Speaker 1: Welcome to the Man Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with two illustrious gentlemen, Fred Smoot and Santana mos Guys
Speaker 1: Training camp week.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, but I don't want to be called illustrious.
Speaker 2: Some don't feel manly about it, you know.
Speaker 1: Just call me like distinguished.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, and I'm growing on now.
Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm saying, distinguished. I like that,
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that distinguishedstrious guys training camps coming up. In
Speaker 1: the week leading up the training camp, high anxiety, low anxiety?
Speaker 1: Where were we at with?
Speaker 2: I was high anxiety and I don't know why, because
Speaker 2: I was I was happy to come back.
Speaker 3: But then it was like because I think you never
Speaker 3: know when your.
Speaker 2: Last training camp, So I think, so it's like this,
Speaker 2: I really don't want to do it, but I can't
Speaker 2: wait to go out here with the fellows. I can't
Speaker 2: wait to start this new season. So it's it's a
Speaker 2: start of something new, but the reinvent the something old,
Speaker 2: like you got to do it again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, antend. How'd you feel about it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: One of the things about training camp, and I think
Speaker 5: I shared this last week. I trust me I was
Speaker 5: never prepared. I was prepared to go out there because
Speaker 5: I was in shape. I was ready to go. But
Speaker 5: I hate getting ready for like I hated just the
Speaker 5: whole round, the whole thing, like Okay, we report this
Speaker 5: day and I got to sit in these meetings and
Speaker 5: I got to go out here to practice. I wanted
Speaker 5: to just be dropped off into training camp and said, okay,
Speaker 5: when's work when we two and it's been getting ready
Speaker 5: for a preseason game.
Speaker 4: But once I was there, I was ready to go.
Speaker 5: And I just hated the whole wind up part of
Speaker 5: because I just felt like you get away from I
Speaker 5: had to go home to Miami. That was That's what
Speaker 5: I was. That's what I was leaving. And I knew
Speaker 5: what I was doing.
Speaker 4: When I was home.
Speaker 5: I was either vacating, you know, going out to South Beach,
Speaker 5: doing something with my homeboys. But training camp was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: it's time to go back to work. So when I
Speaker 5: got here, it was time to go to work. But
Speaker 5: getting here it was hard. It was real tough.
Speaker 2: I hated the waves like that because every morning you
Speaker 2: have to get to see people. Do understand we have
Speaker 2: to weigh in to make sure we not drastically losing
Speaker 2: weight because we practicing twice a day like we're doing it,
Speaker 2: like so those waves.
Speaker 3: Could change your whole day.
Speaker 2: You don't wait enough, you can't practice you like so
Speaker 2: I thought it was like one of the things where
Speaker 2: the weigh ends was too serious.
Speaker 1: Almost. Yeah, for me, it was like just the anxiety
Speaker 1: of knowing that that was the last day that I
Speaker 1: was gonna feel good for the whole year. And also
Speaker 1: for me it probably a little different than you guys,
Speaker 1: Like this was that was my job interview leading up
Speaker 1: to training camp, you know what I'm saying, Like that
Speaker 1: was like if I didn't do well over the next
Speaker 1: three weeks of practice, I wasn't gonna make the team,
Speaker 1: no right to move my family and iew all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and so there's a ton of pressure.
Speaker 3: Asso shaped with its first bite.
Speaker 5: Yeah, checking you know, I had a guy played before me,
Speaker 5: Edrin James, and he told me, say, man, at the
Speaker 5: year four, the season is going to go by so fast.
Speaker 5: Every year is going to this come and go, And
Speaker 5: training camp was so easy to me by year four,
Speaker 5: like honestly, I swear to God, by year four, I
Speaker 5: was almost like I'm just here and when I watched
Speaker 5: other guys go through the process or what I had
Speaker 5: to go through those first few years. I was trying
Speaker 5: to give them game like, look, bro, do this, do this,
Speaker 5: do this, It's gonna be easy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Have you somebody to take care of that body, because
Speaker 5: the body is what you need. Like it was hard
Speaker 5: to get up and go out there feeling like you felt.
Speaker 5: It's almost like that person who didn't work out for
Speaker 5: the last five years that's not working out for the
Speaker 5: first time.
Speaker 4: That was training camp. Makes you feel like we was
Speaker 4: going two days.
Speaker 5: We was going in the heat with the We didn't
Speaker 5: have this stuff that's going on now where you can't
Speaker 5: go out there twice.
Speaker 4: You got to have you have to have a walk through.
Speaker 4: It was no walk to guess what.
Speaker 5: We actually had three days of training camp because we
Speaker 5: had three days we walked through. Then we want to
Speaker 5: feel and then we want to feel again. So it
Speaker 5: was it was three days really.
Speaker 3: So don't have coach gilds A preaching that right there.
Speaker 5: But I made sure that it got easier for me.
Speaker 5: So the hardest part for me was just getting there.
