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Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut. In the rule of twenty

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Speaker 2: four hour NBA news, this news you love, Chris Haynes.

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Speaker 2: It's time, Mark Stein, It's so time. This League Uncut

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Speaker 1: One, the new edition of this League Uncut. Mark Stein

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Speaker 1: here with Chris Haynes. We were actually in the same place,

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Speaker 1: for a month, Toronto could move past Atlanta for number ten.

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Speaker 1: That's really I think the only mystery in terms of

431
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: top ten in the East. But you know, the Warriors

432
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: also made news the Warriors have extended Steve kerrz contract

433
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: two year deal, two extra seasons worth thirty five million.

434
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Speaker 1: I've believed all season this was going to happen. I

435
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: didn't think there was any doubt, and you know what,

436
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: I still believe that they're going to find a way

437
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: to get a new deal done with Klay Thompson as well.

438
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Clay is now the only member, the only holdover from

439
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: the Glory days now whose future is not secure. Draymond

440
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Green has a new contract, Stephen Curry and Steve kerr

441
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: both have contracts that are aligned now that go for

442
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: two more seasons together. So really it's just the Clay mystery.

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Speaker 1: I do think in the off season they're going to

444
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Speaker 1: find a way. I think they're going to find common

445
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: ground on a new deal because I just look, there

446
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: have been rumbles that Orlando is interested in Clay. Certainly,

447
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: the LA teams are always going to be mentioned as

448
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: a potential destination for Clay Thompson because of his Southern

449
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: California high school past. But I just I think Clay

450
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: wants to be a Warrior start to finish. And I

451
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: think the Warriors key stakeholders, the other ones, Curry Kerr,

452
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Draymond Green, Joe Lacup, I think they all want Klay

453
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: Thompson to finish as a Warrior. And somehow, I'm not

454
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Speaker 1: saying there won't be changes to the Warriors roster in

455
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: the off season, but somehow, I just think they will

456
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: find a way to get a new deal done with Clay.

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Speaker 3: Being that we're recording this February twenty sixth, I would

458
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: agree with you and say I would think somehow, someway

459
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: they will work out a deal. But I will be

460
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: remiss if we didn't mention that Clay is now coming

461
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: off the bench. I just did their game. I came

462
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: off of their game last week, but was that it

463
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: was the Warriors and Lakers. Warriors and Lakers, and Clay

464
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: came off the bench that game. I believe that was

465
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: a second game coming off the bench. Didn't have a

466
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: good shooting night. But you just gotta wonder throughout this season,

467
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: like it's Clay gonna find a rhythm because they're sticking

468
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: with that lineup. Is Clay gonna find a rhythm off

469
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: of the bench. I know its first game, he exploded,

470
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 3: went off, first game off the bench. But is this

471
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Speaker 3: something he's gonna accept embrace, not just for this season

472
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: but next season if he were to resign, so things

473
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: can change, is basically what I'm saying. But as of

474
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: right now, Yeah, it's hard to believe that Clay will

475
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: be playing in a different uniform next season.

476
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Speaker 1: And look, yeah, I don't think he loves coming off

477
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: the bench. I guess.

478
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Speaker 3: Take hold on, stein stein, hold on, hold on, take

479
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: the think remove think remove, think you don't think remove it.

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00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm quite sure that Clay is not fond of coming

481
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: off the bench. I get it, but I just struggle

482
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Speaker 1: to imagine him wanting to go somewhere else. I just

483
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Speaker 1: I'm look, I haven't talked to Clay about this. I

484
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Clay in ages about anything, so this

485
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: is just my read from far away. But it's just

486
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to imagine him wanting to be elsewhere.

487
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is a season of major adjustment. He's

488
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: adjusting to a new role. And I guess we'll see,

489
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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, I guess we'll see over

490
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: time how he really feels about things. But it's just

491
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Speaker 1: I am still struggling to imagine a scenario in which

492
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: he's angling to go somewhere else because that means he

493
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: can start again. It's just hard for me to picture.

