WEBVTT - Daredevil: Born Again S2E02: “Shoot the Moon"

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for episode two, season two

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<v Speaker 1>of Daredevil Born Again. If you weren't Hello, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jess and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>x Ray Vision of the podcast where we dive its

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite Jos movie kind of a pop cult company

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<v Speaker 1>by our podcast. We're already their episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Week plus news on Saturdays today, though it's not news

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're talking about the bab Report because she will

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<v Speaker 2>be involved in Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What is she doing? Baby? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>This is our episode two Dared Devil recap and conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>so we will be bringing in super produced Aaron after

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<v Speaker 2>we have recapped this action packed episode. And guys, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, today we are recapping episode two. Tune

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<v Speaker 2>in tomorrow for our recap of episode three when you

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<v Speaker 2>have also watched him. As we know, both came out

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, but you both won an in

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<v Speaker 2>depth version of both, which is why we have two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>We open right after the fight Cherry, who has suffered

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<v Speaker 1>at least one heart attack, possibly two.

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<v Speaker 3>How doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Not doing well? He's doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Weel that to the ambulance. Dared Devil is watching from

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<v Speaker 1>the rooftops. You'd think by now the cops would not

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<v Speaker 1>to have a helicopter scanning the rooftops, but they don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And Daredevil is watching the body bags of the definitely deceased.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the balls, I got him, it's not They

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<v Speaker 2>do not know who Matt Murdock is. I know it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like at the end he may have been unmasked, but.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they're all dead. Benjamin got them.

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<v Speaker 1>Fist bump for football's eye. Good job. Dex goes to church.

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<v Speaker 1>He's looking for sister Maggie and you're thinking to kill

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<v Speaker 1>her to do what but look, thankfully she's in Rome

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<v Speaker 1>on sabbatical and Dex asks the priest there for absolution. Meanwhile, Fisk,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a boxing match coming up by.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, Like, did we miss this from season one?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like or is this the first introduction? Please

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, guys, there's so much content, but I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got like a celebrity style Jake Pool esque boxing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going on, and he has to train for it

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the people he's the real mayor or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's working up for it, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>time is money, So he's getting briefings on this recent

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<v Speaker 1>Daredevil task Force incident while he is training with his

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<v Speaker 1>guy and he gets the update it's Cherry's in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>We have four dead task Force members, and probably Bullseye

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<v Speaker 1>helped Daredevil. He's Fisk's boxing coaches like, hey, like, you

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<v Speaker 1>we got serious. I don't like this. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the way you're the dedication. You gotta show some dedication.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like doing Mayor stuff. The whole deal is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna strap the Mayor stuff while you're here with me,

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<v Speaker 1>And so Fisk throws him across the gym through a mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm this is really I know we knew this from

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<v Speaker 2>last season, but this matter is like beyond any help.

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<v Speaker 2>Like not that we thought that was gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>redemption arc, but he's pasted even just like being able

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<v Speaker 2>to be Mayor. Like, you can't just be throwing people

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<v Speaker 2>into a mirror when you're still pretending to be like

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<v Speaker 2>a useful member of society.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, my guy, who's gonna teach you? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna teach your boxing before this important boxing match

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<v Speaker 2>that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>For some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, Matt and Karen catch up and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dex is toying with me to punish Fisk. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen is very very eager to see the Kingpin's downfall

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<v Speaker 1>like happen as quickly as possible, so she's.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of like, maybe this is good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Matt is like, I gotta go look for the

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<v Speaker 1>first mate from the Northern Star, who is still out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the streets somewhere at the Agan Gardens Greek restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>task Force arrests the owner, whose name we still do

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<v Speaker 1>not know, and I will say that I love it, Yes, please, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, they gotta be doing this because they want us

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<v Speaker 2>to think she's related to Electra, because otherwise they just.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are they keeping interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good that's I I'd not thought of that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that take.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they want us to feel mysterious about huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I will also say like I'm completely and continuously

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<v Speaker 1>staggered by like how this show is not pulling any

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<v Speaker 1>punches with regards to what's going on like in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world. At the same time, they've done some very

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<v Speaker 1>smart things, such as all the illegal immigrants that are

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<v Speaker 1>being hunted by the Task Force. White continuing on they're

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<v Speaker 1>Greek Greek to break.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like what they did with john Wick.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. The part of the reason the first John Wick

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<v Speaker 2>movie had such a huge impact is in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>movies like that often would be like a white solo

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<v Speaker 2>lone person, whether it's like Peppermint or something or death Wish,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they show black people or people of color,

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<v Speaker 2>and it becomes while you may enjoy the cathartic nature

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<v Speaker 2>of the vengeance story, it can become very racist.

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<v Speaker 3>John Wick moved that by.

