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Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli with me in studio. Good afternoon, Tony, what's up.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Pete Risco is in South Florida. CBS Sports senior writer,

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Speaker 3: and I do mean senior.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Pete.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go, there's the first shot of the day.

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Speaker 2: Here's the first shot.

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Speaker 1: That didn't be long, that didn't take a long, No,

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Speaker 1: didn't take a long at all.

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Speaker 2: Jean, How old?

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Speaker 4: How old are you now?

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Speaker 1: Pete?

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Speaker 4: Out of curiosity, I'm being serious on this one.

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Speaker 2: Sixty three, I'll say this.

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Speaker 3: You're a.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you're a young sixty three or

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Speaker 4: I'm just getting older. So sixty three seems like not

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Speaker 4: very old any longer. But let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 4: Would you have thought you felt that, you know, when

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Speaker 4: you were back when I was playing, you were what

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Speaker 4: your mid thirties go it? Did you think you'd feel

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Speaker 4: as good as you do now and being at sixty three,

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Speaker 4: because that felt like that felt like ancient back then.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, though, sixty three is different than

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Speaker 2: it like when our grandparents were sixty three, they were old. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you know, not anymore.

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Speaker 4: The sixties, sixties in the new thirties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Tony will be saying that until he has

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Speaker 2: the sixties and he's gonna be saying, well, the seventies

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Speaker 2: in the new.

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Speaker 4: Forties is that's my goal at least, Pete. That's why

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to take care of myself for any

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Speaker 4: other reason.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean, look, I feel great and uh,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I love doing what I'm doing. And

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Speaker 2: if you love doing what you're doing, it makes it

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Speaker 2: a lot easier to you know, to keep going and

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Speaker 2: keep churning it. And you know how this is. We

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Speaker 2: get into a routine. You do this, this, this, this,

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Speaker 2: this and this and next thing, you know, you're another

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Speaker 2: year older, right, I mean, think, well, how old are

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Speaker 2: you now, Tony fifty two?

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Speaker 4: Fifty two? No, I'm fifty two. Relaxer, Pete.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to add in, uh, add in

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Speaker 4: That's like, I think part part of my body's fifty two,

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Speaker 4: another part is seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Just get a couple of new parts put in. You're

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Speaker 2: like a young kid. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy. I hope part of me stays like as

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Speaker 4: a teenager. And that's my mental and my fun fund meter.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to go.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to always think about that. I'm sixty

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Speaker 2: three and I'm still like a seventeen year old idiot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to stay there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's that's what you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Problem, I don't need to grow I don't need

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Speaker 4: Doing what you love, I think I agree with you

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Speaker 4: helps you stay young. However, I think there's probably some

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Speaker 4: Jaguar fans that think what you love to do you're

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Speaker 4: not very good at. After picking the Jags go nine

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Speaker 4: and eight this year and the Texans go nine and eight,

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Speaker 4: and for the Texans to win the division, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is uh, that's a.

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Speaker 2: That's an early pick that I did. They told me

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Speaker 2: to do that on a Monday, and I did it

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Speaker 2: on Monday night and went through the games and picked

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Speaker 2: And it's an early pick. It might not be the

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Speaker 4: Well, we usually don't pick that. We usually don't call

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Speaker 4: before the opening weekend week, which is is that next week,

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Speaker 4: we'rell be next week, then next.

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Speaker 1: Week, but we might have to move that up.

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Speaker 4: Based on pete nine and eight, that's a far cry

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Speaker 4: last year you had them like thirteen and four, number

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Speaker 4: one seed.

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Speaker 2: But the weird thing is Tony. I actually think this

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Speaker 2: is a better team.

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Speaker 4: But you obviously you don't because you think they're only

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Speaker 2: I think the division is a lot tougher. You know,

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Speaker 2: we went into last year thinking they were going to

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Speaker 2: be lamps in that division.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we did, and now you look at it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a tough division. You got six games

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Speaker 2: that are going to be really tough games to win

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Speaker 2: home and away. So it's not the layups. It was

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Speaker 2: a year ago. That That's kind of why I did

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Speaker 2: it the way I did it. But I'm not done

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Speaker 2: making that product. That's not my official prediction. That was

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Speaker 4: That's that's on the internet. That's on x that's official.

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Speaker 1: Here is Pete trying to back up. Yes, unbelieve.

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Speaker 4: That's unlike Pete too. Usually Pete stand up, put out.

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Speaker 1: A stand up guy.

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Speaker 2: Then on Monday night, I probably will still stand close

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 4: Pete, did you put your let me ask you a

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Speaker 4: question when you did it on Monday night. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure why Monday night makes it any less credible, But

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Speaker 4: on Monday night, when you did that and you push

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Speaker 4: send to your editor or whoever, puts that up for

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Speaker 4: you. You signed your name on it. Now, if you're trying

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Speaker 4: to back off, just sit, be a man and own

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Speaker 4: it that you are backing out of what you signed

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Speaker 4: your name on.

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Speaker 2: I'm not backing out, But what happens if somebody gets

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Speaker 2: hurt in the next two weeks?

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's not so okay.

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Speaker 2: My official prediction on every team is made the day

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Speaker 2: of the Thursday night game. That's when we do so first.

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Speaker 4: So, but right now where everything sins just signing off

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Speaker 4: on nine and eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Texans going nine and eight as.

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Speaker 4: Well, and the Texans winning the division.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Most people have the Texans going twelve and five or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I at least had some rational thinking on that team.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to this again a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I've been opening salvo jaguarsion.

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Speaker 4: I have the Jags winning the division.

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Speaker 2: Of course you do, you're a pump on waiver.

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Speaker 4: No, I think I think they go eleven and six.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good year. That's a pretty good year.

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Speaker 2: Since since you boy, you must have done some work

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Speaker 2: over the weekend and fixed the interior and the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, we'll get to that offensive line

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Speaker 3: and all that coming up.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is.

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Speaker 3: A weird game to analyze coming out of it. You

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Speaker 3: can't there's all the backups play.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to say this without just being transparent. Honest,

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Speaker 4: what are you evaluating? You're evaluating how the back half

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Speaker 4: your roster is going to be. There's nothing else that

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Speaker 4: of what type of team this is gonna be. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we know what type of team if something God forbid

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Speaker 4: happens to Trevor Lawrence, Okay, I feel good.

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Speaker 1: We have a good backup.

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Speaker 4: Great, not a position you really want to ever find

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Speaker 4: out about how good that person is. We saw a

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Speaker 4: he's the best offensivelignment. I think that's no different because

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Speaker 4: he's the best pass blocker. I want to see him

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Speaker 4: get more physical in the run game. Still, but he's

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Speaker 4: a very good player. Okay, great. We kind of knew that,

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Speaker 4: didn't we before his eight or nine snaps on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: As we Cleveland played. He's a starter.

