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It's the show that she 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In occasion didn't notice I'm not broke. 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, It's 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here we go. 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations. I am your host, Rashan McDonald. 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Like I said every week on this show, I tell 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: people and I recommend to stop reading other people's success 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: stories and start writing your own. We always talk about gifts, 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: we talk about passions. I tell people to leave with 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: your gifts and lord that your age, friends, family, and 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. My 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: interviews are with celebrity ceo, entrepreneurs, and people I like 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: to call industry decision makers. My next two gifts can 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: be seen every Saturday night starring and Owns Love in 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: Marriage hunt Field. There are the power couple Kimmy Scott 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: and Maurice Scott. They're part of Owns Real Drama Weekend. 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Kimmy Scott is an entrepreneur, real estate agent, a registered 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: nurse by trade who received both our undergraduate and graduate 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: degrees from the University of Alabama and Huntsville. She's also 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: a member of Delta Sigma, Thetum and as a passion 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: for cooking. Maury Scott is a consumer law attorney, real 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: estate investor, entrepreneur. He is the law firm United Legal. 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: He is the owner of Credit one U s A. 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: He's the older brother of mar Saul Scott, who I've 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: had on the short as well as Tea Shirt who 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: was also stars on the short. As you know, kimm 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: and Maurice got married the first season of the show 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: and still, as I said that Riding the Bio, have 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: not went on the honeymoon. We'll find out about that. 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: They're coming on the show to talk about the new 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: season of Owns, Love and Marriage Huntsville, which sometimes can 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: be a mess, but we're talking about entrepreneurship, which is 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: always filled with drama. Please work with the money making conversation, 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Kimmy Scott and Maury Scott. Everybody, well, thank you for 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: coming on the show. First for all, let's get let's 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: do a little history on the show. You know, when 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: the show was launched, Um, how did you guys get 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: invited to do the show, and why did you accept 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: to do the show. You can each individually respond how 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: you want to. I just want to just get a 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: response in such a stage for the audience as to 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: who I'm interviewing. H Well, we uh we got introduced 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: to the show by a great idea from Melody Home. Okay, um, 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: we are all you know, we're all friends and we're 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: sitting around and then Mail comes up with this, you know, 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: genius idea of hey, let's do a reality show. So 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: we uh, we were invited to do a couple of 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: different pilots and things that we were filming for a 70 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: little while, and then she got Ricarlos and the magic happened. Kimmy, 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: that's somebody say it's magic, But when you put your 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: personal life out there and it's getting the social media 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: and sometimes it can be unmagical. Talk about some of 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: the the unmagical things that have happened. Because he said, 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, because more we said was brilliant. Now I 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: when to watch the show, and like I always say, 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: you have one of the most animated faces I know 78 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: on television. Okay, you know you're one of the people 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: you can you tell it all on your face. You 80 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: can just as they say, you can just be smiling, 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: but I can look in your eyes say, well, she's 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of mad at this situation. So talk about your 83 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: experience and then being allowed to, uh, you know, share 84 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: your your personal life is where as your professional life, 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: and then people can judge you because editing doesn't always 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: tell the true story. Correct. Correct, very much so correct 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: um he he loosely uses the term magic happen because 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: everything you just said literally is a correct and from 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: time to time you do kind of revisit your choice 90 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: to actually be one reality. At the moment, I believe 91 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: that both of us feel like the pros outweigh the 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: funds um and the biggest kind of which is people 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: voicing their opinion about your edited forty two minutes life. 94 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: So that's always a tough part, we know. And so 95 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: when I hear this two things you said Maurice and Kim, 96 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: and you said it was a great idea. Now, whenever 97 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: I look at reality show, especially shows like this, I 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: see a business opportunity because if you have a business, 99 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: your entrepreneurs like you are, you can promote it. You know, 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: you can build your brand and it can lead to 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: sex stories. It may not happen if you didn't have 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: this platform. With that being said, Maurice, so you started 103 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: with the word magic and brilliant. Let's talk about how 104 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: has that helped your business because I mentioned earlier you 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: have a law firm called United Legal and you're also 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the owner of Credit one USA. Well, it's helping me 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: significantly reach a broader audience. Right, Like, we had clients 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: all across the nation that we're helping as far as um, 109 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: get their finances in order and actually participating in the market, 110 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: whether it's the Halloween market, is this market? Um, everything 111 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: boiled down to credit. So getting that consumer finance and 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: then moving on to consumer law, that's a whole different 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: area and a lot of consumers have no idea about 114 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: the different laws that are in place that protect them. Uh, 115 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: make sure that they're able to keep all the money 116 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: that they're earning. And then uh, there's some other things 117 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: that we're working on as well. But overall, as far 118 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: as the business aspect is concerned, I mean marketing. You know, 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: it's really interesting that Okay, Kimmy, you're a real estate 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: agent and then more as your real estate investor, and 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: we look at the housing market, and it is like 122 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: fire everywhere. You know. My younger brother he sold this 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: house in DC and I say within a week it 124 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: was sold, literally a week. My wife put her mom's 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: house on in Houston, Texas and they had like fifteen offer. 126 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: In fact fact, it was bidded up above the the 127 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: the the value that they had asked for at the time. 128 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: What is driving nationwide, not just in certain pockets of 129 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the country. What is driving this high momentum for home 130 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: home ownership? UM? I personally believe that it's uh, it's 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: a false scarcity. Um. Right now we have this moratorium 132 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: on foreclosures and that right there is pushing housing values up. 133 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: And I think that right now we're experiencing a bubble 134 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: of such that UM, smart people would save money and 135 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: get prepared because we've seen this before. Now, Kimmy, you 136 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: you're the agent. You're out there, I want to say, 137 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: when you said the agent, you're out there doing the sales. 138 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: You're out there, if I'm mistaken, out there taking people 139 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: in and suggesting these home prices. And so you're seeing 140 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: the shift. I see you more. And Maurice as an investor, 141 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: so you see the options from a different perspective, but 142 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: you're seeing the perspective from an actual customer perspective, correct, Kimmy, 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: all right, um, and from I agree with what Marie 144 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: said as well. UM, I don't know if it's all 145 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: of false security of availability, but at the moment, it's 146 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: just the seller's market and there's literally more buyers in 147 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: the market than there are homes to purchase. And the matorium, 148 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: as he mentioned, just got lifted out of the nationwide. 