Speaker 4: You know. I hated the whole leaving part.
Speaker 5: That's why I would come up four days early, just
Speaker 5: so I can make sure my mind is away from
Speaker 5: all the fun.
Speaker 2: And I just I hated. I like to play football,
Speaker 2: this is my thing. I enjoyed practicing, Yeah, everybody tea.
Speaker 2: I enjoy practicing. I enjoyed playing games. I did it
Speaker 2: all with a smile on my face. I hate preseason
Speaker 2: game because it's like I'm getting ready to play play
Speaker 2: play play play.
Speaker 3: I get in three plays and now.
Speaker 2: Like it's one of these, most of them, it's like
Speaker 2: emotional breakup, Like it's like, yeah, we in a relationship.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving you. Yeah, but you gotta get up for
Speaker 1: not like it was. So it was the same thing,
Speaker 1: but reverse for me. So you're like logan, you know,
Speaker 1: like preseason's big, big opportunity, that's what you're gonna make
Speaker 1: the team. And so I'm up. But you don't start
Speaker 1: the game. You're not don't start the second quarter, might
Speaker 1: even not start the third quarter, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's a fourth quarter. And you had to stay warm
Speaker 1: on this like mentally in it the whole time for
Speaker 1: ten plays in the fourth quarter, and it was so
Speaker 1: just a lot. It's a lot of stress and anxiety
Speaker 1: and for you it's like this up and down, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird time of year for sure. So
Speaker 1: but one thing I'm excited about, guys is we get
Speaker 1: to now watch training camp and we get to see
Speaker 1: how this team is going to be built moving forward. Right,
Speaker 1: And so I've got a little game I think we
Speaker 1: should play. I'm gonna call it training Camp Brackets. And
Speaker 1: so what I've done is I've put all the position groups,
Speaker 1: eight position groups into brackets, kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: the Final four whatever I got. So we got quarterbacks
Speaker 1: versus DB's, wide receivers versus linebackers, d line versus coaching,
Speaker 1: and then special teams versus running backs. And we're going
Speaker 1: to decide which group we want to watch more. Then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the next group, yeah, the final,
Speaker 1: the semi finals, and then we'll go to the finals
Speaker 1: and determine which position group we want to watch the most.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I'm I'm thinking about here.
Speaker 1: So do you guys want to start? Start with qbs
Speaker 1: and defensive backs. Let's do it all, right, What we got.
Speaker 3: QB's and defensive qbs.
Speaker 1: This is a this is a this is like in
Speaker 1: terms of position groups, that I did not want to
Speaker 1: see face each other till the.
Speaker 3: To me and this is it.
Speaker 1: It's the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Yes, so so.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of young DB's I just really want
Speaker 2: to watch individually, but I'm sorry, this team star arts
Speaker 2: and then with the quarterback and Sam Howe is the
Speaker 2: guy that everybody eyes on, not just some people, every
Speaker 2: He's the reason for the season.
Speaker 3: I got to move the quarterbacks on to the next one.
Speaker 5: What do you think I'm with the quarterbacks? I mean,
Speaker 5: that's that was my most you know watched.
Speaker 4: Guy on my list.
Speaker 5: This you know, this training camp, I'm watching Sam, I am.
Speaker 5: I want to see every inch of what he's going
Speaker 5: to bring, you know what I mean, I'm looking at
Speaker 5: from the start to when we're saying we're really suiting
Speaker 5: up for this thing to go.
Speaker 4: You know, so you quarterback, you gotta be Sam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is really tough because to me,
Speaker 1: like you got Kwan, you got Forbes, you got Percy,
Speaker 1: you got Forrest, you got this same jeweam coming back
Speaker 1: from the mold. Who's playing the nickel you know, dro
Speaker 1: what's he doing?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 1: Like, who's gonna be the the nickel dime? Guys like
Speaker 1: there's so much in terms of how the defense is
Speaker 1: going to be built that is in that group that
Speaker 1: I want to say, dB is so bad, man. I
Speaker 1: know they're going to be so impactful to this roster.
Speaker 3: But you might way say Jacoba brisket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's the that's the problem, right
Speaker 1: is the most important part of this team is how
Speaker 1: Sam goes yes, and so it doesn't really matter like
Speaker 1: as much as that's going to be so fun to watch,
Speaker 1: and that group could be one of the best groups
Speaker 1: on the team, which is crazy to say that the
Speaker 1: defensive groups like, I want to know what Sam's doing.
Speaker 1: I want to know what the offense looks.
Speaker 4: We all do.
Speaker 1: I want to know what that's about. So as much
Speaker 1: as it pains me, and I know it changes you too,
Speaker 1: because we can't talk about Emmanuel Forbes.
Speaker 2: Now, you're right, listen to me, but I understand the
Speaker 2: importance of quarterback is serious.
