1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, this is media mash, 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, wisdom and offering take on 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: New East Scrugs emergency media mash. Let's right, emergency emergency. 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: We have things to talk about, we have things to 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: wrap up, and we do it with Clarence Hill, The 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: foot Worth Star Telegram, Nick Eatman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: originating done greater and nobody tweets it better. Nobody gets 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: the videos out quicker than our man. John Machoda of 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: the Athletic I'm merely knew he Scrugs helped facilitate the conversation. Um, 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: there have been some coaching moves made by football team. 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: So Nick, since you worked for the team, Oh, hey, 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: let you start with the announced all these fine gentlemen 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: that they decided to Hey, thank you for your services 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: and we wish you well in your futuring divers Oh 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: you want to just take one or go down? Okay, 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: I'll send the one to me that is the most surprising, 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: and that's offensive line coach Joe Philbin, and I thought 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line has showed not only growth, um, they 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: showed flexibility, versatility. And then you know, there's been some 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: some linemen over the last two or three years that 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: have really I didn't think Tyler be honest, and and 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: also Terrence Steele would be playing at that level and 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, So Joe Philbin not getting renewed, that's the 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: one that sticks out the most for me. Yeah, that'll 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: be interesting too if everything goes to plan for the 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys and their offensive tackles for the next eight to 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: ten seasons are Terrence Steele and Tyler Man, who you know, 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: obviously Joe Philbin helped develop and bring along, so that 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: is I would say. So when I saw the list, 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: I would say that, yeah, that and then George Edwards 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: would be one for me too, just because, um, I 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: think he did a lot to bridge some gaps, uh 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: and obviously helped with Michael Parsons and that linebacker group, 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: and so I did not think. I mean, he's a 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: guy that you know, some talked about if Dan Quinn 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: gets a head coaching job, that George Edwards could be DC. 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Obviously hasn't experienced being DC for a long time with 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: the Vikings. So um, that one surprised me. And I think, um, 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: even though he didn't say surprised, Uh, just judging by 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons tweet, I bet you Mike is a little surprised. 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: And and and George was was surprised, and Skip Pete 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: was surprised, you know. And I mean you could say 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: skip Pete. I mean Tony Poler's in the Pro Bowl, 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, and and the way he maximized and you 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: got Zeke to take a step back, you know, there 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: were all surprises and and my boots back. You can't 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: say surprised, I mean sorry, but yeah, I mean George Edwards, 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: you know what he's done with Michael Parsons and and 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: and that lineberger Rup when you brought up the fact 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: that he could potentially we thought, at least we thought 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: that's the problem that we don't know nothing. We thought 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: he was a potential candidate or place. You know, Dan Quinn, 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: he's out of here. Just you know, from my understanding, 56 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: he was shocked at surprise that that that that he was. 57 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Let go, Um, I mean, let's let's not forget too 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: when you're talking about surprises and also what this kind 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: of means and who's making the ultimate decisions here. When 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: the head coach loses his right hand man and the 61 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: assistant coach Rob Davis, that makes you kind of wonder too, 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: of you know, you brought him here, what did he 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: do and he I mean, yeah, he didn't probably do anything. 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: You know. It makes me kind of wonder is Jerry 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: said it last year? Jerry did say he counted by number. 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: There's twenty nine coaches here, and it didn't look like 67 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: he was okay with that number. So it makes you wonder, 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: are they are they Are they just trimming this down, 69 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: trimming this number down? Well, I mean, yeah, well you 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: got you know, assistant you know, Leon Let and some 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: other stuff. But George, hold on, hold on the Dallas 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys or if we're just if we're just gonna keep 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: it real, the Dallas Cowboy should have the highest paid 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: head coach, has paid offensive corner defensive coordinator, and the 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: biggest coaching staff, the biggest scouting staff, the best, the 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: best of everything with the money that the Dallas Cowboys 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Acati mingles Well, I'm just saying and none of the 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: things I just said are true that they aren't in 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: any of those areas. But and then to the next 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: point that that was that is a good point that 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: you bring it up. He did mention that is so 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: you I guarantee, maybe he looks at it like there's 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: nine people trying to make Thanksgiving dinner. You know, maybe 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: there needs to be two, Maybe there needs to be one, 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, maybe the whole cooks in the kitchen. 86 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: That that could be part of what he's saying. There's 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: do we need twenty nine? I just I just believe that. Again, 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: not being from here, but have now having lived here 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: for about, you know, twelve years, I feel like on 90 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: the on the outside, people think that the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the perception is every single thing, every everything you look at, 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: from like team plane to the food they eat, everything 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: like that stadium, everything like coaching staff, everything non salary 94 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: cap wise, they are and even with the salary cap 95 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: that they're at the very top of every single thing. 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: I've seen this before when I covered the team website, 97 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: when I covered the Lakers, it was like, hey, you 98 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: know they do this first class, you do that, but 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay the coaches. It's just what 100 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't what they do by the way, um, Leon, 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: let let's go to that real quick. The Lakers don't 102 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: really knew. He was shaking his head for those driving 103 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: in the car. No no, no, no no. And this 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: was back when I'm just thinking Phil and and so 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: and so what happened? Bill had a big chair what 106 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: so So this was prey. I got their pre film 107 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: when I got there. Del Harris was the coach. Okay, yeah, 108 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: and then they fired him and brought in Kurt Ramason. 