steep of a price

855
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: for me, considering Sean Lee's age and injury history. Oh

856
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: hey and all that. But but I mean, if you're

857
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: talking about trading up to get a guy who's going

858
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: to be your third linebacker preferably, I don't know, but

859
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: I love him. I get Dallas is no man's land

860
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: right now in this thing until until I catch up

861
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: where the draft, how it's gonna fall or how it

862
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: could fall. I mean, I'm thinking, I'm thinking Smith, like

863
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: you said, he's top ten. So one more, well, one

864
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: last one, one last one. Then we got to get

865
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: to a break. Our friend of the show, Bobby Belt,

866
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: wants y'all to talk about Marcus Davenport. Oh my god,

867
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: is this is this a nineteen consideration? Uh? If he's there,

868
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: If he's there a guy from UTSA. If he's there,

869
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: this is a guy with this guy's got it. He's

870
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: a How long has u TSA been playing top tier football?

871
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Like three years? Four? That's a good question. I don't know,

872
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: not man, it's maybe it might be more like six

873
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: or seven. I don't know, but uh, certainly not a

874
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: power program. No, it's a defensive end, right, Are you

875
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: got him? No? I think he I mean the size measurements,

876
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: the athleticism. I mean, he's he's a trades player, Okay.

877
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean you're drafting him for the traits, and that

878
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: could be a little risky at times in the first round.

879
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: But he's got a hoops background. Uh you know, you

880
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: you see the athleticism way he I mean Louisiana Tech game,

881
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: they tried to have a running back block him. Yeah. Ok. Yeah,

882
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: the funeral for that running back, yeah, it was two

883
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: days later. So it's just that Marcus Davenport has There's

884
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot to like about him. He's still raw in

885
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: a lot of areas, sure, but I think you look

886
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: at the Packers picking in the mid first round, he

887
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: could be an option. We know a lot of teams

888
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: need pass rush helps, so he might not even be

889
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: in discussion at nineteen because he might not be there.

890
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: This guy's a bully. Yeah, he's a bully. Play he

891
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: plays like a bully. He will he will take guys on,

892
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: push guys around, and he's a physical player. And what's amazing,

893
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: he's plays in the two point stance really the whole game.

894
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean you you rarely ever ever see him put

895
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: his hand on the ground in rush. I think the

896
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: fun thing for me about how early we're starting this is,

897
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know, by the time we by

898
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: the time even the combine rolls around, oh yeah, we'll

899
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: have we'll have our net of like, yeah, eight guys

900
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: that are realistic consideration. And I mean last year we

901
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: were pretty damn close. We were we were we talked

902
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: him into drafting the safety from Louisiana and well we'll

903
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: get into that. But even in the first round, I mean,

904
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: Charles Harris, Jack McKinley, Taco like, we were right, you know. Yeah,

905
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited to figure out because I don't I don't

906
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: know enough right now is if Marcus Davenport's realistic is

907
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: Rocan Smith Smith Smith's realistic Christian Kirk Like, I'm excited

908
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: to kind of firm up that idea of like what

909
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: exactly are we looking at now? This is a going

910
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: back with Davenport. Just looking my notes, Scott didn't play light.

911
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: He is one of those guys that when I mean

912
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: he's good, he's got some pop in his hand, give

913
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: me six five six two fifty two wow. And he's

914
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: very balanced. Yeah, he's not a guy who's gonna be

915
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: fall on the ground. I mean he not only can

916
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: he go around guys, he can go through them as well. Yeah. Okay, Ken,

917
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I should have owned you a break about

918
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Speaker 1: five minutes ago, but gotten to Hey, thanks everybody for Twitter.

919
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Speaker 1: On the twenty when we come back, light up the

920
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: phone lines. We'll take some calls from you too as well.

921
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: You know, we'll get into some more discussions. I've got

922
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: some I want to go through with these guys. But

923
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Speaker 1: us Stain Burglar, David Hilma Garrison, executive producer. Thanks for

969
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Speaker 1: coming along with ride. We talked about this one hundred

970
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Speaker 1: and twelve days. I said, till the NFL Draft. We'll

971
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: be with you every step of the way. With all

972
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: the different coverage that we're going to have. We're kind

973
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: of talking in the break that reach out to Derek Eagleton.

974
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: You guys, tweet at dark at Eagles. Yeah, tweet at

975
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. If you want multiple shows, yeah, week and

976
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: just tell them what you think you know and we'll see.

