Speaker 1: Welcome back, and thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on this park Hopper episode of Magical Rewind. We are
Speaker 1: very excited for today's guests. I'm always super excited when
Speaker 1: we can get people from the other.
Speaker 2: Side of the d com.
Speaker 1: So it's awesome to get the actors and the people
Speaker 1: that were involved in the actual shooting of the projects.
Speaker 1: But when we get somebody from the channel who can
Speaker 1: kind of give us overall views of what's going on,
Speaker 1: I get really excited because I always learn a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of new stuff. So you know this person, don't you.
Speaker 2: I do. Yes.
Speaker 3: She was absolutely one of the top dogs that was
Speaker 3: handling so much around us during all three of the movies,
Speaker 3: I want to say, and for quite a bit after.
Speaker 4: And she's always super fun and.
Speaker 3: Easy going and just like you know, when she was
Speaker 3: on set or anywhere we were having to be, it
Speaker 3: was always so fun to just chat with her.
Speaker 2: I love that. Well, I can't wait. Let's get right
Speaker 2: into it. Please help us.
Speaker 1: Welcome Cornelia Frame, who was the vice president of Casting
Speaker 1: and Talent Relations at the Disney Channel for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to talk to her.
Speaker 5: Cornelia Frame, Hi, Hello, Hello, Welcome Yeah.
Speaker 3: One thing I forgot to say will she was always
Speaker 3: dressed to the tea.
Speaker 4: Her style never fails. I love the top. Look at
Speaker 4: how cute you are, Ah, Sabrina.
Speaker 6: You know though, you taught me a lot in the
Speaker 6: hair and makeup department, because what is your was your
Speaker 6: mom a hairstylist?
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, you gave me this tip that I tell
Speaker 7: people to this day. You told me, you said, practice
Speaker 7: when you're like, practice doing your hair and makeup when
Speaker 7: you're not going out, like when you're staying home, so
Speaker 7: you can like make mistakes so you're not stressed, so
Speaker 7: you're not in a rush.
Speaker 6: Because all my friends were like, you're here and makeups amazing.
Speaker 6: I'm like I learned it from all the talent on
Speaker 6: Disney Channel, but like you gave me that tip, and
Speaker 6: I would play around with a curling iron, like on
Speaker 6: a Friday night if I even if I had nowhere
Speaker 6: to be, and it was like how I learned how
Speaker 6: to make my heart a little more down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because then when you do have to you're not
Speaker 3: like really stressed because you're figuring out something for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you so much for joining us. We
Speaker 1: love when we have people. I was just telling Sabrina.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this in the intro where we
Speaker 1: get a lot of the actors that come on the show,
Speaker 1: which we love hearing about the actual productions and what
Speaker 1: it was like to shoot you know, insert movie name here.
Speaker 1: But we're always so excited when we get somebody from
Speaker 1: the other side that comes from the channel to tell
Speaker 1: us kind of the overview of how it works, how
Speaker 1: the sausage is made. For lack of a better term, So,
Speaker 1: so you spent eighteen years at Disney and left as
Speaker 1: VP of Casting and Talent Relations, can you please let
Speaker 1: the people know what that job entails.
Speaker 6: Well, it means you find talent, You find them from
Speaker 6: all across the world, and then you make sure they
Speaker 6: are taken care of in many different ways on the
Speaker 6: talent relation side, from promoting their own project and often
Speaker 6: asking them to help promote other other brands within the company,
Speaker 6: like a.
Speaker 8: Disney cruise going to going.
Speaker 6: On Radio Disney at Radio Disney Music Awards, or it
Speaker 6: could be even co promoting a Disney feature film too.
Speaker 6: So you kind of had your hand in a lot
Speaker 6: of different elements for all sorts of different talent, which
Speaker 6: was an opportunity for me.
Speaker 1: And now is this correct that you oversaw over two
Speaker 1: hundred live action projects for the company. Yes, okay, so
Speaker 1: let me let me name just a few of them
Speaker 1: and see if we've got some of the bangers here.
Speaker 4: This track record is insane, you guys, buckle up.
Speaker 2: This is amazing.
Speaker 1: High school musical, Wizards of Waverley Place, Hannah Montana, Jesse Casey,
Speaker 1: Undercover Girl meets were World, that's so raven, Sweet Life
Speaker 1: of Zach and Cody Descendants, Good Luck Charlie, and the
Speaker 1: list goes on and on.
Speaker 2: We're all those correct.
Speaker 8: Those are correct.
Speaker 6: My very first day of my very first day, it
Speaker 6: was actually before my very first day, but my boss said,
Speaker 6: why don't you come in and just come in because
Speaker 6: we're testing this girl for this TV show.
Speaker 8: And it was Miley Cyrus.
Speaker 6: They were testing her for Hannah Montana that day and
Speaker 6: that was like the day that she ends up getting
Speaker 6: the role, and it was wild.
Speaker 8: Then a month later, we're a just named zac Efron.
Speaker 6: I mean, it just sort of everything kind of I
Speaker 6: had meetings with the Jonas brothers early on, and it
Speaker 6: just sort of like everything came one after the other.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Miley, Cyrus.
Speaker 1: Did we hear originally that the role of Hannah Montana
Speaker 1: was actually offered to Was it Ali of Ali and
Speaker 1: Aj Yes.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if they offered it to her,
Speaker 6: although I do think they did present it to her.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And she had said.
Speaker 2: That Gary Marsh wanted to wanted her to and she
Speaker 2: said no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, crazy, can't believe it. I mean, she would
Speaker 3: have been great too. She has so much of the
Speaker 3: fun quirkiness of what Miley brought to the role and everything.
Speaker 3: She's got a great voice that's like, Wow, how do
Speaker 3: you pass that up? How do you pass up at
Speaker 3: Disney Channel show? I don't understand, but hey, I'm sure
Speaker 3: there was a reason.
Speaker 6: Well, and I think a lot a lot of people
Speaker 6: I'm sure have mentioned who've been on here before. It's
Speaker 6: sometimes you just want to get out of the Disney time.
Speaker 6: It's like you did your high school time. You did
Speaker 6: your school time. It's like, Okay, I want to go
Speaker 6: to college now, and that maybe on an ABC show
Speaker 6: or I may be on another a movie side of it,
Speaker 6: you want to sort of get your feet wet in
Speaker 6: a different, different part of your acting.
Speaker 3: Bone. Sure, yeah, because I do think she would have
Speaker 3: been older than what Miley was when she took on
Speaker 3: the role for sure, right, she was closer to eighteen
Speaker 3: than Miley was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's ancient and Disney when it comes to
Speaker 1: Disney Channel, that's like eighteen. My god, you're well past
Speaker 1: your prime on the Disney Channel at eighteen.
Speaker 3: When I booked The Cheetah Girls, I was seventeen, going
Speaker 3: in for the role of a fifteen year old and thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously I wanted it so bad, but I
Speaker 3: was so worried they were going to see my age
Speaker 3: and think, oh no, there's you know. But knowing it
Speaker 3: was a d com, it wasn't a TV show, I
Speaker 3: thought maybe I'd have a little bit more a chance
Speaker 3: because again, they didn't know it was going to be
Speaker 3: three of them. They thought I would just be one
Speaker 3: one movie. So I was really nervous because I was
Speaker 3: seventeen and I was going.
Speaker 1: Well, remember when we interviewed her from Got to Kick
Speaker 1: It Up, she was what twenty five playing fourteen or.
Speaker 2: Something like that, and she just kept her mouth shut.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just not going to tell anybody how old
Speaker 1: I am. Just just in kayse.