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: That whole summer, the whole thing was about you know what, man, 110 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: you're cheap, you won't spend, and that ended up motivating 111 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: Bust to go out and get kill Jack. That is 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I guess you're right. That is a good perception thing, 113 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: because I would never think that about the Lakers. I 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: would think that the the Lakers do spend as much as 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about for a GM or whatever. Look, 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: he let he let Shaquel Nill go because he want 117 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: to pay him. And Kobe He's like, ain't paying too match, 118 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: It's just you know so so a lot of times 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: there is a perception. Parcels great. One of the great 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: lines he had was a perception is reality. Yeah, and 121 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: so that's what people thought but everybody's got their thing. 122 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: But but I don't know if we know one hundred 123 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: percent that this is down to Jerry not wanting to 124 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: pay twenty nine coaches as a prop to maybe there 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be twenty nine coaches. You know, maybe 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you're looking at when we won three Super Bowls and 127 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff like what it was then. 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: And I know that times are different, analytics and all 129 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: that stuff, but I still think, well, the Rob Davis 130 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: one's interesting to me because the only other coach I 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: covered here was Garrett and he didn't have like an 132 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: assistant head coach like that. So was there any other 133 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: coaches before Garrett did that had like a person in No? 134 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: And so again I wanted, I wanted to say that 135 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: these were Mike McCarthy's decision. But when you when you 136 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: when you do Rob David, that tells you that it 137 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: may have come from the top, which is, you know, 138 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: disappointing because if you're telling the man who can have 139 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: one of staff, why are you keeping him? Okay that 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: why why why are you keeping him? You get rid 141 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: of six coaches? You know, we're blowing this thing up 142 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: because you like him, but we're getting rid of six coaches, 143 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: you most likely gonna lose Dad question. So they're gonna 144 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: be more staff upheaval, you know, and no telling who's 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna take with him. You know, if he gets 146 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: the head coaching job right now, he can only take 147 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: one Okay, okay, one I said, no telling who he 148 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: can take with it, so he can still take him 149 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: out them, so it's Dan and another whatever. I'm just 150 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: saying though that what are we doing? You know, well, 151 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: what's the path forward? How are you gonna take the 152 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: next Stephen because last year we came into the season saying, 153 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: the reason you're gonna be better in twenty twenty two 154 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: is because the continuity, chemistry, the experience we got from 155 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. We're all back, we're all the year old, 156 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: and we got the staff together down. Everybody's going the 157 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: same pay, the same offense. We're ready to take the 158 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: next step. They failed to take the next step. They 159 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: had the same record. Ultimately, they failed to take the 160 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: next step, and they went out and they went around 161 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and farther in the class they didn't take. They didn't 162 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: with This next step to me is getting to the 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game in there close to the Super Bowl. 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: They didn't do that, and now that smile. Now now 165 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: you're blowing the staff up and with the owners next 166 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: year that you must take the next step, because six 167 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: coaches gone this year, next year is gonna be McCarthy. Yeah, 168 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: there's no question about that. And now you have to 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: do it with the whole new staff, implementing new systems 170 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: potentially because we still don't know what's going on with 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, you know, and there's still some other coaches 172 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: contracts up that they haven't been decided yet, you know. Uh. 173 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: But so let me say this though, that it does 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: the Rob Davis looks like it's it's it's coming from 175 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: somewhere else. But like Leon what I mean, he can't 176 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: lee on that because that's a favorite of Jerry. But 177 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: they didn't keep lee on. Let I'm talking about Jason's 178 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about from Jason's staff. I know, I know, 179 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean from Jackson's. That's why I'm saying. My point 180 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: is is that it's hard to just look at these 181 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: and go all right, they have one you know, one 182 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: meaning behind all of them, you know, because it's like, well, 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: that looks like Jerry's saying that's let's trim some coaches. 184 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: This one looks like you might have said, well you 185 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: get robbed, David, I'm getting your bunney on that, and mind, yeah, 186 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: that's the way it works, you know. But but but 187 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: we just mentioned Cavalara by name since here, Yeah, Kyle 188 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: is the guy who was another as another guy who 189 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: came from the Jason Garret staff as well. So and 190 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: then you know, you talked about Fieldman, but I got 191 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: I go back to Pete. You know again, peace departure 192 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: does not bowl well for the future of Zekiel because 193 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: they're they're tight, and they have a connection with the agent, 194 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: and that whole group is upset. I don't I don't 195 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: like that move. I really don't. I look at it 196 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard had the best year of his career 197 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: and not and I think Zeke had a better year 198 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: this year than he did last year. Missed just a 199 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: couple of games, was close to a thousand uh tall touchdowns. 