Speaker 1: Let me just ask this, Is there any position group
Speaker 1: early on that you would no, no, let the game
Speaker 1: play out, come on, cheat you treat So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's a surprise. Is that an upset in
Speaker 1: the first I.
Speaker 2: Think it is because so many store our first two
Speaker 2: draft picks, was in the defense room for them to
Speaker 2: be gone.
Speaker 5: And then just to know that that's they're a major
Speaker 5: upgrade to five backfield, you know what I mean, just
Speaker 5: not only talking about just these first two guys going
Speaker 5: to private party have a high uh you know, play potential.
Speaker 5: They're gonna make that defense as a whole better, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So, yeah, that's that's definitely a surprise.
Speaker 1: And to me, like that is that's a great point.
Speaker 1: That's like the like two first round draft picks all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So obviously like this feels like the finals
Speaker 1: happening in the first round.
Speaker 3: That's what happened. Man.
Speaker 1: That's tough, man, That's what.
Speaker 3: Happened when football is in the first of all football.
Speaker 5: If the quarterback is the driving force for every organization.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, we're not surprised.
Speaker 1: So let's just talk about the DVS because we're not
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it anymore. Right, Expectations for that group
Speaker 1: going into training camp number one storyline because again this
Speaker 1: last time we're gonna get to talk.
Speaker 4: About number one.
Speaker 2: Stordilane is the number one pick they managed for They're
Speaker 2: drafted him to be a lead dog. The question is
Speaker 2: can he be a lead dog? That's a question that
Speaker 2: we will be answered. And can this great defensive back
Speaker 2: field learn how to play with this great front full?
Speaker 1: Sure this is the question. Yeah you agree, major, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree to And I'm just again. And we talked
Speaker 1: about Kwan, we talked about Forbes. I'm excited for the safeties.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Cam who's going to be the other
Speaker 1: box player. It's a bummer they're out, man, but that's
Speaker 1: how it goes. Next, Go next, Brack. We got wide
Speaker 1: receivers and linebackers and this is kind of a weird one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know what, the linebackers don't have the names.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they are the group with the biggest question mark.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So I can see why people be like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I know what I got it whie, I don't care
Speaker 2: over here.
Speaker 3: I want to see what I got a linebacker, like,
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing. Do you take quality over
Speaker 3: the unknown?
Speaker 2: Yes, because wide receivers I got all this depth in
Speaker 2: quality over here. A linebacker I got people fight for Khali.
Speaker 3: So it's one of the.
Speaker 4: Well do I go with.
Speaker 2: The unknown, And you know I'm going with the lineback
Speaker 2: because we don't know what the hell going on over Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true. I totally agree. I think to y'all, I
Speaker 1: guess for me, it's the linebacker over the receipt I'm
Speaker 1: more in see that group because I know I know
Speaker 1: Terry's gonna come out and Ball. I know Johan's inna
Speaker 1: come out and Ball. I'm I guess the big question
Speaker 1: for me is Curtis, you know, like, what's his role
Speaker 1: going to be? I want to see that. I want
Speaker 1: to see what that looks like. And I think the
Speaker 1: other thing is those fourth, fifth, six receiver spots, especially
Speaker 1: with all those super talented undrafted for agents they brought him.
Speaker 2: The only question I got in the wide receiver room
Speaker 2: is who in the hell is Diamon Brown. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: stand up and showed me who the hell he is.
Speaker 3: I do not know yet.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that insight, But it's still
Speaker 1: the linebackers. So how do you feel about it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when it comes to this, I'm with Fred.
Speaker 5: When it comes we kind of already know what we
Speaker 5: have at the receiving position. The biggest question on his
Speaker 5: team I think going into the season period and I'm
Speaker 5: hoping because I know it's gonna be some free agent
Speaker 5: linebackers available. You know, we've been saying this open, you know,
Speaker 5: but it's gonna be some guys the training camp.
Speaker 4: Like that's a steal, Go get this guy. I'm hoping
Speaker 4: we can bring a guy to in here that we
Speaker 4: can kind of like.
Speaker 5: Put this to rest, because I do believe, like you
Speaker 5: can't go two years without addressing and getting a guy.
Speaker 5: It don't have to be a guy that's gonna come
Speaker 5: in here and be the dominant, you know, for us.
Speaker 5: I feel like we have some potential here that can
Speaker 5: really you know, especially off of that last game of
Speaker 5: the season that we saw last year with some of
Speaker 5: the guys that we had who we didn't know, who
Speaker 5: can you know, bring it like they brought it. I
Speaker 5: hope it's just want we bring someone else in, whether
Speaker 5: it's beginning the training camp or towards the end before
Speaker 5: the season, that we can kind of put this to
Speaker 5: the rest. But the linebackers are going to be number
Speaker 5: one on my list if I have to, you know,
Speaker 5: pick between them and the wire receiver.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 1: And I was also going to say for the linebackers,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because like that's kind of also like where
Speaker 1: that buffalo nickel falls in, right, just kwawning there, just
Speaker 1: caming there. You know this person take that spot.
