1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Wow. Hello, my name is Luke Thomas. I 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: am from CBS Sports and from Showtime. It is currently 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: twelve fifty two am on the tenth of October. Yes, 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: it is technically a Sunday here on the East Coast 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: of the United States, and Fury versus Wilder three is 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: in the books. That was incredible. That was I don't 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: even know really what to say about that. I actually 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: have a lot to say, but I don't even know 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: where to start because that was epic. That was incredible. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: That was way more than I was expecting. I think 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: that was a way more than most people were expecting. 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say, of the three fights 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: that we had that between Wilder and Fury, that was 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the best one by far. Okay, first things first, give 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: a thumbs up to the video. Please hit that subscribe button. 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: I do a show with my co host Brian Campbell, 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: who's currently at the CBA Sports Headquarters in Stanford, Connecticut. 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna be tackling the CBS Sports HQ duties. But 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a show we always do it Monday 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday Friday eleven am in the East where we just 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: talk about everything that happened over the weekend, but for 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna cover you for immediate reaction as 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: it relates to this epic, epic, epic boxing contest between 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury. Please subscribe. We are a 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Showtime show. We cover combat sports. We're happy to have you. 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: We cover boxing and MMA. It's good stuff. So hit 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: that subscribe button. And last, but not least, I'm assuming 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: if you're watching this you don't want spoilers. You might 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: be like, oh, luke, no one wants. No one here 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: is for the spoilers, right. You would imagine that would 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: be true, But people routinely are here for the spoilers. 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, let's do this. I'm gonna 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: start this program and will when I do, we're gonna 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: get into the results. Okay. All right, So with that 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: in mind, let's get this party started, all right. And 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: here we are, and I'm going to turn off the 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: subscribe button. Okay. So first things first, I usually like 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: to start with the scorecards. Now we don't have the 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: actual scorecards in the sense of a completed card because uh, 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury won via stoppage in the eleventh round. It 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: was the third time he had knocked Deontay Wilder down 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: in the fight, and h Russell Mora, the referee who, 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: by the way, referee refereed the Navarette fight in the rematch, 44 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Sorry it wasn't It wasn't a rematch for Navarette. Navaretti 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: was like the feature fight on the card, but in 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: the rematch between Wilder and Furry on that card, Russell 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Moore had a stoppage. So it was a good choice 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: for this one, especially giving them a league Scott his 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: and the team behind Wilders that they weren't going to 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: throw the towel and blah blah blah. Okay, it's an 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: eleventh round stoppage. We actually do have, though, what the 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: scorecards were at at the time of the stoppage. I 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: think I retweeted it, Yes I did, so, I've actually 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: not looked at these numbers myself. Let's see where they 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: had it. Judge Dave Moretti had it at the time, 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: so only through ten rounds, right, there was no score 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: recorded in the eleventh and obviously there was no twelfth round. 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Judge Dave Moretti had the fight ninety five to ninety 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: one leading into the eleventh round. In favor of Tyson Fury. 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: Judge Tim Cheatham had the fight ninety four ninety two 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: heading into the eleventh round in favor of Tyson Fury, 62 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: and last but not least, Steve Weisfeld had the fight 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: ninety five ninety two heading into the eleventh round four 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury. So Tyson Fury was up on all three 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: judges scorecards, which to me made sense. You had Larry 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Hazzard doing some ringside scoring that I thought was a 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: little bit little bit off, but basically you get the idea. 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: The first round, we'll talk about just a second scoring 69 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: for it went ten nine to Wilder, and then round 70 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: two most of the judges had it for Fury, though 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: not all. Then there was the ten seven round. Actually, 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: if there was a ten eight round in third because 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Fury got the knockdown, it was a ten to seven 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth because Wilder got two knockdowns, and then 75 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: he may have won the fifth. That one's a little 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: bit up in the air depending on who recorded the scorecard. 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: But from the sixth on, basically Fury won every one 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: of those rounds except on excuse me, on Tim Cheatham's card. 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: He gave that round round nine to Deontay Wilder, which 80 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't quite understand. But okay, so there's your scoring 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: as it would have been had there not been a stoppage, 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the timing of their excuse me, they're calling it ko 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: eleventh round one ten of the eleventh round. First of all, 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: that is, that's the best heavyweight fight I've seen personally, 85 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: like sat down to watch. I don't even know. I 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: can't remember the last time I saw a heavyweight fight 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: that good. A heavyweight boxing fight, I cannot remember. I 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: cannot recall how I felt like this the last time 89 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: when there was heavyweights fighting. I can recall the last 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: time I felt like this over a boxing or any 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of combat sports fight where I felt like this, 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: But for a heavyweight contest, this is unusual. I had 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: people writing saying, maybe Lewis versus Vitally, maybe Evander and 94 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: Bo that's a that's a deep cut. You had the 95 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: commentator Brian Kenny calling it the Gautty Ward of the heavyweights. 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you have a situation where what about aj versus 97 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Klitchko from not too long ago, like I think six 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: or seven years ago, something like that, somewhere around that. Yeah, 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one live because I was on 100 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: vacation at the time. I watched it after the fact, 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: but yes, that would qualify too. I don't know that 102 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: where this ranks exactly and the pantheon of great heavyweight 103 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: fights even in the last ten to fifteen years, but 104 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: wherever it is, certainly for the last ten or fifteen years, 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: it's at or near the top. That was excellent. Five 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: knockdowns in a heavyweight fight, and you got to finish, 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: and it was thrilling, and it went with undulating changes. 108 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a little of stability towards the end 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: of that fight, but through the first five for the 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: front half of that fight was fucking bananas, absolutely insane, 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: incredible up and down drama like you couldn't believe that 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: the odds were certainly close in the fight. I will 113 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: tell you in the run up I thought that I 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: thought that Wilder didn't have much of a chance, and 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: when he got dropped in the third, I thought, okay, right, 116 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: so here we go, because remember in the second fight 117 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: he got dropped into the third and then the fifth 118 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: and then ultimately didn't make it out of the seventh. No, 119 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: that was a call from Mark Breelin, But you get 120 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the idea. So I thought, after that third round knockdown, Okay, 121 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be it, this is this 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: is where it's gonna go. And then for him to 123 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: turn around and get not one but two knockdowns, dude, 124 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and I did not know if Tyson Fury was gonna 125 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: make it out of that round. I really didn't. I 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: was like, dude, he's in trouble. Fucking Deontay Wilder doesn't 127 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: just have power, he has historically significant power. He is 128 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: among all you can count on a single hand. They 129 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: had a graphic on the broadcast, but we talked about 130 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: this in Morning Combat last week. He is up there 131 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: with some of the hardest punchers ever. He doesn't have 132 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: that Julian Jackson type power. Julien Jackson was a much bigger, 133 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: excuse me, smaller weight class. But when Julian Jackson threw anything, 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: it landed with this sort of absurd power. Wilder doesn't 135 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: exactly have that. Beau jab doesn't really do that. But 136 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: his right hand, Dude, you can't take any chances with 137 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: that thing, and if you do, my lord, he is 138 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: a car crash just wrapped in a fist with that thing. 