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Speaker 2: This is our episode two Dared Devil recap and conversation,
Speaker 2: so we will be bringing in super produced Aaron after
Speaker 2: we have recapped this action packed episode. And guys, just
Speaker 2: so you know, today we are recapping episode two. Tune
Speaker 2: in tomorrow for our recap of episode three when you
Speaker 2: have also watched him. As we know, both came out
Speaker 2: at the same time, but you both won an in
Speaker 2: depth version of both, which is why we have two episodes.
Speaker 1: We open right after the fight Cherry, who has suffered
Speaker 1: at least one heart attack, possibly two.
Speaker 3: How doing.
Speaker 4: Not doing well? He's doing well.
Speaker 1: Weel that to the ambulance. Dared Devil is watching from
Speaker 1: the rooftops. You'd think by now the cops would not
Speaker 1: to have a helicopter scanning the rooftops, but they don't know.
Speaker 1: And Daredevil is watching the body bags of the definitely deceased.
Speaker 2: They got the balls, I got him, it's not They
Speaker 2: do not know who Matt Murdock is. I know it
Speaker 2: seemed like at the end he may have been unmasked, but.
Speaker 3: No, they're all dead. Benjamin got them.
Speaker 1: Fist bump for football's eye. Good job. Dex goes to church.
Speaker 1: He's looking for sister Maggie and you're thinking to kill
Speaker 1: her to do what but look, thankfully she's in Rome
Speaker 1: on sabbatical and Dex asks the priest there for absolution. Meanwhile, Fisk,
Speaker 1: who has a boxing match coming up by.
Speaker 2: The way, Like, did we miss this from season one?
Speaker 2: I feel like or is this the first introduction? Please
Speaker 2: tell me, guys, there's so much content, but I love this.
Speaker 2: He's got like a celebrity style Jake Pool esque boxing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's going on, and he has to train for it
Speaker 2: to tell the people he's the real mayor or something.
Speaker 1: So he's he's working up for it, like you know,
Speaker 1: time is money, So he's getting briefings on this recent
Speaker 1: Daredevil task Force incident while he is training with his
Speaker 1: guy and he gets the update it's Cherry's in the hospital.
Speaker 1: We have four dead task Force members, and probably Bullseye
Speaker 1: helped Daredevil. He's Fisk's boxing coaches like, hey, like, you
Speaker 1: we got serious. I don't like this. I don't like
Speaker 1: the way you're the dedication. You gotta show some dedication.
Speaker 1: You're just like doing Mayor stuff. The whole deal is like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna strap the Mayor stuff while you're here with me,
Speaker 1: And so Fisk throws him across the gym through a mirror.
Speaker 2: I'm this is really I know we knew this from
Speaker 2: last season, but this matter is like beyond any help.
Speaker 2: Like not that we thought that was gonna be a
Speaker 2: redemption arc, but he's pasted even just like being able
Speaker 2: to be Mayor. Like, you can't just be throwing people
Speaker 2: into a mirror when you're still pretending to be like
Speaker 2: a useful member of society.
Speaker 3: Come on, my guy, who's gonna teach you? Now?
Speaker 2: Who's gonna teach your boxing before this important boxing match
Speaker 2: that you're doing.
Speaker 3: For some reason.
Speaker 1: Later on, Matt and Karen catch up and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Dex is toying with me to punish Fisk. Now,
Speaker 1: Karen is very very eager to see the Kingpin's downfall
Speaker 1: like happen as quickly as possible, so she's.
Speaker 4: Kind of like, maybe this is good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Matt is like, I gotta go look for the
Speaker 1: first mate from the Northern Star, who is still out
Speaker 1: there in the streets somewhere at the Agan Gardens Greek restaurant,
Speaker 1: task Force arrests the owner, whose name we still do
Speaker 1: not know, and I will say that I love it, Yes, please, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, they gotta be doing this because they want us
Speaker 2: to think she's related to Electra, because otherwise they just.
Speaker 4: Why are they keeping interesting?
Speaker 1: That's a good that's I I'd not thought of that,
Speaker 1: But I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that take.
Speaker 3: I feel like they want us to feel mysterious about huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I will also say like I'm completely and continuously
Speaker 1: staggered by like how this show is not pulling any
Speaker 1: punches with regards to what's going on like in the
Speaker 1: real world. At the same time, they've done some very
Speaker 1: smart things, such as all the illegal immigrants that are
Speaker 1: being hunted by the Task Force. White continuing on they're
Speaker 1: Greek Greek to break.
Speaker 3: It's like what they did with john Wick.
Speaker 2: Right. The part of the reason the first John Wick
Speaker 2: movie had such a huge impact is in the past,
Speaker 2: movies like that often would be like a white solo
Speaker 2: lone person, whether it's like Peppermint or something or death Wish,
Speaker 2: you know, and they show black people or people of color,
Speaker 2: and it becomes while you may enjoy the cathartic nature
Speaker 2: of the vengeance story, it can become very racist.
Speaker 3: John Wick moved that by.
Speaker 2: Having it be a person of color as the righteous
Speaker 2: killer and then all white Russian people, and it made
Speaker 2: it may way more palatable.
Speaker 3: And I feel like here they've done it.
Speaker 2: In their own way to kind of let people once
Speaker 2: again shrug off any real things that they may notice
Speaker 2: reflected in the plot.
Speaker 1: Buck makes a suggestion, Boss, why don't you tell the
Speaker 1: city that Matt murder because Daredevil and Fiscus like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we have this weird psycho Scenn.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't. You wouldn't get it. Buck, We have a thing.
Speaker 1: It's like a very deep thing, and he saved my
Speaker 1: life and that's what you gonna do.
Speaker 5: I no, Buck, I can't do it. Not even Vanessa.
Speaker 5: I don't even talk about that way.
Speaker 1: Vanessa Fisk makes a statement to the city.
Speaker 3: Actually incredibly good plan. This is a plan.