Speaker 4: And bringing up the buffalo nickel.
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's the reason why we care less
Speaker 5: about that position, because we see we normally have more
Speaker 5: defensive backs on the field anyway, So it's almost like
Speaker 5: this this this this team. It's like, bro, we don't
Speaker 5: need no linebackers.
Speaker 4: We're straight.
Speaker 5: We have have enough athletic guys that we can put
Speaker 5: in here with the buffalo nickel that they can play both.
Speaker 5: But when it comes to other than that, this is
Speaker 5: our set. We play more of the buffalo nickel, then
Speaker 5: we need a traditional.
Speaker 4: Four to three look, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: that's probably why linebackers.
Speaker 1: We don't care what the lineback all right, So receivers
Speaker 1: out early any thoughts on receivers because we're not going
Speaker 1: to talk about him again for the rest of the show.
Speaker 2: Put it like this will eat us be shocked if
Speaker 2: we go out there and training camp store and we
Speaker 2: like Jhan having a good camp, and I spect that
Speaker 2: Terry having a good camp, and I don't think it's
Speaker 2: nothing that the wide receiver group could do to blow
Speaker 2: us away, but the linebacker group can.
Speaker 1: And something that's not on here, and I kind of
Speaker 1: want to just tuck it in here is the tight
Speaker 1: ends with the receivers just for right now, all right?
Speaker 1: To add them in there obviously, Like.
Speaker 2: Cold is the guy that I want to see Cold? Well,
Speaker 2: I want to know who is Cold Turner? And and
Speaker 2: is he tough enough to play football?
Speaker 3: Because I know he's skilled enough. Is he tough enough
Speaker 3: to play this game on this lift?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so? Yeah? And you know Logan Thomas coming back
Speaker 1: from the injury, Curtis Hodge is looking good. Baits when
Speaker 1: they actually start running the ball, does Baits look like
Speaker 1: John Bates one of the best blockers in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go linebackers here with this round. Next
Speaker 1: one I think is really really interesting, and it kind
Speaker 1: of feels like the quarterback versus DB's. It's the defensive
Speaker 1: line versus the coaching And for whatever reason, I think
Speaker 1: strictly because chases in this in.
Speaker 3: This in this group, yeah, it makes it a soap out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it a soap.
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 2: And I would go there, but guess what I know
Speaker 2: in Tanna know in you know, you put us in
Speaker 2: a contract year.
Speaker 6: We all ball, we all show up and do amazing
Speaker 6: NFL things when it's time to get that checked. So
Speaker 6: am I word about switting young showing up to rush
Speaker 6: the passer?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not coaching could take us to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Who is this coaching staff going to make better? I
Speaker 2: see Curtis Samuel being better. I see Antonio Gibson being better.
Speaker 2: I see Johann Dowson being better. I see coaching being
Speaker 2: a difference. That we eight and eight and missed the
Speaker 2: playoffs by one game. Now with ten and seal them
Speaker 2: and ten and eight again going into the playoffs. So
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, I think is coaching over the
Speaker 2: d line. Even though I love me some dirty down Ridgeway,
Speaker 2: I want to see what for Darien matthis you're gonna do,
Speaker 2: Like I want to see what these dudes are gonna do.
Speaker 2: But when I think about the story, the big story
Speaker 2: here it is coach be enemy and coaching period.
Speaker 1: And really, I mean you'd argue that another storyline is
Speaker 1: Jack del Rio, right, yeah, most of that. How he's
Speaker 1: gonna use kind of all these pieces in the back end,
Speaker 1: how he uses all these rushers, how they mitigate kind
Speaker 1: of a weak position with the linebackers, you know.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, and that's why I'm going to
Speaker 4: d line. I mean a friend with preaching.
Speaker 5: I was just saying, listen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I mean, he is a preacher's son. So at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, I can't let him, you know,
Speaker 5: talk his talk. But I think the one thing that
Speaker 5: stands out, which he said he stated that is true.
Speaker 5: We know contract year bring a different beast out of you,
Speaker 5: but I have to see that beast.
Speaker 4: I want to see him because I've been waiting to
Speaker 4: see him, you know.
Speaker 5: I want to see Chase be that Chase that plays
Speaker 5: like It's almost like you know how when you get
Speaker 5: in one of those fights where you just blackout and
Speaker 5: people be like, man, bro, you went to guard the
Speaker 5: first thing you tell them, You're like, look, bro, I
Speaker 5: just I went to I went somewhere else.
Speaker 4: I got to see that Chase.