977
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, we'll come up with the

978
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Speaker 1: well we do. We do shows every every day at

979
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: the Combine we do that the Senior Bowl. I like,

980
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: I know, combine beer can't chick and I'm really looking

981
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: forward to that again this year. By the way Pretzel

982
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: rolls it. Yeah, it's like to have the beer can't

983
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: chake and I've never seen brought us that. I was

984
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: so disappointed. We'll be there for you. Yeah, yeah, Derek Eagleton,

985
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I know, like, I know we love this, but I'm

986
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: always I shouldn't be, but I'm I'm surprised by like

987
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: the outpouring of love. Well, you guys are busy, guys.

988
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: My man here, he's got like seventeen jobs he's doing.

989
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: You've got all these shows you're on, But like I

990
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: don't want to make you guys have to do anything.

991
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, but it's no. I'm talking about the fans.

992
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: Like as soon as as soon as the uh you know,

993
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: as soon as they lost to the Seahawks and they

994
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: were eliminated, like you just start getting yeah, tweet that.

995
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah for that. Yeah, it was like, yeah, it's one

996
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: thing for like a sarcastic fan to be like, well,

997
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: time to talk about the draft, Dave. But then like

998
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: we announced that the show's starting today, and it's just

999
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: like people are freaking the hell out. It's awesome. Well,

1000
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: like I said, well, well we'll carve some time. But

1001
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: at Derek Eagleton, if you want to see the show,

1002
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: just go ahead and go at him with this, can't.

1003
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I asked if there were any calls? Are there any? Yeah?

1004
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: We got Brian and Waco, Brian and Wake You're on

1005
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Speaker 1: the Draft show, Brian, Hey, Hey there Fellas Hey. UM.

1006
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I just want to say I've been looking forward to

1007
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: this day for a long ever since basically November twelfth

1008
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: of last year when the Cowboys played Atlanta. Um and

1009
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: uh fell in love with the show last year and

1010
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: just absolutely love it. You guys are great. Quick comment.

1011
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: One of my biggest problems from last year is that

1012
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: they the Cowboys just refused to really utilize Zeke in

1013
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: their offense as far as route running like a wide receiver.

1014
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I know Nick Eatman talks about one a police flicker

1015
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: once a game. I would love that too. I love

1016
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: that play, but I think maybe you know, Zeke out

1017
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: on a post route twenty yards. I think that would

1018
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: just scare the absolute crap out of DB's and maybe

1019
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: you pull out of him that way. Open up receivers

1020
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: on the other side, you know, worst lamp route or

1021
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: something like that. So my my biggest concern is the

1022
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. I think Calvin Ridley has a good chance

1023
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: of being maybe the next Julio Jones also Alabama alum

1024
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: sure um and uh, I just think he is so

1025
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: NFL ready on his release, his route running, his hands

1026
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: are amazing and uh just has such a great boy

1027
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: type for number one. And so my question is is

1028
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Speaker 1: he at all possible uh for the Cowboys? If not?

1029
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: Outside of Rokan Smith, who I also love, who do

1030
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: you see kind of the Cowboys wanting to trade up

1031
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: for like where do you see where do you see

1032
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: their them kind of pushing their chips to the table

1033
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: for like this player. I'll hang up. Yeah, I appreciate that,

1034
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah, we talked about Calvin really

1035
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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. Yeah. One thing that I disagree

1036
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: with with Brian is the body type. That's my one

1037
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: one of my worries with Calvin release just to tick

1038
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: over six one right, he doesn't have ideal body armor

1039
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: like like a Julio Jones, and he'll get banged up

1040
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's explosive, but exactly there's two most

1041
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: important things. I've said this every year, the most two

1042
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: most important things about a receiver. Can you get open

1043
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: and can you catch the ball? He's got two of those.

1044
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: Calvin really does both of those things exceptionally. So if

1045
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: he's there at nineteen, it's a no brainer to mean. Now,

1046
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: my question to you two guys, Okay, would they do it? Well?

1047
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: The financial commitments? They have a wide receiver right now.

1048
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Calvin really would be a day one upgrade

1049
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: over Terrence Williams at the Z Yeah, but how did

1050
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: they get out of that or that Terrence Williams contract?

1051
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: You know it just would they take a receiver there

1052
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: if it came, if it fell that way, I really

1053
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: I think they would. If it was just a no

1054
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: brainer situation. I really think they would. And I don't think.

1055
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to do anything drastic to

1056
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: your receiver cord to make that work. Honestly, you look

1057
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: at it. There's there's what, there's six right now. They

1058
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: carried six all year. Bryce Butler's an impending free agent.