Speaker 6: And that's so Miley Cyrus the Jason URLs, who played
Speaker 6: Miley's brother on the show. He just kept his mouth
Speaker 6: I mean he must have been twenty five twenty he
Speaker 6: was much much older and he just kept his mouth shut.
Speaker 2: Yep, just be quiet.
Speaker 8: It was awesome.
Speaker 6: IMDb didn't have birthdays at that time on it. It
Speaker 6: was very it was you know, there was not a
Speaker 6: lot of information out there. Was really easy to keep
Speaker 6: it quiet for a long time too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so we've mentioned some names now, We've
Speaker 1: mentioned Miley Cyrus, We've mentioned the Jonas brothers. Let let
Speaker 1: me just read you this is another list here, if
Speaker 1: you can stand, another list of some of the globally
Speaker 1: famous names that you helped to find and you worked with.
Speaker 1: Selena Gomez, Olivia Rodrigu, Zendeia, Sabrina Carpenter, the Jonas Brothers,
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus, Demi Levado, Zach Efron, Austin Butler, and Jenna
Speaker 1: Ortega just.
Speaker 2: A few people that are slightly working in the industry
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: So here is a question that I'm sure you get
Speaker 1: asked a lot, and I know there's terms that we hear,
Speaker 1: it it factor whatever is, but how when somebody walks
Speaker 1: into the room do you know that's the person.
Speaker 6: It is a very an unspoken like vibe often that
Speaker 6: just feels it and like the way they connect with
Speaker 6: the material. But even some of the people who are
Speaker 6: become it, they can read for the wrong job and
Speaker 6: it just doesn't work out at all and it takes
Speaker 6: them a lot longer. Like even Austin Butler has an
Speaker 6: interesting career. He was a background on a million of
Speaker 6: shows for so long, Like he's somebody who really put
Speaker 6: in tons and tons and tons and tons of work
Speaker 6: too for it, and he was and sometimes the luck
Speaker 6: also wasn't even there. The luck was meaning you know,
Speaker 6: like if you could be on the What's going to
Speaker 6: be the hottest show?
Speaker 8: But if it if nobody watches it, nobody sees you.
Speaker 6: So but on the it factor, I mean sometimes you
Speaker 6: just it's just everything from how they're speaking to the
Speaker 6: casting director, like how they're chatting, and then and then
Speaker 6: they just naturally slide into the material right away too,
Speaker 6: like in a way that you're like, this person has
Speaker 6: has something that I want to work with that I
Speaker 6: believe in the factor too, and I'm sure their names
Speaker 6: I could I can't remember that.
Speaker 8: I'm like that person was it too, that may not
Speaker 8: have made it.
Speaker 6: Everybody has, you know, those people on their list too
Speaker 6: that they hoped so much for it, you know, even
Speaker 6: Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 8: I mean I were set around.
Speaker 6: She had had on YouTube some tapes of her doing
Speaker 6: some performing and I'd set it around and they were
Speaker 6: much more like they're similar to her style now. But
Speaker 6: that was not what pop music was at that time.
Speaker 6: You were in the ballad era at all that started.
Speaker 6: I can't remember what year where suddenly popped in the
Speaker 6: top ten. There would be ballads, which was very rare
Speaker 6: for many years, and it was just not the timing
Speaker 6: wasn't right at that moment, and she was on bizarre
Speaker 6: part for us at that time she was. It was
Speaker 6: before high school musical, So you really need the right
Speaker 6: project to catapull you to the next next level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you actually got a chance to go on
Speaker 3: set quite a bit, right for all of these different
Speaker 3: d coms and TV shows. What was one of your
Speaker 3: favorite memories of being on set with the cast? Where
Speaker 3: did you get a chance to either travel to or
Speaker 3: you know, be able to be a part of something
Speaker 3: that you just really remember always.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that is one of the best parts
Speaker 6: of the job is being able to go to sets
Speaker 6: in general.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's really privileged to be able to see
Speaker 8: that movie.
Speaker 6: And seeing how many people it takes to make movies
Speaker 6: and TV shows, it's wild.
Speaker 8: There's no small.
Speaker 6: Feed to get these projects made, and it's uh, you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't get to go to your set, Cety girls
Speaker 6: in India or Spain.
Speaker 8: I didn't get to go to either.
Speaker 6: I remember everybody, even when they went to India, what
Speaker 6: an Everybody who got to go at the company at
Speaker 6: that time actually felt like it was a really big
Speaker 6: privilege that they got to go because it was not again,
Speaker 6: it's India.
Speaker 8: It's all the way in India.
Speaker 6: And like, yeah, there was you know, we were not
Speaker 6: sending just tons of executives over and that's not how
Speaker 6: the channel operated too. They were they really, you know,
Speaker 6: everybody had to really have a very big purpose to
Speaker 6: be there, and so and I remember just all the
Speaker 6: different people who would get to go. And then Spain,
Speaker 6: I didn't get to go to either, but I did
Speaker 6: get to meet you in Spain.
Speaker 8: I Madrid, and we did a promo.
Speaker 3: The promo concert exactly. Do you remember how sick I was, Yes.
Speaker 6: But I remember it was at the very tail end
Speaker 6: of like the promotional window. Yes, very it was like
Speaker 6: a challenging time for everybody. But I even remember all
Speaker 6: the three of you after the party, like you're just
Speaker 6: sitting down just being so happy.
Speaker 8: And also being like that was really fun. I kind
Speaker 8: of wanted to do it again.
Speaker 6: As hard as it was, like right the heart into it,
Speaker 6: it was really hard, and you all, the three of
Speaker 6: you were such sisters like then you all, I mean,
Speaker 6: it was really fun. It was It's very infectious to
Speaker 6: be around the talent because every they're all friends, and
Speaker 6: then they're friends within the different like all the different
Speaker 6: shows and movies are often friends too because they've had
Speaker 6: to do international promos for three days together. We would
Speaker 6: get talent together to do that and that would be
Speaker 6: where you get to sort of interact with everybody all
Speaker 6: the time and and get to spend time. But even yeah,
Speaker 6: going to Utah for the High School Musical series recently
Speaker 6: was fabulous too because there was a lot of people
Speaker 6: we worked on the movie who were involved in the
Speaker 6: series too, and that was really special to see these people,
Speaker 6: you know, being able to come back again and work around.
Speaker 1: We just talked to Corwin blue like last week. So
Speaker 1: he was telling us just how wonderful it was. But wait,
Speaker 1: I have to jump in. I'm sorry, Sabrina, you've never
Speaker 1: told me about this. What you were sick when you
Speaker 1: were doing a concert?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had scarlet fever or something crazy.
Speaker 2: You were sick in eighteen seventy.
Speaker 4: No, it was like something. So we went to do
Speaker 4: a show.
Speaker 3: But we were in the midst of doing our tour
Speaker 3: and Disney Channel was expanding into Spain, right, that was
Speaker 3: what that was.
Speaker 8: For launching Spain.
Speaker 6: And this was part of a big relaunch party, okay,
Speaker 6: And they were the only talent that got to be
Speaker 6: brought over.
Speaker 3: There, I think, so I don't remember a lot of
Speaker 3: other talent that was there with us. And I actually
Speaker 3: had stayed home one day trying to get myself better.
Speaker 3: I went into a doctor. I had to get like
Speaker 3: a whole needle situation. It was like this whole thing
Speaker 3: to get me better, just to get me there. And
Speaker 3: then when I got there, then I got to see
Speaker 3: a doctor from Spain. He gave me whatever. I felt
Speaker 3: like a new sprung chicken. I was out there dancing
Speaker 3: like you would never have even known that I was sick.