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Speaker 4: I think watching it live he looked better than he

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Speaker 4: did in practice because I thought in practice on Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: So I thought, okay, that was better. Outside of that,

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Speaker 4: would you like okay, Tank, I'll tell you that positive

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Speaker 4: thing that came out of that game for me that

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Speaker 4: can translate into the regular season was Tank Bigsby if

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Speaker 4: he plays like that, And I love what Doug impressed did.

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Speaker 4: They purposely threw him the ball because what was one

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Speaker 4: the passing game. Well, they purposely said, we're gonna build

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Speaker 4: some confidence, We're gonna get him going, and he I

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Speaker 4: thought he did a great job of the pass game.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a very good downhill runner. He runs

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Speaker 4: through tackles, he finishes. That was the positive, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I feel way better about our backfield after Saturday night,

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Speaker 4: knowing that you have Etn and Bigsby with probably Durnis

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Speaker 4: Johnson is your third. Because the rookie, I don't think

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Speaker 4: rookie on IR squad. No, not probus Keilan Robinson. I

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Speaker 4: think you put him on IR because he has the foot,

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Speaker 4: he's been in a boot, he's done nothing. How do

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Speaker 4: you make a judgment whether he can do it or not?

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Speaker 4: How are you gonna trust him in protection and everything else?

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Speaker 2: So I plot receiver, the slot receiver had a good

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Speaker 2: day the other night, Parker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we already knew that, Like, okay, we knew Parker.

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Speaker 2: We already know that they're saying coming out of that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just talking that game, Pete. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm glad, you know we won. It was

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Speaker 4: a fine showing. It was, but like it was a

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Speaker 4: bunch it was.

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Speaker 3: And then to your point on defense, they were only

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Speaker 3: what two defensive starters that played.

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Speaker 1: Chad Mumma was one of.

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Speaker 4: Those, but he didn't play the position he's gonna start

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Speaker 2: Right, And is he really a starter?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the strong sideline's the starter though, well, I

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Speaker 3: mean the time, you're right, Pete, and now you know it.

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Speaker 2: T almost up to seventy now tony and teams. But

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Speaker 2: Muma actually did some good things the other night, But

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Speaker 2: again he's playing against guys are going to be, you know,

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Speaker 2: taking IDs at the bar later on in another month

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Speaker 4: Why because of the one play Pete.

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Speaker 1: That's all I was reported.

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Speaker 4: And this isn't a knockings Calvin Ridley. I said it

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Speaker 4: Is he anywhere close to a dominant number one receiver?

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Speaker 4: Is he anywhere even close to what Jimmy Smith was

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Speaker 2: Well, and somebody compared him. Somebody I know very well

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Speaker 3: We'll keep it real as always. Who've got some offensive

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Speaker 5: The number one goal is to obviously, you know, keep

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Speaker 1: Week one, there were three of them. Last week there

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Speaker 2: Well, they need to work together, and they need to

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Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna play I mean everything I'm hearing at

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Speaker 2: Well that's good. They need that.

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Speaker 4: six days a week, full pads.

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Speaker 2: So how many times has this offensive line not enough?

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm all for playing a whole half exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you, play them. Yeah, let

446
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Speaker 2: him get some reps, you know, so you can know,

447
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, Morrison, the guards know when when they get

448
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Speaker 2: off the double the tackles, no one has time to

449
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Speaker 2: get off of that.

450
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just timing, timing, communication and how it just reps.

451
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Speaker 4: I was talking to Tom Moore, who's with Tampa eighty

452
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Speaker 4: three years old, still coaching star with the Steelers. Was

453
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Speaker 4: the quarterback coach for and coordinator for the Colts when

454
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Speaker 4: Peyton Manning, I mean Tom bores book, legendary coach. Him

455
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Speaker 4: and I were talking about this in the game before

456
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Speaker 4: the game against Tampa and and I was telling we

457
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Speaker 4: were talking about how much camp has changed, and everything's

458
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Speaker 4: changed since he's been in the league, which is a

459
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Speaker 4: lot fifty plus years. He's seen everything. And I've said

460
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Speaker 4: always that offensive line is a position of repetition that

461
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Speaker 4: you have to have reps to get better. I think

462
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Speaker 4: everything in life that way, But even the offensive line

463
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Speaker 4: is critical because what are your what you're asking guys

464
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Speaker 4: to do. One is not a natural thing you do

465
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Speaker 4: on a daily basis, Like, no one's going backwards. You know,

466
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Speaker 4: setting and the movements and everything to you. You're typically

467
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Speaker 4: blocking guys who are better athletes, some of the premier athletes,

468
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Speaker 4: and so to do that effectively, and then you have

469
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Speaker 4: to coordinate with across at least five guys, sometimes six

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Speaker 4: or seven with tight ends the entire scheme. So to

471
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Speaker 4: do that effectively, you can't train by yourself. To do that,

472
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Speaker 4: you need repetition by yourself. You have to rep your

473
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Speaker 4: personal technique. But then you need repetitions as a group

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Speaker 4: going through drills, game situations, and games to get you

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Speaker 4: ready for when it counts. Now, do I think we

476
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Speaker 4: need it as much as we used to get? No?

477
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Speaker 4: Do I think they get enough now?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I think there's a happy medium in there somewhere, and

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Speaker 4: I don't have the exact number, but the reality is

481
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Speaker 4: these guys get so few real reps. Like you get

482
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Speaker 4: seven on seven. You can get timing of the passing

483
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Speaker 4: game with no pads on a helmet.

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Speaker 1: And you can do all that and you can be productive.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that without pads on as an offensive

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Speaker 4: lineman because it's just not real.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be at.

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Speaker 4: The same velocity and violence and physicality and all those things,

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Speaker 4: and you're not gonna have the same leverage, or you're

490
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Speaker 4: not gonna have to have the same leverage, because you know,

491
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Speaker 4: you lose something when you're not finishing blocks, and you're

492
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Speaker 4: not gonna have that finishing mentality. You're not gonna have

493
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Speaker 4: the timing getting up to the next level. The only

494
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Speaker 4: way you do that is live. The only way you

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Speaker 4: do that is full speed. And this group, and not

496
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Speaker 4: just this group, but across the league have so few

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Speaker 4: opportunities to do that. I mean, you look at last

498
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Speaker 4: week against Tampa. JBI was in at all the practices,

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Speaker 4: but I believe Monday and Tuesday, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 4: we're more just helmets and shells.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 6: And then Wednesday, Wednesday when the Bucks showed up, was

503
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Speaker 6: full pads Thursday, which I still don't understand and I'm

504
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Speaker 6: not being critical, I literally don't understand what the purpose

505
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Speaker 6: of this is.

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Speaker 4: And then Thursday against the Bucks you're in helmets only

507
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Speaker 4: with spiders, which ends up being somewhere between a walkthrough

508
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Speaker 4: and full speed pace. I'm not sure what you get

509
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Speaker 4: out of that. I mean, you get mental reps and

510
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Speaker 4: assignment and so, and then you have a game which

511
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Speaker 4: none of the starters played it for the most part.

