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Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for episode two, season two

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Speaker 1: of Daredevil Born Again. If you weren't Hello, my name

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Speaker 1: is Jess and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: x Ray Vision of the podcast where we dive its

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Speaker 1: your favorite Jos movie kind of a pop cult company

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Speaker 1: by our podcast. We're already their episodes.

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Speaker 2: Week plus news on Saturdays today, though it's not news

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Speaker 2: unless you're talking about the bab Report because she will

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Speaker 2: be involved in Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What is she doing? Baby? What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: This is our episode two Dared Devil recap and conversation,

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Speaker 2: so we will be bringing in super produced Aaron after

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Speaker 2: we have recapped this action packed episode. And guys, just

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Speaker 2: so you know, today we are recapping episode two. Tune

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Speaker 2: in tomorrow for our recap of episode three when you

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Speaker 2: have also watched him. As we know, both came out

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Speaker 2: at the same time, but you both won an in

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Speaker 2: depth version of both, which is why we have two episodes.

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Speaker 1: We open right after the fight Cherry, who has suffered

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Speaker 1: at least one heart attack, possibly two.

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Speaker 3: How doing.

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Speaker 4: Not doing well? He's doing well.

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Speaker 1: Weel that to the ambulance. Dared Devil is watching from

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Speaker 1: the rooftops. You'd think by now the cops would not

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Speaker 1: to have a helicopter scanning the rooftops, but they don't know.

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Speaker 1: And Daredevil is watching the body bags of the definitely deceased.

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Speaker 2: They got the balls, I got him, it's not They

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Speaker 2: do not know who Matt Murdock is. I know it

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Speaker 2: seemed like at the end he may have been unmasked, but.

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Speaker 3: No, they're all dead. Benjamin got them.

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Speaker 1: Fist bump for football's eye. Good job. Dex goes to church.

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Speaker 1: He's looking for sister Maggie and you're thinking to kill

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Speaker 1: her to do what but look, thankfully she's in Rome

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Speaker 1: on sabbatical and Dex asks the priest there for absolution. Meanwhile, Fisk,

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Speaker 1: who has a boxing match coming up by.

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Speaker 2: The way, Like, did we miss this from season one?

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Speaker 2: I feel like or is this the first introduction? Please

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Speaker 2: tell me, guys, there's so much content, but I love this.

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Speaker 2: He's got like a celebrity style Jake Pool esque boxing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's going on, and he has to train for it

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Speaker 2: to tell the people he's the real mayor or something.

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Speaker 1: So he's he's working up for it, like you know,

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Speaker 1: time is money, So he's getting briefings on this recent

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Speaker 1: Daredevil task Force incident while he is training with his

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Speaker 1: guy and he gets the update it's Cherry's in the hospital.

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Speaker 1: We have four dead task Force members, and probably Bullseye

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Speaker 1: helped Daredevil. He's Fisk's boxing coaches like, hey, like, you

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Speaker 1: we got serious. I don't like this. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the way you're the dedication. You gotta show some dedication.

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Speaker 1: You're just like doing Mayor stuff. The whole deal is like,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna strap the Mayor stuff while you're here with me,

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Speaker 1: And so Fisk throws him across the gym through a mirror.

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Speaker 2: I'm this is really I know we knew this from

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Speaker 2: last season, but this matter is like beyond any help.

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Speaker 2: Like not that we thought that was gonna be a

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Speaker 2: redemption arc, but he's pasted even just like being able

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Speaker 2: to be Mayor. Like, you can't just be throwing people

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Speaker 3: Come on, my guy, who's gonna teach you? Now?

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna teach your boxing before this important boxing match

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Speaker 2: that you're doing.

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Speaker 3: For some reason.

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Speaker 1: Later on, Matt and Karen catch up and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Dex is toying with me to punish Fisk. Now,

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Speaker 1: Karen is very very eager to see the Kingpin's downfall

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Speaker 4: Kind of like, maybe this is good.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Matt is like, I gotta go look for the

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Speaker 1: first mate from the Northern Star, who is still out

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Speaker 1: there in the streets somewhere at the Agan Gardens Greek restaurant,

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Speaker 1: task Force arrests the owner, whose name we still do

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Speaker 1: not know, and I will say that I love it, Yes, please, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, they gotta be doing this because they want us

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Speaker 2: to think she's related to Electra, because otherwise they just.

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Speaker 4: Why are they keeping interesting?

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Speaker 1: That's a good that's I I'd not thought of that,

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Speaker 3: I feel like they want us to feel mysterious about huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I will also say like I'm completely and continuously

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Speaker 1: staggered by like how this show is not pulling any

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Speaker 1: real world. At the same time, they've done some very

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Speaker 1: smart things, such as all the illegal immigrants that are

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Speaker 3: It's like what they did with john Wick.

