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Speaker 1: PMS is a hormone imbalance. If I tell you, Roddy

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Speaker 2: Right. Today's guest is the creator of the cycle sinking method.

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Speaker 2: Alisa Vissi is a pioneer in female biohacking, a functional nutritionist,

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Speaker 2: and the founder of flow Living, a platform that helps

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Speaker 1: You know, we go to the doctor saying I don't

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Speaker 1: feel right with my cycle. Usually we're prescribe birth control

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Speaker 1: pills which don't fix what is wrong, and we are

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Speaker 1: aging our ovaries so much faster than we realize because

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Speaker 1: we are not taking care of our cycle phases. We're

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Speaker 1: putting in too many toxins. We're creating a lot of inflammation,

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Speaker 1: and it's absolutely messing with ovarian function. Starting to align

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Speaker 1: your self care with your cycle phases really does work.

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Speaker 1: Just here living the experiment of what happens when you

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Speaker 1: support the female hormonal ecosystem for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Rather than going against it, you get a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of return on your investment, is what I can say.

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Speaker 1: From the front line.

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Speaker 2: I'm RADI Wukiah and on my podcast A Really Good Cry,

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Speaker 2: we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space

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Speaker 2: for raw, unfiltered conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow you

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Speaker 2: to tune in to learn, connect and find comfort together.

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Speaker 3: Alisa, it is so great to have you here.

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Speaker 2: On A Really Good Cry. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being here. I'm so happy to be here. Honestly, it's

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Speaker 2: been years in the making. It really has been. I

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Speaker 2: was just telling Alisa that we're reminiscing about the time

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Speaker 2: in the Flow what about a good few years ago,

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Speaker 2: maybe twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two, and I

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Speaker 2: I love you so much.

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Speaker 3: This book has changed my life, and it really had.

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Speaker 2: So I know at the time you weren't able to

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Speaker 2: But I'm so glad that we get to have this

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's always needed, but I you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and honestly, that's really what this podcast is about.

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Speaker 2: I want to stop by talking about In the Flood,

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Speaker 2: which is a book that made the term cycle sinking

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Speaker 2: go absolutely viral because you came up with it. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I created the method because I was researching,

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Speaker 1: And I uncovered a second biological clock in the female

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Speaker 1: social media. You can strength train in every phase of

435
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Speaker 1: the cycle, right I do? You should? You can. You

436
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Speaker 1: may be recovering from a lot of hormonal imbalance where

437
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Speaker 1: you feel a lot of fatigue in the second half

438
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Speaker 1: of the cycle, where you don't feel like you have

439
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Speaker 1: the energy to strength train until you get yourself back

440
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Speaker 1: to a state of homeostasis from a hormonal perspective, and

441
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Speaker 1: that's okay, So don't push yourself. But when you are

442
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Speaker 1: in the flow with your cycle, you can strength train

443
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Speaker 1: every day of the cycle. And there's so much advantageous,

444
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Speaker 1: you know, benefits to doing that from a blood sugar

445
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Speaker 1: perspective and a mitochondrial ovarian perspective. So I would definitely

446
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Speaker 1: encourage people to do that too.

447
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Speaker 2: I remember when I'm I was really struggling with the

448
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Speaker 2: certain parts of my certain parts of my cycle where

449
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Speaker 2: I was working up really intensely, like so intensely, actually

450
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Speaker 2: not more intensely than I normally would, But when I

451
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Speaker 2: was doing it during the phase before my menstruation, I

452
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Speaker 2: noticed there was a significant difference in how much I

453
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Speaker 2: was able to bounce back. So I was really going hard,

454
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Speaker 2: and no matter what I ate after my workout, no

455
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Speaker 2: matter how much I tried to replenish, my body was

456
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Speaker 2: just feeling flat out. And then it would affect the

457
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Speaker 2: rest of the phases and I almost like it felt

458
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Speaker 2: like I'd got into a deficit that I couldn't get

459
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Speaker 2: back from. And so I would do my lower back

460
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Speaker 2: would end up hurting more. I do the same ways

461
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Speaker 2: that I would normally do, you know a couple of

462
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Speaker 2: weeks before, but my lower back would go out, my

463
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Speaker 2: body would feel weaker. I'd come back, I'd have my

464
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Speaker 2: potein shake, I'd do all this stuff, and I'd be like, oh,

465
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Speaker 2: I feel so like my head feels heavy. Don't feel

466
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Speaker 2: like I'm just not replenishing. And when I started realizing

467
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Speaker 2: that I had to it wasn't that I stopped working

468
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Speaker 2: out during that phase, but I had to go at

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Speaker 2: a lower intensity during that time. And what a difference

470
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Speaker 2: it made to actually then catching up with energy for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the phases when the phase that I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, just off to my menstruation is what I

473
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Speaker 2: usually would feel like the best, and I'd have so

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Speaker 2: much energy and it will be incredible. But it was

475
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Speaker 2: like I was catching up because I put myself so

476
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Speaker 2: flat out during the phase where I was supposed to

477
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Speaker 2: be having a little bit more rest, and instead of

478
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Speaker 2: doing that, I was pushing through. So I was kind

479
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Speaker 2: of borrowing energy from the other phases.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great example of I think what

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Speaker 1: we're doing in general as women, which is where, you know,

482
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Speaker 1: because we are more comfortable with the practices of self

483
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Speaker 1: care from the first half of the cycle, we try

484
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Speaker 1: to maintain those in the second half, which are a

485
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Speaker 1: mismatch for what our cycle phases need. In the ludial,

486
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Speaker 1: in the menstrual phase, and we're putting a drain on

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Speaker 1: our system. So we kind of are creating a big

488
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Speaker 1: leaky bucket from a micronutrient perspective and energy perspective, and

489
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Speaker 1: that puts us in deficit, not just with our blood sugar,

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Speaker 1: our cortisol, our progesterone, our mood. And it's a vicious cycle.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to get into like a delicious

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Speaker 1: cycle where you are nourishing yourself properly and then you're

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Speaker 1: exercising in a way that is sustainable for you. I

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Speaker 1: will say oftentimes in the luteal phase, just specifically to

495
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Speaker 1: that your little practice, just to maybe tweak your practice.

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Speaker 1: It oftentimes women work out in a fasted state I do,

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Speaker 1: which is a big no noe. So if you work

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Speaker 1: out in a fasted state, especially in the luteal phase,

499
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Speaker 1: when your metabolism is faster and resting cortisol is higher,

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Speaker 1: now you are putting your body in a very vulnerable

501
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Speaker 1: position because you're putting yourself into hypoglycemic reaction.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I used to face, and then that can.

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Speaker 1: Take hours, if not days to recover from, depending on

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Speaker 1: how sensitive you are. So you were just having a

505
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Speaker 1: very bad hypoglycemic reaction in the luteal phase because you're

506
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Speaker 1: mismanaging your blood sugar, which is the whole purpose of

507
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Speaker 1: the dietary part of the intervention of cycle sinking is

508
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Speaker 1: to protect against blood sugar mismanagement, which we when you

509
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Speaker 1: do that, it's very hard to maintain hormonal balance.