200 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean the vision that Skips kept saying a training 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: camp was it worked right, and then Malik Davis looks 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: like a pretty good young back and and all of 203 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: us fumbled as many times as they did this year, right, 204 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a good year for 205 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: the running back. I mean the entire time I've covered 206 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: the team, I've never had a problem with the running 207 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: backs coach. I mean it's been basically the whole time, 208 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: it's either been Skippeter I think they both have done 209 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: they were both at X. Yeah. So so none of 210 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: you know it, and you know, like I said, it 211 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense. But I'm just saying 212 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: that if you want to project, you know, you get Skip. 213 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: It does not look good for Zick's future here yet. 214 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: And I know it's you know, it was all the 215 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: story that you know, Zeke wants to come back, he's 216 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: willing to take a Yes, he's willing to pay cut. 217 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Of course, he's willing to take a PIA cut. The 218 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: question that do the Cowboys won him even at a 219 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: reduce salary. My thing though that you mentioned that great 220 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: that stood out to me is the thing about the 221 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: changing coordinators and you got to change the schemes and 222 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: everything like that. One, I don't think you change a 223 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: lot of the schemes. You're gonna bring in someone that, hey, 224 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: how are you gonna best utilized if if there is 225 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: a change of defensive coordina. If dan Quinn does get 226 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: a job, also, there will not be anywhere close to 227 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: it a change that there was from going from twenty 228 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: if you hire the right defensive coordinator from twenty twenty 229 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one, I mean, going from what they 230 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: did with my Nolan to what they did with dan 231 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Quinn in one year, the way they turned around. I mean, 232 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with the players 233 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: you have, and so a lot of those players there, 234 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: the key players are going to be back. So I mean, yes, 235 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: it will be a transition. It's not gonna be smooth. 236 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna you know, there's gonna be bumped along the road. 237 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying this isn't like college. We're just 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: like they're changing up the whole scheme. But but everybody 239 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: don't communicate what dan Quinn does, and every coach is 240 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: not you know, let me just say, when you have 241 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons in this defense, if dan Quinn does leave, 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: this is a very attractive defensive coordinator job. Agree. So 243 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of head coaches out there that have 244 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: been released in the last two two years that would 245 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: gladly be the defensive Corda scene. They're very good. No, 246 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: God God never who who was who said that he 247 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: had the book out on Jack Prescott last year? You go, 248 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: it's certainly an option. But Joe wit too, I mean, 249 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: Joe wid still here, Joe. Question is about that though, 250 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: because of the fact of if you look at Mike 251 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: McCarthy's track record, his defensive coordinator is generally someone who 252 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: has head coaching experience. So do we expect any more changes? 253 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: We're getting ready to talk to Mike McCarthy the top 254 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: of the hour. You can watch it on Dallas Cowboys 255 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Or do you think this is it? Well? 256 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think the quarterback coaches is up. I 257 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: mean I don't know that, you know, the U the uh. 258 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I can't even think of Scott McCurley. I think his 259 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: contracts up, you know, the linebacker coach, Scott McCurley. Yeah, 260 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so what do we do there? You know, 261 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: and then you get rid of George that would you 262 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: keep McCurley. You know McCurley we failed, you know, in 263 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: his first year. And and I guess I go back 264 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: to you saying the decision the defensive coordinator for Mike 265 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: McCarthy made a bad to sit on the first to 266 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: keep Deferen's coordinator. Sure, you know, so it's not a 267 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: home run. It's not guarantee that that that you're going 268 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: to get. Everybody in this building if they could sign 269 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: off on it would be like, we gotta do whatever 270 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: we can to keep dan Quinn. But I'm just saying 271 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to keep. No, no, no, all 272 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: of that. So so I don't there could be more 273 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: people like I said, you know, and and again that's 274 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: why it's you know, how do you feel good after 275 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: way this season ended, when all when all the coaching changes. 276 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: What makes you feel good going into the offseason right now? Well, 277 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: let me ask you this before the answer that I 278 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: say this. Mike Nolan and dan Quinn, I mean, obviously 279 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: huge difference, right. Would you rather have Mike Nolan and 280 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons or dan Quinn and and Layton Vanderesh like 281 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: he had. I still think dan Quinn would do more 282 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: with what Mike Nolan did with that defense, you'd rather 283 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: so you would rather have? Not asking because because you're 284 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: trying to get me on the gat you I'm not. No, 285 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get on trying to say, don't 286 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: deal with hypothetical. Okay, but but you're saying, like, oh, 287 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: what a huge difference it was between Nolan and I'm 288 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: not I'm Mike Nolan apologiz question. I'm just saying, but 289 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons was. I'm very pro players, So I'm really 290 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: torn on this. Okay. But but but I guess what 291 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: I'm saying is this, I'm I've been around asked the question. No, 292 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: I've been around here for a long time, okay, and 293 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: we've had great defensive coordinates before Rod Marnelli who were 294 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: rigid and what they were kid who were rigid and 295 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: what they were doing rigid and what they were doing 296 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and how they used players. One reason why this guy 297 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: named Watt wasn't here, okay, because he didn't fit the profile. 298 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: So you can say that everybody would do what they 299 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: did with Mike, I don't know that because some people 300 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: would pitcheonhold him and say you're a linebacker, you're gonna 301 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: play a linebacker? Okay, So everybody don't see the vision. 302 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: I've been around there with coaches who are great, consider 303 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: great divins, coordinators who pitched who say this is how 304 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: we do things that we've always done thing and we're 305 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: not doing any other way that's fair. I don't know 306 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: if if dan Quinn was the one that got him 307 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: say let's rush to the password. Let's take a break. 308 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: We knew it was gonna be when we come back. 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Breaking news that is affecting one of the Dallas Cowboys coaches. 310 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Let's dive into that next with John A show to 311 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: the athletic Nick eaton Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Clarence Hill 312 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: Fort Worth Star Telegram has breaking news. Who go handle 313 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: that right here? During the break up, we scuts this 314 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: the medimash or Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Todd thought 315 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: it would be secure to jog and the cheatahs. 