1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Single US Idea Today. Thank you to Apple for rolling 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: this out. We're really thrilled with the initial effort of 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: It's a six or seven minute look at two of 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: our guests today today, we could have done like ten 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: different guests. I thought Linda Dousl of Federators, mess Rising, 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Greg Peters clipping coupons over at p JIM is just 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: a really, really solid show. We're going to do Javier Blast. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: We have I mean, come on, folks, we have the 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: surveillance extra virgin correspondent. We're going to go to that 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: in a moment. You gotta do Javier Blast the success 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: of his book in oil. We're going to talk about 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: a different oil. But first and what happens is we 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: have people that we can book like in a moment's notice. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: We have people that save us when somebody has to cancel, 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: there's an emergency, whatever. We've got people that you know, 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: you send out an email do you want to be 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: on Bubba Bah? They go yeah, sure. And then we've 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: got people that are so crazy busy it's like a 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: three day, five day ordeal to get him on. One 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: of those is James Steele. He is at HSBC. You 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: know Max Kettner, Steve Major over in Hong Kong. James 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: Steele is an absolute institution in gold. About more than 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: just where's it going up down sideways? About the culture, 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 2: the fabric. Are they buying gold in Dubai? What kind 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: of gold are they buying? How does jewelry play in etc. 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: And so for days we've tried to get James Steele 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: on with gold moving up, getting near twenty four hundred 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: dollars an ounce. And of course every analysis, every article 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: has to begin with China. Here is James Steele on 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: China's buying of gold. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: It's a default play. In the case of China specifically, 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: the property markets have been very weak, the equity markets 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: have been very weak, and this narrows the universe that investors, 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: you know, big and small, are likely to look for, 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: and gold is a great safe haven. Now we're seeing 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: the same thing abroad, but the equity and property markets 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: haven't fallen abroad. And in the case of Western markets, 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: I think what we've seen is asset managers, portfolio managers 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: and the like have recognized that equities are very high. 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: They have no choice in many cases, but to be 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: in the equity markets, but they have a choice about 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: how they hedge. 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: James Steel there of HSBC really informative conversation. Look for 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: that the entire conversation Bloomberg podcast. What's important here is 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: how we treat commodities. They're an odd duck. They've always 47 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: been in our heritages to talk to Global Wall Street 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 2: about it. Francisco Blanche, Bank of America, Jeff Curry, ex 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: Gulb and Sex moving on from City Group to Hallmark. 50 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: But the bottom line is we're always trying to talk 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: to interesting people. And some can be like gold, what's 52 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: it gonna do? And others can be saying ConA Hake 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: at ed and f who was on the other day, 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 2: And ConA Hake is encyclopedic about the softs like cocoa 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: and that. So that's how we're approaching commodities here. Haven't 56 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: talked much about copper. Eric, we gotta we gotta do copper. 57 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: We mean, doctor copper, we gotta we do that as well. 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: And so it's interesting here that we tackle the commodities. 59 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes a commodity is thrown at us. I almost slipped 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: when Jave Blass said to me, Tom oil and I said, 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: of course, Brent West Texas. He said no. He said, 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: the moonshot which you've seen in Aisle seven at your 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: grocery store, which is olive oil. Jave Bloss has been 64 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: lights out about this, and of course it's hilarious about 65 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: his election that you can only have Spanish olive oil. 66 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: I have no idea the differences, but actually read about it, 67 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: and I guess there's some justification to it. Here is 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: a surveillance extra version correspondent, the giant of hydrocarbons, Javier 69 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: blasts and Spanish olive oil demand. 70 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Olive oil from a space is always going to be 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: booming is excellent. I'm a bit biased, but it is excellent. 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: Our prices, yes, couldn't used for connoisterers of olive oil 73 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: that enjoy not only the Spanish one, but Portuguese, Italian 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: and other origins. Prices that are starting to calm down. 75 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Has been raining quite of southern Europe. The expectation is 76 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: that the next club would be better. So prices are 77 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Wholesale prices are down twenty percent since the peak in January. 78 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: We have get to see these translated into retail prices, 79 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: but it will come. 80 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: We try to be polite there. What happens afterwards Pharaoh 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: got upset? Is it goes after Italian olive oil. I 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: have no idea, Folks, if you want to email me, 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: in it out on YouTube live chat, explain to me 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: which olive oil you prefer. One day we had a 85 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: bottle of morocc At olive oil. I couldn't. I just 86 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: couldn't tell the difference. That's all there is to it. 87 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: It is single best idea. Two conversations that we have 88 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: on Bloomberg Surveillance every day. 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Michael Barr is Michael 99 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Barr and Lisa just looks lovely. So our faces are 100 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: out there now, which makes it better. You can tune 101 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: in there and also program note I'm gasping here because 102 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: they need some olive oil. Program note Bloomberg Originals. This 103 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: is a new distribution and it's out on Apple TV, 104 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Samsung TV, and Fire TV. So look for us on 105 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: Apple carput on YouTube, and a Bloomberg Originals. Good morning,