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Speaker 2: What do you think these days are the biggest red

511
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Speaker 2: flags you're seeing women day? Like the top three things

512
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Speaker 2: that are literally ruining a woman's hormontal health.

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Speaker 1: I mean, fast at anything, fasted workouts, fast like extended

514
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Speaker 1: fasting definitely not a good thing from a hormonal perspective.

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Speaker 1: Caffeine on an empty stomach really problematic from a cortisol

516
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Speaker 1: perspective and a blood sugar perspective. And then I would

517
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Speaker 1: say too much blue light exposure at night that really

518
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Speaker 1: disrupts melatonin production. And melatonin is so connected to our

519
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Speaker 1: ovulation potential, and when we don't make enough of that,

520
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: we age the ovary really quickly, so we can really

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Speaker 1: put an end to ovulation much sooner than we should.

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Speaker 1: So those three things alone, so I mean, I would say,

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Speaker 1: eat your breakfast within an hour of waking. Wait until

524
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Speaker 1: in fact, study just came out about that if you

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Speaker 1: believe the idea that having that cup of coffee or

526
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Speaker 1: green tea or something on an empty stomach first thing

527
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Speaker 1: in the morning is what's giving you that jolt, it's

528
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Speaker 1: actually not that. It's that within that first thirty minutes,

529
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Speaker 1: your body is offloading melatonin and so what you're you're

530
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Speaker 1: like coming out of the sleep mode, right, So you're

531
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Speaker 1: naturally and your cortisol's onboarding, so you're naturally kind of

532
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Speaker 1: waking up. It has nothing to do with the caffeine.

533
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Speaker 1: The caffeine. Putting it in too early can actually prevent

534
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Speaker 1: that process from happening properly, keeping you more groggy and

535
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: then messing with your blood sugar and cortisol. Right, So

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00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: it's best if you're going to do it, to wait

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Speaker 1: one hour. So I always say eat your breakfast within

538
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Speaker 1: that first hour to boost your energy from a blood

539
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Speaker 1: sugar perspective, and then have your caffeine after the meal,

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Speaker 1: which is how every other culture has caffeine. Yeah, after

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Speaker 1: a meal, So we should just adopt that logic. It's

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Speaker 1: good for us. And then from the perspective of the

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Speaker 1: evening routine, you know, make sure you put your phones

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Speaker 1: your screens on, like red light, you know, whatever, the

545
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Speaker 1: anti blue light, there's always like an app you can

546
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Speaker 1: download or wear blue light blocking glasses after a certain hour,

547
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Speaker 1: you know, at least by eight o'clock.

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Speaker 3: So then you know with the intimate and fasting because

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Speaker 3: obviously they wreck.

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Speaker 2: There's been so many people that have shared that having

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Speaker 2: a minimum of like a fourteen fifteen hour to allow

552
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Speaker 2: your body to detox and to get the benefits of

553
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: intimate and fasting, that having that block of fourteen or

554
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Speaker 2: fifteen hours is what's really important.

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Speaker 3: So would you.

556
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Speaker 2: Say that that's not necessarily accurate for a woman or

557
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Speaker 2: is it very dependent on what type of woman you are.

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Speaker 1: So you can do that. Ex So, the Golden fast

559
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Speaker 1: is a twelve to thirteen hour fast between dinner and breakfast,

560
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Speaker 1: So that means like seven pm, you're having your last

561
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Speaker 1: bite of food and you would have your next spite

562
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Speaker 1: of food until sometime between seven or eight am. Okay,

563
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Speaker 1: that's great. In the first half of the cycle, you

564
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Speaker 1: might be able to push that another hour, so that

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Speaker 1: could be that fourteen hour window right in the luteal phase.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not keep it to twelve and you will see

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Speaker 1: the impact and the benefits of doing that there's more

568
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Speaker 1: harm in delaying replenishing your glucose levels in the luteal

569
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Speaker 1: phase than there is any benefit from fasting. And then

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Speaker 1: obviously the research that's been done on intermittent fasting has

571
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Speaker 1: been done on men and postmenopausal women, which shows huge benefits.

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Speaker 1: When I am postmenopausal, I will be intermittent fasting. I

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Speaker 1: will be extending my fasting. I think we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: have actually taken up a very serious strength training practice

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Speaker 1: over the past fourteen months, so I am bodybuilding five

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Speaker 1: days a week, and I actually don't think that there's

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Speaker 1: a place for the fasting in my current routine because

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Speaker 1: I have to prefuel my muscles with adequate levels of

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Speaker 1: glucose before I train, and I'm training very heavy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my hip thrust is two hundred pounds. Yeah, squat is

581
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Speaker 1: a grid pound squad, you know, like my bench press

582
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: is seventy pounds. I'm lifting really heavy and so you

583
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: need to fuel for that. So again, you know, we

584
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be so afraid of nourishment. Now, fasting has a place,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're recovering from let's say some sort of

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Speaker 1: intense infection like limes disease or there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: reasons where fasting can be a very big help to

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Speaker 1: the body because the constant introduction of food can be

589
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Speaker 1: a drain when immune system is overburdened. But for the

590
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Speaker 1: everyday woman who is just dealing with PMS, if we

591
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Speaker 1: really are talking about getting a handled on that, we

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Speaker 1: have to approach and support our master regulating hormones. In

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Speaker 1: order for you to change your sex hormone output estrogen progesterone,

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Speaker 1: you have to work on the master regulating hormone support

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Speaker 1: of glucose, insulin, and cortisol. Right. So that's why we

596
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: change diet and exercise, because then we change those inputs,

597
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: we get better sex hormone outputs. That's the key.

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Speaker 2: Would the intimated fasting also be applied to if someone

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Speaker 2: was trying to lose weight with women who are trying

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Speaker 2: to lose weight or achieve weight loss in their workout program,

601
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Speaker 2: would what you're saying apply to them also?

602
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Speaker 1: It would apply because the studies around intermittent fasting that

603
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Speaker 1: I do think have some merit, or for women with

604
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Speaker 1: PCOS which I used to have and I used to

605
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Speaker 1: be two hundred and ten pounds covered in face, chest

606
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Speaker 1: and back and sistic acne, and I did not menstraight

607
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: from the age of twelve to twenty two, so you know,

608
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Speaker 1: I understand weight issues. That being said, I've never used

609
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Speaker 1: intermittent fasting as a tool for my weight management, and

610
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Speaker 1: I've kept off a significant amount of weight for a

611
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Speaker 1: long time. But there is some emerging research that shows

612
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Speaker 1: that for women with pcos, there's some value in doing

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Speaker 1: some extended fasting to help at least get them started

614
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Speaker 1: where they could get to a place where they have

615
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: better metabolic flexibility. Because women with pcos have a lot

616
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Speaker 1: of insulin resistance on the level of the cell, overburdening

617
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: the body with glucose is the problem. So intermittent fasting

618
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: isn't the thing there. It's just a mechanism that reduces

619
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Speaker 1: overall daily glucose load and that benefits the cell from

620
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Speaker 1: a woman who has this insulin resistance. For women who

621
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Speaker 1: are trying to lose weight, in fact, delaying nutrition and

622
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: going long periods of time without eating, let's say we

623
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Speaker 1: do that the most between lunch and dinner. It slows

624
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Speaker 1: down your metabolism. So, for example, in the past fourteen months,

625
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Speaker 1: and I didn't think I had any weight to lose,

626
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Speaker 1: I've lost twenty five pounds strength training and eating more,

627
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Speaker 1: more free and more. You know, I was already nourishing

628
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: myself a lot, but I started, you know, at midlife.