Speaker 3: And then on my way home during that flight, I
Speaker 3: got my my I you know, was taking the medication,
Speaker 3: but still kind of got sick a little bit more.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was the adrenaline of just being there and when we
Speaker 3: had stuff like that with the Channel, you just knew
Speaker 3: these were once in a lifetime opportunities that it was
Speaker 3: such a big deal for us to be there. It
Speaker 3: was huge that the Channel was launching into Spain. It
Speaker 3: was huge for us because at that time, High School
Speaker 3: Musical had come out, I believe, and the Jonahs brothers
Speaker 3: were working, so we were the talent that they decided
Speaker 3: to go out there with and it was just a
Speaker 3: big opportunity. So I don't know really exactly if it
Speaker 3: was just the medication or if I was just like
Speaker 3: hyped on life that I didn't care. All I did
Speaker 3: to do was do my ten minute set and then
Speaker 3: I was good. But it was so fun, and that's
Speaker 3: what I was I loved is you could tell whenever
Speaker 3: you were around us that you were really seeing us
Speaker 3: as a cast and as a as a real life friendship,
Speaker 3: you know, and you were able to go do that
Speaker 3: with the High School musical casts and all the other
Speaker 3: the Hannah Montana casts and all of those other shows
Speaker 3: and just see one on one. Like how special those
Speaker 3: relationships became.
Speaker 8: Yeah, A lot of people talk about it as like school.
Speaker 6: It's like an alumni thing, like when they see somebody
Speaker 6: from that time, that era, you know, it feels like, oh,
Speaker 6: we went to school together, we have the same totally.
Speaker 1: We have that with the TGIF group. That was all
Speaker 1: this the same TGIF people, It's that same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I heard that about the TGIF because a Disney executive
Speaker 6: had worked during that era, and I remember being just
Speaker 6: as excited hearing about that era.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Okay with the list of people that
Speaker 1: we just named, which is insane. Is there someone out
Speaker 1: there that as you watch their career you feel a
Speaker 1: special kind of bond with, like I help that start,
Speaker 1: I helped find that person, or there's something special about
Speaker 1: that one individual.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean so much.
Speaker 6: Also is a group thing too, Like I got so
Speaker 6: much credit to a lot of the other executives at
Speaker 6: Disney Channel too.
Speaker 8: Like when I.
Speaker 6: Say so, I hate to take a complete proprietary sentence
Speaker 6: about it, but even right now, Sabrina Carpenter songs has been,
Speaker 6: like she said, two songs in the top ten lately,
Speaker 6: and that girl has worked so hard from so such
Speaker 6: a young age.
Speaker 8: She was someone we loved as an actress.
Speaker 4: Early on.
Speaker 6: She did a pilot for us and we loved her,
Speaker 6: and it was just the pilot didn't go and it's like,
Speaker 6: what was the next right thing?
Speaker 8: You know, what were we going to do with her?
Speaker 6: And she had a great voice too, I remember she
Speaker 6: had a voice, and she had just a sparkling fun
Speaker 6: at this personality that was awesome and you just really
Speaker 6: liked being around her.
Speaker 8: And she was really good actress too, And that's shit
Speaker 8: great people.
Speaker 6: Don't people think, oh, they're just like the acting is
Speaker 6: like nothing, it's all they only hire a bunch of singers.
Speaker 8: And it's like, no, no, no, no, we need you needed.
Speaker 6: To be an actor too, And that was really first,
Speaker 6: and then the music thing would end up happening naturally,
Speaker 6: very organically, naturally, unless you were auditioning for a music project.
Speaker 3: Did she by chance, Sabrina? Was she around in that
Speaker 3: area like to possibly audition for that same role?
Speaker 6: No, it's so interesting, I'm trying to remember if she
Speaker 6: auditioned for one of the other roles in Descendants because
Speaker 6: then she yeah, because she ended up doing Avengers and
Speaker 6: babysitting was Sophia.
Speaker 3: Cars That's where I met her at that premiere.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: She would have been too young for Descendants, wouldn't she
Speaker 2: just buy a bit?
Speaker 8: Exactly?
Speaker 6: But Zendek did audition many times for Descendants, and that
Speaker 6: was a big deal, Like, I mean a.
Speaker 8: Really big deal that she auditioned over and over.
Speaker 6: I mean she she really wanted it, and it just
Speaker 6: ended up not going her way. And you know, I'm
Speaker 6: sure now that I think about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: did she had Spiderman? Like would Spider Man have happened
Speaker 6: right at the same time? Because it really is true
Speaker 6: late things happen for a reason, and you do often
Speaker 6: book this other thing that's amazing when you don't get
Speaker 6: something else. But Zendaia definitely like put so much effort
Speaker 6: and so much work into it too. Wow, And it
Speaker 6: just it's one of those things that you're really you know,
Speaker 6: you you understand when people want these roles, like how
Speaker 6: important it is.
Speaker 1: Well that going back to what you said, though, that
Speaker 1: was exactly the thing that amazed me when I walked
Speaker 1: on the set of Groming's world.
Speaker 2: Was how funny Sabrina and Rowan both were. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was it.
Speaker 1: I knew that they could sing, and I knew Sabrina
Speaker 1: won't really wanted to be singing on all that stuff,
Speaker 1: but the comedy was there. And to me, again, I
Speaker 1: don't sing at all, but comedy is music and you
Speaker 1: could just.
Speaker 2: Tell they had the rhythm. So yeah, very very impressive.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I remember my audition process. I auditioned that Disney so
Speaker 3: many times before I ended up getting the Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 4: That back in the day was you'd come in with
Speaker 4: your script.
Speaker 3: Then you'd have your little cassette tape, your little karaoke
Speaker 3: tape that they'd put in a radio. You would sing
Speaker 3: and then they would turn on some random music and say, okay,
Speaker 3: now just just dance for us.
Speaker 4: So that's what that's what my audition was.
Speaker 3: I had my cassette tape, my things, and then I
Speaker 3: had shoes that I could move around on, and I would,
Speaker 3: you know, show off any little bit of tumbling I
Speaker 3: could do in that small room or whatever.
Speaker 4: What is the audition process for the channel now?
Speaker 3: Because I feel back then that was the beginning of
Speaker 3: music that really wasn't a big thing at that time,
Speaker 3: you know, auditioning for music stuff.
Speaker 4: What is it like now?
Speaker 3: Is there like a I see in my head there's
Speaker 3: like a baby grand piano, a whole orchestra. I just
Speaker 3: could see that it's gotta be a bigger deal than
Speaker 3: it was back when I was auditioning.
Speaker 8: Yeah, not always.
Speaker 6: I mean, some of it is you're sending them You're
Speaker 6: sending your singing portion in advance too often. That's like
Speaker 6: how even there's so much pretaping these days too, So
Speaker 6: you're sending here's my dance footage, like so people can
Speaker 6: see you full length and you can get the music there.
Speaker 6: And then oftentimes it's like as you go further, you
Speaker 6: are singing in the room, but sometimes just not even
Speaker 6: accompanied by anything, I mean, or you are bringing in
Speaker 6: your phone. You are bringing in your phone with like
Speaker 6: a backing track on there. But it just depends what
Speaker 6: it is, and it's often what the director, like, you know,
Speaker 6: are people comfortable enough to sign off on this person
Speaker 6: just based on that material? And sometimes the director will
Speaker 6: like an actor and the network will have a different opinion,
Speaker 6: and so the director really works with the talent to
Speaker 6: say like okay, let's make sure you're next.
Speaker 8: We're going to have a piano.
