1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,640 Speaker 1: Let's see here. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: Hello, It's Jason Brown from The Fred Show, and I 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: am so excited to talk to I'm Aline today. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: How are you, girl? 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Good to be here. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Well, I I was guessing you up before we started here, 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: but I am so obsessed with you, obviously. I think, 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: like a lot of people, the first song I ever 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: heard from you was a couple of years ago Cinderella's Dad, 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: and everyone was like, yeah, it's so viral, it's so 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: like the writing is so good. But I was like, no, 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: my girl can sing. Like your voice is nuts. So like, 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: as I was like following you through and then I 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: finally heard Emotional Virgin, I was like, I have to 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: talk to her, because like you're like blowing up and 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: you're about to be huge, and like I need to 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: get on the bandwagon now and like talk to you 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: so like your music is so good, your writing is 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: so good. I love your vibe right now that is 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: so eighties, and I want to get into Emotional Virgin 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: and everything that you have out right now and what's 23 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: coming up. But for people that maybe haven't heard of 24 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: you don't know the face to the name, what made 25 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: you sort of start music. 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: I have always been a musician since I was like 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: a four year old. I just like have been fascinated 28 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: with like sounds and yeah, I just like such a 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: little nerd forever and ever. But yeah, I mean I 30 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: definitely am very inspired by like influencing empowerment within women, 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: and I think I needed to go on my own 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: journey before the music could really like catch on with everyone. 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that, like there's nothing more powerful 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: than that. 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: So oh my god, everyone I work is like you 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: love a female empowerment anthem, like exactly, I one hundred percent, 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm aligne. 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not like, you know, what. 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't kill you makes you stronger, Like you're not that 40 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: far off, but you're still like you know, like it's cool, 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: like it's viby and cool, but also like I love 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: you know the way you angle sort of your writing 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: and and. 44 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: All that stuff. 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: I guess, like I gotta ask you about Cinderella's dad 46 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: because that probably was like insane time, right like with 47 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: it blowing up and getting hundreds of millions of streams 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: and you know, social media usage, and can you take me. 49 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Back like what that felt like when that was sort 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: of popping off. 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: I like cry all the time, but like I was 52 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: crying a lot from that. Yeah, Like I just would 53 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: like wag up and like saw like because I care 54 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: so much about my music and I'm one of those 55 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: people that, like, you know, I try to have a 56 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: healthy relationship with my goals of like what success means 57 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: to me, because I really just try to focus inward 58 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: on like what it means to me, and like if 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: that translates to being really viral or really you know, successful, 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: then amazing. But yeah, like I just try to be 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: I just try to make work that I'm really proud of. 62 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: But then for that specific for that specific song, like 63 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: I will cry right now for that specific song to 64 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: have had the reaction that it did because it came 65 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: from such a personal experience and a personal struggle, and like, 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: you know, I've talked about it online, but it is 67 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: really interesting how that song has reached so many like 68 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: the videos of girls basically exposing their abusers, Like what 69 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: an what an intense song to be connected to? 70 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I mean I feel like that makes 71 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, that should be such a feather in your 72 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: cap and make you feel so good because you're not 73 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: only empowered them, but you offered a safe space, right, 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: and like that you sort of created this community and 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: and and this you know surrounding of like you make 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: people feel empowered and safe. But that also like leads 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: back to like that you do care, right, and that 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: is translating in your music, and what you're doing is 79 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 2: intentional and you're not just putting shit out to put 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: it out right, like you care about the moves that 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: you're making and that's just so cool. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: Thanks. I mean, I think it's all rooted and honesty, 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: and I think that's why like taking back the power 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: of like anything that's happened to you that you've felt 85 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: shame for, Like shame doesn't belong with someone who has 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: been hurt. And I think that like flipping the switch 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: on that and like being super unafraid to say, like 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: what has happened in my life, it's helped inspire others 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: to not be scared to say it, and like that 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: does like take your power back, and that flips the 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: switch on like you know, every everything, So that that 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: and then seeing that and like the ripple effect of that, 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean I wrote that song over twenty 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: twenty when I was going through like the worst heartbreak 95 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: of my life. I was going through a breakup with 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: someone who like might the only time I've ever like 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: in my life done this, And I truly did forget 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: I was a bad bitch, but like I attached my 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: identity to like another human being, So I feel like 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: I lost who I was. I was like making decisions, 101 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: I was wearing clothes that like maybe this other person 102 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: would like more than like I lost myself in that. Yeah, 103 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: and I have a very strong sense of self and clearly, 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 3: like when you asked when did I start as a musician, 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: like five years old, I knew exactly what I wanted. 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: So for that to happen to a girl like me, 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: it was like wow, Like honestly, this can happen to 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: anyone like this, just like being manipulated like all that, 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: like falling into that, and then that's what made For 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: a long time, I was like, why isn't my music 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: like really connecting yet, Like why has it blown up? 112 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: But like I was lying, and you cannot make a 113 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: cool bad bitch song if you don't believe it, like 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: like if you get into the room. There's so many 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: times where my label would be like okay, like this 116 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: is what's working, Like let's get you into the studio 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: and make another Babbage song. But like if I'm not 118 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: feeling like a bad Bache that day, like I physically 119 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: like I cannot lie, like in a song, I cannot lie. 120 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's such like a unique I mean, I don't know, 121 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: because you're so vulnerable and like you said, real and 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: honest in your music like it and I don't know, 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe it, but like it 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: hits different, right, Like you can tell people just putsh 125 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: it out to putsh it out, and there's no meaning 126 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: behind it, especially in you know, whether it be pop 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: or whatever it might be like we're just doing stuff 128 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: to do stuff, or or maybe stuff that started one 129 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: way but then got so contrived and manipulated in this 130 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: way and that way that it doesn't it ends up 131 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: not translating, right. 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: But like I think like. 133 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: Your music and your writing specifically, I'm very much like 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: a lyrics person that translates right, And you could tell 135 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: that you care, which is so real, and I want 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: to point out that right now you're doing it Indie right, Yes, 137 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: I am is nuts that like but and that kind 138 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: of rolls into like my next question because I want 139 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: to talk to you about like the social media of 140 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: it all, right, because I'm assuming I don't know the 141 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: ins and outs of the music industry, but you know, 142 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: an indie artist doing this independent, a lot of it's 143 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: got to be on you, right when it's not only 144 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: the music and the production and how it's released. And 145 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: it's probably good that you get those decisions, but then 146 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: it's probably a lot of pressure too. But from like 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: a social media side of it all, I always struggle with, like, 148 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, we have to feel videos today, like 149 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this, you know, Like how 150 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: like navigate that and be like okay, like I'm gonna 151 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: put the I'm gonna put something out there and it 152 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: might get scrutinized or it might get hate comments, but 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm still gonna do it. 154 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: How do you stay motivated to do that? 155 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: First and foremost, choosing good people in my life. I 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: think that you know, I've had the like tough love 157 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: team before and like that in some ways that can 158 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: be motivational. But I just realized, like I am a 159 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: very like I'm a sensitive artist, and like, you know, 160 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: I need people to understand that concept to her around 161 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: me and so I have like sweetheart managers now who 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: just encourage me, and they don't you know, blame me 163 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: if the video doesn't go well, because it's not our fault, 164 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: like it's it's the algorithm, and you know, we're all 165 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: just throwing paint at the wall. Like so I think 166 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: like remembering that, like the views are not a reflection 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: of the art all the time, and obviously like it 168 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: everyone gets really in their head about it. It's like 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: I I think, like we should have support groups because 170 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: like we're all in this and and it's so beautiful 171 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: because I do think that, like wow, like it gives 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: hope to everyone, Like you know, people could be like 173 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: in their hometowns and like you literally have an opportunity 174 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 3: to like post online and figure out a way to 175 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: get yourself signed from like out of nowhere or like 176 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: I wrote, Cinerella is dead in Rhode Island in a field, 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 3: like you know, it doesn't like just it doesn't even matter, 178 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: Like we all have so much opportunity now. But at 179 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: the same time that has made within the last year 180 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: or two, like the competition and like how many people 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: are putting music out there, like it's so convoluted, like 182 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: it is different now, and so I do I do 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: wonder though, like if there will be a shift, and 184 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: for me personally, I I have been feeling like a 185 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: claustrophobic a little bit with social media. So that's why 186 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: I really like, you know, there are other sides to 187 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: the business, like TikTok is its own business, like social 188 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: media is its own business, and then there's like also live, 189 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: and then there's also radio. And it's crazy that my label, 190 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: you know, radio is really expensive. They never invested in 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: Cinderella Staid when independently gold I was doing that social 192 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: media completely by myself, like I was the marketing, like 193 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: I was absolutely like just posting, like coming up with 194 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: all these things and then following the momentum and then 195 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: a lot of it was organic. But yeah, so now 196 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: I think, like I'm just remembering outside of this, like 197 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: this is all gonna die one day. Like I was 198 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: a viner when I was like in middle school. I 199 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: had like a profile on there, and I remember when 200 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: that a disappeared and like I felt like my opportunity 201 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: to get success was gone in all these hours that 202 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: I had put in. So I've had that like traumatic experience, 203 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: so I kind of like go with this with like 204 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: the idea of like this will all be gone one day. 205 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: What won't be gone is like first of all live shows. 206 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm also putting my focus into, like 207 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: I need human connection to balance this experience out. And 208 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: also with radio, which is the other side of things, 209 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: I am independently investing in that, which is something that 210 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: I never did when I was on a major label. 211 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: So you know, I just I think that it is 212 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: one of those things where like I believe in myself 213 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: so ferociously that I have just decided to take those 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: risks that are really scary and I'm self funding it all. 215 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I really believe in it, and I think 216 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: what I have to say is important. And yeah, I 217 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: appreciate like even hearing you say that, like the lyrics 218 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: have touched you, like the like. 219 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: It's it's so cool. 220 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: And I love being able to support artists that literally 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: are doing your doing it yourself, which is crazy, like 222 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: you're making decisions and that's it. It's just so awesome. 223 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: And when you're as good as you are, like I 224 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: just I want to scream it from the rooftops because 225 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: you're like so amazingly talented. I got to talk to 226 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: you for I got to talk to you about the 227 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: Kissy Lips before we get into Emotional Virgin, because I'm 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: obsessed with that song. But like, where do the idea 229 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: come from? And also is that how you make it 230 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: every day? By kissing your hand and putting it on 231 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: your neck because you did a video like showing that, 232 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: But like why not just get a tattoo? Or is 233 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: it a tattoo? 234 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: I have so many answers for you, it's not even funny. 235 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: I wrote an essay on this actually that I pin 236 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: up because I just have a lot to say. I 237 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: will pin up essays that I have written on the 238 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: walls at my shows. 239 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: It so awesome. 240 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: It gives people something to do while they're waiting, right, 241 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: So like hell. 242 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so yeah, I have so many 243 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: things to answer that With number one, you know, first 244 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: of all, I wanted something that felt like a symbol 245 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: of what I stood for. And you know, when I 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: was first with Capital and we were sort of like 247 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: picking out like what my kind of style would be, 248 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: and I felt very multipleic. I have like lots of 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: multiplicity within like even my gender and my sexuality, and 250 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: you know, like one day I wake up and I 251 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 3: feel really masculine, and one day I wake and I 252 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: feel really feminine. That's sort of what my song Equinique 253 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: is about. But you know, I think that honestly, I 254 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: wasn't around enough gay people, and I don't think they 255 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: got it. I was like, this isn't a flan thing, 256 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: this is a fluidity thing, Like, oh, I can be 257 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: all of these things at once, And you know, we 258 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: really leaned into the super like courseted look, which I 259 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: love because I think like, when I am speaking on 260 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: a lot of feminist issues, it's really cool for me 261 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 3: to be dressed hyper feminine. But you know that doesn't 262 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: really reflect the entirety of like my identity. So first 263 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: of all, I am the core of my brand is 264 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: I want to reject shame, Like that is what I 265 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: care about spreading to everyone of all genders is shame 266 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: is like such a low vibration. None of us deserve 267 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: to feel that. We all deserve to fight through the 268 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: fight through that. So for me, I came up with 269 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: all those things in mind. I wanted to walk into 270 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: somewhere and for someone to be like did she just 271 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: like did a girl just like kiss her in the bathroom. 