139 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Sledgehammer dude. That is just It can change the game 140 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: in an instant. Dude. How many times have you seen 141 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: a thrilling heavyweight fight where a guy suffers a ten 142 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: to seven round and then ultimately ends up winning that 143 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: bitch via stoppage on the back half of it? Dude, 144 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: what the fuck? That was incredible with the drama. That 145 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: was incredible with the up and down, And I have 146 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: to tell you here's why I think it ended up 147 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: being the best of the three. The first fight was 148 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: very competitive and it was back and forth, but Tyson 149 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: was doing a lot of dancing. He was laid in 150 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: for that fight for two hundred and fifty six and 151 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: a half pounds. He was light on his feet, he 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: was sticking and moving and it was a good strategy. 153 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: But obviously we know, you know, he didn't like this. 154 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: He didn't like that stick and move style for the 155 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: American judges, and he went to, as we know, the 156 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: cronk style and changed trainers and had a much more 157 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: interface style and he beat Deontae the second time. What 158 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean to say is I wonder about the preparation 159 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: for Tyson in this fight, not taking anything away from Wilder. 160 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: In fact, I want to say something about Wilder just 161 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: a second. That's very, very positive. But it did look 162 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: to me like Fury had regressed a little bit from 163 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: the second fight, and Wilder had upped his game a 164 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: little bit from the set fight. And so for the 165 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: second fight they may have been like this. Now they 166 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: got like this. They got a little bit closer, actually 167 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: a fair amount closer to each other. I mean, in 168 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: that fourth round, Tyson Fury was in I mean serius jeopardy. 169 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: But because there was the step up and then seemingly 170 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: a step down, it ended up creating just a much 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: more competitive fight where Fury could not get this guy 172 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: out of there, had to get off the canvas himself, 173 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: had to rally, and had to find a different way 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: of winning than the two previous fights. The first fight 175 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: was again stick and move, get off the canvas of 176 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: the twelfth, and then he really put it on. He 177 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: put Deonte on his heels in the end of that twelfth. 178 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: In the second round it was obviously as we saw 179 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: a double jabm far outside, hit him with the cross, 180 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: catch him as he exits with switching stances, which, by 181 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the way, a lot of those weapons which we'll talk 182 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: about just a second, they were brought over into this contest, 183 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: and you saw some of that here. You saw some 184 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: of the same weapons whatever. This time he had a 185 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: lot of long range weapons. He did catch him exiting 186 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: Lennox Lewis, the commentator Lennox Lewis and the commentator noting 187 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: that even Wilder at the very end, that was just 188 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: circling into the power of Fury, although that wasn't by 189 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: itself the reason where he lost in that in the 190 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: in the eleventh round late, but this one was in 191 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: the clinch. There was so and there there was a 192 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: lot of clinching last time too, but there was a 193 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: lot of heavy clenching press especially the last like from 194 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: round seven, eight, nine, ten, and obviously in the eleventh 195 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: even through rounds eight to the it was a lot 196 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: of Fury backing Wilder up into the ropes, leaning on him, overhooking, 197 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: under hooking, wrapping and collar tying and pulling and then 198 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, almost setting up guillotine chokes, like really sort 199 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: of going for it, getting warned by the way repeatedly 200 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: by the referee Russell Mora four potential headlocks. Again he 201 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: might be saying, some of that's dirty, some of the 202 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do. And by the way, when 203 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: he grabs like this and then fires the punch across underneath, 204 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: if he did that in the second fight over and 205 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: over again too, So that was something he took from 206 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: the second fight into the third. Had a little bit 207 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: more of a pronounced effect in the second time, not 208 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: or the second fight versus the third, But nevertheless one 209 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: of the one of the things he brought along. But 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: he had to constantly wear on this guy and Deontay 211 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: Wilder man, dude, can you say with a straight face 212 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: he could have given more? I know what the argument 213 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: tends to be. It tends to be well from a 214 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: tactical standpoint, why wearrant there some of these choices made 215 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: or could he have avoided bulking up whatever extra he 216 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: may have bulked, I know the way, and was two 217 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: thirty one to two thirty eight from the second to 218 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: the third fight. But however much lean muscle mass he added, 219 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: he looked visibly fucking huge. I mean remember he was 220 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: like what two like twelve to fifteen maybe two seventeen 221 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: at the most for the first fight. I mean he 222 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: was significantly larger, and it showed, and I think it 223 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: really wore on him. In the back half of that fight. 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: But but but can you say with a straight face 225 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: he could have given more? Absolutely, you cannot. On the 226 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: night once he walked to the ring and once he 227 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: entered the ropes, was there more in terms of effort 228 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: that he could have given. Absolutely not, not at all, 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: not even a little bit. He hasked to go out 230 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: on his shield, which is what he felt like his 231 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: old trainer, Mark Brielan had denied him. Well you got 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: it this time. Don't know if that's exactly how he 233 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: envisioned it, but whatever the case, you wanted it, well, 234 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury served it up. But I will say, in 235 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: terms of what he could reasonably do tonight, he did 236 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: everything he could reasonably do. And then another and then another. Dude, 237 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: if you ever lived in New York City, you ever 238 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: seen this heroin addicts, You know, where they're in the 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: park and they'll kind of do the heroin and they 240 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of just lean and you always think they're going 241 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: to fall over, and they never fall over. You know. 242 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the sort of a crude way of comparing things, 243 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: But there was like one hundred thousand times I thought 244 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: that Deontay Wilder was gonna fall, and he just refused 245 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: over and over and over again in the back half 246 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: of that dude. That guy gave everything he had tonight. 247 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: He gave a piece of himself tonight. And frankly, maybe 248 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: the best thing that you can say for him, because 249 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: he did not win, is that the guy who did win, boy, 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: he had to earn it. He had to earn it. 251 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: He had to earn it much more than he ever 252 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: earned it in the first fight, even with that knockdown. 253 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: The first fight, he had to earn it much more, certainly, 254 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: much more than he ever did in the second one 255 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: that was a walk in the park. He had to 256 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: earn it this time, even when he was in command 257 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: in the back half, there was just Wilder was stubbornly 258 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: refusing to give him the glorious win of stoppage that 259 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: he's so desperately wanted. Right and again. He eventually he 260 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: did succumb, but he just seemed like, I know I 261 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: can't win, and he did throw punches back, But what 262 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: a will, What resilience. Again, I wouldn't recommend doing that 263 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: kind of fighting very often because it's not good for 264 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: your health. But in terms of showing I think the 265 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: kind of character that you would want someone to show 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: in a battle this significant for the division, for bragging rights, 267 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: for your legacy, for any number of things. He couldn't 268 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: have possibly done more. It's just utterly insane to demand that. Now. 269 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of the weapons that 270 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: they brought, and I have notes on each of the rounds. 271 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: We're going to go through them here in just a second. 