149 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Different states have lifted there's at different times, um, but 150 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: the end of the month was that particular time. And 151 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: if people don't know what that is, that was where 152 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: there was a law passed that you couldn't put people 153 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: out of their homes if they didn't keep up with 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: their payments based on the pandemic and having had issues 155 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: financially with the pandemic. Um. And there are millions of 156 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: people who had trouble and this was helpful to them. 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: So now that that has been taken away, we're hoping 158 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: that it will balance out the availability of homes again 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: and um, just a little bit so that it kind 160 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: of comes down. But right now it's simply not enough 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: properties for the amount of people that want to purchase them, 162 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: and the interestry to interest rates are great. Um. And 163 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: so all of that kind of plays a role in 164 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: people wanting to sell their home because they want the 165 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: biggest bank for the book. Just like you mentioned on 166 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: your mom's home. The majority of these homes are selling 167 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: for over asking price. There's a fair amount that is 168 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: selling for over market value. So you know, it's just 169 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: it's just the supplying demand at the moment, it's just 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: supplying demand. Well, I would listen listen lists because I'm 171 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: talking to a couple of real estate people. That's why 172 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this. You kind of experts to me, 173 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: because my arties need to hear this because we've seen 174 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: this before. You know, when the Halisey market came out 175 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: there and it was extending loans and and the bubble 176 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: burst and it really collapsed this economy, Mr investor. Uh, 177 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: how do you see that? Um? I actually see it. Uh. 178 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: I see it as an opportunity because you don't have 179 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: to get caught by surprise once again with the same information. 180 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: And and if I kind of look at real estates 181 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: similar to stock, I don't I don't like to buy 182 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the market at all. Possible. Um, 183 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: there's some good deals that are out there still, and 184 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: they're they're they're available now, so there's always gonna be 185 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: another deal to come along. But I like to buy 186 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: when no one else is buying, because then that's where 187 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: the real deals are. And UM, I heard a story 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: a long time ago and they said that, um, good 189 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: money waits until the bad money leaves the market. And 190 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: in essence, all that saying is that individuals that are 191 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,359 Speaker 1: buying at the top of the market, if the market collapses, 192 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: then you lose value in your home. But those that 193 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: buy later, those are the ones that actually get a 194 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: true transfer our wealth. And so, UM, I think that 195 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: people should be smart about their money. You know. I 196 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: I'd rather see someone purchase at home rather than just rent, 197 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: but be smart about it. Well, let's let's let's talk 198 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: about this because you are a registered nurse. We're still 199 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: in COVID. We all thought we was about to get 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: out of COVID. I'm double vaccinated and then relaxed my 201 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: whole life when I got vaccinated, cause I was I 202 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: realized I was living in a state of parent I 203 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: was paranoid about what I touched, who I talked to, 204 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: did I did the grocery basket that I pushed in 205 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: the grocery store, and then I got vaccinated and I relaxed. 206 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: I went, wow, I can Actually I wasn't hugging nobody. 207 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't. I went back to that, 208 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't that relaxed team. But you are a registered nurse, Kimmy, 209 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: and being a registered nurse, you see things from a 210 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: different perspective than both that either I see or Moor 211 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: receives during the COVID in walk us through that whole 212 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: process of how you talk to your friends, how you 213 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: talk to your family, And then one where we're dealing 214 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: with this new delta variant, how are you dealing with 215 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: your friends and your friend to live a normal life 216 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: if we all can live a normal life. Um, that's 217 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: a clinician. Is honestly difficult for me to ever see 218 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: us getting back to much normalcy. Um, and that's unfortunate 219 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion. UM, I'm gonna tell you though, I 220 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: guess part of my biggest surprise was the conversation with 221 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: so many people that people didn't wash their hands regularly 222 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: or you know, wipe the handle of the car. I've 223 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: been I keep wipes in my car and in my 224 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: first for years, and I always wiped the handle of 225 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: the car off UM. And so there's something that we 226 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: are gonna have to put into everyday practice just going forward, 227 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: pandemic or not. UM. It was very surreal to be 228 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a nurse in that time frame UM, because I've worked 229 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: through a bowl, I a one h one in one, 230 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: all of that, and nothing compared to this as far 231 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: as the statistics of lives that we were losing and 232 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: the fact that we just couldn't get our arms wrapped 233 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: around this virus UM to take control of it. So 234 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't I can't say I know a person that 235 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know a person in their immediate circle who wasn't 236 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: affected by UM covid during the pandemic. And so we 237 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: have to still be VIGEAMINT. They told us last year 238 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: that it could mutate, and if it mutated into a 239 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: different DNA type virus, that it's gonna be a whole 240 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: problem to kind of wrap your head around another mutation 241 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: of it UM. And that's where we are right now. 242 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: And some of the numbers are going back up because 243 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people have gotten relaxed UM, and we 244 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: need to keep the same habits. We need to still 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: continue social distancing. We need to still continue hand washing, 246 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: We need to wear masks, especially in the close quarters 247 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: with people. 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And I 290 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: offer these questions are comfortable with you because you're you're 291 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: you're professional and I feel I can come to you. 292 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: And there are fans out there need to hear the 293 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: truth from somebody that they respect. So for me in 294 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: the realm of the TV show, UH, they take extreme 295 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: precautions as far as what we need to do in 296 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: order to keep filming. UM, we took various lengthy breaks. 