629
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Speaker 1: I thought, let me just see what other new experiments

630
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Speaker 1: I can do. And that's really been the thing. So

631
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I think again, we have this whole like narrative that

632
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: is not based on actual data that we feel really

633
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: comfortable with, Like, yes, we feel, we feel now. Listen,

634
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: a calorie deficit if you're going to lose weight is important.

635
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: It's an important part of weight loss. But that does

636
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Speaker 1: not eat. That does not have to involve going many,

637
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Speaker 1: many hours of the day without eating. You can be

638
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: in a calorie deficit and eat every three hours because

639
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: the goal is even in a calorie deficit, you still

640
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: have to stabilize your blood sugar Otherwise you're going to

641
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: be hypoglycemic. You're going to be craving things, You're going

642
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: to be throwing off your lept in response. It's going

643
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to just it's a vicious cycle.

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00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: And then you know when people get their hormones tested,

646
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: are the you know the targets or you know the

647
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: ranges that they give when you're testing your hormones, are

648
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: they based on the right demographic in terms of when

649
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: they are getting tested. If your hormones are showing normal,

650
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: but you're still showing up with symptoms that there's irregular,

651
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: like there's hormone irregulation.

652
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: What.

653
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just love to touch on that because

654
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: sometimes they can be it's so.

655
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Frustrating, right, yeah. Yeah. So the problem fundamentally with blood

656
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: analysis is that it's just this one crystallized moment in

657
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: time whenever you take the blood draw. That moment, that

658
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: minute of your cycle is what the data is going

659
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: to show. Yes, yeah, it's I think in the light

660
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: of all the new options that women have. You know,

661
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: for example, Mirror Health has a wonderful at home your

662
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: analysis device where you can be tracking your estrogen and

663
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: progesterone metabolites every single day. Oh wow, so you can

664
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: every single day of your cycle know how many how

665
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: much estrogen progester on your body has made that day,

666
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: and then you can get that picture for a whole month.

667
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: That is much more valuable information to have. You understand,

668
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: are you in general having the right flow of these

669
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: hormonal ratios in each phase of the cycle as opposed

670
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: to just a blood draw Now, the other thing that

671
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: I think is valuable too about having more consistent testing

672
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: if you're concerned, is that you're absolutely right. You can

673
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: go and get a blood test and you can be

674
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: in normal range for that minute of that day of

675
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: your cycle, and then you have this frustrating conversation with

676
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: your provider where you're like, there's nothing wrong with your labs.

677
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: Everything is normal, and you're like, but I feel bad,

678
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: and then there's this sort of opportunity for gas lighting

679
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: to happen, and this sort of again, this cultural narrative

680
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: of like it's in your head because it's not on

681
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: the labs is perpetuated. And I think it's because the

682
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: tool of this blood test does not match the thirty

683
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: twenty eight to thirty two to day experience of a

684
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: dynamic hormone pattern that is changing in real time day

685
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: over day. How can a blood test be sufficient to

686
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: really get a full picture of what could be going on? Right? So,

687
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I think if you have concerns, do something that's a

688
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: little bit more comprehensive, so that you can see more

689
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: data and you can see that it's not in your

690
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: head because it's not.

691
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: So. Urine analysis is a better way of someone going.

692
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: There's many, there's many, there's that there's you know, you

693
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: can wear even HRV levels in things like rings and watches.

694
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: They're able to sort of be mapped now onto menstrual

695
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: cycle pattern. So there's many, many biometric devices that are

696
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: available to us. It is a really exciting, i would say,

697
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: historic feminist time because of femtech and some of these

698
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: biohacking devices that have been evolved. Even simple things like

699
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: having an access to a continuous glucose monitor, what a

700
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: powerful tool in managing your hormonal reality because if you're

701
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: not you know, and I wrote about this in my

702
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: first book, Woman Code, it's the first step of the

703
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: flow protocol that I used in my practice for years

704
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: before I opened, before I started the first femtech company

705
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: in the US in twenty twelve, which is flow living.

706
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: That you know, if you are not managing your blood sugar,

707
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: you have no shot in helping yourself from a hormonal perspective.

708
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: It's so germane to your endocrine function. It's table stakes.

709
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't out supplement or out biohack. Having

710
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: a poor diet, yeah, you just cannot. And eighty percent

711
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: of what gets you well is dietary.

712
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: So true, are there any like your top three foods

713
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: that are supportive for women's hormones and health?

714
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean protein because we synthesize hormones from amino acids,

715
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: So let's not I know protein's a hot topic right

716
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: now because everybody wants to have your protein, and I'm

717
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: here for that. I do eat a lot of protein myself,

718
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: but especially as I'm aging, more protein helps me make

719
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: more hormone and I'm interested in playing the game of

720
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: how can my bod how can I help my body

721
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: make more endogenous which means internally produced hormones for longer? Yes,

722
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: you know why not? We can play any experiment we want.

723
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: Why not do that?

724
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: So more protein is helping me do that. But even

725
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: when you're younger, if you're having hormone imbalances, you can't

726
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: get pregnant. You know, protein is a really important thing

727
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: to look at. How much protein are you eating? And

728
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: you should actually do that, not just from an opinion perspective,

729
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: but you should calculate via actual macronutrient amount of protein

730
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: that you should be having. We don't have to guess anymore.

731
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Which is I think the thing that I love to

732
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: share with women. This is not about what do we

733
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: think it should be. We can know we can track

734
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: our hormones, we can measure our macros, we can measure

735
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: our blood sugar. We can measure these things and we

736
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: can actually see things change. It's so excited. I mean,

737
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: this has not ever been possible before. It's very exciting.

738
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Every woman should feel so empowered to take her cycle

739
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: management into her own hands and feel like she can

740
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: be successful because that is absolutely possible. So protein is

741
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: the first one.

742
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: How much protein do you recommend pergram body wave?

743
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's a standard calculation, so I stick with this.

744
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: That okay with that one, and then you know, I

745
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: would say after protein, the second thing that I think

746
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: is really important from a food perspective for women would

747
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: be healthy fats. You just also need those because hormones

748
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: are stabilized in a lipid ring, so you need to

749
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: make sure you're having healthy fats. It also helps with

750
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: just hormone production prevention. I mean, you got to have

751
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: the right fats and the BISO, stay away from like

752
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: processed seed oils and eat more good, healthy fats. But

753
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: the third one is definitely one I don't think you've

754
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: heard before, and one that I just think is utterly fascinating.