Speaker 1: It's just like he it's he subverts what you would
Speaker 1: think of him. Very canny, guys, Jesus, Matt, Matt Burdock
Speaker 1: is alive, the hero, Matt Burdock is alive.
Speaker 3: He risked his life save me.
Speaker 5: But now he's being targeted by the villainous masked villain
Speaker 5: Bullseye and other vigilanities. Help me find him and break
Speaker 5: him to safety.
Speaker 1: Very smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then immediately Matt and Karen realized that that MCU
Speaker 2: disguises on and off and that has this great show
Speaker 2: of him with his low hood and sunglasses like a fuck,
Speaker 2: like I gotta.
Speaker 3: Get back in the house.
Speaker 1: We get a new BB report, a man on the
Speaker 1: Street report, and people really, really really think Dared Devil
Speaker 1: did the shipwreck, which is not necessarily you know, there's
Speaker 1: a grain of truth in it.
Speaker 3: But he did not do this. Yes, was was he
Speaker 3: the one who blew it up?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: It was a terrorist attack, yes, by Wilson Fisk. But
Speaker 2: was a terrorist attack but Devil.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: But I also am loving the way that they're using
Speaker 2: these BB reports as essentially like propaganda because we haven't
Speaker 2: really seen I'm not saying that they don't represent like
Speaker 2: a certain segment of To.
Speaker 1: Me, it's an important measure that Fisk is, Fisk does
Speaker 1: have support. It's not like he's unpopular.
Speaker 2: No, But what I love is that the BB report
Speaker 2: only shows people who support Fisk. Yes, you know, so
Speaker 2: that's a really interesting way of using like a kind
Speaker 2: of I guess, like an influencer storyline in a way
Speaker 2: that we haven't necessarily seen on TV.
Speaker 1: Well like small sample size, But I think it's I
Speaker 1: just think it's notable, you know, like there's the man
Speaker 1: on the street. The person on the street is broadly
Speaker 1: supportive of Fisk. Stell Dan and Sheila discussed the anti
Speaker 1: Fisk social campaign, the Masked Fisk, the Wilson Fisk Report
Speaker 1: or whatever they call it. The person in the Fisk
Speaker 1: mask Dan is you know. Sheilla's like, have you talked
Speaker 1: to it about the mayor? And Dan's like, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?
Speaker 4: He's gonna freak out. He hates that and he needs
Speaker 4: the masking.
Speaker 1: Dan says, let's just ignore it. That's the better way
Speaker 1: to go. Sheila says, well, you better trwly do him
Speaker 1: before he finds out. And then he comes to you
Speaker 1: and asks about it. And we discovered that the video
Speaker 1: contains security footage from the ship, which means that there's
Speaker 1: a leak in the Mayor's office. Someone is leaking internal
Speaker 1: intel from the Mayor's office to this Fisk report. Matt
Speaker 1: thinks Fisk is being smart, you know, like with the
Speaker 1: way he with the way he framed his announcement to
Speaker 1: the city, because now the resistance, the kind of broad,
Speaker 1: uh decentralized collection of anti anti Fisk forces, might not
Speaker 1: trust him. They might think that Matt is in league
Speaker 1: with them. Powell Officer Powell tells Fisk he's the taboo.
Speaker 1: He's upping Fisk's personal security. Now the bull's eyes on
Speaker 1: the loose, and Powell's like, I can't wait to take
Speaker 1: down Darryl.
Speaker 3: It is gonna be great.
Speaker 1: Coole is hanging around all scarred up after the fight
Speaker 1: from the previous season with Punisher and Daredevil, and he
Speaker 1: is like, get me back on the task force. I
Speaker 1: need it. I gotta have it. It's in my blood.
Speaker 1: I gotta have it.
Speaker 4: I need it.
Speaker 3: I gotta get out of there.
Speaker 4: Now, I love it. I love the task Force.
Speaker 1: Uh, the task Force comes to see Cherry basically to
Speaker 1: interrogate and intimidate him, but all the all the regular
Speaker 1: air quotes, the good cops, the older cops.
Speaker 4: Are there, including Detective Kim a Ka.
Speaker 1: She's luckily there are more cops now in New York
Speaker 1: to determ stuff and Andy doesn't have to handle every
Speaker 1: single investigation turns up. I'm always just like, I feel
Speaker 1: like she's not gonna get her due for just the
Speaker 1: sheer workloads that she has.
Speaker 2: Because now they're basically acting like there's always been a
Speaker 2: normal police force and that was no, it was just
Speaker 2: detective Kid.
Speaker 1: That was it. As the Task Force guys are kind
Speaker 1: of like chased out of there, they go down the
Speaker 1: elevator and Dex kills them.
Speaker 6: Hey, good job, we belive and he's back my job
Speaker 6: text in the group chat and I was like, wow,
Speaker 6: episode two is really unhealthily just validating my love.
Speaker 3: Of Decks because that in this situation we need to
Speaker 3: I'm like correct.
Speaker 1: So Powell goes to Cherry's room and Cherry's gone. Powell
Speaker 1: calls fist because like, Cherry's gone, our decks and the
Speaker 1: Resistance working together. Question is like no, no, no way, but
Speaker 1: he can't talk now because I have dinner with Dressa.
Speaker 1: Dan goes to Fisk's office. Fisk shows him pictures of
Speaker 1: the quote unquote car crash that killed Commissioner Gallo. Rip
Speaker 1: Commissioner Gallo, I know, like, oh yeah, this is how
Speaker 1: the car crashed to smash is it tiet?
Speaker 3: Like I'm sorry, guys, we saw you smash it with
Speaker 3: your habs.
Speaker 1: We know what happened. It's clear that you know. Fisk
Speaker 1: is making it clear to Dan without saying so that
Speaker 1: you know, like I killed Commissioner Gallo, which we know.
Speaker 1: Then Fisk shows Dan the video that you know, the
Speaker 1: Wilson Report videos that Dan has been trying to not
Speaker 1: show Wilson, and Dan is like, uh.