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Speaker 4: So how many real reps did that offensive line get

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Speaker 4: going full speed against a defense working on their craft?

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Speaker 1: Not very many.

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Speaker 4: Then you couple that with the fact that you have

516
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Speaker 4: Nixon bruises, Ezra Cleveland's missed significant time in camp, Anton

517
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Speaker 4: Harrison basically lost the whole Harrison lost a whole week

518
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Speaker 4: because of a concussion. So now two fifths of your

519
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Speaker 4: offensive line has not been together. And you then think

520
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Speaker 4: about last year, what was the what was the narrative

521
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Speaker 4: that we were told of why they didn't didn't play

522
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Speaker 4: as well as they should have, and why they brought

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Speaker 4: basically the same group back except for a center is

524
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Speaker 4: because they had confidence in their starting five, but they

525
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Speaker 4: never were together healthy game. Okay, let's let's let's believe

526
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Speaker 4: what they're saying. Okay, I'm in gotcha. Well, that means you.

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Speaker 1: Need reps those written you're not gonna You're not gonna.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get a half of them this week.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but you're not magically gonna show up

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Speaker 4: at the hard Rock Stadium down in Miami on September

532
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Speaker 4: whatever data it is, eight eighth, now it's later seven, uh,

533
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Speaker 4: maybe eighth, seventh or eighth eight, eight eighth, September eighth.

534
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Speaker 4: You're not all of a sudden gonna show up and switch,

535
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Speaker 4: you know, flip the switch and all five of us

536
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Speaker 4: are gonna be ready to go hitting in all cylinders.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 2: No, it does not. And and and the offensive lineman

539
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Speaker 2: nowadays have so many things working against them. To begin

540
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Speaker 2: with the fact that they, you know, the college game

541
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Speaker 2: has become what it is. It's harder to you know,

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Speaker 2: run block because they're not. Yeah, and then the fact

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Speaker 2: that you don't hit I mean, and get the reps

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Speaker 2: in training camp. I mean, how many days is that?

545
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Speaker 2: How many times have they had the pads on since

546
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Speaker 2: you got seriously, j but you've been every practice. How

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Speaker 2: many times they have the pads on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was the first week was the

549
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Speaker 3: ramp up week, so none of that. Then they had

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Speaker 3: about three in a row too a row. The second

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Speaker 3: week I'd probably say about eight times set and nine

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Speaker 3: ten times maybe, right, maybe that's maybe.

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Speaker 4: And then here's the other thing, and this is like,

554
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Speaker 4: this is the rules everyone wants to play with. According

555
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Speaker 4: to the CBA, every four days you have to give

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Speaker 4: a full day off.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're only allowed to be at the facility for

559
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Speaker 4: eleven hours in totality from the time you show up

560
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Speaker 4: to the time you're done. You're only on the laud

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Speaker 4: on the field I think two hours from the time

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Speaker 4: you walk out to the time you get off. As

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Speaker 4: far as practice, I mean, you can get out there

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Speaker 4: early and do your whatever actual practice, actual practice, and they.

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Speaker 1: Have certain timing on the walk through in the afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Right then you have But okay, that's men different. So

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Speaker 4: then and now you're only going to go on pads

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Speaker 4: a couple times a week, maybe three. So why do

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Speaker 4: you mean it's hard to develop? It's hard to get ready.

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not blaming the coaches rightly, that's what's bargain.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, that's why the offensive line play

572
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: is bad early in the year, and it's also why

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Speaker 2: the tackling is bad early in the year.

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Speaker 4: That's right, because you don't get and I and I

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Speaker 4: have no proof, and I'm probably gonna get killed for

576
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Speaker 4: what I'm about to say, but I believe it, so

577
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Speaker 4: I'm as well go with it, go for it. I

578
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Speaker 4: think you have more soft injuries now than you ever

579
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Speaker 4: had when I played. I have no data to back

580
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Speaker 4: it up, but that's the sense I get and the

581
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Speaker 4: reason I believe that is, and I've had conversation with

582
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Speaker 4: several other people across the lague who believe the same thing,

583
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Speaker 4: is because you don't train in a manner that prepares

584
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Speaker 4: you to go play sixty five snaps, full speed, full explosion,

585
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Speaker 4: and I don't think your body is fully ready. And

586
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Speaker 4: when that's the case, that's where you get those soft

587
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Speaker 4: tissue injuries.

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Speaker 2: And that is the other part that's my theory.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, I think you have. There's something

591
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Speaker 2: to your part of theory. But there's another part of

592
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Speaker 2: it as well, the fact that they train at those

593
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Speaker 2: high intensity places year round.

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Speaker 1: Now, maybe that's the true Your body.

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Speaker 2: Never you know, Okay, you can be in great shape,

596
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Speaker 2: but the body never responds and rests the way it's

597
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Speaker 2: supposed to rest. I mean, I get it, you have

598
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Speaker 2: to be in shape, but Tony, those those places are

599
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Speaker 2: intense workouts and sometimes you got to give your body

600
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Speaker 2: a little bit of time off, and I think that

601
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Speaker 2: contributes to it as well. I think there's but both

602
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Speaker 2: both theories are out there, and I agree with probably

603
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Speaker 2: both of them combined has has some impact on why

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Speaker 2: there's so many soft tissue injuries.

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Speaker 4: So the next I don't know what we have next

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Speaker 4: segment because I don't ever read anything JP sends out.

607
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: Of course, I want to hear from Pete because Pete's

608
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Speaker 4: made a couple of comments about this offensive line the interior.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's do that a little bit later.

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Speaker 4: I want to understand exactly what he's what he believes

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Speaker 4: about this group. That'll be our keeping it real, Okayle's

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Speaker 4: keep it. That'll be that'll be coming up in the

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Speaker 4: second hour, So love stay tuned for that. We've got

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Speaker 4: to get to some defensive talk. We haven't touched on

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Speaker 4: them a whole lot, and what else you want to

616
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Speaker 4: see from that group before? How about the starters?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll come back and dig into that a

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Speaker 1: little bit more.

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Speaker 7: He really preach each day like a game day, and

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Speaker 7: so with that, we're trying to align the just before

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Speaker 7: the presnap win the pre snap is what we talked

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Speaker 7: about a lot. And then it's also attacking aggressive, and

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Speaker 7: I think you're able to see that with our player,

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Speaker 7: how guys are attacking the ball, hit getting hard hits,

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Speaker 7: and I think it just allows us to play fast too,

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Speaker 7: and just being able to trust one another out there.

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Speaker 3: Chet Bloomer, Jaguars linebacker after the game against the Buccaneers

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Speaker 3: four tackles for him. Welcome back to Shaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 3: at the Miller Electric Center, or at least Tony Boselli

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Speaker 3: and I and Pete Prisk goes down in South Florida.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars beat the Falcons Friday night, preseason Week three.

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Speaker 3: Mer City has been stadium down Town Atlanta and the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars defense. The starters will go, according to Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 3: on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Of the ball, about a half.