494
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: I talked to Brandon Poziski, who who is now starting

495
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: in Clay's place, and I asked him about, like, what's

496
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: been the dynamic since you've entered the starting lineup, you know,

497
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: between you and Clay, And he said it is awkward.

498
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: He said it's awkward because he understands, you know, what

499
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: Clay means to this team and the run that they had.

500
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: But he said Clay has been supportive. He said, he's

501
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, helping him, you know, sharing with him where

502
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: he should be at on both ends of the court

503
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: in different sets, you know, they do play together. They

504
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: still play together, you know, in the rotations that they use.

505
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: And he said, Clay has made it cla feeding the ball,

506
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: like get me the ball, like when I'm in there,

507
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: So Clay is looking to shoot, shoot that bad boy

508
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: when when he gets in so and I think that's

509
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: a positive for Clay right there is just the fact

510
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: that you know, you could come in gun slinging even

511
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: more now. So, uh, it's going to be an adjustment

512
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: period for sure. But that's just something that I will

513
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: continue to monitor throughout this season.

514
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Pajemski came on this pod to fuel his bid

515
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: for a spot in the Panini Rising Stars Game, and

516
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: he he got more than that. He got a starting

517
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: job after coming on this pod.

518
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, there you go. I got the interview.

519
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Will he get that elusive spot on the all Lefty

520
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: team though, that is the question.

521
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: That's a tough You gotta you know what you gotta do.

522
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: You got to open up more ross with spots.

523
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Well, I thought of a way to add one that

524
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: would be the easiest to just say all Lefty Rookie

525
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: of the Year. And if I do that, he's got

526
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: he's got a real chance.

527
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: Now that's a nice one. Yeah, Lefty Rookie of the Year,

528
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: that's a nice one. There you go.

529
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Stein, Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to be I'm

530
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: trying to be more open minded.

531
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Speaker 3: And that is a and Stein. Yes, yes, you know

532
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: why I like that, Stein, because I'm always urging excuse me,

533
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm always urging you and encouraging you to extend to

534
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: the youth. That's why I be telling you to come

535
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: into these locker rooms and come meet some of these

536
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: young guys. You'd be like, nah, I want to go

537
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: in the locker room. But you know what this Lefty

538
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: New Lefty award that I advocate for, that is a

539
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: way to have your foot in the door and reaching

540
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: out to the youth. And this could be something that

541
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: each lefty when they're in college and high school, you know,

542
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: they dream. You know, there are certain steps you have

543
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: to have to be a not to be, not to be,

544
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: but there's certain steps you that people that want to

545
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: be high lottery picks that they want to achieve. One is,

546
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: you know, be a McDonald's All American. The other one

547
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: going to a top flight college D one college lately

548
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: is being Kentucky. You go there and start there. You

549
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: definitely going hit the lottery. Next on their list needs

550
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: to be if you're lefty, to make the get Rookie

551
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: of the Year and to make Stein's Lefty Rookie of

552
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: the Year award list. So think about it.

553
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Stein, I'm always thinking about the All Lefty team. It's

554
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: a twenty four to seven three sixty five process. It

555
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: will be announced in August. You'll have to wait to

556
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: August to see what we to see what the committee

557
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: of one decides.

558
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: You know what, we should make this a bigger deal.

559
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: We need to have an award show. I don't think

560
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 3: anybody would show up, but we need to have an

561
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: award show. Just put it live.

562
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: We can do that in a Yeah, you can do

563
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: it in August. So you're going to Denver this week?

564
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: Where does Denver rank on your favorite cities list?

565
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh? Here, you trying to get me in trouble star.

566
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: You have to trying to get me in trouble Listen.

567
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: Not only am I going to Denver this week, I

568
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: got two more Denver games next week.

569
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: We were just in Indianapolis, a great former ABA city,

570
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: and now you're going to Denver, another great former ABA city.

