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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio, man,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Norri with you.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Doherty back with us. A Bible college graduate, former

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Speaker 1: twenty year minister with more than one hundred thousand hours

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Speaker 1: of Biblical study. During his ministry, he saws some cracks

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Speaker 1: in the foundation of big time religion, which convinced him

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Speaker 1: that we have been trapped in a fear and guilt

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Speaker 1: based control matrix for two thousand years. He now dedicates

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Speaker 1: his life to providing unbiased information to help people. Mark

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Speaker 1: Twain said, it easier to fool someone than to convince

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Speaker 1: them they've been fooled. But as the Christian whistleblowers Jeffreys called,

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Speaker 1: he is not going to stop. He's an author, speaker,

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Speaker 1: proud father, grandfather, and thank you US Air Force veteran. Hey, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, George. It's so good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the first time you had me on

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Speaker 1: your show, I was still in my forties, and tonight

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Speaker 1: I sit here a couple of months my sixtieth birthday.

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Speaker 1: It's been a great ride and it's always an honor

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Speaker 1: to be invited on board the flagship, the de facto

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Speaker 1: organ of the Truth movement. You folks were the best,

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Speaker 1: and it's my privilege to be with you tonight. You

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Speaker 1: were with me in the beginning of my tenure my God,

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Speaker 1: twenty years already. It hasn't it been fun? George. It's

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Speaker 1: been a great ride, Jeff, and we've got many more

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Speaker 1: to go. They absolutely, we're just getting started. My friend,

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Speaker 1: lots to talk with you about tonight. But tell me

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Speaker 1: how did you get involved in biblical studies in the

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Speaker 1: first place. Well, you know, biblical studies. I grew up

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Speaker 1: in a family where my dad was initially a Sunday

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Speaker 1: school teacher. Then he had to fall out with his

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Speaker 1: church and he never darkened the door of a church again, George,

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Speaker 1: even when his son was preaching for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: But I always had a thirst and a hunger for divinity.

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Speaker 1: I knew that there was something beyond us and beyond

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Speaker 1: this world, and I gravitated back to what I knew.

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Speaker 1: I went back into the you know, the Christian religion,

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Speaker 1: became a minister of Baba College, graduate and preacher. But

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Speaker 1: I had an experience that happened to me in Germany

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Speaker 1: and you know what's called the burghoff the I guess

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like the summer whitehouse of then Adolf

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Speaker 1: Hitler down in Burchess Garden. Yes, and that got me

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Speaker 1: to realize there may be something beyond what I understand.

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Speaker 1: And here it is forty two years later, George, and

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Speaker 1: trying to figure this out, and knowing that we never will,

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Speaker 1: but being willing to keep my mind open to the

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Speaker 1: entire breadth of spirituality. And you've done quite a job

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Speaker 1: with it, Jeffrey, Thank you, sir. That's a great compliment

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Speaker 1: from you. Give us your thoughts on two things as

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Speaker 1: we start this program, we're going to talk about some

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Speaker 1: evil entities as well. But the Mandela effect in the Bible,

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Speaker 1: what's the relationship there? Well, George, it's funny you asked

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Speaker 1: me that because I just came across actually one of

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Speaker 1: my great subscribers sent me some stuff that looks like

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Speaker 1: a brand new Mandela effect to me. And it's quite

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Speaker 1: a striking one. But my belief, and you know, you always,

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Speaker 1: you always are very gracious, but you always ask me

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Speaker 1: the tough questions. I appreciate that. That's why people watch

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Speaker 1: this listen to this program. But I if you put

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Speaker 1: Mandela effect happening regarding the Bible? Being who I am, George,

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Speaker 1: I have to answer that I think that the true

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Speaker 1: benevolent divinity of the universe or divinities of the universe

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Speaker 1: what I would call revelational religion and get to relational

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Speaker 1: religion and as kind of telling us, look, maybe this

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Speaker 1: Bible isn't everything you thought it was, if it's being change,

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Speaker 1: if it's being altered, and maybe there's more divinity to

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Speaker 1: and maybe there's still some growing left to do in

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Speaker 1: The Mandela effect is a very strange thing where people

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Speaker 1: And I mean, just this example to me is so

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Speaker 1: at least a hundred times. I've got a Bible college degree.

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Speaker 1: in fact a Mandela effect. Numbers Chapter eleven, verse number twelve.

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Speaker 1: And here it comes, carry them in my bosom as

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Speaker 1: repeated again, George in Isaiah chapter forty seven, the nursing Father.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen the nursing father in the script before.

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Speaker 1: is it's not just one place in the scripture, George,

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Speaker 1: it's two. And those people that love the Bible will

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Speaker 1: it's a wake up called George for all of us.

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Speaker 1: And when you can't go back and look at the scripture.

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Speaker 1: Is it different? You know? I every Bible that I've

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Speaker 1: I've seen, even the old ones, it is exactly the same.

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Speaker 1: It's it's this new way. The nursing Father, the Wolf

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Speaker 1: and the Lamb. They're that way now. But I just

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Speaker 1: found something out very interestingly, our Latter Day Saint friends

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Speaker 1: in their hymn or in their hymnal George, it still

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Speaker 1: says the Lion and the Lamb, even though the King

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Speaker 1: James version that they use now says the Wolf and

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Speaker 1: the Lamb. So I find that's fascinating as well. What

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Speaker 1: causes these effects? Jeffrey, Again, George, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: divine entity stepping in and saying, you guys don't have

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Speaker 1: it all figured out. I'm giving you a chance to understand.

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Speaker 1: and maybe expand our concept of divinity, maybe make us say,

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Speaker 1: the spark of the divine within. That's my take on it, George.

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Speaker 1: At any rate, and how did you get involved in

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Speaker 1: studying paranormal entities? Jeffrey, Well, for three years when I

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Speaker 1: and then he explained to me that Adolf Hitler had

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know how to what to think about that.

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Speaker 1: so to speak. And then my kids started listening to

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM They turned me onto it. And

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Speaker 1: here we are some twenty years later, George, still trying

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Speaker 1: It is true and will we ever get the answers? Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, not while we're living. I think

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Speaker 1: at that, indeed, I have, and I find it very,

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Speaker 1: that seems to be very common, George, is that the

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Speaker 1: My father actually was a yeoman on the USS Henderson,

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Speaker 1: Could it be people from the Untersburg that Adolf Hitler

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Speaker 1: Where are these things coming from? And who's flying? It's

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Speaker 1: got me really really excited again about this whole genre, George. Well,

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Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Doherty, he wrote a booksheveral user goal called

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Speaker 1: New Testament. His website is his name, which we have

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Speaker 1: What happened in two thousand and two that you say

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Speaker 1: it sounds fantastic, George, but this his coast to coast

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Speaker 1: do you think about that, George. It's a great story. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: This is a very vast world that we don't totally understand.

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Speaker 1: them are benevolent. A lot of us aren't happy with

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