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Speaker 3: So the question on defense is what else do you

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Speaker 3: want to see out of this group before the end

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Speaker 3: of the preseason.

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Speaker 2: Pete, Well, I want to see, you know, look, I

649
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Speaker 2: want to see the interior guys stop the run and

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Speaker 2: be good at that. You know, we always focus on

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Speaker 2: the edge guys, and Tony knows this as well as anybody,

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Speaker 2: but you do too. If you stop the run, your

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Speaker 2: pass rush is gonna be that much better. And if

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Speaker 2: you stop the run, they want to rush with four

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Speaker 2: guys as much as they can and play man and

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Speaker 2: man outside. If you can stop the run and put

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Speaker 2: him in third and long situations, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: heck of a pass rush. So I think that's one

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Speaker 2: of the most overlooked things that we've talked about. Not

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Speaker 2: as many people are talking about that because it's not

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Speaker 2: the sexy part of the game. But we've seen this

662
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Speaker 2: team been run on a lot at times over the

663
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Speaker 2: last couple of years, and I think that will impact

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Speaker 2: their pass rush in a big way. They've gotten bigger,

665
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Speaker 2: they've gotten more I think more strength upfront now that

666
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Speaker 2: they've had and I think that's gonna be important for them.

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Speaker 2: And you know, getting Armstead back at some point is

668
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Speaker 2: gonna be important for them in a big way.

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Speaker 4: Didn't Armstead just get activated?

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 3: He was out there doing some individual stuff today. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's not playing. It doesn't sound like

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Speaker 3: week I wouldn't either.

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Speaker 2: No, he's a week one. He's a week one guy.

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Speaker 1: So Pete, to your.

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Speaker 4: Point, I think all I think this is fair to

677
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Speaker 4: say all great defenses and really good defenses can do

678
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Speaker 4: two things. They can stop the run, and the really

679
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Speaker 4: good ones can do with seven in the box. But

680
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Speaker 4: they can stop the run whether you have seven or

681
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Speaker 4: eight in the box. And they can get pressure with

682
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Speaker 4: four so they can play coverage in the back halp.

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Speaker 4: If you can stop the run and pressure with four guys,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be okay. The question is can this group

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Speaker 4: do that?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 4: I'd have more confidence in that and be able to

688
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Speaker 4: get pressure with the four up front, assuming Eric Armstead

689
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Speaker 4: is healthy, because it mean I think you have three

690
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Speaker 4: high quality guys and Josh Allen, Eric Armstead and Trayvon

691
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Speaker 4: Walker rushing the passer. The question is is can they

692
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Speaker 4: stop the run? Because I think the big question is

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Speaker 4: on the interior that offensive of that defensive line. Excuse me,

694
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Speaker 4: So you got Devon Hamilton coming back after this very

695
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Speaker 4: serious scary injury last year. Hard to tell, but yeah,

696
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Speaker 4: I mean it looks more like himself. We'll see what

697
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Speaker 4: it's like.

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Speaker 2: When he wasn't anything like himself last year.

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Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He had a serious injury, right, He probably shouldn't come back.

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Speaker 4: It was scary.

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Speaker 1: Obviously.

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Speaker 4: There's questions about Roy Robinson Harris. He was he was

704
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Speaker 4: had some issue coming into the camp. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he's had a great camp. That's proven by the fact

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Speaker 4: that he played into the fourth quarter in Week one

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Speaker 4: of the preseason. And he was one of the few

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Speaker 4: veteran guys or guys who that you assumed would pay

709
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Speaker 4: major role as a starter or just like the starter.

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Speaker 4: He played again in week two, so they have questions

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Speaker 4: about him, I mean.

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Speaker 2: And by the way he played into the second quarter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He played the extent he played.

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Speaker 4: And then after that you have Lacey, unproven second year guy.

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Speaker 4: You have Mason Smith rookie, you have Jefferson rookie, and

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Speaker 4: then you get into guys like Ledbetter and Gostis and yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you just get me. Thank you, I

718
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Speaker 4: know you mean, yeah, And so you start looking at

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Speaker 4: where do you get the production on the You know,

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Speaker 4: is Eric Armstead a guy who wants to stop the

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Speaker 4: run after ten years and coming off an injury, why.

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Speaker 2: What wonder he good at it? At the end of

723
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Speaker 2: last year. I can tell you that was watching their

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Speaker 2: tape all the way through. He had problems with it, and.

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Speaker 1: Yep, is that.

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Speaker 4: And so you look at that, And so got a

727
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Speaker 4: guy playing mike linebacker for the first time, and Devin

728
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Speaker 4: Lloyd ye who in college was the online on the

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Speaker 4: line of Scrimmers' linebacker last year as will Now you're

730
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Speaker 4: moving to mike. So what's that look like? So, I mean,

731
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Speaker 4: I think there's questions. Now maybe you get a lot

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Speaker 4: of production out of these big body rookies. I think

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Speaker 4: I like what they did in the draft. They went

734
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Speaker 4: and got big guys who are big physical guys, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess and Smith, Jordan Jefferson. Those guys are not small,

736
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Speaker 1: not small.

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Speaker 4: They're powerful. So maybe they can give you that where

738
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Speaker 4: you're not counting on any pass rush from them, but

739
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Speaker 4: they can just be big, nasty guys who clog up

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Speaker 4: the middle and get you to passing situations.

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Speaker 3: Your conversation about Roy robertson Harris Doug Peterson was asked

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Speaker 3: about him specifically today.

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Speaker 1: Here's the head coach.

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Speaker 5: Roy's been doing a really good job. I think, I

745
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Speaker 5: think too. He missed a lot of springtime, you know,

746
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Speaker 5: with his injury, and so just again it takes some

747
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Speaker 5: time just learning the techniques and learning the details of

748
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Speaker 5: the defense. And but he's he's been doing a great job.

749
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Speaker 5: He's going to be, you know, an impact player for us.

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Speaker 5: And just continue to grow in the defense consistency not

751
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Speaker 5: only by Roy but but by everybody, and and you know,

752
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Speaker 5: continue to show that that you know, he's he's one

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Speaker 5: of the main stays you know on that into your line.

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Speaker 3: All right, there's the head coach earlier today about Roy

755
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Speaker 3: robertson Harris.

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Speaker 2: There something doesn't add up on the smell test there,

757
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Speaker 2: and and god it helped me. If I was a

758
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Speaker 2: beat guy but still covering that team on a daily basis,

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Speaker 2: I'd be waiting down in the parking lot and try

760
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Speaker 2: and find something because it doesn't there's no there's no

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Speaker 2: way a health issue is making him and play into

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of preseason game number one and into

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Speaker 2: the second quarter of preseason game number two. Don't you've

764
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Speaker 2: been around the league is a long long time. You

765
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Speaker 2: have to agree with me. There's something up.