Speaker 4: You know, I beIN busy and does a lot of
Speaker 4: stuffuz has been gone on.
Speaker 1: Fisk then slips Bebie's bloody business card that chief that
Speaker 1: was found in Gallow's suit pocket from last year. I
Speaker 1: remember that for last year.
Speaker 4: Into Dan's pocket and basically.
Speaker 1: Is like, you know what is going on?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: And Dan is like why you know I'm always protecting
Speaker 1: you because Fisks ask him like what is your Like,
Speaker 1: who do you? What is your who do you protect
Speaker 1: in this in in life?
Speaker 4: And he's like, I don't protecting you.
Speaker 1: Was a good answer. Buck brings Vanessa a selection of
Speaker 1: pretty little guns which she needs to guard herself from
Speaker 1: the Deck's threat. And we'll see if I mean good
Speaker 1: luck with that.
Speaker 2: I was going on with Vanessa this season, by the way,
Speaker 2: like I can't quite walk her out.
Speaker 3: She just saw around like she's just so out of
Speaker 3: it and around.
Speaker 1: She seems generally like not happy that she's just around
Speaker 1: and being sent away and being sent in there.
Speaker 3: I feel like she misses her role as a kind
Speaker 3: of class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's take a quick break while be read. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're right. The next day, the task Force members
Speaker 1: are moving cargo to the doc. Karen and Matt are
Speaker 1: watching from afar. Right now, it's just creates of diapers,
Speaker 1: but you know, at the right time, it'll be like
Speaker 1: guns and grades and all. Vanessa is like, why do
Speaker 1: you want to be mayor? I don't get it. You know,
Speaker 1: you were there, you were a crime boss and it
Speaker 1: was great and you had the whole city in your hand,
Speaker 1: but you you didn't have this public profile. You could
Speaker 1: do it in the shadows, Fisc is like, uh, well,
Speaker 1: I want to have an impact on the people, which
Speaker 1: you can't do as a crime boss, Like I want to.
Speaker 1: I want people to be inspired by the Fisk mission
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, first New York City, then
Speaker 1: the globe, and you know, who knows, who knows what?
Speaker 1: It felt like a doomsday tease, like a little bit
Speaker 1: a little multiverse tees.
Speaker 3: I also think as well.
Speaker 2: That after the conversation that he had, you know, with
Speaker 2: mister Childs Lost Week, where it was kind of this like, well,
Speaker 2: you're a small fish in a Biger pond than you realize,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of what he I feel like this
Speaker 2: made Wilson want to be more.
Speaker 3: Powerful, take over more.
Speaker 2: He's starting to see outside New York, but he thinks
Speaker 2: the only way to get that is by being like
Speaker 2: a maniacal politician. Hilariously, he could just be a super
Speaker 2: villain and probably do just as well.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that Wilson doesn't understand that matt
Speaker 1: understands is Wilson, You're very powerful. You're a street level guy,
Speaker 1: your small time like I and a very powerful small
Speaker 1: time guy. But the reason that Matthew Murdoch is giving
Speaker 1: you trouble is because you're a fucking small time guy exactly.
Speaker 2: Matt Murdoch like hangs out with like mutated Avengers, like
Speaker 2: he can he can call in the crew.
Speaker 1: Four foot ten nieces of former vigilantes.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, oh my god, I mean she doesn't fuck around.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Wilson get a grip. That night, the task
Speaker 1: Force begins moving the real boat stuff, the real guns,
Speaker 1: the real grenades, that all the hardware into the off
Speaker 1: the boat and somewhere into the city. Matt is like,
Speaker 1: I got I gotta suit up and stop this before
Speaker 1: you know, the guns get into the hands of the
Speaker 1: task Force or whoever. Angela del Toro, Nissa Lawhite Tiger,
Speaker 1: and her aunt Solodad are discussing Matt. They agree forget
Speaker 1: all that announcements from Wilson fisk I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Matt's a good man, He's in the resistance. Angela is like,
Speaker 1: I want to do good in the world. They go
Speaker 1: into a bodega where there's like a trio of young
Speaker 1: neighborhood kids stealing shit. Solodad is like, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Put that up.
Speaker 2: I need to say right, I just need to say, solo, Dad,
Speaker 2: If you didn't get involved in this scenario, this definitely
Speaker 2: might not have happened. Now, I understand she was trying
Speaker 2: to be a good neighbor. She told the kids to
Speaker 2: put it back. She didn't want them to rope from him,
Speaker 2: but also she didn't want them to get in trouble.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Very respectable.
Speaker 2: But if you didn't do this, then the next thing
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: Well, the bodego owner pulls a shotgun and is like,
Speaker 1: put it back. I want you to clear and everything up.
Speaker 1: Then the task force shows up. They start fucking going
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy, beating everybody over the head. They arrest so.
Speaker 4: Much duns the kids yes, and a near riot.
Speaker 1: Breaks out of the street as they take Soladan and
Speaker 1: Heather our good friend. Heather speaks it a dinner for
Speaker 1: a New York City's power Elite. This is the dinner
Speaker 1: that Fisk was going to. The Vanessa Vanessa comes. Vanessa
Speaker 1: comes up after the speech and is like, you and Matt,
Speaker 1: how'd you leave it?
Speaker 2: I know, dude, It's so funny because I know that
Speaker 2: she is basically just like, how about you could like,
Speaker 2: I know that what Vanessa was asking here was like,
Speaker 2: so like could you get back with him and like
Speaker 2: fuck around for this? But Vanessa, but Anna's just like,
Speaker 2: I just want to kill vigilantes, Like she's not ready
Speaker 2: to play the spy game.
Speaker 1: So Heather says, well, Matt really hates your husband, and
Speaker 1: Vanessa knows. And then Heather's like, but you know, of
Speaker 1: course he's dead. Rip to him that manah, he's dead.