272 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you note on Twitter, I'm 273 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: at L Thomas News. I put up a tweet where 274 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: I ask for your questions. If you reply there, I 275 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: will get to them at the end of the show. 276 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: Make sure everything is looking like it's supposed to be. Yes, 277 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: it is okay, all right, So let's talk about the 278 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: weapons they used. First. What did Wilder do different? So 279 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: he came out in that first round and for like 280 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: two minutes, if not almost the entirety of the round, 281 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: he just jabbed to the body. Dude. Malik Scott told 282 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: everybody who would listen they were going to jab to 283 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: the body over and over again. So that wasn't a surprise, 284 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: but the amount he did it, and like dude, he 285 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: went right to work. He took center of the ring 286 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: and boom he went right after it. Dude. He was 287 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: trying to send a message pretty clearly, and it was 288 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: message received. Tyson Fury kind of gave that round away 289 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: smartly in my view, like I you know, he didn't 290 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: know exactly what kind of Wilder he was getting here. 291 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: He didn't know exactly what he could expect from the 292 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: whole thing, and so he kind of took the round off. 293 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: But Wilder didn't. He stayed on him. I don't know 294 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: what I'm waiting for, compuy box. Did they post the 295 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: numbers yet? Let's see, I'm waiting for them to post 296 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the numbers so we can see because they posted the 297 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: other ones for the other fights. Let's see. Here we go. Yes, 298 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: they got punch totals. Now, oh, here we go. Great, 299 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: we got round by round totals. Excellent. All right, I'm 300 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: gonna retweet this. This is great. Okay, body bodies jab's 301 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: power total. Okay, Fury landed one hundred and fifty punches, 302 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Wilder seventy two seventy two. Okay, weapons that they used, 303 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: so you had this body jabs over and over again. 304 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: They credited both fighters with only landing eight punches in 305 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: the first but it did feel like Wilder did more 306 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: significant and better work. In fact, by the time that Wilder, 307 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, by the time that Fury went back to 308 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: his corner after the first round, he was visibly loops. 309 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Here we go, he was visibly pink in the middle. Right, 310 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm just getting touched over and over again. Okay, So 311 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: I did notice something although right away in the first 312 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: round something from Fury. He was doing this kind of 313 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: jousting jab. Sometimes he would jab and then step right. 314 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: You would see that, so the common jab and then 315 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: sometimes the jab would almost lead the step, so that 316 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: once it's extended, then there's a second step behind it, 317 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: and you use it almost like a battering ram or 318 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: a joust to get inside. When the guard was high 319 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: of Wilder Wilder, so it would pierce through the guard 320 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: and then he could pull the guard down, go over 321 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: the top, or you go to the body or clinch 322 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: or whatever you wanted to do. But it was a 323 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: sort of an effective way of sometimes driving the head 324 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: back of Wilder and then on top of it, you know, 325 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: using things in close quarter contact. We talked about overhooking, 326 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: collar tying, wrapping up the head, you know, moving him, 327 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: pushing him, leaning on him, all the things he was doing. 328 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: That's a shortcut way to get there. But the one 329 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: two's after the fainting, they were having an effect, especially 330 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: off the one kind of jousting job. By round two, 331 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: that was a Fury round for me. Round one I 332 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: gave to Wilder, Round two I gave to Fury. You 333 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: saw the first stance switch from Fury there. That was 334 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: something he brought from a little bit of the first fight, 335 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: but mostly the second fight. In the second fight, would 336 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: you would notice he would do as he would stand 337 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: sometimes orthodox he would pressure Wilder into the cage laterally, 338 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: like not from the hovering from the outside, but also 339 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: from the rope line, which would force Wilder to the 340 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: other rope line right like he would make he would 341 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: make him walk the legs of the L essentially rather 342 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: than the hypotenuse of the triangle, so to speak. And 343 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: as he would walk the big leg, the vertical leg 344 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: of the L, he would then switch stances to south 345 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Paul and then catch him on the exit. You see. 346 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes some guys in them may do that along the 347 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: fence line in different ways. That would they set it up. 348 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: But Wilder, excuse me, Fury did it this time that 349 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: that was something he took from previous encounters. In particular 350 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: the second fight, they did a lot of exchanging of 351 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: right hands. You also saw in the second round Fury 352 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: beginning to parry some of those body shots. So one 353 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: of the big stories of the fight was a lot 354 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: of early, good aggressive work was done to the body 355 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: by Deontay Wilder, so much so that I thought, again, 356 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: he won the first round. You could maybe make a 357 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: case that he won the second depending on your scorecard. 358 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: Did any of the judges have him went in the second, Yes, yes, 359 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: the Tim Cheatham had Wilder went in the second, but 360 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: he kind of got away from the job work to 361 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: the body, even anybody work at all. Sometimes he would 362 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: throw right kind of behind the gloves even that he 363 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: kind of got away from. And I had people writing 364 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: me being like, oh, well he already slowed down Fury. 365 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: It worked, he got away from it. But it doesn't 366 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: work that way. I mean, if they're really slowed down, 367 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: then maybe you could do that. And yes, you want 368 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: to hurt them early so that they slowed down later, 369 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: but you kind of you don't have to, and you 370 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: may have to. You can lower the frequency of them, 371 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: but you don't want to abandon them all together. Because 372 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: part of also that is not just that they're tired, 373 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: but now you can build feints behind that, or you 374 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: can even build at tax behind that, and then you 375 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: can go to the body much more readily. They they'll 376 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: bring their defenses down and then you can go up 377 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: top because you can greater confusion of targets. You can 378 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: change how you enter while using feints behind a body, 379 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: jab like just using it to slow a guy down 380 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: and then he's slow and you're like, oh I don't 381 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: need him anymore. No, you need him now for a 382 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: secondary purpose. But he got away from that. So while 383 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: they did I think have an effect in hurting a 384 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: little bit of Tyson Fury, they were not sufficient. They 385 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: were they were just absent later on the fight. But 386 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: part of that was some of the distance management that 387 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: was employed by Fury a little bit later. Right, he 388 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: was either all the way out or all the way in, 389 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of it, but there was when he 390 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: wasn't he got caught, and anyway, that was sort of 391 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: a big point there. Okay, I gave that round to Fury. 392 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Round three, we had Wilder mounting an effort but was 393 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: missing a lot. I noticed that like he was swinging big, 394 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: and you know he was putting. He was putting in 395 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: the work in terms of trying. He was not sitting back. 396 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: He was not waiting for Fury to start doing the 397 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: head movement and the fainting and then the stepping and 398 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: then the all the stuff. He didn't wait for that. 399 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: He kind of got busy. But it wasn't all that 400 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: successful with the landing, and that's when you really begin 401 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: to see Fury do that jousting job where it's it's 402 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: almost extended before it even lands fully so that you 403 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: can ram it straight through. It was kind of a 404 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: weird thing he was doing. And Wilder goes down in 405 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: that round. He was getting out boxed. Basically, I'm looking 406 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: at the numbers