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Speaker 2: Right. The part of the reason the first John Wick

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Speaker 2: movies like that often would be like a white solo

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Speaker 2: you know, and they show black people or people of color,

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Speaker 2: and it becomes while you may enjoy the cathartic nature

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Speaker 3: John Wick moved that by.

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Speaker 2: Having it be a person of color as the righteous

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Speaker 3: And I feel like here they've done it.

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Speaker 1: Buck makes a suggestion, Boss, why don't you tell the

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Speaker 1: city that Matt murder because Daredevil and Fiscus like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we have this weird psycho Scenn.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't. You wouldn't get it. Buck, We have a thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like a very deep thing, and he saved my

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Speaker 1: life and that's what you gonna do.

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Speaker 5: I no, Buck, I can't do it. Not even Vanessa.

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Speaker 5: I don't even talk about that way.

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Fisk makes a statement to the city.

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Speaker 3: Actually incredibly good plan. This is a plan.

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Speaker 1: It's just like he it's he subverts what you would

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Speaker 1: think of him. Very canny, guys, Jesus, Matt, Matt Burdock

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Speaker 1: is alive, the hero, Matt Burdock is alive.

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Speaker 3: He risked his life save me.

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Speaker 5: But now he's being targeted by the villainous masked villain

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Speaker 5: Bullseye and other vigilanities. Help me find him and break

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Speaker 1: Very smart.

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Speaker 2: And then immediately Matt and Karen realized that that MCU

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Speaker 2: of him with his low hood and sunglasses like a fuck,

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Speaker 3: Get back in the house.

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Speaker 1: We get a new BB report, a man on the

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Speaker 1: Street report, and people really, really really think Dared Devil

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Speaker 1: did the shipwreck, which is not necessarily you know, there's

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Speaker 3: But he did not do this. Yes, was was he

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: It was a terrorist attack, yes, by Wilson Fisk. But

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Speaker 2: But I also am loving the way that they're using

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Speaker 1: Me, it's an important measure that Fisk is, Fisk does

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Speaker 2: No, But what I love is that the BB report

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Speaker 2: only shows people who support Fisk. Yes, you know, so

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Speaker 2: that's a really interesting way of using like a kind

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Speaker 1: just think it's notable, you know, like there's the man

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Speaker 1: mask Dan is you know. Sheilla's like, have you talked

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Speaker 1: Dan says, let's just ignore it. That's the better way

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Speaker 1: a leak in the Mayor's office. Someone is leaking internal

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Speaker 1: with them. Powell Officer Powell tells Fisk he's the taboo.

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Speaker 4: Now, I love it. I love the task Force.

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Speaker 1: Uh, the task Force comes to see Cherry basically to

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Speaker 1: She's luckily there are more cops now in New York

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Speaker 2: Because now they're basically acting like there's always been a

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Speaker 6: text in the group chat and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 6: episode two is really unhealthily just validating my love.

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Speaker 3: Of Decks because that in this situation we need to

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Speaker 1: So Powell goes to Cherry's room and Cherry's gone. Powell

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Speaker 1: Resistance working together. Question is like no, no, no way, but

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Speaker 1: Dan goes to Fisk's office. Fisk shows him pictures of

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote car crash that killed Commissioner Gallo. Rip

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Gallo, I know, like, oh yeah, this is how

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Speaker 1: We know what happened. It's clear that you know. Fisk

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Speaker 2: might not have happened. Now, I understand she was trying

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Very respectable.

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Speaker 2: But if you didn't do this, then the next thing

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Speaker 1: Well, the bodego owner pulls a shotgun and is like,

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Speaker 1: Then the task force shows up. They start fucking going

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Speaker 4: Much duns the kids yes, and a near riot.

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Speaker 1: that Fisk was going to. The Vanessa Vanessa comes. Vanessa

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Speaker 2: I know, dude, It's so funny because I know that

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Speaker 2: I just want to kill vigilantes, Like she's not ready

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Speaker 1: So Heather says, well, Matt really hates your husband, and

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Speaker 1: she's eager to get the vigilante trials rolling and outside

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Speaker 1: Decks is like watching this whole conversation in the mcdee office,

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Speaker 2: It's Angela, Oh, who, by the way, is more tiny

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Speaker 2: than I ever remembered.

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Speaker 1: Angela is like, they can't shoot her with the rest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's so she is fuck your shit out,

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Speaker 1: So she tells McDuffie that I need help. My aunt

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Speaker 1: like my uncle's white tiger suit and amulet.