Speaker 6: There, We're going to have this this element here, so
Speaker 6: that we can really make sure the network understands like
Speaker 6: this is why you would be get like you are
Speaker 6: perfect for this role. So sometimes you do need to
Speaker 6: compliment it up. But it's not like in one way,
Speaker 6: it's still the basics, like it's wild, how it just
Speaker 6: really is, you know, that's all.
Speaker 8: You know. Getting a taste of you.
Speaker 6: Singing and dancing in the room is just like how
Speaker 6: it always has been to wow.
Speaker 8: Great, so cool.
Speaker 6: There's also for zombies, there's interesting there were auditions and
Speaker 6: I think they're also online too, where.
Speaker 8: They really went from room to room.
Speaker 6: It was almost like a screen test, but it was
Speaker 6: like done in an office building, not even done with
Speaker 6: that fancy of a camera, but it's like where you
Speaker 6: really they cut it and they made it much more,
Speaker 6: much more action throughout each of the different scenes to
Speaker 6: help get the actors Mila Manheim and macdonnelley signed off on.
Speaker 6: So sometimes you you know, the creatives have to like
Speaker 6: come up with different different ways to really get their
Speaker 6: talent sold too. And that process that worked with the
Speaker 6: casting directors work with too. And it's also fun when
Speaker 6: it changes it up too, because sitting in a room,
Speaker 6: you know, watching actor come in after you know, sometimes
Speaker 6: like you're like, even the best actor can come in
Speaker 6: after lunch. We just like if there's a moment after
Speaker 6: lunch where everybody's energy is just like low yep, Like
Speaker 6: you're like, it's not a great thing for the actor
Speaker 6: at times, like some moments or you're like, oh, it
Speaker 6: wakes it up when you're like, well there's some talent
Speaker 6: that we really love because I just suddenly got so
Speaker 6: much more awake.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: I remember that as an actor where it's like an
Speaker 1: audition would come through and they'd be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: have the four forty five on Friday slot, Like oh,
Speaker 1: you're like.
Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome. What's the point of even going to that.
Speaker 3: You bring in that's when you bring in Starbucks to
Speaker 3: the actual audition. Hey, just giving you guys a pickup
Speaker 3: before I go ahead and do.
Speaker 2: My series an shot.
Speaker 1: When you think back, is there an audition for anybody
Speaker 1: that stands out for you where you just instantly goes in.
Speaker 2: Your head like, oh man, that was a great audition.
Speaker 6: I mean, there are so many, so many good auditions too,
Speaker 6: because I do remember Miley's like just being amazing, Like
Speaker 6: this girl just shed she had it all. She was charming,
Speaker 6: she was witty. She was also really comfortable talking to
Speaker 6: all the executives. Oftentimes, when you're in a room with
Speaker 6: ten twelve people sitting around a really long boardroom table,
Speaker 6: it's uncomfortable, especially if you're eleven, twelve.
Speaker 8: Thirteen years old.
Speaker 6: Sure you know, and when an actor is comfortable with
Speaker 6: it and can sort of like make jokes about it,
Speaker 6: like that always helps. I mean that always really helps,
Speaker 6: and it can help sell the person on the project too.
Speaker 6: And it was also funny auditioning. We auditioned her dad
Speaker 6: to be her dad, but we had also auditioned some
Speaker 6: other people. We were testing, like another person to who
Speaker 6: was very different and the other person had tons of
Speaker 6: comedy experience, like they were exactly how the role was
Speaker 6: written and everything, but it's like nothing can release the
Speaker 6: chemistry that they and it was really even for that.
Speaker 6: I think part of it was the musical part of
Speaker 6: the audition. I remember that part really shining too, like
Speaker 6: that you're like the musical chemistry they have, even though
Speaker 6: technically the role was written as her manager, So it
Speaker 6: wasn't necessarily like they were doing music to get Yeah,
Speaker 6: there's so much in the episode like that wasn't every
Speaker 6: episode wasn't going to be a huge daughter and dad thing.
Speaker 8: But just even seeing that in that room, it was like,
Speaker 8: we'd be great active this way.
Speaker 4: Did he play while she sang? Or what was that
Speaker 4: like exactly?
Speaker 1: He played?
Speaker 2: H yeah, wow, how do you beat that? That's so cool?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you just and then chemistry, I mean Zach
Speaker 6: and Vanessa, like you can just see the tapes on
Speaker 6: YouTube too, it's like the chemistry is there.
Speaker 2: It was just there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that Michael Healy told us that. He
Speaker 3: said that chemistry between them was just stand out. It
Speaker 3: was you know, they knew it was going to be
Speaker 3: amazing on film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was. I had never seen high school Musical.
Speaker 1: As the last person in the world to never see it,
Speaker 1: I saw it two three weeks ago, whatever it was,
Speaker 1: And even as an adult watching it, you just you
Speaker 1: saw it. I mean you saw that they had it.
Speaker 1: It was it was there there, you were, they're engaging,
Speaker 1: you were all in and so yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was if you had half of that in the room,
Speaker 1: how do you not cast them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were so great.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to fight for anybody that you
Speaker 1: knew was right for the part that they were just noe,
Speaker 1: We're going to go another way and you were like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is you're going the wrong direction.
Speaker 6: I mean there's always people, even Olivia Rodrigue for this
Speaker 6: series High School Musical, she wasn't the just the I
Speaker 6: mean there was a lot of deliberation just I don't
Speaker 6: even remember who if it was anybody who it was,
Speaker 6: but it wasn't just cast her in the room moment too,
Speaker 6: And I remember having a lot of conversations about her
Speaker 6: and what I felt like, you know, what her strong
Speaker 6: suits were for this, And yeah, I mean there's you
Speaker 6: fight for a lot of people in casting too, It's definitely,
Speaker 6: and you have to help sometimes segue with the director.
Speaker 8: But you know between that the creative team and the net.
Speaker 6: You know you may have you have may be aligned
Speaker 6: with the creative team, but that even the other people
Speaker 6: the network may not even be aligned with it. So
Speaker 6: it's like coming together, get everybody together is definitely a
Speaker 6: really a skill you need is and also but being
Speaker 6: able to share your opinion, like what your opinion is
Speaker 6: too without without saying you know, okay, I have to
Speaker 6: cave to what everybody else says at the Networkers Studio,
Speaker 6: like you won't want to be able to fight for
Speaker 6: people and go, okay, it's all right if the project
Speaker 6: goes another direction, but we'll work through it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you probably too also are experience seing like I know,
Speaker 3: I've come to an audition before and walk out.
Speaker 4: I auditioned for the High.
Speaker 3: School Musical Series, and I remember going up and going
Speaker 3: up to that floor. Is it still the twenty first floor? Yes,
Speaker 3: and getting that those stomach cramps, but oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And I remember getting off the elevator as Christy Carlson.
Speaker 4: Romano was getting on. I was like, damn it.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, and I had met Christy multiple times. She
Speaker 3: was so sweet, But it was like I knew that
Speaker 3: that role I was going for. They were probably looking
Speaker 3: at quite a few Disney alums, you know, and like
Speaker 3: having all of that, with all these different relationships that
Speaker 3: you have with all these different actors, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to find the right one for that part has got
Speaker 3: to be something that you go through quite a bit.
Speaker 4: With all the new projects that happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, definitely. And it's so interesting now with a
Speaker 6: lot of auditions start on zoom. I mean, in one way,
Speaker 6: you don't have that waiting room thing where you would
Speaker 6: like you see your competition and you can really make
Speaker 6: your start your stories going going, why this role feels
Speaker 6: like it's more that person but at the same time
Speaker 6: or is it just more nerve wracking sitting behind a
Speaker 6: computer without anybody to talk to, just waiting until they're like,
Speaker 6: you're up, You're next, right.
