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Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Shane Bake and with Marty Jerts and as always

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Speaker 2: and Marty, we've got not just one of the great

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Speaker 2: All right, Seamus, I gotta start with this initial thoughts

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Speaker 3: Your journey like, you know, from your freshman year to

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's incredible the way you can do that.

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Speaker 1: get the ninety and like, you know, there's people like

437
00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,480
Speaker 1: they're behind the ninety. They're like, you know, you know,

438
00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,360
Speaker 1: see if you can follow that, but all these guys

439
00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,800
Speaker 1: like saying this kind of stuff. I was like, and

440
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,760
Speaker 1: I honestly on nine didn't even hit it particularly a

441
00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,080
Speaker 1: good shot. I probably pulled it four yards, but it

442
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,520
Speaker 1: funneled off the left slope back in and that was

443
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,120
Speaker 1: that was obscene With that one in, I just like

444
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think. And then yeah, it

445
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,720
Speaker 1: was my brother was caddying for me. I thought that

446
00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,280
Speaker 1: was funny because I feel like he was probably the

447
00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,680
Speaker 1: only one wasn't de lied because he was the one

448
00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,600
Speaker 1: is like he was following that and I was like, yeah, good,

449
00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 1: look at that one. So it was gassed. And then

450
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm walking up and they were signing out like they

451
00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,320
Speaker 1: call the group up behind in Scottish. Schiffer dunks in

452
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960
Speaker 1: on top of my ball. So like you didn't even go.

453
00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,400
Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffer's ball out as you're getting your I left.

454
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Speaker 1: It in there for him. Yeah, it was on top

455
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Speaker 1: of it.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a rare scenario. Yeah, what should I

457
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Speaker 4: do here?

458
00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,680
Speaker 1: Funnel pins throwing the water from But no, it was.

459
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,920
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was like that's such a unique experience.

460
00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,520
Speaker 1: Like the year before, like I don't have kids running yet,

461
00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,680
Speaker 1: but like I was with Scott Sollings and Keegan Bradley

462
00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,520
Speaker 1: both of their kids out and it was just it's

463
00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,040
Speaker 1: just nothing like it. It's just a blast. Is everyone's

464
00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,400
Speaker 1: in good form, like everyone's happy to be there. It's

465
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,760
Speaker 1: just amazing and obviously to have like memories like that.

466
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,880
Speaker 1: And then they said, which is kind of a cool

467
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,600
Speaker 1: thing they send you like crystal, but it's like, so

468
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,639
Speaker 1: it's Waterford Crystal, which is where I grew up in here,

469
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,119
Speaker 1: so it was like I've seen the boxes coming, so

470
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,760
Speaker 1: it was it's pretty special. Just yeah, I mean everyone,

471
00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,959
Speaker 1: like I asked about it. It was like on ESPN

472
00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,639
Speaker 1: Top Plays and so it was. It was fun. It

473
00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,960
Speaker 1: was just a I don't know, it was different. It's

474
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Speaker 1: different to normal home and ones and obviously the back

475
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,400
Speaker 1: to back ones.

476
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Speaker 2: Was absolutely your brother hit after you made this second Yeah,

477
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,560
Speaker 2: hit in the water.

478
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,840
Speaker 1: Actually hit a pretty good shot, but it was Yeah,

479
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,600
Speaker 1: it was tough to follow.

480
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,399
Speaker 2: How nervous was he? I mean you know, I mean

481
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,840
Speaker 2: I can only imagine if you're sitting up there cold turkey. Right.

482
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,080
Speaker 2: I swung all day so I twin brother. So it's funny.

483
00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,639
Speaker 1: So like they did back to back years and they

484
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,679
Speaker 1: don't play a lot of golf and then they're like

485
00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,200
Speaker 1: they're like carrying around. They're like one of them like I

486
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,240
Speaker 1: haven't had a golf shot for like four months. I'm like,

487
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,560
Speaker 1: this is not a good place to start. But they

488
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,800
Speaker 1: both did decent shots. But it like it's that's a

489
00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 1: tough one because there's just as you said, water all around,

490
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of people when you're not used

491
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,360
Speaker 1: to it, it's a lot of people around. So yeah,

492
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 1: they had fun with it.

493
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 2: Since we're on this, this is a big debate on

494
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Speaker 2: social media, so I want to ask you this too.

495
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 2: Par three holes in one count I definitely counted.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember someone asked me that interview. Right afterwards,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it, but I feel like there

498
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,640
Speaker 1: were long enough where one was like one hundred and

499
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,680
Speaker 1: thirty and one was I think they're bout one hundred

500
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,960
Speaker 1: and thirty or something like that. I do get the debate,

501
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,160
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely counting augusta. I think if I get

502
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,720
Speaker 1: it from h R to a ghust, I'm counting it.

503
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, I say this, I always ask pe all this.

504
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, how many times you hold out for eighty yards?

505
00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a ten handicap, it's like once

506
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,879
Speaker 2: in your life, then count it. If you made a

507
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 2: hold in one from eighty yards on a short course,

508
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 2: who cares, I'd say, counted.

509
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if I I mean I've spent pebble last week,

510
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,920
Speaker 1: If I get one of number seven airs, that I'm

511
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 1: definitely counting and that's shorter. So I was like, oh,

512
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,200
Speaker 1: I definitely did. I definitely did.

513
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 3: What What wedges do you bring to the Part three

514
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 3: contests or do you have to bring like a nine iron.

515
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 1: Or there is I brought up to nine iron. There's

516
00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember the exactly. There's one. It's like high

517
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 1: one forties is a numbers five ish. It's really fun

518
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 1: like and they changed it up the two years I've played,

519
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: like they completely changed it was amazing that we're able

520
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 1: to do that, Like the first hole was completely different.