272 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: And you know, I honestly I've done looks where I've 273 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: made it look like Hickey's because I'm like, I don't care, 274 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: Like there's nothing to be ashamed for by being sexually empowered. 275 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: There's nothing to be a shame for with you know, 276 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: loving another gender. And then it has evolved so much. 277 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: There's also something so intimate about someone kissing you on 278 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: the next So when I when I first started this idea, 279 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: I literally would wake up. I was in my strut era. 280 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: I would wake up and I would be like, I'm 281 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: going to find a girl today or a guy that 282 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: likes to wear lipstick, and they're gonna kiss me on 283 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: the next So I would go out without a kiss, 284 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: and I would come back home with a kiss, and 285 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: I'd be like, I just want a little decoration. So 286 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: first of all, it did start as like this like 287 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: single era thing. 288 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: And then yeah, and then like you know, when I 289 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: wasn't in as much of like a single time or 290 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: I was more feeling to myself, I developed it into 291 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: sort of this like more just self love. 292 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: So then I would do it myself today though I 293 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: didn't want to ruin my white T shirt. So I 294 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: have these little yeah, but they look so real though, 295 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: just like it's fun too. Like at my shows, I 296 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: have people like I'll have them like kiss a canvas 297 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: and like art out of it. There's like so much 298 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: to it. There's such like magic in that symbol. It's 299 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: such a clastic thing. And then the last piece that 300 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: I'll answer this is a very long answer with you know, 301 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: I found a lot of people being like, oh my god, 302 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: I love Strut and I love Cindrella is Dead and 303 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: like I love porn Star, but like I had no 304 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: idea you were all the same person. And so you know, 305 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: I'm like we're scrolling all the time, like we like 306 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: all these songs, but like maybe we haven't identified like 307 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: someone as an artist yet. Yeah, And so I just 308 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: wanted a way that like people could see me and like, no, 309 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: it was me on that scrolling on the feed. So 310 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, the girls singing Cindrella is Dead will also 311 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: be the struck girl because she always was a kiss. Yes, 312 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: that's kind of mine. 313 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: And if you don't have do you have branded lip 314 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: tattoos that you give out like that what. 315 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: I merch scanned my my lips, So I have made 316 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: on Like on my merch on the corner, I put 317 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: like a kiss on every single one, which is the 318 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: left side. And so oh yeah, but I have much 319 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: to go. I haven't done like a lips Lipstic brand 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: collab yet. 321 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: My god, yeah you need to. 322 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: All I'm doing is on makeup TikTok. I don't do makeup, 323 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: but somehow I makeup TikTok and like it's so relaxing 324 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: to me, Like I don't know, everyone makes fun of me, 325 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: like because I know what a highlighter is. Now, I'm like, well, 326 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: it's okay. I don't do drag. I don't do makeup, 327 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: but like I like watching it. 328 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: It's okay. 329 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: It's like meditational. 330 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it truly is? It truly is. Anyway, that's a 331 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: story for a different day. 332 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: Really, I want to talk about Emotional Virgin. It is 333 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: so good because why it caught my eye and like 334 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: really like sort of like in my ear, it was 335 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: like it's giving eighties but it's also giving like a 336 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: little bit of like it's just a good driving song. 337 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Like I spend a lot of my time in the car, 338 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: and so like I don't live in the city. I 339 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: live outside the city, so I'm always in traffic. I'm 340 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: always driving, so like when I'm in my car, that's 341 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: sort of like my zen moment, right, So when I 342 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: heard Emotional Version, immediately added it to my driving playlist 343 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: because I'm like, this song is just so good in 344 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: the car. So I wanted you to talk to a 345 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: little bit about it because I want to convince everyone 346 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: that they need to listen to it, and then all 347 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: the radio stations need to play it. 348 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: So tell me about emotional Virgin. 