Speaker 3: I would assume too, because I think as an actor
Speaker 3: will tell me if this is how it felt like,
Speaker 3: you could walk into a room and then when you walk.
Speaker 4: Out, you go, wow, that vibe was so good. I
Speaker 4: connect like the be able to connect.
Speaker 3: In person versus I would say, think it would be
Speaker 3: hard to feel that through a computer, you know, hard
Speaker 3: to feel. Oh, so those producers seemed that's I think
Speaker 3: I did exactly what they were asking for. They were
Speaker 3: looking for something like I can give them, I would
Speaker 3: assume on zoom for the actor they don't want they
Speaker 3: walk away going mmm, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you'd want that.
Speaker 1: I mean you wanted that the anxious was part of
Speaker 1: the vibe you wanted to sit there and have those
Speaker 1: because you were ready to perform.
Speaker 2: I also loved looking at.
Speaker 1: The other people in the room, going Okay, I'm better
Speaker 1: than all these people. I wasn't, but you've got to
Speaker 1: have that mindset where you're like, I'm going to stand out.
Speaker 2: I'm better than everybody here. I can't wait to do this.
Speaker 1: And so I mean again, I have an audition for
Speaker 1: anything in fifteen years, so I haven't had to do
Speaker 1: a Zoom audition.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know, but that kind of you wanted that.
Speaker 1: The ultimate for an actor for an audition was you
Speaker 1: would walk in, you'd connect, you'd kill it, and as
Speaker 1: you were walking out, the casting director would follow you
Speaker 1: and say, excuse me, excuse.
Speaker 2: Me, can you come back in?
Speaker 1: We want to And they do that in front of
Speaker 1: the rest of the room, and you were like, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for. So that was just the
Speaker 1: best feeling in the world. And it's a shame that
Speaker 1: they don't have that anymore. You don't get that on Zoom.
Speaker 8: No, it's so true.
Speaker 6: We've had a casting director follow somebody and the person
Speaker 6: like had started to go to the Burbank Airport already
Speaker 6: and it was like like no, no, no, no, we really
Speaker 6: need you, and the actors did not know that you
Speaker 6: should sometimes like wait like like that they might call
Speaker 6: you back in a second. I mean it was literally
Speaker 6: following them like by the footsteps and just missed them
Speaker 6: at the elevator.
Speaker 2: It's the best. I love that so much.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So while you were also at the Channel, you witnessed
Speaker 1: kind of the birth of this the new vibe of
Speaker 1: not just the Channel, but what's going on in a
Speaker 1: lot of Hollywood, which is kind of the dawn of
Speaker 1: the rebirth. Yes, so, I mean we've got you know,
Speaker 1: boy Mets World that's so raven, high school musical TV.
Speaker 2: Now they're all in on Wizards of Waverley Place.
Speaker 1: How how did you feel about kind of the direction
Speaker 1: of the channel rebooting a whole bunch of different things.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, some reboots just across the board, like
Speaker 6: from any any place, can be amazing too, and they
Speaker 6: can feel completely different. I mean, I think there's always
Speaker 6: a little sadness because you just they're only going with
Speaker 6: the hits usually, you know, and they have a certain cast,
Speaker 6: and it's also like that's how my eye see it,
Speaker 6: Like I only can see it that way too, So
Speaker 6: I think sometimes it's very hard, but then sometimes reboots
Speaker 6: are great. I mean, like they're just different and it's
Speaker 6: like it's almost like, yeah, sure it has a similar title,
Speaker 6: but it's a completely different show, and that's always lovely
Speaker 6: when it has yeah, because like that's a Raven's Home
Speaker 6: and that's a Raven and just I mean there were
Speaker 6: but they're different shows. They're just completely different shows overall too.
Speaker 6: And the same girl I mean girl meets World and
Speaker 6: boy meets We. I mean there definitely feels like it
Speaker 6: was like these were natural different shows over all. They
Speaker 6: happen to have titles which help people on streaming service
Speaker 6: is say I want to tune in because the title.
Speaker 3: Is familiar, right, And how is it for you watching
Speaker 3: something like with Raven's Home.
Speaker 4: I mean, she did it on that so Raven, I know.
Speaker 3: She she got more involved in the behind the scenes work.
Speaker 3: But now what she's doing and able to be a
Speaker 3: part of with Raven's Home, is how is that for
Speaker 3: you to watch an actor? You know them when they're younger,
Speaker 3: when they're building, and then they're coming back and coming
Speaker 3: in as more of an adult and a more of
Speaker 3: like a different hat on right than just coming as
Speaker 3: a child actor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that was one of the things that
Speaker 6: I was really amazing to watch that Disney Channel would
Speaker 6: give a lot of actors like it would be something
Speaker 6: it's a deal point. It's like to be able to
Speaker 6: direct an episode or write an episode, or be in
Speaker 6: the writer's room, and we really wanted to give people
Speaker 6: opportunities to grow their career, to look at it in
Speaker 6: a different way, to see, you know, see what it
Speaker 6: is on the to be on the other side of
Speaker 6: the camera. Even animated, We've done tours with the animation team.
Speaker 6: We've had talents say I have more interested in animation,
Speaker 6: even saying let's get them more voiceover opportunities, or even
Speaker 6: just like ghosts, sit and look at what the animators do,
Speaker 6: like get a reel behind the scenes, look at it,
Speaker 6: because those opportunities are really important. And that was really
Speaker 6: exciting to watch overall too, Like Mos Beyond the Suite Life,
Speaker 6: I mean, he directs, He directs all these major TV
Speaker 6: shows all the time. Phil Lowis, Phil Lewis liked or
Speaker 6: directs constantly and like it's the credits are amazing and
Speaker 6: I'm sure one of the first opportunities.
Speaker 8: I mean, I actually don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know if we gave I would think we did,
Speaker 6: but I don't actually for sure know that. But it's
Speaker 6: really amazing to be able to give people that opportunity
Speaker 6: and to learn a bit more to and have, you know,
Speaker 6: and have those mentors from the other executive producers that
Speaker 6: are there too, to have them really guide them too,
Speaker 6: because even coming in as an executive producer, it's not
Speaker 6: like you know everything right right, you have visions and
Speaker 6: maybe you're like Zenda definitely had tons of amazing ideas
Speaker 6: when she Casey undercovers a producer, like tons of like
Speaker 6: ideas all the time. But at the same time, yeah,
Speaker 6: she needed the producers to like Rob was her producer,
Speaker 6: and that was amazingly helpful, like to see it like, Okay,
Speaker 6: now I learned this stuff too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's what we did on gromy Throll.
Speaker 1: I mean, Danielle Fischle got her start directing, Ryder Strong
Speaker 1: got to start directing, I got to write episodes. I
Speaker 1: mean that was like part of the deal to get
Speaker 1: us to come back. And it's hugely helpful. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a great way to learn and you're learning
Speaker 1: in an environment where, like you said, you you already
Speaker 1: know a lot of the people around you, so you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable to take the next step and make mistakes.
Speaker 2: And do what you have to do.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the channel was great at nurturing that kind
Speaker 1: of talent, which was was a ton of fun.
Speaker 2: So we appreciate it, which is which is nice.
Speaker 3: A few there's a few of the names like Mitchell Musso,
Speaker 3: Jason Dollie, Brenda's song. They seems we call them kind
Speaker 3: of the dcom Royalty because they've all been in a
Speaker 3: quite a multiple of projects. Coms did that when it
Speaker 3: came to that, do you remember was it easy to go, oh,
Speaker 3: this is obviously Brenda song, We've got to give this
Speaker 3: to her or Jason or was it was it?
