Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 1: I'm Meila, and happy.
Speaker 2: Hump Day, hump Day. How are you. I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I feel accomplished today. I feel like a whole adult.
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired. But I went to Digital Hollywood,
Speaker 1: a little conference at Squirreball, and they recently added a
Speaker 1: podcast aspect.
Speaker 2: It was very informative. There was a lot of big
Speaker 2: wigs in the podcast, and the red used that word before.
Speaker 2: I thought I'd try tonight. It's a very press and
Speaker 2: there are a lot of big wigs today in the
Speaker 2: podcasting industry. I learned a lot of information.
Speaker 1: I learned that women in podcasting right now are magic.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of growth to be had. I want
Speaker 1: to say, it's like a six hundred million dollar industry
Speaker 1: and it's expected to like increase rapidly in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Wow, I need some of that six hundred million. Okay,
Speaker 2: I need about thirty This is cool. Thirty, Well take fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gonna go half on a goat. We don't
Speaker 1: need to buy the guy. I just want to like
Speaker 1: charter it for a month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, filled with bus make more.
Speaker 1: Money, right, we could we could, Like I had this vision,
Speaker 1: mark my words, everyone. I was driving on the backstreets
Speaker 1: of Valley Vista and they have such like beautiful you know,
Speaker 1: value Vista, and I was look at these like two
Speaker 1: like there's some really like houses that have a lot
Speaker 1: of floors.
Speaker 2: You can tell they're long and big. And it's like
Speaker 2: me and Erica.
Speaker 1: She could live there and I could live a couple
Speaker 1: of doors down, and that way it will make podcasting
Speaker 1: still very we'll be rich.
Speaker 2: I like that idea. Yes, that's that, Erica, come in
Speaker 2: the balcony. I have to tell you something. I have
Speaker 2: an idea past. Yeah, but like, these are the thoughts
Speaker 2: that I have really because I feel like that is
Speaker 2: you speaking it right now, You're speaking it out into existence.
Speaker 2: Just keep talking about it.
Speaker 1: I also had another vision today we're going on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, there's a lot to talk about, a
Speaker 2: lot of examples, and Joe Rogan was a lot of
Speaker 2: the e and I was like, he's one of the
Speaker 2: biggest podcasts in the world. Yeah. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: we can make that happen. We're making that happen. At
Speaker 2: this point, I'm confident in our stalkership. Our stokership is
Speaker 2: higher point and so there's basically the only I could
Speaker 2: like my stockership could translate to like dating right now,
Speaker 2: but we can't stock men. It doesn't work. I'm not
Speaker 2: good at like. I don't have game when it comes
Speaker 2: to dating so like, but apparently have a really good
Speaker 2: DM game when it comes to like getting podcast guests.
Speaker 1: I'm right, but uh, I want to say, speaking of men,
Speaker 1: I guess we can get to that.
Speaker 2: How about your day? I worked, I did yoga because
Speaker 2: I need it. You did it in the backyard. I
Speaker 2: went to a class which one the heat of yoga.
Speaker 2: I go to down the street corpar ivor okay, by
Speaker 2: the Encino Plaza. So I did that, and then I, uh,
Speaker 2: I went to work. So I was working. I was
Speaker 2: shooting all day.
Speaker 1: Speaking of yoga, we have a yoga event coming up
Speaker 1: yes on December seventh.
Speaker 2: Checking with us for more details.
Speaker 1: If you're in the LA area, We're gonna do a
Speaker 1: nice little CBD No.
Speaker 2: No, it's not CBD, THHC PHC and yoga collab. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: do a little THHC listine strips specifically, they're well, they're
Speaker 2: like listing trips. They dissolving your mouth. They're basically edibles,
Speaker 2: but they hit your body within ten minutes, and they're
Speaker 2: gonna go to yoga and it's gonna be fun, wonderful.
Speaker 2: I need. I need a lot of yoga the past
Speaker 2: this week has been very interesting for me. You know,
Speaker 2: I remember, like a few episodes ago, I was talking
Speaker 2: about how this year, that this this next year, and
Speaker 2: like me, turning thirty two was really a year and
Speaker 2: confirmation to me that I need to follow my intuition.
Speaker 2: I need to follow my gut. I need to follow
Speaker 2: my body because my body really tells me everything before
Speaker 2: anything else. And this week was confirmation of that. So
Speaker 2: where do I begin? Have we just getting right to it?
Speaker 2: Once upon a time? I feel like this is a
Speaker 2: question that's come up.
Speaker 1: Have we talked about this person? Did we talk about
Speaker 1: this in our Atlanta recap?
Speaker 2: Briefly? Okay? So so people people have asked us if
Speaker 2: we've ever slept with someone that we've met on the podcast, right,
Speaker 2: have you ever slept? Well, a lot of people ask us,
Speaker 2: have we slept together? But that's for another story, that's
Speaker 2: for another time. But people ask us too, like, have
Speaker 2: we ever slept with anyone that listens to the podcast
Speaker 2: or like found us on the podcast.
Speaker 1: And if you if you're like one of our people people,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're on social that we do interact
Speaker 1: all the time with everybody because that's our community. Like
Speaker 1: that's it's really cool to meet new people and like
Speaker 1: e meet them and that's a part of it. And
Speaker 1: so of course that includes men too. I mean it's
Speaker 1: mostly women, but there's always we have like men that
Speaker 1: are our regulars.
Speaker 2: God, you make us on like prostitute regular pod. I
Speaker 2: saw them on regular this week podcast, Prostitutes. You know what.
Speaker 2: I have a friend that always DMS me.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually, our friend who got us videographer in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: This is how this is where she gets fucked up.
Speaker 2: We think everybody's our friend, but he lives in Orange County.
Speaker 2: And I was like, if I'm ever in Orange County,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give him a call because we're
Speaker 2: just such friends.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, so, this is one of those cases
Speaker 1: that has never happened before but gone wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gone terribly terribly wrong. So take it away, Take
Speaker 3: it away, Erica. So so okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll start it. So those of you who don't know.
Speaker 1: We're on Patreon high Patreon.
Speaker 2: If you haven't joined our Patreon, you should. You can
Speaker 2: see you can watch this episode tonight. You can watch
Speaker 2: this episode and we get into classic Camera, so you
Speaker 2: might want to get up on there. Yeah, so you
Speaker 2: can watch all our episodes on Patreon and go ahead.
Speaker 1: So when we first decided to get on Patreon, our
Speaker 1: very first Patreon member was this person and.
Speaker 2: Eric has like, there's this guy he's for his Patreon. Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, I thought it was a girl.
Speaker 1: It was a girl, but then she continued to converse
Speaker 1: with him, and he DMed us.
Speaker 2: There was really very vague profile, no pictures. I thought
Speaker 2: at first, I thought it was like some other person
Speaker 2: that that like be trying to stalk me, you know
Speaker 2: I'm talking about yah. So I was like I didn't
Speaker 2: trust it at first, but then I was like, oh no,
Speaker 2: this this person is he listens and he wants to
Speaker 2: support us. He began to like converse with Erica. He
Speaker 2: began to give podcast advice essentially, and then I saw
Speaker 2: his picture and I was like, damn, he's like fine.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, he's kind of fine. So Erica
Speaker 2: proceeded to continue to talk to him.
Speaker 1: He was fine, to the point where I was like,
Speaker 1: how many times day are you facetiming this person?
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't not. Don't relax. How many times? How
Speaker 2: many times have I Facebook? Okay? I mean we definitely facetimeed,
Speaker 2: but like we weren't like face time every single day.
Speaker 2: Was he consistently texting you? And yeah? Yeah he was? Okay.
Speaker 2: So in the beginning though, it was like slow, Like okay,
Speaker 2: so in the beginning, come he gives a timeline. When
Speaker 2: was this? When did this begin? I think it started
Speaker 2: in August?
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're in November August, uh, about three months?
Speaker 2: For four months? Okay? Okay. So he told me that
Speaker 2: he found our podcast through Spotify. He was listening to
Speaker 2: some other he listened to a lot of podcasts, so
Speaker 2: he'd found ours through like the search of podcasts, and
Speaker 2: that he really enjoyed our show. That he was a
Speaker 2: single dad raising his son, and that you know, our
Speaker 2: content somehow spoke to him. So I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: that's amazing, Like this is a guy, this is a dad,
Speaker 2: and he was really like supportive of our ship. So,
Speaker 2: you know, we started to get to know each other
Speaker 2: a little bit more through text and facetiming. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, it was he was cool. He was cool.
Speaker 2: There were things that I wasn't sure about, and I'm specific,
Speaker 2: Fuck it, we're gonna tell the story. We're telling a
Speaker 2: fucking story. There were she was questioning. He had a
Speaker 2: rather strange octave voice. It was like and when she
Speaker 2: told me this, I was like, what the fuck do
Speaker 2: you mean? What do you mean by that? You need
Speaker 2: to be more specific.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, really, like, oh, whoa, You're making it
Speaker 1: way worse.
Speaker 2: It was as you made it worse when you explained
Speaker 2: it to me. Oh god, And I was like, oh whoa.
Speaker 2: And by no means are we discriminating against the different
Speaker 2: octave voices. I'm discriminating. Fuck that shit. I like my
Speaker 2: niggas to have a deep ass voice. That sucks, because
Speaker 2: you know, I know another man who has more. You
Speaker 2: know what, I never realized that voice could really deter
Speaker 2: you until this situation, because it took me a while
Speaker 2: to really warm up to him because his voice annoyed me.
Speaker 2: I never realized, like voice, Okay, I got to add
Speaker 2: that to the list. The manifestation voice, deep voice, low octave.
Speaker 2: So so these exchanges continued.
Speaker 1: And even you know, to the we're obviously we're like
Speaker 1: see each other every fucking single day, every second.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, so basically, you know, we would talk, we'd
Speaker 2: flur I like maybe I got drunk a few times,
Speaker 2: facetimed him. We had sexy talk and shit, and then
Speaker 2: eventually we started talking about like maybe meeting each other
Speaker 2: one day. So you know, me and Smila recently had
Speaker 2: a show in Atlanta, and he lives in North Carolina,
Speaker 2: in Charlotte. So he was like, I'm gonna come to
Speaker 2: the show, which keep in mind is literally like four
Speaker 2: hour so he's driving four hours to come meet me.
Speaker 2: It's our first time meeting me.
Speaker 1: He made a reservation literally like four weeks in advance.
Speaker 2: For dinner for two. Right, So this guy too, like
Speaker 2: he is like thirty three or he just turned thirty
Speaker 2: four yesterday, which I'll get to that and why that's important.
Speaker 2: But he has a really great job, single dad, owns
Speaker 2: his own home, has beautiful.
Speaker 1: Home, beautiful home, Like you know, I had had a
Speaker 1: really I had a really good job, a good job.
Speaker 2: Like he just checked all the boxes that that were
Speaker 2: important to me and in ways, and I guess in
Speaker 2: like the very surface ways and he made reservations and
Speaker 2: he and I've always wanted a guy that would plan. Although,
Speaker 2: like then he came into my life and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is a lot of planning. I don't know, this
Speaker 2: is too much planning, but he was. He was very
Speaker 2: into planning. Yeah, which makes sense. I mean even like
Speaker 2: I was getting on face, I'm like, hey, what a do?
Speaker 2: What do you think about this? For this, like for Patreon,
Speaker 2: because yeah, he gave us advice about shit, you know,
Speaker 2: so for the sake of this, and what we were
Speaker 2: calling him to each other was our O G. Patrearg.
Speaker 2: It was our O G.
Speaker 1: Patreon Bay because he was the first person to ever sign.
