WEBVTT - Cornelia Frame (VP of Casting and Talent Relations at Disney) 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.920 Welcome back, and thank you so much for joining us 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.080 on this park Hopper episode of Magical Rewind. We are 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.520 very excited for today's guests. I'm always super excited when 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.720 we can get people from the other. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:26.759 Side of the d com. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.800 So it's awesome to get the actors and the people 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.280 that were involved in the actual shooting of the projects. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.879 But when we get somebody from the channel who can 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.800 kind of give us overall views of what's going on, 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.840 I get really excited because I always learn a whole 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.080 bunch of new stuff. So you know this person, don't you. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:44.200 I do. Yes. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.400 She was absolutely one of the top dogs that was 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.800 handling so much around us during all three of the movies, 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.680 I want to say, and for quite a bit after. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.240 And she's always super fun and. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.240 Easy going and just like you know, when she was 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.720 on set or anywhere we were having to be, it 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.400 was always so fun to just chat with her. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.760 I love that. Well, I can't wait. Let's get right 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.400 into it. Please help us. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.319 Welcome Cornelia Frame, who was the vice president of Casting 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.319 and Talent Relations at the Disney Channel for eighteen years. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:17.560 I cannot wait to talk to her. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:28.800 Cornelia Frame, Hi, Hello, Hello, Welcome Yeah. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.160 One thing I forgot to say will she was always 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:32.960 dressed to the tea. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.880 Her style never fails. I love the top. Look at 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.720 how cute you are, Ah, Sabrina. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.319 You know though, you taught me a lot in the 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.039 hair and makeup department, because what is your was your 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:47.080 mom a hairstylist? 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.240 Yes, okay, you gave me this tip that I tell 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.400 people to this day. You told me, you said, practice 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.120 when you're like, practice doing your hair and makeup when 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.920 you're not going out, like when you're staying home, so 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.480 you can like make mistakes so you're not stressed, so 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.440 you're not in a rush. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.440 Because all my friends were like, you're here and makeups amazing. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.520 I'm like I learned it from all the talent on 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.680 Disney Channel, but like you gave me that tip, and 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.359 I would play around with a curling iron, like on 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.080 a Friday night if I even if I had nowhere 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:19.840 to be, and it was like how I learned how 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.880 to make my heart a little more down. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.120 Yeah, because then when you do have to you're not 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.360 like really stressed because you're figuring out something for the 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:26.760 first time. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.920 Oh well, thank you so much for joining us. We 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.160 love when we have people. I was just telling Sabrina. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.520 We were talking about this in the intro where we 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.440 get a lot of the actors that come on the show, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.360 which we love hearing about the actual productions and what 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.320 it was like to shoot you know, insert movie name here. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.799 But we're always so excited when we get somebody from 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.600 the other side that comes from the channel to tell 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.040 us kind of the overview of how it works, how 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.359 the sausage is made. For lack of a better term, So, 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.880 so you spent eighteen years at Disney and left as 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.919 VP of Casting and Talent Relations, can you please let 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.960 the people know what that job entails. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.920 Well, it means you find talent, You find them from 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.480 all across the world, and then you make sure they 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.800 are taken care of in many different ways on the 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.720 talent relation side, from promoting their own project and often 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.760 asking them to help promote other other brands within the company, 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.160 like a. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.040 Disney cruise going to going. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.080 On Radio Disney at Radio Disney Music Awards, or it 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.040 could be even co promoting a Disney feature film too. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.440 So you kind of had your hand in a lot 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.560 of different elements for all sorts of different talent, which 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.360 was an opportunity for me. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.000 And now is this correct that you oversaw over two 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.320 hundred live action projects for the company. Yes, okay, so 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.440 let me let me name just a few of them 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.600 and see if we've got some of the bangers here. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.680 This track record is insane, you guys, buckle up. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:52.960 This is amazing. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:58.360 High school musical, Wizards of Waverley Place, Hannah Montana, Jesse Casey, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.160 Undercover Girl meets were World, that's so raven, Sweet Life 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.960 of Zach and Cody Descendants, Good Luck Charlie, and the 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:06.880 list goes on and on. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:07.920 We're all those correct. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.080 Those are correct. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.440 My very first day of my very first day, it 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.479 was actually before my very first day, but my boss said, 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.280 why don't you come in and just come in because 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.920 we're testing this girl for this TV show. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.160 And it was Miley Cyrus. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.880 They were testing her for Hannah Montana that day and 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.960 that was like the day that she ends up getting 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.679 the role, and it was wild. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.200 Then a month later, we're a just named zac Efron. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.839 I mean, it just sort of everything kind of I 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.359 had meetings with the Jonas brothers early on, and it 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.080 just sort of like everything came one after the other. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.360 Speaking of Miley, Cyrus. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.760 Did we hear originally that the role of Hannah Montana 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.880 was actually offered to Was it Ali of Ali and 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.000 Aj Yes. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.960 You know, I don't know if they offered it to her, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.520 although I do think they did present it to her. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.039 Yeah, And she had said. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.000 That Gary Marsh wanted to wanted her to and she 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:01.719 said no. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.800 Yeah, yeah, crazy, can't believe it. I mean, she would 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.760 have been great too. She has so much of the 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.000 fun quirkiness of what Miley brought to the role and everything. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.200 She's got a great voice that's like, Wow, how do 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.760 you pass that up? How do you pass up at 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.920 Disney Channel show? I don't understand, but hey, I'm sure 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:22.640 there was a reason. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.400 Well, and I think a lot a lot of people 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.680 I'm sure have mentioned who've been on here before. It's 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.880 sometimes you just want to get out of the Disney time. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.040 It's like you did your high school time. You did 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.240 your school time. It's like, Okay, I want to go 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.720 to college now, and that maybe on an ABC show 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.520 or I may be on another a movie side of it, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.000 you want to sort of get your feet wet in 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.680 a different, different part of your acting. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.680 Bone. Sure, yeah, because I do think she would have 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.279 been older than what Miley was when she took on 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.480 the role for sure, right, she was closer to eighteen 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.839 than Miley was. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.919 Yeah, yeah, that's ancient and Disney when it comes to 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:00.279 Disney Channel, that's like eighteen. My god, you're well past 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.000 your prime on the Disney Channel at eighteen. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.080 When I booked The Cheetah Girls, I was seventeen, going 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.679 in for the role of a fifteen year old and thinking, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.000 you know, obviously I wanted it so bad, but I 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.400 was so worried they were going to see my age 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.320 and think, oh no, there's you know. But knowing it 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.120 was a d com, it wasn't a TV show, I 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.680 thought maybe I'd have a little bit more a chance 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.719 because again, they didn't know it was going to be 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.040 three of them. They thought I would just be one 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.400 one movie. So I was really nervous because I was 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:27.680 seventeen and I was going. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.040 Well, remember when we interviewed her from Got to Kick 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.000 It Up, she was what twenty five playing fourteen or. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.080 Something like that, and she just kept her mouth shut. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.560 Like I'm just not going to tell anybody how old 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.400 I am. Just just in kayse. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.040 And that's so Miley Cyrus the Jason URLs, who played 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.240 Miley's brother on the show. He just kept his mouth 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.719 I mean he must have been twenty five twenty he 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.680 was much much older and he just kept his mouth shut. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:50.599 Yep, just be quiet. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:51.240 It was awesome. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.280 IMDb didn't have birthdays at that time on it. It 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.200 was very it was you know, there was not a 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.640 lot of information out there. Was really easy to keep 0:06:58.640 --> 0:06:59.960 it quiet for a long time too. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.880 Yeah, yeah, okay, so we've mentioned some names now, We've 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.920 mentioned Miley Cyrus, We've mentioned the Jonas brothers. Let let 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.760 me just read you this is another list here, if 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.400 you can stand, another list of some of the globally 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.040 famous names that you helped to find and you worked with. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:20.320 Selena Gomez, Olivia Rodrigu, Zendeia, Sabrina Carpenter, the Jonas Brothers, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:25.920 Miley Cyrus, Demi Levado, Zach Efron, Austin Butler, and Jenna 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.120 Ortega just. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.680 A few people that are slightly working in the industry 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:30.440 right now. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.040 So here is a question that I'm sure you get 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.880 asked a lot, and I know there's terms that we hear, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.960 it it factor whatever is, but how when somebody walks 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.520 into the room do you know that's the person. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.800 It is a very an unspoken like vibe often that 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.560 just feels it and like the way they connect with 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.840 the material. But even some of the people who are 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.800 become it, they can read for the wrong job and 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.040 it just doesn't work out at all and it takes 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.760 them a lot longer. Like even Austin Butler has an 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.880 interesting career. He was a background on a million of 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.800 shows for so long, Like he's somebody who really put 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.280 in tons and tons and tons and tons of work 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:19.280 too for it, and he was and sometimes the luck 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.360 also wasn't even there. The luck was meaning you know, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.560 like if you could be on the What's going to 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:25.280 be the hottest show? 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.080 But if it if nobody watches it, nobody sees you. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.040 So but on the it factor, I mean sometimes you 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.280 just it's just everything from how they're speaking to the 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.080 casting director, like how they're chatting, and then and then 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.800 they just naturally slide into the material right away too, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:42.960 like in a way that you're like, this person has 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.360 has something that I want to work with that I 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.480 believe in the factor too, and I'm sure their names 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.040 I could I can't remember that. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.160 I'm like that person was it too, that may not 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:53.840 have made it. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.720 Everybody has, you know, those people on their list too 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.600 that they hoped so much for it, you know, even 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:00.560 Olivia Rodrigo. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.120 I mean I were set around. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.920 She had had on YouTube some tapes of her doing 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.520 some performing and I'd set it around and they were 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.600 much more like they're similar to her style now. But 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.040 that was not what pop music was at that time. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.440 You were in the ballad era at all that started. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.920 I can't remember what year where suddenly popped in the 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.560 top ten. There would be ballads, which was very rare 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.200 for many years, and it was just not the timing 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.600 wasn't right at that moment, and she was on bizarre 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.480 part for us at that time she was. It was 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.960 before high school musical, So you really need the right 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.600 project to catapull you to the next next level. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.800 Yeah, and you actually got a chance to go on 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.800 set quite a bit, right for all of these different 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.439 d coms and TV shows. What was one of your 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.439 favorite memories of being on set with the cast? Where 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.000 did you get a chance to either travel to or 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.000 you know, be able to be a part of something 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.360 that you just really remember always. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.280 Yeah, I mean that is one of the best parts 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.320 of the job is being able to go to sets 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:04.760 in general. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.520 I mean, it's really privileged to be able to see 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:06.840 that movie. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.240 And seeing how many people it takes to make movies 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.000 and TV shows, it's wild. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.240 There's no small. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:17.360 Feed to get these projects made, and it's uh, you know, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.160 I didn't get to go to your set, Cety girls 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:21.480 in India or Spain. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:22.560 I didn't get to go to either. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.320 I remember everybody, even when they went to India, what 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.760 an Everybody who got to go at the company at 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.400 that time actually felt like it was a really big 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.280 privilege that they got to go because it was not again, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:34.920 it's India. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.240 It's all the way in India. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.800 And like, yeah, there was you know, we were not 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.560 sending just tons of executives over and that's not how 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.160 the channel operated too. They were they really, you know, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.920 everybody had to really have a very big purpose to 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.120 be there, and so and I remember just all the 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.200 different people who would get to go. And then Spain, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.679 I didn't get to go to either, but I did 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:55.960 get to meet you in Spain. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.240 I Madrid, and we did a promo. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:03.360 The promo concert exactly. Do you remember how sick I was, Yes. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.679 But I remember it was at the very tail end 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.440 of like the promotional window. Yes, very it was like 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.480 a challenging time for everybody. But I even remember all 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.240 the three of you after the party, like you're just 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.240 sitting down just being so happy. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.760 And also being like that was really fun. I kind 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:19.720 of wanted to do it again. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.360 As hard as it was, like right the heart into it, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.640 it was really hard, and you all, the three of 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.320 you were such sisters like then you all, I mean, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.840 it was really fun. It was It's very infectious to 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.720 be around the talent because every they're all friends, and 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.000 then they're friends within the different like all the different 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.719 shows and movies are often friends too because they've had 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.679 to do international promos for three days together. We would 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.240 get talent together to do that and that would be 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.959 where you get to sort of interact with everybody all 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.840 the time and and get to spend time. But even yeah, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.520 going to Utah for the High School Musical series recently 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.520 was fabulous too because there was a lot of people 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.160 we worked on the movie who were involved in the 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.240 series too, and that was really special to see these people, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.400 you know, being able to come back again and work around. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.840 We just talked to Corwin blue like last week. So 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.440 he was telling us just how wonderful it was. But wait, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.400 I have to jump in. I'm sorry, Sabrina, you've never 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.240 told me about this. What you were sick when you 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.600 were doing a concert? 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.360 Yeah, I had scarlet fever or something crazy. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.480 You were sick in eighteen seventy. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.120 No, it was like something. So we went to do 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:28.480 a show. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.200 But we were in the midst of doing our tour 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.520 and Disney Channel was expanding into Spain, right, that was 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:34.079 what that was. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.520 For launching Spain. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.080 And this was part of a big relaunch party, okay, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.120 And they were the only talent that got to be 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:41.880 brought over. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.959 There, I think, so I don't remember a lot of 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.920 other talent that was there with us. And I actually 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.240 had stayed home one day trying to get myself better. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.240 I went into a doctor. I had to get like 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.240 a whole needle situation. It was like this whole thing 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.200 to get me better, just to get me there. And 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.280 then when I got there, then I got to see 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.440 a doctor from Spain. He gave me whatever. I felt 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.720 like a new sprung chicken. I was out there dancing 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.160 like you would never have even known that I was sick. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.800 And then on my way home during that flight, I 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.679 got my my I you know, was taking the medication, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.600 but still kind of got sick a little bit more. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.679 But at the same time, I don't know if it 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.080 was the adrenaline of just being there and when we 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.440 had stuff like that with the Channel, you just knew 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.000 these were once in a lifetime opportunities that it was 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.200 such a big deal for us to be there. It 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.280 was huge that the Channel was launching into Spain. It 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.000 was huge for us because at that time, High School 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.240 Musical had come out, I believe, and the Jonahs brothers 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.960 were working, so we were the talent that they decided 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.360 to go out there with and it was just a 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.720 big opportunity. So I don't know really exactly if it 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.400 was just the medication or if I was just like 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.120 hyped on life that I didn't care. All I did 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.840 to do was do my ten minute set and then 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.439 I was good. But it was so fun, and that's 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.640 what I was I loved is you could tell whenever 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.439 you were around us that you were really seeing us 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.319 as a cast and as a as a real life friendship, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.240 you know, and you were able to go do that 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.360 with the High School musical casts and all the other 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.120 the Hannah Montana casts and all of those other shows 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.000 and just see one on one. Like how special those 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.200 relationships became. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.720 Yeah, A lot of people talk about it as like school. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.080 It's like an alumni thing, like when they see somebody 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.960 from that time, that era, you know, it feels like, oh, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.880 we went to school together, we have the same totally. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.400 We have that with the TGIF group. That was all 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.800 this the same TGIF people, It's that same thing. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:34.520 Yeah. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.280 I heard that about the TGIF because a Disney executive 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.280 had worked during that era, and I remember being just 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:41.880 as excited hearing about that era. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:53.080 It was crazy. Okay with the list of people that 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.240 we just named, which is insane. Is there someone out 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.360 there that as you watch their career you feel a 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.080 special kind of bond with, like I help that start, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.080 I helped find that person, or there's something special about 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.320 that one individual. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:08.400 Well, I mean so much. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.760 Also is a group thing too, Like I got so 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.840 much credit to a lot of the other executives at 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:13.840 Disney Channel too. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:14.560 Like when I. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.600 Say so, I hate to take a complete proprietary sentence 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.440 about it, but even right now, Sabrina Carpenter songs has been, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.400 like she said, two songs in the top ten lately, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.080 and that girl has worked so hard from so such 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:27.720 a young age. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.720 She was someone we loved as an actress. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:30.160 Early on. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.600 She did a pilot for us and we loved her, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.720 and it was just the pilot didn't go and it's like, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.120 what was the next right thing? 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.800 You know, what were we going to do with her? 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.800 And she had a great voice too, I remember she 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.040 had a voice, and she had just a sparkling fun 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.880 at this personality that was awesome and you just really 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:50.920 liked being around her. 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.360 And she was really good actress too, And that's shit 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:54.880 great people. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.040 Don't people think, oh, they're just like the acting is 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.520 like nothing, it's all they only hire a bunch of singers. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.320 And it's like, no, no, no, no, we need you needed. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.200 To be an actor too, And that was really first, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.560 and then the music thing would end up happening naturally, 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.800 very organically, naturally, unless you were auditioning for a music project. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.360 Did she by chance, Sabrina? Was she around in that 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.280 area like to possibly audition for that same role? 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.760 No, it's so interesting, I'm trying to remember if she 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.360 auditioned for one of the other roles in Descendants because 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.520 then she yeah, because she ended up doing Avengers and 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:29.920 babysitting was Sophia. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.040 Cars That's where I met her at that premiere. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:32.880 Yeah, exactly. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.120 She would have been too young for Descendants, wouldn't she 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:35.840 just buy a bit? 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:36.640 Exactly? 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.320 But Zendek did audition many times for Descendants, and that 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.440 was a big deal, Like, I mean a. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.640 Really big deal that she auditioned over and over. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.480 I mean she she really wanted it, and it just 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.960 ended up not going her way. And you know, I'm 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.960 sure now that I think about it, and I'm like, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.720 did she had Spiderman? Like would Spider Man have happened 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.600 right at the same time? Because it really is true 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.120 late things happen for a reason, and you do often 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.000 book this other thing that's amazing when you don't get 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.080 something else. But Zendaia definitely like put so much effort 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.600 and so much work into it too. Wow, And it 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.840 just it's one of those things that you're really you know, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.000 you you understand when people want these roles, like how 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:21.840 important it is. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:23.840 Well that going back to what you said, though, that 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.040 was exactly the thing that amazed me when I walked 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.240 on the set of Groming's world. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.880 Was how funny Sabrina and Rowan both were. I mean, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:32.439 it was it. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.639 I knew that they could sing, and I knew Sabrina 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.119 won't really wanted to be singing on all that stuff, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.000 but the comedy was there. And to me, again, I 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.159 don't sing at all, but comedy is music and you 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:41.640 could just. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.320 Tell they had the rhythm. So yeah, very very impressive. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:45.200