Speaker 4: Did it make it easier or did it make it
Speaker 4: kind of harder to do well?
Speaker 6: I mean, Wendy wo Hop like that one was hands
Speaker 6: down like this is this is a.
Speaker 8: Role for Brenda too. And then Mitchell Mussa was acting
Speaker 8: a lot like he'd auditioned a ton before he got
Speaker 8: handed in Montana, and he'd worked a lot too, and
Speaker 8: Jason had worked he did been on a network sitcom
Speaker 8: too before that, So oftentimes they are sometimes they're coming
Speaker 8: in and auditioning for a project for the second time
Speaker 8: for us, and then sometimes they are just offered it.
Speaker 8: It just depends what it is. Or sometimes they come.
Speaker 6: In and do a meeting with the director and the
Speaker 6: creative team instead of actually auditioning about the role. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes it's easy, and sometimes it's also like
Speaker 6: the kit Chircher had a different you know, like we
Speaker 6: just had a different vision for it, and then some
Speaker 6: play that we this brilliant idea, Oh these people. The
Speaker 6: series wraps like earlier than we thought it did, like
Speaker 6: the timing, because you really a lot of the time
Speaker 6: the series and the movie people were competing for talent,
Speaker 6: I mean, or.
Speaker 8: Hollywood records, like Miley, Like we wanted Miley.
Speaker 6: In a d com, but we a she would tour
Speaker 6: every like right after the series would wrap, she would
Speaker 6: go on these tours, and so then it was hard
Speaker 6: and we needed we just wanted to keep her looking
Speaker 6: as much like she was looking before, you know, not
Speaker 6: to suddenly come back as a twenty five year old,
Speaker 6: and so it would be hard to like slot in
Speaker 6: a movie at the same time as a well while
Speaker 6: doing a tour too, and you have to have the
Speaker 6: right You just can't say, you know, here's a story
Speaker 6: about a young girl, let's put Miley in it, like
Speaker 6: you want it to work for her, to work for
Speaker 6: like her overall career trajectory too, so right, that's always
Speaker 6: really important too.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, and it just depends, like it's
Speaker 8: funny Jason Dolly and I wish I had come with
Speaker 8: the story that I just there.
Speaker 6: He ended up getting minute Man because like somebody was sick,
Speaker 6: like the night before that they told us. I remember being
Speaker 6: a Friday night late and like getting him this information like.
Speaker 8: Faxing still I was like faxing something.
Speaker 6: Like it was like for some reason I had to
Speaker 6: fax some like legal document too, which but like yeah,
Speaker 6: and it was a big deal to he got that.
Speaker 6: And then it really sort of like everything kind of
Speaker 6: even trickled more from them, even though we'd known him
Speaker 6: and he'd auditioned for us before and we've seen him
Speaker 6: and other stuff too, like he'd done other stuff. It
Speaker 6: was just suddenly like that movie v Ben then good
Speaker 6: Luck Charlie, it became even it was all around the
Speaker 6: same time.
Speaker 8: Too often somebody does.
Speaker 6: A pilot for us, whether the pilot goes or not.
Speaker 6: We just fall in love with the actor and say
Speaker 6: put them in this movie. I mean, that's the quick
Speaker 6: thing is like we would fall in love with it.
Speaker 6: It's with actors. And also it's not easy. I mean
Speaker 6: people think like, oh, it's so easy to find a
Speaker 6: million great child stars.
Speaker 8: It's not.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of optioning to it. There's a lot
Speaker 6: of creativity put into it.
Speaker 3: And you guys have to suffered through a lot of
Speaker 3: bad auditions before time, like the Gems. I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: just I mean, but at the same time, your guys'
Speaker 3: record of finding those incredible child actors is just unreal.
Speaker 4: And we when we did got to Kick it Up.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's America Ferrera and we did it right
Speaker 3: around you know, obviously Barbie's just come out. She's done
Speaker 3: so much but between then and now, but you know,
Speaker 3: she wasn't put in a Gotta Kick It Up, you know,
Speaker 3: just a one off movie. Never nothing happened after it.
Speaker 3: But she definitely was, you know, put out there and
Speaker 3: did great.
Speaker 6: And a funny personal story to me is the reason
Speaker 6: I got my job at Disney Channel is my friend
Speaker 6: Megan was an executive there. She was a creative executive
Speaker 6: on the animation side, but Disney had a program at
Speaker 6: that time where executives assistance. They could all come in
Speaker 6: and like sell pitching an idea for a story. And
Speaker 6: my friend Megan Teach for America, so she was the
Speaker 6: one like the story was created from.
Speaker 8: It was like her story that she ended up Oh
Speaker 8: cool for that movie. And even I was like, yeah, everybody,
Speaker 8: just it's a different It's just so exciting that Disney
Speaker 8: gave those opportunities there too.
Speaker 1: Yes, now absolutely, speaking of opportunities, can you tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit do you remember a young Sabrina Brian
Speaker 1: coming in and auditioning.
Speaker 8: I wasn't there when girls? Oh no, I know, I know.
Speaker 8: I wish I was too, but I wasn't there at
Speaker 8: that time too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was a good amount of time between
Speaker 3: the first and the second one. There was a couple
Speaker 3: of years before. I mean we filmed into two thousand
Speaker 3: and two. The movie came out in two thousand and three,
Speaker 3: and then it wasn't until the following year that we
Speaker 3: did a Christmas album, which was was it with Hollywood Records?
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, Walt Disney Records.
Speaker 4: It was Walt Disney Records. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: And you know, we went out on tour and it
Speaker 3: was like it wasn't until after a while that they
Speaker 3: were even talking about doing a second one, so that
Speaker 3: at that point somewhere in between, right, you were around
Speaker 3: by the second one, so it was somewhere in between.
Speaker 6: I remember when it was suddenly like we're bringing the
Speaker 6: cheat because it had been a while too and it
Speaker 6: made a lot of sense. And I think also the
Speaker 6: music thing was really starting to connect on air two
Speaker 6: and everybody thought.
Speaker 8: Well, and Raven had off because her show had ended.
Speaker 6: She was doing studio like stuff for the Features at
Speaker 6: Disney Features or the free Form show. So even that
Speaker 6: there was like this moment of like is it all
Speaker 6: going to work out with Cheetah Girls? And everybody's like,
Speaker 6: let's try to make another Cheatah Girls, And suddenly it
Speaker 6: was like going to Spain.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was so exciting.
Speaker 6: And then Kenny and we also got in because Kenny
Speaker 6: did both of them, right, yeah, two.
Speaker 3: And Kenny Kenny only did two the second one. Paul Hohen,
Speaker 3: who does the the does zombies, did three.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he does more than that. He's probably directed like
Speaker 6: five movies. You should interview.
Speaker 4: Pass We definitely again, Paul, for sure.
Speaker 8: But I now remember and then it was like, You're
Speaker 8: going to India, and I just.
Speaker 6: Felt like we were going to be going around the
Speaker 6: world with the Cheetah girls for a while and it
Speaker 6: was such an exciting time to.
Speaker 8: Be complating these big movies.
Speaker 3: Suddenly, Yes, I think we talked to you and Gary
Speaker 3: Marsh at some point and we're like, can we go
Speaker 3: to Tokyo?
Speaker 4: That sounds awesome? Cheetas in Tokyo? Gary, doesn't that sound anything?
Speaker 3: Just at that point, we're just trying to figure out
Speaker 3: where can we film in the world because this is
Speaker 3: just the best job, and.
Speaker 2: Just keep it going. I just want to keep it going.
Speaker 3: Feeling what would be the reasons that cheetahn't need to
Speaker 3: go down to Australia.