Speaker 5: I know he has it in him, and not alone
Speaker 5: just seeing what Chase is gonna do is I know
Speaker 5: we're not going to see it in the preseason, but
Speaker 5: the other talent that we got around him, we have
Speaker 5: a lot of depth. He talked about Mathis, he talked
Speaker 5: about Ridgeway, He talked about having talked about the young
Speaker 5: guys kJ Henry, We talking about Andrew Jones. We got
Speaker 5: some skillful guys on that D line to add to
Speaker 5: the Obadas, to the two heel to the to Smith Williams.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of depth at that D line position.
Speaker 5: So I want to see how this thing pans out.
Speaker 5: Who's going to be the guys rotating, then who's going
Speaker 5: to be the guys getting the most played in the preseason.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm interested in.
Speaker 5: I know the coach is gonna coach, but we always
Speaker 5: say the coaches coach.
Speaker 4: The players got to play. Got to see the players.
Speaker 1: Change your opinion? For nothing changes my opinion.
Speaker 3: But he browned up something to ask you a question.
Speaker 1: We gotta come to a consensus here, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, No, no, I gotta. He made me want to
Speaker 2: think something. I know you haven't drunk. I know you
Speaker 2: haven't smoked in your life. Have you ever got in
Speaker 2: a fight.
Speaker 1: Like a real off the field fight.
Speaker 3: Real off the field, I'm talking about bare knucker brawl.
Speaker 5: No, I've never been in a fight off broud what
Speaker 5: neighborhood you grew up in.
Speaker 1: I will say, if you don't drink, it's easier not
Speaker 1: to get in fight.
Speaker 3: But I fight as a kid I'm talking about I
Speaker 3: mean my cousin. We would.
Speaker 4: Look, I barely made out.
Speaker 1: Of middle school, brother, but that doesn't count.
Speaker 5: It's like I think, bro, I barely made out of
Speaker 5: middle school without fighting. Like I was actually kicked out
Speaker 5: my late part of middle school. And they was like, hey,
Speaker 5: don't worry about it. We just gonna see you the
Speaker 5: opportunity of school for you seen your hot because you
Speaker 5: say you fought too much over here and I'm like,
Speaker 5: look at me.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to start on fights. It was just
Speaker 4: it was just I'm in my way, you know what
Speaker 4: i mean. So for you to say you never got
Speaker 4: in a fight.
Speaker 1: Also, bro, Like I'm a I'm a big guy, right,
Speaker 1: So people like they come up to me and they're
Speaker 1: twice and they're like, oh, like people get a little
Speaker 1: noisy or whatever, and it's like, hey, man, like this
Speaker 1: is what we're doing. And it's like the face changes
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You would think out of all us, you wouldn't be
Speaker 3: the son of the preacher.
Speaker 5: Not me.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's why, man, Like that's why.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I will say, Well, I got in trouble
Speaker 1: at U Sa La. We were in training camp my
Speaker 1: sophomore year. I got in a fight in practice fourteen
Speaker 1: consecutive days, full like fist fight, helmets off, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, football just brings that out of me,
Speaker 1: that that darker.
Speaker 3: Tell you was an animal.
Speaker 1: I was an animal.
Speaker 3: You had to call your mom and tell you it
Speaker 3: was a set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and then no. So like the coach had
Speaker 1: to tell me, is like, if you get in one
Speaker 1: more fight, like we got to talk to you about
Speaker 1: whether or not getting the team next year. And I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, I guess I gotta stop
Speaker 1: fighting practice.
Speaker 2: I just want to see you do a little divilment,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I want to see you
Speaker 2: be a little regularly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I respect it.
Speaker 3: Man, put no light cream of irish in your coffee
Speaker 3: or nothing like. I just want to see that you
Speaker 3: live a.
Speaker 1: That's that's a fair point. So d line coaching. Tanna
Speaker 1: made an excellent argument for D line.
Speaker 3: And I'm still going with the coach.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have to go coaching here, Tanna,
Speaker 1: I agree with you in terms of compelling positions. And
Speaker 1: I'm kind of mad at the producer right now. Jason.
Speaker 1: I know he just had a baby, so we can't
Speaker 1: be that mad at him. Got a great The old
Speaker 1: line is not on here, which is really frustrating. So wow,
Speaker 1: that's something that I would kind of ben.
Speaker 3: Line is not on there.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go coaching here.
Speaker 3: I got some saying cosmic questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah so do I Okay, this is an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Special teams versus running back. And before you immediately say
Speaker 1: running back, remember returner kick returner is part of the
Speaker 1: special teams.
Speaker 4: Let me jump by be folks to move, smove, don't
Speaker 4: jump down.
Speaker 1: You gotta get in there, Tanna.
Speaker 4: Quck he argued, he and he got a damn good mount.
Speaker 4: He don't argue.
Speaker 5: But no, honestly, when you talk about special teams and
Speaker 5: we're talking about preseason, we have to talk. We have
Speaker 5: to jump training camp because I don't think that you
Speaker 5: get enough dat you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean out there in practicing what.