here, pulled them up from CompuBox. In 407 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: round three, Fury double his output. He ran he almost 408 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: tripled it in the second round, eleven to four, and 409 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: then he had eighteen to nine in the third round. Yeah, 410 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: he got a good shot there. I'm looking at the 411 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: overall power jabs to here. Sorry I got lost in 412 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: the data, but that's where Wilder goes down. So he 413 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: gets dropped and I'm thinking, okay, all right, see this 414 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: is where not absorbing the lessons from the second fight 415 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: really began to manifest themselves. This is where I thought 416 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: the train was coming off the tracks. But then we 417 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: get to round four. I forget exactly how he got 418 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: dropped in this one. Candidly, I have to go back 419 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: and look at my notes. But in round four, Fury 420 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: I always think it was just going to cruise to victory, 421 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: and this is where you can tell he began to 422 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: get cocky. So here's how he got dropped the first time. 423 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: Second time, I think he was just still kind of hurt. 424 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: But the first one is the more telling one. He 425 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: basically had his hands up in this range. If you 426 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: get your hands up in this range, it's that sort 427 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: of middle space range where you're not too far out, 428 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: you're not too far in, and you might be looking 429 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: to jab, jab counter, that kind of a thing where 430 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: you're just kind of you're ready to catch and shoot, 431 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: maybe in a a in a sort of a more 432 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: moderate range. But he just sort of walked. Dude, Deontay 433 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: Wilder just put his hand up in front of him 434 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: on top of the gloves, measuring him with the jab, 435 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: and then just uncorked the right and Tyson Fury just 436 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: came in on a straight line and ate it. Dude, 437 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: that is something he would have never done in the 438 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: second about. In the second about, he was the one 439 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: using stiff arms. He was the one who was getting 440 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: the stiff arm and then the lean behind it. He 441 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: was the one that was getting Wider to drop his 442 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: hands before he came in. Dude, dude, t this is 443 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: how I knew Testa Fury was like off a little bit, 444 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: even though he had gotten the third round knockdown. He 445 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: literally let Wilder measure him. Now, Wilder will sometimes measure. 446 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: We'll he'll take that second he'll take the double step 447 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: where he'll be like this and he'll kind of skip 448 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: step while he has the hand out a little bit, 449 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: and then he'll drop it right before he begins to 450 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: finally plant and then throw. You can sometimes see that, 451 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: but never have I seen him just on top of 452 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: the glove while they're just measuring Fury. I mean, dude, 453 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: that's like that's academic. If you do that, like there's 454 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: holding your hand up there a if I do this, 455 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: you can't see, right, That's the first problem, you can't see, 456 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: And the second problem is I know exactly where you 457 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: are and I know exactly how far away you are, 458 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: cub boom, and then Fury stepped into it. That was 459 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: an uncharacteristic, unforced error that we did not see the 460 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: second time around. And it wasn't like it was some 461 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: genius tactic from Wilder. I don't blame him for doing it. 462 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: It was smart in a sense that like your opponent 463 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: is letting you, if they're letting you, just do it. 464 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: And he did and he scored, and like it's all 465 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: perfectly legitimate. But we didn't see a trace of that 466 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: in uh, I think my kay woke up. We didn't 467 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: see a trace of that in the second fight now, 468 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: none whatsoever. And so he gets dropped. And when then 469 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: he gets dropped, he was so hurt and so wibbly 470 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: he could barely function and was getting teed off on it. 471 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: You could tell, like what Tyson Fury is kind of 472 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: floating in space, and you could he was doing a 473 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit of shoulder rolling and then making the U 474 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: but not really when when his feet are planted, he'll 475 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: do a little bit of this, but even then that's 476 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: usually along the ropes. He's usually got good vision when 477 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: he's covering up and then not moving dude, he has 478 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: to be very hurt, and that's exactly what you had 479 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: there a lot with that. So that was easily the 480 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: best round by Deontay Wilder by virtue of an unforced 481 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: error and then Deontay Wilder having just other worldly kinds 482 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: of power and he got him. So we go to 483 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: round five. This to me is where the fight begins 484 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: to turn off. You want to score round five four Wilder. 485 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a problem. But to me, I 486 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: don't think the fight really ever changed for the most part. 487 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: For the most part, from here you had the good 488 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: one to two step ins from far away by Tyson Fury. Right, 489 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: he would sort of be out of punching range and 490 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: then come in with the one two, sometimes jousting with 491 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: a jab, sometimes not. Wilder did land rights as he 492 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: was backed up. But this is where you really begin 493 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: to see what Fury's ultimate strategy was. I'm gonna let 494 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: that extra bulk cost him. All that leaning and pulling 495 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: and pushing and grabbing. I'm gonna keep on it. And 496 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: it's already begun to pay dividends. And to me, there 497 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a ton of activity in the round. I think 498 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: it was a big recovery round with how much clinching 499 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: had happened. Again, according to CompuBox's early stats, in round five, 500 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: the same round, same stats as round two, they have 501 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: it eleven to four in terms of total punches landed 502 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: Fury to Wilder, but still a bit of a recovery round. 503 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: I think I gave that round to Tyson Fury, although 504 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: let's see to the judges who they give round five 505 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: to Wilder and Wilder and one to Fury. So they 506 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: were kind of all over the place on that one. Okay. 507 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: So then we go to round six, and this is 508 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: for sure where Tyson Fury begins to take over. This 509 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: is where he wins virtually all the cards for all 510 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: of the judges thereafter. So Wilder at this point has 511 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: completely given up the body work. They're doing a ton 512 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: of clenching, and Fury is laying all over him, and 513 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: he was landing big shots, but you could still see 514 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: with the right hand, but you could still see Wilder 515 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: responding still. But this is also where you begin to 516 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: see some of the uppercuts from Fury and then really 517 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: pushing Wilder not just to the ropes, but then leaning 518 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: backwards like this all the way through right. But so 519 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I guess I'm pointing out is this is where the 520 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: game plan really becomes set in motion. We're gonna stand 521 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: far enough away from this guy. He's given up the bodywork. 522 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: We're not gonna let him have the bodywork to begin with. 523 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna stand far enough away in Perry. If he tries, 524 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna faint and double jab our way in. And 525 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: when we do, we're gonna throw the right hand behind it. 526 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: When we do, if it doesn't land, or even if 527 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: it does, we're gonna clinch. We're gonna pull, We're gonna push, 528 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna try it again. We're gonna push him back. 529 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna cover, and then we're gonna make sure he's 530 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: against the ropes. And they did this over and over again. 531 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: Or they would push him in the corners and then 532 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: they would try to land. You know, you would see 533 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Fury like softly touched, touch, touch, and then try and 534 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: go for a big one. And then so he's changing 535 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: up rhythm, he's changing up location, he's changing up speed, 536 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: he's changing up Look, you saw, you saw a lot 537 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: of that. I gave that round to round six to 538 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury. Round seven, wild They're on the ropes early, 539 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: eating one twos over and over again, while they're looking 540 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: visibly tired. Again. This is the part of the fight 541 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: where I'm like, dude, this guy, when is he gonna 542 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: fall over? I thought for sure it was gonna be imminent, 543 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: and it just never was. And he's becoming a lot 544 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: more predictable the the you know when when Fury used 545 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: to when Wilder's in trouble or tired, it's a lot 546 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: of the jab cross. It's a lot of the overhand right. 