Speaker 2: Up, and he was like giving us tips and tricks
Speaker 2: and what he thinks we should do. And you know,
Speaker 2: we're open to constructive curticies, right, so we're always like, okay,
Speaker 2: so what do you think about this? So continue? Okay,
Speaker 2: So we get to Atlanta and I'm getting nervous too.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like I'm gonna be this guy.
Speaker 1: She's feeling pressure. Could she could tell he's getting excited
Speaker 1: about the meetups? I mean, hence the four week in
Speaker 1: advance table for two at fucking STK because everybody knows
Speaker 1: you need to book out weeks for that.
Speaker 2: So I'm like a little nervous, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, like what am I doing. I'm meeting some
Speaker 2: random guy whatever. So we met. I meet him at
Speaker 2: STK and you know, I'm gonna keep it real now
Speaker 2: because I was nervous to meet him, and I had
Speaker 2: two of my homegirls coming out and they were I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to ESDK to meet him. She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: we'll go too.
Speaker 1: And before this, I kept joking with him like I
Speaker 1: was like, why can't I come?
Speaker 2: Like I kept telling her I'm coming. You know how
Speaker 2: I like to sign myself up for some dinners.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, if he's a pag og patren,
Speaker 1: I need to come to dinner. I kept joking, joking, joking.
Speaker 2: So we go to STK and my go home girls
Speaker 2: come to the restaurant. We act like I acted like
Speaker 2: I told him. I was like, my friends just happened
Speaker 2: to make a reservation here too, but really like I
Speaker 2: don't know you, nigga, So yeah, my friends are about
Speaker 2: to come, and it's funny.
Speaker 1: I ended up going on a date that night with
Speaker 1: it like an old fling, and he We went to
Speaker 1: Cafe inter Mezzo, which used to be down the street
Speaker 1: but it moved literally into the same building as SDK,
Speaker 1: So when we pulled.
Speaker 2: Up, I was like, yes, well that was an accident.
Speaker 2: That was an accident. I wasn't really trying to stalk,
Speaker 2: but my other friend Ashley and Donna coming was on purpose,
Speaker 2: so they come.
Speaker 1: I stopped my ass by because I had to see
Speaker 1: this person in person too.
Speaker 2: So at this point, like we're in front of each other,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, he you know, he looks like his pictures.
Speaker 2: We've allays we'd faced time before, so like I'd already confirmed,
Speaker 2: like he's a real person and not like this phantom
Speaker 2: instagram that he has with no picture and your friends
Speaker 2: met him. He seemed fine. We had cool, Like he
Speaker 2: was cool. I could tell he was like a little nervous,
Speaker 2: but I just like figured, I figured because like it's, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's our first time he fucking drove to see me
Speaker 2: like far, and you know, it's just it's we're in
Speaker 2: a new city. It's exciting. So I'm aggressive, so you know,
Speaker 2: I tell us ask to come over and sit next
Speaker 2: to me. We start making out at the restaurant. Erica
Speaker 2: is really good for me, public makeup. We make out
Speaker 2: at the restaurant and then we, uh, we go out.
Speaker 2: We go out. So we went to like where do
Speaker 2: we go? If you did, you come with us? No,
Speaker 2: I had to go. We went to like this, We
Speaker 2: went to this. Oh, we went to Pals and it
Speaker 2: was like it was it was Pride night, so it
Speaker 2: was like a blot of gays there and we were
Speaker 2: just drinking and ship and after a certain amount of time,
Speaker 2: like I was drunk and I was ready to go.
Speaker 2: So we went back to his hotel and he was
Speaker 2: staying like down the street from where I was staying,
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, we had sex. We hooked up and
Speaker 2: it was cool. It was good. Actually it was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Would you say. He was like looking deep into your eyes.
Speaker 2: He was like, well, first he didn't want to have
Speaker 2: sex with me. He said, I don't want I'm not
Speaker 2: having sex with you because I wanted to be meaningful.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is meaningful. Wait wait, I
Speaker 2: assured him. Well, he was trying to be like like
Speaker 2: he cared I wanted to be meaning and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm horny. We've waited, you're not you don't live here,
Speaker 2: We're fucking I'm horny. The end, I'm naked, let's go,
Speaker 2: so you know. And then this was also like one
Speaker 2: of the red flags too, because after we hooked up,
Speaker 2: I'm a cuddler, Like I'm super affectionate after sex, especially
Speaker 2: if I enjoyed it, which I did. I didn't even
Speaker 2: want to really cuddle with him, to be honest, Like
Speaker 2: he was trying to cuddle me, and I was like
Speaker 2: I was doing it, but like there was something that
Speaker 2: was like just not right there, you know. And so
Speaker 2: that was like my body couldn't really get into it.
Speaker 2: But whatever. So then the next day we have our
Speaker 2: shal Live show, right, so I talked to him. He's
Speaker 2: asked me how it's going. Me and Jamila are running
Speaker 2: around like fucking crazy bitches, as you already heard, and
Speaker 2: we get to the show. We do the show, and
Speaker 2: at the end of the night, I noticed that he
Speaker 2: wasn't there. The guy I brought to the guy I
Speaker 2: brought to her date was like, oh, where is so
Speaker 2: and so?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know, find it. I'm
Speaker 1: like texting. I'm like, don't text me. I'm I'm having
Speaker 1: nervous break down. And then we've.
Speaker 2: Dawned on us later that evening, like, oh, I did
Speaker 2: not see him right, So I text him like, Yo,
Speaker 2: are you okay? Like what the fuck? I'm thinking, like, damn,
Speaker 2: he just like didn't come with was the sex not bomb?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's me not not an option. He text
Speaker 2: me back and tells me he got in a car
Speaker 2: accident and that he it's crazy. He was with his
Speaker 2: cousin or something and his friend and like, you're at
Speaker 2: the hospital right now. And I'm thinking, like, didn't he
Speaker 2: send you a picture of a like a band or something, yeah,
Speaker 2: like something like a hospital. Yeah. So yeah, So all
Speaker 2: at first my friends were like, he that's bullshit. He
Speaker 2: didn't get a fucking car accident. That sounds like some bullshit.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, is it bullshit? But then he sent
Speaker 2: me something like confirmed it wasn't. So whatever, he didn't come.
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see him before he left. We
Speaker 2: only had that one night. He goes back to Charlotte,
Speaker 2: I go back to LA. We continue to talking, not
Speaker 2: every single day, but you know, every other day consistently.
Speaker 2: I would say uh at this point, like so he
Speaker 2: told me, oh, I don't even told you this. So
Speaker 2: he told me the reason why he's a single dad
Speaker 2: is because he was engaged and the woman he was
Speaker 2: engaged to, who is the mother of a child. One
Speaker 2: one weekend he went to a concert and he came
Speaker 2: back and she packed up all her shit and moved
Speaker 2: to London with his son. Wait, I hadn't. I don't
Speaker 2: remember this, he said. He just came back into the
Speaker 2: house was empty. Yes, well not the house empty where
Speaker 2: her ship was gone and his son was gone and
Speaker 2: they were across the pond and she had moved away,
Speaker 2: and he was devastated and that uh yeah, And so
Speaker 2: now he shares his son. When we first started talking,
Speaker 2: he had his son. So he's like, I share my
Speaker 2: son six months out of the year. I get him
Speaker 2: for six months, gets and I recall her be like
Speaker 2: it's a really weird setup. Yeah. I was like every
Speaker 2: six months. I was like, how is it? He's like
Speaker 2: three right, Yeah. She was like, I was like, the
Speaker 2: baby's gonna forget who's who every six months?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like that's I even told him. I like,
Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like a good like co parenting schedule.
Speaker 2: And then didn't. He said, like, you're asking if you
Speaker 2: guys FaceTime a lot, and he said, no, we would
Speaker 2: think I was in the relationship. He said, she's did
Speaker 2: you say she was blocked? No? No, no, no, there's
Speaker 2: somebody else. You're mixing up people. So so yeah, and
Speaker 2: he told me that. So he had a trip plan.
Speaker 2: So this is before Atlanta, Like, let's rewind. So at
Speaker 2: the beginning of us talking, he said he was going
Speaker 2: to the Bahamas. This is like maybe like three weeks
Speaker 2: two or three weeks into us talking, He's like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to the Bahamas, and uh, this is where we're
Speaker 2: going to do the trade off. I'm going to bring
Speaker 2: my son. She's coming with her new soccer player boyfriend
Speaker 2: and she's going to pick up my son and we're
Speaker 2: going to do the trade there. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. And then I was like, is she an immigrant?
Speaker 2: Why can't she come to the States. Why are they
Speaker 2: making up in the Bahamas? I had so many questions, right,
Speaker 2: and so he was like yeah, So he goes to
Speaker 2: the Bahamas. He texts me some photos from the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: I asked him how the trade off went. He said
Speaker 2: it was hard. I didn't like really want to go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to work that out. The son didn't
Speaker 2: really want to have to go. The son didn't really
Speaker 2: want to have to go. I didn't really want to go.
Speaker 2: And then like I guess he lost his temper more
Speaker 2: than he wanted to with her. That he's gone now
Speaker 2: and he's with her in London and he's not going
Speaker 2: to see him till Christmas. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: that like pulled my heartstrings because I'm like, damn, like
Speaker 2: that must be really hard. I can't imagine being going
Speaker 2: six months without seeing my daughter. So then at some
Speaker 2: point along in the story of their relationship, he tells
Speaker 2: me that she's in DC and that he needs to
Speaker 2: fly down to DC to see her because she has
Speaker 2: something to tell him, and his son is with her,
Speaker 2: and so he just hopped on a plane because it
Speaker 2: was an opportunity to see his son. So he goes
Speaker 2: there and he tells me that, Okay, she told me
Speaker 2: that she's pregnant and she just needs She cried and
Speaker 2: she's a mess, and so I just took our son
Speaker 2: for the day and let her like do her thing.
Speaker 2: She'd confess all this at the hotel. He's asking me
Speaker 2: for advice, like what should I do? And I'm telling him,
Speaker 2: I'm like, she probably needs you to be her friend
Speaker 2: right now. She doesn't need you to like lecture her,
Speaker 2: Like I'm over here giving him advice about how to
Speaker 2: deal with her. And he's like he calls me back
Speaker 2: later and tells me like, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: that advice. It really was helpful. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Okay, So then at some point he tells, like,
Speaker 2: at some point in our talking a few months ago,
Speaker 2: like a month goes by, and he tells me that
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but oh so then we
Speaker 2: were planning to wait this up. No, that's afterwards, when
Speaker 2: was this? At some point, he gets his son back
Speaker 2: because she's a mess. She's partying, she's going out all
Speaker 2: the time. Did she not keep the baby? She's yeah,
Speaker 2: she's not, she's not. Oh yeah, she got an abortion.
Speaker 2: She got an abortion. She's partying all the time. He
Speaker 2: just went to get his son. Now he has his son,
Speaker 2: So now he's back to being a son. Hey, I
Speaker 2: have a question.
Speaker 1: Sorry, did he say anything about his interaction with the
Speaker 1: soccer player boyfriend in the Bahamas when he got back.
Speaker 2: Was it weird? Yeah? He said that was he cool?
Speaker 2: Like what was that? I can't I don't remember. I
Speaker 2: didn't ask all the details. I remember him saying like
Speaker 2: it was fine, like they just kept to themselves. Okay.
Speaker 2: I also asked him recently, I said, would you ever
Speaker 2: forgive her? Like, would you do you think you could
Speaker 2: ever get back together with it? No? I asked her,
Speaker 2: are you in love with her still? And he was
Speaker 2: like no, No, He's like, of course I love her,
Speaker 2: I have love for her, but I'm not in love
Speaker 2: with her. You know what she did to me, She
Speaker 2: like moved to London and like left me over a weekend.