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<v Speaker 2>Having it be a person of color as the righteous

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<v Speaker 2>killer and then all white Russian people, and it made

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<v Speaker 2>it may way more palatable.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like here they've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>In their own way to kind of let people once

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<v Speaker 2>again shrug off any real things that they may notice

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<v Speaker 2>reflected in the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck makes a suggestion, Boss, why don't you tell the

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<v Speaker 1>city that Matt murder because Daredevil and Fiscus like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we have this weird psycho Scenn.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't. You wouldn't get it. Buck, We have a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a very deep thing, and he saved my

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<v Speaker 1>life and that's what you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 5>I no, Buck, I can't do it. Not even Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even talk about that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Fisk makes a statement to the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually incredibly good plan. This is a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like he it's he subverts what you would

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<v Speaker 1>think of him. Very canny, guys, Jesus, Matt, Matt Burdock

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<v Speaker 1>is alive, the hero, Matt Burdock is alive.

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<v Speaker 3>He risked his life save me.

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<v Speaker 5>But now he's being targeted by the villainous masked villain

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<v Speaker 5>Bullseye and other vigilanities. Help me find him and break

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<v Speaker 5>him to safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Very smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then immediately Matt and Karen realized that that MCU

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<v Speaker 2>disguises on and off and that has this great show

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<v Speaker 2>of him with his low hood and sunglasses like a fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>like I gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Get back in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a new BB report, a man on the

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<v Speaker 1>Street report, and people really, really really think Dared Devil

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<v Speaker 1>did the shipwreck, which is not necessarily you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a grain of truth in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But he did not do this. Yes, was was he

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<v Speaker 3>the one who blew it up?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a terrorist attack, yes, by Wilson Fisk. But

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<v Speaker 2>was a terrorist attack but Devil.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also am loving the way that they're using

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<v Speaker 2>these BB reports as essentially like propaganda because we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really seen I'm not saying that they don't represent like

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<v Speaker 2>a certain segment of To.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, it's an important measure that Fisk is, Fisk does

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<v Speaker 1>have support. It's not like he's unpopular.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But what I love is that the BB report

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<v Speaker 2>only shows people who support Fisk. Yes, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really interesting way of using like a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I guess, like an influencer storyline in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that we haven't necessarily seen on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Well like small sample size, But I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's notable, you know, like there's the man

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<v Speaker 1>on the street. The person on the street is broadly

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<v Speaker 1>supportive of Fisk. Stell Dan and Sheila discussed the anti

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk social campaign, the Masked Fisk, the Wilson Fisk Report

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they call it. The person in the Fisk

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<v Speaker 1>mask Dan is you know. Sheilla's like, have you talked

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<v Speaker 1>to it about the mayor? And Dan's like, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna freak out. He hates that and he needs

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<v Speaker 4>the masking.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan says, let's just ignore it. That's the better way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Sheila says, well, you better trwly do him

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<v Speaker 1>before he finds out. And then he comes to you

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<v Speaker 1>and asks about it. And we discovered that the video

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<v Speaker 1>contains security footage from the ship, which means that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a leak in the Mayor's office. Someone is leaking internal

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<v Speaker 1>intel from the Mayor's office to this Fisk report. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>thinks Fisk is being smart, you know, like with the

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<v Speaker 1>way he with the way he framed his announcement to

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<v Speaker 1>the city, because now the resistance, the kind of broad,

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<v Speaker 1>uh decentralized collection of anti anti Fisk forces, might not

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<v Speaker 1>trust him. They might think that Matt is in league

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Powell Officer Powell tells Fisk he's the taboo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's upping Fisk's personal security. Now the bull's eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>the loose, and Powell's like, I can't wait to take

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<v Speaker 1>down Darryl.

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<v Speaker 3>It is gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Coole is hanging around all scarred up after the fight

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<v Speaker 1>from the previous season with Punisher and Daredevil, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is like, get me back on the task force. I

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<v Speaker 1>need it. I gotta have it. It's in my blood.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta have it.

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<v Speaker 4>I need it.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta get out of there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I love it. I love the task Force.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, the task Force comes to see Cherry basically to

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<v Speaker 1>interrogate and intimidate him, but all the all the regular

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<v Speaker 1>air quotes, the good cops, the older cops.

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<v Speaker 4>Are there, including Detective Kim a Ka.

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<v Speaker 1>She's luckily there are more cops now in New York

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<v Speaker 1>to determ stuff and Andy doesn't have to handle every

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<v Speaker 1>single investigation turns up. I'm always just like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like she's not gonna get her due for just the

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<v Speaker 1>sheer workloads that she has.

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<v Speaker 2>Because now they're basically acting like there's always been a

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<v Speaker 2>normal police force and that was no, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>detective Kid.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. As the Task Force guys are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like chased out of there, they go down the

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<v Speaker 1>elevator and Dex kills them.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, good job, we belive and he's back my job

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<v Speaker 6>text in the group chat and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 6>episode two is really unhealthily just validating my love.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Decks because that in this situation we need to

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So Powell goes to Cherry's room and Cherry's gone. Powell

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<v Speaker 1>calls fist because like, Cherry's gone, our decks and the

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<v Speaker 1>Resistance working together. Question is like no, no, no way, but

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<v Speaker 1>he can't talk now because I have dinner with Dressa.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan goes to Fisk's office. Fisk shows him pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote car crash that killed Commissioner Gallo. Rip

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner Gallo, I know, like, oh yeah, this is how

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<v Speaker 1>the car crashed to smash is it tiet?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm sorry, guys, we saw you smash it with

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<v Speaker 3>your habs.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what happened. It's clear that you know. Fisk

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<v Speaker 1>is making it clear to Dan without saying so that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I killed Commissioner Gallo, which we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Fisk shows Dan the video that you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson Report videos that Dan has been trying to not

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<v Speaker 1>show Wilson, and Dan is like, uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I beIN busy and does a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>stuffuz has been gone on.