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Visit 352 00:16:51,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: United Agginturf dot com for more. To mediamash Mediamah, here 353 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: we are second segment. Fireworks in the first one. Good 354 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: debate here with John Shot of the Athletic We got 355 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Nick Eaton Dawascott was that co and the oldest longest 356 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: tenured beat rider on the Cowboys. He is. Clarencey Hill 357 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: saw his first road road playoff win last week. Yeah, 358 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: that's right, it did right, which technically wasn't a step 359 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: because you said that they didn't take a step for 360 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: last year. That was that was a step for you. 361 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: Update that bio on your Twitter page. I did, I did, 362 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: I did. I had to playoff win. I already did question. 363 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: This is not on the sheet. Why is it when 364 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: you take that selfie on the airplane after on the 365 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: road trip? Why why you always look before before? I'm 366 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: not mad, I know it's it's first of all, I 367 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: know it was early in the morning that that one 368 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: wasn't I mean, it was early in the morning. And 369 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: so I'm not happy even when you believe though, even 370 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: when you're going to the place you've got that like 371 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: the little bubbles that is like really, you know, like 372 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: he's got okay, okay, sir, sir, I know you're not 373 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna be cheesing, Like, yeah, I'm not gonna be cheese 374 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: And so I'm trying to First of all, you're trying 375 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: to take itself. You got people walking around you, so 376 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to do it quick and you know, and 377 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a lot of things going on 378 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: out it. You know, got people you know, seeing you 379 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: don't want to get them in the picture. You're just 380 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: trying to do a cook yourself. You're the first class. 381 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: There shouldn't be a lot of that first class going 382 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: on for class. Hey hey, hey, I gotta do it. 383 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: Was cart I don't see k and we buy first 384 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: coming and we won't. Okay, that's reserved. I don't see 385 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: that more. Rodney Harrison and other people like that. It 386 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: ain't coming to me but that I just do that 387 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: for my people. I got people that enjoy that stuff. 388 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, you see all the comments. I mean, people 389 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: enjoy it. I just it's just I learned some kind 390 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: of feeding the beasts. I learned so many things based 391 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: off of your Facebook and the stuff that I didn't 392 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: even know even existing, just the stuff that you've retweeted 393 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: and tweet comment go down, there's the one right there. 394 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: Oh what is that going into combat? Like, what are 395 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: you about to play? It's like he's got it's like 396 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: getting sent over with the truth. Why are we doing this? 397 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Why are you putting it on the camera? Is that 398 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: for the ladies early in the morning. I hate to 399 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: listen late night games. I'm gonna people understand late night 400 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: and you said it best though late night games. He 401 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: got ninety four comments, So so that people got ninety 402 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: four comments a late night games early in the morning. 403 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: Flight you have to get back. We're trying to get 404 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: back for it, espeably after when the season is over. 405 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: It's just a thankless trip. But people understand it. You 406 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: get the guys going to the road games. You could 407 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: have fun. You cover boys leaving, leaving, leaving a little 408 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: a little better. You know, the looks tired. What are 409 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: you wearing? Maga serve makes sense? It's gold. Oh it's 410 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: got like a red lightning ball. Yeah, that's that's one 411 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: of our things too. But anyway, um, it's it's it's 412 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: thankless to a certain extent. I mean, yeah, we get 413 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: we get paid, right football, go to games. But but 414 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, up all night. I'm up all night, right, 415 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: three or four stories, sleep two hours. You gotta get 416 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: on this flag, come back, trying to get back to 417 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: the locker room. It's just I've done this with twenty 418 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: seven years. My favorite is when people are asking me 419 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: after the game, like, oh, did you get so and so? 420 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: Did you get so and so? No. I walked with 421 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones halfway around the stadium and then talked with 422 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: him with three other reporters outside of his car, like 423 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: it's not like anywhere close to just you know, like 424 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: like just covering the seams. Just different than right, So 425 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: are you are you a window guy? Definitely? Window your 426 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: window guy I'm mainly an aisle guy, but sometimes early 427 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: one of like get the windows right, go to sleep, okay, 428 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: sleeping the exit sign as a pillow because some people. 429 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: I hate people. Are you willing to comply? Yes, yes, 430 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: wake me up. I'll comply. It's the people that need 431 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom to wake you up, to 432 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: walk across you. Yeah, you know, and you want them 433 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: to wake you up because you don't want them to 434 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: just like hop over you. I'm they ain't no room 435 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: to hop over anymore. I mean you got yeah, they 436 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: gotta wake him. So I'm trying to not on easy 437 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: when I'm trying to sleep up on the week, I'm 438 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: trying to get a window so I don't bother locker 439 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: room clean. No, I didn't make it back from time. 440 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Why would they do the locker room to eleven? I 441 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't. I don't think you've ever was 442 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: in there. One person was in there. Oh all right, 443 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: good for them. But yeah, so anyway, I don't know 444 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: how we got down my Twitter time my Facebook time started. 445 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: But but but but bottom not but but let's keep 446 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: it real. I mean twenty seven years that's and I 447 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: like how we say and it's cool to say, well, 448 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: what happened in ninety six not on this team, right, 449 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys. You you're added to the Ledger though 450 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: you you've added to the twenty six years, so no, 451 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: that's not on this team. But this is the team. 452 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: This is this is the job. This is the the 453 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: monkey on the organizations back. It might not be on 454 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: you're back, but it's on organization. It is twenty seven years. So, yes, 455 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: Dak had another due would happen in two thousand and seven, 456 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: but you've added to the Ledger now, so it's still 457 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: all of talk about that for a second, it's all 458 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: of yours because it's all of that. Can we talk 459 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: about the monkey on the back. Let's talk about the monkey. 