571
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: I love the ABA stot we only have. There are

572
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: only four, so I mean I love to go to

573
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: these places.

574
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well really.

575
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: There are only three because the nets weren't in Brooklyn

576
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: when they were in the ABA. So it's like going

577
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: to Denver, going to Indiana, going to San Antonio. That's

578
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: the last links to the glorious ABA. You should be pumped.

579
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm find that you have such a such

580
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: a passion for your ABA history. But as far as

581
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: we're Denver ranks on my favorite stops, it really doesn't rank.

582
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

583
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: You at least have a director of light come on

584
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Sacramento to Denver camp direct.

585
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I have a direct flight and it is nothing. Again.

586
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: The people are cool, The people hell are cool. I

587
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: just you know, for a brother like me, I'm not

588
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: doing no snowing, no surfing. You know, I ain't doing

589
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: no skiing, no no sky diving. That's not for me.

590
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: Those sports are not not for me. You know what

591
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: I'm saying?

592
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: Star, Who are you on the game? Who are you

593
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: on the game with? Thursday night?

594
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 4: Thursday night I am with is Miami at Denver. It

595
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: is Kevin Harlem, Reggie Miller and myself and then start again.

596
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: I told you I'm going to Denver. I got three

597
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: straight Denver games.

598
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: So the week after that Phoenix at dem On Tuesday,

599
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: and then that Thursday, Boston at Denver. So it's it's

600
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: some good games.

601
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm a lot in your life. NBA potential NBA Finals

602
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: preview Boston at Denver.

603
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: For sure, I could listen. Listen. Mike Malone is one

604
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: of the best. Man, that's my guy. I messed with

605
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: Mike Malone. Yeah, it's just you know, it's Denver. Aside

606
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: from that, you.

607
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Know, and you are hard to please.

608
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: I'm good man. Nothing Listen. I know I'm gonna get hate. See,

609
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna get Listen. Why do y'all gotta

610
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: hate people who if they don't, you know, if if

611
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: your city is not one of their favorite stops, there's

612
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. I don't hate the city of Denver.

613
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't. It's history there. Like you said, you know,

614
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: I'll find something to do.

615
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: All right before we go. Is there anything else you

616
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: want to get off your chest?

617
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: Yes? I do, Starr, thank you for asking and listen.

618
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: This part of the section. I think we need to

619
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 3: have our social team clip. This put it out because

620
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: I need the people's involvement on this. I need to

621
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: know if what I'm about to share with youall need

622
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: to know if my friend was out of pocket or not.

623
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: Was was NERVs Ryan and I look right now, Well

624
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 3: that's that's fine. This is the podcast. We can always delete,

625
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: but I don't think we don't think we'll be deleting

626
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: any of this. This is uncut, This league uncut, right,

627
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: So anyway, start let me tell you this story. Everybody

628
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: listen to me. Let me know if my friend is

629
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: out of pocket or not, because I believe he is,

630
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: so y'all. As y'all know, I'm in two basketball leagues.

631
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: My Saturday league is the Filipino League I'm in, and

632
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: then on my Sunday league, it's a Sacramento Recreational Recreation league. Right,

633
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: So my Sunday Recreation league, I've been playing with a

634
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: group of guys who invited me onto their team. I've

635
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: been playing with them for three seasons. Three seasons. Now,

636
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: remember these seasons. These are these seasons last two months

637
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: and then they take two weeks off and start the

638
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 3: season back over. So it's not it's not like three years,

639
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: but three seasons I've been playing with these guys and

640
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: they are a group of they are they are all friends.

641
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: So I'm on their team, right, But we've always come

642
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: up short. You know, we get to the final four

643
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: and we lose. Final four, lose, final four, lose. As

644
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: you know, Stein, I don't like losing. That's not me.

645
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: So you know what I said. You know what I'm recruiting.

646
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: So I have a friend, a childhood friend. His name

647
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: is Aaron Hayes. We grew up together in Fresno. He

648
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 3: lives here in Sacramento. He played we played college ball together.