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Speaker 3: His giant sick like the piece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, I want to see it. Meanwhile, Fisk, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, we see that the poster for Fisk's actual

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Speaker 1: boxing match, and it's called scrapping in the Kitchen too much.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you're gonna call it that, you have to

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Speaker 2: have it be Wilson fisk usus Matt my dog. I

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Speaker 2: feel like at some point that was gonna be the battle.

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Speaker 2: But obviously it's like hard to argue with the blind

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Speaker 2: lawyer bit. But yeah, I thought that was really funny

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Speaker 1: Dan has BB over, and it's clear he thought this

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Speaker 1: I thought we were working on the b Report. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've I don't know if you've

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Speaker 1: seen the BB Report, Dan, But that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: editing and filming for one person, like I does BB

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Speaker 1: have a crew like she's it's a crazy amount of

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Speaker 2: She's doing so much work free apartment like comes anape

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Speaker 2: and eye on her, keep tip tips on her like this,

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Speaker 2: you could be doing much better. Also, I love the

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Speaker 2: dance like it could be could be a working a

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Speaker 2: working dinner I made.

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Speaker 1: I made some cock events it to get the wine.

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Speaker 1: And uh, hey, are you seeing that the weird the

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Speaker 4: I don't know where the you know the videos are coming.

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Speaker 4: There's a leak in the armice.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm waiting about my computer.

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Speaker 1: And uh it was a you biby And you know,

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Speaker 2: Because I got I gotta say I think again. I

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Speaker 2: done to the point where it's like actually becoming a

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Speaker 2: and this is I feel like when we're really starting

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Speaker 2: to see Dan also show what his real priority is,

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Speaker 2: which is bbe because he could have he knew it

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Speaker 2: he just has this dinner with her and he's like

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Speaker 3: Stop, like do it. And then you know, Bibi goes,

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Speaker 3: well he killed my uncle and he's like, don't.

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Speaker 4: Fucking gall on it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go And Danny's like, no, what Burder what Moday.

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Speaker 4: The best guy around, he's the mayor.

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Speaker 1: What Fisk lets Sheila see the gallow accident photos as well,

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Speaker 1: and the message is very clear as Yeah. At Josie's bar,

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Speaker 1: Angie Kim and the old cops come through. Matt and

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Speaker 1: Karen are hiding his side, and Cherry is hiding out

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Speaker 1: there as well, and they'll meet up and talk about stuff.

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Speaker 1: Another weirdo Fisk tape comes out, the Mayor Fisk tape.

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Speaker 1: It it's like a red pill blue pill type thing,

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Speaker 1: and we see shots the task force beating up people,

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Speaker 1: and it is BB's BB in the mask self taping

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Speaker 1: and self editing. This is a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 2: First of all, the BB Report has got nothing on

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Speaker 2: the Fisk Report. I love her meme style editing. I

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Speaker 2: love her like edgy YouTube vibes. I would also say, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that they didn't draw this out because it

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Speaker 2: was pretty clear it was Bobe, and I think if

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Speaker 2: they'd have drawn it out later into the season, they

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Speaker 2: would have had to reveal it was Dan or somebody else.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested that again, this is a one woman BIB show, Like,

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Speaker 2: this woman needs to become a social media manager for

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Speaker 2: somebody because she is.

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Speaker 3: Making videos like nobody else she's making.

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Speaker 1: It's hours of work.

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Speaker 3: It's so much work.

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Speaker 2: And also, like I said, I'm very into the Fisk tapes.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're a really cool use of her skill.

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Speaker 2: I think that they are different enough from the BB

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Speaker 2: Report that is a plausible deniability until she started using

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Speaker 2: leaked info. Though, I will say it did give me

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite moments, which is when it says

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Speaker 2: and he's kind of putting his hand out but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's baby, be careful boebe.

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Speaker 1: Vanessa's dreaming. She's in Central Park Dex's hunting her, and

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Speaker 1: she knows it's because of all the truly terrible things

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Speaker 1: that she has done to Decks over the years. She

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Speaker 1: wakes up. Thiscomforts her, and Vanessa's like, can't we just

439
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: like leave all this and go live somewhere peaceful?

440
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 2: One day She's like, we're so rich, Like we have

441
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 2: so much art, we have so much stolen money, Like

442
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Speaker 2: why aren't we just living somewhere else?

443
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Speaker 1: Matt and Karen are having like the mirror of that conversation.