Speaker 5: You can do for punt returns to k returning, you're catching,
Speaker 5: you're catching punts before practice. You catch him in a
Speaker 5: special team period. You know, you're basically getting guys together.
Speaker 5: That's who's not gonna be the one or the two.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be the third guy. So okay, you're gonna
Speaker 5: be on the kickoff, or you're gonna be in the
Speaker 5: punt team, or you're gonna be a flyer.
Speaker 4: We know how they get that together, but we're not
Speaker 4: gonna see it.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna see it get into play until we
Speaker 5: actually see a live preseason game.
Speaker 4: So I have to say running back.
Speaker 5: And the only reason why to me, I think this
Speaker 5: running back position stands out more than anything because not
Speaker 5: only that the coach who's gonna be coaching them, and
Speaker 5: he's coaching them from a you know, from the top
Speaker 5: guy position as an officer coordinator, but he's gonna be
Speaker 5: overseeing that.
Speaker 4: Running back position.
Speaker 5: And it's just the whole thing about we think that
Speaker 5: we might have one of the best guys that's not
Speaker 5: even the starter, that's gonna probably have a more impact
Speaker 5: in this offense this year, and that's Ag would say
Speaker 5: runing backs just because of knowing what Ag can bring to.
Speaker 4: This offense with this with his skill set.
Speaker 5: And knowing what the young kid, you know, be robbed
Speaker 5: brought last year just to see him, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of counter or or or add add to what add
Speaker 5: to what he did last year, and just knowing how
Speaker 5: they're going to be looked, you know, they have eyes
Speaker 5: on them now other than the running back coach himself,
Speaker 5: eb is going to be watching these guys every move
Speaker 5: and we know how he brings it. We saw him
Speaker 5: sure everybody else since he's been here, you know. So
Speaker 5: that position is going to be probably the most screwinized
Speaker 5: position on the field.
Speaker 4: So I have to go to running back.
Speaker 1: Is that enough to override the running backs? Because because
Speaker 1: brought up a.
Speaker 4: Good point, you don't.
Speaker 7: Get their running back room will be like hell so
Speaker 7: damn accountable. But special teams when you got to punter
Speaker 7: in the kick of the way, we do like you're
Speaker 7: missing the trifecta of the returnal to make everything special
Speaker 7: over there. So I think if you get a returnal,
Speaker 7: they can break some games open.
Speaker 5: Not but how much of how much do we get
Speaker 5: a chance to really view what they're gonna do as
Speaker 5: a collective group until preseason?
Speaker 1: You know we don't under deciding vote. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: running back, Okay, all right, So next next round Semi five.
Speaker 3: That was kind of cutthroat in dry.
Speaker 1: Because I don't agree with you. I think the running
Speaker 1: backs will be the first half. I gotta keep feelings.
Speaker 2: You can hurt them, all right.
Speaker 1: So we got this is this is a cake walk here,
Speaker 1: this is this is a You got a dominant team
Speaker 1: in this bracket.
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, linebackers, quarterbacks, lineback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's it's quarterback quarterbacks like quarterback, different
Speaker 1: than they're gonna win the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the question is say, I'm saying he never
Speaker 3: made a steak before.
Speaker 1: Huh, that is weird.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to get him to a steakhouse. They
Speaker 3: just show him what is it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he likes chicken, right, that's his thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't ever ate a steak before his life.
Speaker 2: And somebody puts ketch up on everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I want to see him. I want to
Speaker 1: see him in that joint practice against Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I want to see him what I want to see,
Speaker 3: that's all I care about it.
Speaker 1: In preseason, yeah, he's really seen him again that practice
Speaker 1: and the linebackers again, like we're not going to talk
Speaker 1: about him. I think it's obvious. The quarterbacks are so
Speaker 1: important to this roster. But Jamie Davis's development, you do
Speaker 1: anything in the spring, right, yeah, you know, coming off
Speaker 1: the injury, really high kind of end of the year
Speaker 1: last year, Cody Barton, Like what is that? Like? What
Speaker 1: does he look like in this defense? Right? How do
Speaker 1: they allocate Cam curl quand Martin in that Buffalo Nickel roll? Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of compelling storylines there. I just think
Speaker 1: I would I if I had to pick one thing
Speaker 1: to watch, I want to see Sam Howe versus Baltimore
Speaker 1: in the joint practice.
Speaker 3: That's not all I care about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you agree, Tanne? Yeah, I agree? Yeah, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Well that was easy and I kind of like anti
Speaker 1: climactic a little bit.
Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't. It just that you put it
Speaker 2: out there. You was actually correct for the first time
Speaker 2: in months. So you know what I'm saying, We agree
Speaker 2: with you. We're not trying to fight against you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is an interesting one, and I think
Speaker 1: they're kind of connected. So coaching versus running backs, which
Speaker 1: you more excited to see here.