649
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: He went and had a Hall of Fame overseas career.

650
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: In Korea. He's the number one all time scoring import

651
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: in Korean Basketball League history. He's six ' eight. So

652
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna get Aaron on my team and

653
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: we're gonna kill this league. Okay, Stein for this season,

654
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: That's what I did. I got Aaron on our team.

655
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: We're undefeated with Aaron Plaine. Okay, now, let's get to it.

656
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 3: Let's get to it. I'll give you all the context.

657
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: I gave you the background. So yesterday Aaron couldn't make it.

658
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: We lost. So I text Aaron. I said, hey, we

659
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: lost the game, and I said, we lost our big man.

660
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: He had a meniscus injury, so he's going to be

661
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: out for the season. And remember my friend Aaron. He's

662
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: only played about four games with us so far. And

663
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: he hits me back with a response saying, okay, man,

664
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: all right, Well, I got a friend that can replace

665
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: him and he can help us out. Can we add anybody?

666
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, why don't you text Gerald?

667
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: Gerald is one of the captains of the team. I said,

668
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: text Gerald if you could add a guy, because I

669
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: don't know if it's too late or not. You know

670
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: what Aaron does? Stein and Ryan are producer, Ryan jumping

671
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: him because I'm gonna need your input. Two, Aaron texts

672
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: the team. He texted the team this is what he said, Hey,

673
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 3: now that we have an injury, an injured player, can

674
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: I bring on my friends? And so I'm like, hold on,

675
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, so he text this to the team.

676
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh. I text Aaron back individually. I say, Aaron,

677
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: hold on, bro, the guy just hurt himself, I said he.

678
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: I said, he's on the court right now holding his

679
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 3: knee and he's getting a text by you talking about

680
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: can't you bring can you add another player? Since we

681
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: got an injured guy? You ain't even say hey, man,

682
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: sorry for your injury. Didn't there was nothing? And so

683
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: Aaron responds back to me saying, so what that's what

684
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: we're doing overseas. Somebody gets hurt and you just you

685
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: just you just replace them. I said, bro, this is

686
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: not overseas. This is a rec league that everybody paid for.

687
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: And this is a team again, this is a group

688
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: of guys that they've been playing like they're all friends,

689
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 3: and I've come on to their team and I'm brought

690
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: in my guy on their team. And now you're just

691
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: texting this guy in the team chat about replacing them

692
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 3: soon as he has a moniscus injury. So I asked you, guys,

693
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: he didn't see nothing wrong with it. So I asked

694
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: you guys, should he have like I told him, just

695
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: text individually to one of the captains, asked if you

696
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: can bring on a replacement or was he within his

697
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: right to text in the group saying hey, now that

698
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 3: we have an injured guy, can I bring my guy

699
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: on to play with us?

700
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: That will have to be classified as an international incident.

701
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: He took.

702
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: He took it to I agree. I agree. I'm like,

703
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: how are you? How you going to the dude just

704
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: suffer the meniscous injuries out for the season.

705
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: What did the poor guy who got hurt say?

706
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 3: He didn't respond, He didn't respond. Did anybody response, Yeah,

707
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: they said, one of them said they'll look into it.

708
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: It was just awkward, Ryan, What do you think, Chris?

709
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest. I think this is on you,

710
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 5: my friend. Wow, you brought the guy. I think you

711
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: brought the guy to the party. You gotta answer for

712
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 5: his behavior. So if you bring a guy to a

713
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 5: party and he makes a mess at the party, everyone's

714
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 5: looking at you to answer for his behavior.

715
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: Chris.

716
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 5: You know, look, it's not fair.

717
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: It's not fair. I did not see this reaction coming. Yeah,

718
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: producer Ryan, who has never spoken an ill word about

719
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: either of us in thirteen months of podcasting. But that

720
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: was a strong take, and I think I'm gonna have

721
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: to agree with him.

722
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, Well it.