444
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Speaker 1: Karen tells Matt she has no idea how to get

445
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Speaker 1: him into Red Hook. It's way too dangerous. The task

446
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: Force is crawling all over the place. Matt says, like,

447
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Speaker 1: why don't we leave the city. And Matt's like, you know,

448
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: if if if left the city, I'd missed my record

449
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: albums and I'd missed you know, the Indian spot we

450
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: go to and all this stuff. Karen puts on one

451
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: of his favorite records and they dance, and then Matt

452
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: hears something. It is the task Force outside Josie's with

453
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: loud speakers, and Matt takes out the task Force guys

454
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Speaker 1: so Josie can get out of there. Matt and Karen

455
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Speaker 1: or just go ham on the cops.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is like a cathartics do not

457
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: give a shit. They fight together. We see that Karen

458
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 2: has really been training as on that gummy you know,

459
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: and she's been learning. Meanwhile, they get separated after this

460
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Speaker 2: in the midst of like the chaos, Matt doesn't know

461
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Speaker 2: where Karen is.

462
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: Where it she. He's like yelling for her. But there's

463
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Speaker 1: a rendezvous point, like a backup place where they meet

464
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Speaker 1: after stuff, and she's there. She's fine, and Matt is

465
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Speaker 1: relieved and she's like, I have to show you something.

466
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Speaker 1: And then we go down in a basement. We figure

467
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: out that the renezvous point is frank Castle's old basement.

468
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Speaker 2: The way that they are teasing Frankness is just so

469
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: much fun, Like they dude, They just keep being like,

470
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, who would be a help? Oh oh, now

471
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: we're in his special place, Like we know what the

472
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: how did he did he pay rent?

473
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Speaker 4: Like five years in advance?

474
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Speaker 3: How did I to work this?

475
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Speaker 4: I thought?

476
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Speaker 3: Didn't we work out? He was like walking as a

477
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Speaker 3: janitor for the building.

478
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Speaker 2: At some point like I am gone, Like maybe he

479
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Speaker 2: handed the least to Karen.

480
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's crazy and nobody comes down here anyway.

481
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Speaker 2: Well, so they gotta say, though, that's the same as

482
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: Karen and Matt's place, Like how many just maybe this

483
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: is the outcome of a New York where every apartment

484
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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars.

485
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's loads of abandoned building.

486
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Speaker 1: Well, it seems that Madden Karen's place seems like a

487
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Speaker 1: squat like it's it's abandoned, abandoned building, but through another

488
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: building you have to get to it, whereas Frank's basement

489
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Speaker 1: is like in an operational building. I don't anyway, I

490
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: love it. She's got a task force. Now Karen has

491
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: captured a task force guy and is like, look what.

492
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Speaker 1: It's a very like pulp fiction type, you know, reservoir

493
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Speaker 1: dogs type moment where Matt is like, what you fucking.

494
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Speaker 4: Do the guy?

495
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Speaker 3: This guy?

496
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Speaker 1: And that's the end of it. Let's take a quick

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Speaker 1: break and will welcome on to producer Eron to discussed

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Speaker 1: this episode. Errah, Okay, welcome eron to the program. Another

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Speaker 1: fantastic episode of the Born Again Daredevil program. The thing,

500
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Speaker 1: here's what I love about it. I don't know about

501
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: you too. It's it is really as ripped from the

502
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: comics as you can get like all the like as

503
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: gritty and ridiculous and fun as a comics plotline, like

504
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: unashamedly pulled from the comics.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

506
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Speaker 2: I think that's actually going back to what we're talking

507
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Speaker 2: about before the break, about the rent and the real

508
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: estate and all that. The reason that we ask is

509
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: because you have those moments. But for the most part,

510
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: the suspension of this belief here is really high because

511
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Speaker 2: they've created this kind of interior world within New York

512
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Speaker 2: that you believe, sort of like John Wick in the Underworld,

513
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, we kind of believe that these people can

514
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Speaker 2: just navigate New York in the dark, navigate parts of

515
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Speaker 2: Hell's Kitchen, even though we know.

516
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Speaker 3: That in real life is a very built up area.

517
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Speaker 2: And you can't just be like secretly squatting in it

518
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Speaker 2: as a wanted person who everyone in the world knows,

519
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: but like you don't really mind because it does feel

520
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Speaker 2: like a comic book. Aaron, what was your big takeaway

521
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Speaker 2: from episode two?

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Speaker 7: I mean, speaking of you know, pulling right from the comics,

523
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Speaker 7: it's pulling right from real life too. And we've said

524
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Speaker 7: that ye multiple times, so so many things there. I

525
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Speaker 7: do want to hit on the real estate conversation. Yeah, Bibi,

526
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Speaker 7: where you got that huge room that you're filming all

527
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 7: these self tapes in? That is an enormous boiler room

528
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Speaker 7: or something in the apartment. I don't know that that was.

