WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Daryl Hall 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:10.320 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio, Ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.800 This is Quest Love Supreme. Today marks the conclusion of 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:18.759 what I feel is an instant classic episode. As I 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.800 expressed in the previous recording that I personally like one 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:28.040 on one qls's meaning one artist to the show as 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.000 opposed to group scenarios. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.640 So that way, you know, it's always you get two sides. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.680 Of a story of the same story, sometimes where you 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:40.920 get the same identical story. But previous episode we talked 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.600 to one half one of my favorite duos and the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.720 music one of the most successful duos and music. And 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.640 now we are given the honor and the pleasure of 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.800 speaking to the voice the soundtrack, I mean, the personal 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.000 soundtrack of my childhood. And I'm, you know, a Philadelphian. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.120 So this episode is doing me some pride right now. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.960 What else can I say? But the one and only 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:13.760 Daryl Hall, he slept Supreme. Welcome start all right, by 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:14.280 the way. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:14.679 Team Supreme. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.920 I'm sorry I didn't even acknownce you how damn he 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:18.720 was waiting for that. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:22.920 I was gonna say, it's okay, it's Darryl Hall. We're 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:24.000 all a little fanned out it's. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.120 Fine, no, no, no, but in my mind I'm still feeling 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.840 like this is a continuation of the episode. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.720 But yes, we can let the world know that a 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.400 week or two went by and uh, you know. Yes, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:34.479 So how are you doing? 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:34.760 Like you? 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.959 I'm doing great, I'm ready, I'm so good. This is yeah, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:40.679 life is complete. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:40.880 Man. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.000 Really, I got to ask some personally, even though this 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.080 is inconsequential to our viewers who could only hear us 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.560 and not see us, but I feel like every time 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.520 you do an episode, you're doing it from another part 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:52.960 of your house or I see it. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.960 I said, this is actually my studio house. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.280 Oh yeah, this is mine too, Okay, exactly, that's what 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:02.960 it is, a mere it's my studio house. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.200 All right. Well no, I'm just I'm impressed with every 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.280 episode you seem to be in a new part of 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.640 your house that I've never seen before. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.919 And it's the way I think my quest love Supreme 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.920 Brothers to truly come to my house. So yeah, this 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.200 is the way I'm doing it. Maybe one day y'all come. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.560 Okay, well one of us will have to agree to 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.480 get on a plane, but that will say that for 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:27.240 another episode. Okay, baby Bill, Yes, how's it going, sir. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.720 Fantastic congratulations to you you. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:32.960 I'm great man. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.520 You've been winning awards like handover whatever that expression is. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.120 And we have to do some flowers a beer flowers 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:41.600 for a beer. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:48.680 Congratulations. Yes, thank you, thank you for that deflection. Thank you. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:49.359 Well. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.240 You know. Also, you fin you finished a milestone in 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.639 your the show that you're working on, Testame Street. You 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.680 finally finished. I guess season fifty. I assume we. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.919 Finished just last week season fifty three. I think fifty three. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:06.840 Season fifty three. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.280 Also, wait, this is what I do want to know, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.200 because I'm not an active watcher of Sesame Street now 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.760 that I'm fifty one years old as I was when 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.000 I was a kid. But the death of mister del 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.720 Gato aka Luis on Sesame Street, was he still an 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:29.160 active character on the show even or did he leave beforehand? 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.640 He left but came back a little while ago. He 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.240 was back and forth, but he was like a definite presence. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.160 All of the humans sort of humans, the humans, all 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.000 of the actors on that show sort of are always 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.000 sort of omnipresident. I play it's Bob and so like. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.960 Maria, Bob and Susan and Gordon like, they're still occasionally 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:50.280 come back on the show to do stuff. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.800 Yeah, like most recently they around for season We had 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.320 a big reunion for season fifty a couple of years ago, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.840 and they were definitely there for that. And I saw 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.400 him at that and he's a fantastic like Emelio, like 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.560 played the guitar really well and saying really well, and 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.760 it was just a consumt a musician and a wonderful 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:04.200 human being. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.880 It's really sad, but yeah, when you put when you 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.720 put me on the float, I think I got to 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.280 meet some of them and that was really cool. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.000 You make it seem like I physically placed you upon 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.680 the Thanksgiving Day float, and I will take full credit 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:15.840 for that. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.000 Well, you know, I'm trying to. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.560 Give you props, Bill because I don't want people to 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.960 think that you're just like the Flavor of Flace sidekick, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.320 Like you're. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.600 You're a major staple in the circle. Man you are. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.120 You know, you're writing brought hit Broadway shows and producing 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.760 my platinum albums. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.279 And just for the record, I'd be happy to be 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.760 a Flavor Flap sidekick. I'm totally fine with that. But 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:38.440 that's very nice. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.240 I'm I'm throwing some flowers back to you, sugar steans 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.160 you okay, even though you're upgrading your computer right now, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.440 you're doing this on your telephone. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.520 I'm really good. Thanks for asking. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.120 I actually wont a Schmuky award last night, and I'm 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.640 thinking about buying my own paper airplane. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.120 Okay, like like it, don't. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.440 Step on my punchlines in front of Daryl Hall. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.080 I'm sorry. You know you heard me. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.040 I'm sorry anyway, fon Tikeolo good So I'm good, brother, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.320 I'm good, man, I'm good. Congratulations to you, man. I 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.559 was happy to see that straight. I appreciate that. Yeah, 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.360 now we can finally. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.920 Get to the business. First of all, Sir Daryl Hall, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.680 are you in the world famous Darris House right now? 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.719 I'm in I'm in my studio house. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.719 Okay, explain that this is different than the Daras house 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:30.880 that I've seen on television. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.080 Yeah, it's a different house and age. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.080 That is bullershit. I like this. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.560 I like where this is going already, if you, if 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.680 you guys can see what we see right now, like 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.279 maybe besides Will Smith, I've not seen a person be 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:52.040 so imaginative with their surrounding. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.440 Yes, this is this is this is a next. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:06:01.680 Room man to Imaginative one one Light. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.720 So so as I so, as I said on on 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:09.480 the top of the show, we we talked to your 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.080 your partner for over five I don't know, maybe six 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:19.080 decades John Oates about his experience musical experiences in his life. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.800 And and now's your turn, because you know, although you 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.599 too share common ground, you two also have done different endeavors, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.960 and so I kind of wanted to make this more 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.239 one on one instead of like the the group project. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.320 So for you right now, like where where do you? 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.000 Where do you call home? Where do you reside? 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:38.640 Right? 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.359 I'm in Connecticut right here? I I you know, I 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.080 have a house in London too, So I kind of 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:43.800 go back and forth. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:45.599 Nice what party in London? 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:47.680 Uh? In Kensington? 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:49.120 Nice? 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:49.600 Okay? 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.719 I used to live in Kinsistown. Okay, all right, yeah, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.840 Kinnistown in London. When when did you cop a spot 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:57.360 in London? 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.000 When I've been since the seventies? 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.480 Oh? What forever? 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.839 So you're a dual citizen. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.920 Right sort of. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.240 Wow London? What made you choose to go over there? 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.280 I just I had an affinity for it, just from 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.320 the very beginning. It kind of it reminded me of Philadelphia. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:19.440 It's so crazy play. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.240 Oh wow, we are a little cleaner than that. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.840 Well yeah, well some parts, some parts. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.240 No, no, no, but you know what, he he has 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.000 a point because the roots coming from Philly. We had 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.440 to choose somewhere in Europe to live and it was 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.800 definitely something like should we move to Paris and we 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.520 moved to d And it was something about London that 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.080 called us and so. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.800 There's something familiar about it, you know, very much. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.360 So so that's okay, Well that that's that's cool to hear, Like. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.920 Are you in a city part of London London or 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.400 is it more like a quiet place or like what? 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:03.880 Because I know oftentimes artists will have their city residents 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.800 and then they'll have a spot that you know, is 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.760 more quieter. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.320 I mean I understand that now. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.240 Like I never thought I'd be a person that would 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.320 get a farm, but I just got a farm because 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.320 I actually felt I'm more creative when I'm isolated and 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.520 then silence. So for you, is having a dual housing 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.400 situation more about like getting a spot that's quiet and 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.440 then a part that's immersed in the city or just 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.560 or just to have a city in Europe just in 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.520 case you just want to Well. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.640 It's it's actually kind of the same thing. I you know, 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.520 I live out in the country here and when I'm 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.480 in America and then my city house is a London 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.600 and I mean I have a it's like a tell 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.600 it's you know, row house, townhouse. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:46.160 Same. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.160 Okay, yeah, So is it important as a creative for 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.319 you to have a spot that's that's quiet and more 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.520 isolated and allows you to be creative or like again, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.800 as as a newbie person that just purchased his spot, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.680 I mean, I did it because the pressure of the 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.040 pandemic forced me to do it. But you know, otherwise, 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:11.080 I'd never understood artists that were like, yo, man, I 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.840 need the country life is important, Like, I mean, I 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.920 get the importance of silence now. But obviously you got 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.320 this house that you're now way before the pandemic. So 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.960 what was the attraction of, Like, you know, I'm thinking 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:27.280 like rock stars wouldn't want to be so isolated outside 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.680 of the chaos and the hustle and bustle of what 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.720 the industry was. So what was your decision to get 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.000 a country spot. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.720 I don't know, man, I've always sort of had one 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.720 foot in the country. I went for the city I 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.200 grew up. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:40.840 I grew up. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.680 I didn't grow up in Philadelphia. I grew up in Pottstown, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.680 you know, out in Chester County, and uh, you. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.600 Know I considered that, Yeah, Phillly adjacent. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.560 It is, but what I hey, I'm an old guy. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.200 You know it was. It was in those days. It 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.760 was really good and uh, you know, I grew up in. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.200 A colonial house, so all that kind of stuff, you know, 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.080 I mean it was as I grew up in that world. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.680 You know. My family were farmers and you know, and 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:09.640 so I grew up that way. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.319 But I was also part of the city. It's always been. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.960 It's always been kind of schizophrenic with me. It's this 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.240 city and country together, and I sort of need both 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.439 of them. I need one to balance out the other side. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.520 Do you remember what your very first musical memory was. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.800 Probably seeing my what my mother and father both were musicians. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.200 See my mother in a band, I mean, my mother 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.280 was in it was in a band in post Town, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.679 and I was like, yeah, from the age of two 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.480 years old, I'd watched the band and I always wanted 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.240 to be the band leader, you know, the guy that 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.760 had the he had like a white coat on. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.040 Everybody else had red coats on. He had a white 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.000 coat on. So yeah, I was I wanted to be 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:50.440 that guy. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.200 What does Daryl Hall's mom's voice sound like? What is 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:54.160 her singing voice? 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.240 She was a soprano. She's ninety eight years old now 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:03.440 and up man, she's still six, but yeah, she she's 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.320 amazing singer, amazing soprano. And my father was in a 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.800 gospel group, a vocal group, and so I learned harmonies 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.480 from from him and his brothers and his friends and 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.439 all that. So I, you know, I grew up in 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.079 that the whole that whole world. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:23.480 Were they closer to do wop or more Mills brothers 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:24.360 or like harmony? 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:30.280 Like what was their church harmony? You know, like gospel harmony? 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:36.439 Okay, but when you say quartet, I'm thinking of I'm 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:44.480 thinking of below, you know, right? Okay, what's your siblings situation? 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.599 How many are you? How many brothers and sisters do you? 