723
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 5: May not be fair. You may not like it, but

724
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 5: you brought you brought him in and he stepped out

725
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 5: of line.

726
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: Now it is also on him.

727
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 3: He did step out line.

728
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 5: Huh Yeah, I mean yeah, guys down on the ground.

729
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 5: His season just said.

730
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: I told I gave him instructions. Hit the captain up individually,

731
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: not in the team. And if you and even if

732
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: you're going to ask in the team group text, at

733
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: least extend your condolencens Hey, bro, I'm sorry to hear this,

734
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean. At least do that

735
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: part right. He just jumped in and said, hey, since

736
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: we have a guy injured that can't play, could I

737
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: bring in my guy?

738
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: But you know what, ryanes the same way as you.

739
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we spelled the same exact way. No no relation.

740
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: Our families grew up together though, no relation.

741
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, let's listen when you when you want to

742
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: start hiring mercenaries, the work gets dirty, it does, I

743
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 5: think the ramifications of the game you're trying to play.

744
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: But you know what, Ryan is worth it because we're

745
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: undefeated when he plays. But it's just I got I

746
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: gott so I told him I was going to bring

747
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: him up on this pod. So, uh, I said, I'm

748
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: gonna get some feedback. I want to know. I would to.

749
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 3: I want to see if I'm not if I'm wrong

750
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: for thinking you out of pockets. I think you were

751
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: out of pocket, buddy. So that's all. Yeah, y'all let

752
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 3: me viewers, Twitter, Instagram, whatever, let me know is Aaron

753
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: Haynes out of pocket for what he did? I gave

754
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: him clear.

755
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: I think what Ryan is saying is the question should be,

756
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: is this Chris Hanes not on Aaron Haynes. I think

757
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: that's what the question.

758
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: Needs to be. Well, listen, I will say this, even

759
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: if my team felt some type of way by that text,

760
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 3: we're not cutting them. No, nobody's gonna be. Nobody's gonna

761
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: be in a favor of cutting them.

762
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you should send a private text to the captain saying, hey,

763
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, I'm going to have a talk with you.

764
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: What about Yeah, maybe what about the poor guy that's injured?

765
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: Does he deserve a text?

766
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: He deserves more than a text, He deserves a selfie

767
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: with you, maybe some Twitter love?

768
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: You know, now that I think about, how long has

769
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: it been? When did this all go down?

770
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: This could just happen over the week just happened over

771
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: the weekend, Yes, so, but it's it's been this.

772
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 5: It's Monday, almost almost three days, you know, by by

773
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 5: tomorrow morning too, and he still hasn't said anything. You

774
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: can't say anything now.

775
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: What happened in the game without Aaron? Why couldn't Chris

776
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: Haynes carry the squad to victory?

777
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: I scored twenty one. But it's just, you know, when

778
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: you used to having Now that we got Aaron on

779
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: the team, we're used to playing at a certain level.

780
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: Now we don't have to do certain things, you know,

781
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: you know, you just get used to playing like like

782
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: the Sixers. You see what the Sixers are going through right.

783
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Now, so you're Tyrese Maxie just trying to keep them afloat.

784
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 3: It's different. It's different. We run everything. Our offensive sets,

785
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: our defensive sets are running through Aaron, and we don't

786
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: have them. We're kind of lost.

787
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: In your advanced age. What you're saying is you need

788
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: to play off an elite big to maximize your skills.

789
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think so. I mean I could still get

790
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: it done on certain nights style I don't don't. Don't

791
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: sleep on me. But you know, we we just were

792
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: not ready yesterday. That's all. We lost by six, so

793
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: we still could have won the game. We came back.

794
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: I wasn't mad because this is a season where we

795
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: got airing. Now I don't care if we go into

796
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: the playoffs as the third fourth to fifth seed, we're

797
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: the most dangerous third fourth, fifth seed in this playoffs.

798
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: We're good, We're the favorites. We're the favorites periods.