Speaker 2: I could never I could never forgive her for that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, I mean I
Speaker 2: get it because if you were in love with her,
Speaker 2: I would understand because I have a lot. I'm still
Speaker 2: untangling this relationship with my baby daddy and like trying
Speaker 2: to like, you know, close that chapter. So I get it.
Speaker 2: You know, we're just talking as because I feel like
Speaker 2: we're having some experience, you know. Anyway, So we he
Speaker 2: just tells me he's coming to La which is actually
Speaker 2: this week. So this is after after Atlanta. This after Atlanta,
Speaker 2: he tells me, I'm going to to LA for work
Speaker 2: and I would love to see you. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's do it. So because he's such a fucking planner,
Speaker 2: he sends me notes and like wants me to fill
Speaker 2: in the days of like what we can do on
Speaker 2: the calendar, restaurants we can go to. But he would
Speaker 2: you mean like in your note. Yeah, he sends me
Speaker 2: Apple notes. You know I'm talking about. Yeah, I'm getting
Speaker 2: a little friends. Yeah yeah, this is oh wait, oh
Speaker 2: so like, uh I'm free. No it like literally says
Speaker 2: Monday airport drop off seven am, check in a hotel
Speaker 2: like eleven eleven am, uh, find bluesy like, eat breakfast
Speaker 2: at a breakfast spot, find good music. Ask Erica like
Speaker 2: literally detailed, like he needs to know what he's doing
Speaker 2: all day every day. Yeah you know, okay, keep going,
Speaker 2: Like you know that kind of speaks to my heart.
Speaker 2: But also like I'm kind of that person, but I'm
Speaker 2: mostly not. I need a little bit of that, but
Speaker 2: I also need to go with the fucking flow. So
Speaker 2: I was also trying to encourage him. I said, what if,
Speaker 2: like we do something crazy and we don't plan some shit.
Speaker 2: Well we know why the nigga has to plan everything,
Speaker 2: So anyway we plan. He's excited to come to LA.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really that excited because even through all
Speaker 2: of this, even though I know he's a good like
Speaker 2: he's checks out on a lot of boxes, there's something
Speaker 2: that's off like our I don't know, like he seems
Speaker 2: like nervous and he's not like he's not funny, which
Speaker 2: is really important to me what it is, Like he'd
Speaker 2: like our conversations are fun. I think I'm the funny
Speaker 2: one in the conversation. Like he's amused by me, right,
Speaker 2: and like he knows you. He thinks he knows you
Speaker 2: because he's listened. He is he like really listens to
Speaker 2: the podcast. He knows all of me and Jamila's businesses
Speaker 2: like business like hat like all of our bays, all
Speaker 2: of our shit. Okay he really he really? Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 2: So I end up I end up not being finding
Speaker 2: out I'm not going to be in LA when he's here.
Speaker 2: So I call him and I tell him, like, hey,
Speaker 2: so I found out actually have to go to LA
Speaker 2: to New York. During that time, I'm literally like leaving
Speaker 2: the day you come and he like has a like
Speaker 2: a meltdown over the phone. Can you give you an
Speaker 2: instant replay?
Speaker 4: Oh oh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, wow wow.
Speaker 2: Bitch the sound effects. I was on the other end
Speaker 2: like is this happening? Like what's is he? Okay? Because
Speaker 2: it was like it's like a horse over there, Like
Speaker 2: I've never heard like these type of sounds, like as
Speaker 2: a reaction to disappointment. And I heard it again after
Speaker 2: that too something else like it's a thing which I
Speaker 2: don't know whatever, So I'm like, okay, so that was
Speaker 2: weird and I talked about it later because I was like,
Speaker 2: that was really weird, Like I said, you aren't making
Speaker 2: all these noises, and also like what are your expectations exactly,
Speaker 2: like like where you can see each other another time?
Speaker 2: And that also let me know too, because you know,
Speaker 2: i'd be obsessed. I'm not obsessed. I didn't like you're
Speaker 2: obsessed or you're not. Yeah, I'm not obsessed. So I
Speaker 2: was like, you need to chill. So he apologized and
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know that reaction. There's a lot
Speaker 2: going on that day. Some things happened that day. I
Speaker 2: mean I had a hard day at work, and then
Speaker 2: I found out I'm not going to see my son
Speaker 2: and until Christmas. Now until after Christmas. Wait, I thought
Speaker 2: he had the son because she was going to the
Speaker 2: club a lot. Okay, No, this is okay, my timelines off.
Speaker 2: This is like maybe like a week before he got
Speaker 2: his son. Okay, So I just said his son just
Speaker 2: happened recently. I just got his son back. Okay, recently, Okay,
Speaker 2: like recently to this very moment. Okay, Okay. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's like, I'd found out I'm not going to have
Speaker 2: my son, and it was just then then I get that,
Speaker 2: and it was just all these blows and I just
Speaker 2: I just didn't take it. Well. I'm sorry. I want
Speaker 2: you to know I don't have any expectations. I know,
Speaker 2: like you know, you're not looking for anything serious. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not envisioning us getting married in your
Speaker 2: backyard or anything like that, because I had said if
Speaker 2: I ever get married and again, I would just get
Speaker 2: married in my backyard. And I'm like, okay, that's a
Speaker 2: strange reference that you remembered. That was weird. Okay, You're
Speaker 2: not gonna get married in your backyard. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not like that, it's not like that. I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well then we'll see each other some
Speaker 2: other time. So what happened? I'm going to New York.
Speaker 2: We're calling each other.
Speaker 1: No wait, there was a text message like after that
Speaker 1: there was like listen, I know da da da, but
Speaker 1: I would really like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's he's He texts me and then called me
Speaker 2: and said that, look, I know you're not going to
Speaker 2: be here, but like I really want to see you again.
Speaker 2: Can we How can we make that happen if I
Speaker 2: have to come, Like, I can make the accommodations to
Speaker 2: make it happen. And you know, like I a bitch
Speaker 2: likes the word accommodation. Yeah, and also like I'm not
Speaker 2: used to that. This is also I'm over here thinking like,
Speaker 2: is this naging checking off my manifestation list because he
Speaker 2: said accommodation. He's saying accommodations. You know we're basic. Hello Hello,
Speaker 2: did you say accommodations? Hold on one second, I think
Speaker 2: I'm getting married. Yeah, well, actually I'm free because you
Speaker 2: just said the magic motherfucking word accommodations. Oh god, it's
Speaker 2: true though. Oh it's so sad. I'm actually embarrassed. It's okay,
Speaker 2: we gotta grow. We're growing. But not only that, my
Speaker 2: friends were like telling me I was being too hard
Speaker 2: on him, like because I would tell him like there's
Speaker 2: this guy. I don't know why I would say that, Okay,
Speaker 2: so so so much so that like the reason Okay.
Speaker 2: So at some point he said that to me, and
Speaker 2: I still was like I'm not going to see him, Like, well,
Speaker 2: I'll see him some other time, not like I'm never
Speaker 2: gonna okay, but a little bit You're like a little
Speaker 2: bit no, for sure. I was like, Okay, that's kind
Speaker 2: of sexy, but also like I have to go back
Speaker 2: and see like my daughter's coming to the East Coast,
Speaker 2: Like i gotta get back to Pennsylvania. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to extend my trip whatever. Oh because he then he
Speaker 2: suggested to come there. Yeah, he was like he was
Speaker 2: like snow Alegra was playing at Webster Hall on the
Speaker 2: twenty fourth. Wait I want to take you? Wait was
Speaker 2: sorry November twenty fourth at Webster Hall. Get us two tickets? Okay,
Speaker 2: got it? So anyway, so I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 2: So that I told my mom about him, so I
Speaker 2: was like, Mom, like I met this guy and like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I showed him her. I showed her
Speaker 2: his picture. He's like he's cute. He's cute, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's like he's a corporate job, like has a good job.
Speaker 2: Like he's the same dad. Is that a rapper? Shots that? Wow?
Speaker 2: He could be the one. Wait did you say did
Speaker 2: you say Bank of America? Did you say Sellars? Saying
Speaker 2: health in Hell? Yeah, I said health and sure did
Speaker 2: own his own. Yeah, So all he was checking up
Speaker 2: all these boxes, you know, and he's young, Like he's
Speaker 2: like yeah, anyway, So I told him. She's like, I
Speaker 2: was like, mom, I really I like him, but like
Speaker 2: his voice, I don't know, I can't you know, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a thing. I was like, his voice kind of
Speaker 2: irritates me. And she was like, what do you She's like,
Speaker 2: call him, call him right now? You did? You know?
Speaker 2: Everybody said that when you said it. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: call him, let speak or anything. Well first because I called.
Speaker 2: The first time I called was Sebastian and his ass
Speaker 2: is so motherfucking extra. I called and then he was
Speaker 2: like hello, and I had to hang up the phone
Speaker 2: because he was so goddamn loud. And then I was,
Speaker 2: and then he was like I called it back. He's like,
Speaker 2: are you okay?
Speaker 1: So anyway, I have to think somewhere trying to talk
Speaker 1: like the very white I'm all the rest of.
Speaker 2: His life, Jesus, look he better, And I know your
Speaker 2: mother fucking listening and your voice fucking sucks. Hate you
Speaker 2: huh yeah yeah, but don't open it right now. It's
Speaker 2: not Christmas. Okay, close the door. Close the door, please
Speaker 2: close the door. Why is just their tops off? You know,
Speaker 2: but just the top because she likes her skirt on.
Speaker 2: If it were parents have just of course with Iri
Speaker 2: just does whatever Luna does, Like, oh my god. Anyway,
Speaker 2: so I call him. I'm in the car with my
Speaker 2: mom and I call him on speakerphone and he says
Speaker 2: a few things that I know my mom liked. First
Speaker 2: number one, please please, I didn't hear this. I was
Speaker 2: telling him was I'm going to get my nails done,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's like, what color you gonna do?
Speaker 2: And I was like this basic nude and he's like,
Speaker 2: it's not basic, baby, it's classic excession thing a mom
Speaker 2: and be like she was like I saw her like
Speaker 2: start nodding her head like yes, bitch, yes classic friend
Speaker 2: Chip never on too basic classic And then he was
Speaker 2: talking about him. He was like, yeah, he went shopping
Speaker 2: and I don't know, he was just talking about shit whatever.
Speaker 2: So we hang up the phone. My mom's like, he
Speaker 2: is his voice is not that bad. Okay, you're being
Speaker 2: so hard. Why are you so hard on everyone? You're
Speaker 2: never gonna find someone to do this hard on someone.
Speaker 2: She's like, what's what's the hold up? Just go to
Speaker 2: the concert. And I was like what she's like, but
Speaker 2: it's fine. I would have been like snow there. So
Speaker 2: she gave me the green line and I was like,
Speaker 2: we canna watch my baby? Okay. Well I can't say no,
Speaker 2: so I said okay. So I called him that next
Speaker 2: day and I was like, I'm going I'll stay. I'll
Speaker 2: stay an extra day. And I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe I am being too hard on him, Like let
Speaker 2: me just like just stop, just just stop thinking, stop feeling,
Speaker 2: stop overthinking, and just go with it. So that's what
Speaker 2: I do. So he books his ticket and we're planning,
Speaker 2: sends his adds adds the plans to the calendar. We're
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. Oh. He also buys me a
Speaker 2: birthday present. He bought me a whip, which you did
Speaker 2: not tell me this. We were going to keep this
Speaker 2: a secret. Yeah, why no, it wasn't. I wasn't. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he bought me a whip. Wait wait, wait, hold up,
Speaker 2: hold the fuck up? A whip as an yep, my
Speaker 2: flog like the one like King has with multiple Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: he sent it to your house. Well, I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's gonna send it anymore.