297 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: This has probably been the longest season ever filming because 298 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: we had to take so many UM mandated breaks, be 299 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: it statewide, nationwide, or just from the production company. UM. 300 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: We have to do the same things as far as 301 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: social distancing. We have to wear masks, We COVID tests 302 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: three times a week in order to continue filming. UM. 303 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: Anybody who's in the immediate circle of that filming group 304 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: has to test. So say, for instance, I have a 305 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: closing and they want to film the closing, the people 306 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: at the attorney's office have to test as well, so 307 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: they keep a real vigilant I on the COVID precautions, 308 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: which we can definitely respect. I think as far as 309 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: opening eyes, it probably open more resize more than my eyes, 310 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: to be fair, because as a nurse, I'm actually the 311 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: executive director, and so I didn't really have to beat 312 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: on the front lines unless I have to be on 313 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: the front lines. And with COVID, when you have nursing 314 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: and staff out, it's time for you to put your 315 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: scrubs on. So when he would see me get up 316 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: in the morning and put scrubs on, scrubs mint, it's 317 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: time for me to see patients, and it kind of 318 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: a spin for him to know that. Okay, so now 319 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: this is real because you have to go into these 320 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: people's houses and see these patients at this point, and 321 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: it can affect you, it can affect our household. It's 322 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: stuff that you can bring home to our kids. And 323 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: so that's where a lot of that thing changed. And 324 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: in order to kind of reel it in, we gotta 325 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: do a lot of due diligence and our homework. I 326 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: believe that with the vaccinations that are coming out, there's 327 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of signs and symptoms we have 328 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: to be familiar with because it's new. It's new, and 329 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: anything new, it's gonna have signs and symptoms. We just 330 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: don't know them all at this point. And I think 331 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: that some of the fear and a lot of people 332 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: as far as taking the actual vaccine, it's just new 333 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: and we just gotta be familiar. I don't want to 334 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: be the one in a million that takes the vaccine 335 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: and you know it has the Caesar and not like 336 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to be that one. Um. So people 337 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: are fearful. So I think the due diligence and dissemination 338 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: of information is what's gonna help people want to get 339 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: on board to make sure that we do everything possible 340 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: to keep this virus from exploding like it did last year. Now, Morris, 341 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, we just said, like I was honest with 342 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: you when when the when the COVID came out, you know, 343 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: I was paranoid. Now you live in with a health professional. 344 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: Where was your mind? Like she said, you know, she 345 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: put on the scrubs. Now you know she out there 346 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: dealing and and as a certain uncertainly uncomfortableness, How did 347 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: did that affect your relationship or did they create a 348 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: different conversation with the family that you did have previously. 349 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: How did you emotionally deal with that? Because it's still 350 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: a degree you know, even though she can say what 351 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: she's doing is correct, and you still have your own 352 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: mindset that you have to deal with. Talk to us 353 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: about that. Well. Um, Initially, when when me actually had 354 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: to go on the front lines, it was at the 355 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: time where other countries death told was through the roof, 356 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: so um, at that moment, it's it felt like it 357 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: could have been a death sentence. And um, it's very 358 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: difficult to deal with because this is, you know, my 359 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: wife that we're talking about. So now you see the 360 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: personal sacrifice. It's actually changed my mind completely about the 361 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: medical profession in general. I know that they save lives, 362 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: but you don't know to what extent When you actually 363 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: put your own life on the line for someone else, 364 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: then now you're really a hero, you know, And um, 365 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: you look at it for the greater good of what 366 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: she was doing. So I understand the selfless act, but Um, 367 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: you know you still have concerns because this is this 368 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: is a family member, this is somebody who's very close 369 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know what I do without them. So, um, 370 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: you know there's stress that comes along with that. But 371 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: then after you get to doing some more homework and 372 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: you're realising that you know some of the precautions that 373 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: were taken for you know, our country is different than 374 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: other countries and I would respected them. Um. Also you 375 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: know how healthy we are as well. Now let's talk 376 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: about this this loved one, this beautiful woman that you 377 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: married the first season of the show. Did I read 378 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: the bio? Still have not went on a honeymoon? Not? 379 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Come on, Morris, to come on, brother, come on Black 380 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Now you gotta talk to me that you really see, 381 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: I know, was technical or real professional? Talk about the 382 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: real estate. Talk about how your baller got two businesses. 383 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: You know she got to rescue in America. Yea hero. 384 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I just gotta get on your bar now. You know 385 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: he can't make a time to go nowhere, get a 386 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: rent with a condo. He could have walked in there 387 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: with a with a with a suit on, with a 388 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: mask on, and to care. You know, I gotta interview 389 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: you in the third season and he come on, Maria, 390 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: this is your Morris, this is your time to talk. 391 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: But it's time to talk to all the black men 392 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: in America. Okay, Mr McDonald, I thank you for this 393 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to address what you're about to do. What you're 394 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: about to do? What's about to do? You read her bio? 395 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: Uh huh. I'm actually of Jamaican this thing. Okay, she 396 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: was I gotta in order to take her on a honeymoon. 397 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm gotta slow her down. Oh oh, is you Kimmy? 398 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: You the problem? Kim me? Okay, Okay, Marie's let me 399 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: ask you this, or let's we're just on my show. 400 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: We're just on my show. You're a baller. Fantasize what 401 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: would be a place or destiny? What would that experience 402 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: be like for this beautiful remember of signal stat who's 403 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: a here role in a medical profession, save it live, 404 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: putting the family in teopardy, but all for the benefit 405 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: of America? What would you take her hand? Man? This angel? 406 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Let let me tell you Jamaica. Jamaica, man, Jamaica. Make 407 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: don start. Oh for sure, she loves son and fun 408 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: for sure. If saying they ain't in her toes state. 409 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: That's the one thing I know for sure, like the 410 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: best times in her life always has son insane right right? So, um, 411 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: we've actually, you know, going on a honeymoon and the 412 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: timing has to be right, of course because we have 413 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: the kids and uh, we got to make sure that 414 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff is in order. They're starting school. But 415 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: this is about to go down. It's about to go down. 416 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Kim me here that I'm gonna bring you all back 417 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: on the show now. It cannot be season four and 418 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: we're still talking about it. I've been hearing it. I'm ready. 