799
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: Are not worried any footage anywhere for us to look at.

800
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: I would have Footage'm gonna start. I'm gonna start. Uh,

801
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start documenting, you know, video documenting these games,

802
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: because it's serious around here.

803
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: You could at least send it in our group chat,

804
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: just so Ryan and I can look at it and

805
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: scout you.

806
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll do that. But I don't have no

807
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: problem showing the world stile. I don't have anything to hide.

808
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 3: But that's just funny.

809
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Like the media All Star Game ever, coming back.

810
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: We gotta do. I think we have to. Wife has

811
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: been on me about putting it together. We have to,

812
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: and I think I want to do because remember I

813
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: had you know, we had real broadcasters, right. I don't

814
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: know if you're familiar with that game, man, it was

815
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: a pretty it was well done. Really, you know, we

816
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: had we had those I don't know what you call

817
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 3: those cameras that that fly in the air, go from drones,

818
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: like we had those type of camera drones like going

819
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: right to left and just we had all type of

820
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: aerial footage. It was. It was great, man, it was

821
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: really well put together. But no, we we gotta do

822
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: that for sure. I got to are you going to

823
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: be a part of broadcast at least time? Because I'm

824
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: pretty sure you're not.

825
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: If you organize it, I will not miss it. I promise.

826
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do that. We'll do that. We'll do that,

827
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: We'll do that. It was just really convenient that time

828
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: because I was the finals were in the was in

829
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: the bay and I was standing in the bay. But uh,

830
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 3: we can no excuses. We can put it together anywhere.

831
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: All right. I think that's gonna do it for this

832
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: edition of this League Uncut. We will get together one

833
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: more time this week. Not exactly sure when that is

834
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: because Chris has the trip to Denver. We're gonna have

835
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: to work around that, but we will figure it out

836
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: and we will have another episode for you before weeks.

837
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: And great to be back after a very good trip

838
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. Always good when we can hang out together.

839
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: But man, some when are we gonna see Ryan? When

840
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: are all three of us going to be somewhere I never.

841
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: I don't know how tall Ryan is. I don't know

842
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: how big and wide he is. I've never seen the

843
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: guy in person, have you star?

844
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Now that you mentioned we know this is not an AI.

845
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: We know this is not a AI.

846
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: Because of that last scalding take he just gave when

847
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: you were trying to put three two one, When you

848
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: were trying to pin all this on your new teammate

849
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: and producer, Ryan said no, the bunk stops first with you,

850
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: Chris Haynes. That's when we knew this was not an

851
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: AI generated producer.

852
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: Well, you would think so, Stan, But these Ais, they're

853
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 3: very creative. Nowadays, they're trying to take over jobs to Stein,

854
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't put it past them. If these Ais

855
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: can get producer jobs as.

856
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, nobody can replicate this podcast. Nobody, All right, that

857
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: will do it.

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Speaker 3: He has a nice beard. I give it.

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Speaker 1: Podcast by making him turn his camera.

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Speaker 3: Look at him. He cut thember, he had the whole

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Speaker 3: he had the baby face not too long ago. Now

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Speaker 3: you got a full beard back. It don't take long

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Speaker 3: at all. He's out of control. He's out of control. Now.

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Speaker 1: You know way more about producer Ryan Music than you

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Speaker 1: ever thought you would or ever wanted to. I am

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Speaker 1: going to put this edition to bed. Please remember follow

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Speaker 1: us rate review wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: you know what to do. We would love to get

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Speaker 1: a five star rating from you, and we would love

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Speaker 1: for you to join us again when we're back later

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Speaker 1: this week with another edition of This League Uncut. For

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Speaker 1: Chris Haynes, I'm Mark Stein and producer Ryan Music. For

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Speaker 1: both of them, allow me to say farewell and we'll

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Speaker 1: be back with you again to see and that'll do

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Speaker 1: it for us.

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Speaker 2: See you next time. This League Uncut is and iHeartRadio

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