521
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 1: It was several holes that changed a lot, so it

522
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,239
Speaker 1: was it was pretty cool, like you've the first hole

523
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 1: is short, and then the third down the hill is

524
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 1: like seventy yards downhill, which is a very unusual distance

525
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 1: for downhill. You just throw it on the green, but

526
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 1: then I think it's four and five or like a

527
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 1: little longer where you're hitting like one hundred and forty

528
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yard shots. So I think I carried

529
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 1: up to a nine er, and just to be sure

530
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: in case, it was in two winters.

531
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Speaker 3: So your wedge is Shamus, you play fifty eight? Did

532
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 3: you ever used a sixty? Did you grow up with

533
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 3: the fifty six? How did you settle around it?

534
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 4: Eight?

535
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 1: I just liked it around. I liked it around the greens.

536
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 1: I did like I had at sixty at one six.

537
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 1: I went the other way at sixty fifty six fifty

538
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: two pitch or probably forty eight, But it's I like

539
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: chipping with the fifty eight and it fits my set

540
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more like the pitchers have gotten gotten

541
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 1: stronger over the years, so like that gap between forty

542
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 1: six and fifty two is getting a little bit too

543
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 1: big kind of thing. So it was like I I

544
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: liked it, and then by much before chipping with a

545
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 1: fifty I do most of my chipping with a fifty eight.

546
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 1: It's just right in between everything kind of. It just

547
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 1: always kind of made more sense to me instead of

548
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 1: like swapping within sixteen fifty six and all that. Yeah,

549
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: so I like that there. As soon as I was

550
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 1: okay with that, then it made the gaps going through

551
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: the bag just a little bit.

552
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 4: That's rare.

553
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm always curious if if a player has gone from

554
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 3: a sixty down to fifty eight for green side and

555
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 3: that's what you've done that idea.

556
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. It gives you more obviously if one

557
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: time you have to did a flop that you've got to

558
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: open a little bit more whatever. But I feel like

559
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: my standard chip shot is just a little bit simpler

560
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: with the fifty eight.

561
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: So you go fifty eight, then fifty four bent to

562
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Speaker 3: fifty three.

563
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah right, they're basically at that point all just fitting

564
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: the filling my yardage numbers. Yeah, because I do as

565
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: I said, I do most of my chipping with the

566
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: fifty eight. So like my lobby goes one hundred yards,

567
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: and I want like that fifty four to fifty three

568
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: goes one sixteen and you know, like one thirty and

569
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: then one forty five, So we match up to the

570
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: my like I feel like a pitching way with the

571
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: set like dictates one dictates one end and then the

572
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: labo detext the other.

573
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 3: And then you just yeah, match shames. I love this

574
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: because we are built with the new S one fifty nine.

575
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: We built this really cool wedge app that does the

576
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: gaping right for the players so they can do exactly

577
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 3: what you've been able to do out here, you know,

578
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: in the truck and the track man, and it'd figure

579
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: out you're gapping.

580
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

581
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 1: For me, it makes it so easy because then is

582
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: the most you can be away from a full wedgshot

583
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: is going to be seven yards seven eight yards for me,

584
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: So then it's like you just have to basically need

585
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: one other shot with your wedges, which is at one

586
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: in between, and you should be pretty set from all

587
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: the way from ninety yards all the way from me

588
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: to one forty five. So it's a big gap. We

589
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: hit a lot of shots in that and it's nice

590
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: when you don't have to worry about too much about

591
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: taking stelf Off or this or that.

592
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: Or Yeah, Seamus, you played so well in the twenty

593
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: twenty two PGA Championship. I was reading some of your

594
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Speaker 2: quotes after and you were like, I wasn't that far

595
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: off from getting the playoff. It feels like that gave

596
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: you a lot of confidence. Can you kind of go

597
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: back to that Sunday after the great round on Saturday

598
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: and just what you were feeling at, like, how are

599
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: the nerves going into that final round?

600
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Actually felt great because I was I can't remember

601
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: what group I was. I was maybe fourth, last or fifth,

602
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't like right in it, but I wasn't

603
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: too far away, and it was that it was the

604
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: golf course was going to play. It played very difficult

605
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: that weekend, and yeah, I had chances like I I

606
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: look back, I I had a very makeable like BIRDI

607
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: pott on nine for maybe eight feet, a lot of break,

608
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: but still when you're hoping to make a three point

609
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: of ten like against a tough green, but you would

610
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have expected three pout of it, And

611
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: then had really good chances on like what was that

612
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: part five? Like thirteen I hit fluid right over the

613
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: top of the pin and only made a par and

614
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 1: lipped out on sixteen, didn't birdy seventeen. I was like,

615
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: there wasn't much out of a playoff in the end.

616
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: It was like, damn, what could have been? But that's

617
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: golf and it was fun to be And I hadn't

618
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: hadn't played many majors at that point, so it was

619
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: fun to kind of get get into a position like

620
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: that in the tour. And there's definitely a different feel

621
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: to them, Like you I heard it from guys forever.

622
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: They're like it, you kind of our majors feel different

623
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: even showing up on a Monday, and they definitely do.

624
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 1: And that was that was a special week. I had

625
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: a good run, like even in the US Open. Then

626
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: not too long after that it was another good run there.

627
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: So you have some some some positive stuff, so hopefully

628
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: you can kind of get back in there en this year.

629
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Speaker 3: James your your let's talk about your putter a little bit.

630
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: You're just playing the PLD three right, yeah, And and uh,

631
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: I'm in the office. Tony Serrano would always come in

632
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: and when you guys were working on that and talk

633
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: about the design, the Nuance. You were super involved in

634
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: the design of that putter.