419 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: I got a suitcase. You know how women that are? 420 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, because you know, you know, a beautiful couple, y'all. 421 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, y'all look good. Look right here I met 422 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: when somebody looked good in front of me. I I'm 423 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: not a shame y'all. Beautiful couple and he ain't just 424 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: taking you know where the showcase you you know, put 425 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you on the pedestal, you know, held you up high 426 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: like you know, like did the baby. You know what 427 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying, he ain't done nothing. You know, when when 428 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: I when I when I when I look at the 429 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: show and I'm just shifting gears a little bit here 430 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: because I want to know, what do you know Tiffany 431 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: and also Maurice and some of these storylines, because you know, 432 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: like you know, especially recently when you had the little 433 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: dinner with It and then then you were shocked by 434 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: this new I call a shady character, Tiffany who's been 435 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: added to the show. She just run around the just 436 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: dropping dimes on everybody, and then you have to react 437 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: to that, Like the last time was in the Luncheon 438 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: when she dropped the dime on on Destiny and then 439 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: she and then the previous episode she told, she told, 440 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: she told Meller did she even know who Destiny was? 441 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: And then she shared some information about monster and vaping 442 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: and that shocked you because she revealed information by the kid. 443 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: So how does these story lines work for my fans? 444 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: As far as how do y'all walk into these scenes? 445 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Are y'all produced to up to a point or they 446 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: just set scenarios? How does that work? Starting with you, 447 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: Kimmy Den, I'm going to you because we need to 448 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: get the men side of the story because that Martel, 449 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: he's just a disaster. Okay, So as far as the 450 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: production of the show UM, and all fairness, we have 451 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: different um Field producers that are assigned to us, and 452 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: they communicate with us on a very recular basis UM 453 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: either phone in person just to know what's going on 454 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: in our world each week, UM, what's coming up, events 455 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: that are coming up, things that we have planned as 456 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: far as our businesses or children, UM. And so they 457 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: don't produce the situation. However, they do try to help 458 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: us see different avenues of getting it filmed, like getting 459 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: it on TV UM and the things that are actually 460 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: I guess TV worthy, you know, because you might tell 461 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: them ten different things you got going on this week, 462 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: and they only interested in one UM, and that happens 463 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: fairly often. The one thing I will say about the 464 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: show that I say a lot actually is they force 465 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: us to have some conversations that we might not normally have. 466 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because there are 467 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: times like for me, especially when I have an alter 468 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: case with someone, I kind of distanced myself UM because 469 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I really enjoy my peace, and my peace is more 470 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: important than non piece UM. And so on the show, 471 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: they have put us in situations where we're encouraged to 472 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: talk it out instead of just even it be UM 473 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: and and that is where production I think takes a 474 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: big band and helping us get over some hurdles that 475 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: maybe otherwise we wouldn't get over. UM And to be fair, 476 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: it also produces some hurdles, produces some hurdles UM, But 477 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: more often than not, it's just strict conversation that we've 478 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: had with them, UM and they kind of determine the 479 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: best day, the best time for us to kind of 480 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: blossom that conversation into something that the nation can relate to. Well, 481 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, your brother's on the show, and he has 482 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: kind of like a Lucy goosey personality, you know, versus 483 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: your person Your personality is pretty straightforward. You know you 484 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, you truly are professional. And I'm not saying 485 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: he's unprofessional, but I think you know what I'm saying. 486 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of jokes around a lot a 487 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: lot of situations. Even though she slapped your hand when 488 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: you joked around with Cara when y'all did that little 489 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: video phone call, she didn't think that was a joke. 490 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: Kimmy said that there ain't no time to joke. Now, okay, 491 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: you stop all that joking now, you ain't no comedian. 492 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: Now Mr Morris, Okay, now we look over that Bartel, 493 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: his life a disaster is just being played out on 494 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: social media, is being played out on TV. When you 495 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: look at that and you're dealing with all of the situations, 496 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: how do you how do you deal with that? How 497 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: do you make sure that your brand, your family, it 498 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: doesn't become a victim of this show or any type 499 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: of show, that they can be exposed in a negative 500 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: light because right now it has happened to them. And 501 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, like even Destiny she got a divorce 502 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: on the show, and I'm not sure to turn this 503 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: into a negative conversation, but it is a certain responsibility 504 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: that you have to hope the hold both as a couple, 505 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: to understand what you involved in and making sure that 506 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't impact your home. Yeah. I think that there's 507 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: a level of emotional intelligence that's important when you're getting 508 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: on a reality television show. Um, And there's a level 509 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: of character that I'm not I'm not gonna play a 510 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: certain character in life, and that's just being true to myself, 511 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: true to my family, true to my braind um. And 512 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think that there's 513 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: not enough. There's not enough game from television, UM or 514 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: reality television to lose my family. UM, and I personally 515 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: think that even in certain certain situations that they're dealing with, UM, 516 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: it's difficult because the world has an idea about how 517 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: their relationships should go when they see just snippets of 518 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: the person. Yes, So even though Mark Tell and and 519 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: this is this is a concept that's kind of difficult 520 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of fans to get. Martell is not 521 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: in all the time, right, there's no way in the 522 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: world that Martell would have been this person and Mail 523 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: would have been with him for ten years, right. So 524 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: that's just a portion of his personality. On the flip side, 525 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Martell is probably one of the nicest people you've ever meet. 526 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: And he's awful. He's carrying, He's a kind of individual 527 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: that will call you about, you know, something that you 528 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: may have talked to him about two weeks ago, and 529 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: he's found a solution for it. So there's a flip 530 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: side to Mark Telle that you don't get a chance 531 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: to see all the time, And there's a flip side 532 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: to pretty much all of us. UM. You know, I'm 533 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: reserved for the most part on the show, but I'm 534 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: not always reserved. There's things that you know call spirited conversation. 535 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: Um usually when you involve children, my family, you know 536 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: the things you know definitely, will you know, turn up 537 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: my uh my intensity a little bit. Well, I want 538 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: to thank you both for coming on the show. I've 539 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: been trying to get you all since season one. You're 540 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: very special. Uh. More importantly, as as we walk through this, 541 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: you know you you guys are black excellence and from 542 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: the city of Huntsville, which I'm very familiar with. If 543 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: the ever been, If anybody have fans who are listening 544 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: to the watching if you have not, Huntsville is uh 545 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: the Homer Nassa. Uh some of the high population of 546 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: educated people. They income levels very high. So don't look 547 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: at feel like it's a little small country town because 548 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: you're highly mistaken about what's going on in Huntsville. Because 549 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: this couple I'm talking to right now are very successful 550 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: and they're all right, and thank you for coming on 551 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Kimmy Scott and more Scott every Saturday 552 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: night they are Own Love and Marriage and Huntville. It's 553 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: number one show on Saturday Night. It's one of the 554 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: most popular shows on television. Thank you for coming on 555 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation, Tam. 