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:49.680 I have once? 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.960 I have a sister, one sister. She lives up here 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.000 in Connecticut too. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.360 And she musically inclined as well, she. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.760 Is, but she's an artist. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.520 She does all my visuals, you know, she does everyally, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.120 from my album covers to my T shirts to everything. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:03.760 Yeah. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.560 Really, how long has she been collabing with you? 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.480 Well, as long as we've been alive. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.160 So even in the days of like she was like 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:14.640 she was. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.720 She was the visual artist and I was the singer. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.120 You know, we both do both things. But that's how 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.839 it sort of panned out even we were kids. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.760 I know that I've seen you as a keyboard player. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.000 I believe I've seen you play guitar once or twice. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.600 But what was your your first weapon of choice growing 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.880 up as far as the instrument that you use Jano? 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.680 Yeah, when I was like five years old, I started 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.480 taking piano lessons, but I was a singer before that. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.440 You know, my mom taught me how to think because 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.920 she was sort of a vocal teacher too, and she 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.679 taught me how to sing from age zero, you know. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.720 I mean I was always okay. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.640 Yeah, Well, I know that you have sort of history 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:59.880 and Philadelphia proper, So can you tell me what, like 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.959 when you started gravitating towards metropolitan Philadelphia as opposed to 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.760 outside of Pottstown. At what time did you start going 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.280 to Philadelphia proper? 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.440 Short of when I was a teenager, I would go 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.320 I would go in because they used to have trains 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.560 in those days from Pottstown. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.920 So I used to goin and my friends were in there, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.520 and and I moved right out of high school. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.000 I moved to Philadelphia. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.280 Okay, so you're talking about like the R five or 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.600 the R three, like those high speed trains that Septa. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.319 Yeah, there was like the Reading Reading railroad and all 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:30.840 that stuff. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:32.160 Yeah. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:37.360 Even even when we asked John about the time that 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.320 you guys put in during those those years in the 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.000 sixties in Philadelphia, he said that you would have more 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.839 intricate stories because of your involvement with like Gamble and 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.160 huff and like all those groups around. But could you 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.000 could you basically describe to me what the Philly environment was. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.560 I guess you know, your teen years was in the sixties, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.840 so you know, if you wanted to see your like 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.000 of the acts of the day that you saw, like 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.440 where where would you see them? And what acts would 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:09.200 you see of the day. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.000 I used to go to the Uptown. I mean I 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:12.560 I I. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.120 Lived in the Uptown basically, and I would see everybody 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.880 there and and I was I got involved right away 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:25.320 with with Kenny and Leon I actually did a talent 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.200 show at the Uptown with the group I had, the Temptones, and. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.800 We won the talent show. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.800 So I got a I got a deal, and I 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.440 went to Virtue Studios and did a and did a 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.760 record with the with the Romeos with Kenny Gamble. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:42.880 What year was this? 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.920 Around nineteen sixty seven? 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:46.760 Sixty seven? Got you? 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.240 You must have been a crazy extrovert, not very shy 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.120 like you sound like you were crazy confident from the jump, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.040 because to go into Philly and just dive in and 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:54.600 just talk. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.480 To folks, you know what I have? I always had 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.480 confidence in the music area. I'm not exactly. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.360 I wouldn't call myself an extrovert by any means, but 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.000 you get when you get into music, then yes, suddenly 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:10.320 I shine. I you know, I do have confidence. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:15.080 Indeed, was it unusual for you in the late sixties, 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.760 because I'm assuming that you're you're kicking it with the 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.480 brothers in terms of like, you know, if you're at 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.720 the you know, having met like Danny and the Juniors 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.520 and and the Dovels and those other like Philly doo 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.120 wop legends that were kind of around my father's era, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.560 Like you know, I'm not hearing them telling these stories about. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.640 Yeah, man, we just always good to own town whatever whatever. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.520 But for you, was there not a novelty factor? But 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.360 was it unusual for people to see a white guy 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:50.640 be so immersed in soul in the mid to late sixties. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.400 It didn't seem so unusual. Believe it or not, it 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:56.960 was it was it was a different time. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.960 I don't know, man, I mean, will you talk about 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.160 Dovel's they all went Overbrook. I mean, those guys, they 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.920 were they were in it big time. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.320 Really, I'll be honest with you, because like a lot 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.760 of my education just comes from like the revival shows 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.640 that they were doing in the seventies and eighties, like 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.880 past the I don't know if I have a visual 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.640 of of of any of the Philly legends in their prime, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.640 you know, late fifties, sixties, because obviously I wasn't born then. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.560 Guys really well, okay, so Lenny, Mike Freeda and Lenny 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:36.360 Barry really close friends of mine, and yeah, yeah, they 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:37.000 were real. 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.560 Man, I mean they came from they came from the 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:39.040 real thing. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.120 Well, I got to ask an eyewitness, have you ever 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.720 seen my dad before? This is one of the weirdest 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.240 questions on this show. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.800 One of the first records I ever bought was your dad. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.160 Really see again? Only I only know that dad. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.920 I only know my dad from the second phase of 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.600 his career, because there really was a documentation of, you know, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.720 of his career before then. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.280 So I can only go on word of mouth of. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.199 Oh, I used to see your dad's stories. Then I 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:10.679 want to know. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.000 Well, yeah, so okay, Like, can you tell me what 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:18.680 a typical lineup was in if you were going to 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.240 to the Uptown in Philadelphia, which for our listeners out there, 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.520 you know, there are a few there are a few 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:30.520 houses for black acts that were quote unquote upscale in 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.480 the Chiplan Circuit. If you're in New York, the Apollos 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.159 a Highlight. If you're in d C, the Howard. If 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.280 you're in Chicago, Uh, is it the State Theater? 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.120 I believe, Yeah, Yeah, I. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.440 Think it's the State. Yeah. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.640 And if you're in Philadelphia, you're you're you're at the Uptown. 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.560 Could you explain like what a typical bill would look 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.679 like like is it hosted by Georgie Woods? 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.200 Is it you know, is it an all day thing? 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:57.359 Like? 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.560 Do you go there twelve in the afternoon, you stay 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.600 till all the shows are over. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.239 I used to do that occasionally. Yeah, I mean it 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.680 was it was whoever was popular at the time. You know, 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.000 it would be anybody for like Billy Stewart, Demand Lads 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.960 to Well Gladys Slade and the Pips and the Temps 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:20.360 obviously and everything in between. I mean, it just depended 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.000 who was, you know, who was touring at the time. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:24.720 You know, my generation. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:30.120 If you go see Okay Run DMC, you're expecting an 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.760 hour or so of just that act. But I mean, 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.199 was there ever an act that I mean, I know 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.600 that James Brown was his own self contained unit, but 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.280 even he had a variety show. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.840 But was it just expected for like. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.360 An act to come out and do fifteen to twenty 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.280 minutes and then that's it and you're out. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.720 Yeah, that was usually the way it was. People didn't 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.040 do long shows. It was it was usually some kind 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:59.440 of review, you know, in a mixture of people. For sure. 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.560 Okay, I never knew this what review meant, thank y'all. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.040 I kind of knew that it meant. It was a 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.520 time limit. When you say review referring to a. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.199 Show, Yeah, like you know, just from the days of 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:13.920 like well, I meant most people sight yeah, or even 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:18.480 like modern the modern era of like where Mom Rainey's yeah, 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.239 Mom Rainey's traveling circus and then that sort of you know, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.640 morphed into vaudeville, which then morphed into the review, which 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.200 I mean at the time only Motown and James Brown 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.440 really had a strong enough presence to carry you know, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:34.560 other people with them. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.119 Multiple Yeah. Back in the day, it was it was 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.080