635
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, Yeah, it was cool how I came

636
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: to be like I like Tony was kind of he

637
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: was sending me like designs. Yeah, and it looked it

638
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: was amazing, and he like some of the things he

639
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: was able to do. I've always been I found like

640
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: like all sorts of little custom things. I'm slower on

641
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: the stroke, so he's like put copper on the bottom

642
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: for a little bit more and all this. But I

643
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: love love the design, absolutely love it. And it originally

644
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: we designed it in the different huzzle so probably I

645
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: can't remember what number looks like the kind of the

646
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: bend huzzle and h but then I saw that like

647
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: the answers I think the answer fur huzzle I have

648
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: now and I absolutely loved it. It's been ever ever since.

649
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: I've gotten a few kind of variations, one like in

650
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: the ANSWERCU style head and one even this week like

651
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: like this small catch head yep. But it's hard to

652
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: get me out of it when I have absolutely love

653
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: it. It just it makes like I love I like the

654
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: size of it where it's like in between mine's like

655
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: it said, whatever you call it it's not the full

656
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: size mid mallage.

657
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah again a small mid mallage.

658
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, it's not particularly deeper and so

659
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very nice and I always though it

660
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: looks cool as well, like obviously in the All Black

661
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: as well. And yeah, Tony did a great job of it.

662
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: But it was fun to be involved on. I mean,

663
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how much he was taking on, but

664
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: just even to see like which line it was, he

665
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: was able to show me what options there are and

666
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and yeah, came out really well.

667
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely loved that. That was I mean that's probably six

668
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be six years ago maybe now, and yeah,

669
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty much didn't been in the bag ever since.

670
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was super cool.

671
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: I remember remember him working on it in our CAD

672
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: software and then he'd send you screenshots and back and

673
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: forth and from our iping data. That's our tool we

674
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: we put you on. Uh you know in iPod on

675
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: your measure putting shrow. You have always you mentioned it,

676
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: but you've always been on the slow tempo ratio side.

677
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: So our fitting logic there is that you need you

678
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: folks with the slower tempo ratio, do better with the

679
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: heavier putter. So is that something you've kind of noticed

680
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: just it is experimentally.

681
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels especially when you get to like

682
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: you just like slightly longer. I've always been excellent short putter,

683
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: so it's just trying to add a little bit more

684
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: to like mid to longer putts and just felt easier.

685
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: Felt you know, like if you get forty feet with

686
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: a regular weight putter. For me, I feel like I'm

687
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: taking it back to my waist to get it like

688
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: long enough. Yeah, so with the extra weight, it just

689
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit, a little bit of help

690
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: there where you kind of needed. But yeah, it's it's

691
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: great that one's a nice mix. I said it didn't

692
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: affect my short on his X and I love the

693
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: white line on top. It's clean and everything, and yeah,

694
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: it was great. I was lobbing to have it called

695
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: sp one but didn't quite get it.

696
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: Get there pushing through, you know what, Just win the

697
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Masters and the really start to make your nails. I mean,

698
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: I think that's the key. You'd go back to kind

699
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: of college days. You talk about a mixed bag, you know,

700
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: you get this ping bag full of clubs and then

701
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you play ping and then you

702
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: get to this point in this pro career we're helping

703
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: designing a putter. I mean, do you have these moments

704
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: where you kind of sit back and go, hey, I've

705
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: made it. But b this is pretty crazy from a

706
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: kid from Ireland that's going to you know, East Tennessee

707
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: State or whatever, and now all of a sudden, I'm

708
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: helping make this putter that you can sell and go get.

709
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I like, I've like I tried

710
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: to remind us of not to lose perspective on stuff

711
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: like as it is, it is pretty cool. Like it's

712
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: the biggest moment for me always is is with the

713
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: thing stuff is when you go into the vault and

714
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: you actually have because I remember going in there in

715
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: college and there was you know, you're blown away by

716
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: it and it's like you're looking for your favorite player.

717
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: And then like I have like some Potters in there now,

718
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: which is that's when it kind of hits it home

719
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: to me. But yeah, having to having the potter designed

720
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: was was was amazing and yeah, I mean, like it's

721
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: it's been a cool journey for me with Ping. I said,

722
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: I switched that I can't remember my freshman or sophomore year.

723
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: And I have.

724
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: I haven't changed anything almost since the seconds. So it's

725
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: been a it's been a really really cool journey. It's

726
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: like like Scott Sullivan, like, I mean I still when

727
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: I get this se himhen I'm in the office and stuff,

728
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: he's still in a which amazing, Like it's like he's

729
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: so good at his job. And that's like, I mean,

730
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: the staff and everything is being it's been. It's been amazing.

731
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: It's I always say, like, my my coolest thing that

732
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: I can say about paying is like over the years

733
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: is like when I was in college, you're treated incredibly well.

734
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: And I feel like, no matter like mini tours all

735
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: the way, but you're still treated incredibly well, Like no

736
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: matter what if you're struggling, if you're playing well, they

737
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: still treat you like incredibly well. It's it's amazing. The

738
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: equipment is fantastic because you have like you've got more

739
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: and more guys go to like that, I don't you

740
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: call like free agent type rights now? And I was like,

741
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: people ask me if you thought about that, and I

742
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: was like, if I thought I could find something better,

743
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: maybe I would. But like I like I don't think.

744
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: I like everything I have is it does exactly what

745
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. So like it's amazing equipment that

746
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: it's it's been a it's been a great.

747
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: Run, Shamus.

748
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about your driver in your

749
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: fitness training. You work with a friend of the pod

750
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 3: Mike Carroll do yeah, Irish influencer here. Yeah, it is

751
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: touching a lot of people with his with his fitness app.