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So and then now I just released two 609 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: more bottles that's made in California. Mari Stotomyers. Full interview 610 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: is available at money Making Conversation dot com. Keep winning. 611 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations with your host, Rashaan McDonald. 612 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: My next guest is an industry decision maker. His name 613 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: is Carlos King. One of my favorite people and we've 614 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: never met He's an executive producer and found of Kingdom Rain, 615 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: Kingdom Rain, Rain Rain, King of Rain Entertainment. He is 616 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: also known as the King of Reality TV. Carlins is 617 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: one of the most sought after executive producers and reality TV. 618 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: With over ten years under his production belt, King as 619 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: Carlos King, has quickly created a niche for himself and 620 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: the docu soap arena. He has produced high profile programs 621 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: such as eight seasons of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, 622 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: which we all know is a niche in itself, season 623 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: twenty five Oprah. Behind the scenes, his production company, king 624 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Dom Rain Entertainment has created such shows as Style in 625 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood for Netflix, Love and Marriage, Huntsville, one of my 626 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: favorite shows on own Hollywood Divas which from TV one, 627 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: just to name a few. He recently is not ready 628 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: about him and you know, my boy, you know already 629 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: Variety magazine. You know he first looked deal with O. 630 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: You know when you get Variety, you know they're talking 631 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: about don't talk about money, Variety, No broke people appear Variety. 632 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: Listen's in the back. Sex he was on the front sexe. 633 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: He was on the front page where it well developed 634 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: original unscripted series for their own network. I always tell people, 635 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: how do you build your dreams? Well, let's find out 636 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: how please work with your money making conversation a return 637 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: visit for the time of the brilliant one. Mr callins King, 638 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: how are you doing to call us? I'm well, thank 639 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you so much for that greatness aduption. Well, first of all, 640 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: call us, you know, um, watching your work is uh 641 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: is my introduction to the world because of the fact 642 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: that we get for the first time we see it. 643 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Now we can talk and find out how does that 644 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: mind work putting any other these projects because you're dealing 645 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: with people's lives and it's really impactful in some ways. 646 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: These are unscripted and so you have to kind of 647 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: like set the same like I think, uh, Larry David 648 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: or HBO kind of has an unscriptive show where people 649 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: walk in the kind of set up the scene, but 650 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: it's from a comedy perspective, so you know that direction. 651 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: So you could be throwing some curves when you're developing 652 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: these shows. So talk about the process to my viewers 653 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: and listeners in the world of reality. Yeah, well again, 654 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. And no, it is true when 655 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: you're dealing with real people and you're producing a reality show. 656 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: It's very challenging because you really are following the reality 657 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: of their life and off the time. That means the good, 658 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: the bad, and the ugly. And that's the reason why 659 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: my shows are so relatable is because we don't orchestrate 660 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: anything out of drama sake. We do such a fantastic 661 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: job at the company to where we truly immerse ourselves 662 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: into the lives of our talent, and because it's such 663 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: bravery encourage for anybody to say, I want to let 664 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: cameras inside my household and into my life. That's the 665 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: privilege I don't take for granted. So because we have 666 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: to constantly make sure that the mental health of these 667 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: people are stable enough to really handle the conversation they're 668 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: having on camera and then deal with the after effects 669 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: of it when social media involved himself. So it is 670 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: very challenging to produce. When you're doing a scripted show, 671 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: you have an actor, they're playing character. They get paid 672 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: to to to say what you wrote, and they get 673 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: paid to do the action that you directed. So it's 674 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: much easier in that sense, where in my case, I 675 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: have to follow real people who have real issues and 676 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: real story and because I'm so sensitive to them, I 677 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: make sure that we all work together to put on 678 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: a good show. Well, one of the bigger storylines was 679 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: out of the love and marriage hunt Field. Like I said, 680 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: when you're talking about your scripted and you're talking about 681 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: this is not part of you know, you know, because 682 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: all these when the when the story. Because I just 683 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: recently interviewed that Kimmy and Maury Scott fantastic couple. First 684 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: time I interviewed them, and and they were just saying 685 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: they were all friends. And that's how you know, Melody 686 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: came to them with this great idea about the show 687 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: and Martel and they all got together and they shot 688 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: about three pilots with you before it was finally picked up. 689 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: And along the way, this success, you know, this unexpected 690 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: drama comes out. It was this reality your reality shows. 691 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: Guess what you can't change what happens because it's real. 692 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: And that was the relationship breakup of Melody and Martel 693 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: from a crisis management. How do you look at that 694 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: and how did you kind of like hold it together 695 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: respectfully and not try to explore it. Great question because 696 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: there's a fine line within that and The main thing 697 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: that I did that a lot of other reality reality 698 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: producers don't do, is I ask permission. First. I said, hey, 699 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: because you're telling you this is what you're going through, 700 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: are you comfortable sharing that on camera? Because my job 701 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: is to follow the reel. And what would be so 702 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: unfortunate is if the entire town knows about this infidelity 703 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: and you're on TV pretending you're in a great marriage, 704 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: you are going to lose in the end because when 705 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: people watch reality TV, they want to see authenticity. So 706 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: the permission that I asked Melody and Martell was, if 707 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: you trust me to handle this story, will tend to 708 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: love and care. I promise you you would come out 709 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: of this never feeling exploited. And at the end of 710 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: the day, you, courtesy of being transparent, you're going to 711 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: affect a lot of black households who are dealing with 712 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: this issue, and they will look to you as to 713 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: what to do right and what to do wrong, And 714 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're going to become the voice 715 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: of this topic and the voice of this topic because 716 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: you know Melody, you know she's come out of this 717 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: as a uh mom entrepreneur, you know, powerful, strong, uh 718 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: look fantastic and uh. And sometimes when I look at 719 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: the show, I look at Martel confused, this is my 720 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: this is me talking um angry, don't know the direction 721 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: he wants to go with his life. And so you, 722 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: as a producer, you see these things happening, do you 723 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: give advice or do you just let it play off 724 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: and say, this is what we're gonna do. Are you 725 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: comfortable what we're gonna do? Or do you ever offer 726 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: advice to the individuals who are playing out these real 727 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: life characters Carlos, Yeah, I do live in a boat. 728 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: So primarily I follow the reality of what they're going 729 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: through because because what I like for my audience to 730 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 1: see again is the authenticity of someone dealing with pain 731 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: and joy. Right, So when Martell, when you watch the 732 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: show and you see Martell struggling with light after divorce, 733 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of black men, specifically black men, 734 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: and they may have steps outside of their marriage and 735 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: their wives leave them. They struggle with the realization that 736 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 1: my infidelity ruined this this relationship that I adored and 737 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: and and who am I outside of being married to 738 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: this woman who we were a partner in all of this? 739 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing some regret or Martell's behalf, 740 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: and as a black man producing this show, I cannot 741 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: sit back watch this man go through this pain and 742 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: not offer some sort of advice to hell. So I 743 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: definitely have had numerous conversations mal, most recently two weeks ago, 744 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: because I love them all and I want to make 745 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: sure that at the end of the day they're okay. Well, 746 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: you know the thing about it is that you said 747 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: it earlier about social media, because that's one of the 748 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: biggest churches and benefits of modern day success, you know, 749 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: But in reality TV it can be even worse because, 750 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: unlike a script, you're just playing a character and that's 751 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: my character told me to write that, you know where 752 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: reality show? How does social media work for you? And 753 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: how do you tell a talent because they are talents, 754 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: you know, whether they playing themselves or not, they are 755 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: they are talent. How do you recommend to talent that's 756 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: playing out a life that they can go to the 757 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: grocery store and she really is a Mortel, you know, 758 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: he she really is Kimmy, he really is more Ree, 759 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: she really is a tissue teacher. All these people are 760 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: going to the grocery store being the sales. So social 761 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: media can be very painful in the world of social media. 762 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: Do you encourage them to do social media or that's 763 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: that's their own thing. You walk away. They grown people, 764 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: They deal with it what they have to deal with it. 765 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: I discourage them for reading the comments on soccial media. 766 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: I think you have to use social media what it's for, 767 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: and that's engagement, and that is promoting whatever vehicle you 768 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: have to to get the word out. And once you post, 769 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: you leave right. You don't stay on them. Read the 770 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: comments because the number one to say I can make 771 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: is read comments of what other people are saying about them. 772 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: Because what I've learned through social media, and I love 773 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: social media, but I learned this, the meanest comments get 774 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: the most reaction. So if a game that people on 775 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: social media are playing in terms of how can I 776 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 1: trump this comment so that mind can get the most traction, 777 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: in order to do that, you have to get meaner 778 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 1: and nastier, and that can really affect so much's mental health. 779 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: So I tell my reality stars, do not read the 780 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: comment because it will ruin your day. Yes, that will 781 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: remain your life if you just keep reading that feed 782 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: on the daily basis but it's all started somewhere else 783 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: for you, not on We just talked about the current success. 784 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: When did you realize how did you get into the game. 785 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, we've had this conversation before. We have new 786 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: listeners and new views. But I want to talk because 787 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: I want everybody wants to do what you do. Call 788 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: us okay, But again, you have a gift and I 789 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, I was a sitcom writer, and 790 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: believe it, there were more talented sitcom writers than me, 791 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: and I could tell there was a difference between just 792 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: like there's a difference between the Michael Jordan's and a 793 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: player who was drafted in the first round. Their talents, 794 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: and you have that special gift, that that certain I 795 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: what makes you so special, And I'm not saying that 796 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: in a negative way, but obviously you see things different. 797 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: Call os why and how did that? How was it 798 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: introduced to you when you first got into reality television. 799 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: Because I was a kid who was sort of a 800 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: nerd going up to Detroit. I would watch endless hours 801 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: of television, which included everything from the Oprah Winfrey Show 802 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: to the local news too. I'm a kid watching the 803 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: Datelin NBC like I was a student of people. I 804 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: was a student of character, I was a student of knowledge, 805 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: and because of that, I thought I would become a 806 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: psychologist because I just love to get in the minds 807 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: of people and and really understand their behavior. Because I 808 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: had all of that education growing up. When I decided 809 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: to major and journalism in college and minor psychology, I 810 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: took both um gifts that I had a journalism and 811 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: psychology and applied it to what I do today. So 812 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 1: when I got an internship at BT, I just started 813 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: to really climb the ladder and I got a job there, 814 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: and I got offered to do a reality show because 815 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: my friends and the business knew that I loved reality TV. 816 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: And the first reality show I was offered, funny enough, 817 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: was The Real Housewives of Atlanta. It was a brand 818 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: new show in two thousand and eight, and it was 819 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: my first pay into reality. So when you talk about 820 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: a gift, I think it's the gift of the fact 821 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: that I studied people, so I know people, I know behavior, 822 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: and I know a star within five seconds of talking 823 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: to that. Adoption of teams from Foster Care is a 824 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: topic not enough people know about, and we're here to 825 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: change that. I'm April Dinuity, host of the new podcast 826 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 1: Navigating Adoption, presented by adopt Us Kids. 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But also, let's let's talk about 850 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: reality coming into it, because there was a lot of 851 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: negative about being that reality game. You know, it wasn't real, 852 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: it was it was cheesy, it was offensive, a lot 853 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: of the a lot of the shows were really aggressive. 