Speaker 1: But oh oh, but he said he a dude like
Speaker 1: this one from online.
Speaker 2: Well he was like, I bought it. I'm give me
Speaker 2: your address. So I sent him the office address. Thank god.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 1: Also, if you're listening, we can take that flow and
Speaker 1: we'll take those tickets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know where to send them? Yeah, send them, bitch. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's finish his story. We're getting off, but I'm kidding. Okay,
Speaker 2: So whatever. Just really sweet though, things like that, like
Speaker 2: remembering my birthday, buying me something apparently, you know, for
Speaker 2: my birthday, and like driving to Atland. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm being too hard. Let me just go with it
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 1: Flag for you or for him for me to use
Speaker 1: on him, to use on him, to use on me
Speaker 1: for him to use.
Speaker 2: He knows I'm gonna sub. Hey. Okay, So anyway, so yesterday,
Speaker 2: this is his birthday, but I forgot, so I call him.
Speaker 2: I'm talking, I'm asking him about his plans to New York,
Speaker 2: like what time he's landing. He changed his flight because
Speaker 2: originally was gonna leave really early, and then I was like,
Speaker 2: you don't have to rush to leave. And then I
Speaker 2: even was like, you can stay at my hotel, which
Speaker 2: you know, like I was iffy about, but I was
Speaker 2: trying to be open because I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: let me just stuff. Then the universe said, bitch, fuck you.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know. You offered a lot,
Speaker 2: saved your hotel. I did, okay, but then a good night.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was one night. Literally, I just think all
Speaker 2: the details, bitch. Sorry, Well, we got to save them
Speaker 2: for everyone else, a secret whip to save them for
Speaker 2: everyone else listening. So then I'm calling, I'm on the phone,
Speaker 2: I'm at the office, and I'm telling I'm like, okay, bye,
Speaker 2: like I haven't said a happy birthday because I didn't.
Speaker 2: I realized I forgot, which tells you a lot as well.
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, well, I got to go
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh you aren't you forgetting something? And
Speaker 2: I was like uh And I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: it's your birthday. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Fuck
Speaker 2: happy birthday. Oh my god. I felt so bad. So
Speaker 2: we hung up the phone and this girl that works
Speaker 2: with us at you know, at the office, she's like,
Speaker 2: you forgot his birthday. She's like, you have to send
Speaker 2: him something because I told him about him the night
Speaker 2: the day before and she and I showed her his
Speaker 2: picture and she was like, he's the best. What is
Speaker 2: wrong with you? Like she was all teen hitm look
Speaker 2: at God. And she was like, we have to send
Speaker 2: him cupcakes. I was like, I don't know his a
Speaker 2: dress and she was like, oh, I can find that,
Speaker 2: don't worry. And I was like, well, actually she is
Speaker 2: like she's crazy. I love her so fucking much. Thank
Speaker 2: God for her. Actually, but I was like, no, I
Speaker 2: know his one of his friend's Instagram. So we all
Speaker 2: like DM him and tell him. I want to like
Speaker 2: send him something. I couldn't find it. I could not
Speaker 2: find this motherfucker's DM. So she's still like steady googling him.
Speaker 2: She's like, doesn't he know what his homeows. I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's like homeowner records, Charlotte. But then in the process
Speaker 2: of in the process of just searching his name, which
Speaker 2: by the way, I have done, but I did. I
Speaker 2: guess I didn't look very hard, She's like, oh, he
Speaker 2: has an engagement website, and so she clicks on it
Speaker 2: and it's him and baby mama engagement photos and and
Speaker 2: I'd never seen her before. I don't even know her name, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I asked. I told her. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: well he was engaged. I knew that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they probably took engagement photos. That didn't really shock me.
Speaker 2: I was more intrigued, like, oh, what does she look like?
Speaker 2: You know, bitches, you know we're so basic and shit,
Speaker 2: what does she look like? So basic? And I was
Speaker 2: She's like, you never listened her Instagram. I was like,
Speaker 2: I've never seen her before. I don't even know what
Speaker 2: her name is. And I was like, okay, well, let's
Speaker 2: just get the address I want to send the fucking cupcakes.
Speaker 2: So she pushes that aside. She fucking finds his address, bitch,
Speaker 2: because it's just crazy. It's just crazy. She finds his address.
Speaker 2: I know it's the right one because of this photo
Speaker 2: he sent me up. I know, I saw like a stalk.
Speaker 2: Well what was the photo? He like took a video
Speaker 2: outside of his house because it was raining on Halloween.
Speaker 2: Who oh, and it was like a cul de.
Speaker 1: Sac and she was from how he fris Okay, you
Speaker 1: knew it was the street reversed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he was like, it's raining outside, and
Speaker 2: so this is Halloween, which, by the way, Halloween he
Speaker 2: told me him and his son addressing up as Martin characters,
Speaker 2: and that he went to a party and there were
Speaker 2: all these moms hitting on him because he's a single dad,
Speaker 2: and you know, they were like trying to be stepmama.
Speaker 2: And this is the whole thing he told me. So anyway,
Speaker 2: just keep that in mind, guys, remember that story. So
Speaker 2: we finally Dy, we call the cupcake place, we tell
Speaker 2: them to send it. I know he's out of town,
Speaker 2: but he's going to be back that night. So I
Speaker 2: asked that they they'll send it to the latest driver.
Speaker 2: And I write a note and I write, I bet
Speaker 2: you thought, I bet you thought I forgot can't wait
Speaker 2: to see you in New York, Love Erica. So then
Speaker 2: we should we get those We get that handled pay
Speaker 2: for that. So then so then she's like, okay, wait,
Speaker 2: so let's go back to the girl because I love
Speaker 2: this bitch. And she's like, who is this bitch? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know the baby mama. She's like,
Speaker 2: let's give her instagram.
Speaker 1: I love us women. Okay, you gotta give us a minute, right,
Speaker 1: one second? Five minutes?
Speaker 2: Close the door, and I want to literally, we're the bitch.
Speaker 2: I wonder if I could control it, for she's gonna
Speaker 2: be dirty, looks through the glass. I'm scared trying to
Speaker 2: control the vote anyway, Okay, so go So we look
Speaker 2: up her Instagram and she pulls it up and it
Speaker 2: says it's her, she's a beautiful girl, and it says
Speaker 2: like she lives in North Carolina and she's a fashion blogger.
Speaker 2: And I'm like she's like, no, she lives in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, she lives in London. So she's clicking pictures.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh maybe that's no, that's my New York.
Speaker 2: Oh that's not London. And then I'm like, wait, what
Speaker 2: do you I don't see any London. And then I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait is that him? And it's a picture of them
Speaker 2: as a family, but not like a co parenting picture,
Speaker 2: like I'm fucking married picture, and I just keep digging. No.
Speaker 2: Then she goes, okay, well, oh wait, let's click her blog.
Speaker 2: So let me click her blog and it says they're
Speaker 2: like one of the posts is the Bahamas and that's
Speaker 2: where he told me they did the exchange and it
Speaker 2: was this year. So I click on the fucking blog, bitch.
Speaker 2: For first of all, it's broken up by day. So
Speaker 2: day one, Day one, me and my husband Keishan went
Speaker 2: on a boat. Today there's a picture of the I'm
Speaker 2: on a boat like cheers in Champagne and he's laughing.
Speaker 2: She's fucking looking fucking fashionable and they look like a
Speaker 2: fucking Instagram ad and I'm and then day two my
Speaker 2: my my Insta husband because he guess he takes all
Speaker 2: of her pictures. She literally my Insta husband, like my
Speaker 2: Insta Bay husband, some ship like that. Because you know,
Speaker 2: I clicked the blog.
Speaker 1: I looked through some of those pictures, girl, but I
Speaker 1: did not read.
Speaker 2: I read that was that was in the buttons, like
Speaker 2: you know, he pressed the buttons and you can see
Speaker 2: like video, Oh there's videos up there Bahama trip. I
Speaker 2: would have to look at that again. Wait, bitch, what
Speaker 2: were they doing like on vacation. They're just on vacation together.
Speaker 2: They're on a trip together. Was a child there? I
Speaker 2: didn't even see any pictures of the kid. I think
Speaker 2: maybe he said it was a family vacation. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I used zoned out. All I just
Speaker 2: saw was that. Then I saw Halloween photo and it
Speaker 2: was not just him as Martin and his son as
Speaker 2: a Martin character. She was fucking genu bitch, she was Gina.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you just left out Gina. You
Speaker 2: just well the fact that he said me and my
Speaker 2: son are Martin. I knew that that was bizarre. You
Speaker 2: can't have Martin without Gina. You're so right, right like
Speaker 2: the fact that you guys.
Speaker 1: Were just Martin, Like nah, yeah, like there has to
Speaker 1: be a Gina.
Speaker 2: And who who was this?
Speaker 1: I thought he said the son of Spider Man. He
Speaker 1: was so he was just Martin. He doesn't even have
Speaker 1: that much character to be Martin by himself on Halloween.
Speaker 1: And I hope you hears.
Speaker 2: A character on Martin too. I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. All I know is the nigga's married.
Speaker 2: He's been married for five years, the entire time, happily married,
Speaker 2: with his child, living in his home, with his wife,
Speaker 2: who lives in North Carolina, who does not fucking live
Speaker 2: in London, who never took her kid away from him,
Speaker 2: who never had an abortion, who never got pregnant by
Speaker 2: a soccer player, And it's probably a wonderful mother and
Speaker 2: a great fucking wife for being with the fucking sociopath.
Speaker 2: You didn't even put the rest of it on there.
Speaker 1: What that he FaceTime with you and showed like said, like,
Speaker 1: oh right, yeah, he's this.
Speaker 2: Nick was facetiming me while he was hanging out with
Speaker 2: his son, Like I saw I interacted with his son
Speaker 2: on FaceTime, and like, I just can't believe someone would
Speaker 2: do that. I would never ever ever do that, even
Speaker 2: as a single person I'm conscious of, Like even who
Speaker 2: I allow her to see or hear me talk to
Speaker 2: the fact that you would allow me to engage and
Speaker 2: you're married in your home in the like, it's just
Speaker 2: mind fucking blowing that he painted this entire picture of
Speaker 2: himself being the single father too, like preyed upon my
Speaker 2: singleness in a way. Knew that that was a common ground, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a common ground or like something for empathy, for empathy,
Speaker 2: which I'm like, I don't want your fucking empathy or
Speaker 2: for empathy for him. But I'm just saying, but that's
Speaker 2: how he viewed singleness, right, Like it's so it's so terrible.
Speaker 2: I'm it's so hard. I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: It's just like I was literally on the like I
Speaker 2: fell to the floor. I was like, shut the f.
Speaker 2: I was laughing because I was like, this can't be happening.
Speaker 1: You're kidding and to sink You're about to go spend
Speaker 1: another night with this man.
Speaker 2: He's changed your flights, he's flying, he's changing his flight
Speaker 2: from LA to go back home to LA to go
Speaker 2: see me in New York for one night.
Speaker 1: A snow a Legra ticket. Nigga, I still want you
Speaker 1: to form I love snow Legra. You know what's the most.
Speaker 2: Jaw dropping thing to me is it's just one thing
Speaker 2: to lie.
Speaker 1: You wanna be sneaky, you wanna get some pussy, you
Speaker 1: want to have maybe a sidelife. Maybe your life is
Speaker 1: that boring, not maybe obviously clearly, but for you to
Speaker 1: just pull out of the clear blue black asshole of
Speaker 1: your asshole lies, blatant phantom see from a fantasy book
Speaker 1: of your motherfucking psycho.