Speaker 4: Don't know, but let's figure it out. There's got to
Speaker 4: be a musical vestival.
Speaker 2: Not do Cheetahs down under? Come on?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: So, So here's a question that we we loved.
Speaker 1: We've only had one or two people from the other
Speaker 1: side of the channel on, but a question we love
Speaker 1: to ask is is there a project that you loved
Speaker 1: that you thought was going to be big and just
Speaker 1: att never took off.
Speaker 6: Well it's and I don't know about Big prom Packed,
Speaker 6: which came out a year ago, was we loved.
Speaker 8: Loved it.
Speaker 6: It's so good, so cute between those two is there's
Speaker 6: so much good casting around all all of them too.
Speaker 4: The music.
Speaker 8: There's so much fun in that movie.
Speaker 6: And I I kept thinking, am I looking at it
Speaker 6: through my eighties eyes?
Speaker 8: Like eyes because I love an eighties movie? Was No,
Speaker 8: and I watch it. Everybody was like, it's a great movie,
Speaker 8: and I don't think.
Speaker 6: I think because it was Disney plus and everybody's sort
Speaker 6: of like, where are we watching.
Speaker 8: Exactly?
Speaker 6: And it was a little bit edgier than the Channel
Speaker 6: movies that were directly premiering on the channel.
Speaker 8: But right away it was.
Speaker 6: Just I mean, I thought it was such a well
Speaker 6: done movie and so many so many It had comedy,
Speaker 6: it had love, it had everything. So that was a
Speaker 6: disappointment for sure too. And even the Kim Possible we boot,
Speaker 6: I mean, it was definitely something fun to work on,
Speaker 6: and it was exciting like on all sorts of different elements,
Speaker 6: and the storyline was great, like it really felt like, Okay,
Speaker 6: this could be a natural transition something that people.
Speaker 2: Love as somebody who was on the original Kim Possible.
Speaker 8: Well I wasn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't know who it was for, right, And that's
Speaker 9: what that's so interesting that you say that, So you
Speaker 9: didn't really that her storyline, the storyline.
Speaker 8: For her wasn't really like this.
Speaker 6: I would think the young teen girls, gymnastic teen girl.
Speaker 6: I was like, they should be into it. Like that's
Speaker 6: where I really felt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I more met like the audience, the original Kim
Speaker 1: Possible audience would want to see the cartoon rebooted, right,
Speaker 1: and the new audience I don't think connected with the characters.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of didn't know who it was
Speaker 2: supposed to be for.
Speaker 6: And that goes back to it's like it's just another movie,
Speaker 6: you know, like it's a movie with the title that
Speaker 6: you hope that somebody else.
Speaker 8: Was like, it's impossible, I've never heard of it.
Speaker 6: Sounds it's a great movie. You just hope, right, just
Speaker 6: be into it. But yeah, they would just be into
Speaker 6: it from that way too. And I think doing animation,
Speaker 6: animation to animated.
Speaker 8: To live action, I think is definitely a.
Speaker 6: Challenge, Like there absolutely a spond in those projects that
Speaker 6: may not be able to like really honor the original
Speaker 6: fan base in the same way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So for the last question we have for you is,
Speaker 1: and it kind of goes along with what we've we've
Speaker 1: been talking about a little bit, which is with the
Speaker 1: proliferation of streaming with Disney Plus and Hulu and everything
Speaker 1: growing the way it is, with kids just being different
Speaker 1: and the way they're watching everything being different, the entire
Speaker 1: industry being different, what do you think the future of
Speaker 1: dcoms is?
Speaker 2: And do you think the dcom is here to stay?
Speaker 6: I mean, one would hope the dcom is here to say,
Speaker 6: because there's always going to be kids who need kids content,
Speaker 6: and as we all know, social media like places are
Speaker 6: moving it up to sixteen too. We know that that
Speaker 6: is not you know, it's not always the healthiest place
Speaker 6: to be too. But I just think really the distribution
Speaker 6: method is that's where wrap how or how is this
Speaker 6: getting distributed to to kids and families overall. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I think there's always going to be times and I
Speaker 6: mean I didn't have d coms when I was growing up,
Speaker 6: but even just all these corny family movies that hold
Speaker 6: in my heart this place, like there was one called
Speaker 6: Savenger Hunt I'm sure nobody's ever heard of it.
Speaker 2: Scavenger Hut's a great movie.
Speaker 4: Was it on Disney No, But they.
Speaker 8: Just loved it. I mean it was something I loved.
Speaker 2: It was like Explorers for me. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's like you just hope that there is
Speaker 8: a space.
Speaker 6: It's like, but how are we getting this to the
Speaker 6: audience is the biggest challenge right now too.
Speaker 8: And I think this streamer, I think you also don't
Speaker 8: have the same.
Speaker 6: Disney Plus had so much going for it from nat
Speaker 6: Gio content, you know, all the Marvel content, and it's
Speaker 6: like they don't even have We had such a beautiful
Speaker 6: promotional window on the channel because the channel didn't have commercials,
Speaker 6: so there were so many promos and and promos that
Speaker 6: like they were just commercials that were very personal to
Speaker 6: the audience where you got to know the actor and
Speaker 6: you got to hear about the actor personally or like
Speaker 6: maybe go back to their home town and talk to them.
Speaker 6: And like, you just don't have that same opportunity to
Speaker 6: promote to people. It's just like you hope they find
Speaker 6: it on a tile.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do.
Speaker 3: I do feel that Disney Plus has, at least for
Speaker 3: the next generation that might you know back when I
Speaker 3: when The Cheetah Girls came out, and when I was
Speaker 3: auditioning a lot, there was a d com every month
Speaker 3: it came out, and you knew whatever day it was
Speaker 3: that they would premiere, like that's what you did, you
Speaker 3: got home after school, that movie's coming out and then
Speaker 3: it replayed a bunch. So now they don't have that
Speaker 3: as much. But on Disney Plus, it's actually you can
Speaker 3: at least find them and once you and Will and
Speaker 3: I both know this because that's how we rewatch them.
Speaker 3: Once you look for one of these d coms, they
Speaker 3: all start popping up on the suggestion box. And now
Speaker 3: now they're there, which is great that I feel like
Speaker 3: they'll watch a movie like Descendants, right or Zombies and
Speaker 3: then now then they'll get a high school musical one,
Speaker 3: or they'll get a Cheetah Girls, or they'll.
Speaker 2: Get the thirteenth Year will pop up on nowhere something.
Speaker 4: And random ones.
Speaker 3: They'll get these these ones that are older and it's
Speaker 3: like a new generation. I know we've talked to We
Speaker 3: got a chance to talk to Brandon Baker from Johnny
Speaker 3: Tsunami and you know, he he's felt it and he's
Speaker 3: been out of the business for a while and he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: but I definitely feel it from the fans. The new
Speaker 3: generation is somehow finding it on Disney Plus, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: You know, those are such great, awesome classic ones for
Speaker 3: people to be able to see.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad to hear that it is that algorithm
Speaker 6: is working to the benefit, because you would hate to
Speaker 6: be like my show starts with the letter like S
Speaker 6: and I'm like, you know, it's like and you're like,
Speaker 6: nobody's gonna see like they're gonna go to all other
Speaker 6: ones first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 8: It's good to hear.
Speaker 3: I have to ask you, what's been your favorite franchise
Speaker 3: or movie or show. What's the one that you just
Speaker 3: feel like that's your heart right there.
Speaker 8: I mean, like for Hannah.
Speaker 6: Montana, I had such a soft stop because it was
Speaker 6: just day one and we heard and we're traveling all.