854 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: Also show black women in a very negative light. So 855 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: how did you, being a guy who's a fan of 856 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: reality TV, how did you say, did you have a 857 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: vision call us when you came on board to say 858 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that type of reality TV? This 859 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: is where I want to approach you. Talk about that 860 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 1: whole approach of organizing, that thought process of you coming 861 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: into the reality game. Okay, cool, I'm with you, Okay cool. 862 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: So when I got my start in reality TV again, 863 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: my first show was The Real Housewife in Atlanta, And 864 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: obviously that was a very entertaining show that had a 865 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: lot of arguments and big fights and things like that, 866 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: because that show wasn't produced by a company that I started. 867 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: I was a worker b who followed the guidelines of 868 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: how to produce that particular show, and the moment I 869 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: became the executive producer of that show, a ship happened 870 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: in my thought of let's make it less about these 871 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: cat fights and more about what's happening inside the households 872 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: of these people, so that the season that I became 873 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: the executive producer is the highest rated season of that 874 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: show to date. The moment that happened is when I 875 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: decided to start my company, Kingdom Right Entertainment, because I 876 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: did have a consciousness of saying I know a lot 877 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: of black people who wanted the reality TV, but they 878 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: think they have to sell their soul and have a 879 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: physical altercation to make that happen, and I wanted to 880 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: be the alternative to that. So when you watch Love 881 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: and Marriage Hunts Bill, for example, you see these beautiful 882 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: black people who are successful. That's only showing you what 883 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: really is happening in their lives, in their households. And 884 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: that show has become the number one show on the network, 885 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: and there has not been a physical altercation on that show. 886 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: So that proves of people. When you build something that 887 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: is true to you, people will come. Well it was 888 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: it was one that came close well, I believe when 889 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: where all Tail was on the patio with with Melody 890 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: and he told her why she why he cheated on 891 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: her because she blah blah blah blah, and she threw 892 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: some man, m come on, call us, call them. I 893 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: had to shot out that scared y'all. Call that scared y'all. No, 894 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 1: you are accurate. So was what was very tally about 895 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: that bump man call listen. You don't tell no black 896 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: woman come on now, another woman does better. That's where 897 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: I got from it, and I think a lot of 898 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: men watch that show and said I'm gonna keep my 899 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: mouth shut, dude to call us. When he said that, 900 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding me? Dude? Are you 901 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: really kidding me? In front of friends, cameras are rolling 902 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: and you're gonna see this to Melody and she's not 903 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: going to react on this show. I saw that bad 904 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: when if I if I you know, you know when 905 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: you growing up calls you your your your parents are 906 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: popping in the back of the head. They should have popped. 907 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: So one of you should have came out of the audience. 908 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: You should came out from the can and say, I'm 909 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: gonna tell them about do something that your parents did 910 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: to you when you was a kid. I'm a pop 911 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: you in the back of your big dumbhead. I laughed 912 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: so but I also felt so bad because I went, dude, 913 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: you know that was that was uncalled for. But that 914 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: that's the closest you've come on that show. Because she 915 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: threw something. I swear to you, she threw it for real. 916 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: She threw that in for real. She she has good aim. 917 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: I'll say that. Well, the beauty of you callers is that, 918 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, Oprah Winfred you said early in your conversation 919 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: that you watched The Growing Up and I'm gonna just 920 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: share an example of me. Sometimes when you get in 921 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: the position you meet stars or you and you kind 922 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: of like pull back a little bit. You feel like 923 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: in the rain though I don't really belong here, just 924 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: really happening to me. And then you realize, hey, this stop, stop, 925 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: stop all that ignorance. It's happening to you because your 926 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: work has put you there. Just happen to you because 927 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: the respect has put you there. It's happening to you 928 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: because you're supposed to be there. When did all that 929 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: coming to you? Because because I know you, we share 930 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: similar qualities, so we both are humble, you know. I 931 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: come from a nerdy background, you know, and and uh 932 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: some people I tell people I was shot and you 933 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: never shot. Where it's yes I was, you know, Yes 934 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: I was, Yes I was, you know, And so I 935 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: just had to fight through it and then realized that 936 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: my opinion mattered. In my opinion matters, then you have 937 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: to tell people what your opinion is. And that's who 938 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: you are. So when you elevate yourself to do this 939 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: behind the scenes for Oprah, when were your thought process 940 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: and where did you come to coming to to introspective 941 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: about yourself as a talent and where you are at 942 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: in that point of your career. You know what was 943 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: so interesting is I'm a man of faith, and I 944 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: believe in prayer, and I believe and and and just 945 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, believing in God and praying to him. So 946 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: to be a kid watching Oprah Winfrey show, and then 947 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: that gave later having the opportunity to I tell people 948 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: all the time, I got paid to follow her around. Right, 949 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: That's that's that's a good job. I So the moment 950 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: I was around her to me gave me the the 951 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: confirmation that God was saying to me, I want you 952 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: to see what's possible and and I want you to 953 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: shadow a woman you look up to a black billionaire 954 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: because I am seeding the steps in terms of how 955 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: I see you being. And I took that as a 956 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: way of saying, I now know what I have to do, 957 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: and that truly, truly, truly, truly gave me the permission 958 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: that I needed from my internal self to say I 959 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: can do this because I saw someone else do it. 960 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: And then a couple of years after that, I had 961 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: to um follow Tyler Perry in the same way when 962 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: he got to the own network and I had that 963 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: same conference, Uh we need your Carlos can say they 964 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: follow Open len Frey and Tyler Perry like not everyone 965 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: can say that. So I use that as the way 966 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: of saying, you have a gift and God is preparing 967 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: you for something bigger. Well, you know the interesting thing 968 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: when I when I listened to you talk and well, 969 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: if everything is a journey, and you know that call 970 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,879 Speaker 1: us you know, because we all dream, we all hope, 971 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: we pray and but it's the work ethic and then 972 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 1: it's what you've been given because each network has a 973 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: different budget. A lot of people you would love to 974 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: think you work with the same budget on TV one, 975 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: a Netflix or own, a BT they all have different budget, 976 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,439 Speaker 1: but you have you still have to deliver a first 977 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: class prob jack. So how do you work with the 978 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: budgets on that the that are given to you? And 979 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: then how do you assess? How do your staff and 980 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, do