WEBVTT - Episode 40: Seamus Power 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.880 much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.600 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.880 Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds podcast. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.240 I'm Shane Bake and with Marty Jerts and as always 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.760 and Marty, we've got not just one of the great 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.040 guys in golf. What are the great golf names today? 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.000 As a guest, Yeah, Seamous Power, It's awesome to have 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.280 you on and we're looking forward to kind of getting 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.080 to know you a little bit more and sharing that 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:27.760 with our guests. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:29.920 Yeah, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Yeah, 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:30.680 looking forward to it. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.800 All right, Seamus, I gotta start with this initial thoughts 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.479 on Johnson City, Tennessee. When you got there. How did 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.599 you go from Ireland to Johnson City, Tennessee. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.680 Yeah, it was a funny one. So our coach, like 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.400 Fred Warren, was definitely one of the first to embrace 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.440 international recruiting. I think, you know, it's probably hard to 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.440 get good US recruits to go to Johnson City, but 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.080 I didn't go on a recruiting visit, so I'd been 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.160 to LA and Miami in my time in US, so. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:55.880 Showed up there. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.040 That's like the Elliott Tennessee. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.000 Yeah, it was. It was something else, but it really 0:00:59.040 --> 0:00:59.720 is beautiful there. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:00.200 Oh. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.640 I was very lucky. So my team my freshman year, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:05.760 I think it was my freshman sophomore was like we 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.920 were all as an all GB and I team, So 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.200 I knew guys that had been through and they were 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.200 very helpful and stuff. But I think without that it 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.120 would have been a little more interesting, but it was 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.319 still it was still quite the culture shock. I mean, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.480 just in introduction to college sports. There's nothing like that, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.440 certainly in Ireland, probably in norhere else in the world. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.320 All that stuff was unbelievable. But it was great experience 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.920 and beautiful plays. So it was nice. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.480 What so you were there for four years? 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.520 Yes, yes, that all four So what was. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.880 Your journey like, you know, from your freshman year to 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.680 your senior year, you know, from your own personal golf 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.000 game progression standpoint. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.040 Yeah, it was interesting for me because I came in 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.000 like under the radar, but I actually had a very 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.920 good freshman year for the most part. And then I 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.920 had some like hitt and miss stuff kind of my 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.840 next couple of years. And then it was interesting. I 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.440 wasn't even sure about professional golf really for my senior year. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.040 I didn't play very well in the fallside knee surgery 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.520 like the summer before my senior year, but played very 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.640 very well my last semester, and that was kind of 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.680 the best I played in college. And that was kind 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.880 of thing that I saw enough to like, I'll give 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:06.880 a professional golf a shot. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.720 So right there, going into your final semester, in your mind, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.320 you were teetering were you're favoring maybe not? 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.919 Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't sure. I mean, I was 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.480 lucky enough to have like we had Rees Davies on there. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.560 It was like one of the best players in college golf. 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.760 He was there my first year. And then there was 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.040 Garrett Shaw who was minimum two or three time All 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.720 americanly or like, he was like our best player of 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.840 my second year. And then it was other really good players. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.560 So I wasn't I'd never been the best player on 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.799 our team. So I was looking at, you know, all 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.840 these other guys that we played against Georgia, and you 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.520 were looking at a team and you would like Russell Henley, Harris, English, 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.280 Hudson Swafford, Brian Harmon, and you're like, you have to 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.280 play against all these guys. So it was a little 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:45.519 up in the air for me. It wasn't one of 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.720 that like sixteen, knew where I was gonna. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:47.840 Go with it. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.000 Yeah, it was later to golf, so kind of later 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.840 learning all that side, So it was a little different. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.600 But I saw enough my senior year at least to 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.400 give a shot. Yeah, I saw that. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.359 You said if you weren't playing golf, you'd be an accountant, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:58.320 which is hilarious. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.280 I said that. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.520 I think when I got my like like ten or 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.600 ten or ten more years, I definitely wouldn't be but 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.840 I was sure I was. I honestly don't know. It 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.120 was one of those things I hopefully never have to know, 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.880 but from just from being around and doing what I've 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.600 done for so long, it would be tough now to 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.359 go back to kind of I feel like trying to 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.400 get into something where you could still work for yourself 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.400 for some sort of business by yourself would be the 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.440 avenue woul try to go down. But I had an 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.840 accounting degree, so that was that was kind of easy, said. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:28.359 And you were like incredibly ranked as a racquetball player. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.600 As a kid, I was, Yeah, I actually have a 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.880 bronze medal from the Rackaball World Championships. I was like twelve. Yeah, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.040 I was very we so it was kind of funny. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.080 My parents were so I grew up in a very 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.280 rural place in Ireland. My parents were huge in getting 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.080 a community center built, and my dad was huge in 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.520 the handball, like as an Irish sport, like the not 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.040 the throw kind of team on the you know, hitting 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.080 ball with your hand kind of one. But racketball was 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.240 taking off, so racketball ended up being the sport that 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.160 got played in the kind of the handball court and 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.600 I loved it, Like I also a pretty good handl 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.960 likee coordination. I just love racketball. And yeah, we were 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.680 very lucky. Kind of was taken off in Ireland and 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.480 I was kind of plaid at the right time and 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.600 ended up going to Los Angeles a couple of times 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.480 for World Championships and kind of stuff like that. So 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.880 it was really cool a few years and yeah, absolutely love. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.760 To Since the popularity of like pickle and paddle have 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.600 blown up, do you ever get into that at all. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.880 I so like ice. My girlfriend and I started playing 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.560 some like pickleball last year, but then I kind of 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.600 got had some hip issues, not because of that, just 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.120 like through golf, so I haven't played much since. But yeah, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.480 it's amazing popular. It's I haven't played paddle but pickleball 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.279 was fun. Like we only played a little bit, but 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.560 it was it was really fun. And it seemed like 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.359 everyone was playing in my gym in Vegas, like they 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.680 changed out a couple of basketball courts to put in 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.159 pickleball courts and all this stuff. But it's it's so popular. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:42.359 I'd like to play a little bit bit more, but 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.200 not a hips field. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:44.440 But have you got into that yet, Marty? 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.600 Are you just just dabbled, just dabbled. But I'm trying 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.520 to get my kids into ten and they're playing and 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.119 taking tennis less. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:53.520 You know, tennis is. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.039 Hard, I mean with with racketball background and stuff like 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.479 tennis everthing, ping pong, I thing. I'm assuming you were 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:58.880 good at that. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.440 Time, okay, when I was younger, like, but so rackaball 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.760 and tennis didn't match up that well because rackaball you're 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.360 hitting everything flat and then you're trying to when you 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.120 go into tennis, trying to change the group and try 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.240 to get like those tops difficult back inside, I'd be 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.520 okay for inside, I kind of just what it wasn't 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.000 as wasn't as good as i'd like, But I mean 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.880 I may ably hit it fine. It's just trying to 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:19.920 like hit the hit the shots you'd like to hit 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:20.600 or work kind of. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.400 Growing up in Ireland, what what you know? Obviously you 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.320 played a couple of sports, but what what did your 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.880 season look like? I'm always curious about that, Like, you know, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.960 were you like all golf in the summer? What did 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.680 you do in the winter? What other sports? 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.279 Yeah, when I got into golf, like it was strange 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.640 looking back, because you just play. I mean I had 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.640 friends I got into it, and we would play golf 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.080 from all day long in the summer. I mean it 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.400 gets brighted. I can't remember four or five morning, it's 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.520 bright an eleven at night, So you could play all 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.040 day long. But I wouldn't play much during the school year, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.640 maybe once on the weekend because I didn't live I 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.040 didn't live close to a course, so the season would 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.960 be like that. But honestly it was it was kind 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.000 of funny. Even when I started golf, it wouldn't have 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.359 been my main sport. I would kind of working in 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.560 around so we have Irish football with a sport called hurling, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.480 which is like it's nothing really like lacrosse mixed with 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.760 field hockey and kind of thing. And then I played 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.920 a lot of racquetball, but a lot of different sports. 