752
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: You use this app, But what do you do on

753
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, the fitness side or maybe like to the

754
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: ball speed side with your driver, Right, you've lived in

755
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: the high one seventies, Yeah, I have sort.

756
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: So I've been actually talking a lot so I yeah,

757
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: but at the moment, I'm way down. I like hip issues.

758
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: Like the second half of last year. Everything feels good.

759
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: My speed isn't coming isn't back yet, so I'm working

760
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: a little bit more on it. But yeah, like that

761
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: was when I talked to I started with Mike in

762
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I think, and it was just talking was

763
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: I loved this stuff. It's very simple. You're not like

764
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: it was like new kind of technology and new stuff

765
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: where you're much more efficient in the gym with your

766
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: stuff and then obviously golfs. He was like, realistically, his

767
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: job is like to keep you injury free and to

768
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: then try, especially at my age like this, why would

769
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: have been like getting towards my mid thirties or was

770
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: like a minimum you want to be keeping your speed

771
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: ideally if maybe able to pick them up if you can. Yeah,

772
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: and all the stats now show how much of a

773
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: help it is. So yeah, doing a lot of stuff

774
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: at the moment, like swinging like speed sticks and doing

775
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and it's just trying to get used

776
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: to me moving. Probably from March April last year, I

777
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: was restricted like all year, and so I wasn't able

778
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: to swing at full speed and now my body kind

779
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: of thinks that's full speed. So it's trying to work

780
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: work that back. But then I'll see the West Coast

781
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: has been horrible weather, so I know it hasn't been

782
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: the most like confusive to to some speed. But yeah,

783
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: it's a huge part of golf, you know, and you're

784
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: trying to match that up with the equipment and then

785
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: like and that's that's what's been so interesting with the

786
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: when I gained a little bit of speed with Mike

787
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: first and then like you have to tweet the equipment

788
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: of all that stuff to strike all of a sudden,

789
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: it's like climbing a little bit too much with the

790
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: extra speed and this and that. So it's it's a

791
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: huge thing. You know, you see the stats of golf.

792
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Every you know you can gain the massive place you

793
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: can gain if you have it in if like if

794
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: it's in there. So trying me trying to get back

795
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: to something that I win seventies, it's only like the

796
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: low one seventies at the moment. So it's it's frustrating,

797
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: but it'll get there now once I get kind of

798
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: fully healthy.

799
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

800
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: That you bring up a good point that if a

801
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: player picks up like five miles an hour of club

802
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: speed and you delivered the same same angle of attack everything,

803
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna spin the ball like three hundred RPMs more.

804
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: So you have to refit your dry Yeah.

805
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, every Yeah, it's it's it is amazing, yeah,

806
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: every all. I mean that's obviously a big jump, but yeah,

807
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: even even a little jump, you can just see something different.

808
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: I react with the ball and kind of trying to

809
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: balance them up. But when you get him in it,

810
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: when you're when you really feel like you're swinging the

811
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: well with some speed and equipments. Right, you can see

812
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: a big difference. And that's when you see those like

813
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: stats really help me out.

814
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the crew is telling me you're around with radar

815
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: at home. Was like the Pope come into town. Like

816
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: it was crazy. People were coming out of the woodwork

817
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: to say, what's up. What's it like going home these days? Yeah,

818
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: that was a blast. Actually I'd never done anything like that.

819
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: It was really fun and it wasn't like the nicest

820
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: day ever, and I wasn't sure really what to do.

821
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: But he was like he's obviously done a lot, right, Yeah,

822
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: he's he's fun to be around. He made it, He's

823
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: made it such a great experience. But yeah, people coming out,

824
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to like limit some of

825
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the people because I mean I grew up in a

826
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: small town, so like something like that is not happening

827
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: very often. And you know that's like also I grew

828
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: up in and it's like, you know, I know so

829
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: many those people for twenty twenty five years. So yeah,

830
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: it was really fun. It was actually a great It

831
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: was a lovely morning right before the Irish Open was

832
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: that last Yeah, last year, so it worked out great. Yeah, Yeah,

833
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: it was fun time because he's still well able to

834
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: hit it and stuff, and yeah it was it was

835
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: a blast. I wasn't sure exactly how it would work,

836
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: but I was glad he'd give me a couple of

837
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: mulligans and that kind of stuff.

838
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I was like, tae something. Yeah, we've gone through that

839
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, I also saw you're a big reader.

840
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: You'reeah a history reader. So you're on the road, you're

841
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: watching stuff, or you're reading stuff.

842
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I probably mix it up, like I'll I probably, I

843
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: mean it's probably fifty to fifty. But I do like

844
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: reading a lot. Yeah, I just I've read a lot

845
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: of history stuff, all that kind of stuff. I'm reading

846
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: about a book, I'm reading the moment, like the Secret

847
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: History of the world kind of stuff like this, like

848
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: going back a couple of thousand years, so all this

849
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of I like reading that, like that sort of stuff.

850
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't read many novels and stuff anymore. I sometimes

851
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: when I'm flying, every novel's a little like easier reading.

852
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: But if I'm just sitting like in the room, like

853
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: I like reading more history stuff and all that. So

854
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: you want, what do you watch right now, not really

855
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: anything in particular. Are you like a brain dead watcher?

856
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: So like if you need to go to bed, you

857
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: got an early teach sometime trying to dive into like

858
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: some show that you've seen a million times.

859
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: It depends like late at night, someone's I'll put out,

860
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: like I'll often put on like The Office or something.

861
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: America.

862
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I actually always watched the American Yeah, yeah, I was.

863
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: I missed.