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Speaker 4: There based on the optics, Pete, I agree one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent with you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I also, you know what Doug said makes sense. They

770
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Speaker 4: want to get in rets because he missed most of

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Speaker 4: the offseason. Want to make sure he's comfortable in the defense. Okay, okay, sure,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 1: What you're selling.

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Speaker 4: I loved, I love Doug. I'll i'll bite, I'll take

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Speaker 4: the take debate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna be me for a day. Has the

777
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Speaker 2: beat guy back in the day? What do you you're

778
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Speaker 2: not asking that question?

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Speaker 4: Come, I'm surprised it hasn't been a major story. None

780
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Speaker 4: of the beat guys are going after it now.

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Speaker 3: No, it should be something that was one of the

782
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Speaker 3: first times he's been asked about that.

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Speaker 4: That would have been if I was a beat guy,

784
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Speaker 4: which I have no experience. So this is pretty who

785
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Speaker 4: would have been questioned one or two or three after

786
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Speaker 4: Week one? Like why is Roy Robinson Harrison playing in

787
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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 2: Why is the guy with the redone deal with a

789
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Speaker 2: monster cabinet that you can't cut him playing in the

790
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. There's guy to be something at play there.

791
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Speaker 2: There has to be, and not to get him. Okay,

792
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Speaker 2: if he's injured. He didn't get his reps. If he

793
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Speaker 2: was injured, you might protect them more. They sure as hell,

794
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Speaker 2: I ain't Russian and Eric Armstead back to get his

795
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Speaker 2: reps in on the new defense, are they?

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Speaker 1: No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: There's not one thing about that that adds up, none

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Zero.

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Speaker 3: Hmm.

801
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Speaker 4: Okay, Pete makes a great point. I'm not sure what

802
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Speaker 4: he says he's with me on.

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Speaker 2: This when he just sits there and he goes, Okay, I.

804
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Speaker 1: Mean I got the head coach who I trust, and

805
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Speaker 1: I listened to what he says.

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Speaker 2: Hey, anybody gone to Roy and asked him, what the

807
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: hell do you think about playing into the fourth quarter

808
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Speaker 2: of a first preseason game as a veteran who just

809
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Speaker 2: got his contract redone. There's no way he's happy about that.

810
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Speaker 4: Well, it's not anybody, Pete, because if I were to

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Speaker 4: have a conversation with Roy about that, I would never

812
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Speaker 4: talk about it because that's not my job.

813
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Speaker 1: My job is to analyze the team.

814
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Speaker 4: But I don't know of anybody whose job it is

815
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Speaker 4: to ask those questions or our beat, the beat that

816
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: has asked Rory that question. Maybe they have and he

817
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: didn't want to answer it. I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: If they haven't, I can tell you that I don't

819
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: think he's been at the podium after practice. He put

820
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Speaker 3: a player there after each but don't you can request

821
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Speaker 3: one on the ones otherwise. And I don't know who

822
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Speaker 3: he has or has not talked to.

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Speaker 1: They have no open lock, they have no locker rooms

824
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: in this time of year, this time so weak one.

825
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Speaker 2: And by the way, and by the way, he was

826
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Speaker 2: blocked the other night too, and against those backups he

827
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: was blocked. It wasn't like he was making a major impact.

828
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's gotta be there's got to be concern

829
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Speaker 2: about him a but more than that, there's got to

830
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: be more to the story. Something happened, something's that play here.

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Speaker 4: Here's the reality, and you know this, they have no

832
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: real options because if you cut them, you're paying them

833
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: now they wanted to get rid of it. If they

834
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Speaker 4: wanted to get rid of them, they could, I mean

835
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Speaker 4: and just eat it to open a roster spot that

836
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they have the CAF room.

837
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Speaker 2: To do it.

838
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Speaker 1: But do they have the depth behind them?

839
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: But they have the depth and doesn't make any sense, yeah,

840
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Speaker 4: you know, and then the conversation you have with the

841
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Speaker 4: owner afterwards is like, why do we wait a second.

842
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Speaker 1: We's got a guy we've just got done given more

843
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Speaker 1: money to.

844
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Speaker 2: Well, that's why they can't. That's why they can't, and

845
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Speaker 2: they won't. So they're taking another It looks like they're

846
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Speaker 2: taking another way to get to them, which is playing

847
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Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter. And then I mean, okay, here's

848
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: the lineups for the second preseason game. Nobody's playing, but

849
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Speaker 2: here's the guy who just got a bunch of money

850
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Speaker 2: handed to him and he's playing. Well, we get because

851
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: he was hurt and he didn't, you know, did'n get

852
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: his reps. Well, Armstt hasn't had any reps either, he's

853
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Speaker 2: not playing.

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Speaker 1: No done that off, fair fair analysis.

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Speaker 3: Pete looking for the MVP of the truck game, Better

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Speaker 5: You get a chance to get your starters a lot

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Speaker 5: of reps in a controlled environment against another football team.

867
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Speaker 5: And I thought both teams really did a you know,

868
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 5: showed great sportsmanship during the week. Coach Bowles does a

869
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: great job obviously, you know, with his team and our guys.

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Speaker 5: I was proud of the way, you know, our guys

871
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: handled themselves. But to get our starters the number of

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00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 5: reps they did for two days in a controlled environment

873
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 5: really is good work, you know, because in a game

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00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 5: like tonight, they would only get maybe a quarter again

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00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 5: or a quarter and a half. And you know, sometimes

876
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: you don't get the scenarios of the situations you want,

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00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 5: so uh, doing a joint practice.

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Speaker 1: Like that, you can.

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Speaker 5: You can do that and really get some good work.

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Speaker 3: Head coach Duck Peterson after the game Saturday Nights, the

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Speaker 3: win over the Buccaneers and Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour

882
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Speaker 3: presented by Jet Home Loans. Final moments of the opening

883
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Speaker 3: hour of the show, JP Shadwick, Tony Bisselli, and Pete

884
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Speaker 3: Prisco recapping that win over the Bucks and a little

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Speaker 3: later we'll look ahead to the Jaguars and the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more offensive line talk coming up and

887
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Speaker 3: we keep it real an hour number two and fanatics

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Speaker 3: fan questions as well. Yes, Tony, hello, Well, as I

889
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Speaker 3: read through this show script today, you really dissected that

890
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Speaker 3: you were we missed.

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Speaker 4: We did not talk about one thing we should talk

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Speaker 4: about in the first hour.

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Speaker 1: What's that? That's Mac Jones?

894
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean fine performance for him and then to

895
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: come off the bench again and finish the game out

896
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Speaker 3: was good.

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00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: Two touchdown passes. This is it's a good thing, right, Pete.

898
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Speaker 2: Look, they have a backup quarterback now, that's what they

899
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Speaker 2: have because look, that's part of the reason they went

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Speaker 2: and got him, is because they weren't comfortable with CJ.

901
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Bether being the backup quarterback. I mean they could say

902
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: they were, they weren't. That's why they went and got

903
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Speaker 2: mac Jones. And mac Jones looked good. He looks comfortable.