529
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Speaker 7: I don't know what I called out too.

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Speaker 1: I will say she's she's clearly on a like a

531
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Speaker 1: twenty four a wide lens twenty four to twenty eight.

532
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Speaker 1: It will make a small room look bigger, so it

533
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Speaker 1: might not be as big as it appears to be.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say that, gods look like a boiler room. Again.

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Speaker 2: I think I would love to know all these places

536
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Speaker 2: they're hiding.

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Speaker 1: She's probably in the basement of Gracie mansion doing this

538
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: like that's kind of the implication.

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Speaker 3: Right then you would do fucking sit.

540
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Speaker 1: Right underneath their noses.

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Speaker 7: That would be great. You talked about this a little bit,

542
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 7: the mirroring storylines, and I'm not talking about Fisk throwing

543
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 7: his trainer into the mirror. I'm talking about them doing

544
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Speaker 7: the Matt and Karen in bed, Fisk and Vanessa in bed.

545
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Speaker 7: You know, Fisk saying how many how many universes are

546
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Speaker 7: there for me to conquer? And Matt and Karen having

547
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 7: this deeply intimate conversation, both of them talking about why

548
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 7: they want to stay in New York. And they also

549
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 7: kind of had the same thing with you know, Bullseye.

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Speaker 7: They had this They really introduced the blue light for him,

551
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Speaker 7: both in the beginning at the church as well as

552
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Speaker 7: when Vanessa wakes up and there's the blue flower next

553
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Speaker 7: to her, and that whole whole scene is just like

554
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 7: bathed in this blue that as opposed to Daredevil getting

555
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 7: all these reds and stuff. So I thought that this

556
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 7: was like the first time I felt like this show

557
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 7: really had some kind of, you know, heavy cinematic feel

558
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Speaker 7: to these kinds of bits, not the fights. They've always

559
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 7: been so good at doing these action scenes, and this

560
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 7: was the first time I felt like they were like,

561
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Speaker 7: we got to focus on these interpersonal drama sections too

562
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Speaker 7: to build you up to obviously these exciting action scenes.

563
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Speaker 2: It definitely leans back into the more Netflix version, but

564
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Speaker 2: it still brings more action and this kind of comic

565
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: bookie fun that wasn't able to be had in those

566
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Speaker 2: because they were meant to be grounded.

567
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Speaker 3: But you, I agree, are in that cinemagic moment. Also,

568
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Speaker 3: the whole.

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Speaker 2: Blue Dream, I get that it's bullseye and everything, but

570
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Speaker 2: I most feeling like I feel like something's going on

571
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: with Vanessa that we don't quite get. Yeah, And I

572
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: can't tell if it's like she's gonna be sick or

573
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Speaker 2: she's worried. I don't know what it is, but like

574
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Speaker 2: I'm interested. It feels like she's on a different journey.

575
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Speaker 2: And I would also say that in itself mirrors Karen,

576
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: not because she is out of it or anything, but

577
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: because she too is getting this hint of being on

578
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: a different journey from Matt, Like Matt has his rules,

579
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Speaker 2: Matt has his hope, and we get that ending where

580
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Speaker 2: it really seems like Karen's like, eh, I'm a bit

581
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: more like Frank now, like what does that mean to you?

582
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Speaker 3: Like can we still there?

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Speaker 1: It does feel as if Vanessa is on a path

584
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Speaker 1: to sabotaging Wilson somehow has anymore like while Karen, you know,

585
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: there's like a there's like a metaphor for like coalition

586
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: politics with the resistance where it's like you got Matt

587
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Speaker 1: who's like, we gotta do it the legal way, guys,

588
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: there's a system, and we gotta believe in our system,

589
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: even if it's broken and corrupt, yes, And then we

590
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Speaker 1: have other people within this like big Tint vigilanti politics

591
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: are like, I don't know, I think we should kill him.

592
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: The tension and the tension between that is like very

593
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Speaker 1: very real and very actually like super fun. It's fun

594
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Speaker 1: to watch Karen struggle with her interior like bloodlust that

595
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Speaker 1: she I don't know that you know, Frank Frank pilled her.

596
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Sheer pilled her. Say so she's not okay with Bullseye

597
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Speaker 1: being involved, but then she's.

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Speaker 4: Well because bulls I did kill their friends.