1059
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: You certainly don't get the idea that he plans on

1060
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: coming back. Just from talking to him. Anything's possible. But

1061
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: that's just the idea that I get. Noah Brown is

1062
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. They clearly liked him enough to keep. Yeah,

1063
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: there is sixth in my head. I'm just thinking that

1064
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Noah Brown's the seventh round pick. Ryan Switzer's a fourth

1065
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: round pick. There's no there's nothing, nothing nothing, Man's that

1066
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: you keep either the guys on this team go and

1067
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: then and like I said, even if Bryce leaves, you

1068
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: can still keep them both. Add a draft pick as

1069
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: your sixth receiver if you want to get crazy with it.

1070
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Once you draft that guy, if you were to draft

1071
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: to Calvin Ridley, who's good enough to be your number

1072
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: one or number two from day one? You add that

1073
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: guy to the team, go into OTA's and if you

1074
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: want to, you could play hardball with Dez or Terrence

1075
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: and say, hey, take a pay cut, or we can

1076
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: cut you and this guy, I'll take your job. Or

1077
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: you could just carry those six and and move on

1078
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: from one of them next year and have your rookie

1079
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: takeover at that point. Either way, I think it's totally

1080
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: I think it's totally doable to add a receiver without

1081
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: getting rid of either of those guys. But if you

1082
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: wanted to, you could. Yeah, it listen, you want does

1083
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: Brian on this team? And I still think he's the

1084
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: number one. Now, Calvin Ridley, I think would be the

1085
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: perfect number two who can step into that number one

1086
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: role in a year or two. So I think adding

1087
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: a Calvin Ridley to me, you know, it's January fourth, okay,

1088
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: but where we stand right now, Calvin Ridley at nineteen

1089
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: would be the ideal pick for this team. Is that realistic?

1090
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: I think it's really I don't think it's receivers are

1091
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: so tough. Last year it's three went in to top ten.

1092
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: Would you consider him the best wide receiver in this class?

1093
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: Right now? He's clearly the number one wide receiver. What

1094
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: are the odds that the number one receiver in this

1095
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: class falls all the way to Let's look at two

1096
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: years ago, when it was Laquon Treadwell, it was Josh Doxon,

1097
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: it was Corey Coleman. Only one of those guys went

1098
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: in top twenty, and that was Corey Coleman, who went

1099
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: fifteenth overall. So wide receivers are weird in the draft

1100
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: unless you're an AJ Green or Julio Jones. And with

1101
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley being gonna be a twenty four year

1102
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: old rookie with again the body type, the injury possibilities.

1103
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: That that's what worries me a little bit. It could

1104
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: causing to slip a little bit. I don't think it's

1105
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: likely he's there at nineteen. I do think it's possible.

1106
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: And again, kind of like with Roquan Smith, if he's

1107
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: there at fourteen fifteen, is it worth you know, trading uh,

1108
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, a third or a couple of fourths or

1109
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to move up three or four spots.

1110
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: And I think Brian mentioned that too, is if he

1111
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: if that guy were to start, if he if he's

1112
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: there at like fourteen fifteen sixteen, you got some comp

1113
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: picks you can use, and you can trade those now

1114
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: in this year. Yeah, maybe use one of those guys

1115
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: to get you up into the or maybe you deal

1116
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: your third knowing that you have two fourths or something

1117
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, that's really I think that's that's

1118
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: not crazy. We'll hear a lot about how a good

1119
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: thing that won week seventeen or else I would have

1120
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: been there, Yeah, which you know, I get that, and

1121
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, for every sarcastic comment I read, it's like, Okay,

1122
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: that could be the difference between player and not but

1123
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: could be yeah, you missed you missed out on Aaron

1124
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: Donald and Ryan Shazier in fourteen and got the best

1125
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: guard in the game in Zach Matt. So I mean

1126
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: that's what you think. You think p people or teams

1127
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: are kind of shined away from the receiver bit thing

1128
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: that that they're starting to say, hey, you don't have

1129
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: to take these guys, right, top ten? Right, Well, that's

1130
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: what I thought last year and then and then three

1131
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: went in the top ten. But you look at it.

1132
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: But but but you're looking at it. You're saying, well, hey,

1133
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: the receivers in this draft are better than those guys.

1134
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: Why you know, Okay, but like, let's look at the

1135
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: three receivers draft a top ten last year. Corey Davis

1136
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: missed most of the year with injuries. Right, Mike Williams

1137
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: missed most of the year with injuries. John Ross did

1138
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: he play? I don't think he did. They were trying,

1139
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: they were maybe looking at him as a defensive back.