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk then slips Bebie's bloody business card that chief that

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<v Speaker 1>was found in Gallow's suit pocket from last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that for last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Into Dan's pocket and basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, you know what is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan is like why you know I'm always protecting

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<v Speaker 1>you because Fisks ask him like what is your Like,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you? What is your who do you protect

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<v Speaker 1>in this in in life?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like, I don't protecting you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a good answer. Buck brings Vanessa a selection of

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<v Speaker 1>pretty little guns which she needs to guard herself from

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<v Speaker 1>the Deck's threat. And we'll see if I mean good

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<v Speaker 1>luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going on with Vanessa this season, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't quite walk her out.

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<v Speaker 3>She just saw around like she's just so out of

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<v Speaker 3>it and around.

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<v Speaker 1>She seems generally like not happy that she's just around

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<v Speaker 1>and being sent away and being sent in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like she misses her role as a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of class.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's take a quick break while be read. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're right. The next day, the task Force members

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<v Speaker 1>are moving cargo to the doc. Karen and Matt are

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<v Speaker 1>watching from afar. Right now, it's just creates of diapers,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, at the right time, it'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>guns and grades and all. Vanessa is like, why do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be mayor? I don't get it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you were there, you were a crime boss and it

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<v Speaker 1>was great and you had the whole city in your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you didn't have this public profile. You could

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<v Speaker 1>do it in the shadows, Fisc is like, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have an impact on the people, which

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do as a crime boss, Like I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to be inspired by the Fisk mission

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you know, first New York City, then

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<v Speaker 1>the globe, and you know, who knows, who knows what?

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like a doomsday tease, like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>a little multiverse tees.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That after the conversation that he had, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>mister Childs Lost Week, where it was kind of this like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a small fish in a Biger pond than you realize,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of what he I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>made Wilson want to be more.

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<v Speaker 3>Powerful, take over more.

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<v Speaker 2>He's starting to see outside New York, but he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to get that is by being like

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<v Speaker 2>a maniacal politician. Hilariously, he could just be a super

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<v Speaker 2>villain and probably do just as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that Wilson doesn't understand that matt

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<v Speaker 1>understands is Wilson, You're very powerful. You're a street level guy,

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<v Speaker 1>your small time like I and a very powerful small

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<v Speaker 1>time guy. But the reason that Matthew Murdoch is giving

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<v Speaker 1>you trouble is because you're a fucking small time guy exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Murdoch like hangs out with like mutated Avengers, like

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<v Speaker 2>he can he can call in the crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Four foot ten nieces of former vigilantes.

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, oh my god, I mean she doesn't fuck around.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Wilson get a grip. That night, the task

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<v Speaker 1>Force begins moving the real boat stuff, the real guns,

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<v Speaker 1>the real grenades, that all the hardware into the off

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<v Speaker 1>the boat and somewhere into the city. Matt is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I gotta suit up and stop this before

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the guns get into the hands of the

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<v Speaker 1>task Force or whoever. Angela del Toro, Nissa Lawhite Tiger,

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<v Speaker 1>and her aunt Solodad are discussing Matt. They agree forget

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<v Speaker 1>all that announcements from Wilson fisk I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's a good man, He's in the resistance. Angela is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do good in the world. They go

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<v Speaker 1>into a bodega where there's like a trio of young

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood kids stealing shit. Solodad is like, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Put that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to say right, I just need to say, solo, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>If you didn't get involved in this scenario, this definitely

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<v Speaker 2>might not have happened. Now, I understand she was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be a good neighbor. She told the kids to

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<v Speaker 2>put it back. She didn't want them to rope from him,

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<v Speaker 2>but also she didn't want them to get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah. Very respectable.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you didn't do this, then the next thing

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<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the bodego owner pulls a shotgun and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>put it back. I want you to clear and everything up.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the task force shows up. They start fucking going

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely crazy, beating everybody over the head. They arrest so.

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<v Speaker 4>Much duns the kids yes, and a near riot.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaks out of the street as they take Soladan and

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<v Speaker 1>Heather our good friend. Heather speaks it a dinner for

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<v Speaker 1>a New York City's power Elite. This is the dinner

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<v Speaker 1>that Fisk was going to. The Vanessa Vanessa comes. Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>comes up after the speech and is like, you and Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd you leave it?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, dude, It's so funny because I know that

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<v Speaker 2>she is basically just like, how about you could like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that what Vanessa was asking here was like,

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<v Speaker 2>so like could you get back with him and like

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<v Speaker 2>fuck around for this? But Vanessa, but Anna's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to kill vigilantes, Like she's not ready

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<v Speaker 2>to play the spy game.