864
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I actually was late to both of them. I didn't

865
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: watch any of them month they were all done on TV,

866
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: so that was that's my one excuse. But yeah, it

867
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: is funny when Ricky Gervais makes it like appearances in

868
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: the in the America, So.

869
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like such a little easter egg.

870
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and i'd always watched the American one. First. When

871
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: I started watching like the British one, and the first

872
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: couple of episodes are identical. It was really funny because

873
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: but after you've seen The America when it's weird because

874
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: then you picture like each character a certain way, and

875
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's different. But yeah, they're they're

876
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: very funny. But you know, if I'm by myself, like again,

877
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I watch like docu series and they've like Netflix is

878
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: brilliant for World War two stuff and all kind of

879
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: interesting kind of stuff like that. So I'll usually I

880
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: find by myself. That's kind of what I'm much.

881
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: You ever dive into golf history stuff when you got

882
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: into that at all?

883
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Not really, No, like I've learned somebody, I'm not. I'm

884
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: not great with that stuff. I see, we didn't. I

885
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: didn't grow up around golf. Nobody in my family plays arounding,

886
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't like I you know, I remember it

887
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: was such a huge deal when Tiger win the mass

888
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: was in ninety seven. Yeah, but I wouldn't have really known,

889
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: like I it was only like when I maybe ten

890
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: years after, I was like, oh, Markomer won two minute,

891
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: Like when in ninety eight, I was like, it was

892
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: like ninety seven happened and nothing else happened like around.

893
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Till like the Tiger Slam, and then it was like,

894
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: oh he chipped in a five. It's like following that career.

895
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: So I was like a little later to it. So

896
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm not as as good with all that stuff obviously.

897
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: When you know, in Falo or something like that, or

898
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: something someone from like like Britain or a home won,

899
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: it was a big deal, but outside of that, it wouldn't.

900
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Be great with some of some of this stuff with it.

901
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: And you grew up playing junior golf, like against Shane

902
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Lowry and Rory was kind of coming up. Yeah, did

903
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: you play against him? Where were you in terms of

904
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: their level?

905
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: So well interested, So Shane was a late bloomer, like

906
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: so Rory. I think I was thirteen and Rory was

907
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: or was like fourteen. Roy was twelve. We were put

908
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: on some like panel together and he was like it

909
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: was amazing straight away, like it was. He was like

910
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: everyone at thirty fourteen is basically like you know, hitting

911
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: it out there and then chipping and podding and that's

912
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: how they kind of figure out to play. And he's

913
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: over there with his cut down little blade iron and

914
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: you're hitting high draws and you're looking at it. I remember,

915
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. It's like it wasn't great conditions. He

916
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: just like like he he was like small. He had

917
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: an e orc driver categories way down. He was ripping

918
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: these things and it was so strange, but he was

919
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: amazing right from the get go, like in an Irish

920
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: godf It was just he would do things you just

921
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine that. It just wasn't normal, Like he was

922
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: just hitting driver down these ferries that everyone else is

923
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: hitting two irons and four irons and he's just like

924
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: shipping it over this and that. So he was amazing

925
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: from the get go. I remember all the saying it's

926
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: like I hope he makes it because if he doesn't, like,

927
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: none of us have a chance. Yeah, but Shane was

928
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: later like I wouldn't have met Shane until we were

929
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: about seventeen, and then he got on like a lenser

930
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: team with the Province in Ireland and then he was

931
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: put on the Irish National panel and then all of

932
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, he like with this guy's this guy's amazing

933
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: and when they am right when the amor won the

934
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Open as an am or something, when the Irish Open

935
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: as an amateur, but he won that, like in between

936
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: he won everything as an amateur. It was amazing and

937
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: it was just it was it was just all of

938
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: a sudden, You're like, where does this guy just come from?

939
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: So he was he was a little different, but immediately

940
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: could tell he was going to be special as well.

941
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that those guys are amazing careers

942
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: and it's been fun to watch because I said, like

943
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: I've met them, like I've known him for so long.

944
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of amazing they've done, like they've done

945
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: so much for Irish golf. I mean, she's Rory is

946
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: gonna go down as one of the best players ever

947
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and it's just amazing. They've seen him right from the start.

948
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's pretty special. It's spill. It still blows

949
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: me away when I watch him hit the ball. It's

950
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: just it doesn't look like other people at all. It's

951
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: it is it's amazing and it's it's different level of stuff.

952
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, those guys, it's amazing how long they've been

953
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: on tour now, Like well.

954
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: Rory especially, you know, like you're going back to like

955
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: nine and ten. It's like when he started to like

956
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: win and compete and then twenty twenty four and he's

957
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: still one of the best in the World's crazy.

958
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: I think his first year and like he got like

959
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: turn pro and seven after the Walker Cup, I think

960
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: it wasn't somewhere around there. I mean, that's amazing, and

961
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean even Shane. I think this is maybe like

962
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: Shane's fifteenth year as a professional it's like in the

963
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: world it's amazing really years ago, but yeah, those guys

964
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: have have done so many amazing things, and yeah, it's

965
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: been really cool of kind of watching following us as

966
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: they've come up.

967
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 3: Shame as what was your time like like between college

968
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: turning pro and then you made it on tour? What

969
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: seven six seven years later somewhere?

970
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got my Yeah, actually six years after

971
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I finished in college on a pizza Jork.

972
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: What was that journey like your mini tour? Yes, corn

973
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Fair and.

974
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Marty in One of the keys to a lot of

975
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: these pros is like he won a lot, you know,

976
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: like if you kind of go through the resume, it

977
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: seems like you kind of won on the different stages

978
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: that he built up.