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.600 Played soccer for a while too, so it was kind 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.039 of interesting. And yeah, I still like when I go home, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.840 there's you know, the like by hurling at football coach 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.359 he said, that's my new was in trouble when I 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.279 started kind of, you know, all of a sudden planning 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.880 hurling football around my golf. But it wasn't like it 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.520 was probably fifteen ish that I would play. I had 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.599 more of a full season, which is amazing. I go 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:31.840 home now and in the winter. I don't know how 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.120 I ever played golf in the winter, but I did, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.440 and I loved it, and yeah, I mean I just 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.840 I just liked the challenge of it and started getting 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.160 into it more and more. And then by the time 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.200 we got to like fifteen sixteen, kind of got picked 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.719 for some panels and then like you'd go and you'd 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.800 use coaching panels and you so then you'd really be 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.120 all season long, but you do a shorter season, like 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:50.960 you could play in the winter. But it's you know, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.680 it's ball in hand everywhere, and it's it's kind of 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.160 miserable and frostly. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:07:00.320 In my trips over there to Ireland and and anywhere 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.560 in Great Britain and Ireland, there's not like great. It's 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.400 not like over here where you are on perfect range 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.240 and great practice facility. Did you have a range at all? 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:08.520 I've been to a lot of courses that don't even 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.600 have a range, or you're just playing all the time. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.280 A lot of playing. But I mean our drive range 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.840 was on a probably twenty five degrees slope and it 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.920 was two hundred yards long, and you're. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.040 Always above your feet or below your field. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.000 I mean you could you could hit either end. It's 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.440 not it's not like a rain. It was basically just 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.200 basically just a field. Yeah, so you could, you could. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.280 That's the thing if you're working on something, if you're 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.840 cutting too much, you got the other end. But it 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.280 was yea, I was interured you'd pick up your own 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.800 all your own balls. It was totally different. It's yeah, 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.000 you ranges aren't particularly big in Ireland. It's kind of funny. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.040 I don't know if it's I'm not really sure. Like 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:40.440 you guys would just show up to take a couple 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.160 of swings and get on the first tee and off 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.160 you go. Yeah, it's very different. Yeah, so you would 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.880 just be you'd be on the course a lot more. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:48.760 I mean in the summer. Yeah, you'd play, you could 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.840 play two, three rounds. You'd come in and you just 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.680 had other I was looking. I was at a golf 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:53.960 club that there was a lot of juniors and we 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.120 would play so much golf. Looking back, it was crazy. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.840 But yeah, absolutely love to Americans go across the pond 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.920 and they have to work on flighting the golf ball. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.680 Did you have to learn how to hit the ball 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:04.240 up in the air? 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.120 I always, I rarely always had a higher ball flight. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.880 I always when I was sixteen seventeen, we always hit 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.080 a little higher. And obviously in the wind you want 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.840 to hit the lower. But I always found it easier 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.200 to hit it lower when you need it to rather 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:19.920 than trying to hit the higher. When you did so, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.240 I was like, this will be fine, but you do 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.120 have to learn to add different shots. But the biggest 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.960 thing is like going from never playing Bermuda grass to 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.240 go chipping on bermuda grass. It's just it's bizarre. You 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:31.960 it looks like a fine line and you hit it 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:33.600 and it goes a foot in front of you and 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.400 you're that takes a little bit of time because it 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.440 messes with your mind. Like we obviously play a lot 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.880 of shots around the greens. It's tight grass, but it's 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.200 like it's perfect to chip off if you if you 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.439 can clip it, it just it comes off exactly how 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.000 you think it is, and all of a sudden, you 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.160 there's so many unknowns and that was the biggest part 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.000 to me. I was just figuring that out. And even 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.400 on like on the fairway, like little climb the grooves 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.400 or like it wall, like little different things like that 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.600 we just wouldn't have seen before. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.760 When you jumped right into the bermuda and tennessee probably right. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.280 Yeah, straight like it was, it was bizarre, like it's 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.640 welcome to the stage. Yeah, I think you're you're so 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.640 naive grown up in our l I'd never seen grass 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:09.920 called dormant. I didn't know that was. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:10.959 Yeah. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.400 So my freshman year that fall, you know, we got 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.240 like a Tennessee got whatever some hard frost. Didn't go 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:17.840 to the practice for a day or two, and then 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.800 I go up to practice and immediately panic, call my coach. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.719 I think our drive man has been vandalized because it 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.520 started to go dormant. And it's like I never I 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.560 didn't notice was a thing, And it was like it 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.520 was the strangest thing. You just you grow, we grew up. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.560 People ask you working on grass, especially on a move 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.240 to college first, and I was like, I have no 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.120 idea grass is grass, Like we don't have different types, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.959 and all of a sudden it becomes such a thing, 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.720 and you know, playing out here now you get to 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.000 be very aware of you start to figure out what 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.120 to do on certain ones and all that. But that 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:46.960 was a that was the funniest adjustment for me, and 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.000 especially then coach like driving up in a panic, thinking 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:51.679 we'll be vandalized and he's looking at me like I'm 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.120 an idiot. So it was it was an interesting introduction, jameus. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.280 In your time in college, you start working with Scott Sullivan, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.520 right yeap on just kind of introducing you to equipment 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.360 optimization some club fitting things. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.880 Tell us about like your first experience with Scott. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.680 With Ping and and and uh you know some of 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:11.640 those times in college. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.280 Yeah, it was amazing. I mean when I came to 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.240 college first, I had a mixed bag of everything. I 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.520 think I'd like, I wouldn't be terrified him that, but 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.480 like those small McGregor irons and like mixed bag of 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.240 everything kind of I think I don't remember a Potter. Yeah, 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.319 so like like Scott then comes in. He would always 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.360 come with the Bank of Tennessee and like October and 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.000 Scott would come in and do his like like trip 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.160 in around that and it was just I'd never really 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.800 seen that before. It was amazing just even just meant 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.160 like introducing you to like what you're looking for with 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.640 launch and that sort of stuff for you know before 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.080 you're just kind of looking at it, going like that 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:43.880 looks pretty good. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:44.199 Eyeballing it. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.839 Yeah, that's all I would do that one. Yeah, Like 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:48.800 so all of a sudden you're being introduced to that. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.640 It was it was amazing. Like I switched over to 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.800 ping was it that fall or that spring and I've 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.400 been paying ever since. It was just amazing that everything 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.720 all the options this and that, you know, like I 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.240 was I guess naives all that I'd be like, I 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.160 don't like this one, so you just assume that just 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.960 get a driver from some like a different companies like 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.920 that one's gonna better, not realizing that, oh no, you 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.960 can like tweak this to suit you. You can do this, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.360 you can do that. So it was it was amazing 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.319 and we were actually was actually talking about it yesterday, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.000 like the fact that he was doing on that before 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.839 the adjustable heads to I don't know how many drivers 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.440 he was squeezing in those club gloves. But yeah, Scotty 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.120 was great, Like, yeah, it was amazing. He it was 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.800 an amazing service and it was just like it was 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.920 I was blown away. It's like two days later, like 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.760 like all this stuff starts showing up and it's just 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.000 all of a sudden like night and day difference, and 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.559 like he's gone through every different grip, grip sizes to 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.120 like shafts, all this kind of stuff where I was 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.520 very naive, like you just kind of I don't know, 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.120 you just kind of have clubs and you either sometimes 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.560 you liked or some others you didn't really know why. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.240 So it was amazing. Yeah, it was an incredible service. Yeah. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.120 Yeah, so you brought up how he was able to 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.120 do that, you know, before the adjustable. So a lot 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.160 of times we would actually like trim the feral and 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.560 shim the shaft in tilted a little bit. And that's 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.640 now actually what the adjustah houzzle. You know, it's kind 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.160 of in there, just tilted a little and you can 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.280 really fine tune things and looking at your specs you play, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.680 you play all your woods in a custom like non 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.199 standard setting, like you I think your drivers in the 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.280 big plus, right, it's like adding one and a half degrees. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.960 Yeah, it is, so I like, I like, it's amazing. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.680 I was kind of missing it right like for like 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.560 a little while, and then so I put it in 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.520 that big plus and it just I feel like the 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.760 face is looking at me more in that setting, and 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.560 I like a lot more. It's still only like nine 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.880 and a half degrees even in the big Plus, but 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.880 it just the visually it looks much easier. It's as 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.680 funny as that is. It's just visually is the big 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.440 thing for me. As soon as I put that in 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.160 the dot, or even put a if you give me 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:41.640 a nine and a half degree in the dot, it 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.280 feels like that toe is kind of sliding away from me. Yeah, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.160 and even like older people aren't going to see it. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.880 Like also funny game for that, but yeah, it's been 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.920 a huge, huge change for me putting that big plus. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.520 And yeah, it's incredible the way you can do that. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.880 You can completely change your club, changes our plays. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.240 You're big minus guy, right, I mean you're the opposite. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:58.920 I'm a ten to five and I put in the 0:12:58.920 --> 0:12:59.440 big minus. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.000 Interesting, I kind of wanted. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.880 The phase point just a little bit, right, But it's 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.719 it's so fun to have those options, have that individual 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:09.679 reference to your eye, right. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.440 It is yet because I like I like to fade it, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.360 but I don't like to see the face because as 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.080 soon as when the face starts getting I feel like 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.520 I was going to want make you want to do that. Yeah, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.400 it's like it's it's such a strange game for that. 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.920 And like sometimes it's as soon as you see a club, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.720 you don't even realize the time, but like it's somewhere 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.840 deep down is telling you. Your gut's telling you we 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.559 don't like to look at this one. And sometimes it 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.680 takes you a little like to kind of trust it. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.800 But yeah, it is amazing to have those options. I mean, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.320 you can just completely change how I mean, how thing 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.800 that ball flies distance, it's going everything basically, it's it's 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:39.520 it's incredible. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.760 Now shames, Your grips are interesting too, right, plus five 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.160 wraps in the bottom hand, yeah, right, plus two at 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.960 the top taills how that kind of came to be? 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.520 Yeah, So I was this was CP was like we 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.320 were talking. Actually I got them regripped, and it's almost 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.160 no ordeal to get them regripped. There there's a lot 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.360 going on. But I don't have particularly big hands. But 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.800 I think I just have like shorter fingers and bigger 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.000 palms or something someone told me. So I just had 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.160 I can't like probably regular midsize. I kind it's been 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.400 a few years regular midsized grips. And I think it 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.320 was like one of Bubble's clubs that was like sitting 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.319 around when I was at the fact dory, like seven 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.280 on it and I was just like, oh, that feels nice. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.000 So like I was with CP, so he was like, oh, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:16.640 we'll just like we'll build it up a little bit, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:17.880 and I think he would go like one or two 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.680 raps and I'm like I could still go a little 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.080 and eventually at the end of the day, like he 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.080 was like, so what is that, he was like, and 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.560 they were like, it's it's all sorts. There's a black 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.560 tape in there, there's like other stuff. But it feels 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.240 amazing in my hands, like when I hold like a 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.480 regular sized grip. Now, I don't know how I ever 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.360 was able to do it. Like the biggest thing for 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.560 me is especially around the greens. I go up and 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.400 down the shaft a lot, and I didn't like when 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.560 I would go down near like the end of the grip, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.400 the club feel like really really small. It just kind 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.560 of like a toy club. So I much prefer like 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.480 it's just less tapered, so it's it just feels a 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.480 little more similar when I go up and down the 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.480 shaft a little bit. So I liked it. It was 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.560 something I hadn't really experienced it before. It was just 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.960 it's something that I picked up and I liked, and 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.400 it's been like that for a few years. So it 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:59.480 feels amazing my hand now. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.200