755
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: So orange foods are really valuable for the ovaries because

756
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: it turns out that the ovaries have fourteen different beta

757
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: carotene receptor sites. Oh wow, So root vegetables, organ meats

758
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: all contain high levels of beta carotene vitamin A that

759
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: the ovaries need to store in there in their tissue

760
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: to function, just like we we know right, Oh yes,

761
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: my thyroid needs to store iodine and selenium, so we

762
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: know to consume those things to give our thyroid the

763
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: things it needs to do to have to make hormones.

764
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: But your ovaries need beta carotene. So that's why, especially

765
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: in the luteal phase, you want to be eating your

766
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: root vegetables because your ovaries love that. So that's another

767
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: food that I think. I eat sweet potatoes every day,

768
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: depending on what carrots in the first half of my cycle,

769
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: sweet potatoes at the second half, for sure.

770
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: What about three foods or how many foods that you

771
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: think are unknown to women that are actually affecting the

772
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: home and health in a negative way, disrupting the homeleone.

773
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: Unknown to it. That's an interesting question. I mean, well,

774
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: I think stevia is one that is is under discussed.

775
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: So historically the stevia plant was used as a light

776
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: form of contraception. There is some in certain traditional cultures

777
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: there's some endocrine effect and impact from that plant that's interesting.

778
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: So it's in a lot of different things. So monk

779
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: fruit is a really good alternative that does not have that.

780
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: And also I noticed too that stevia's sweetness is so

781
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: intense that it can generate more of a salt craving

782
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: that then kicks off another sugar craving. So in Chinese medicine,

783
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: when we look at the yin and young principles of food,

784
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: yin foods are very sweet things, and young foods are

785
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: more salty things, right, heavier, oily, fatty or saltier things.

786
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: So if you're having something that's very very yin, even

787
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: if it's just the taste of like something extremely sweet,

788
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: you're going to naturally crave something more salty to get

789
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: back to a sense of balance. And so you can

790
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: really be like sea sawing all day, like you have

791
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: your super stevia sweetened tea, and then you're like, I

792
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: need salty crackers, and then you just don't feel like

793
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: you're in control. Whereas monk fruit. I don't feel like

794
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: we have that same reaction.

795
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: That's so interesting. I didn't know that about.

796
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if you're trying to conceive, you know,

797
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: I would definitely go light on the stevia. So that's

798
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: definitely one. I would say from a cramp perspective, the

799
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Omega six oils that fats, they really jack up the

800
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: production of prostaglandin that controls uterine contraction, so makes you

801
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: have more painful cramps. Oh no, So you want to

802
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: just really avoid those types of things, and you want

803
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: to you know, choose your healthier fats, avocado, allive oil,

804
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: those things that actually increases the production of PG one

805
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: and three, which causes more uterine relaxation, so you can

806
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: expel the endometrium with less effort, which is how it's designed.

807
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: You're not designed to be in any pain during the month.

808
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: So that's the second one. That's an unusual one of

809
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: a third one because you qualify it.

810
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: Does something you just I feel like sometimes, I mean

811
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: from even my experience of my friends, they don't really

812
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: even think about the food that eating and how it

813
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: affects the homones.

814
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: So it doesn't even have to be.

815
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: Something that people find extremely unexpected. But you know, even

816
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: things like dairy, like does dairy affect your homones in

817
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: a positive or negative way?

818
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: I would say, I'm not so hung up on dairy.

819
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: The only thing I love to suggest is if you

820
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: have any sort of digestive or immune issues, like, try

821
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: to choose a two based dairy because it's going to

822
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: be more compatible with our intestinal system. But the one

823
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: thing that I would say that you could reconsider for

824
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: sure that we know has an impact on hormones is

825
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: way based protein.

826
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

827
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: I've been hearing way.

828
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Protein absolutely impacts insulin levels and pancreatic function and is

829
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: really problematic if you have any issues with acne or

830
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: pcos or anything sort of with cycle irregularities. I would

831
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: definitely not choose way based proteins. I don't use any

832
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: protein powders myself outside of collagen, but I tried a

833
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: bunch of them and I found them to be so

834
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: challenging from a digestive perspective that it just really started

835
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: to make sense to use more whole foods. So that's

836
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: what I do.

837
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: One thing I find people always on the fence about

838
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: soya products. I don't know whether you've had much research

839
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: in that, but I feel it went from one way

840
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: of saying it can give men boobs to you know

841
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: now saying actually, you have to consume an extreme large

842
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: amount for it to even have any kind of effect

843
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: on your hormone.

844
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: So well, I did do an experiment on my boyfriend

845
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: in my twenties with with tofu and soy based products,

846
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, for just a month, right, You're

847
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: just gonna eat you know, soy for the protein. And

848
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I can, from an anecdotal perspective, can absolutely attest to

849
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: the fact that that impacted his sex drive for sure.

850
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: Interesting, but he.

851
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: Was eating a large amount of it. Now, for women,

852
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: it is really about the quantity and the quality. So

853
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: back in twenty thirteen, I went on the Doctor Oz

854
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: Show and it was actually the first person to go

855
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: on national television to simulate the colors of menstrual blood

856
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: to talk about what the different colors of your bleed

857
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: needs or hormones. But we also took a he had

858
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: this super cool prop made for me. We dissected a

859
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: soybean and we looked at the good parts of the

860
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: soy and then the parts that were problematic, and it

861
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: was very fun. So I've been talking about this for

862
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: a long time. For women, it's quantity and quality. There

863
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: is protective aspects to soy. Phytoestrogens act as a selective

864
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: estrogen receptor modulator. So that's great because instead of you

865
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: having the dirty estrogen that your body produces impacting your cells,

866
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: the phytoestrogens from the soy. This is also true of

867
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: flax can adhere to those serm receptor sites on the

868
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: cell and prevent that interaction between the cell and those

869
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: dirty estrogens. Now you have to eat whole soy products,

870
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: so like nato etemamee right hempe fermented soy really really good.

871
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: But then when we get into like the more processed

872
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: soy products, TOFU is kind of neutral. Then we get

873
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: into like the soy milks and the soy protein powders

874
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: and all the sort of like hydrolyzed soy proteins, that's

875
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: when it becomes too much and problematic. So you definitely

876
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: want to use there's absolutely a place for soy products

877
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: if you're sensitive to them. Listen to that. You may

878
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: find that it's also stage of life. I find that

879
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: women in their forties and fifties really love incorporating soy

880
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: products as it has an estrogenic support to it, and

881
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: women who are suffering with a lot of symptoms in

882
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: their twenties and thirties might not find it as useful

883
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: for them. But you have to feel out your reaction

884
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: to food. Everyone's bioindividual, so there is no blanket statement

885
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: about which foods are the right foods, like there's no

886
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: perfect daily diet, which is why the cycle sinking method

887
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: is a and not a diet, right. It's about you

888
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: have to take the what is universally true about our

889
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: cycle health and our hormone ratios and our endocrine system functions,

890
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: and then you have to apply the method to your

891
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: unique female ecosystem and you have to feel intuitively, how

892
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: does this feel to me? Because we're all a little

893
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: bit different, and that's exactly what I want every woman

894
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: to be doing. Don't get stuck into a dogmatic relationship

895
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: with cycle thinking. This is not the point of that either,

896
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: make it your own.