349 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so that exactly is why I decided to 350 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: make that the radio song, and I am my management 351 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: like we took a leap on it because I was like, 352 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm not even necessarily sure if this is like a 353 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: TikTok song, And that's why I never originally I wasn't 354 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: even gonna make it a single. My producer all my 355 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: like co writers were like, have been obsessed with this song. 356 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 3: We wrote it years ago. Actually yeah, so, but that's 357 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: why I wanted it to be the radio single because 358 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: it does just feel like one of those songs it's 359 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: like it feels so comforting, but then it also energizes you. 360 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that song is really special to me. 361 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: It's obviously it's like the the title track, so I 362 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: don't know if you know that, but the name of 363 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: the album will be Emotional VIRGINO. 364 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I see. 365 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm really excited about that. That'll be out 366 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: at the at the top of next year. 367 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: My next question is what's coming up that's so exciting? 368 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I know, but yeah, I mean that song. 369 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 3: I have been describing it as my first love song 370 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: ever because honestly a lot of my music has been 371 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: about like things that I've been through and like you know, 372 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: overcoming like internal struggles, and this is like the first 373 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: song I've ever put out that is just like pure 374 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: and like about pure good love and about like giving 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: and receiving and there's something and that's why I wanted 376 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 3: it to be about like losing your emotional virginity, because 377 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: that is how I felt when you know, when I 378 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: was writing this, it was just kind of about like, wow, 379 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: like this is this is the first time like anyone's 380 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: ever like been that nice to me or like, you know, 381 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: especially when you go through something and like your bar 382 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: is so low, so then like have something really beautiful. 383 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: And I I had a a brief amazing relationship with 384 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: this girl when I was twenty two and she suddenly 385 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: passed away and it was like this horribly traumatic and 386 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: it happened like the week that actually like I got signed, 387 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: So it was like the craziest. 388 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, like up and down, like yeah. 389 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: It was like so high and lowe at the same time. 390 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Just got that's crazy. 391 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It was like a crazy like time in 392 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: my life. And so also like putting this music out 393 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: feels really vulnerable, Like part of me wants to talk 394 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: about it, part of me doesn't. But like when I 395 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: talk about her, it is really beautiful that like I'm 396 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: investing in a song that I feel like her energy 397 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: is in and like the fact that like it can 398 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: be heard all over the world, you know, like when 399 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: you've lost someone that you know, like you know what 400 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: their energy is and you know, like especially if you're 401 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: an artist, like I know when I'm like, you know, 402 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: alluding to her or like adding her into a song, 403 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: or like if she's staying in the room with me, 404 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: like on a more spiritual level, Like it is really 405 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: cool now to be at this point where I'm putting 406 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: out that music where like I just feel like I'm 407 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: like I don't know her glitter is like spread around 408 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: the world, and it makes me feel related. 409 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: You know. 410 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: It's such an honor to her. Got her name was Claire. 411 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: She was also an artist, and yeah, so like so 412 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: tragic obviously, but also like she we for each other. 413 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: We were like that love where we were both like 414 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: in horrible relationships before each other, and so when we met, 415 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: it was like, oh my god, Like it was just 416 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: like so healing to be like loved in that in 417 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: that way, and like it yeah, it like melted everything away, 418 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: and you can really hear that where it's just kind 419 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: of like, you know, it feels like my heart is 420 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 3: being touched for the first time. Like everything before this 421 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: wasn't real. 422 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't feel like this. Yeah, and that's how 423 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: you know, And and. 424 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: It's so tragic, but it's also like so amazing that 425 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: you get to sort of like have her story and 426 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: those memories and everything sort of live on in something 427 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: and such an amazing piece of art. Like you should 428 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: be proud because that that's really awesome and you paid 429 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: amazing homage to her, Like I didn't even know that story, 430 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: and like I'm like ready to cry, Like it's because 431 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: now like think knowing that and thinking going back and 432 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: like listening to it, it's like, oh wow, like that 433 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: it's so powerful. 