547 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: It's a lot of the skip jab cross, you know 548 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just a one too, maybe set 549 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: up slightly differently, but just the one too. Early in 550 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: their fight, you could see both guys going for check 551 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: left hooks, especially from Fury to Wilder when he was 552 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: level changing and going to the body. But since he 553 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: got away from that, Fury got away from that too, 554 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: extra leaning on Wilder. From this one, you had Lennox 555 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: Lewis saying Fury is smothering him himself along the ropes 556 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: because he would be called bah bah, and Fury would 557 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: excuse me. Wilder would fall against the ropes, and then 558 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: you would see Fury kind of get on top of 559 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: him a little bit, rather than giving himself enough space 560 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: to keep going. But I think he was partly tired. 561 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: He may have still been hurt. I think he just 562 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he could just keep draining this guy. 563 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that he was looking for the finish 564 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: in round seven, I guess is the point. I think 565 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: he was looking to win, and if the opportunity presented itself, 566 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: he would take it. But he was just as happy 567 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: with banking around of just draining this guy, draining this guy, 568 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: draining this guy, and then securing it something later. Again, 569 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of this. I even tweeted this. 570 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it was as intent as Ali's 571 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: rope a dope, but there were ropidope elements to it, 572 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: which was I think he knew with that bulk, that 573 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: extra bulk that Wilder had, there was gonna be a 574 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: big press early, especially when he's coming out gabbing to 575 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the body, jabitt to the body, jab into the body. Right. 576 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: He knew that there was gonna be a big push 577 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: early because Wilder wanted to set the tone. Fair enough, 578 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: set the tone, but then on the back half, that's 579 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: when Fury's gonna set the tone, and that's when all 580 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: of this began to get in motion. He was eating 581 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: hard right hands, over and over again. Round seven. By 582 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: the way, for round seven, CompuBox has sixteen to eight 583 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Fury to Wilder in terms of shots absorbed. Round eight, dude, 584 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: Wilder's just taken a beating. This is the point where 585 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Lennox Lewis notes that Wilder is circling into the power hand. 586 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: He's circling to his left into the right of Wilder. 587 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Excuse me, a Fury. Wilder keeps getting trapped in the 588 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: corners over and over again. Fury's landing hard right and 589 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: he looked slow a little bit too, I thought by 590 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: the eighth round. But you know he's winning these rounds 591 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: all the same way. Around nine, while there's trying to jab, 592 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: but Fury is pushing it back to the ropes almost 593 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: immediately at this point and just lived on there. How 594 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: he lasted, I don't know. Now. Round ten is where 595 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of the end starts to happen. Right Fury 596 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: was picking up he left off, steps in with one, 597 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: two's over and over again again. We're pressing into the ropes. 598 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: We have right hand counters a lot of times you 599 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: see Wilder throw his right and you would see potentially 600 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: a slip, sometimes a lean from Fury, and then he 601 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: would come over the top with his own punch on 602 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the same side, so it'd be this would be a 603 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: left hand counter. And Wilder went down again this time. 604 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: And how did he go down in this round? Well, 605 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: he just completely overextended on a right and he doesn't 606 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: have his legs or balance underneath him. Wilder, excuse me, Fury, 607 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: I think either slipped it or pulled it one way 608 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: or the other. I don't think he rolled underneath it, 609 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: although he may have done that too, But in either 610 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: case he was able to just land his own right 611 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: on Wilder, who at this point the punch was clean 612 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: and accurate, but it wasn't super hard. It just didn't 613 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: need to be because Wilder is already exhausted and he's 614 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: off balance. He had thrown himself off balance by just 615 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: sort of like winging a punch again. This is where 616 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: going back to the body jab. Yeah, you can slow 617 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: the guy down early. You gotta stay on that technique. 618 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: He got away from it, so he had to resort 619 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: to his old offense. Well, the old offense is a 620 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: little bit more one note, it's a little bit more predictable. 621 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Fury's got a lot of experience with it, so he 622 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: gets out of the way of it, and Wilder sets 623 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: it up in the wrong range and in the wrong 624 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: timing essentially, and gets counter for it and tastes canvas. 625 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Now he gets up and he actually rung Fury's bell 626 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. At the end of that round, Fury 627 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: got a little bit over confident in getting in his face. 628 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: But then after that round eleven is basically where the 629 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: story closes. At this point, Fury gets right in his 630 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: face over and over, devastating punches along the rope line, 631 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: always on the what you call it on the corners, 632 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: and uh, let me see, I think I retweeted the finish. 633 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: If it's still up, let's see, Oh, I may have 634 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: missed it. Let's see complex I think might have it. 635 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: Usually they have it. Sorry, I know it's a random 636 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: thing to note on the bit of the block on 637 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: this broadcast here. Let's see. Yeah, oh, they don't have 638 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: that one. They don't have the final one. I guess 639 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: they still want to sell paperview buys after the fact. 640 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: Let's see, Yeah, it's the right hand over the top. 641 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: He catches Wilder within the previous round round ten anyway, 642 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: he just absolutely cracks Wilder clean, I think, with the 643 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: right hand in around eleven, and he just goes crumbling 644 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: of the mat. Mora. I don't think read him the 645 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: ten count. He just waved it at that point. Dude. 646 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. The guy should have 647 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: been down many times before that, and it took until 648 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: the tenth and ultimately eleventh to finally seal it. But 649 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: that's essentially about how this fight went down in the 650 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: most basic detail. Again, I'm sort of dealing live with 651 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't have full and complete data. 652 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: By the way, CompuBox has round eleven eleven to two, 653 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: and then rounds ten nineteen to five in favor of Woodley. 654 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Excuse what is saying Woodley Fury over Wilder. By the way, 655 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: total punches landed Fury through three hundred and eighty five 656 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: and landed one hundred and fifty for thirty nine percent 657 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty five thrown by Deontay, but just 658 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: seventy two landing jabs thirty six to nine for Fury 659 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: versus Wilder, and then power at one fourteen to sixty 660 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: three in terms of total punches landed Fury to Wilder, 661 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: But again, obviously wild There's punches are going to be 662 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot harder than Tyson furies. So how do we 663 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: understand what happened with Deontay Wilder aside from just the 664 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: effort quick here is what ultimately he was up against. 665 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: If you wanted to drop Mark Breeland because you felt like, 666 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: in the same way, who is it? Ben Davison was 667 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: the first trainer for a Fury in the first fight, 668 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: and then he switched to Kronk, And if you wanted 669 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: to do that because you thought there was like a 670 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: real like we gotta switch things up here, I don't 671 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: mind that blaming Brilin for throwing the towel when you 672 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: were taking like just an epic beating. You know you 673 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: got what you wanted, I guess this time. So I mean, really, 674 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: this is what this third fight was about, right, because 675 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to happen. Wilder forces the issue and 676 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: arbitration wins makes the fight happen. No one really wanted 677 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: to see it. There wasn't like a huge clamoring for it. 678 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: He wanted his chance for the second fight to go 679 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: a different way through the third fight, if that makes sense. 