897
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: What about?

898
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about supplements or hubs that

899
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: you recommend women specifically take and if they should change

900
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 2: throughout the cycle.

901
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: So I formulated supplements back in twenty seventeen because I

902
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: was really frustrated about, you know, the fact that we

903
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: just didn't have formulations that were really supportive to our hormones.

904
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: So yes, there are some table stakes things that the

905
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: endocrine system loves, so that I put in my balance

906
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: formulations which you can find on Flow Living. But those

907
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: are things like you need B vitamins. You need vitamin

908
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: B six to help with progesterone production, you need magnesium.

909
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: Magnesium is so critical for every aspect of our health,

910
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: so I prefer magnesium glyconate. We need omega three fatty acids.

911
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Why because it reduces inflammation on the level of the ovary,

912
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: promoting ovulation. It helps with mitochondrial health, which protects ovary health.

913
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: So I think omega threes are really really critical. Vitamin

914
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: D three, I mean D three is we call it

915
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: a vitamin, but it functions like a hormone in the body.

916
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: So that's just so essential for us to be having.

917
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: K one and K two are really good as well,

918
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: because it helps your body absorb more calcium from the

919
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: foods that you're eating. Studies show that taking supplemental calcium

920
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: is kind of not very helpful, but taking on the

921
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: cofactors that help your body make calcium from your dietary sources,

922
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: more bioavailable D three, K one, and K two really

923
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: really a good thing. Plus K one and K two

924
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: are helpful with reduce using cramps and probiotics because if

925
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: your gut is not functioning, your estrobolom is not able

926
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: to metabolize estrogen inside the intestinal tract, which is then

927
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: a problem because then you'll recirculate that estrogen. So those

928
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: are like the basics. Then if you get into some

929
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: more specific things like if you have PCOS, or if

930
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: you have heavy bleeding or fibroids, or if your perimenopausal

931
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: you're trying to conceive, then there are specific supplements that

932
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I recommend, which I formulated as well, that you can

933
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: go and look on the site and you can even

934
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: take a little evaluation and see which supplements are right

935
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: for you as far as in each phase of the cycle.

936
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: That is also something that you can use supplementally strategically,

937
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: different supplements through each phase. So things that I like

938
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: are Let's the way that I formulated the cycle sinking

939
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: supplements was looking at what are the kind of core

940
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: vulnerabilities of each phase. So in the filicular phase, our

941
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: core vulnerability if we aren't you know, managing it from

942
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: a cycle sinking perspective exactly perfectly. You could be a

943
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: little more fatigued, right, you just come off your bleed.

944
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: You could be a little low energy. So I like

945
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: to use coenzyme Q ten in this phase to naturally

946
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: boost cellular vitality, right, which are going to boost mitochondrial

947
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: energy in this phase. In the ovulatory phase, the vulnerability

948
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: is xtrogen overload. So if you have any breakouts during

949
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: ovulation breast tenderness during ovulation, this is a sign that

950
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: you're not metabolizing estrogen efficiently during ovulation, So you want

951
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: to use a couple of things like sulforaphane dim These

952
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: types of things really help the body metabolize estrogen better.

953
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: In the luteal phase, the core vulnerability is blood sugar

954
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: lows hypoglycemia, So I like using some simple things like

955
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: cinnamon chromium procolinate that really help keep our blood sugar

956
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: more stable. And then the menstrual phase, I would say

957
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: is the sort of histamine and cramping, and I really

958
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: love nettle extract for that nice so that you'll find

959
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: in the cycle sinking supplements. Also on flow living dot Com.

960
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: Is a chocolate.

961
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Any of the supplements that we could use throught what

962
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: phase can we use chocolate?

963
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Chocolate? I eat chocolate every I eat cocow every day.

964
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: Every day is a day for cocow gets a super food.

965
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: It's and it's especially important as you go through life,

966
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: especially in midlife, because cardiovascular health is more of a

967
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: thing to pay attention to in midlife. As estrogen levels

968
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: naturally decline, we have more risk of cardiovascular impact. Yes,

969
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: cocou is very cardiovascular protective. It's a longevity food that's

970
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: not a supplement. That's a super food. Get it girl

971
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: every day.

972
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, adult chocolate every single day.

973
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 2: A woman in her thirties comes to you and says,

974
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: I want my fertility to be the best it's ever been.

975
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: What do I do I'm in my thirties.

976
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean start cycle thinking immediately, you know, if you're

977
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: on birth control, get off of synthetic birth control.

978
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: Let give book about that.

979
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I was wondering. Yeah, okay, so start cycle

980
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: seeking reconc or the mill. Get off of alcohol. I

981
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: stop drinking two years before I first conceived, So I

982
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: stopped drinking at thirty five. I haven't reintroduced it into

983
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: my life since so it's been almost fifteen years with

984
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: no alcohol. One of the best decisions I've ever made

985
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: really reduces inflammaging. Right, So what we want to do

986
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: when we think about getting in the best fertile thing,

987
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: it's reduce inflammaging and like oversaturate yourself. From a nutrient perspective,

988
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: you want to when your when your body gets this,

989
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: when your brain and your ovaries kind of communicate like okay, uterus,

990
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: you're free to go. You're free to proceed with an implantation, right,

991
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: all systems are go. The way that that happens is

992
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: that you are energetically macronutrient micronutrient. From a micronutrient perspective,

993
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: ripe like a juicy peach. That's the visual I always

994
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: give my clients. Yes, I still see private clients of

995
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: ripe like a juice peach, right, ripe with nutrients. So

996
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: you have to be eating robustly. In fact, I would

997
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: say motherhood, the journey of motherhood really begins with the

998
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: moment you desire to become a mother, because you must

999
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: make a lot of changes to optimize your fertile ecosystem.

1000
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: The same way you would make those changes when you're pregnant,

1001
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: you would prioritize eating your best to have the healthiest baby,

1002
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: and the same if you were breastfeeding, you would be

1003
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: making those choices. So it's the same thing. You're starting

1004
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: your motherhood journey the moment you decide to be a mother,

1005
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: and so yes, you want to be eating really robustly

1006
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: whole foods, lots of plants, lots of protein, fats, all

1007
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: the things we talked about cycle sinking for your cycle phases.

1008
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Taking good quality supplements is important. Yes, you know, you

1009
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: really want to reduce that inflammation. So I really love

1010
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: ncetyl cysteine for that. I love our alphaalapoic acid. These

1011
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: things are supplements that are known to help with ovarian

1012
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: function and lowering that inflammation. And you know, just again

1013
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: taking away some of the toxins that create that sort

1014
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: of stress response in the body that might make it

1015
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: a problem from a conception point of view.