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<v Speaker 1>So Heather says, well, Matt really hates your husband, and

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa knows. And then Heather's like, but you know, of

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<v Speaker 1>course he's dead. Rip to him that manah, he's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wants to know if the you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>it the Punisher, was it Daredevil who killed him? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Heather is, as you said, very very anti vigilante. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she's eager to get the vigilante trials rolling and outside

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<v Speaker 1>Decks is like watching this whole conversation in the mcdee office,

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<v Speaker 1>the D and D office, Murdoch and McDuffie, she's working late.

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<v Speaker 1>She hears something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Angela, Oh, who, by the way, is more tiny

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<v Speaker 2>than I ever remembered.

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<v Speaker 1>Angela is like, they can't shoot her with the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's so she is fuck your shit out,

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<v Speaker 2>tiny figure.

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<v Speaker 1>So she tells McDuffie that I need help. My aunt

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<v Speaker 1>just got kidnapped. I hear you're taking all the pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bono work in the city and then she looks. Angela

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<v Speaker 1>looks over and is like, oh my god, is that

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<v Speaker 1>like my uncle's white tiger suit and amulet.

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<v Speaker 3>His giant sick like the piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, She's like, I want to see it. Meanwhile, Fisk, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we see that the poster for Fisk's actual

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<v Speaker 1>boxing match, and it's called scrapping in the Kitchen too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, if you're gonna call it that, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>have it be Wilson fisk usus Matt my dog. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like at some point that was gonna be the battle.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously it's like hard to argue with the blind

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer bit. But yeah, I thought that was really funny

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<v Speaker 2>scraping in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan has BB over, and it's clear he thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a romantic baby a baby goes in

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<v Speaker 1>for the kiss. She's like what he's like, and BB's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were working on the b Report. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you're gonna help me with the Bby Report, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the BB Report, Dan, But that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>editing and filming for one person, like I does BB

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<v Speaker 1>have a crew like she's it's a crazy amount of

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a crazy amount of work.

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<v Speaker 2>She's doing so much work free apartment like comes anape

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<v Speaker 2>and eye on her, keep tip tips on her like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you could be doing much better. Also, I love the

0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 2>dance like it could be could be a working a

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<v Speaker 2>working dinner I made.

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<v Speaker 1>I made some cock events it to get the wine.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, hey, are you seeing that the weird the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor fisical videos coming from inside the office.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where the you know the videos are coming.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a leak in the armice.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm waiting about my computer.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh it was a you biby And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it is real, you should stop doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I got I gotta say I think again. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the relationship between Dan and Biebe has actually been

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<v Speaker 2>done to the point where it's like actually becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting plot point because BB is actually very impressed

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<v Speaker 2>by the fact that Dan spent the time to make

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<v Speaker 2>this meal, didn't get it from an Italian restaurant, And

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<v Speaker 2>you can feel those seeds of friendship are real and

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<v Speaker 2>and this is I feel like when we're really starting

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<v Speaker 2>to see Dan also show what his real priority is,

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 2>which is bbe because he could have he knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was her, he could have sold her out, and instead

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<v Speaker 2>he just has this dinner with her and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>just fucking.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop, like do it. And then you know, Bibi goes,

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<v Speaker 3>well he killed my uncle and he's like, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking gall on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go And Danny's like, no, what Burder what Moday.

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<v Speaker 4>The best guy around, he's the mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>What Fisk lets Sheila see the gallow accident photos as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and the message is very clear as Yeah. At Josie's bar,

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<v Speaker 1>Angie Kim and the old cops come through. Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>Karen are hiding his side, and Cherry is hiding out

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<v Speaker 1>there as well, and they'll meet up and talk about stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Another weirdo Fisk tape comes out, the Mayor Fisk tape.

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<v Speaker 1>It it's like a red pill blue pill type thing,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and we see shots the task force beating up people,

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.199
<v Speaker 1>kidnapping people off the street. And then and then we

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<v Speaker 1>see after the actual video comes out, who is doing

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<v Speaker 1>and it is BB's BB in the mask self taping

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<v Speaker 1>and self editing. This is a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, the BB Report has got nothing on

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the Fisk Report. I love her meme style editing. I

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:28.399
<v Speaker 2>love her like edgy YouTube vibes. I would also say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that they didn't draw this out because it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty clear it was Bobe, and I think if

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<v Speaker 2>they'd have drawn it out later into the season, they

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<v Speaker 2>would have had to reveal it was Dan or somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested that again, this is a one woman BIB show, Like,

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.879
<v Speaker 2>this woman needs to become a social media manager for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody because she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Making videos like nobody else she's making.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hours of work.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so much work.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, like I said, I'm very into the Fisk tapes.