Speaker 2: Mind, and then like, you know what really makes a
Speaker 2: couple lies that I don't even ask you to make
Speaker 2: Like I've had such a hard day, you have you have? You? Like?
Speaker 2: What is this? Like? Literally like he told me he's
Speaker 2: an actor one night he told me, Like, I was like,
Speaker 2: how is he doing? He's like, thanks for asking. No
Speaker 2: one ever asks me, do you know how he's doing?
Speaker 2: I'm like, they don't. She barely FaceTime? Yeah, He's like
Speaker 2: I barely even see her. She I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to her in like a week or two.
Speaker 2: And even told me like when he oh goday, So
Speaker 2: he told me that, Like I was like, how is
Speaker 2: he doing adjusting to being back with you? And he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, he still asks for her. Still he still
Speaker 2: asks for his mom at night. I'm like, thinking back
Speaker 2: on these moments, how sick you have to be to
Speaker 2: usual child as a bait for a bitch like I
Speaker 2: have bait for pussy, as a bait for attention, as
Speaker 2: a bait for whatever imaginary relationship or fucking idea you've
Speaker 2: had in your head about what this or we could
Speaker 2: be because I know you thought about it. I know
Speaker 2: he envisioned what our shit would be, Like how fun
Speaker 2: I felt, how exciting I felt to him, right, he
Speaker 2: was so excited was the idea of me. Right, And
Speaker 2: that's really sad. It's it's just.
Speaker 1: And but the thing is it's had to go to
Speaker 1: those lengths to just get a little piece of it.
Speaker 2: And I and I really and like for me, like
Speaker 2: my gut told me, no, I went against it, but
Speaker 2: not only that, like I was, I was really like
Speaker 2: I cared about him because you're human. Yeah, like maybe
Speaker 2: it's not like a way of like I even told myself,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I don't know about what
Speaker 2: we have here romantically, but like the fact that this
Speaker 2: man is taking care of his son on his own,
Speaker 2: like that's admirable. Like I'm proud to have someone even
Speaker 2: like listening to us that, Like you know, it's taking
Speaker 2: in what we say as mothers and cares like that.
Speaker 2: I felt that you with that, Yeah, wow, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know, I just I'm happy I'm reaching the single
Speaker 2: dads too. But it's just so crazy how I don't
Speaker 2: know what he thought in his head, what how this
Speaker 2: was going to turn out? But anyway, So after I
Speaker 2: found out all this shit, right, oh okay, let's get
Speaker 2: back onto the store. So after I found out all
Speaker 2: this shit, I was like, what the fuck? And I
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do except call the cupcake place
Speaker 2: and make sure they expedited the cupcakes immediately to his
Speaker 2: home because I wanted to make sure they got there
Speaker 2: before he did. And you know, part of me was like,
Speaker 2: that's a bitch move. But then I said, you know what, Erica,
Speaker 2: you're always so fucking nice. No, someone needs to know,
Speaker 2: and that's someone. It's probably his wife, because I'm worried
Speaker 2: for her. I am. I am her because this person,
Speaker 2: this isn't the first time he's done that, and he
Speaker 2: has no concept of real ill a fake Instagram account
Speaker 2: where I'm sure he's reaching out to multiple women he follows.
Speaker 2: I saw when I looked at his following list on there,
Speaker 2: because one day I was like, he's not following anyone
Speaker 2: or followed by anyone, but he's following like sixty something
Speaker 2: people and they're all like a lot of more podcasts.
Speaker 2: They're all men's podcast h yep, and other things. Other
Speaker 2: male things like that he wants to keep up with
Speaker 2: like sports things, but a lot of women. And I
Speaker 2: was like, hmm, Now, looking back, it all makes sense.
Speaker 2: He has a secret Instagram account that his wife doesn't
Speaker 2: know about because he probably has already gotten in trouble
Speaker 2: for being on Instagram doing dumb shit, doing some dumb shit.
Speaker 2: So now he has a secret account where he reaches
Speaker 2: out to people. Fuck it has Patreon where he like,
Speaker 2: that's how he lures the men in, like supporting the dream,
Speaker 2: right right, supporting the cause, supporting the dream, and he
Speaker 2: happens to be fine a little bit. I don't know
Speaker 2: about that voice, but he happens to be fine a
Speaker 2: little bit, and I feel like I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've I was so disappointed with myself.
Speaker 2: I was like, how did I not? But then I'm
Speaker 2: looking back and I'm like, no, I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2: I went by I went into this with like a
Speaker 2: pure heart, pure intentions. I didn't follow my gut. Yes,
Speaker 2: that was It challenged me because I was like, am
Speaker 2: I being shallow? I'm trying to push through this, you know,
Speaker 2: and whatever. So he texts me after I find out
Speaker 2: because he has no idea I've found out. So we
Speaker 2: had talked about Frozen earlier because we're parents and that's
Speaker 2: what we do. And I told him I fucking hate Frozen.
Speaker 2: I really just don't like that movie. I'm ready for
Speaker 2: it to be done. And I can't believe there's a
Speaker 2: whole other one coming out. Like I thought we were
Speaker 2: off the Frozen train. I reach back on it, right.
Speaker 2: So he sends me a link to some Frozen memes
Speaker 2: and writes in capital letters, just to fuck with you.
Speaker 2: So I send him a link to his wife's instagram
Speaker 2: them dressed up like Martin characters and write in caps,
Speaker 2: just to fuck with you. And I texted Mela this
Speaker 2: and I'm like, bitch, look what I said. I'm like,
Speaker 2: She's like, did he answer? What the fuck? What is
Speaker 2: he doing? Radio me the fucking silent? But I saw
Speaker 2: that he read it. Because I don't know if one
Speaker 2: of you motherfuckers that has listened to right listening to
Speaker 2: this podcast right now, if you have your messages capable
Speaker 2: of people knowing that you read them, why, I don't
Speaker 2: understand that. Do you understand you ever did that? No? No,
Speaker 2: it's great for me because I know you read it,
Speaker 2: but like, I've never understood the logic in it. I
Speaker 2: don't want you to know what the fuck I'm doing
Speaker 2: it all right, right right, I don't want you to
Speaker 2: know that I'm not responding anyway. Tell me that's a
Speaker 2: red flag. That's like a red flag for me. If
Speaker 2: you keep your messages on red, you're maybe a serial
Speaker 2: killer anyway. So he so, then nothing, he says nothing.
Speaker 2: Then I go back to my Instagram because I had
Speaker 2: sent the link of the girl's instagram to Jamila, like
Speaker 2: can you believe this shit? And the link is expired,
Speaker 2: like her instagram no longer exists. So I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: did she block me? Like? How does she know who
Speaker 2: I am? Already? What did he tell her? Like? What
Speaker 2: the fuck? So then Jamila goes on her Instagram and
Speaker 2: she's also blocked, and then Sebastian goes on his. He
Speaker 2: blocked all my friends from her instagram specifically. So I'm
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know, Like I was just in
Speaker 2: pure shock.
Speaker 1: Honestly, is this considered well, at guess this is not
Speaker 1: catfish because it's him.
Speaker 2: No, I've been having this conversation with someone today too,
Speaker 2: because it's like emotional catfishing. Can we call it something?
Speaker 2: It's not like physical catfishing. It's like mind trick cat
Speaker 2: I don't know, just fucking make a catfish, dogfish, dogs dogfish, dogfish.
Speaker 2: It's lies of the heart, your lies. So I I
Speaker 2: emailed him. I have his email because he's bought things
Speaker 2: from us, so we have I have multiple email But well,
Speaker 2: he was our og Patreon, he bought tickets to go
Speaker 2: to our show, sent us money from Vegas. Oh he
Speaker 2: was so invested. Listen. I forgot about that. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: he was so invested.
Speaker 1: Not so he was invested in us and giving us
Speaker 1: fucking branding advice because now we know because he's a
Speaker 1: fucking husband inst today. He one time he was like
Speaker 1: winning in Vegas. We're like, okay, we're going to send
Speaker 1: you fifty dollars. We need some money.
Speaker 2: We want to, like, you know, put some money on
Speaker 2: the book rush for fresh show.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, let's just gamble it, fuck it,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. So he made us like what
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, So you emailed him and said, I just said,
Speaker 2: I said, why I put the subject why And I said,
Speaker 2: why would you do this to me? Like why would
Speaker 2: you go above and beyond to just blatantly make up
Speaker 2: elaborate lies. I was like, you know my history, you
Speaker 2: know I have trust issues. You know I've been on
Speaker 2: the other side of this, Like what is wrong with you?
Speaker 2: And I was like, and the fact that you had
Speaker 2: your son in front of me, like what is actually
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And I was like, I deserve
Speaker 2: an explanation. I'm a good person. Call me right now.
Speaker 2: And he did no hered this, So he called me
Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, I don't I don't. I know.
Speaker 2: I can't apologize or I didn't apology. I can't apologize that.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna make anything better. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what to say. And I was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck you are doing. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the fuck to say either. You are a sociopath.
Speaker 2: You disgusted me, You had your son in front of me.
Speaker 2: You talked about your wife as if she was basically
Speaker 2: like a deadbeat mom. Meanwhile, she's living in your fucking home,
Speaker 2: you're married. And he was like, I just I got
Speaker 2: into deep and I didn't know how to get out
Speaker 2: I'm like, got into deep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you slam you physically yourself. No one asked you
Speaker 1: to tom over here. You made so much I was
Speaker 1: of anything. I like was like, okay, we'll see each other.
Speaker 2: We see each other. You literally made accommodations to see me. Like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is wrong with you? You are a fucking psychopath.
Speaker 2: You are a fan. She said this, She said, you're
Speaker 2: a fan, and that is the truth, like you have.
Speaker 2: I'm so scared for her, for his wife. Honest, that's
Speaker 2: scary because this, if he's capable of this, this isn't
Speaker 2: the first time he's done some fuck ass weird shit
Speaker 2: like this. Like I wonder, oh my god, this is
Speaker 2: you guys, if there's any podcasts out here listening and
Speaker 2: this sound this story sounds anything familiar, let us know,
Speaker 2: we need to make Wait, what if he's done this
Speaker 2: to other all other women that he listens to.
Speaker 1: You said he listened to a lot of women podcast
Speaker 1: So what if like he got in touch and like
Speaker 1: you said, god on Patreons supported he he ha, you know,
Speaker 1: and what if someone else has discovered this and you're like,
Speaker 1: not his first victim.
Speaker 2: I need to know the details. All I know is
Speaker 2: that shit is crazy. I are you hear I hear
Speaker 2: about things like this, but I never think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be me. And it's just I can't believe, like your
Speaker 2: whole like you're married, you're so like you're fucking married,
Speaker 2: and we're so green.
Speaker 1: I just think like even when I met him, he
Speaker 1: seemed rather normal. We sound cool, like we all like
Speaker 1: laughed and chilled. Like granted we'd both a.
Speaker 2: Level of compartmentalizing that that man can do is a
Speaker 2: scary thing and it's deep.
Speaker 1: And it's scary for us as just single women, like
Speaker 1: you could only have what someone gives you to go
Speaker 1: for us, unless you're Christina and you know how to
Speaker 1: dig deep into the googles, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you you just take something for face value and
Speaker 1: you have to believe it and then come to find
Speaker 1: out who knows who niggas are. That's that's scary, you know,
Speaker 1: fucking sex traffickings at all time, highs, kidnappers.