979
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I mean it was it was fun,

980
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't when I finished college first, then I

981
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out if I was going to

982
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: go then Europe play in the US. Eventually decided on

983
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: the US to move back at the end, so graduating

984
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: in like May or whenever it's April May and ten

985
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: moved back to Charlotte at the end of twenty ten.

986
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: Because the ego it's not even around anymore. But the

987
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: egof tour was and it was I tried tell me

988
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: like it was. It was a really well run tour

989
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: like my first year, like you'd get thirty thirty five

990
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: thousand for a win. It was like properly run. It

991
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: was really like they did a really good job. So

992
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: I went to you know, I started playing in twenty eleven,

993
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: and I mean, it's just shows, like it wouldn't have

994
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: had a whole lot of money turning pro I remember

995
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: my first tour. I'll never for house tell people this

996
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: is like whatever said. I think they might have been

997
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: like Wednesday through Saturday. So like I booked my hotel

998
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: to check out on Friday morning, Like I can't risk

999
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: this two hundred dollars if I missed the cut, so

1000
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: I nt really boost the complience too. But it made

1001
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the cut, Like and I remember, I think it is

1002
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever pulled back into the hotel, like

1003
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: sitting in the car park trying to connect to the

1004
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: WiFi to book it on Priceline again. But that's I mean,

1005
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: that's what you do with me. You're trying to keep

1006
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the expenses down. But I was very lucky, Like the

1007
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: egof tour was really it was very strong. So I

1008
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: ended up playing that for four years. You know, I

1009
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: like everyone else, I mean, who was like my first

1010
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: twenty eleven like I got through, was at second stage

1011
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: and Ben Curtis makes like a forty footer across the

1012
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: seventy second green to stop me from getting through second stage.

1013
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: We both would have got through. Like I didn't have

1014
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: a great last round, but I made like a ten

1015
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: footer in the last which I thought got me through.

1016
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Like when I got the scores sent, they were like,

1017
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: we think that got you through. And then I see

1018
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: this pot and you're like walking the car to go

1019
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: to the airports, like, I hope that didn't Can that

1020
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: please be for Bogie? So if he two puts, we

1021
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: go through. But anyway, don't get And that was when

1022
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: it was I guess the cards are back. But it

1023
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: was still like twenty five PG in the final stage

1024
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: and Patrick Reid like was at that stage. I mean,

1025
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: it was that same kind of timeline. And you know, twelve,

1026
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: I go to second stage. I think I missed by

1027
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: second stage by one or two shots. Again, I'm like,

1028
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: oh god, this is terrible. Thirteen, I go to first age,

1029
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: get sick at first age, finished like last I'm not

1030
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: sure I broke eighty because I was like I might

1031
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: as well try. Yeah, And then fourteen, I got had

1032
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: a great year and Mini Tours one multiple times, like

1033
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: did all sorts of cool things. But then you're going

1034
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: to still going to Q school and you're like, oh,

1035
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: this needs to count. But yeah, it's a CU school

1036
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: is a horrible like it's it's a tough tournament because

1037
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: you all your worrior was not playing. You're not worried

1038
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: but playing well, You're worried about not playing badly, right right,

1039
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: But like we was at the PG National and like

1040
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: it was six rounds and I chipped it stone dead

1041
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: for Birdie and I was going to finish like it

1042
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: was cards well locked up, but I was standing looking

1043
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: into the water and I was likez I was so relieved.

1044
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: It was just like and I was like I remember

1045
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: thinking it was like, dude, I gotta do everything. I

1046
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: can't make sure I'd never have to come back to

1047
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: this again. I haven't been backed. Whatever that was. I

1048
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen, So yeah, I got onto corn Ferry

1049
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: and then I don't rough start my first year on

1050
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: corn Ferry, but then kind of got my feet under

1051
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: me kept my full card and then I won in

1052
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and it kind of got me going and

1053
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: got my card into fall on the twenty sixteen.

1054
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: Marty, do you remember your first miniscore tournament?

1055
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was what tour was? It was?

1056
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: It was the Hilton Open and uh Scoro, New Mexico.

1057
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: Nice.

1058
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1059
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: How nervous were you and how'd you play?

1060
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: I was pretty I was pretty nervous because you're ponying

1061
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: up a lot of money split in the hotel room

1062
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: with three other players. The high score sleeps on the floor.

1063
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: That's good.

1064
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: That's good.

1065
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: But I turned this. I turned a little profit. I

1066
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: think it was like six hundred dollars entry. I made

1067
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: like nine to fifty nice. I paid for the next entry.

1068
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: Feel I think I told you this.

1069
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: My first mini tour event was Pepsi Tour out here

1070
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: in Arizona, and I made more money. I shot like

1071
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: seventy eight and I made more money on skins than

1072
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: the guy that won it. It was a mini tour

1073
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: tournament that had skins you could buy in. I made

1074
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: like two skins and one more than the guy that

1075
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: got first that day, and I was like, this is

1076
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough slutting.

1077
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: This is not gonna be the easiest thing in the world. Yeah, men,

1078
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Jors is not glamorous at all. It's tough gone. It

1079
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: is tough going.

1080
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: I like the high score sleeps on the floor.

1081
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: Yeah I always did that.

1082
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta put over the last Like how stress

1083
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: were you?

1084
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Like?

1085
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to sleep on the four my bass.

1086
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: That's what I'm worried about.

1087
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: Shamous goals for this year kind of what are you

1088
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: looking at? Is what you want to do an accomplished

1089
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: in twenty four.

1090
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's gonna be like like started every year,

1091
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be to have to get at least

1092
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: one win. I mean there's nothing like winning like I've

1093
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: been able to win twice, but it's just yeah, there's

1094
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: just nothing like that. So that's almost that's the one

1095
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: goes on the page first, and then for me, it's

1096
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: gonna be get back in the top fifteen the world.