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're a really cool use of her skill.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they are different enough from the BB

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<v Speaker 2>Report that is a plausible deniability until she started using

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<v Speaker 2>leaked info. Though, I will say it did give me

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite moments, which is when it says

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<v Speaker 2>dustedly do good across in the dead of a logo

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and he's kind of putting his hand out but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's baby, be careful boebe.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa's dreaming. She's in Central Park Dex's hunting her, and

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:26.200
<v Speaker 1>she knows it's because of all the truly terrible things

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<v Speaker 1>that she has done to Decks over the years. She

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>wakes up. Thiscomforts her, and Vanessa's like, can't we just

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<v Speaker 1>like leave all this and go live somewhere peaceful?

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<v Speaker 2>One day She's like, we're so rich, Like we have

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<v Speaker 2>so much art, we have so much stolen money, Like

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 2>why aren't we just living somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and Karen are having like the mirror of that conversation.

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Karen tells Matt she has no idea how to get

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<v Speaker 1>him into Red Hook. It's way too dangerous. The task

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<v Speaker 1>Force is crawling all over the place. Matt says, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we leave the city. And Matt's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if if left the city, I'd missed my record

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>albums and I'd missed you know, the Indian spot we

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>go to and all this stuff. Karen puts on one

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of his favorite records and they dance, and then Matt

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>hears something. It is the task Force outside Josie's with

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>loud speakers, and Matt takes out the task Force guys

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 1>so Josie can get out of there. Matt and Karen

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<v Speaker 1>or just go ham on the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is like a cathartics do not

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>give a shit. They fight together. We see that Karen

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.239
<v Speaker 2>has really been training as on that gummy you know,

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and she's been learning. Meanwhile, they get separated after this

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<v Speaker 2>in the midst of like the chaos, Matt doesn't know

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>where Karen is.

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Where it she. He's like yelling for her. But there's

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a rendezvous point, like a backup place where they meet

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>after stuff, and she's there. She's fine, and Matt is

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>relieved and she's like, I have to show you something.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we go down in a basement. We figure

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>out that the renezvous point is frank Castle's old basement.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>The way that they are teasing Frankness is just so

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 2>much fun, Like they dude, They just keep being like,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, who would be a help? Oh oh, now

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 2>we're in his special place, Like we know what the

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<v Speaker 2>how did he did he pay rent?

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<v Speaker 4>Like five years in advance?

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 3>How did I to work this?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought?

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Didn't we work out? He was like walking as a

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<v Speaker 3>janitor for the building.

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>At some point like I am gone, Like maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>handed the least to Karen.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, it's crazy and nobody comes down here anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so they gotta say, though, that's the same as

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Karen and Matt's place, Like how many just maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is the outcome of a New York where every apartment

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars.

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.439
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's loads of abandoned building.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it seems that Madden Karen's place seems like a

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:53.640
<v Speaker 1>squat like it's it's abandoned, abandoned building, but through another

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>building you have to get to it, whereas Frank's basement

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.479
<v Speaker 1>is like in an operational building. I don't anyway, I

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.360
<v Speaker 1>love it. She's got a task force. Now Karen has

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>captured a task force guy and is like, look what.

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>It's a very like pulp fiction type, you know, reservoir

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>dogs type moment where Matt is like, what you fucking.

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Do the guy?

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 3>This guy?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the end of it. Let's take a quick

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>break and will welcome on to producer Eron to discussed

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>this episode. Errah, Okay, welcome eron to the program. Another

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>fantastic episode of the Born Again Daredevil program. The thing,

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>here's what I love about it. I don't know about

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you too. It's it is really as ripped from the

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>comics as you can get like all the like as

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>gritty and ridiculous and fun as a comics plotline, like

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>unashamedly pulled from the comics.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's actually going back to what we're talking

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 2>about before the break, about the rent and the real

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>estate and all that. The reason that we ask is

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>because you have those moments. But for the most part,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>the suspension of this belief here is really high because

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 2>they've created this kind of interior world within New York

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that you believe, sort of like John Wick in the Underworld,

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, we kind of believe that these people can

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 2>just navigate New York in the dark, navigate parts of

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Hell's Kitchen, even though we know.

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 3>That in real life is a very built up area.

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 2>And you can't just be like secretly squatting in it

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>as a wanted person who everyone in the world knows,

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>but like you don't really mind because it does feel

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>like a comic book. Aaron, what was your big takeaway

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>from episode two?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, speaking of you know, pulling right from the comics,

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 7>it's pulling right from real life too. And we've said

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 7>that ye multiple times, so so many things there. I

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 7>do want to hit on the real estate conversation. Yeah, Bibi,

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 7>where you got that huge room that you're filming all

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 7>these self tapes in? That is an enormous boiler room

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 7>or something in the apartment. I don't know that that was.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what I called out too.

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I will say she's she's clearly on a like a

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty four a wide lens twenty four to twenty eight.

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>It will make a small room look bigger, so it

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>might not be as big as it appears to be.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say that, gods look like a boiler room. Again.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I would love to know all these places

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 2>they're hiding.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>She's probably in the basement of Gracie mansion doing this

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of the implication.

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Right then you would do fucking sit.

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Right underneath their noses.