Speaker 8: Over the place.
Speaker 6: She was young, she was she was fun, I mean,
Speaker 6: and Disney Channel games even from seeing her like performed
Speaker 6: down in Orlando early on, so there was like, for me,
Speaker 6: a lot of connection for that and she would just
Speaker 6: be like can you believe, like like amazed at like
Speaker 6: other pop stars, like she really had no idea that
Speaker 6: she might get in that same level, Like, I mean
Speaker 6: there and there was such a pure innocence to it
Speaker 6: and like a fun Like, God, wouldn't that be fun
Speaker 6: if I was as famous as Britney Spears. But that's
Speaker 6: never gonna happen, Like she just didn't really even think
Speaker 6: it too, and so like I had a lot of
Speaker 6: connection with her. Watching High School Musical Reboot is amazing too.
Speaker 6: I mean there's so many and Lemonade Mouth, which we
Speaker 6: didn't talk about. I like wish we did a sequel.
Speaker 1: I mean there were so many nuggets, which is what
Speaker 1: we just watched it, and I said, I personally believed
Speaker 1: because I am not a fan of musicals.
Speaker 2: I'm famously not a fan of musicals.
Speaker 1: I personally believe it was the best music, right of
Speaker 1: any of the movies that I saw.
Speaker 3: That music was so amazing, Cornelia. I was like, who
Speaker 3: are producers working on this? This is like incredible, Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, so good.
Speaker 8: I read it.
Speaker 6: I met a person who was on an NBC comedy
Speaker 6: and he's like, we play this on Breakthrough.
Speaker 8: It's got your breakthrough.
Speaker 6: He's like, when we would have it, they would like
Speaker 6: play this music from it to like get going and everything.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: It really was so good.
Speaker 3: And there was talks right because we did talk about
Speaker 3: this in our review. There was talks about possibly doing
Speaker 3: a sequel and then it ended up not going through that. Yeah. Crazy,
Speaker 3: great cast too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everybody was awesome. Well, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us. I have to tell you I have
Speaker 1: three more pages of questions for you. So is there
Speaker 1: any chance you can come back and join us again
Speaker 1: to give us some more background stuff.
Speaker 8: And I might be able to make my schedule available.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Good, because this has been so cool.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us and again pulling
Speaker 1: the curtain back just a little bit on on getting
Speaker 1: the deco. I'm done and finding this incredible talent. And
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Hollywood nowadays and it's littered
Speaker 1: with Disney kids. I mean it really is. They're taking
Speaker 1: over the world. And it's because when you're talented, you're talented.
Speaker 1: But somebody's got to find that talent. And so we're
Speaker 1: so glad that you were there.
Speaker 3: Also supported you were always somebody who was an advocate
Speaker 3: for us, and I just want to take the second
Speaker 3: to thank you because there's times where I know we
Speaker 3: were trying to edge it up a little bit and
Speaker 3: standards and practices were like that skirt, edge it up,
Speaker 3: but it has to be at your ankle, you know,
Speaker 3: and we.
Speaker 4: Would be like, Cornelia, help us.
Speaker 3: And you always were such an amazing advocate for us
Speaker 3: as actors, and like realizing that everyone was going for
Speaker 3: the same goal, we wanted the best of the best,
Speaker 3: you know, So thank you so much. There was so
Speaker 3: many times I know you were sticking up for us
Speaker 3: and being our mouth for you know, our ideas and
Speaker 3: hopes and stuff. So thank you so much for all
Speaker 3: your hard work because I know you do it for
Speaker 3: so many of the kids on the channel as well.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 6: That means so much, it really really does, because that
Speaker 6: was the best and you know the part of the
Speaker 6: job being there and being able to understand what you
Speaker 6: were going through.
Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you. It was so good to see you.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. And we're calling you again because
Speaker 2: we didn't even get to some of the bigger one.
Speaker 4: I know we need to get the half of them.
Speaker 2: I've got so much more to ask.
Speaker 8: Great great to see you both you too, Thank.
Speaker 4: You, Elia, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: I have three more pages of I know, we didn't
Speaker 1: talk about cow Bells, we didn't talk about teen Beach Movie.
Speaker 2: We didn't There's so much left that I want to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: She was a part of so many of them, so
Speaker 3: many and really everyone knew Cornelia everyone day.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is you talk about.
Speaker 1: This is where I think Disney Channel does not get
Speaker 1: its due, is because you talk about some of the
Speaker 1: best casting directors in the history of Hollywood, literally in
Speaker 1: the history of Hollywood. And I bet you nobody is
Speaker 1: going to put the Disney Channel casting directors on that list.
Speaker 1: And when you list the people like the like Austin Butler,
Speaker 1: end Zin Day, one after another, they were found by
Speaker 1: the Disney Channel. They were found by these casting directors
Speaker 1: who have I mean, you look at Hollywood nowadays. Some
Speaker 1: of the biggest stars in Hollywood started on the Disney
Speaker 1: Channel because of these casting directors.
Speaker 2: And they never get their due, they really don't.
Speaker 3: And I think too, what's also important is you know she,
Speaker 3: like she said with Austin, he came in auditioned and
Speaker 3: it was the job of being smart about what is
Speaker 3: the perfect role for them, Yeah, to take off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not just throwing them some random role like she said
Speaker 3: with Hannah Montana, we just want to give her some
Speaker 3: young girl character.
Speaker 4: It needed to make sense. It needed to be.
Speaker 3: Something that was gonna either push her or help build that.
Speaker 3: They cared about building the platform for their artists, their
Speaker 3: actors that were on their channel.
Speaker 4: That was a huge part for them.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just oh, she's adorable and she's cute, so
Speaker 3: just you know, yea fabering this movie.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that in that or whatever. No, it
Speaker 4: so so strategic.
Speaker 1: It was, but it was also I love what she said,
Speaker 1: and you saw it time and time again on the
Speaker 1: channel where its oh no, I know that person isn't
Speaker 1: right for this part, but they're gonna be at the
Speaker 1: top of the list and we're gonna find something for them.
Speaker 1: Like just what you were saying where it was like
Speaker 1: there's so many casting directors in Hollywood where you go in,
Speaker 1: you read, you never know, even if you're good, you
Speaker 1: never see them again, and then you book something and
Speaker 1: you get big and then they come back to you
Speaker 1: like oh I.
Speaker 2: Remember, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But Disney Channel it was no, we're gonna try in
Speaker 1: this now you're not right for this one. We're gonna
Speaker 1: try in this. Now you're not right for this one.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try in this totally.
Speaker 2: Then they find the people.
Speaker 1: I mean again, we went through these lists of Miley Cyrus,
Speaker 1: Demi Levado, Zach Effron, Austin Butler, Jenna Ortega, the Jonas Brothers,
Speaker 1: Sabena Carpenter.
Speaker 2: It is one banger after another wild and that the
Speaker 2: list I just read runs Hollywood. Essentially, these are fall
Speaker 2: Disney Channel kids.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, she is just a font of knowledge and
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to have her back.
Speaker 2: It's totally cool.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you all so much for joining us on
Speaker 1: this awesomely eye opening episode of Magical. Rewind our park
Speaker 1: Opper episode and join us next time, because I think
Speaker 1: the movie that we're watching is Camp Rock, Camp Rock.
Speaker 1: Let's I think about camp and I guess there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some rock and I'm very excited.
Speaker 4: Lots of hair we're going to be We've got lots
Speaker 4: of hair going again.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm in. I'm in all the way swing swing
Speaker 2: hairs happening. I love that.
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for joining us, and please join
Speaker 1: us next time.
Speaker 2: Bye everybody, Bye,