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Speaker 7: Yes, but then she's like, oh man, I wish Frank

600
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Speaker 7: were here to kill people instead. On the other hand,

601
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Speaker 7: I was like kind of okay with bulls Eye killing them,

602
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Speaker 7: but doesn't want Frank involved. And yeah, they they have

603
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 7: this really interesting give and take when they're okay with

604
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Speaker 7: pushing the line and crossing it and then they kind

605
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Speaker 7: of fall back and I understand bulls I did kill Foggy,

606
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Speaker 7: so that is a huge thing.

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Speaker 3: But like Matt's kind of way, it's funny and I

608
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Speaker 3: love this.

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of meet and conversation and discourse

610
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Speaker 2: starting that we haven't really had narratively in a show

611
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: for a long time where it's like, well, what would

612
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: you do? And it feels more real than ever because

613
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: now you know, this is essentially a show that's saying, well, hey,

614
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't what would you do? Would you go

615
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: back and kill baby Hitler? Or if Hitler's just fully alive,

616
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: or if he's Wilson Fisk, Like Karen's just like at

617
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: the point where she's like, well, if he's evil and

618
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: he's ruining the station and we just get rid of him.

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Speaker 3: But Matt just can't think that way. And it's quite a.

620
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Speaker 2: Scary thing to hear somebody say in TV in this

621
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Speaker 2: context of real life.

622
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Speaker 3: But I think that's what the show is doing so.

623
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Speaker 2: Brilliantly, and I'm just so excited for people to, you know,

624
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: start having these conversations. Our discord was like, couldn't believe

625
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: after the first episode just how much the show really

626
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: feels as timely as and or which we just weren't

627
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: expecting from a dead evil show.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. I will say that it does.

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Speaker 1: The danger of this framing is that it does potentially

630
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Speaker 1: set up a situation where Matt is so dumb and

631
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Speaker 1: naive that we can't take it anymore. That's because because

632
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: if Matt, you know, it's like break breaking and entering

633
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: assault the dead sailors on the ship who went down.

634
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he caused that.

635
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: But let you know that they wouldn't have sunk the ship.

636
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: You got to take some responsibility for that. And so

637
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: to to be like you gotta to uphold the system,

638
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: we got to break the law. I'm not like saying

639
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: no to that. I think it's I think it's the

640
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: central tension of Daredevil, like as a figure, but like

641
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: if Matt really fully believed in what he was saying,

642
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't he shouldn't he just go back to work at McDuffie,

643
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: Like why why are you that's what you should be doing.

644
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Then go do that and let Dexon Karen kill all

645
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: the task forts guys exactly, make a make a two

646
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: sided team.

647
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Speaker 3: We can do both. I mean, I also, this is such.

648
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Speaker 2: Classic Matt because it's a lot. But the funniest shait

649
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: about Matt is like he's always like, I don't kill,

650
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: and then just teams up.

651
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: With loads of people who kill. So like it's like

652
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: he loves the bullseye.

653
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: Just showed up and killed those guys because he was

654
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: just gonna die and not kill them, and they're happily

655
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: in Catholic heaven or hell, being like, I didn't kill.

656
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Those guys, but bulls. I was like, hey, I killed

657
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: them for you.

658
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: Well, how did you?

659
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: You know?

660
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: What did you? I thought he was going to the

661
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: church to kill Sister Maggie or to make her tell

662
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: him where Matt is. But it seems but by the

663
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: end of it, by the end of the episode, I'm like, waiter,

664
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: it seems like they're doing a not the reverse heel

665
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: turn with Dex, Like that's how it's setting it up

666
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: so that we are going to be like, oh, he's

667
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: the good guy in this one.

668
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I think that if we look at the history of

669
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: the MCU Marvel, Netflix TV shows, all of the heroes

670
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: within them, whether it was Jessica or Luke, even you know,

671
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: Danny or whatever, they were always very flawed people, Like

672
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: that was kind of the point, like Jessica's killed people,

673
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Jessica has like tons of guilt, Jessica was controlled by

674
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: the Purple Man. Jessica killed Luke's wife, like, so, I

675
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: do think there is a potential that taking a character

676
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: like Dex who has a big fandom, who is so

677
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: brilliantly played by the actor who I learned recently was

678
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: a professional tennis player before and was never thought he

679
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: was going to be an actor and kind of just

680
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: ended up as an actor.

681
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: He's at C two me too this weekend.

682
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: Actually, and I think that it would make a lot

683
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: of sense from what they're hinting that we see a

684
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Dex who is essentially on a redemption arc. Now that

685
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's going to become the world's greatest guy

686
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: who never kills anyone, but I do think that what

687
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: is being hinted at here is that Dex has kind

688
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: of realized that he was being manipulated by Fisk and Vanessa,

689
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: which we knew because that was why he wanted to

690
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: kill them at the end of last season. He does

691
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: have guilt about killing Foggy. We saw that end of

692
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: last season. So yeah, this is giving to me me, Like,

693
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, he.