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<v Speaker 7>That would be great. You talked about this a little bit,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 7>the mirroring storylines, and I'm not talking about Fisk throwing

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 7>his trainer into the mirror. I'm talking about them doing

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 7>the Matt and Karen in bed, Fisk and Vanessa in bed.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 7>You know, Fisk saying how many how many universes are

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 7>there for me to conquer? And Matt and Karen having

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 7>this deeply intimate conversation, both of them talking about why

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 7>they want to stay in New York. And they also

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 7>kind of had the same thing with you know, Bullseye.

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:04.719
<v Speaker 7>They had this They really introduced the blue light for him,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 7>both in the beginning at the church as well as

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 7>when Vanessa wakes up and there's the blue flower next

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 7>to her, and that whole whole scene is just like

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 7>bathed in this blue that as opposed to Daredevil getting

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 7>all these reds and stuff. So I thought that this

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 7>was like the first time I felt like this show

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 7>really had some kind of, you know, heavy cinematic feel

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 7>to these kinds of bits, not the fights. They've always

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 7>been so good at doing these action scenes, and this

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 7>was the first time I felt like they were like,

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 7>we got to focus on these interpersonal drama sections too

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 7>to build you up to obviously these exciting action scenes.

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>It definitely leans back into the more Netflix version, but

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 2>it still brings more action and this kind of comic

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>bookie fun that wasn't able to be had in those

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>because they were meant to be grounded.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 3>But you, I agree, are in that cinemagic moment. Also,

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the whole.

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Blue Dream, I get that it's bullseye and everything, but

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I most feeling like I feel like something's going on

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>with Vanessa that we don't quite get. Yeah, And I

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>can't tell if it's like she's gonna be sick or

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>she's worried. I don't know what it is, but like

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested. It feels like she's on a different journey.

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>And I would also say that in itself mirrors Karen,

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>not because she is out of it or anything, but

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>because she too is getting this hint of being on

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>a different journey from Matt, Like Matt has his rules,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Matt has his hope, and we get that ending where

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it really seems like Karen's like, eh, I'm a bit

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>more like Frank now, like what does that mean to you?

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Like can we still there?

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It does feel as if Vanessa is on a path

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to sabotaging Wilson somehow has anymore like while Karen, you know,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>there's like a there's like a metaphor for like coalition

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>politics with the resistance where it's like you got Matt

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>who's like, we gotta do it the legal way, guys,

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a system, and we gotta believe in our system,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>even if it's broken and corrupt, yes, And then we

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>have other people within this like big Tint vigilanti politics

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>are like, I don't know, I think we should kill him.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>The tension and the tension between that is like very

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>very real and very actually like super fun. It's fun

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to watch Karen struggle with her interior like bloodlust that

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>she I don't know that you know, Frank Frank pilled her.

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Sheer pilled her. Say so she's not okay with Bullseye

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>being involved, but then she's.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Well because bulls I did kill their friends.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 7>Yes, but then she's like, oh man, I wish Frank

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 7>were here to kill people instead. On the other hand,

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 7>I was like kind of okay with bulls Eye killing them,

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 7>but doesn't want Frank involved. And yeah, they they have

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 7>this really interesting give and take when they're okay with

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 7>pushing the line and crossing it and then they kind

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 7>of fall back and I understand bulls I did kill Foggy,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 7>so that is a huge thing.

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 3>But like Matt's kind of way, it's funny and I

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 3>love this.

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 2>This is the kind of meet and conversation and discourse

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>starting that we haven't really had narratively in a show

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>for a long time where it's like, well, what would

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>you do? And it feels more real than ever because

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>now you know, this is essentially a show that's saying, well, hey,

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, wouldn't what would you do? Would you go

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 2>back and kill baby Hitler? Or if Hitler's just fully alive,

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>or if he's Wilson Fisk, Like Karen's just like at

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>the point where she's like, well, if he's evil and

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>he's ruining the station and we just get rid of him.

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 3>But Matt just can't think that way. And it's quite a.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Scary thing to hear somebody say in TV in this

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>context of real life.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 3>But I think that's what the show is doing so.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Brilliantly, and I'm just so excited for people to, you know,

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>start having these conversations. Our discord was like, couldn't believe

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>after the first episode just how much the show really

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>feels as timely as and or which we just weren't

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>expecting from a dead evil show.

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. I will say that it does.

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>The danger of this framing is that it does potentially

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>set up a situation where Matt is so dumb and

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>naive that we can't take it anymore. That's because because

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.959
<v Speaker 1>if Matt, you know, it's like break breaking and entering

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>assault the dead sailors on the ship who went down.

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he caused that.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>But let you know that they wouldn't have sunk the ship.

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You got to take some responsibility for that. And so

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to to be like you gotta to uphold the system,

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we got to break the law. I'm not like saying

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>no to that. I think it's I think it's the

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>central tension of Daredevil, like as a figure, but like

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>if Matt really fully believed in what he was saying,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't he shouldn't he just go back to work at McDuffie,

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Like why why are you that's what you should be doing.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Then go do that and let Dexon Karen kill all

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the task forts guys exactly, make a make a two

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>sided team.