460 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: I didn't find it interesting how I don't know if 461 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: you ended up right enough it's or not. In that 462 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: walk off with Dak, when you asked him about the 463 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: monkey on his back, he was and he was very like, 464 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: there's not Yeah, he wasn't pissed, but it was very like, well, 465 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: first of all, when you asked it, the first thing 466 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: I thought, especially because they were going to San Francisco, 467 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: is there's that like really famous video after the Niners 468 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: when that's your boat, Steve Young and towns like an 469 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: offensive or something like if you finally pull you know. Yeah, right, 470 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: So I thought that's the most cringest video is but 471 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: you've seen it in a million about. My point is 472 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: people they don't want to talk about it, but we 473 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: know it's there. I'm just saying how fast. He responded like, no, 474 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: that's not that's something that you're putting on us. We're 475 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: not putting that on ourselves or whatever. But yeah, that 476 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: was interesting. I mean, yeah, you can say that we're 477 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: not putting them selve, but it's the organizational thing, and 478 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the same reason why you get all 479 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: the titchen because what they've done back then, you're not 480 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: getting the titchen because of what you're doing now, you're 481 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: getting you're getting a titch in, you're getting you you're 482 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: making the money. You're making all all this commercial because 483 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback of the Dallas Football Cowboys is because 484 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: of all the stuff that's been done in the path. 485 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Would there be more pressure on Dak Prescott right now 486 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: or less? If we'll say the Tony Romo era, they 487 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: would have reached a Super Bowl reached an FFC championship game. 488 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: I just think that he's still that deck would still 489 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: heavy regardless of that, because it is year seven and 490 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: the expectations with the Cowboys are that you should be 491 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: able to make a run every No, it would, it 492 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: would still be high. But the heel is just so 493 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so much juck on top of it. Now. 494 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's twenty eight years. I mean again, your kids, 495 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: my kids, My kids have grown up never knowing the 496 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys to be winners. Okay, yeah, I think most players 497 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: probably haven't. I mean, so all this stuff matter will 498 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: be Greek mythology. Yeah you know, wow, Wow, I'm serious. 499 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: I mean they teach it in school now, I mean, 500 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: was it the Cowboys game? I mean, I mean these people, 501 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: these people today don't know nothing about the Cowboys being winners. 502 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, my daughter to see the Cowboys gonna win. 503 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: They never I mean they don't, They have no record less, 504 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: they have no confidence in this organization doing anything but young. 505 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: What they've done. I will say, Michael Jackson popping out 506 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: of that stag out at the top of that stage 507 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: does seem like a long time ago, pass the end, 508 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: because it was it was thirty years ago, you know, 509 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: and and so I was twin to just living your 510 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: best life and so so it's so when you're going 511 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: to this game, But how do you feel, I don't know, 512 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, I don't. How do you believe? How 513 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: do you have belief? I don't know. Man, Like I 514 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: really didn't think, Like I didn't pick them to win 515 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: the game. But up until the Tony Pollard injury, I 516 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: was like, man, they kind of got him right where 517 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: they wanted. They had a good chance to win it. 518 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, they didn't. Yeah, 519 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, and that's where we are. But I'm talking, 520 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: what do you think? I said they got a chance 521 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: to win, but I don't know. I can't. I wouldn't 522 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: put any money on it. I thought they were going 523 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: I thought that either you know, you watched we watched 524 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: the game anything any sport. You can see if you're 525 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: watching enough football, basketball, you can see in about five 526 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: minutes you can tell, Like, you know, you get surprised 527 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: every now and again, but you can pretty much tell 528 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: who's better than the other team. Yeah, and this one 529 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: was really close. But when they were driving there before 530 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: the half, it looked like the Cowboys were better. Oh yeah. 531 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: And then when Pollard got hurt, I remember just thinking 532 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: they're not They're not gonna win this game. And then 533 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: the pick happened right afterwards, and it was like, yeah, 534 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: they definitely everything has to go. And I would tell 535 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: any like the first series, if you if you put 536 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: their first defensive series in this game up against their 537 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: first defensive series at a teen t sam last year, 538 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: it was like two different teams. Yeah, and let's let's yeah, 539 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: let's address that, because there's just notion that the defense 540 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: played well enough to win. And when you take us 541 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: a step back and say, yes they did. They only 542 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: gave up nineteen points. But as coach used to say, 543 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: you play the game you as to play that day. Okay, Yeah, 544 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: and yes they gave up one teschdown. They shouldn't have 545 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: gave up that one touchdown. You know, they should not 546 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: have gave it so to act like the defense quote 547 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: unquote overall played winning football. Kest the pick that was 548 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: you know, when that throws the ball pops up, they 549 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: get it. Cast the pick. You've been a turnable team 550 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: all your cast the pick. Uh, when you have a 551 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: chance to blow somebody up and and and not on 552 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: the same drive the tight end. Make the plays. I'm 553 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: just saying, but you and I'm not going out. I'm 554 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: just saying that there so, yes, there are plays that 555 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: defense could have made that could have changed the game. 556 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: One you're making. You're making it though. When I hear 557 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: you say it, though, I have an argument with that, 558 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: and that's that for all of that to happen, you're 559 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: asking the defense and almost play perfect where I thought 560 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: they played really good to great in that game, where 561 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: all I thought the quarterback needed to do was just 562 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: be solid to good. No, I hear you. We are 563 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: readily understanding accepting that the offense did not play well. 564 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: The quarterback turned the ball over the ultimately costs them 565 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: the game. The idea that the defense played well enough 566 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: to win, they played winning football, that's not true either. 