Speaker 2: It's just all times, it's just too weird. It's just
Speaker 2: too easy. And like this week I've just had like
Speaker 2: some weird things too, like a hinge guy messaged me
Speaker 2: and like it's just like I have people like that
Speaker 2: are like low key kind of like obsessed with my
Speaker 2: baby daddy, And then I wonder like, are they just
Speaker 2: trying to like fuck with me to say that they
Speaker 2: didn't like that's and like I'm like, is this people?
Speaker 2: I never even thought I had to think about this
Speaker 2: type of ship, Like what like people say like, oh,
Speaker 2: is that his daughter? I'm like that was my fucking daughter,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, it's just too much. It's just
Speaker 2: too much. So this week was just really stressful. I
Speaker 2: didn't honestly, when I talked to him, I got emotional
Speaker 2: because first of all, I felt triggered as fuck. I
Speaker 2: was like, god damn, like being on the other side
Speaker 2: of this, but like obviously what happened to me in
Speaker 2: my last relationship and there being another woman, you know,
Speaker 2: she knew about me, where is this I had? But
Speaker 2: she had the option to say I'm good right this
Speaker 2: y he took advantage of me and like tried to
Speaker 2: like manipulate the situation and tapping into things that you
Speaker 2: on the podcast From the podcast, yeah, that's really scary.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And it's just like it made me sad
Speaker 2: because I was like, wow, is this what men are
Speaker 2: men are so hos currently always like he's a nerdy ass. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not like something with a lot of swag. No,
Speaker 2: he wasn't like something like I need to think it
Speaker 2: was it was the player, you know, and that's why too.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, he's different, he's not like most
Speaker 2: of them, because that's the kind of thing I usually like,
Speaker 2: like I must conquer. But I just it made me
Speaker 2: feel like, is this like humanity? What I Is this
Speaker 2: all I'm going to get? And also like why is
Speaker 2: it that I keep attracting weird people like this, like narcissists,
Speaker 2: and like, I just it's like I felt betrayed.
Speaker 1: I was just like, if this is out there, if
Speaker 1: this happened to Erica, this happened right under our noses,
Speaker 1: this is creaty trust no one, it didn't.
Speaker 2: Even happen to me. I was just like, I just don't, like,
Speaker 2: I feel like my trust is totally like demolished right
Speaker 2: now for men, so much so that like even to Loombay.
Speaker 2: I called to Loombay right after this and I literally
Speaker 2: cursed him out. I was like, who are you? He's
Speaker 2: like what, I'm like, who are you? Are you? Who
Speaker 2: you say you are. He's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: She researched all the hood. I literally was like, I
Speaker 2: googled you and there's no information. Who the fuck are you?
Speaker 2: Are you who you say you are? And he's like,
Speaker 2: even if I was, if I didn't, if I was
Speaker 2: a liar, do you think i'd tell you the truth
Speaker 2: right now? And that's a good point. Actually you caught
Speaker 2: me because that guy that you're dating, the other guy.
Speaker 2: But I got emotional because I just was like, wow,
Speaker 2: like I just I don't know, I just I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be vulnerable and I'm trying not to let things
Speaker 2: like this jade me from love. I know, because you
Speaker 2: already are like, don't trust people, right, And it's just
Speaker 2: like I don't want things like this jading me from love.
Speaker 2: I want my heart to be okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, Eric can be looking at every moment the side,
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't, no, no, I do.
Speaker 2: I go off energy. I know energy, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: there's something dark about that energy. There's something you're not
Speaker 2: telling me, and I don't like that. And for him,
Speaker 2: like I felt like he my body wouldn't let me
Speaker 2: get close to him in that way. I felt he
Speaker 2: was not emotionally available for me. It, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: And that just brings it back to that whole concept
Speaker 2: of that fucking airplane. That's a hell opdah. It just
Speaker 2: brings me back to that whole idea of like thirty
Speaker 2: two for me and this next year really honing in
Speaker 2: on my instincts and not questioning it and not letting
Speaker 2: people make me feel like I look at everyone with
Speaker 2: the side eye, because no, whenever I don't look at
Speaker 2: someone with the side eye and not to not and
Speaker 2: I really don't look at everyone's side. But when I
Speaker 2: go against my gut, I know who my people are
Speaker 2: and who aren't. I think, I know, like sometimes my people,
Speaker 2: your people might not be my people, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like some people that you connect with just
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna connect with it. And I just I
Speaker 2: know what kind of energy I can work with and
Speaker 2: be around. Obviously his energy isn't for anyone. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: literally just fucking with you know what. That's the thing, Like,
Speaker 2: that's the thing that's what's scary.
Speaker 1: I think, like we're both energy people as water signs.
Speaker 2: As and he's a scorpion. But even like no, but
Speaker 2: this other he's a scorpion, and I don't ever fuck
Speaker 2: with male scorpios because male scorpios are notoriously known to
Speaker 2: be That's where that lying shit, that's where that lies.
Speaker 2: It's in the male side. I mean women lie to
Speaker 2: don't get me to twisted. Of course, people always have
Speaker 2: men to say about a scorpio, but I've always told
Speaker 2: me meant scorpio men are liars, and like this this
Speaker 2: like and I you know, like I try not to
Speaker 2: just be live my life through horoscope, but truly I
Speaker 2: don't November. Look, this was like confirmation there's a reason
Speaker 2: why I've never fucked with a scorpio except for the
Speaker 2: person I lost my virginity to virginity too, and like
Speaker 2: that was it. It just was too we both can't
Speaker 2: be dark, we both can't be moody. We like we
Speaker 2: need I need someone who balances it out. That's why
Speaker 2: someone who makes me laugh is important, because it really
Speaker 2: is like, I know I'm funny, but like I need
Speaker 2: someone that's a little like lighthearted, lighthearted, more lighthearted than
Speaker 2: I am. So but it's hard.
Speaker 1: It feels like you're like even though now you can
Speaker 1: look back and say I knew in my in my gut.
Speaker 2: I knew something wasn't resonating in my body. I think it.
Speaker 1: Feels hurtful because you feel deceived because usually you're really
Speaker 1: good at reading people, and it's like, damn, I might
Speaker 1: need to sharpen up this.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's not even that it's men, you
Speaker 2: know what. I made me feel like I don't trust
Speaker 2: myself with men. It's like time and time again, I'm like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck do I keep doing this? How? And
Speaker 2: but but I know that, like that's not true too.
Speaker 2: I know that I've done the work and that like
Speaker 2: even I have met really I've met men with really
Speaker 2: great traits and great qualities and they might not be
Speaker 2: the men for me, but I've still met, like I've
Speaker 2: had met men that have given me like hope and
Speaker 2: like oh wow, like oh I can't ask for that.
Speaker 2: It goes back to that list that we write like,
Speaker 2: oh this is actually possible. I know I can do
Speaker 2: that because I know I can't have because it's right
Speaker 2: and it was just I don't know, but I think
Speaker 2: the lesson for me was like, yeah, trusting your intuition
Speaker 2: and also probably not like fucking at your workplace, because
Speaker 2: essentially that's what it is don't fuck at your workplace
Speaker 2: for podcasting. That means don't funk the listeners. Okay, don't
Speaker 2: do that shit. I'm cool. If you're listening, I'm not
Speaker 2: fucking you. Don't fucking st no listener, no fuck rule.
Speaker 1: And today, no today, we are to hear about declaring
Speaker 1: none of that, none of that frisky in.
Speaker 2: December, I mean November fourteenth, there'll be no good mom,
Speaker 2: bad choices, listener frisky business.
Speaker 1: Unless you have on Saturday, unless you want to make up,
Speaker 1: unless there's maybe a makeup.
Speaker 2: Making UT's fine, yeah, so that okay? So then so
Speaker 2: then okay, this I'm not proud of. This is like
Speaker 2: this part of not so proud of. And I've like
Speaker 2: battled with this all day and it's stressed me out
Speaker 2: because all this should happened yesterday. Guys, I don't know
Speaker 2: when we're putting this out, but it's not far from here.
Speaker 2: And I so my friend, my best friend, Sebastian. I
Speaker 2: love him so mother fucking much, this beautiful man. He
Speaker 2: is such a ride or die for me, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know how I've been blessed with this friend. Like
Speaker 2: he's just a ride or die type of nigga. Okay
Speaker 2: he I told him the story and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: hell no. He's like this, why I don't fuck with niggas.
Speaker 2: This one niggas ain't shit. You know what you women,
Speaker 2: you just put up with so much shit and we
Speaker 2: just keep doing this bullshit. He's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's not today. He's like, you know what, you were
Speaker 2: really nice with your ex and you didn't you didn't
Speaker 2: go down that route. But you don't know this nigga
Speaker 2: shit and someone needs to know and it's his wife.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, I don't know. Wait,
Speaker 2: you need to be if you want to be convinced
Speaker 2: to do some shit. Concobaba, should I keep this niggas
Speaker 2: car hold on? Let me Sebastian that's gone said, look
Speaker 2: how many keys should I write? I'm here? Should I
Speaker 2: pop the tires?
Speaker 4: Bo?
Speaker 2: I'm at it? I brought some sugar for the gas
Speaker 2: take right now we have about gasoline. Were gonna like
Speaker 2: this shut on fire? So uh, he was like no,
Speaker 2: she she needs to know. And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm not writing this fucking letter. You know. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm blocked on everything. You know. It's He's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I looked. I looked on her blog and she has
Speaker 2: an email address, and I was like, well, the way
Speaker 2: this nigga went in her fucking Instagram, I'm sure he
Speaker 2: can block the bitch like block, I'm sure he has
Speaker 2: access to her email. I was thinking that. No, I
Speaker 2: thought that too. I think he probably got the email. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Sebastian wrote an email on his own behalf as my friend,
Speaker 2: breaking down the storyline, the timeline, and why her nigga
Speaker 2: is crazy and that she needs to be careful and
Speaker 2: basically it was like, I'm not saying this to ruin
Speaker 2: your marriage. I'm just saying this because I feel like
Speaker 2: you should probably know what's going on. And my friend
Speaker 2: is hurt, not really hurt, not really hurt, but like
Speaker 2: you need to know pauls and know. I was like
Speaker 2: conflicted about it because you know, my ex's mistress messaged
Speaker 2: me and it was really hurtful. She also is vindictive
Speaker 2: and had an agenda. Yeah, she was really hurtful. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I'm glad it happened.
Speaker 2: It had to happen like it had to, and I'm
Speaker 2: a better woman for it. And I'm not here to
Speaker 2: have this woman make a choice about her life. Whatever
Speaker 2: she might very well stay with the man. God bless
Speaker 2: you if you do, because you go need a girl.
Speaker 2: But I feel like she should know. But I do
Speaker 2: feel like I should have written that letter. I just
Speaker 2: last night was just too overwhelmed. He wanted to do it.
Speaker 2: I didn't give a fuck. He was over there typing,
Speaker 2: not at my like he was on FaceTime, like.
Speaker 1: He should have put it from you as you. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard the letter, So can we hear the letter?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh God, here it is, Hello Blank.
Speaker 2: My name is Sebastian. I hate to be the bearer
Speaker 2: of bad news, but unfortunately it seems that I have
Speaker 2: no choice but too, because the person that should be
Speaker 2: telling this news is completely blocked from reaching you. But
Speaker 2: I have my ways. I can know, but I have
Speaker 2: my way. In August, my best friend Erica told me
Speaker 2: about this guy. I'm always in support of her everything
Speaker 2: because she is a great woman, a great friend, and
Speaker 2: absolute great single mother. So as she's telling me about
Speaker 2: this new single man, I'm getting to know him through her.
Speaker 2: I continue to get an idea of who this man is.