Speaker 5: I think coach is trump the running backs. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: gave me one special teams in the run backs. I
Speaker 5: couldn't put special teams in front of that, but coaching
Speaker 5: did on I think, you know, I got to agree
Speaker 5: with Fred. I think coaching has been kind of like
Speaker 5: Achilles hell, oh you know what I mean, Like it've
Speaker 5: been to the point to where, like, we have the talent,
Speaker 5: Now what are you guys is doing with that talent?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I hope this year
Speaker 4: is the year that we kind.
Speaker 5: Of turned that corner and say, hey, we're gonna make
Speaker 5: sure that we put these guys in the best situation,
Speaker 5: give them the best opportunity to go out there and
Speaker 5: be great. And I think we started already by bringing
Speaker 5: a new offense coordinator and having who we have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna work well with that system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think obviously Eric the enemy, right,
Speaker 1: but like, how does he elevate the offensive line? How
Speaker 1: does he kind of utilize these playmakers? A receiver like that?
Speaker 1: To me is one of the most compelling stories of
Speaker 1: any team in the offseason, right. Yeah, And so I
Speaker 1: think coaching is obviously and I think it's very apropos
Speaker 1: are very poetic that it's quarterback and coaching in the finals.
Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like if if you're if
Speaker 1: you're looking at quarterback, you're also gonna see coaching, and
Speaker 1: you're looking at coaching, you're also going to see it back.
Speaker 1: So I think of the things we're most excited to
Speaker 1: see quarterback coaching makes a lot of sense. Those are
Speaker 1: the big things. They're gonna make this team go.
Speaker 2: Them are the big team that make every team go.
Speaker 2: Think about the best team in football right now. Kansas
Speaker 2: City they.
Speaker 3: Already locked in and coaching, they already locked in.
Speaker 2: A quarterback, so they think about everything else beside those
Speaker 2: two positions. Will we are one those team until we
Speaker 2: get that situated, we always have to think about that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I totally agree. All right, And now closing
Speaker 1: segment real quick, keeps this kind of tight. All right,
Speaker 1: So new dad advice. Jason, our producer, just had a
Speaker 1: baby girl, right, congrats, Oakland's kind of a cool name.
Speaker 1: One bit of advice for him as a new dad,
Speaker 1: and maybe one fun story you guys got about being dad's.
Speaker 3: Here goes the advice.
Speaker 2: You know, only you're not important in the house anymore,
Speaker 2: your wife no only cares about you anymore, And don't get.
Speaker 3: Mad when she say all I love is my child.
Speaker 3: Not get mad when.
Speaker 2: She says that, because she's not really kicking you out
Speaker 2: the group.
Speaker 3: It's just that for the first time.
Speaker 1: You're number two, your number two, you're number three.
Speaker 3: Because she's number two.
Speaker 2: So she has put the baby on the pedestal, then
Speaker 2: comes her, then comes you. So I would tell Jason
Speaker 2: this get with other married men, so you don't.
Speaker 3: So he's beat on up. So he's just it's mental.
Speaker 3: Don't break because me and Menta.
Speaker 2: Can break, like you can break when you when you
Speaker 2: realize in your household nobody cares about you.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's great advice. One of my coaches
Speaker 1: had had four kids and I was and he was like,
Speaker 1: and I was like, how's that having four kids? It's like,
Speaker 1: it's tough being the fifth person in my own house. Yes,
Speaker 1: like everybody else is more important me. My wife cares
Speaker 1: about everything else, like she doesn't have time for my stuff.
Speaker 1: So no, it's good advice. It's good advice saying what
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 5: I can tell you this from just experience, and I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure a lot of people, a lot of parents
Speaker 5: or fathers may have something similar. When you away from
Speaker 5: your kids a lot, and you come back you realize
Speaker 5: how much they need they dad. So regardless of as
Speaker 5: a boy or girl, love on them kids. Show them
Speaker 5: that your dad showed them that their father loves the
Speaker 5: crap out of them, and he's going to always be there,
Speaker 5: regardless of what he has to do, how he's doing it.
Speaker 5: When he's there, number one, Dad's number one man in
Speaker 5: their life. And that's all I can say. I mean,
Speaker 5: I grew up in a two parent household, and I
Speaker 5: remember how much my dad loved on me more than
Speaker 5: my mom. And I think sometime it's kind of like
Speaker 5: it meant to be that way, because you know, your
Speaker 5: mom can be that person that can just ruin the boy.
Speaker 4: She can kind of ruin the boy if she baby
Speaker 4: in them.
Speaker 5: My mom wasn't a baby or she didn't well I
Speaker 5: know she didn't baby me. My dad was the one
Speaker 5: that came behind and loved on me, gave me that
Speaker 5: that that love.
Speaker 4: And the mom was like, get out there and get learned,
Speaker 4: go on the street, you know, go out there and
Speaker 4: be a boy.
Speaker 5: And so as a father, you need to be able
Speaker 5: love on them kids because I'm hard, I know I'm
Speaker 5: hard as hell.