Speaker 1: And she wants to know if the you know, was
Speaker 1: it the Punisher, was it Daredevil who killed him? You know,
Speaker 1: Heather is, as you said, very very anti vigilante. Now
Speaker 1: she's eager to get the vigilante trials rolling and outside
Speaker 1: Decks is like watching this whole conversation in the mcdee office,
Speaker 1: the D and D office, Murdoch and McDuffie, she's working late.
Speaker 1: She hears something.
Speaker 2: It's Angela, Oh, who, by the way, is more tiny
Speaker 2: than I ever remembered.
Speaker 1: Angela is like, they can't shoot her with the rest
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's so she is fuck your shit out,
Speaker 2: tiny figure.
Speaker 1: So she tells McDuffie that I need help. My aunt
Speaker 1: just got kidnapped. I hear you're taking all the pro
Speaker 1: Bono work in the city and then she looks. Angela
Speaker 1: looks over and is like, oh my god, is that
Speaker 1: like my uncle's white tiger suit and amulet.
Speaker 3: His giant sick like the piece.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, I want to see it. Meanwhile, Fisk, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we see that the poster for Fisk's actual
Speaker 1: boxing match, and it's called scrapping in the Kitchen too much.
Speaker 2: Also, if you're gonna call it that, you have to
Speaker 2: have it be Wilson fisk usus Matt my dog. I
Speaker 2: feel like at some point that was gonna be the battle.
Speaker 2: But obviously it's like hard to argue with the blind
Speaker 2: lawyer bit. But yeah, I thought that was really funny
Speaker 2: scraping in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Dan has BB over, and it's clear he thought this
Speaker 1: was gonna be a romantic baby a baby goes in
Speaker 1: for the kiss. She's like what he's like, and BB's like,
Speaker 1: I thought we were working on the b Report. I
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna help me with the Bby Report, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen the BB Report, Dan, But that's a lot of
Speaker 1: editing and filming for one person, like I does BB
Speaker 1: have a crew like she's it's a crazy amount of
Speaker 1: it's it's a crazy amount of work.
Speaker 2: She's doing so much work free apartment like comes anape
Speaker 2: and eye on her, keep tip tips on her like this,
Speaker 2: you could be doing much better. Also, I love the
Speaker 2: dance like it could be could be a working a
Speaker 2: working dinner I made.
Speaker 1: I made some cock events it to get the wine.
Speaker 1: And uh, hey, are you seeing that the weird the
Speaker 1: mayor fisical videos coming from inside the office.
Speaker 4: I don't know where the you know the videos are coming.
Speaker 4: There's a leak in the armice.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm waiting about my computer.
Speaker 1: And uh it was a you biby And you know,
Speaker 1: if it is real, you should stop doing it.
Speaker 2: Because I got I gotta say I think again. I
Speaker 2: think the relationship between Dan and Biebe has actually been
Speaker 2: done to the point where it's like actually becoming a
Speaker 2: very interesting plot point because BB is actually very impressed
Speaker 2: by the fact that Dan spent the time to make
Speaker 2: this meal, didn't get it from an Italian restaurant, And
Speaker 2: you can feel those seeds of friendship are real and
Speaker 2: and this is I feel like when we're really starting
Speaker 2: to see Dan also show what his real priority is,
Speaker 2: which is bbe because he could have he knew it
Speaker 2: was her, he could have sold her out, and instead
Speaker 2: he just has this dinner with her and he's like
Speaker 2: just fucking.
Speaker 3: Stop, like do it. And then you know, Bibi goes,
Speaker 3: well he killed my uncle and he's like, don't.
Speaker 4: Fucking gall on it.
Speaker 1: I didn't go And Danny's like, no, what Burder what Moday.
Speaker 4: The best guy around, he's the mayor.
Speaker 1: What Fisk lets Sheila see the gallow accident photos as well,
Speaker 1: and the message is very clear as Yeah. At Josie's bar,
Speaker 1: Angie Kim and the old cops come through. Matt and
Speaker 1: Karen are hiding his side, and Cherry is hiding out
Speaker 1: there as well, and they'll meet up and talk about stuff.
Speaker 1: Another weirdo Fisk tape comes out, the Mayor Fisk tape.
Speaker 1: It it's like a red pill blue pill type thing,
Speaker 1: and we see shots the task force beating up people,
Speaker 1: kidnapping people off the street. And then and then we
Speaker 1: see after the actual video comes out, who is doing
Speaker 1: and it is BB's BB in the mask self taping
Speaker 1: and self editing. This is a lot of work.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2: First of all, the BB Report has got nothing on
Speaker 2: the Fisk Report. I love her meme style editing. I
Speaker 2: love her like edgy YouTube vibes. I would also say, like,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that they didn't draw this out because it
Speaker 2: was pretty clear it was Bobe, and I think if
Speaker 2: they'd have drawn it out later into the season, they
Speaker 2: would have had to reveal it was Dan or somebody else.
Speaker 2: I'm interested that again, this is a one woman BIB show, Like,
Speaker 2: this woman needs to become a social media manager for
Speaker 2: somebody because she is.
Speaker 3: Making videos like nobody else she's making.
Speaker 1: It's hours of work.
Speaker 3: It's so much work.
Speaker 2: And also, like I said, I'm very into the Fisk tapes.
Speaker 2: I think that they're a really cool use of her skill.
Speaker 2: I think that they are different enough from the BB
Speaker 2: Report that is a plausible deniability until she started using
Speaker 2: leaked info. Though, I will say it did give me
Speaker 2: one of my favorite moments, which is when it says
Speaker 2: dustedly do good across in the dead of a logo
Speaker 2: and he's kind of putting his hand out but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's baby, be careful boebe.
Speaker 1: Vanessa's dreaming. She's in Central Park Dex's hunting her, and
Speaker 1: she knows it's because of all the truly terrible things
Speaker 1: that she has done to Decks over the years. She
Speaker 1: wakes up. Thiscomforts her, and Vanessa's like, can't we just
Speaker 1: like leave all this and go live somewhere peaceful?