Speaker 2: And one of my first questions about him, of course,
Speaker 2: was is he married? He seemed like too good of
Speaker 2: a man to be single. She then explained that he
Speaker 2: has a and an ex assuming that is you. As
Speaker 2: time goes on, he starts to feel comfortable informing Erica
Speaker 2: about how you left for a soccer player and got
Speaker 2: pregnant but had a miscarriage. So but it had a
Speaker 2: miscarriage or something. So of course, her being a single parent,
Speaker 2: she felt for his She felt for his story, and
Speaker 2: they continue to talk. As some more time goes by,
Speaker 2: he then tells Erica that you have his son, and
Speaker 2: that he spends six months with you and spends six
Speaker 2: and spends the other six with him, and that he
Speaker 2: is he is headed if I'm not mistaken, to the
Speaker 2: Bahamas to do the exchange with the child. So while
Speaker 2: this is all going on, FaceTime calls have been happening.
Speaker 2: I Sebastian spoke to him at least twice. Pictures were
Speaker 2: sent from what my best friend Erica told me, he
Speaker 2: even face timed her with your son on the phone
Speaker 2: and had him say hello to her. Remember, she's going
Speaker 2: about this as if he is a confirmed single man.
Speaker 2: No confirmed, bitious get your confirmations don't just take single.
Speaker 2: You need to get a confirmation certified. Let a confirmed
Speaker 2: single man with no woman on his end. Oh my god, this,
Speaker 2: this run on sentence is giving me anxiety. Single man
Speaker 2: with no woman on his end. Fast forward. Sometime they
Speaker 2: find things in common such as music, the single parent life,
Speaker 2: and other things as well. He calls her on a
Speaker 2: daily and describes his day to her, sends even more pictures,
Speaker 2: and eventually, one night he felt he was a bit
Speaker 2: lonely and started to do this sexting thing. Why did
Speaker 2: I let him send this ship? Oh god, you're in
Speaker 2: the same fucking go Oh my god. As pictures were
Speaker 2: being sent, I'm guessing the idea of a meetup would
Speaker 2: be super fun and cool, not super fun and cool.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So moving to her. So moving to
Speaker 2: her arriving in Atlanta. This is oh my god. The
Speaker 2: way this is written is like like how people talk.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Okay. So moving to her arriving to Atlanta
Speaker 2: for work. But put a little time aside. Wait, I
Speaker 2: don't know, put some time aside for single? Single? They
Speaker 2: met up and I will spare the details, but I
Speaker 2: can't keep the facts away. But they did have sex.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this She had no idea he was
Speaker 2: in any type of relationship. So fast forward to today.
Speaker 2: She was reminded that it was his birthday. She sent
Speaker 2: a nice little message to him and then thought, hmm,
Speaker 2: let me go ahead and send a little gift to him.
Speaker 2: So in search of an address to surprise him with
Speaker 2: a gift, she comes across something that mentions him being
Speaker 2: engaged about five years ago. So she's like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: heard about this, but he's single, with the burning curiosity
Speaker 2: of what you look like? Burning? Wait? Did he put burning?
Speaker 2: I hate him? Do not do not read this? Amok
Speaker 2: he did, but when he read it, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just sounded like how we talk. So it's different burning,
Speaker 2: oh God, with the burning curiosity of what you look
Speaker 2: like and an idea of who he was with prior Wait,
Speaker 2: who he was with prior to wait, what you look like?
Speaker 2: And the idea of who he was with prior to
Speaker 2: her Erica, she did a bit more digging. Come to
Speaker 2: find she learns that single is a married man and
Speaker 2: from your perspective, he's a great husband. Father. You guys
Speaker 2: just went on a trip together. I'm not telling you
Speaker 2: this to break your family up. But I'm telling you
Speaker 2: this so you don't suppress. Oh my god, So you
Speaker 2: don't so you don't surprise, get hurt with surprise, get
Speaker 2: hurt when you find out ten women down the line
Speaker 2: from now. I wish you luck, and if you have
Speaker 2: any further questions, feel free please feel free to contact
Speaker 2: me via email. Stay strong, and I'm sorry about this.
Speaker 2: Not in a dick in their bed? Oh my? Did
Speaker 2: he cross out your face? He said? You can only
Speaker 2: see her shoulder? What is the Oh is that music? Does?
Speaker 2: He sent me a snow a Legra song. God, well,
Speaker 2: I want you around? Oh my god. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: in fake fantasy, sending me pictures of his son in
Speaker 2: their living room playing just crazy shit. Our flight information,
Speaker 2: he paid for your ticket to get extended. No, his
Speaker 2: his flight information.
Speaker 1: And Sebastian insists and proceeded to attach all of the receipts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, I should have read that through. I
Speaker 2: just let him do it because I didn't want to
Speaker 2: be I just was like.
Speaker 1: I don't honestly for podcast purposes. It was great, Oh god,
Speaker 1: thank you, Sebastian. Oh god, Well, you know it's interesting
Speaker 1: because initially you're like, should I contact her.
Speaker 2: I was like, leave him all the fuck alone, let
Speaker 2: that throw them all the way.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's crazy how my mind is like
Speaker 1: just thought that, because the truth is I wouldn't need
Speaker 1: to know that. I mean, I wish you would have
Speaker 1: went into more detail, like to the levels of storytelling,
Speaker 1: because really that's the scariest part, that fucking level, that
Speaker 1: complex level of like to the point where he was
Speaker 1: believing his lies when he was consuming that bullshit that
Speaker 1: he imagined up in his imaginary weird world.
Speaker 2: He believed it when he was with you.
Speaker 1: He was that single, poor single dad living this fun life,
Speaker 1: and she needs to know she's living with a goddamn sociopath.
Speaker 2: Run sis run oh for real. Like the lies, the
Speaker 2: level of lies that I never asked for, Like just
Speaker 2: calling me to make up shit, just calling me with
Speaker 2: made ups in aarrs, like hey, guess what I did today?
Speaker 2: Fake fake fake fake fake fake fake yep, okay bye,
Speaker 2: Like no one asked you to do that shit. That's
Speaker 2: the crazy shit that lets me know you are so
Speaker 2: bored and I feel so bad. He's probably I don't
Speaker 2: even want to know what kind of husband he is.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's I don't know. All I know is
Speaker 2: I dodged a bullet because God be looking out. Thank you,
Speaker 2: love you, and again like counting my blessings, counting my blessings,
Speaker 2: like honoring my intuition and the things that I feel
Speaker 2: and not letting anyone or anything deter me from that
Speaker 2: because I look sometimes look for people, look to people
Speaker 2: to validate my feelings, and then it confuses me when
Speaker 2: their validation is different than what I'm feeling. So then
Speaker 2: I start to question what I'm feeling. So I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that anymore. I can't do it anymore. Like this,
Speaker 2: this is the last straw for real, Like mm hm nope.
Speaker 2: So I'm just glad that I feel like I dodged
Speaker 2: that bullet. And that was my week this week. Alright,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pose a question. Yes, that's a crazy week.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was affected by that week.
Speaker 1: When you just sent me that information, I was I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a rap.
Speaker 2: For okay.
Speaker 1: So I have a friend. I've known him for a
Speaker 1: lot of years and he has two kids.
Speaker 2: He is a single dad. I know this. I've known him.
Speaker 2: Oh I met him at a B two que concert
Speaker 2: like a long time ago. You would be two que jesus,
Speaker 2: I love you, kay, And we've had this long standing
Speaker 2: like really, I haven't even probably seen this maga five
Speaker 2: times in our whole eighteen year relationship. So anyway, recently
Speaker 2: got back with this baby mom. They moved in together.
Speaker 1: But he always like he always messages me, and you know,
Speaker 1: we keep up with each other. But like recently we
Speaker 1: met up for drinks and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: how's life living back with your baby mom?
Speaker 2: How's that working out? And he's like it's good, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Like but you know, she's not really like sexual,
Speaker 1: She's not that sexual.
Speaker 2: Anyway. All this to say, I would rather a man
Speaker 2: let me know who you are, like he posts her
Speaker 2: like I think I know he loves her or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like like giving a bitch the option, like if for all,
Speaker 1: you know, if you were like a weak minded woman,
Speaker 1: not a weak minded woman, if you really liked him,
Speaker 1: you could have fallen in love Loki, you could have
Speaker 1: been very engaged in that and really.
Speaker 2: Been emotionally like a known and like known he was married.
Speaker 1: I mean no, like, oh, like what if you were
Speaker 1: heartbroken over this shit?
Speaker 2: Right? I would much rather someone give me.
Speaker 1: The option to be like da da da da d
Speaker 1: like And I know like because option.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, I'm married, I wouldn't I.
Speaker 1: Respect men so much more. We're going keep it real
Speaker 1: like I'm married, I'm not happy. I respect my wife.
Speaker 1: I am happy if you are, like.
Speaker 2: You respect your wife, but you're cheating on her. I
Speaker 2: understand like.
Speaker 1: People loving someone and maybe not being just sexually satisfied.
Speaker 2: I think little note telling you. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: I think the problem with that is sometimes a lot
Speaker 1: of men try to conduct emotional relationships that mislead women
Speaker 1: into believing that they're gonna leave their wives, that they
Speaker 1: don't respect or love their wives, and that their wives
Speaker 1: are not good people or girlfriends.
Speaker 2: And I think that is that's fucked up. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what happened to me. And I'm saying this.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times, even if you do put
Speaker 1: on that front, there are crazy women who are who
Speaker 1: have in their mind, I'm gonna I'm gonna have what
Speaker 1: you with that woman has, I'm gonna take that away
Speaker 1: from you for me. And I'm not saying like I
Speaker 1: go around sleeping with the people in relationships or with
Speaker 1: married men, but sometimes like when I know people even
Speaker 1: friends that I have that their wives, they have open
Speaker 1: relationships and they are allowed to have this. I'm actually
Speaker 1: always attracted to men who are very respectful of their
Speaker 1: women and speak highly of them and speak honestly about
Speaker 1: what their issues are and that they're in relationships and
Speaker 1: they don't want to leave those people and from like
Speaker 1: and some people don't you know what I mean. But it's
Speaker 1: just actual or it's just that I just feel like,
Speaker 1: give a bitch is an option, but to create a
Speaker 1: whole false I think.
Speaker 2: It's part of the excitement for them. Almost well, I
Speaker 2: think it's part of the excitement, like the fantasy, like
Speaker 2: the forbiddenness of it all, Like it's just all of it.
Speaker 2: I mean even I have a friend right now, a
Speaker 2: former bay that's sleeping with a married woman and he
Speaker 2: was telling me about it and he told me today.
Speaker 2: I asked him today, said are you in love with her?
Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, I think I am. And I said,
Speaker 2: do you think it's because it's like forbidden and he
Speaker 2: said probably a little bit. That's trembling lip bee. And
Speaker 2: we all know he's a fucking narcissist, But I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like that missed that, like that he's like it's always
Speaker 2: taking out. He's sneaking out to like Chicago to go
Speaker 2: fuck this married woman and it's exciting and it's exhilarating.
Speaker 2: And it's like same with this guy, Like he's sneaking
Speaker 2: out to La to come hang out with me, Like
Speaker 2: he's he likes that. That that part of it, that's
Speaker 2: part of the whole story. He's telling himself that it's
Speaker 2: this fantasy, but he's away. I left my wife for her,
Speaker 2: and like we raised our own kids together. But it's
Speaker 2: never really that, like no, never would be now when
Speaker 2: it's I bet all day yesterday, all he kept thinking
Speaker 2: about was losing his family and oh my god, oh
Speaker 2: my god, like I love her, I love her? Fuck
Speaker 2: fuck fun? What have I What have I done? What
Speaker 2: have I done? My son? Oh my god, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: lose everything. And it's like why does it have.