567 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: They could have. I'm just saying that if to be 568 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: a champion, make the plays, and that's some offense and defense. 569 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There were chances this defense had a chance 570 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: to make plays like Fred Warner make the play. Champions 571 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: make play that goes on both sides of the ball. 572 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: When it's sixteen to twelve and they've got the ball 573 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: at the eleven minute mark. It's similar to that Eagle 574 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: game where it's like, all right, you're in this game 575 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: still and the defense has kept you in it. And 576 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: then then for them to go on eleven you know, 577 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: eight minute drive. No defense has to get off the field. 578 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: But I I'm I'm actually in between y'all. No question 579 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback can't turn the ball over, There's no question 580 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: they didn't have no play the offense should have. They 581 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: need more from the offense. But the notion of the 582 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: defense played championship football is wrong. Yeah, I'm gonna agree 583 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: with that, but I'll take my chances. And then playing 584 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: like that again, Oh you will hope that, but but again, 585 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, you play the game you're asked to play 586 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: that day. That day, the defense was asked to not 587 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: give up nothing. Let's get another break in here. When 588 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: we come back, I will talk about that breaking news 589 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: in National Football League. 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This 626 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: is not a commitment to lend to media match neuiscribe 627 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: saw on the media match along with Clarence Hill, Nick Eatman, 628 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: and John Macholda. The Carolina Panthers have hired Frank Wright 629 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: to be their next head football coach. Kellen Moore had 630 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: interviewed for the job, so he will not become the 631 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: head coach of the Panthers. I don't think he'll become 632 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: a head coach of any team this offseason go around here. 633 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: So with the changes, do we anticipate Kellen Moore being back? 634 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: We will talk to the ad coach Mike McCarthy at 635 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: the top of the hour, Clarence Kelly Moore has one 636 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: year left on his deal, you know, and and there's 637 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: a dot process that to take the next step, you 638 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: need to make things changed to him. For Dak Prescott 639 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: making more uncomfortably do something that that's gonna get him. 640 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, numbers wise, the offense was 641 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: could the playoffs it has not, and those curl route 642 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: stick routes, whatever you do. I mean, this this whole 643 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett offense stuff, I think it's it's kind of stale, 644 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't. You might need to 645 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: move on to take the next step. That's a that's 646 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: a tough one because I mean, there there are times 647 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: when you know, there's been some plays, not every you know, 648 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: not every series, or maybe one or two a game. 649 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: But I thought even in the like in the first 650 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: playoff game, I thought there were a lot of plays 651 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: where I thought, you know, it was really good. I 652 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: mean what they what people ask if Kellen Moore after 653 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: the forty Diners lost last year, was you gotta get 654 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: CD involved. You got to figure out how to get 655 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: Pollard involved and scheme them open. And I thought that 656 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: he did a nice job of that this year. Um, 657 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm I'm still to the point where if 658 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: you're going you have to stick with Dad from a 659 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: number standpoint salary. And I do think it maybe it's 660 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: time for a different voice. And just because Jerry, maybe 661 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: maybe he wanted to make a move, But I mean, 662 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna make a move if the guy's interviewing 663 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: for a job, you know. So. But my thing is, 664 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: I was just talking about else about it. If you 665 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: move on from kelln who you're moving to, right? Yeah, 666 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean I don't have choices in the building. Yeah, 667 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: but that's office coordinate choice. Yeah, yeah you do. Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer. Yeah, 668 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I thought you're talking about the head coach taking it over. Um, 669 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: you've got him, I mean, you've got you've got choices. 670 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: How do you feel about Cliff Kingsbury? Um, can somebody 671 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: get a hold of them in time? He's in Thailand? Yeah, 672 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: coming back but you know about the Dell's Cowboys and tailing. Yeah, 673 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying I think I think that no, 674 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I would tell him more. I would not bring what 675 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get a head coaching job. I think 676 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore will end up being back. But I also 677 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: agree that he's not getting head coaching well okay, but 678 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I'm not down on him the way. 679 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of people that have 680 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: like they're dug in on. It's either it's either Dak's 681 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: fault or it's Kelen's fault, and you take one side 682 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: or the other. And I don't think that either of 683 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: them are terrible. You know, I think that one, you're 684 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: not moving on from Dak because I think it would 685 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: be foolish even if he wasn't under the contract. I'm 686 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: not moving on from Dak Prescott because there's a far 687 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: greater chance you get back to Quincy Carter, Vince Viny 688 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Testaverty years then you're going to be to find the 689 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: next Dak Prescott or the next Tony Romo or whoever's 690 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: in that. So you have to find something that's gonna 691 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: make him better than he was. This year, and maybe 692 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: that means you have to go with a different play 693 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: color to just change things up, just to change things up. 694 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I see, I think that's part of it. 695 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: It's not like Kellen Moore done a bad job. I 696 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: think you don't. You go on Twitter, but people think 697 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: he's like the worst guy that's ever called a play, 698 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: and you're just like, you really think it's just him, 699 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: you really, you know, I mean, it's just not and 700 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: it's not just Dak but a different voice. Maybe it's 701 