1016
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: Yes, and we've talked about the pill. We mentioned it.

1017
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: I really want to go into it.

1018
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: Does taking the pill for years in your early life

1019
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: affect your fertility a later time?

1020
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, there's not a lot of research where

1021
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: I can come out and give you a definitive answer.

1022
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: What I can say is that I think it is.

1023
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: What we do know is that the pill depletes you

1024
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: of some of the key micronutrients that your body needs

1025
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: from an endocrine system perspective to be maximally fertile. So

1026
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: there we do need to at least appreciate that there's

1027
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: got to be some sort of recovery period where you

1028
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: have to take some supplementation, improve your diet to kind

1029
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: of recover from being exposed to that medication for a

1030
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: period of time so that you can give yourself the

1031
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: best chance. And that conversation is not really being had like, well, no,

1032
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: it's just wait till get your period back and everything

1033
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: should work. But then we have all of this idiopathic,

1034
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 1: no known cause infertility, which is not necessarily being caused

1035
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: by birth control. But I do think that the overloading

1036
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: of the female body with endocrine system disruptive toxins, the

1037
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: mismanagement of our blood shirt, it's like a conflagration of

1038
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 1: many things that are going wrong for women's hormones puts

1039
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: us at this position where it's harder for us to

1040
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: get pregnant, and it shouldn't be so hard, No, So

1041
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I think that the pill is just one piece of

1042
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: that puzzle that can be you know, just something that's

1043
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: adding to that internal dysregulation when it does come time

1044
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: for you to be thinking about conception.

1045
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: Is there anything about the pill that you think women

1046
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: from a young age should know that they're not told.

1047
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it's not a cure for your period problems.

1048
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: But like that, it's the thing we like. It's not

1049
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: fixing your pcos. It's not fixing your fibris, it's not

1050
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: curing your endometriy. It's not getting rid of any of

1051
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: these problems because it's not it's not addressing the root

1052
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: causes of why those problems have arisen in your body.

1053
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: It's just a really like band aid situation.

1054
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: And have you seen from obviously the years of clients

1055
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: that you've seen and the studies that have taken place,

1056
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: anything that a woman is put on the pill for,

1057
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: like the standard things like acne and pcos. Have you

1058
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 2: seen other means of being able to heal your body

1059
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: through it be successful as I wanted to get I

1060
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: just wanted to.

1061
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Put it out.

1062
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: I fully agree, but I just think sometimes people will

1063
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: need to hear it because the amount of pressure and

1064
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: only choice given to women at such a young age,

1065
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: who like, oh god, I've got can I can't even

1066
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: leave the house. I don't even want to leave the

1067
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: house because of how I feel or how I look.

1068
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: Been there, I've been there. I mean it used to

1069
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: take me half and I remember the only thing that

1070
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: I that would cover the redness and the weltz well,

1071
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: I used to use Clinique under eye concealer as a foundation. Yeah,

1072
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, because no prescriptives under ie concealer as a foundation,

1073
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: because the regular foundation was not thick enough to cover

1074
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: and it would take me thirty minutes of what I

1075
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: would call spackling my acne. It was so painful and

1076
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: so humiliating to walk out of that. So I totally

1077
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: totally empathize with the situation that being said, how I

1078
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: cleared my skin was not with pharmaceuticals. Even topicals did

1079
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: not work. It really was only until I started healing

1080
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: my hormones that that things got better. But yes, absolutely,

1081
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: I think the reason why that is sort of the

1082
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: prevailing recommendation, like oh, just go on the pill, is

1083
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: because there's an assumption that we won't do the things

1084
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: that are needed. Yeah, right, you know, especially young teenage

1085
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: girls like, oh, well, they're just not going to do that.

1086
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: So let's an investment of energy time studying, like really

1087
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: understanding your body well.

1088
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: And I think, I actually think that the reason why

1089
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: we're set up for that, that's to me, by the

1090
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: time someone says to a woman, just go on the pill,

1091
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: that's the the baseball swing, the pitch of that was

1092
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: what you were educating, how you were taught about your

1093
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: cycle at puberty. So it's like a setup, right, It's

1094
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: like like this is going to be you know what

1095
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be. Yeah, and I'm not gonna and

1096
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: you're not going to understand your cycle. It's gonna kind

1097
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: of be this mysterious thing.

1098
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: And that you dread, yeah, and you don't want to

1099
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: so and.

1100
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: So then when you start to have problems where you

1101
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: just feel like I just can't manage this and I

1102
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on and I don't understand

1103
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: my body and nobody understands women's bodies, and like this

1104
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: is a mess. Please somebody help me. And it's like

1105
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: take the pill. Right, It's like a perfect little psychological setup.

1106
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: I get rid of all the things that you don't

1107
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: even want in your life.

1108
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and who wouldn't say yes to that?

1109
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: So I think the the solution is multi fast. That did.

1110
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I haven't almost eleven year old daughter

1111
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: at the time of this recording. Shoe will be eleven

1112
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: in two weeks. I dedicated this book to her, actually,

1113
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: and so one of the things that I started doing

1114
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: when she was you know eight, you know, I started

1115
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: talking to her about her cycle in different age appropriate ways.

1116
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't like the blood and the pads and that's

1117
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: like I didn't ever that talk when she was but

1118
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: I said things like, you know, cause she would come

1119
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and she'd be like, mom, what's going on? Yeah,

1120
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: Like you have no privacy as a mom. Just FYI

1121
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: Like people just walk in. It's like starts when you're

1122
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: in labor, Like forget it. At some point I thought

1123
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: to myself, Okay, how am I going to do this?

1124
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, because there's no modeling for any of us

1125
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: as moms, Like how do we empower our daughters to

1126
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: have a different trajectory than we had where like we

1127
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: weren't really given the right information. Said Okay, if she

1128
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: happens to stumble upon me changing a pad, should I

1129
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: try to hide that or should I just let her

1130
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: sort of see it and not make a big deal

1131
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: lot of it, and like, baby, we can have a discussion.

1132
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: So I obviously I went with plan B being the

1133
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: period queen. I thought maybe I should do that, and

1134
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: so we started having this conversation at eight, she's like,

1135
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: what is that. It's like, that's the nest, the nest

1136
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: that the baby could grow and cut, you know, an

1137
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: analogy that would be age appropriate. And then that turned

1138
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: into a well how does that happen? I was like, oh,

1139
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: you get you have this special biological clock that started

1140
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: at like nine. I started talking to her about her

1141
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: in Fredian rhythms, so I got her excited. Yeah, at

1142
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: nine years old, I said, you're going to go from

1143
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: feeling the same way every day to feeling a little

1144
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: different each week of a month. And that's a superpower.