904
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Speaker 2: He did. He looked like he looked like he was

905
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Speaker 2: a good quality NFL backup, and that's what he's going

906
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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 4: So you don't think mac Jones is a starter in

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Speaker 4: this league for the rest of his career.

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Speaker 2: I mean he might start somewhere at some point. Yeah,

910
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean maybe you Last week you had teams clamoring

911
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: to go get him after a year sitting on the

912
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Speaker 2: bench behind Trevor Lawrence. I don't understand that.

913
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. If I say clamoring,

914
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I think they'll be clamoring

915
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Speaker 4: for him the same way people were clamoring for Baker Mayfield.

916
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't. I don't think he's as good

917
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: as Baker Mayfield.

918
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Speaker 4: That's interesting. I don't know if I agree with you there.

919
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: Pete Baker Mayfield is pretty good Tony.

920
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Speaker 4: I think mac Jones is better than people think.

921
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: So, I mean you, he did some good things the

922
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: other night. There's no question about that. And he is

923
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: the second he's the back quarterback.

924
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't even think it was a

925
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Speaker 3: thing going in. I don't even said it was, and

926
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Speaker 3: I don't. I didn't buy that the first few practices

927
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: we saw him.

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Speaker 1: Throw it around.

929
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Speaker 4: I mean I think he I think he has an

930
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Speaker 4: above average arm, good arm.

931
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Speaker 2: Pretty good arm.

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Speaker 4: I think he has, you know, good instincts in like

933
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Speaker 4: football IQ seeing it. I think he's probably a below

934
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Speaker 4: average athlete running the ball.

935
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Speaker 1: He thinks he's better. He's better than he is running

936
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Speaker 1: probably well. He tried. He made some moves.

937
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Speaker 4: I give him credit. He juke some guys, So maybe

938
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: he's better than I think.

939
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Speaker 1: Here's the qua hell.

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Speaker 4: I think he and I think he's done a great

941
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Speaker 4: job in camp. I mean I talked about.

942
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Speaker 3: Last week how screwed up was he in New England

943
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Speaker 3: though he had he had he had three play callers

944
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Speaker 3: at Alabama. He had three different play callers. I think

945
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: in New England at least.

946
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Speaker 2: But yeah, and they brought in Matt Patricia, and it

947
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Speaker 2: was a bad It's a bad situation. It wasn't There's

948
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Speaker 2: no doubt it was a bad situation.

949
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Speaker 4: They had a they had a former defensive coordinator who

950
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Speaker 4: had never coached offensive line is their offensive line coach

951
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: and co coordinator. And then they had a special team's

952
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: kind of maybe at some point in his career wide

953
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: receiver coach judge as the other coordinator. Not clear who

954
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: was really calm plays doing what on a roster that

955
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Speaker 4: was probably pretty depleted in talent on the offense.

956
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Speaker 2: Was it wasn't a good roster. I mean, in fairness

957
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: to him, there were a lot of things working against.

958
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 4: Them, Like how about everything working against them? Tell me

959
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: what was working for him?

960
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: Like he did have Belichick? Okay, are going to be

961
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: the greatest coach I've ever has ever lived?

962
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Speaker 4: As this is like I'm a huge Belichick fan. I

963
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: think he's arguably the best situational football coach in the

964
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: history of the game of maximizing and taking advantage of

965
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: situations and matching up personnel, especially on the defensive side

966
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 4: of the ball. I mean, there's I don't it's hard

967
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: to argue who did what he did.

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00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: There comes a butt.

969
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 4: Well no, but he the butt is that he wasn't

970
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: just the head coach though he was also general manager,

971
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: overseer of all things. And I think I think it's

972
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: hard to defend some of the picks and some of

973
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: the moves that they made from a personal personnel standpoint.

974
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: And I do think.

975
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if you take a step back and look

976
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: at it, Pete, the genius of Belichick matched up with

977
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: the greatness of Brady covered a lot of those sins

978
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: for a long time.

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00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, there's no doubt. And by the way,

980
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: it's still the dynasty that's built on luck. They drafted

981
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: him a six round Brady, and drafted a defensive back

982
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: in the same round before him, So it's luck. I

983
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: got lucky with the greatest quarterback whoever played. They got lucky.

984
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: One quick thing about back Jones. What happens if he

985
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: sits the entire season, Tony, then then there's not gonna

986
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: be anybody clamoring for him because he's just Mac Jones,

987
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback.

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00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's a good point.

989
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: We'll discuss that a little bit more coming up in

990
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Speaker 3: the second hour. Also, fanatics, fan questions, one hour Down,

991
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: one hour ago. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet.

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00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: Home Loans, third and final preseason game. We usually let

993
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 5: the starters play a little bit more, you know, And

994
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 5: again it depends on the circumstance and the way the

995
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: game goes. But you'd love to get maybe two quarters,

996
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: you know, out of them, you know. But we do

997
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: take a look at Atlanta a little bit and we

998
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: simulate like game weeks schedule wise. Now camp is broke,

999
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: and that's the probably the only reason, you know, these

1000
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: weeks are important to get the guys, you know, no

1001
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: longer in the hotel. They're living home, transportation here, all

1002
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. It just it simulates and sort

1003
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 5: of feels like a game week.

1004
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier today, Welcome back second hour

1005
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Frisco

1006
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: of the Second Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.

1007
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: Before the game, after the game, and during the game.

1008
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli with me here in studio. Yes, Hall of Famer.

1009
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Speaker 4: Sote I was listening to Doug's comments about how they

1010
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: broke camp this week and it's a game week, which

1011
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 4: is traditional usually back when I played. The week three

1012
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: was kind of your simulate what a normal week you

1013
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: break camp and what's a normal week look like during

1014
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: the regular season, just to kind of get everyone ready

1015
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: for I wonder in today's NFL if i'd want to

1016
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: break camp, especially if you have really really young kids

1017
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: that don't sleep all night, because in camp, you're you're

1018
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 4: at the hotel by six thirty seven every day. Yeah,

1019
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: which is I got home on a Wednesday Thursday around

1020
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Speaker 4: six six fifteen. By the time you get out to

1021
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: the beach.

1022
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about the kids at home. You're talking

1023
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: about the kids on the football, about the kids at all.

1024
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, So like if you're if you're a

1025
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: guy married and you have super young kids at the

1026
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: house and you know, because it's chaos, like camp was

1027
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 4: probably pretty nice this year, you know, or this type

1028
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: of camp because you go when you're done, you go

1029
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 4: back to hotel, you have a meal made up, maybe

1030
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 4: get your massage, you know, get your body work, do

1031
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: all the different things. Quiet night of sleep, wake up,

1032
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: breakfast waiting for you, go to work. It's two minute

1033
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 4: drive compared to like when we broke camp.

1034
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, camp was Camp was easy.

1035
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: When we broke camp, it's like, oh golly, I don't

1036
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 4: have to be a meeting still ten thirty at night.

1037
00:49:59,760 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 5: No.

1038
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: If my wife heard that, she slap me right now.