Speaker 2: One day She's like, we're so rich, Like we have
Speaker 2: so much art, we have so much stolen money, Like
Speaker 2: why aren't we just living somewhere else?
Speaker 1: Matt and Karen are having like the mirror of that conversation.
Speaker 1: Karen tells Matt she has no idea how to get
Speaker 1: him into Red Hook. It's way too dangerous. The task
Speaker 1: Force is crawling all over the place. Matt says, like,
Speaker 1: why don't we leave the city. And Matt's like, you know,
Speaker 1: if if if left the city, I'd missed my record
Speaker 1: albums and I'd missed you know, the Indian spot we
Speaker 1: go to and all this stuff. Karen puts on one
Speaker 1: of his favorite records and they dance, and then Matt
Speaker 1: hears something. It is the task Force outside Josie's with
Speaker 1: loud speakers, and Matt takes out the task Force guys
Speaker 1: so Josie can get out of there. Matt and Karen
Speaker 1: or just go ham on the cops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is like a cathartics do not
Speaker 2: give a shit. They fight together. We see that Karen
Speaker 2: has really been training as on that gummy you know,
Speaker 2: and she's been learning. Meanwhile, they get separated after this
Speaker 2: in the midst of like the chaos, Matt doesn't know
Speaker 2: where Karen is.
Speaker 1: Where it she. He's like yelling for her. But there's
Speaker 1: a rendezvous point, like a backup place where they meet
Speaker 1: after stuff, and she's there. She's fine, and Matt is
Speaker 1: relieved and she's like, I have to show you something.
Speaker 1: And then we go down in a basement. We figure
Speaker 1: out that the renezvous point is frank Castle's old basement.
Speaker 2: The way that they are teasing Frankness is just so
Speaker 2: much fun, Like they dude, They just keep being like,
Speaker 2: you know, who would be a help? Oh oh, now
Speaker 2: we're in his special place, Like we know what the
Speaker 2: how did he did he pay rent?
Speaker 4: Like five years in advance?
Speaker 3: How did I to work this?
Speaker 4: I thought?
Speaker 3: Didn't we work out? He was like walking as a
Speaker 3: janitor for the building.
Speaker 2: At some point like I am gone, Like maybe he
Speaker 2: handed the least to Karen.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's crazy and nobody comes down here anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, so they gotta say, though, that's the same as
Speaker 2: Karen and Matt's place, Like how many just maybe this
Speaker 2: is the outcome of a New York where every apartment
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's loads of abandoned building.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems that Madden Karen's place seems like a
Speaker 1: squat like it's it's abandoned, abandoned building, but through another
Speaker 1: building you have to get to it, whereas Frank's basement
Speaker 1: is like in an operational building. I don't anyway, I
Speaker 1: love it. She's got a task force. Now Karen has
Speaker 1: captured a task force guy and is like, look what.
Speaker 1: It's a very like pulp fiction type, you know, reservoir
Speaker 1: dogs type moment where Matt is like, what you fucking.
Speaker 4: Do the guy?
Speaker 3: This guy?
Speaker 1: And that's the end of it. Let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and will welcome on to producer Eron to discussed
Speaker 1: this episode. Errah, Okay, welcome eron to the program. Another
Speaker 1: fantastic episode of the Born Again Daredevil program. The thing,
Speaker 1: here's what I love about it. I don't know about
Speaker 1: you too. It's it is really as ripped from the
Speaker 1: comics as you can get like all the like as
Speaker 1: gritty and ridiculous and fun as a comics plotline, like
Speaker 1: unashamedly pulled from the comics.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: I think that's actually going back to what we're talking
Speaker 2: about before the break, about the rent and the real
Speaker 2: estate and all that. The reason that we ask is
Speaker 2: because you have those moments. But for the most part,
Speaker 2: the suspension of this belief here is really high because
Speaker 2: they've created this kind of interior world within New York
Speaker 2: that you believe, sort of like John Wick in the Underworld,
Speaker 2: you know, we kind of believe that these people can
Speaker 2: just navigate New York in the dark, navigate parts of
Speaker 2: Hell's Kitchen, even though we know.
Speaker 3: That in real life is a very built up area.
Speaker 2: And you can't just be like secretly squatting in it
Speaker 2: as a wanted person who everyone in the world knows,
Speaker 2: but like you don't really mind because it does feel
Speaker 2: like a comic book. Aaron, what was your big takeaway
Speaker 2: from episode two?
Speaker 7: I mean, speaking of you know, pulling right from the comics,
Speaker 7: it's pulling right from real life too. And we've said
Speaker 7: that ye multiple times, so so many things there. I
Speaker 7: do want to hit on the real estate conversation. Yeah, Bibi,
Speaker 7: where you got that huge room that you're filming all
Speaker 7: these self tapes in? That is an enormous boiler room
Speaker 7: or something in the apartment. I don't know that that was.
Speaker 7: I don't know what I called out too.
Speaker 1: I will say she's she's clearly on a like a
Speaker 1: twenty four a wide lens twenty four to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: It will make a small room look bigger, so it
Speaker 1: might not be as big as it appears to be.
Speaker 1: I'll just say that, gods look like a boiler room. Again.
Speaker 2: I think I would love to know all these places
Speaker 2: they're hiding.
Speaker 1: She's probably in the basement of Gracie mansion doing this
Speaker 1: like that's kind of the implication.
Speaker 3: Right then you would do fucking sit.
Speaker 1: Right underneath their noses.
Speaker 7: That would be great. You talked about this a little bit,
Speaker 7: the mirroring storylines, and I'm not talking about Fisk throwing
Speaker 7: his trainer into the mirror. I'm talking about them doing
Speaker 7: the Matt and Karen in bed, Fisk and Vanessa in bed.
Speaker 7: You know, Fisk saying how many how many universes are
Speaker 7: there for me to conquer? And Matt and Karen having
Speaker 7: this deeply intimate conversation, both of them talking about why
Speaker 7: they want to stay in New York. And they also
Speaker 7: kind of had the same thing with you know, Bullseye.