1145
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: So still we're not talking about, you know, the bleeding

1146
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: and the pads and the tampons, And we still haven't

1147
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: had that conversation. And she's eleven. She's just starting her

1148
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: first signs of puberty, so right on time, and according

1149
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: to this, she should be getting her she should be

1150
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: getting her first bleed around the time I turned fifty,

1151
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: so it'll be like kind of a monumental celebration. And

1152
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: she knows that we're talking about going to be like

1153
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: this surprise, and I'm just really empowering her to be

1154
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: excited about it, about this big change that's going to

1155
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: happen as a source of empowerment and power for her.

1156
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: So there's nothing she could come in here and teach

1157
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: you about the Infredian rhythm, the four cycle phases, and

1158
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: what you need to do in each race. She is

1159
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: fully versed. She's not practicing it yet, but she knows

1160
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: that that's coming. Just prepared. And then the other thing

1161
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: that I do is I prepare her in the circadian

1162
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: ways to practice. You can't start at it like cold.

1163
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: So we do things like she looks at her bowel movements,

1164
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: not just what they look like, but what time is

1165
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: she having them? Should she be eating more vegetables, Should

1166
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: she be taking some more magnesium? Does she need more water?

1167
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: What's going on? She eats every three hours at school.

1168
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't make her wait. I mean they have lunch

1169
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: at eleven thirty in the morning, and then she has

1170
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: field hockey practice after school. So I pack her a snack,

1171
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: that's two thirty she's eating. Yeah, and then she comes

1172
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: home and she eats, and you know, so I'm like,

1173
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: she's already learning about stabilizing her blood shirt and I

1174
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: use that language, you eat to keep your blood sugar stable.

1175
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: So I don't dumb down the science. And I would say,

1176
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: as a mom of a young girl, we could definitely

1177
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: lean way into giving them a lot more education and

1178
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: more scientific realities about how their bodies work. They can

1179
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: handle it beautifully. And what would it be like if

1180
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: an entire generation of young girls knew how to balance

1181
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: their blood sugar, knew how to eat for their cycle phases,

1182
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: had no period problems in their twenties. What would be

1183
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: unleashed onto this planet a lot of feminine power. I

1184
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: am here for that, So, you know, I do think

1185
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: we have to start earlier so that when we do

1186
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: get to the place where people are having these sort

1187
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: of hormonal crises and they go to the gynecologist and

1188
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: the and they will, you know, offer the pill. That's

1189
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: what you should expect. Is not nothing wrong with offering it.

1190
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: That a young girl who's been educated in this different

1191
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: way might say, I'm going to take some time and

1192
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: do something.

1193
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: Get back to you on that.

1194
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: I'll get back to you on that. That's all. That's

1195
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: I just wann't that breathing space.

1196
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: For people, the feeling of empowerment and feeling like your

1197
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: body is in your hands.

1198
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: You can take the pill if you need to, but

1199
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to. You can, you don't have to.

1200
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: I remember when I change my mindset around dreading my period,

1201
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: and there was like this switch that I felt of like, wow,

1202
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: how grateful I am.

1203
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: That I get a period? Like how grateful?

1204
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,959
Speaker 1: And I started I still celebrate every money.

1205
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate my body for it.

1206
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: I thank my body for it every time I even

1207
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: get like a hint of it in my tummy. I

1208
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: literally I give myself a huargain. I'm like, gosh, I

1209
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: am so grateful that my body does this. I'm so

1210
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: grateful that it's so regular. I'm so grateful that our

1211
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: body gets to experience this every single month. And I

1212
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: think even psychologically, if you are dreading something, if you're

1213
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: constantly telling your body, I don't want this, I don't

1214
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: want this, I don't want this, of course the experience

1215
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: isn't going to be great. Of course, your mind is

1216
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: telling your body how it wants to feel. You're saying

1217
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna dread it, So, yeah, you'll dread it. And

1218
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: so I think having that shift of mindset as well,

1219
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: where you are just as we say to talk lovingly

1220
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: to our body, it's like, feel lovingly towards every process

1221
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: that happens in your body, and I think that will

1222
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: completely shift the way that it's your own interaction with yourself.

1223
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: It's like, how are you going to keep telling your

1224
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: body you don't want a process that is so natural

1225
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: to you? And then it just feels so different.

1226
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: You welcome it.

1227
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: You start to nourish your body differently, You start to

1228
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: realize what a gift it is, and as soon as

1229
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: you think of it in that way, you kind of

1230
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: start shifting and changing the way that you live to

1231
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: help it thrive.

1232
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a beautiful relationship. I would say. The other

1233
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: gift of the cycle sinking method as a consistent practice,

1234
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: like a yoga practice, right you show up every day,

1235
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: you do your best, is that it's a direct way

1236
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: for you to start actively engaging your feminine energy. And

1237
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: this is something that I think we need to be

1238
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: talking more about as women, because our feminine energy is

1239
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: very restorative and healing. I'm actually someone who's been studying

1240
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: this for the past twenty five years, and you know,

1241
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: really looking at the molecular and biochemical basis of feminine

1242
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: energy in the body. It's not this like woo woo

1243
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: thing you have to dress in robes and like follow

1244
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: the lunar cycles. That's really fun. You can do that too,

1245
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm totally down with that. But for most of us

1246
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: who are more type A women, right, we want things

1247
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: to be feeling like they're have some grounding, and feminine

1248
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: energy is a real thing inside of your body. We

1249
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: can look at it through the lens of our cycle phases, right,

1250
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: the ebbing and flowing of when we are nurturing others

1251
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: versus nurturing ourselves. That the fact that your cycle actually

1252
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: codifies a space and time for each of those activities

1253
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: should give us some role modeling of what it looks

1254
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: like to engage in feminine energy. Right, That there's a

1255
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: restoration period baked into our cycle as essential to fully

1256
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: expressing our feminine right is important that there is creative

1257
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: output but also restorative input. And this is important because

1258
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: you will not be cycling forever. Cycling is a finite,

1259
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: beautiful phase of your life, which is why every cycle

1260
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: should be celebrated. I every time I get my bleed,

1261
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: I put on a pretty robe, like a long like

1262
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: either a beautiful robe or like a long maxi dress.

1263
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,479
Speaker 1: I have like a special period tea cup that I use.

1264
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: It does have the lunar phases on it, and I

1265
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: make certain herbal tea and I like really celebrate. I

1266
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: welcome it that day. But when we practice engaging from

1267
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: our feminine more, it really helps set us up for

1268
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: a much easier, eased perimenopausal transition because instead of going

1269
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: through your reproductive years burning yourself out, yeah, draining like

1270
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, that leaky bucket, constantly draining your micronutrients,

1271
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: your energy, your blood sugar, your progesterone. You by the

1272
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: time you hit forty five, you are crispy from an

1273
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: ovarian perspective.

1274
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1275
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: If you start practicing, not only will you get all

1276
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: the best and fits, let's say, from a health perspective,

1277
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: but when you start engaging and living more in alignment,

1278
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: in attunement with your feminine energy, you also prevent this

1279
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: burnout and you get to live into your midlife transition

1280
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: in a much better way, with more of your feminine energy,

1281
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: with less body resentment, with more excitement and optimism for

1282
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: this next chapter of your life. So I just want

1283
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: to encourage younger women to be looking at it not

1284
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: just as a biohacking practice for you as a female,

1285
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: which of course it is, but also because it's a

1286
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: very psychological healing process of reclaiming feminine energy in your life.