1039
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: It's like, how dare you don't want to come spend

1040
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: time with your kids? No, I want to spend time

1041
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: with the kids. I love the kids. Pretty nice, getting sleep,

1042
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 4: quiet sleep.

1043
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: Say it again, Pete, I'm sorry.

1044
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: They're a regular season mode right now this week.

1045
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: That's what he just said.

1046
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: And it looked like room open. Then no, well, regular

1047
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: season the locker room's open, correct, because somebody's gotta go

1048
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: get Roy Robarts.

1049
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: I I mean that's kind of what it is. So

1050
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: but you know today they're working.

1051
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: On cards, you know.

1052
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1053
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: The big the big difference is is this is the

1054
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Speaker 4: first time that like you'll have a scout team. Now

1055
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Speaker 4: scout team's gonna work on Atlanta stuff. So you're gonna

1056
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: do install like like as an offensivelignment or the offense

1057
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 4: and get together however they present it. They'll present the

1058
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 4: game plan to present the personnel, you know, kind of

1059
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: what Atlanta wants to do. You break up position groups

1060
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: and then you go in and and you start installing.

1061
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: What's the run game, what's the past game protection wise?

1062
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: As far as game plan for this week, you know,

1063
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: here's the fronts and first and second down, here's what

1064
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: they're sub you know, front look like, here's their top

1065
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 4: you know, top blitzes first, you know, and you start

1066
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Speaker 4: installing that and this is what we're gonna do against it.

1067
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: And then when you get out to practice, instead of

1068
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Speaker 4: working against your defense, you know, ones against ones or

1069
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: ones against twos, however they did it. Now you're working

1070
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Speaker 4: ones against the scout team that's working off a card.

1071
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: And so you're getting a you're getting prepped and you're

1072
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Speaker 4: preparing for Atlanta in the fronts that you're gonna face.

1073
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: Where against Tampa and against Kansas City, you're not doing

1074
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: any real prep. You're just running your stuff regardless of

1075
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 4: what they're gonna do.

1076
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: So you just happen to have a lot of you

1077
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: just happen to have a lot of people around. Yeah,

1078
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: a lot more bodies that will be there the next week. Well,

1079
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 2: this is this is cutting. Are we cutting the team?

1080
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: Uh? If you want to, we can, but this is

1081
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: the cuts are easy. I think this is I mean.

1082
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Speaker 4: Because during the regular season, I don't know how they

1083
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Speaker 4: do it to now because they have so many practice

1084
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: squad guys. But back when we didn't have the big

1085
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 4: practice squad, the starters during each team session, so we

1086
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Speaker 4: had we'd have two team sessions of nine and seven

1087
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Speaker 4: and the blitz. It was like four sessions during regular

1088
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Speaker 4: season practice. So offensively, the ones would take ninety percent

1089
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 4: of those reps and the twos would get a couple.

1090
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 4: But then on scout team, Tom always made the starters

1091
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Speaker 4: go take one or two of the scout team reps too,

1092
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 4: which just drove me crazy. But that's what I mean.

1093
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 4: But now maybe it was just because you'd have enough

1094
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: offensive line, you might not have enough bodies to have

1095
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: you know, everyone, you know, because of injuries and everything else.

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00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes you you know, might maybe only had you know,

1097
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: two tackles you had, maybe had the swing and you

1098
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: had one other guy, but you wanted to get you know,

1099
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: for whatever reason. But my guess is nowadays, with the

1100
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 4: large practice squad, your scout team's your scout team, and

1101
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 4: your starters aren't doing any of those sixteen practice quads. Yeah,

1102
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 4: it's much different, which I love it. Make the pass

1103
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 4: squad as big as you want. That's more jobs for guys.

1104
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: As but Tony, I was thinking about this before we

1105
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: got something else to go, but before the break, I

1106
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: was thinking. After the break, I was thinking about this.

1107
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is an unrestricted free agent after the season.

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00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, what if he doesn't.

1109
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: Play at all? Which is the best case scenario for

1110
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: the Jaguars by the way, you can meet your quarterbacks

1111
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: playing the entire season. But what happens if he doesn't play?

1112
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: So that depends on two things. Pete, what's the quarterback

1113
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: si shiit? What's the quarterback situation from a veterans standpoint

1114
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 4: going into next year? Meaning guys get hurt, guys retire,

1115
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: We're what teams have gaps?

1116
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying from Jacksonville standpoint, you want to

1117
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: bring him, try and bring him back.

1118
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: Well, then I'm gonna get to that in a second.

1119
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: And so that's the first kind of thing. Second is

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Speaker 4: what are the what's the drafts? What quarterbacks are coming

1121
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 4: out in the draft? So how many guys do are

1122
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: draftable to be a starting caliber guy? Well, if there's

1123
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 4: let's make this up, let's say there's ten teams that

1124
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: need a quarterback in the NFL, there's only three draftable

1125
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: guys that you're gonna start right it'll start right away. Well, now,

1126
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 4: there's probably a bigger market for a guy like Mac

1127
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: Jones because he started and taking a team to the

1128
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 4: playoffs before. So at that point his market is going

1129
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: to be stronger, meaning there's there's gonna be more people

1130
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 4: offering you money, which then limits the Jaguars from getting

1131
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 4: him back as a backup because you're only going to

1132
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: pay so much for your backup.

1133
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: And it's.

1134
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, a guy like Mac Jones, i'd

1135
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 4: say five to seven.

1136
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: Yes, But okay, let's so you see what I'm saying.

1137
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: I get it. If there's a market, if there's somebody

1138
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: needs one and there's three teams out there, he's going

1139
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: to get a contract.

1140
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: That's yeah, he'll get a fifteen million dollar, two year,

1141
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: thirty million type of deal, prove it cut type of situation,

1142
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 4: or he'll have a chance to go start. And obviously,

1143
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: if you're Mac Jones.

1144
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna go take that absolutely. Now, if let's say there's.

1145
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: Only three teams or four teams that need a quarterback

1146
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: and it's a strong draft, now all of a sudden

1147
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: you're saying, okay, maybe the market's not quite as strong.

1148
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think there's gonna be that. A

1149
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: lot of teams looking for a quarterback.

1150
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: And Pete, I don't know. I haven't.

1151
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 4: I have honestly not thought about it.

1152
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: It's not hard. You can go right through it and

1153
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: figure it out. I mean, the Giants are going to

1154
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: be looking for a.

1155
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: Quarterback probably, Oh my goodness.

1156
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: Right, so there's one in the East. The rest of

1157
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: them in the East aren't looking for quarterbacks. AFC East

1158
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: they're not looking.

1159
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: Well, Jets could huh, Jets could be.

1160
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: If he retires, and but I don't think he's retiring.

1161
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what happens this year.

1162
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe the Jets probably not. He said he

1163
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: wants to play at least a couple of years.

1164
00:55:59,680 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: Okay.

1165
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: AFC South nobody, No NFC South.