Speaker 1: To take a fucking sociopath. And he didn't think any
Speaker 1: of that at all. Oh my god, he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, she's crazy. That guy is crazy and
Speaker 1: her page.
Speaker 2: I should have reread that email. It sounds like a ramble,
Speaker 2: does it sounds crazy? Just sounds like a like a
Speaker 2: like a second sounds like one of those African emails
Speaker 2: you get. I need I need one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Now here's my fucking cash upp If you need any
Speaker 2: more any more questions, call me. If you have anywhere questions,
Speaker 2: call Larry Parker. Here's my cat chat. You're welcome. It's
Speaker 2: this spam.
Speaker 1: No, you've went in with details and proof. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, my last brand makes me sound like a
Speaker 1: homewrecking bitch.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, if you don't want to take
Speaker 2: someone's husband and they're just physically stepping out for physical
Speaker 2: I would much rather my husband be that guy than
Speaker 2: this fucking psychopath. Oh absolutely, absolutely, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Like, if you want to fuck a little whatever,
Speaker 1: you need some outside excitement, keep it real about who
Speaker 1: the fuck I am and how you feel, how we
Speaker 1: feel about it. Like, you know what I'm saying, at
Speaker 1: least give me that much respect. And I am your wife.
Speaker 1: You did get down on one knee and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to marry that man.
Speaker 2: Will do for some pussy. Even be careful in picking
Speaker 2: your side. Hose you nigga.
Speaker 1: You pick a fucking psycho bitch that thinks she's gonna
Speaker 1: take my place or pick a bitch.
Speaker 2: She was like, I'm not thinking about you, like let's
Speaker 2: do this, and you know I don't. I know you
Speaker 2: have a relationship and I'm cool with that, right And
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to spend time with you and get
Speaker 2: things for you and conquer you.
Speaker 1: Get a respectful mistress, nigga, one of some sense, not
Speaker 1: one with a podcast.
Speaker 2: It's gonna talk about you later. I'm gonna talk about you.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be live on the internet forever. Oh shit,
Speaker 2: Oh it's my it's my audio diary, guys. So here
Speaker 2: it is lessons and love, lessons and love and research deep,
Speaker 2: Google deep and hard. You know what. Google Absolutely, I'm
Speaker 2: encouraging everyone now if you've just gotten to a relationship,
Speaker 2: google that, nigga. Not just no, and for real, don't
Speaker 2: feel bad about it. Don't think it's weird. Because we
Speaker 2: live in a weird world and sex trafficking is at
Speaker 2: all time high. We live in a weird world. Guys,
Speaker 2: Google that shit, because if only I googled a little harder,
Speaker 2: I could have I could have found this out day one.
Speaker 2: Low key, well would you even know?
Speaker 1: In those Well, I mean, I'm happily we just got
Speaker 1: a fucking school on googling finding the house proceeeds.
Speaker 2: Find apparently you own a house you're waits her name
Speaker 2: on it too, Yes, okay, and that's how she found
Speaker 2: her name. No, I found her name on the engagement Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: it's not even engaging website. It's her blog. And that's
Speaker 2: where I found all the other pictures of them on
Speaker 2: vacations blogging being a family blog.
Speaker 1: By the way, that made me really giggle. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: he took these pictures. He's one of those fucking Facebook boyfriends.
Speaker 1: He's an instant boyfriend. Not only are you just married
Speaker 1: and obviously bored to death, but you pretend to be
Speaker 1: involved by taking blog photos.
Speaker 2: It's so strange.
Speaker 1: He's living a double fucking life and that's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think I'm gonna just I think I
Speaker 2: need to take a break. I mean, not a break.
Speaker 2: I'm not even really dating, but like I'm taking a break.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm taking stepping back, like I No, No,
Speaker 2: any of the guys, any of our guys that listen
Speaker 2: that might think about sliding in the DMS just don't know. Actually,
Speaker 2: you could still just send the dick pics, but don't
Speaker 2: think anything's happening. We'll take the pics. Then we'll take
Speaker 2: the pics. But that's it. That's it. I'm scared. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wish him well. I hope that
Speaker 2: he oh and that he can go to therapy and
Speaker 2: work through his freaking issues because he clearly has a lot.
Speaker 2: There's something there. I feel like it's in childhood. You
Speaker 2: forgot to stop telling stories. He does have some childhood shit,
Speaker 2: some traumas that he shared with me. If they're true
Speaker 2: or not, I don't know, but whatever they are, I
Speaker 2: hope that he finds some sort of peace.
Speaker 1: And clarity because and in all reality, for real, ladies,
Speaker 1: because now that I'm thinking about it, I have another
Speaker 1: friend who had a situation, not to this extreme, but
Speaker 1: kind of just that he wasn't married. And the level
Speaker 1: of comfortable lying natural lying to the point where the
Speaker 1: individuals are actually believing the lies is something that stems
Speaker 1: from childhood trauma. A lot of times, if a child
Speaker 1: has experienced really serious trauma to check out, they can
Speaker 1: create these faults like these, like alter lives, because whatever
Speaker 1: they're going through is too much for a child to experience.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it's carried on into adulthood to a place
Speaker 1: where it's they believe it's so hard themselves that delivering
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel or seem like a lie to them,
Speaker 1: and so it won't feel like a lie to you,
Speaker 1: and then they can dive deep into it and it's.
Speaker 2: Really it's called a sociopath. But the point is is
Speaker 2: like these people are out there and they come in
Speaker 2: girlfriends too, you know. So that's why that fucking googleshit
Speaker 2: is super super important, because you gotta be researching and
Speaker 2: you gotta like, you know, sometimes you're like, oh, maybe
Speaker 2: he didn't say that, Like oh, like, oh, it must
Speaker 2: be true, not nigga. You need confirmation. If a nigga
Speaker 2: says he doesn't have a confirm, he needs to be
Speaker 2: confirmed single. If he confirmed confirmed, he says he doesn't
Speaker 2: have Instagram. I mean, I'm not saying that everyone has Instagram,
Speaker 2: because they don't. But just make sure check that phone
Speaker 2: and check out them. Just google that name because if
Speaker 2: I had just scrolled out a few more. But you know,
Speaker 2: everything happens how it happens, I believe, you know, we're
Speaker 2: approaching the end of the year, we're cleaning up house,
Speaker 2: getting rid of everything that we don't need to bring
Speaker 2: with us into the next year. And I feel like
Speaker 2: I feel like I am I'm coming to a closing
Speaker 2: of what I've learned and then last three hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty five days about myself and in conclusion and what
Speaker 2: I what I what I need, and also in my
Speaker 2: single in my journey being single, you know, like it's
Speaker 2: really been a journey. It really has, and I'm actually
Speaker 2: enjoying it. It's kind of crazy and sad and scary
Speaker 2: and like I want I cry a lot, but then
Speaker 2: also like there's moments Where'm like, oh God, thank God
Speaker 2: I'm single. It's like I'm enjoying the journey. And if
Speaker 2: I don't even single, podcasting, all the things that can happen,
Speaker 2: you know, So I don't know, I just who I
Speaker 2: feel like, did I tell? Did I tell everybody that
Speaker 2: I had get it out? What the fuck are you
Speaker 2: trying to say? I would just like to say that
Speaker 2: I know we're saying people are crazy and we shouldn't
Speaker 2: sleep with listeners, but I did sleep with listener one time,
Speaker 2: and I knew he was married and they're an open
Speaker 2: marriage and it was open and he's not crazy. He's
Speaker 2: just regular. It was fine. And even though he said
Speaker 2: she didn't ask, she didn't tell her. Wait, she asked,
Speaker 2: he said, I said, did you tell her? He said, no,
Speaker 2: she didn't ask. But so is that how they navigate
Speaker 2: through I'm assuming so because if you have an open
Speaker 2: mariage and I even have like a girlfriend. But I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Just want to say, for the record, like everyone's not
Speaker 1: going to be crazy, and there's a perfect example of
Speaker 1: a healthy married, a healthy honest mary.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know that they exist, but I just feel like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm saying this is this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I still feel like for me, no, we're not. We're
Speaker 1: not doing any more. No, we've we've overcome that thresholder
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping it sucking at work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's really what it comes down to. It's
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll make out. I say that now
Speaker 2: until I like meet But you're like, so, I look,
Speaker 2: so he's normal.
Speaker 1: I mean, but the truth is, we do kind of
Speaker 1: have to be careful about that type of ship because
Speaker 1: people like can be like thinking they really know every
Speaker 1: single detail about you, And I know we tell a
Speaker 1: lot of details about us, but not everything you know,
Speaker 1: there's still things that you don't know, right, and this
Speaker 1: is just.
Speaker 2: A very certain first level of who we are, you know.
Speaker 2: It's well, no, I think it's a deep level of
Speaker 2: who we are for sure, but I do there are
Speaker 2: things that you don't know. There are things that I
Speaker 2: don't share. There's only so much you can grasp over.
Speaker 5: A microphone right right, and without really without touching me,
Speaker 5: feeling me and feeling our energies together and like knowing
Speaker 5: how I react to his situations and things.
Speaker 2: Like really humanizing because we have a child, I have
Speaker 2: a life, you know, and it's like it's just it's
Speaker 2: just crazy. It's crazy sometimes. But I'm sorry that happened
Speaker 2: to you. That's okay, And I'm sorry for all the
Speaker 2: single women out there that have to do. I know
Speaker 2: I'm not the only one. I'm sure so many women
Speaker 2: right now are listening. We're saying, I a nigked lie
Speaker 2: to me is that he was And I don't know,
Speaker 2: we just that.
Speaker 1: Was whate our our whatever, our listeners just just told
Speaker 1: us that basic buddy, Oh yeah, and the.
Speaker 2: Basic same thing. But it was like two years right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that went wedding ring shopping. Yeah, and she'd been to
Speaker 2: his house or a year and she'd been to his house.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's even worse. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And speaking of basic basic, Betty, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we mentioned this before. We forgot to tell you. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we need to look that up when
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. King Noir offered on the house
Speaker 1: because he heard your story.
Speaker 2: And King Noir, if you don't know who King Noir is,
Speaker 2: he's uh, the King of King. He's a porn star
Speaker 2: and the king of King and a beautiful dom and
Speaker 2: he's fine as hell. And he has a beautiful toy
Speaker 2: that's molded up, his beautiful dick, and.
Speaker 1: You can go look for him. It's King Noir with
Speaker 1: at the end. And you should find that beautiful replica bomb.
Speaker 2: You can go buy his dick, Go buy it. What
Speaker 2: a gift, What a gift to the world he's given, honestly, Like, honestly,
Speaker 2: I've never been really into dildo's like that. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get that. I'm actually gonna get that, Like I think
Speaker 2: it's a I want to know. I want to know
Speaker 2: what King war feels like. Do I do too? I mean,
Speaker 2: who doesn't put that baby on the wall.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, never mind, okay, okay, okay, Well, the kids
Speaker 1: are here, but Basic Betty, Basic Betty, he offered on
Speaker 1: the house when they come to DC.
Speaker 2: When he comes to d C, he's gonna he got
Speaker 2: something for you because he's the King of Kink. So
Speaker 2: Tree of your Pride, hit us up. We'll connect to
Speaker 2: the dots for you, Basic Betty. Anyway, it's almost bad
Speaker 2: time and my daughter has now snuck into Did you
Speaker 2: eat your dinner? No quarter? Did you eat carroty? Did
Speaker 2: you eat all the carrots? Why? Where's you need to
Speaker 2: eat carrots? I did eat care you saw me do it?
Speaker 2: I know you need to eat like three of them. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll eat three of them, thank god, Yes, well of them.
Speaker 2: I think three is the magic number. Okay.
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