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 3>We can do both. I mean, I also, this is such.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Classic Matt because it's a lot. But the funniest shait

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>about Matt is like he's always like, I don't kill,

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and then just teams up.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 3>With loads of people who kill. So like it's like

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>he loves the bullseye.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Just showed up and killed those guys because he was

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>just gonna die and not kill them, and they're happily

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>in Catholic heaven or hell, being like, I didn't kill.

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Those guys, but bulls. I was like, hey, I killed

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>them for you.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, how did you?

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>What did you? I thought he was going to the

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>church to kill Sister Maggie or to make her tell

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>him where Matt is. But it seems but by the

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>end of it, by the end of the episode, I'm like, waiter,

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they're doing a not the reverse heel

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>turn with Dex, Like that's how it's setting it up

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>so that we are going to be like, oh, he's

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the good guy in this one.

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that if we look at the history of

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the MCU Marvel, Netflix TV shows, all of the heroes

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 2>within them, whether it was Jessica or Luke, even you know,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Danny or whatever, they were always very flawed people, Like

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of the point, like Jessica's killed people,

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Jessica has like tons of guilt, Jessica was controlled by

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the Purple Man. Jessica killed Luke's wife, like, so, I

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>do think there is a potential that taking a character

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 2>like Dex who has a big fandom, who is so

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>brilliantly played by the actor who I learned recently was

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>a professional tennis player before and was never thought he

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 2>was going to be an actor and kind of just

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>ended up as an actor.

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 3>He's at C two me too this weekend.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually, and I think that it would make a lot

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 2>of sense from what they're hinting that we see a

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Dex who is essentially on a redemption arc. Now that

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean he's going to become the world's greatest guy

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>who never kills anyone, but I do think that what

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>is being hinted at here is that Dex has kind

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>of realized that he was being manipulated by Fisk and Vanessa,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>which we knew because that was why he wanted to

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>kill them at the end of last season. He does

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>have guilt about killing Foggy. We saw that end of

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 2>last season. So yeah, this is giving to me me, Like,

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, he.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>He's probably killed like two hundred people. It's like when

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you already attacked the bar and he like killed bystanders

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>died in that attack.

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Remember when they threw him off the roof and we

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 2>all thought he was definitely dead, but he was just

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>chilling like, yeah, it was a lot.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of guy, it's it's listen. I'm gonna fully

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 1>buy in, especially because I'm sure he's gonna be killing

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>more Task members task Force members from here on out.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>That said, let's not like loose sight of the fact. No,

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>there's probably like thirty there's probably thirty people from the

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>bar attack that are fucking deceased, dead dead dead.

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 3>If we remember when Bullseye was fussed introduced there, I

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 3>mean he.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Was psychopath, like, yeah, he was a serial killer, serial killer.

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Now look he's a good boy now and.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>He's a good boy. But no, no, I love the

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 2>hint because I agree with you. I definitely thought that

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 2>she was good, that he was going there to kill her.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>But also I kind of like the unknowable nature of

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Dex right now, which is like, if he didn't see

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that priest then she had have been there, maybe he

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>would have killed her, Like we don't know, but that

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 2>interaction with the priest made him think, oh I can

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 2>get absolution.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's a different route for me, you know.

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I also want to say, guys, I got many people

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>who are pointing this out on the internet. Dex did

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>not waste his time by writing your welcome on the knife.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>He scratched it in so that Da Devil, who is blind,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>would be able to feel it.

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 3>These are friends.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Come on, guys, he's he's he's in a toy He's

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 2>trying to be a toying relationship with him. He wants

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to be Dead Devil's new bestie, new joker.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but come on.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>He did not write them on the knife, he scratched

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 2>them in. Come on, guys, Dead Evil could feel it. Yeah,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I love I obviously very excited for more decks. I

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>do think that the way they handle it is basically

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to be He's still crazy and a murderer,

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>but he's murdering the right people. That's the only way

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna feel. Yes, believable. So Jason, like you said,

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to see him taking out the task Force. Also,

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 2>we know who's in charge of the wider MCU right

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 2>now with Valentino, with all these villains with the thunderbolts.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>So that is a place for heroes who have done

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>horrific things like chopp someone's head off with a fucking

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>captain in America shield on camera. You can still become

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>a hero. So I think that is an interesting space

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>that we're in when it comes to Dex as well.

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.439
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, MCU has no shortage of villains or criminals turned

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 7>heroes between Thunderbolts Guardians of the Galaxy, Like, we've got

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 7>plenty of that. I mean, there's hints of Widow and

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 7>Hawkeye doing who knows what.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Well Widow is. I mean Hawky was a serial killer. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 3>he went to Ron in phase.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So I mean I think that there's definitely room

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 7>for it. But I think Dex will always be somewhat

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 7>of a third party wild card. Like I don't think

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna get a scene of Dex and Karen side

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 7>by side fighting, No, but like, and he might be

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 7>somewhere in the fight I would love to see.

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see that him and Karen showdown because

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have to come into contact at some point

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 2>and she is not gonna be happy about that.