Speaker 7: They had this They really introduced the blue light for him,
Speaker 7: both in the beginning at the church as well as
Speaker 7: when Vanessa wakes up and there's the blue flower next
Speaker 7: to her, and that whole whole scene is just like
Speaker 7: bathed in this blue that as opposed to Daredevil getting
Speaker 7: all these reds and stuff. So I thought that this
Speaker 7: was like the first time I felt like this show
Speaker 7: really had some kind of, you know, heavy cinematic feel
Speaker 7: to these kinds of bits, not the fights. They've always
Speaker 7: been so good at doing these action scenes, and this
Speaker 7: was the first time I felt like they were like,
Speaker 7: we got to focus on these interpersonal drama sections too
Speaker 7: to build you up to obviously these exciting action scenes.
Speaker 2: It definitely leans back into the more Netflix version, but
Speaker 2: it still brings more action and this kind of comic
Speaker 2: bookie fun that wasn't able to be had in those
Speaker 2: because they were meant to be grounded.
Speaker 3: But you, I agree, are in that cinemagic moment. Also,
Speaker 3: the whole.
Speaker 2: Blue Dream, I get that it's bullseye and everything, but
Speaker 2: I most feeling like I feel like something's going on
Speaker 2: with Vanessa that we don't quite get. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: can't tell if it's like she's gonna be sick or
Speaker 2: she's worried. I don't know what it is, but like
Speaker 2: I'm interested. It feels like she's on a different journey.
Speaker 2: And I would also say that in itself mirrors Karen,
Speaker 2: not because she is out of it or anything, but
Speaker 2: because she too is getting this hint of being on
Speaker 2: a different journey from Matt, Like Matt has his rules,
Speaker 2: Matt has his hope, and we get that ending where
Speaker 2: it really seems like Karen's like, eh, I'm a bit
Speaker 2: more like Frank now, like what does that mean to you?
Speaker 3: Like can we still there?
Speaker 1: It does feel as if Vanessa is on a path
Speaker 1: to sabotaging Wilson somehow has anymore like while Karen, you know,
Speaker 1: there's like a there's like a metaphor for like coalition
Speaker 1: politics with the resistance where it's like you got Matt
Speaker 1: who's like, we gotta do it the legal way, guys,
Speaker 1: there's a system, and we gotta believe in our system,
Speaker 1: even if it's broken and corrupt, yes, And then we
Speaker 1: have other people within this like big Tint vigilanti politics
Speaker 1: are like, I don't know, I think we should kill him.
Speaker 1: The tension and the tension between that is like very
Speaker 1: very real and very actually like super fun. It's fun
Speaker 1: to watch Karen struggle with her interior like bloodlust that
Speaker 1: she I don't know that you know, Frank Frank pilled her.
Speaker 1: Sheer pilled her. Say so she's not okay with Bullseye
Speaker 1: being involved, but then she's.
Speaker 4: Well because bulls I did kill their friends.
Speaker 7: Yes, but then she's like, oh man, I wish Frank
Speaker 7: were here to kill people instead. On the other hand,
Speaker 7: I was like kind of okay with bulls Eye killing them,
Speaker 7: but doesn't want Frank involved. And yeah, they they have
Speaker 7: this really interesting give and take when they're okay with
Speaker 7: pushing the line and crossing it and then they kind
Speaker 7: of fall back and I understand bulls I did kill Foggy,
Speaker 7: so that is a huge thing.
Speaker 3: But like Matt's kind of way, it's funny and I
Speaker 3: love this.
Speaker 2: This is the kind of meet and conversation and discourse
Speaker 2: starting that we haven't really had narratively in a show
Speaker 2: for a long time where it's like, well, what would
Speaker 2: you do? And it feels more real than ever because
Speaker 2: now you know, this is essentially a show that's saying, well, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't what would you do? Would you go
Speaker 2: back and kill baby Hitler? Or if Hitler's just fully alive,
Speaker 2: or if he's Wilson Fisk, Like Karen's just like at
Speaker 2: the point where she's like, well, if he's evil and
Speaker 2: he's ruining the station and we just get rid of him.
Speaker 3: But Matt just can't think that way. And it's quite a.
Speaker 2: Scary thing to hear somebody say in TV in this
Speaker 2: context of real life.
Speaker 3: But I think that's what the show is doing so.
Speaker 2: Brilliantly, and I'm just so excited for people to, you know,
Speaker 2: start having these conversations. Our discord was like, couldn't believe
Speaker 2: after the first episode just how much the show really
Speaker 2: feels as timely as and or which we just weren't
Speaker 2: expecting from a dead evil show.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I will say that it does.
Speaker 1: The danger of this framing is that it does potentially
Speaker 1: set up a situation where Matt is so dumb and
Speaker 1: naive that we can't take it anymore. That's because because
Speaker 1: if Matt, you know, it's like break breaking and entering
Speaker 1: assault the dead sailors on the ship who went down.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he caused that.
Speaker 3: But let you know that they wouldn't have sunk the ship.
Speaker 1: You got to take some responsibility for that. And so
Speaker 1: to to be like you gotta to uphold the system,
Speaker 1: we got to break the law. I'm not like saying
Speaker 1: no to that. I think it's I think it's the
Speaker 1: central tension of Daredevil, like as a figure, but like
Speaker 1: if Matt really fully believed in what he was saying,
Speaker 1: shouldn't he shouldn't he just go back to work at McDuffie,
Speaker 1: Like why why are you that's what you should be doing.
Speaker 1: Then go do that and let Dexon Karen kill all
Speaker 1: the task forts guys exactly, make a make a two
Speaker 1: sided team.
Speaker 3: We can do both. I mean, I also, this is such.
Speaker 2: Classic Matt because it's a lot. But the funniest shait
Speaker 2: about Matt is like he's always like, I don't kill,
Speaker 2: and then just teams up.
Speaker 3: With loads of people who kill. So like it's like
Speaker 3: he loves the bullseye.