680 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: But the reason why he ultimately couldn't get it done 681 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: is like, if you want to switch to Malik Scott. 682 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: I thought Malie Scott did a lot of for Deontay Wilder, 683 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: really did, but dude, ultimately the gap was simply too wide. 684 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: If you are thirty five years of age and the 685 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: differential showed itself to be what it was in the 686 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 1: second fight, assuming you have a reasonably similar tyson fury 687 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: and I thought this one wasn't as good as the 688 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: second one, but you know it was reasonably similar, it's 689 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: going to take pretty close to an epic miracle or 690 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, something along those lines to win, Like to 691 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: develop the difference and skill that they showed in the 692 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: second fight, you need more than twenty months. You might 693 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: need twenty years, Like twenty months is insufficient, but what 694 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: you can do in twenty months, and certainly you can 695 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: clean up some things for sure, and you could change 696 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: your body in terms of body composition and lots of things. 697 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: Some of those might be advisable, some of them might 698 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: not be. I tend to think the bulk didn't do 699 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: him a ton of good in this one he could 700 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: last a little bit longer with the wrestling you even 701 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: saw him taking. When I say wrestling, I don't mean 702 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: obviously professional or even MMA, I just mean, you know, 703 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: in those clinch positions, some of that is wrestling. In fact, 704 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: you saw Deontay Wilder taking a couple times because he 705 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: didn't want Fury putting his weight on him, not during 706 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: the fight because he was heard and didn't count his knockdowns, 707 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: but just to alleviate the pressure on him. But the 708 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: point being is this. You can clean up some things. 709 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: I thought some things were cleaned up, and you can 710 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: add new tactical elements to achievable strategies, but you really can't. 711 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: You can't fix gaping differentials and skill. You can make 712 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: an incremental bump a real one, and again, in a 713 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: game of inches, an incremental bump if the fight is 714 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: close enough, is all you need. Against a force that overwhelming, 715 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: it's simply not enough. So I credit Wilder with he 716 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: clearly trained hard for this fight, he clearly added some 717 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: new tactical dimensions, and I don't think that the bulk 718 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: serviced him all that much, but he made a good 719 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: faith attempt of it, and he went eleven rounds. He 720 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: put in a much better showing in certain ways than 721 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: even the first fight. Not merely by virtue of dropping Fury, 722 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: although that's certainly the biggest one, but just the desire 723 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: to take command of the fight at least early, or 724 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: trying too early. I know he got dropped himself in 725 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: the third, but you're just asking too much. This is 726 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: what I mean when I say like, could you have 727 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: asked Deontay Wallader to do more? Again? You know, if 728 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: you ask me personally to go in there and do something, 729 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do it. If you 730 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: ask Lomachenko or you ask a real boxer, they're gonna 731 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: be able to do it. And it doesn't matter if 732 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: I have twenty months to try this. It's too much 733 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: of a difference. That's an exaggerated example, but I'm just 734 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: sort of pointing out. I make this all the time 735 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: for my MMA broadcast and the MMA fans. I'm always 736 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, X went to go train 737 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: with Why, and why is really good at something. It's like, well, dude, 738 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: you can go run with Usain Bolton. You can train 739 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: with him for five years. It will get you a 740 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: lot faster than you are, but you're not going to 741 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: get on the Olympic team from that. You got to 742 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: do a lot more than that. So and it's just 743 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: not achievable in that time scale, especially for an advanced 744 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: athlete at thirty five, where the only kinds of gains 745 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: you can make beyond body composition are fairly minimal. I 746 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: mean they can be again, they're significant. If your opponent 747 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: is pretty equal to you, any little improvement will go 748 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: a long way. You saw pretty big improvements, I think, 749 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: all things being equal, relatively speaking from Deontay Wilder. But 750 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: even with those improvements, and even with Tyson Fury, perhaps Fury, 751 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: excuse me off a step or two, the gap was 752 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: still too wide. You know. First half of that fight, Bonker. 753 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: Second half of that fight fun and interesting and thrilling 754 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: in certain ways, to be clear, But it was the 755 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury show from the sixth round on basically, And 756 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: it was because once it got back once it was 757 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: back to what are your you know, once both guys 758 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: have been dropped, both guys are a little tired, both 759 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: guys are a little hurt. Both guys are have had 760 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: some good rounds. I've had some bad rounds. Once that's 761 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: all over, and all that new strategy you were trying 762 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: to put in doesn't really work anymore or whatever, and 763 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: you're just kind of reduced back to your more or 764 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: less these are high level professionals, but your basic boxing ability. 765 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: Once it got back to that, Fury couldn't basically lose 766 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: unless he just made a cataclysmic error. Right Once all 767 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: that extra stuff was boiled out of the fight and 768 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: you just got down to who they were and what 769 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: they represented and how much they actually had as a 770 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: sort of go to level amount of skill, Tyson Fury 771 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: was just much better. He was much better. What a 772 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: win for him. He retains his WBC title, the lineal title, 773 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. He kept it for whatever 774 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: that is worth. And the question, of course, is what 775 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: comes next. WBC has ordered that I think the winner 776 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: of this fight has to either fight the winner of 777 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: Usik and Joshua two or has to fight I think 778 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 1: Dillion White versus the winner of Dillion White versus Auto 779 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: Valleen something like that. Let me double check that. I 780 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: don't want to get that completely wrong here on the broadcast. 781 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this on. What did the I was 782 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: the WBC that ordered it, or IBF that ordered something similar. 783 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Let's see, I will have to find it, but I 784 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: believe that is Oh, here we go. Yes, WBC rules 785 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: that Fury Wilder three winner must face Alexander Usik. Sorry, 786 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: not even Anthony Joshua, but Alexander Usik or the White 787 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: Dillion White versus Auto Volleen Winter next. So you might 788 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: be asking what happens to Fury and Joshua. I don't know. Obviously, 789 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: with Joshua today and his team kicked into gear, they 790 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: triggered the rematch clause that they had with Usik, so 791 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get that. And again, I guess Fury, if 792 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: he wants to keep this belt, I guess he could 793 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: always give it away. If he wants to keep this belt, 794 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: would have to fight Usik or Dillion White or Auto 795 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: Volleyen Vali. As you know, he's already fought before, one 796 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: of the more interesting fights of tests, and Fury's carewer 797 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: for certain reasons, but you get the idea. Actually, Tyson, 798 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: Fury just pulled this up here real quick, uh, just 799 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: to double check something here. Let's see here, Yeah, yeah, 800 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: he's beaten Cizora twice, but he's not fought doing in White, Okay, 801 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: and there we are. What a fight. That's the best 802 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: heavyweight fight I've seen in a long time. That's easily 803 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: fight of the year in boxing. That's I think. I 804 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: think Fury proved that, even not necessarily on his best day. 805 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the best heavyweight in boxing on the 806 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: planet Earth. I definitely think he beats Joshua. I think 807 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: he beats Usik obviously. Wilder, He's had three fights against 808 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: He won two of them convinced well more or less convincing, 809 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: and then the third one you can argue that he 810 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: should have gotten But whatever the case, I don't think 811 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: he'd lose to Andy Ruiz. You know, these are all 812 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: just my opinions, but that's sort of where I put him. 813 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: I think he's easily the best heavyweight in the planet. 