1097
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: So the injury second half of last year is kind

1098
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: of like obviously wasn't an to pick up any points

1099
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then the other big one is gonna

1100
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: get to the tour championship. You know, the last two

1101
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: years now I've been inside the top thirty going to

1102
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then I haven't played as well as

1103
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I would have wanted. This last year I was with

1104
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: the injury. In the year before, I just didn't play well.

1105
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: So it's like, they're gonna be my big three, Like

1106
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of little you know,

1107
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: like statistical goals and stuff I have as well along

1108
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: the way, but they're gonna be my big three that

1109
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: I'll be kind of, you know, looking at kind of regularly,

1110
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: just to make sure I'm kind of head in the

1111
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: right direction. Do you have a golf course that's your

1112
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: favorite on tour? TBC saw Grass is hard to beat.

1113
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Like we we we're very lucky we play so many,

1114
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: but that's a that's there's something about I feel like

1115
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: it's such a great test of golf. There's short holes,

1116
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: long holds, like you gotta be able to draw out,

1117
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: fade and do all these things. And I always think

1118
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: it's a great sign when you look through the past champions,

1119
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: there's some long hitters, there's some short hitters. Yeah, I

1120
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: think that's a great sign of just playing. I mean,

1121
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: you really look at it. It's like, who played well

1122
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: this week?

1123
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: It's not favoring. I mean Rory's won there, Tim Clark's

1124
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: won there.

1125
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually very very different winners, and I think

1126
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's a great sign of a course. But

1127
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're like we're just coming like from Pebble.

1128
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: You get to play here with riviernex. I mean we're spoiled.

1129
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to pick one, like riv is not an

1130
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: amazing one. But like I think TBC Sawgrass to me

1131
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: is a great mix of everything. It's like intimidation factors,

1132
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: birdie chances, all these kinds of things mixed in together.

1133
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: And obviously it's a player of Shame as well. You know,

1134
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: it's the one it's a HiT's the non major one

1135
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: where everyone's looking to win, so I think that throne

1136
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: in as well. It's just it's just an incredible combination.

1137
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: Shim.

1138
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: So you you talked about some stats in your goals.

1139
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: Are you big stats guy? Do you dive into them?

1140
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: Do you use them?

1141
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 4: Are you kind of just lightly.

1142
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: Somewhere in between like the like some guys are. It's

1143
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: so interesting the statisticos of on course, I don't use

1144
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: as much as other guys, but I'm almost monitoring my

1145
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: own stats to like pretty closely to know because you could,

1146
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: like golf is a really strange game. Like sometimes you

1147
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: can come off of course and you're kicking yourself and

1148
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: you're you're telling your caddy, oh, you're sucking this and so,

1149
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: and then you look at the stats and you're like,

1150
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: huh because for some reason, one shot you might have

1151
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: had really annoyed jes Yeah, it might cover up like

1152
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: three or four other poor shots that you don't notice

1153
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: because everyone's the same. Like, at least for me, there's

1154
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: a certain myss that a player like will annoy your player.

1155
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: If you hit one of those, it'll cover up everything

1156
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: else whereas you hit three or four a miss that

1157
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: doesn't but bother you almost they almost can go unto

1158
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: the radar yea. But for me then you're always from

1159
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: like a good way of tracking, like the wages and

1160
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: like all that sort of the proximity to hold from

1161
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: certain yard is it's a fun way to practice too.

1162
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: It's like I look at the tournament and or even

1163
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 1: how you are in the seasons, like oh I'm down

1164
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and say seventy five two hundred yards. It's like extra

1165
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: little bit of time to practice that week and then

1166
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: you can kind of like, you know, next couple or

1167
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: next off week, I have it's going to be that

1168
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: improved a little bit, This one's down with and this

1169
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of go through it and you eventually get to

1170
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: all aspects of it. And it's, uh, I think it's

1171
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: a big part of it now. I mean, they know

1172
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: so much. The encore stuff to me is interesting because

1173
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: like strategy, strategy is yeah, if you see some of

1174
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: them and I some like I can see what they're

1175
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: what they're getting at, and I mean they're not trying

1176
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: to get any think these these are the stats, but

1177
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: they don't take into account like how a player sees

1178
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: certain holes. Like I was like travelers. I mean it's

1179
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: obviously very like, but travelers the ninth hole of travelers.

1180
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Like stat's say hit driver, hit driver, and I've I've

1181
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: stood there, and I was like, you can't see anything.

1182
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: You don't know where you're hitting it. It's like if

1183
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I if I pull list, it's in true like and

1184
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't suit me at all because I've always played it.

1185
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: I played it very well, playing it the way I

1186
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: like to see it play it, And stats are tricky

1187
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: like that. I like seeing the stats to see what

1188
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: they recommend, maybe trying it in practice and see if

1189
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: you like it or not rather than But I've also

1190
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: played with guys who just like that's what they do.

1191
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: They're like, this is a strategy pull.

1192
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: Club and they go like a computer.

1193
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like and some guys it's the same like with

1194
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the you know on the greens. Obviously they've reduced it,

1195
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: but like the am point stuff, remember like the books

1196
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago, the exact numbers. I

1197
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: played with Joel dam like, I hope he doesn't be

1198
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: saying this, but like.

1199
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 4: Whatever it is.

1200
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: But we played it pebble on and I was blown away.