Speaker 2: Just showed up and killed those guys because he was
Speaker 2: just gonna die and not kill them, and they're happily
Speaker 2: in Catholic heaven or hell, being like, I didn't kill.
Speaker 3: Those guys, but bulls. I was like, hey, I killed
Speaker 3: them for you.
Speaker 4: Well, how did you?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: What did you? I thought he was going to the
Speaker 1: church to kill Sister Maggie or to make her tell
Speaker 1: him where Matt is. But it seems but by the
Speaker 1: end of it, by the end of the episode, I'm like, waiter,
Speaker 1: it seems like they're doing a not the reverse heel
Speaker 1: turn with Dex, Like that's how it's setting it up
Speaker 1: so that we are going to be like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: the good guy in this one.
Speaker 2: I think that if we look at the history of
Speaker 2: the MCU Marvel, Netflix TV shows, all of the heroes
Speaker 2: within them, whether it was Jessica or Luke, even you know,
Speaker 2: Danny or whatever, they were always very flawed people, Like
Speaker 2: that was kind of the point, like Jessica's killed people,
Speaker 2: Jessica has like tons of guilt, Jessica was controlled by
Speaker 2: the Purple Man. Jessica killed Luke's wife, like, so, I
Speaker 2: do think there is a potential that taking a character
Speaker 2: like Dex who has a big fandom, who is so
Speaker 2: brilliantly played by the actor who I learned recently was
Speaker 2: a professional tennis player before and was never thought he
Speaker 2: was going to be an actor and kind of just
Speaker 2: ended up as an actor.
Speaker 3: He's at C two me too this weekend.
Speaker 2: Actually, and I think that it would make a lot
Speaker 2: of sense from what they're hinting that we see a
Speaker 2: Dex who is essentially on a redemption arc. Now that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's going to become the world's greatest guy
Speaker 2: who never kills anyone, but I do think that what
Speaker 2: is being hinted at here is that Dex has kind
Speaker 2: of realized that he was being manipulated by Fisk and Vanessa,
Speaker 2: which we knew because that was why he wanted to
Speaker 2: kill them at the end of last season. He does
Speaker 2: have guilt about killing Foggy. We saw that end of
Speaker 2: last season. So yeah, this is giving to me me, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, he.
Speaker 1: He's probably killed like two hundred people. It's like when
Speaker 1: you already attacked the bar and he like killed bystanders
Speaker 1: died in that attack.
Speaker 2: Remember when they threw him off the roof and we
Speaker 2: all thought he was definitely dead, but he was just
Speaker 2: chilling like, yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 1: A lot of guy, it's it's listen. I'm gonna fully
Speaker 1: buy in, especially because I'm sure he's gonna be killing
Speaker 1: more Task members task Force members from here on out.
Speaker 1: That said, let's not like loose sight of the fact. No,
Speaker 1: there's probably like thirty there's probably thirty people from the
Speaker 1: bar attack that are fucking deceased, dead dead dead.
Speaker 3: If we remember when Bullseye was fussed introduced there, I
Speaker 3: mean he.
Speaker 1: Was psychopath, like, yeah, he was a serial killer, serial killer.
Speaker 3: Now look he's a good boy now and.
Speaker 2: He's a good boy. But no, no, I love the
Speaker 2: hint because I agree with you. I definitely thought that
Speaker 2: she was good, that he was going there to kill her.
Speaker 2: But also I kind of like the unknowable nature of
Speaker 2: Dex right now, which is like, if he didn't see
Speaker 2: that priest then she had have been there, maybe he
Speaker 2: would have killed her, Like we don't know, but that
Speaker 2: interaction with the priest made him think, oh I can
Speaker 2: get absolution.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a different route for me, you know.
Speaker 2: I also want to say, guys, I got many people
Speaker 2: who are pointing this out on the internet. Dex did
Speaker 2: not waste his time by writing your welcome on the knife.
Speaker 2: He scratched it in so that Da Devil, who is blind,
Speaker 2: would be able to feel it.
Speaker 3: These are friends.
Speaker 2: Come on, guys, he's he's he's in a toy He's
Speaker 2: trying to be a toying relationship with him. He wants
Speaker 2: to be Dead Devil's new bestie, new joker.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but come on.
Speaker 2: He did not write them on the knife, he scratched
Speaker 2: them in. Come on, guys, Dead Evil could feel it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love I obviously very excited for more decks. I
Speaker 2: do think that the way they handle it is basically
Speaker 2: gonna have to be He's still crazy and a murderer,
Speaker 2: but he's murdering the right people. That's the only way
Speaker 2: it's gonna feel. Yes, believable. So Jason, like you said,
Speaker 2: I want to see him taking out the task Force. Also,
Speaker 2: we know who's in charge of the wider MCU right
Speaker 2: now with Valentino, with all these villains with the thunderbolts.
Speaker 2: So that is a place for heroes who have done
Speaker 2: horrific things like chopp someone's head off with a fucking
Speaker 2: captain in America shield on camera. You can still become
Speaker 2: a hero. So I think that is an interesting space
Speaker 2: that we're in when it comes to Dex as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, MCU has no shortage of villains or criminals turned
Speaker 7: heroes between Thunderbolts Guardians of the Galaxy, Like, we've got
Speaker 7: plenty of that. I mean, there's hints of Widow and
Speaker 7: Hawkeye doing who knows what.
Speaker 3: Well Widow is. I mean Hawky was a serial killer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he went to Ron in phase.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean I think that there's definitely room
Speaker 7: for it. But I think Dex will always be somewhat
Speaker 7: of a third party wild card. Like I don't think
Speaker 7: we're gonna get a scene of Dex and Karen side
Speaker 7: by side fighting, No, but like, and he might be
Speaker 7: somewhere in the fight I would love to see.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see that him and Karen showdown because
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to come into contact at some point
Speaker 2: and she is not gonna be happy about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about our death pool. Who is good
Speaker 1: at this point after season, after episode two, who do
Speaker 1: we think is going to make it and who do
Speaker 1: we think is not going to make it to the end?