814 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where Wilder goes from here. Though. Wilder 815 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I think did himself a lot of favors in terms 816 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: of you know, he I don't really think he ever 817 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: reconciled with what happened in the second fight, but he 818 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: did recommit himself to be more than he was in 819 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: the second fight. He didn't think that he could just 820 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: do the exact same things and the circumstances would work out. 821 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: He did realize that he needed more. There was there 822 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: was there's a difference to me to be there, and 823 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: he explored that, I think as much as he humanly 824 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: could given the conditions. But at thirty five years of age, 825 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: with now this loss and this is you know, in 826 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: terms of the punishment he took, Dude, Tyson Fury dished 827 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: out a lot of punishment on Deontay wad. We keep 828 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that the guy didn't fall over 829 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: for like nine fucking rounds and we thought he was. 830 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: It's because he was eating bombs a lot. So you know, 831 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: credit to him for doing that. But you know, there's 832 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: a question of how fast all recovered does even want 833 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: to He had flirted with the idea of retirement prior 834 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: to this contest. It puts him in a weird space 835 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: where I think he can still be in big fights. 836 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: I think he has elevated his name. But Dude Tyson 837 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: Fury and Deontay Wilder tremendously elevated their names through this rivalry, 838 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: especially now that it has crescendoed in the way that 839 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: it has with this third fight being the best of 840 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: the three, they've truly elevated themselves in terms of global 841 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: sports fandom, in terms of what the fights mean for 842 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: the heavyweight division, in terms of I think how people 843 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: view them. But at the same time, it's hard to 844 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: know exactly where Wilder would want to go from here. 845 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: They could they're both PBC guys, so you could potentially 846 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: do a Wilder Andy Ruiz fight maybe, I suppose down 847 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: the line. Maybe there's ways. I'm not exactly sure this 848 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: full state of Deonte's contract, about what it would mean 849 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: for potential crossover fights with some of the guys from Europe. 850 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how any of that works. I can 851 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: only hope that we can find a way to get 852 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: there closer. But on this day, on October ninth, twenty 853 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: twenty one, it seemed to me that Tyson Fury had 854 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: to deal with real and in many ways unexpected adversity, 855 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: but deal with it he did. And I think that 856 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 1: while no fighter is perfect, he's the guy to beat. 857 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: That's the one that's the guy that's the top dog 858 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: at heavyweight, no doubt about it in my mind. And 859 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's the Usik fight all along as the one 860 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: that we needed. Usik certainly did the job against Joshua. 861 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: We can say that. I guess we'll have to see 862 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: how the rematch goes. But what a character singing after 863 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: the whole fact and everything else. Pretty amazing, all right, 864 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: So do me a favor. If you are so inclined, 865 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button and I'm going to answer your questions. 866 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: All right. Oh, my friend Gatham, Gatham Nagesh, who's a beast. 867 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: He used to live in DC. I think he lives 868 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: in the West Coast or something now. Anyway, he says, 869 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: Barnburner played out according to the script. But man, it 870 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: was so much better than we could have hoped for. 871 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: We saw the absolute best of both fighters, and also 872 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: their flaws exposed. Fury showed that deeper reservoir of willpower 873 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: that only champions have. Couldn't have set it better? Myself 874 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: totally agree. This person writes, I'm already seeing people saying 875 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: best heavyweight boxing match ever. I don't know about that, 876 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 1: but it's a good one. For some reason. When they're 877 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: lunging into each other and circling, it looks very sloppy. 878 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: Do you get what I mean? No, I don't. Do 879 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: you think Fury wasn't consistently sharp. I don't think he was. 880 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: He had extra gears. He showed a level of guts 881 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: and will and skill and just veteran and competitor savvy 882 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: to make it that back half of the fight what 883 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: it was. But no, I don't, I don't. I don't 884 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: think he was fully sharp. Was Wilder's strategy effective into 885 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: the middle rounds? I think he got away from it 886 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: in the middle rounds candidly and again I think you 887 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: can't the dude wildish power. You can't fucking play games 888 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: with it. And Fury played games with it, but that 889 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 1: wasn't the same per se as Wilder like backing Fury 890 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: down and then creating openings and then blitzing him. Doude. 891 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: One of the big knocks that's always been there on 892 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,959 Speaker 1: Wilder is he has a hard time creating openings. He's 893 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: good at taking advantage of openings people present to him, 894 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: but he has a hard time going to a exchanging 895 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: off from someone and then if their defense is solid, 896 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: getting that to slowly break down and then work around it. 897 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: He kind of just has to pressure a guy sometimes, 898 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: work behind the jab a little bit to get someone 899 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: to commit, and then he just bombs on them more. 900 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: He just sort of overwhelms them with firepower, even through 901 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: covered up gloves like Berman Staverne or Brazil or something. 902 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: Someone's like, Hey, your stuff's awesome. How do we contribute? 903 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: You want to contribute? Hit that subscribe button. That's how 904 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: you contribute. Has Furious surpassed Canelo as the biggest star 905 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: in the sport? No, I don't think they're they're they're 906 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: They don't do the same business, believe it or not, 907 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: but he's getting there. Wilder opens as a favorite over Joshua, right, 908 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: I would a Wilder m That's the one to make, 909 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because in the case of Joshua, he's clearly 910 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: a better boxer than Wilder, but he's vulnerable. And in 911 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: the case of Wilder, he's not the boxer Joshua is, 912 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: but he can fucking thump, boy, he can thump. That's 913 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: a great fight. That's a great fight. Wilder versus Joshua. 914 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: I guess I would pick Wilder, but I don't know, 915 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, because again Joshua would box circles around him. 916 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: Fury versus Usik, I think Usik if Fury is the 917 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: Fury from the second Wilder fight where he's really dialed 918 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: in and he's putting. He's putting, trying to put usick 919 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: on his heels. I think he wins. Wilder looked tired early. 920 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that extra weight played a part in this? 921 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt it played an extra 922 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: part in this. And I gotta tell you, you know, 923 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: we didn't really see his legs, and a lot of 924 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: that is just sort of genetically the way he's built. 925 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: A lot of that bulk looked like it came from 926 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: his shoulders and back and chest, you know. And I 927 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: get that it's part of the punching power and that's 928 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: what you need for the clinch, but dude, you also 929 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: need your legs under You need your balance under you. 930 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: And I guess he doesn't want to They don't want 931 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: to play games with that bulk. But to be so 932 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: top heavy you create imbalances like that, you know, Like 933 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: it was just it's telling that the guy showing you 934 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: his bench press, which, by the way, none of those 935 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: presses count because he's got more. I mean, he should 936 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: have called it as he didn't show us any squats. 937 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: My point is that you should have showed us some squats. 