1140
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: So there's you know, those three picks in the top

1141
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: ten look like uh ill advised picks at this point.

1142
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Are people gonna shy away

1143
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: from this. People gonna say, I think it's possible, you

1144
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: know what, and and maybe he does sly unless you're

1145
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: in aj Green or Julio Jones or Larry Fitzgerald, all

1146
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: players that went in the top five. But also and

1147
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: I was, but there, I mean there's still guys. I

1148
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: think the cream has a way of rising in the top.

1149
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean Odell Beckham twelve overall. Uh, Julio, I know

1150
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great year this year, but I

1151
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: still consider Amari Cooper a really, really good receiver. Um So,

1152
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I think it says more about

1153
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: the receiver class if he falls that far as right

1154
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: as opposed to like this trend that that receivers aren't

1155
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: worth it, because they absolutely are. If I'm gonna make

1156
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: a predict, a fair point, I'm gonna make a prediction.

1157
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: But this is I'm here with you know, first day

1158
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna go another hour. Yeah, first first day prediction.

1159
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that people are gonna covet the running

1160
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: backs more than the wide receivers in this draft. Well,

1161
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean at the top of the top of wide

1162
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: receivers are gonna go down. Okay, quarterbacks, running backs up,

1163
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: wide receivers down. But I'm reluctant to say that the

1164
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: depth of the position. It's just it's the position though,

1165
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: because the running back is if Darius Geiss is RB,

1166
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: people are seeing what running games or means for these teams. Sure,

1167
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: I well, yeah, and what what if jackson Oh yeah,

1168
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: is Leonard Fournette really wake Bortles was a bag of

1169
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: you know what, they get a running game, they get

1170
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: some defense, I would I'm I'm leaning more toward Todd Gurley, Zeke,

1171
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara as my reasons for that as opposed to Jacksonville.

1172
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I mean, they made it. They

1173
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: made a top five commitment to get Fournette, No, and

1174
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: and he had a decent season, but it's not I mean,

1175
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: it's not like he took the league over. That's all

1176
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. I think he barely had over

1177
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yards I think, but solid solid, But the

1178
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: threat there, the talents, the talents in this running back

1179
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: class are just absurd though. I mean, Zeke himself thinks

1180
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: that Sequon Barkley is a better He did say that

1181
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: he is. He did, And I was going to ask

1182
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: you we didn't get to it. But somebody locked that

1183
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Barkley's a top five pick. You think, I think so

1184
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: he's he's the twenty number one. I don't know. You

1185
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: can't rule it out. I would say it's doubts. I mean,

1186
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: if somebody would trade up, I'm not saying that could

1187
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: take him number They need a running back, that's true.

1188
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: They well, I think the ideals so they get their

1189
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: quarterback at four, you need to if you're gonna take

1190
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback'll take you have to take him a while.

1191
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm right now on January fourth, I'm just gonna say

1192
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: the Browns should draft Rosen and Barkley and call it

1193
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: a day. Well, that's the thing is, if you can

1194
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: get a quarterback at one, whether it's Darnold Rosen whoever,

1195
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: and then Barkeley at four, talk about a transformation of

1196
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: your offense, talk about selling some jerseys. Oh my god. Yeah,

1197
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Dorsey doesn't sell this pick. It'll be interesting to see

1198
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: what kind of calls he gets because with the quarterbacks

1199
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: with you know, a Bradley Chubb could be there. I mean,

1200
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: if it's Patrick whoever's there, that'll be interesting. But yeah,

1201
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: I think you look at the Giants at two, probably

1202
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: go quarterback, but Barkley would fill a huge need there Indianapolis.

1203
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: Frank Gore is on his final legs, I think, but

1204
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, Barkley could be an option there. At three Cleveland,

1205
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: they need a running back, especially for a young quarterback.

1206
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: He could be the pick up four. So I'll have

1207
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: a tough time seeing Barkley fall out of top four picks.