Speaker 7: Erin So, just a reminder, last episode, Jason, you chose Karen,
Speaker 7: Vanessa and Bullseye is who you thought were most likely
Speaker 7: to die?
Speaker 1: Rosie?
Speaker 7: You had Karen, Daniel and swordsman Jack, and I had Cherry,
Speaker 7: Buck and Heather.
Speaker 2: Okay, Aaron, who are you? Are you switching out any
Speaker 2: are you keeping it the same? What do you feel like?
Speaker 7: I think that you know, Buck didn't really do too
Speaker 7: much in this episode other than like advise Fisk about
Speaker 7: trying to reveal Matt's identity, So I don't Buck's neutral
Speaker 7: like for me right now? Cherry though, like showing up
Speaker 7: and you start in a hospital room, you got a
Speaker 7: couple old cops protecting you from the task Force.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like full in on this.
Speaker 7: I think he's he's not gonna make it.
Speaker 3: I think they do don't have the security.
Speaker 1: You don't have a double heart attack in the previous episodes,
Speaker 1: so I think it's very tough for him.
Speaker 3: I agree. What about Head though, you think she's surviving
Speaker 3: and you think she's dying.
Speaker 7: You know, I think she's going to I think she's
Speaker 7: gonna have some big part to play. I think they're
Speaker 7: they're doing too much teasing of her and Matt and
Speaker 7: their history, and we're seeing how much Vigilantes have messed
Speaker 7: her up.
Speaker 1: I think I'm sticking with it. I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Heather's Hell vigil that was a super villain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, healer, make it makes sense. Muse was never just
Speaker 2: Muse was killing random people like yeah, painting with their
Speaker 2: bod like come on, s okay, So you're sticking with
Speaker 2: the Deadpool.
Speaker 7: Auron, Yeah, I'm sticking with him. Is not enough stuff
Speaker 7: to change anything? On Buck, I think, okay, sticking with
Speaker 7: those three.
Speaker 3: I'm taking Karen off my dead Pool. I think that
Speaker 3: she's coming through.
Speaker 2: I think that this Punisher Frank thing is gonna have
Speaker 2: to I think that's gonna have to stick to until
Speaker 2: we get to this Punisher special that we now know
Speaker 2: is gonna come out on May twelve. So I think
Speaker 2: Karen's still there. I think Daniel, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: Swordsmen take him off. I'm adding, Bbe, I think after
Speaker 2: this episode she's playing with fire.
Speaker 3: We don't know that she is gonna make it.
Speaker 2: I think that that, for me is the big after
Speaker 2: this one, Bibe, I don't want you to die, but
Speaker 2: you're gonna have all eyes on you, babe.
Speaker 3: So I don't think she's gonna last, do you.
Speaker 7: Have one more Daniel Bibe and.
Speaker 2: Oof because Karen's gone Daniel Baby Hmm, I don't think
Speaker 2: Swordsman is important enough. I'm gonna add Cherry to he
Speaker 2: has not been looking good. Let's go for a sake. Sorry, bro,
Speaker 2: but if he survivees.
Speaker 3: Good for him.
Speaker 2: And I refuse to put I will not put Christa
Speaker 2: McDuffie on that because I need her to survive this season, Jason.
Speaker 3: Last week it was was Karen, Vanessa Bullseye. Any changes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there are some either or situations here.
Speaker 1: I think it's either Karen or Vanessa. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be both. And I think it's either be
Speaker 1: B or Dan. I don't think it's gonna be Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Bullseye. I am going to I think
Speaker 1: Karen leaving Matt for Frank is too juicy a plotline
Speaker 1: to pass up, So I need to take her off,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go Vanessa Bullseye and either be Be
Speaker 1: your Dan. Yeah, yeah, either.
Speaker 4: I think it's either be Be or Dan.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: It's either be Be or Dan. I think one of
Speaker 1: them has gotta go.
Speaker 2: Which is such a shame because I actually really love
Speaker 2: that relationship.
Speaker 3: Is why I think it is gonna happen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to want to have some
Speaker 7: interaction that's not marred by duplicity and sneaky. I mean,
Speaker 7: in each other's back at some point. Just give him
Speaker 7: something good, because it's.
Speaker 1: Something Bebe is. I continue to listen, Bbe's fighting a
Speaker 1: good fight. I'm not sure she's doing it in the
Speaker 1: most ethical way or the smart way or the did
Speaker 1: clearly not the smartest way, because like you have to
Speaker 1: build in some firewalls between yourself and video that comes
Speaker 1: directly from the mayor's I'm saying, like, could you please,
Speaker 1: like at least get a hack involved, But like I
Speaker 1: know that there's someone who can, you know, ping the
Speaker 1: sk signal so it looks like it's coming from somewhere else,
Speaker 1: like Memphis doesn't know that much about technology, you know
Speaker 1: what I'll add, I do think that it's very possible
Speaker 1: that we lose Buck as well. It's because like what's
Speaker 1: going on with what's going with Buck? You keep wanting
Speaker 1: him to do more and he it's like we're setting
Speaker 1: him up for some big scene that never happens.
Speaker 2: I'm interested too, because he's kind of on a sim
Speaker 2: it feels like they're setting him up for a similar
Speaker 2: route as Bulls Eye in a way, even though I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think that's where it's going.
Speaker 2: But like you know this, he's like more thoughtful, he's
Speaker 2: more kind. Even when he does the terrible thing, he
Speaker 2: kind of has acknowledgement of it.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: It feels like he himself is having his own kind
Speaker 2: of crisis, but they need to speed it up.
Speaker 3: Will let us know what it is?
Speaker 1: I agree? Okay, Well we're going to continue following Dared
Speaker 1: douvel Board again season two on X ray Vision. Coming
Speaker 1: up Mall's Shadow Lord and of course more Dearedevil Board Again.
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Speaker 4: Bye bye.
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