1287
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've touched on perimenopause, and I'd love to ask

1288
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: you that before we come to an end, because we've

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Speaker 2: been going for a while and it's been such a

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Speaker 2: wonderful conversation. Butmenopause and menopause for women who I find

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Speaker 2: most women I know are dreading that phase of their life,

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Speaker 2: and again that's probably something that we've been told rather

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Speaker 2: than something that they actually should be dreading. What are

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Speaker 2: some of the tips or recommendations that you give to

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Speaker 2: someone going to perimenopoolse and then in menopoolse as well,

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Speaker 2: what's something you want them to know?

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Speaker 1: Well, perimenopause, you're still cycling, so keep cycle sinking. I

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Speaker 1: would say this is the time to up your game

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Speaker 1: on your circadian rhythm practices, so you know, make sure

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Speaker 1: if you haven't ever used a CG like get that

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Speaker 1: you may be more sensitive to glucose at this age

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Speaker 1: because estrogen's declining, So you may not be able to

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Speaker 1: eat as many carbohydrates in one meal as you used

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Speaker 1: to when you were younger. And that's okay, that's normal.

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Speaker 1: So you just need to kind of adjust for that

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Speaker 1: instead of saying, well, I used to be able to

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Speaker 1: do this, I wish I could go back to that. Yeah, yeah, sure, great,

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Speaker 1: But reality is, here's where you're at, So make the

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Speaker 1: adjustment in dosing of your carbohydrate macros. Sleep is a

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Speaker 1: priority that melot protect your melatonin at all costs. I

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Speaker 1: also recommend women starting to take melatonin after the age

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Speaker 1: of thirty five. And there are numerous studies that talk

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Speaker 1: about the importance of melatonin for women in terms of

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Speaker 1: bone density protection, ovulation regulation, breast cancer protection. It's an

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Speaker 1: essential In fact, it's the first hormone in the brain

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01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: to downregulate. That's really what kicks off perimenopause is the

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Speaker 1: lowering of melatonin production.

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Speaker 2: And taking melatonin does that not then disrupt your sleep

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Speaker 2: because a lot of people feel like they get such

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Speaker 2: light sleep from taking melatonin.

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Speaker 3: Is that not no.

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Speaker 1: It's really about quality and dosing. And I know that

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of chatter in the male biohacking

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Speaker 1: world about melatonin being like a no no, but that's

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Speaker 1: really because of one small study that talked about the

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Speaker 1: impact of melatonin on sperm production and sperm motility, which

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Speaker 1: obviously has nothing to do with women. So there are

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Speaker 1: many many I also publish a weekly newsletter on women's

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Speaker 1: biohacking that you can subscribe to on my Instagram channel,

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: and I did a whole expose on this whole topic

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01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: because I was just so frustrated women are terrified of

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Speaker 1: taking melatonin because of these conversations that are just again

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Speaker 1: when women are left out of research, We get these

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Speaker 1: top these little things like oh this is bad, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you have testicles, it's bad. If you have overaries,

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Speaker 1: it's a different conversation. And there are studies actually looking

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Speaker 1: at the impact of melatonin supplementation on ovariant function.

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Speaker 2: So it's definitely so through menopause, and then so they

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Speaker 2: continue to take it off to they've moved through.

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Speaker 1: Menipolos Absolutely such an important hormone, such an important supplement

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Speaker 1: for women's health. I think an unsung hero of women's

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Speaker 1: biohacking is melatonin strength training. You will have muscle wasting

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Speaker 1: after thirty five, so get on those weights and not

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Speaker 1: low weight, high rep, high weight, low rep heavy goals,

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Speaker 1: heavy girls. Yes, And then, like I said, the sleep thing,

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Speaker 1: blue light blocking. That's then one last thing for both

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Speaker 1: perimenopause and postmenopause. And this is a topic that we

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Speaker 1: don't get to talk a lot about, but really is

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01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: so important because again, as our cycle hormones go away,

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Speaker 1: we go back to a life of just our master

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: regulating hormones. So insulin, cortisol, all those things you want

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Speaker 1: to be managing melatonin, but oxytocin and nitric oxide are

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Speaker 1: really important. These are the hormones that we make when

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Speaker 1: we are in community, but also when we are in pleasure.

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Speaker 1: So upping your self pleasuring practice is a really important

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Speaker 1: thing to be doing in perimenopause. It actually promotes more

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Speaker 1: regular ovulation, can extend your ovulation, slows down the rate

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Speaker 1: of ovarian aging. I think getting very committed to a

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Speaker 1: self pleasuring practice that you're using specifically to generate more oxytocin.

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Speaker 1: It's like the inverse. You know, all the male biohackers

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Speaker 1: are talking about retention, and that is valuable for them

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Speaker 1: from a testosterone perspective, but for women it's the opposite.

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Speaker 1: The longer you can stay in orgasmic plateau, not climax

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Speaker 1: climax as the finish, but that phase before, the longer

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Speaker 1: you can stay in that phase, the more oxytocin and

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Speaker 1: nitric oxides you make. I've written about this in both

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Speaker 1: of my books. I talk about it as often as

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Speaker 1: I can, because, again, if people ask me what is

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Speaker 1: the one biohack, I would take it into deserted island.

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Speaker 1: I would say you just some loop, because that alone

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Speaker 1: would help protect many of your body systems and really

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Speaker 1: is a very important part of sailing through perimenopause and

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Speaker 1: menopause that I don't think is getting enough discussion.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this brilliant conversation.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we covered so many different things that

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Speaker 2: are really important for so many of the women in

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Speaker 2: this community to hear, and I feel like it's never

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Speaker 2: too late to make changes in your life ever. Listening

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Speaker 2: to this immediately, thank you exactly, Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being here. I'm so grateful for your book, so

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: grateful for all your research and the amount that you've

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Speaker 2: given back to this female community.

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Speaker 3: It's so so needed, So thank you. You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: I can I extend a little offer to your community

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Speaker 1: for the app for the cycle sanking Oh yeah please? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you're interested in cycle sinking and getting started,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome to download the Myflow app. It has the

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Speaker 1: same icon as the cover of the book, and you

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Speaker 1: can get access to a free month of the cycle

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Speaker 1: sinking feature by using the code rati.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, I'm going done today.

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Speaker 1: You know, make sure it has the circle icon and

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's a great tool because it's the

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Speaker 1: only official cycle sinking app created by me, and it

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Speaker 1: has you know, you can type in what what ingredients

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Speaker 1: you have in your pantry. It will give you customized recipes.

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Speaker 1: There's workout videos to take you through. It'll help you

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Speaker 1: sort of start planning your projects around your cycle phases.

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Speaker 1: It's a really.

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Speaker 2: Great help having a tool rather than having to figure

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Speaker 2: all out yourself.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, thank you so much.