434 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 435 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: And also like when you do put it in perspective 436 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: with like all the stories I've shared before about relationships, 437 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: like I don't know, I feel like I'm really proud 438 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: of myself, like how far I've come, and like that 439 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: is the ultimate act of self. Love is choosing the 440 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: people around you that love you in the way that 441 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: you deserve. And if that's my ethos, like I better 442 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: be acting on it. And I want to inspire my 443 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: fans too, after they've had their Cinderella's Dead a reclamation moment, 444 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: like I want them to go find their love, you know. Yeah, 445 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: I think we all deserve that love with yourself. Like 446 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: fuck a relationship, righted, nobody? 447 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Fuck it me relationship, No. 448 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: Fuck it. I'm deeply, deeply in love. But I want 449 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: people to do. 450 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: But all I listened to is sad girl anthems and 451 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: break up music. Maybe that's like the dichotomy I need 452 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: in life. 453 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: And that's on growth, That's what I gotta say for you. 454 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Like that's on growth, Like oh my god, Okay, 455 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: so you've already spilled the beans. We have an album 456 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: coming well at the beginning of the year. When are 457 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: we getting some live shows? And when are you coming 458 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: to Chicago? Because I need to make a request. You 459 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: also need to come here, like you need we need 460 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: like summer vibes, maybe like around Pride time, but also 461 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: like rooftop summertime Chicago show, like we need to like 462 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: do that, like that would be mere. Yeah, so what's 463 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: coming up? 464 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: First of all, I will not be coming to Chicago 465 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: in the winter, Okay. 466 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't girl, don't stay away, stay away. 467 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: So not gonna happen. But I definitely will be coming 468 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 3: to Chicago. I played shoo was last time I was there. 469 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: Such a cool fun But I'm ready. I'm just like 470 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 3: so ready for that. I actually literally after this have 471 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: a meeting with my agent to about tour dates. 472 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: But there will get my request in for Chicago. Putting 473 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: my request it you. 474 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: Know what RCP link in the biogrel, you know, but 475 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: I know I'll put you on the list. But it'll 476 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: be really fun. I mean, I I will be doing 477 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: a tour. It will be the Emotional Virgin tour the album. 478 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: So you're we're getting like a proper rollout for this. 479 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: This is my first like full body of work I've 480 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: ever put out. So everything has been like SIMP singles 481 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: and then you know, I did an EP last year, 482 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: but it also wasn't like intended to be an EP. 483 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: I honestly think it was kind of like it was 484 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: kind of like something that was like super A and 485 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: R if I'm being completely honest, obviously, I uh, I 486 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: wrote all those songs from my life stories, but this 487 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: is the first song like I own. This is the 488 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: first album I almost like eat it like behind my 489 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: labels back, which like those are always gonna be. 490 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: The those are the best. 491 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like in secret no, but yeah, and like 492 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: I got to produce a bit on it too, So 493 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: there's like, you know, just like some some more experimental, 494 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: some more artistic, you're gonna you're gonna be able to 495 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: hear like all of the different like sides of my 496 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: heart mixed into one, and I think, you know there 497 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: there isn't really I don't even feel like an artist 498 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: until I've been able to put out a body of work, 499 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 3: like I feel like this is the beginning for me truly. 500 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so I'm so excited. 501 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear it, Like I just know 502 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna take me on a ride and I don't 503 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: know if my heart and mind are ready, but girl, 504 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna go through it together. Emlyne, thank you so 505 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: much for hanging out with me right now. The single 506 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: Emotional Virgin, it's everything to me, Like, okay, so my 507 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 2: shuffle that I'll tell you this before we'll go. I'm 508 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: sorry keeping you so long, but like your song Emotional Virgin, 509 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm my favorite driving playlist this morning into dat Sport 510 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: Confessional and I was like, wait, this makes sense, Like 511 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: it's like like I'm like I'm cautging it thing like 512 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: this song could be in like a Laguna Beach episode, 513 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: Like like that's like the vibe that I just like. 514 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: I love it, Yes, I love it. 515 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sitting down with the Emotional 516 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: Virgin of sing is the single Emmeline. I can't wait 517 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: to just watch you explode because you're so so, so, 518 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: so so good. So check her out wherever you get 519 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: your music and we will see you on. 520 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: The road soon. A girl cho Yes, thank you so much, 521 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: have a good day. 522 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: Rights bye.