694
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: He's probably killed like two hundred people. It's like when

695
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: you already attacked the bar and he like killed bystanders

696
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: died in that attack.

697
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: Remember when they threw him off the roof and we

698
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: all thought he was definitely dead, but he was just

699
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: chilling like, yeah, it was a lot.

700
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: A lot of guy, it's it's listen. I'm gonna fully

701
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: buy in, especially because I'm sure he's gonna be killing

702
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: more Task members task Force members from here on out.

703
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: That said, let's not like loose sight of the fact. No,

704
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: there's probably like thirty there's probably thirty people from the

705
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: bar attack that are fucking deceased, dead dead dead.

706
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: If we remember when Bullseye was fussed introduced there, I

707
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: mean he.

708
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Was psychopath, like, yeah, he was a serial killer, serial killer.

709
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: Now look he's a good boy now and.

710
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: He's a good boy. But no, no, I love the

711
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: hint because I agree with you. I definitely thought that

712
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: she was good, that he was going there to kill her.

713
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: But also I kind of like the unknowable nature of

714
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: Dex right now, which is like, if he didn't see

715
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: that priest then she had have been there, maybe he

716
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: would have killed her, Like we don't know, but that

717
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: interaction with the priest made him think, oh I can

718
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: get absolution.

719
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a different route for me, you know.

720
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: I also want to say, guys, I got many people

721
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: who are pointing this out on the internet. Dex did

722
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: not waste his time by writing your welcome on the knife.

723
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: He scratched it in so that Da Devil, who is blind,

724
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: would be able to feel it.

725
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: These are friends.

726
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: Come on, guys, he's he's he's in a toy He's

727
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: trying to be a toying relationship with him. He wants

728
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: to be Dead Devil's new bestie, new joker.

729
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but come on.

730
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: He did not write them on the knife, he scratched

731
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: them in. Come on, guys, Dead Evil could feel it. Yeah,

732
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: I love I obviously very excited for more decks. I

733
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: do think that the way they handle it is basically

734
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to be He's still crazy and a murderer,

735
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: but he's murdering the right people. That's the only way

736
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna feel. Yes, believable. So Jason, like you said,

737
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: I want to see him taking out the task Force. Also,

738
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: we know who's in charge of the wider MCU right

739
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: now with Valentino, with all these villains with the thunderbolts.

740
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: So that is a place for heroes who have done

741
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: horrific things like chopp someone's head off with a fucking

742
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: captain in America shield on camera. You can still become

743
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: a hero. So I think that is an interesting space

744
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: that we're in when it comes to Dex as well.

745
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, MCU has no shortage of villains or criminals turned

746
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 7: heroes between Thunderbolts Guardians of the Galaxy, Like, we've got

747
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 7: plenty of that. I mean, there's hints of Widow and

748
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: Hawkeye doing who knows what.

749
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: Well Widow is. I mean Hawky was a serial killer. Yeah, yeah,

750
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: he went to Ron in phase.

751
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean I think that there's definitely room

752
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 7: for it. But I think Dex will always be somewhat

753
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 7: of a third party wild card. Like I don't think

754
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 7: we're gonna get a scene of Dex and Karen side

755
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 7: by side fighting, No, but like, and he might be

756
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 7: somewhere in the fight I would love to see.

757
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see that him and Karen showdown because

758
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to come into contact at some point

759
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: and she is not gonna be happy about that.

760
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about our death pool. Who is good

761
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: at this point after season, after episode two, who do

762
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: we think is going to make it and who do

763
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: we think is not going to make it to the end?

764
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: Erin So, just a reminder, last episode, Jason, you chose Karen,

765
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 7: Vanessa and Bullseye is who you thought were most likely

766
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 7: to die?

767
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Rosie?

768
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 7: You had Karen, Daniel and swordsman Jack, and I had Cherry,

769
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 7: Buck and Heather.

770
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Aaron, who are you? Are you switching out any

771
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: are you keeping it the same? What do you feel like?

772
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 7: I think that you know, Buck didn't really do too

773
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 7: much in this episode other than like advise Fisk about

774
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 7: trying to reveal Matt's identity, So I don't Buck's neutral

775
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 7: like for me right now? Cherry though, like showing up

776
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 7: and you start in a hospital room, you got a

777
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 7: couple old cops protecting you from the task Force.

778
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like full in on this.

779
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 7: I think he's he's not gonna make it.

780
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: I think they do don't have the security.

781
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: You don't have a double heart attack in the previous episodes,

782
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: so I think it's very tough for him.