1201
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Gino or him read one pot all

1202
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: day long, just because you know, they had it. It

1203
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: was so exact. They were like pacing it off and

1204
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: it's like this pot is this and I he put

1205
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: it really well, and I'm like blown away because I

1206
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: don't really I like reading pots and stuff. Always been

1207
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: a good potter. But I'm looking at this going is

1208
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: do I need to be adapting here or what? Like

1209
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: what's going on? So you kind of look into do

1210
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: a bit of research with it and see where I

1211
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: use it a little bit now in little spots, But

1212
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I think you golf is very unusually you have to

1213
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: sive through a lot of stuff to find out what

1214
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: you like and what works for you and other stuff.

1215
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Even though it might work amazing for certain like ten

1216
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: other players, if it doesn't work for you, you have

1217
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: to get rid of it and find something that does

1218
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: work for you. So I use the stats where I

1219
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: think that they helped me, and I look at them

1220
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: and I try analysm and see where I can make

1221
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: improvements where I have been improvement, so I can keep

1222
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: it there and do all that sort of stuff and

1223
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of just monitor myself.

1224
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: Basically, I like that approach to encore strategy. It's like

1225
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: the Daniel Kahnman book Thinking Fast and Slow. It's like

1226
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: using stats to delay your intuition. Right, So if you

1227
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: stand on nine at Travelers and they might might say

1228
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: do this, then it doesn't feel right, it doesn't You

1229
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: do what you gotta.

1230
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean like the NFL playoffs. I

1231
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: mean you think about earlier this year in the NFL playoffs,

1232
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: and like, you know, the Lions had this strategy which

1233
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: made sense for the regular season in the whole year,

1234
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: and at some point you go do you kick the

1235
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: field goal and go up through right. I mean, you know, analytically,

1236
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: what is it telling you to do? But you kind

1237
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: of got to like maybe potentially change it in certain situations.

1238
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I don't remember, like the Moneyball movie,

1239
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: they kind of go into that a little bit. One

1240
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games into like a five game series?

1241
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: Do you change it? And stuff? And I mean it's forever,

1242
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: it's all. It's in all sports.

1243
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: It's yeah.

1244
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: I was watched that Dan Cammell like should he have gone?

1245
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: Should you've not? And obviously so you can't separate yourself

1246
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: from the results because if they make it and get

1247
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: it's like this is what stuck to them all year.

1248
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: And then if they don't get al, so they should

1249
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: they have changed it. But like I mean, Greg Olsen

1250
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: was commentating and that's what he said. It's like they've

1251
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: done this all year. This is how it's gone. But

1252
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know it's gonna be It's gonna

1253
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: be a battle that will go on for a long time.

1254
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: And I'd say, like the older coaches and I of

1255
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: every sport must be looking at it like cringing. But

1256
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: then you see his up and coming guys, and they say,

1257
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: like they have that in the NFL. They have a

1258
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: book and it's like totally fourth and two from this line.

1259
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: It's it's it's out of green light, red light. It's like,

1260
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: you go, it doesn't matter, and that's statistically gives you

1261
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: a And Evan, so do you see the stats for that?

1262
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Them going for increased their chance of winning from like

1263
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: ninety four point two to ninety four point three. So

1264
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: technically he was correct, but they lost the game.

1265
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: Like it was like Dan Campbell and Greg Olson. I like, yeah,

1266
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: it was like football is out, the NFL is in.

1267
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just when I lived in Charlotte, like Gregor,

1268
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: I randomly met greg on a night out.

1269
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 2: Great guy, huh.

1270
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: I didn't get speaking for long as he was just

1271
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: so big. I was blown away. But it was like

1272
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: I was always a fan of from being in Charlotte

1273
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, it was just like stats, like

1274
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: that's the thing with stats, and every coach in every

1275
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: sport is gonna swear away what they believe, and it's

1276
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: like I feel like if you believe it strongly enough,

1277
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: it's probably the best strategy for you in a way.

1278
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be but I'm sure they all

1279
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: use it behind the scenes for a certain extent, but

1280
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: it's a yeah, it's a it's gonna be a long

1281
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: battle in sports. Before we let you.

1282
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: Go, I saw that you're a Pats fan. Now are

1283
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: you still a Pats fan? Because I know you're a

1284
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Brady guy. So are you staying with the Pats? Are

1285
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: you moving on somewhere else?

1286
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: So again, these things are filled out so long. I'm

1287
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: actually a Panthers fan because so when I moved to

1288
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: the US, the only team he would have heard of

1289
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: would have been doing the page. That would have been

1290
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: they were in the middle of winning everything and then

1291
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: the NFL had It's really very popular back home now,

1292
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: but it wasn't back then. So it was your favorite

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Speaker 1: like American sports team. Was like, that's the only one

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Speaker 1: I heard that you would have heard of, Chicago Bulls,

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Speaker 1: like the Lakers, maybe the Knicks, the Patriots, not many,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas call, but it wouldn't have been many teams.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I mean, they're good, so I

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Speaker 1: just put them out. But I'm actually a Panthers fan now.

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Speaker 1: So I live in Charlotte for ten years. But like

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Speaker 1: when I was in college, is off. I was following

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Speaker 1: the Patriots because they were only when I kind of

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Speaker 1: knew of. But then when I moved to Charlotte, I lived, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, three hundred yards in the stadium and it

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Speaker 1: was cool and so became like a Panthers fan. And

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been the best time for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this year wasn't great. Get better, say well, Seamus,

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Speaker 2: really appreciate the time apably with you, A great kind

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Speaker 2: of learning a bit more about you, not just as

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Speaker 2: a golfer, but as a human. And I hope you

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Speaker 2: have a great year, hope you stay healthy and hit

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Speaker 2: it a lot longer.

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Speaker 1: Good equipment. Excited to see you go. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: That's shamous power. This is the Ping Proven Grounds podcast