you call in favors? Sometimes you don't 981 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: take care of you on this and come come take 982 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: care of me on this? How does that work? Because Bill, 983 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: in your brain is about relationships. I know that for 984 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: a fact, and relationships have helped me when I when 985 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: when I've transitioned in my career. Relationship about helping you. 986 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: But now you're the guy who who you. You're the 987 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: hip maker. Now you're the HP maker. So people expect 988 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: you to get when they come to you, to get paid. 989 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: So those little requests they obticually won't. Hey, man, I 990 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: remember remember me when I took care of you? So 991 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: how does that work with you? Because now you ever 992 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 1: first look deal with own and that qualifies you as uh, 993 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: that's the ultimate man when somebody say, look, we're just 994 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: gonna give you a deal to create shows, and that's 995 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: the blessing of your journey. And so talk about that 996 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: when you when it was approached to you, and what 997 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: were the first thoughts that ran through your mind when 998 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: owned said here's the first look, first look deal for 999 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: you and your company. Kingdom Rain entertained it was. It 1000 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: was magical because my company became what we call him 1001 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: the business, a full service production company, which means that 1002 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: the buck stops here. We don't we don't have a 1003 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: co production with another like everything begins and ends with 1004 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: Kingdom Rank Entertainment. So to have that within the first 1005 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: year of launching the company is nothing but God's favor 1006 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: on my life. So I needed that in order to 1007 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: show the marketplace right that I am the little engine 1008 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: that could. This black man who owns his own company, 1009 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: has the has the respect of Oprah. Winfrey was saying, 1010 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: I want you Tobe create shows for my network. So 1011 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about budgets with other networks, yeah, you 1012 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: have to definitely, you know Rob Peter, you know, Getting 1013 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: Paul and all those things, because you know you have 1014 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: to use what's given to you. And that can be challenging. 1015 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: And yes, you have a call in favors from people 1016 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: who you kind of grew up with in the business. 1017 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: Like you said, relationships are key, so I have Well, 1018 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: the beauty of you, my friend, is this. You know 1019 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: you You're You're master the world. I can't do you know. 1020 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: And and that's a good thing because like I said, 1021 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, it means you're you're creating a brand. And 1022 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: all the years of working with different projects, which one 1023 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: challenge you the most. I'm talking about not a negative challenge, 1024 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: but production wires and creatively And you went, Wow, that 1025 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: was a lot of work, man, But I'm glad I 1026 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: got it done. Which project of all the projects you've 1027 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: done that really pushed you creatively and really test your 1028 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: personality and your sanity. I think I said that right. 1029 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: I think I got it really right. So you can 1030 00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:01,479 Speaker 1: say a good response, okay U. I had a show 1031 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: a BT called BT persentson Encore last week. We had 1032 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Our Sees the Finality absolutely and that was the most 1033 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: challenging show to date of my career because I had 1034 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: to it was a house reality show and we had 1035 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: thirty days to shoot a show twenty four seven for 1036 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: thirty days of these former girl group members living in 1037 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: a house together to form a supergroup, and you're dealing 1038 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: with personalities and music and again it's around the clock 1039 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: for thirty days. And that pushed me to a place 1040 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: that I didn't know existed in terms of my brain 1041 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: having the capacity to handle this. And and it was 1042 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: such a good gift to to have UM because it 1043 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: allowed me to want to push things further. And the 1044 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: shows I'm producing wells interesting thing about it, because you 1045 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: were dealing with some level of frustration with talent, you know, 1046 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: who felt that they should be bigger or felt that 1047 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: they were wrong. And they see this and some of 1048 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: them say yes to doing things, But then I don't 1049 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: want to do the work, you know, you know, you know, 1050 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: if that's the point that frustrate you, why are you here? 1051 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Then well, you know, why why are you wasting my time? 1052 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna curry, but why are you wasting my time? 1053 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: That's the part that makes you mad. Okay, you knew 1054 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: what you were signing up for, now you now you 1055 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: got the attitude, okay, But the thing that really came 1056 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,919 Speaker 1: into players is COVID. You had to produce all these 1057 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: shows under these conditions of testing and multiple testing and 1058 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 1: the beauty of saying what Tyler Perry did, He he 1059 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: kind of like wrote the template by compile and put 1060 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: a hotel on it, you know, saying and then imprison 1061 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: your cast for two weeks and then send them off 1062 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: working Twitter four hour day and set them all wrap 1063 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: twenty four episodes. And so with that being the case, 1064 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: how did it affect your production and how and what 1065 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: did you what did you gain from it as a producer? 1066 01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Call us listen safety first one, You're dealing with a 1067 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: global pandemic, so yes, we have to be multiple testing, 1068 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you know. Thankfully everyone was negative and we were able 1069 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that our cast and crew was safe 1070 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: for all the productions we have going on the Kingdom 1071 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Rain Entertainment. But that was the greatest thing about it 1072 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: as well. But no, it allowed everybody to know that 1073 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: there is a necessity for unscripted in this business because 1074 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: my counterparts and Scripted did not have the right to 1075 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: to do this because it was such an expensive feed. 1076 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: So unscripted we did. Now with that been saying, my friend, 1077 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: m a hit show when you do this. This is 1078 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: all the favorite asked man, you know, whenever you do 1079 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: these things are rap shows. At the end of the season, 1080 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: show just consider your boys. One of your hosts. I 1081 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: come on in, man, you gotta you got the first look. 1082 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Then just considered the man in the suit. Well you know, brother, 1083 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: watch the shows called I come in and hosted man, 1084 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: and I know everybody that cans, they know me and 1085 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: we'll do our think. Oh thank you. But I just 1086 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: want to tell you, but I respect you man. One 1087 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: day we will meet. But the beauty of what you do, man, 1088 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: I so respect and I and it's just the quality 1089 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: of work and send you make this transition because at 1090 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: one time reality was a bad thing. It was a 1091 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: bad thing, was a very negative thing, and you turned 1092 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: it with your skill, with your eye and forced other 1093 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: people to follow your lead. Thank you, Thank you call 1094 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: us for doing that. Thank you so much. So I 1095 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I appreciate. If you want to hear or 1096 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: see anybody interviews, especially when I'm doing with carl Us King, 1097 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: please go to Money Making Conversations dot com um with 1098 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I am your host. 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