783
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: I agree. What about Head though, you think she's surviving

784
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: and you think she's dying.

785
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: You know, I think she's going to I think she's

786
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 7: gonna have some big part to play. I think they're

787
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 7: they're doing too much teasing of her and Matt and

788
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 7: their history, and we're seeing how much Vigilantes have messed

789
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 7: her up.

790
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: I think I'm sticking with it. I think, yeah, yeah,

791
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: I think Heather's Hell vigil that was a super villain.

792
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, healer, make it makes sense. Muse was never just

793
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: Muse was killing random people like yeah, painting with their

794
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: bod like come on, s okay, So you're sticking with

795
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: the Deadpool.

796
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 7: Auron, Yeah, I'm sticking with him. Is not enough stuff

797
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 7: to change anything? On Buck, I think, okay, sticking with

798
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 7: those three.

799
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm taking Karen off my dead Pool. I think that

800
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: she's coming through.

801
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: I think that this Punisher Frank thing is gonna have

802
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: to I think that's gonna have to stick to until

803
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: we get to this Punisher special that we now know

804
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: is gonna come out on May twelve. So I think

805
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: Karen's still there. I think Daniel, I don't know, but

806
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: Swordsmen take him off. I'm adding, Bbe, I think after

807
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: this episode she's playing with fire.

808
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: We don't know that she is gonna make it.

809
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: I think that that, for me is the big after

810
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: this one, Bibe, I don't want you to die, but

811
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna have all eyes on you, babe.

812
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: So I don't think she's gonna last, do you.

813
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 7: Have one more Daniel Bibe and.

814
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: Oof because Karen's gone Daniel Baby Hmm, I don't think

815
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Swordsman is important enough. I'm gonna add Cherry to he

816
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: has not been looking good. Let's go for a sake. Sorry, bro,

817
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: but if he survivees.

818
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: Good for him.

819
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: And I refuse to put I will not put Christa

820
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: McDuffie on that because I need her to survive this season, Jason.

821
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: Last week it was was Karen, Vanessa Bullseye. Any changes.

822
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there are some either or situations here.

823
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: I think it's either Karen or Vanessa. I don't think

824
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be both. And I think it's either be

825
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: B or Dan. I don't think it's gonna be Yeah.

826
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Bullseye. I am going to I think

827
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: Karen leaving Matt for Frank is too juicy a plotline

828
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: to pass up, So I need to take her off,

829
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go Vanessa Bullseye and either be Be

830
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: your Dan. Yeah, yeah, either.

831
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: I think it's either be Be or Dan.

832
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Ah.

833
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: It's either be Be or Dan. I think one of

834
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: them has gotta go.

835
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: Which is such a shame because I actually really love

836
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: that relationship.

837
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: Is why I think it is gonna happen.

838
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to want to have some

839
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 7: interaction that's not marred by duplicity and sneaky. I mean,

840
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 7: in each other's back at some point. Just give him

841
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: something good, because it's.

842
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: Something Bebe is. I continue to listen, Bbe's fighting a

843
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: good fight. I'm not sure she's doing it in the

844
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: most ethical way or the smart way or the did

845
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: clearly not the smartest way, because like you have to

846
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: build in some firewalls between yourself and video that comes

847
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: directly from the mayor's I'm saying, like, could you please,

848
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: like at least get a hack involved, But like I

849
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: know that there's someone who can, you know, ping the

850
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: sk signal so it looks like it's coming from somewhere else,

851
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: like Memphis doesn't know that much about technology, you know

852
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: what I'll add, I do think that it's very possible

853
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: that we lose Buck as well. It's because like what's

854
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: going on with what's going with Buck? You keep wanting

855
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: him to do more and he it's like we're setting

856
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: him up for some big scene that never happens.

857
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm interested too, because he's kind of on a sim

858
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: it feels like they're setting him up for a similar

859
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: route as Bulls Eye in a way, even though I

860
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think that's where it's going.

861
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: But like you know this, he's like more thoughtful, he's

862
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: more kind. Even when he does the terrible thing, he

863
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: kind of has acknowledgement of it.

864
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: Like I don't know.

865
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: It feels like he himself is having his own kind

866
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: of crisis, but they need to speed it up.

867
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: Will let us know what it is?

868
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I agree? Okay, Well we're going to continue following Dared

869
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: douvel Board again season two on X ray Vision. Coming

870
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: up Mall's Shadow Lord and of course more Dearedevil Board Again.

871
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: That's it for this episode, Aron, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepts Young and

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Speaker 1: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abu Safar.

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Speaker 2: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Faye wag.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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Speaker 2: Heidi our Discord moderator,