Speaker 4: I know my kids probably look at me and be
Speaker 4: like boy he back, Oh my god, you know.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I know they appreciate them
Speaker 5: around because who I am and and and the voice
Speaker 5: I I have to run what They basically probably rule
Speaker 5: theirselfs they are you know, he fresh stay the well.
Speaker 5: They rule the house most the kids are here. They're
Speaker 5: number one in the house. But they still need the
Speaker 5: guidance and whether the mom is there or not, they
Speaker 5: need their father to always be able to put them
Speaker 5: in the place.
Speaker 2: So get ready for the worst gifts of all his life.
Speaker 2: Tell him to get ready for underwear by the pine. Listen,
Speaker 2: I got one close that dedicatedear kids.
Speaker 3: Hey, them kids, mothers. This is what they do. Mother's Day.
Speaker 3: They find the best steakhouse in America. They take they
Speaker 3: they take Mama to the steakhouse. Father's Day.
Speaker 2: They gonna get you an uncooked steak, dropping it off,
Speaker 2: tell you to cook them.
Speaker 3: It's different. Man.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is pray, brother, you can join my
Speaker 2: new friend to limb full of numbered Dad.
Speaker 1: You guys both have you guys? Have you got boys
Speaker 1: and girls?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know you got a girl. You got boys and girls?
Speaker 3: And girls.
Speaker 1: Is it different for boys and girls? Different for a dad.
Speaker 3: I'm a girl. I'm a girl that listen. The boy, Oh,
Speaker 3: they just turn their back.
Speaker 1: They all about mama. That is true.
Speaker 2: And then when you get older, I think girls keep
Speaker 2: families together and men go out. Your boys go start
Speaker 2: family with the with the female family.
Speaker 3: So not girls, that's true.
Speaker 1: Cause think about it, like you hang out with your
Speaker 1: in laws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you with your family.
Speaker 2: Wife, want we gonna do something your family, I hate
Speaker 2: your mama, that's the way.
Speaker 3: And be a marriage will tell family apart. It'll be
Speaker 3: on one, but it will tear a family apart. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: he right on so many levels.
Speaker 5: Man, Hey no, but the boys will get to a
Speaker 5: point where it's about their mama and them, you know what.
Speaker 4: I mean, Dad, because they don't want to hear that.
Speaker 5: They don't want to you know, boys, boys get to
Speaker 5: be teenagers and feel like they.
Speaker 4: Know until they realize they're not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And like I've been one.
Speaker 5: Of those guys that even at you know, right before
Speaker 5: I was eighteen. When I was seventeen, there's no question
Speaker 5: I still needed my daddy in the house. But I
Speaker 5: don't think these kids get that dec this day. Them girls, man,
Speaker 5: that's bro. Look here, they gonna love. They're gonna be
Speaker 5: the one that if you ever in the pample down
Speaker 5: the road, they're.
Speaker 4: Gonna be the one to change. Because the boys.
Speaker 5: The boys look like I say, you gotta think we
Speaker 5: come from a different level of parenting. Like we're professional
Speaker 5: athletes at the top of our game. We play in
Speaker 5: the NFL, the top level of the you know, all
Speaker 5: the levels of playing that that sport. Normally, our kids
Speaker 5: followed those those those boys that were raising they don't
Speaker 5: want to be football players.
Speaker 3: And I just had to.
Speaker 5: Talk with my brother the day. I'm like, bro, I
Speaker 5: don't understand it. Like if I was in there shoes,
Speaker 5: I want to asking my dad everything.
Speaker 4: My sons have never sat there and say Dad, what
Speaker 4: to do with this? What to do with this? And
Speaker 4: they want to play the.
Speaker 5: Same position and they don't want to ask you nothing,
Speaker 5: but they'll tell you. But you saw that you saw
Speaker 5: that catch the ob J. They gonna go to YouTube
Speaker 5: and show you saw.
Speaker 2: Really on the corner and be like, yeah, will it
Speaker 2: just told me if I slowed my back fiell of down,
Speaker 2: I told you three years ago.
Speaker 5: So so and so I find it off, but at
Speaker 5: the same time, don't get mad about it, because you
Speaker 5: know what I do. I say, you know, I'm glad
Speaker 5: because if I was coaching you, I've been to kick.
Speaker 4: You in you know.
Speaker 5: You know what, So I go get somebody else to
Speaker 5: coach it because you don't want to hear from me,
Speaker 5: because it's gonna be hard all the time, you.
Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, so Jason, hopefully that advice is helpful. Enjoy it. Man,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. I mean, you have a kid,
Speaker 1: the other kid, and we can tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: Not every everybody lies and says so it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Man, it is grind j.
Speaker 4: Jason saying one and done gave me.
Speaker 1: An ear for Enjoy it. Be patient and also, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I mean now we're doing like
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