1208
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: How many how many running backs you got with first

1209
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: round grades right now? Just Barkley Barkley for him? Yeah,

1210
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: you don't even you don't have one on Geis or

1211
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: I like guys a lot. I have him as a

1212
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: late one, early two. Um, he could go in the teens,

1213
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: could go in the twenties. But in terms of just

1214
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: shall you said, uh, let's see, let me pull my

1215
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: running back rank Barkley one, and then I have Guys

1216
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: and Carrie and Johnson with late one early twos, Nick

1217
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: Chubb also with a late one early two, and then

1218
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of twos Ronald Jones, Damian Harris,

1219
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle U, Rashad Pennies in there. Yeah, and I

1220
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: think we still have a few Underclosset brace love I

1221
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: love I love that for the Cowboys. I don't know

1222
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: if they'd yet. I'm saying you get ready and there's

1223
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: a there's a glut at at wide receiver too. I

1224
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: make it a prediction. Yeah, go ahead, if not a

1225
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: quarterback the first round, fifteen of the last twenty five drafts,

1226
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback has gone number one. Yeah, I think that's

1227
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: going to continue. And here's the here's the trend. If

1228
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Four defensive ends, three offensive tackles, one

1229
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, one wide receiver, and one running back. Well,

1230
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: let's just do some quick math there. I mean we

1231
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: you said offensive tackle sucks in this class. Yeah, it's

1232
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be an off as the tackle. I'm I

1233
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: know there's some good defensive ends, but I don't think

1234
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: there's anybody on ub. Chubb is not Garrett. I'm he's

1235
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: not Garrett, but I think he's people like him. He's

1236
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a top seven pick. That's fine, but

1237
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's good enough to be the number one.

1238
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: You watched him, right, Yeah, and I, like I said,

1239
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I think I watched him with an unfair bias because

1240
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: I've heard so much about it. But I came away

1241
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: from it thinking like he's good, but not like this transformative,

1242
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: franchise altering player. Agree he's not Garrett Yeah uh and

1243
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: so okay, defensive end, offensive tackle, no mate, Okay, maybe

1244
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley, but otherwise, I mean it's gonna be

1245
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I feel very comfortable saying that. Right, the

1246
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: brown stay at one. I think there's an outside shot

1247
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: at running a sa Quon Barkley. But Indie, Who's who's

1248
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: the Indian? Does Indy need a quarterback? See that's some

1249
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: said I would worry about somebody moving like. I don't

1250
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: know if Chris Ballard knows it, but that's my That's

1251
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: my point is, even if somebody trades up into that pick,

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Speaker 1: what are they doing it. They're doing it for a quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: You're not doing it for se Quon Barkley, even if

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Speaker 1: he is amazing. I don't think I agree, And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think the Browns go quarterback at one, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I understand fans Sparkley at one, then just

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Speaker 1: get whatever quarterbacks left at four. That's not how it works.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to drop the quarterback in the top four,

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Speaker 1: you're taking your guy. Yeah, she's not trading this Pa.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is well and you well, I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying passing it on quarterback at one and taking

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Speaker 1: him at four, yeah, risk the Giants taking him or

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Speaker 1: someone trading up to three and somebody blockbustering going up

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Speaker 1: in there. Right about Arizona, Barkley, Arizona. How about that?

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Speaker 1: Teams have come at Philadelphia, came from the middle of

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Speaker 1: the draft, and then you can have a new You

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Speaker 1: have a new head coach in Arizona. Two. Yeah, Mike

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Speaker 1: mcagnet in New York, he desperate for a quarterback. At seven,

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Speaker 1: Jets could move up the Broncos and Kirk Cousins could

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Speaker 1: be the wild card in all this. Where does he

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Speaker 1: sign a free agency Yeah, it's what if he goes

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland? What if he goes to Denver? All of

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Speaker 1: a sudden one of those teams in the top five

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Speaker 1: does not need a quarterback. I'm so excited. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's let can we skip? Can we skip

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Speaker 1: to like March four? Yeah, we got let's skip to

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Speaker 1: the combat so got we still got time, We still

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Speaker 1: got time for the thing. Oh, hey, they're talking about

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Speaker 1: Darnol and Rode all right here, Hey, well, Thanks everybody

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Speaker 1: out there for joining us for this maiden voyage of

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show. We'll be back next Thursday at the

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Speaker 1: same time, eleven am Central. We'll have some more coverage

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Speaker 1: for you. We'll be getting ready to go through the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. We'll probably go through some of those guys.

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Speaker 1: If you have some more questions, again, make sure you

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Speaker 1: hit Dane on Twitter and David Hellman. They'll be happy

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Speaker 1: to answer those questions, as will I so for my scouts.

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Speaker 1: Dave Burglar, David Hellman, Kant Harrison Executive signed Brian Bruss,

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, Thanks Derek for letting us be on the air.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I always always say thanks uh for for

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Speaker 1: Ed K. Hill for coming up with this idea. Take care, guys,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. FI