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: about different boys because too much is on the line now. 702 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, michaelmcarth have Kellen Moore back or 703 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy called the plays. McCarthy called the plays. Um, 704 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: I know Built Parcels is out here. He did that 705 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: thirty third team and he went down the Cowboys and 706 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: he thinks that uh he says right here, on says 707 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: super Bowl winning coach said he likes what he sees 708 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: from the team on defense, but on offense, particularly Kelly 709 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: Moore's play calling is hurting the team. And he also 710 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: said about yeah, and he also said about uh, he 711 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: said about Dak Prescott quote, Um, they don't have a 712 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: top top quality quarterback in Dak Prescott. But I do 713 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: think he's good enough to win with him. Yeah, I 714 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: mean I think he's gonna win with one with Ray 715 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: Lucas and Quincy Carter to the point, what drives me 716 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: crazy that way? I'm sorry, I love it, don't he's 717 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: a bus driving But but but I understand, Okay, what 718 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because this you don't even have to look 719 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: at Quincy Carter, look at Black Purdy. I mean, you 720 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: know you don't have to look do that. What I'm 721 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: saying is that the idea that Deak shows he can't 722 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: take you to the super Bowl, that's not true, because 723 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: Black Purty or Jalen Hurts is gonna take somebody to 724 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: the super Bowl this year a million a year. Huh. 725 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about 726 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: a player, because Talbot, because that's how you get That's 727 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: how you acquire Christian McCaffrey on your team. Where you 728 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: go get a Jay Brown because you can go do 729 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: that stuff in the minute, dad, don't I don't think 730 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys lack of weapons this year, letting a 731 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Mark Cooper go, choosing to sign Gallup, choosing whatever they 732 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: made this they could have kept Amark Cooper. I'm sorry. 733 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with Dax money. Okay, they 734 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: could have kept Marko, they could have added more weapons, 735 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: they could have spent more money. Had nothing to do 736 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: with Deax. Heavy brings us up, though. I just have 737 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: a thought of just like, why would we really be 738 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: sitting here just so shocked if Amark Cooper is on 739 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: the and they still lost that nine years. No, I'm 740 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: just I'm getting It's not DeAndre Hopkins, is what I'm getting. 741 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: I agree, I'm just using him an example. What I'm 742 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: saying is this take because when I talk about those guys, though, 743 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: I talk about the weapons around them. Okay, weekend a 744 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: week out, the Cowboys stepped on the field with the 745 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: worst receiving corps on the field. Okay, and Brock part, yes, 746 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: he's on the contract. I'm just talking about Debo. I'm 747 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: talking about his weapons that they have, right, Okay, So 748 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: the notion and you can talk about I'm talking about 749 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: the notion that you can't win with Dak Prescott the player. 750 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: If you give him weapons, they can take the next step. 751 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not a player that can uplift, which 752 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones told us last year, Well, he's a franchise 753 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: cord with paying forty million dollars, he can uplift lesser 754 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: areas on the team. That's wrong. That's making forty million 755 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: a year. So therefore you've got to find the chief weapon. No, 756 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: I'm we're saying the same thing. It's just harder to 757 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: go get those weapons because you've got to You've got 758 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: a really, really, really expensive bus driver. So now you've 759 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: got to get You've got to find Tony Pollard in 760 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: the fourth round, and he's got to produce early. You've 761 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: got to get cheap weapons to do that on the 762 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: first contract. Okay, I guess all of that's true. I'm 763 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: just saying that Dek Prescott the player is not a 764 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: non starter when it comes to taking the team to 765 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Now, if that's all I'm saying, if 766 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: you can win, you can get Yeah, because they could 767 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: have done this because because as we said, if you 768 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: don't how to picks, they win this week. You know, 769 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: so even with the money. But but overall, and I 770 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, and we've had this conversation, you 771 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: know they didn't win with Mark Cooper. No, get after 772 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: they win with Mark next year. The difference between last 773 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: year and this year. The entire team was better than 774 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: last year. The defense was better last year, the offense wasn't. 775 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying I do not like going into 776 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: the season taking a step back talent wise on offense. 777 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: Less team was better than this year. No, I said 778 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: this year's team was better. I mean John had had 779 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: this conversation. No no, no, no, no, no no, no, 780 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: he's saying I didn't meet it last We've been having it. 781 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: This year's team is better. This year's team overall better overall, defensively, 782 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: everywhere else, it was better team. Yeah. So, yes, they 783 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: had the same record, They did the same thing they 784 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: did with Amari Cooper play. But they were a lesser 785 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: team on office tougher division. Yes, and they and I 786 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: mean look at they were a lesser team than they 787 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: were the final four teams that are still standing right now. 788 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean they played their two and two against those teams, 789 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: you know they were. They played a much tougher schedule 790 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: this year, and they held their own. They had better 791 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: quality wins. Yeah. Better, But at the end of the day, 792 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: the goal is to not you know, be even It's 793 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: not to be the same, but to take the next step. 794 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: And I don't know how you can take the next 795 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: step with lesser players. John, I mean I pretty much 796 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: made my case on this, Like I thought they made 797 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: a mistake by let going of letting go of Amari Cooper. 798 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: But to me, the way I look at a Mark 799 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: Cooper is in a way and I don't think he's 800 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: as good as Scottie Pippen, but Scottie Pippen has gotten 801 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: better in the last decade. By everybody that likes to 802 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: hate on the like that's pro Lebron and likes to 803 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: hate on Jordan all of a sudden, just like, oh 804 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: they didn't he didn't do anything before Scottie, and all 805 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it just like you put him this level. 