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's talk about our death pool. Who is good

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>at this point after season, after episode two, who do

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>we think is going to make it and who do

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we think is not going to make it to the end?

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 7>Erin So, just a reminder, last episode, Jason, you chose Karen,

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 7>Vanessa and Bullseye is who you thought were most likely

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 7>to die?

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Rosie?

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 7>You had Karen, Daniel and swordsman Jack, and I had Cherry,

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 7>Buck and Heather.

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Aaron, who are you? Are you switching out any

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 2>are you keeping it the same? What do you feel like?

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 7>I think that you know, Buck didn't really do too

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 7>much in this episode other than like advise Fisk about

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 7>trying to reveal Matt's identity, So I don't Buck's neutral

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 7>like for me right now? Cherry though, like showing up

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 7>and you start in a hospital room, you got a

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.240
<v Speaker 7>couple old cops protecting you from the task Force.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm like full in on this.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 7>I think he's he's not gonna make it.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I think they do don't have the security.

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.280
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a double heart attack in the previous episodes,

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>so I think it's very tough for him.

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I agree. What about Head though, you think she's surviving

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 3>and you think she's dying.

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 7>You know, I think she's going to I think she's

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 7>gonna have some big part to play. I think they're

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 7>they're doing too much teasing of her and Matt and

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 7>their history, and we're seeing how much Vigilantes have messed

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 7>her up.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm sticking with it. I think, yeah, yeah,

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Heather's Hell vigil that was a super villain.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, healer, make it makes sense. Muse was never just

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Muse was killing random people like yeah, painting with their

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>bod like come on, s okay, So you're sticking with

0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the Deadpool.

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 7>Auron, Yeah, I'm sticking with him. Is not enough stuff

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 7>to change anything? On Buck, I think, okay, sticking with

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 7>those three.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking Karen off my dead Pool. I think that

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 3>she's coming through.

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that this Punisher Frank thing is gonna have

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>to I think that's gonna have to stick to until

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 2>we get to this Punisher special that we now know

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>is gonna come out on May twelve. So I think

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Karen's still there. I think Daniel, I don't know, but

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Swordsmen take him off. I'm adding, Bbe, I think after

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>this episode she's playing with fire.

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 3>We don't know that she is gonna make it.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that that, for me is the big after

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>this one, Bibe, I don't want you to die, but

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have all eyes on you, babe.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think she's gonna last, do you.

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 7>Have one more Daniel Bibe and.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Oof because Karen's gone Daniel Baby Hmm, I don't think

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Swordsman is important enough. I'm gonna add Cherry to he

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 2>has not been looking good. Let's go for a sake. Sorry, bro,

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>but if he survivees.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Good for him.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>And I refuse to put I will not put Christa

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 2>McDuffie on that because I need her to survive this season, Jason.

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Last week it was was Karen, Vanessa Bullseye. Any changes.

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that there are some either or situations here.

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 1>I think it's either Karen or Vanessa. I don't think

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be both. And I think it's either be

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>B or Dan. I don't think it's gonna be Yeah.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep Bullseye. I am going to I think

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Karen leaving Matt for Frank is too juicy a plotline

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to pass up, So I need to take her off,

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna go Vanessa Bullseye and either be Be

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>your Dan. Yeah, yeah, either.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I think it's either be Be or Dan.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Ah.

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>It's either be Be or Dan. I think one of

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>them has gotta go.

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Which is such a shame because I actually really love

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 2>that relationship.

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Is why I think it is gonna happen.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I'm going to want to have some

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 7>interaction that's not marred by duplicity and sneaky. I mean,

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 7>in each other's back at some point. Just give him

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 7>something good, because it's.

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Something Bebe is. I continue to listen, Bbe's fighting a

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>good fight. I'm not sure she's doing it in the

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 1>most ethical way or the smart way or the did

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>clearly not the smartest way, because like you have to

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>build in some firewalls between yourself and video that comes

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>directly from the mayor's I'm saying, like, could you please,

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>like at least get a hack involved, But like I

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>know that there's someone who can, you know, ping the

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>sk signal so it looks like it's coming from somewhere else,

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>like Memphis doesn't know that much about technology, you know

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>what I'll add, I do think that it's very possible

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that we lose Buck as well. It's because like what's

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>going on with what's going with Buck? You keep wanting

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:02.720
<v Speaker 1>him to do more and he it's like we're setting

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>him up for some big scene that never happens.

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested too, because he's kind of on a sim

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it feels like they're setting him up for a similar

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 2>route as Bulls Eye in a way, even though I

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think so. I don't think that's where it's going.

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 2>But like you know this, he's like more thoughtful, he's

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>more kind. Even when he does the terrible thing, he

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of has acknowledgement of it.

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know.

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>It feels like he himself is having his own kind

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of crisis, but they need to speed it up.

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Will let us know what it is?

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree? Okay, Well we're going to continue following Dared

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>douvel Board again season two on X ray Vision. Coming

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 1>up Mall's Shadow Lord and of course more Dearedevil Board Again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode, Aron, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye bye.

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