938 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: But maybe they were squats with how much leg drive 939 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: was on those bench presses. I mean, dude, your ass 940 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: has to be on the mat, and if you're driving 941 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: with your legs so your your ass comes all the 942 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: way off the mat through the press. None of that counts. Okay, 943 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: just but no it Look you're being pedantic. No, that's 944 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: that's how bench pressing works. But okay, seeing as Fury 945 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: got dropped twice and was obviously feeling the power, can 946 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: we say the only thing Wilder could have done better 947 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: was more cardio to come and prepare for the later rounds. Again, 948 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: if you want to say that there was better ways 949 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: he could have prepared, sure, but one I'm sure he 950 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: trained extremely hard for this. Yes, there's of course critical 951 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: criticisms to make of the preparation. Of course, of course, 952 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: when I say could he have done more? I mean 953 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: when he walked through the ropes on it once it 954 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: was all baked in and it was on that night 955 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: what you were going to give? Could you say that 956 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 1: that Wilder could have given more? I really don't think 957 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: you can. Should Fury fight an easy fight and stay active, 958 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 1: I hope it's heavyweight boxing. The lightweight division of the 959 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: UFC no, no, this was over. In the fourth he 960 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: got two extra long paused counts. I know andre Ward 961 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: was screaming about that. I need to go and see 962 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: that for myself. I didn't really pay attention in real time. 963 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: When I think about Furious. Footwork in the fight in 964 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: the back half was great. In the first half it 965 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit lazy. Do you think Wilder's corner 966 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: should have thrown the towel. I wouldn't have been mad 967 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 1: if they had thrown it after the tenth shit, even 968 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe before that, to be honest with you, but certainly 969 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: after the tenth after he got knocked down, he looked bad. 970 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know they want he Wilder requested 971 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: to get concussed, So careful what you wish for. Do 972 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: you think their first fight was the best of the trilogy, 973 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: considering it ended in a draw. No, Fury was more 974 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: to This fight was much more exciting, and both fighters 975 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: brought more offense this time. What song do you prefer 976 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: Fury sing next to you? Whatever the fuck he wants? Man, 977 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: that guy's an original. How much more of a chance 978 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: would Wilder have if you had better Cardio better? I 979 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 1: don't think that back half would have been so one 980 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: sided at all. Do you think Wilder really improved a lot? 981 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: I do. I do, But again, you're talking about a 982 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: level of improvement that is a meaningful increment, but just increment. 983 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: It's not exponential. It's a you understand. Like again, most 984 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: of the time, guys are so close that just a 985 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: little bit of an edge. Bamn, that's all you need, right, 986 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: That's just enough to beat the guy and beat many 987 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: of your peers. So adding these tactical changes, adding cleaning 988 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: some things up over the course of twenty months, boy, 989 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: that can do a lot, you know. But the problem 990 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 1: is on the other side of things. If the gap 991 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: between you and your opponent is so large and you're 992 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: thirty five years of age, it's there's just not enough 993 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: time and there's not enough physical capacity. Frankly, does Wilder 994 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: fight Aj next? AJ is gonna fight Usick next for 995 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: the second time? Where does Fury go from here? I 996 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: don't know if he even keeps fighting. To be honest 997 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: with you, I think he will, but I don't. I 998 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: think he wants to just beat all the top guys 999 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: and then call it a day. Is there a possibility 1000 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: that Wilder comes out with an excuse as to why 1001 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: he lost. Oh, I'm sure he will. You know, the 1002 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: fact that he didn't shake Tyson Fury's hand at the 1003 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: end of this tells me that he's probably going to 1004 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: have an excuse at the end of this one. Yeah, 1005 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm afraid. Have you ever seen a heavyweight with a 1006 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: stamina of Fury Kane Kane Velasquez. But that's a long 1007 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: time ago. Let me just say something to you about 1008 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: heavyweight boxing versus MMA. This is what Brian Campbell and 1009 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: I are always trying to tell you. Folks, like dude, 1010 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: pound for pound, you know, whatever you're If you're new 1011 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 1: to why watch me. If you're a big boxing fan, 1012 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: please don't get offended by this. You know, fight to fight, 1013 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll prefer to watch MMA over boxing just because it 1014 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: appeals to me a little bit more. And again, in general, 1015 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: I think you get a little bit more action with 1016 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: your typical MMA fight than you do your boxing fight. 1017 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: But dude, a big boxing main event, in this case, 1018 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: a heavyweight trilogy that played out the way that it did, Dude, 1019 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: there's just nothing like that in MMA. And again, it's 1020 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 1: a personal preference. You might disagree, and that's fine if 1021 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: you do. But when you get, you know, seventh, eighth, ninth, 1022 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: tenth round. They're shorter rounds, but the chapters in the 1023 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: book are much are They're richer and more significant, and 1024 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: the plot twists are so much more pronounced and frankly ubiquitous, 1025 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: and there's just a lot more drama that goes into 1026 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 1: it here. There's just nothing like that, man, and by 1027 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 1: almost by rules, MMA can't really compete in that sense. 1028 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think Tyson abandoned the fainting compared to 1029 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: the previous performance is great question. I don't fucking know. 1030 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Someone says Wilder dictated things when he 1031 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: came out at the start with hard body shots, all 1032 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: the more reason to faint going forward, not to sit 1033 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: back and absorb them. And also if you're just one 1034 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: note with him, like no, that's not the reason heavyweight 1035 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 1: boxing looks so sloppy to me compared to the lighter weights. 1036 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate boxes like Mayweather and his skills so much. 1037 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: Besides the UKA possibility, what am I missing everything? Oh, 1038 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: here's the end of the fight. Upper cut off a 1039 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: frame all right hand after a left is what got 1040 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: him Jesus Christ, Oh man, I don't want to there 1041 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,240 Speaker 1: we go. Let's see yeah, miss with the left, oh 1042 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: on the fence line. Yeah. Russell morrisaid he'd seen enough. Wow, wow, Wow. 1043 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: What's next for Wilder? He'll never get a rematch. I 1044 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: tend to think maybe he fights, maybe he fights Ruiz, 1045 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: maybe one of the European guys. This may be at 1046 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: for him, folks. That's also a possibility as well. All right, 1047 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: let me just double check on something here. What a fight? 1048 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: What a fight? Now? You might be asking, what about 1049 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: the other fights on the card, A Jagba versus Sanchez. 1050 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: I think there was the Anderson and Tereshkin, as well 1051 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: as the other fight I'm missing on the card. Oh, 1052 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: the Kovnatchki and helen Is rematch, which was shocking. Helenus 1053 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: beat his ass. I mean that wasn't even close. We'll 1054 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: get to all of that on Monday's Morning Combat. So 1055 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: on Monday, on Monday at eleven am in the East, 1056 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: me Brian Campbell, who's been on CBS Sports all night. 1057 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna get together. We're gonna talk about this fight, 1058 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: and then on Wednesday I'm gonna be in studio with him, 1059 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: and then Friday we're gonna be in studio. So like, 1060 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: next week's gonna be great together. It's a big week 1061 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: next week. So let me just say, for the folks 1062 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: who watch, thank thank you so much, thumbs up, hit subscribe, 1063 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: what did you think of the fight? Leave a comment, 1064 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 1: let us know, and then join us together. On eleven AM, 1065 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: we'll recap all the weekends boxing. We'll recap all the 1066 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: weekends UFC for MMA fans out there, we got a 1067 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: ton of stuff coming out and of course MK extra credit. 1068 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: I'll get to all the fights from the MMA side 1069 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: that we didn't even get to on regular MK. So 1070 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: we got tons and tons of content coming your way. 1071 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: Please like and subscribe, Like and subscribe, and thank you 1072 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: guys so much. I really appreciate you. And that's it 1073 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: for me. But until next time, get some sleep.