806 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: Like I watched all of those like yeah, he was 807 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: a really good player, but it wasn't like it was 808 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: like he was the reason that they want Michael Jordan 809 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: is the reason. And then like now that the every 810 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: week that goes by that they didn't have a Mary Cooper, 811 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: it just like he keeps getting better and better, Like 812 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: we haven't seen games that really mattered for the Cowboys 813 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: or last three or four years that Mark Cooper is 814 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: on the field, and he didn't really do much in 815 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: those games. So that's the only reason why I'm saying that. 816 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from. They would have been 817 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: better with a Mary Cooper. But there's also that if 818 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: he's out on that field on Sunday, I also don't 819 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: sit there and go, oh, they would have won that game. 820 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: For where I'm telling you, if if Tony Pollard doesn't 821 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: get hurt, I feel very good. Did they win that game? 822 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: Let's switch gears here because we got five minutes left 823 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: the show. McCarthy comes up the top three o'clock. What 824 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: do you what do you want to know from head 825 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: coach Mike McCarthy who called that very last play. No, 826 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I don't think he did him. I don't. 827 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: When watching the TV copy over again, I don't. That's 828 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: that's a fossil play. Now what I what? I what? 829 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: I what? This is where I heard they did not 830 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: expect the Ford Now to play that defense. That play 831 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: the partners called the time out. That play was design 832 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: for them to play coverage. Yeah. Yeah, and you know 833 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: a coach told me the Fourdins played more aggressive on 834 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: that final play than did on the third down play. 835 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: They did not expect them to blow up Zeke and 836 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: blow up like in Blitz. Yeah, because they thought they 837 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: were gonna play coverage like most teams, you know you're 838 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna play coverage. So that's why that play looked like 839 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: it did because the four and nine way the four 840 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: and Niners played, they did not expect the four Ninas 841 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: to play that defense and be that aggressive on that place. 842 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: So my biggest question will be how do you how 843 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: do you get Dac better? How does that get better? 844 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: How do you how do you get Dack to take 845 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: another step? Because it's this is a quarterback league and 846 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: for them to go far, he's gonna have to play better. 847 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: How do you how this offseason? How do you make things? 848 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: But how do you make Dak Prescott better? I don't 849 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: know that and and I like that question that needs 850 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: to be better? Be better? Yeah, okay, or be what 851 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: he was right? But I'm just a questions very open 852 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: because it's not just about Dak. It could be also 853 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: he could say we need to get help. I guess 854 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is his track ringer first years, six years? 855 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: The deck is not a turnover quarterback, right, can that 856 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: be better and be that quarterback and not necessarily necessar 857 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: elevate to take the next step. Just be who you 858 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: were last year. Yeah, you know, Okay, we get da 859 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: to not try to do too much, not try to 860 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: be aggressive. Take the checkdowns. I understand that. You know 861 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: there were several six or seven checkdowns in that game 862 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: that he did not take. You don't necessarily have to. 863 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: Jack doesn't necess have to be morph into some great 864 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: quarterback he this year. Be better. It means doing things 865 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: he did before this. That's fine. And in histories, you know, 866 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: don't say, Dak, you're forty million dollars. I need you 867 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: to make make the difference for this team. Dak, be 868 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: who you are, to be the smart We paid you money. 869 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: We didn't pay you forty million dollars because you're Aaron Rodgers, 870 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: because you're packing. We paid your money because you're a leader. 871 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: You're a good decision maker, You're a smart guy. Be 872 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: that guy. Nick Uh. You know, I don't know how 873 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: I'd almost rather look back than look forward, because I 874 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to give you a whole 875 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: lot looking forward. But but if you were to do that, 876 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: I would I would say what is your where's your 877 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: running back situation look like? Like like, obviously you're gonna 878 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: say that you love Zeke and what everything he does 879 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: for you as a running back in a center but 880 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: also back hit fullback. You know, but but what does 881 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: what does that? Does a running back situation look like? 882 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, can you you have to Pollard 883 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: coming back? But but then he's got to get resigned. 884 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: It's just so much up in the air. Again, I 885 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna give answers. I'm just like that, 886 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: that's that's a question there. And can you figure out 887 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: a way to get Bjean Robinson to the fall twenty 888 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: six spots? That's Kenny Willie. Is Tyler Smith your left tackle? Yeah? 889 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: The question is is Tyre Smith your right tackle? What 890 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: does Terrence Deal gonna be ready? Yeah? That's true. Are 891 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: you looking at me like I'm doing the chords or something? No, 892 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: because you're I mean, I think I can't remember he 893 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: has a torn achilles. I don't know that he'll be 894 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: ready for the start of the season. You go, you 895 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: need a right tackle. I think he would be ready 896 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: for the start of the season. I mean, again, every 897 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: player is different. I get it, But if you're if 898 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: you're wide receiver has surgery in February, is able to 899 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: play in week four of the season. I would think 900 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: Terrence Steele, who got hurt in the Colts game, or 901 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: it would December early December. Yeah, you're right, it'd be 902 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: a close. You know, you just need you you first 903 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: of all, I don't Peter's not coming back where you're 904 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: not really, I don't know if you're comfortable at your 905 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 1: backup tackles right now? Uh? You need you need some insurance. 906 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: How about the Wells? Who's calling plays? Here we go? 907 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: We can find a top dew who's calling the plays? 908 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: Who's your Cordy lots to get into head. 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