1166
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: What about the NFC AFC West with the West.

1167
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: Okay, no Broncos. They just drafted one Raiders, the Raiders.

1168
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: The Raiders would be looking for one, but they just

1169
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: signed Minshew's.

1170
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: But oh, I don't think so, I do not think.

1171
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 5: No.

1172
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: I think mac Jones better.

1173
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: Come on, Pete, so you're I mean, you might be right.

1174
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't have to go through the whole.

1175
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be a lot of job ocause that's

1176
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 2: all I'm saying. And then there will be like three

1177
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: guys at the top of the draft. The kid from

1178
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: Jacksonville that's place for Georgia will be one of them. Uh,

1179
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Carson will be one of them. Who else? Then you

1180
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: got Sanders from Colorado, and there's in one or two

1181
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: guys will emerge, so you're gonna have three or four.

1182
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: He ain't getting a starting job next year. He ain't

1183
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: got a free agent. He's gonna be a backup in Jacksonville.

1184
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: That's what he is. It's okay.

1185
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: See I probably think a little bit highly more highly

1186
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 4: Mac Jones than you do, Pete, but your analysis is correct.

1187
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: If there's only there's no jobs, Yeah, that could be one,

1188
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 4: but I mean, heck, the Carolina Panthers might be looking

1189
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: for one.

1190
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with you on that one. But

1191
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't think they give up on him. If for

1192
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: two years, I know.

1193
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't might break in half before they end up

1194
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: on him.

1195
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, But but it's just a it's a supply demand

1196
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: thing for mac Jones because I let's hope he doesn't

1197
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: give very many reps. Now the flip side of that

1198
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: is God forbid and I don't want this to happen.

1199
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: But let's say Trevor missus an two games, two games, hamstring,

1200
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: something like that, nothing major, and mac Jones comes out

1201
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: and lights it up for two weeks. There will be

1202
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: a market for him, and probably a market this year,

1203
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: oh immediately. If it's surely enough, it could be a

1204
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: trade market, which I don't think you do unless it's

1205
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: tigh enough pick you do. I mean, and we know

1206
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 4: this firsthand. The reason Fred Taylor is here is because

1207
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: Robjohnson had one great preseason game, in one great regular

1208
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: season game that was it, and the Bills gave up

1209
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 4: the eighth overall pick to get him.

1210
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: Well, and also we I worked with Rick Spielman he

1211
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: Paddick one year when when his quarterback went down with

1212
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater went down, he gave up a first round

1213
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: pick for Sam Bradford. So so there can be there

1214
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: can be, There can be scenarios. Yeah, he plays if

1215
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: you don't want that to happen, but if something happened

1216
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 2: and he played well, then maybe maybe he gets another

1217
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: shot and gets a small contract from somebody to go

1218
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: be a starter.

1219
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: He plays good enough, it'll be a good sized contract.

1220
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Because Pete, you know this.

1221
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: This is how this league works.

1222
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield didn't get a good sized contract when he

1223
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 2: first went to the box.

1224
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 4: Can I finish real quick that he proved it. Here's

1225
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: my point, this is how the league works. So mac

1226
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: Jones was the first round first rounder, and he had

1227
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: a first round grade by most teams. Now, maybe not

1228
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: as high as the Patriots picked him. Okay, so most

1229
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 4: gms and scouts a first round grade on mac Jones

1230
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 4: somewhere in the first round.

1231
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: They don't forget that.

1232
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: So they believed he was a starting caliber quarterback when

1233
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: he came out of Alabama. Then he goes to his

1234
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: rookie year and takes the Patriots to the playoffs as

1235
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: the starting quarterback. So they have that body of work. Okay,

1236
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: this kid can win in the league. Has a couple

1237
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: bad years, they can justify why all the things we

1238
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: talked about in the last segment. And he comes out

1239
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: and he's the backup for one year to Trevor Lawrence.

1240
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: Trevor gets a hangnail and misses a game, and Mac,

1241
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 4: I'm saying that because I wanted to I don't want

1242
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: to even speak any injuries. He just says, you know,

1243
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 4: tears this something tears his big toe toenail off the

1244
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: mcknnf whatever, and mac Jones comes out and throws you know,

1245
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: three hundred yards and two touches downs and takes the

1246
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 4: Jaguars to a victory. Well, now, all of a sudden,

1247
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: if you're a GM that needs a quarterback, you can

1248
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: put together a pretty good store in your mind and

1249
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 4: sell it to everyone around you that we're getting Mac

1250
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: Jones on a bargain deal. And this is a former

1251
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: first rounder who won a playoff game and his and

1252
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: when he got into a stable situation in Jacksonville, performed

1253
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: at a high level. And Pete, you and I both

1254
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 4: know how these gms think they will be. They'll be going, Oh,

1255
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: I can make it work here with him, I can

1256
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: win with it.

1257
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play devil's advocate. On the other side, he

1258
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: was available to anybody who wanted him this year. And

1259
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: what did they get for him?

1260
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: Sixth rounder?

1261
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I tell you there wasn't a market. Craven

1262
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: the guy. Okay, well, okay, but he's still the same

1263
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: first round pick that they had the first.

1264
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 4: I don't agree. I don't disagree. But the last the

1265
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 4: last thing they saw of him was two years of

1266
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 4: an inefficient offense that couldn't get out of its own way,

1267
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: and he did not look good.

1268
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the other part of it. How many

1269
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that were first round picks actually resurrected their career

1270
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: and had success again somewhere. I mean, Jim Plunkett did it.

1271
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean, how long ago was that.

1272
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: Baker's done it. Baker Bayfield has done it.

1273
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: Baker has done it. I mean, it's possible, but I

1274
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: don't me personally. I think he's a backup quarterback, and

1275
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good backup quarterback. And you

1276
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: might be right, like he's a better backup. He'll be

1277
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 2: a better backup quarterback than Blaine Gabrett was. And Blaine

1278
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: Gabert made a lifetime of it.

1279
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's proven he's a better player. I

1280
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 4: mean he I mean Blaine never did what Mac Jones

1281
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: did in the regular season as a starter.

1282
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: No, but he but he also just looks like a

1283
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: better quarterback. But Blaine Gabbert. How many Blain Gabert was

1284
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: with the Bucks and then he was with the cheek.

1285
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean.

1286
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: Right, which is great. I love it for Blaine. Good

1287
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: for him.

1288
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, let's come let's come back. We're gonna keep

1289
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: it about the offensive line. We're gonna get Pete's solution

1290
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 3: to this.

1291
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is.

1292
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 4: Do you have a solution.

1293
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: No, I don't have a solution.

1294
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: We're gonna call you this solution man solving problems.

1295
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: I would have got out and got some guys, but

1296
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: they didn't, so I don't think there is a solution

1297
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:16,959
Speaker 2: on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Email Ticketing at Boldevents dot com or call nine for

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Speaker 3: six three three two thousand. It was the last time

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Speaker 3: you sat on the couch at Daily's Place?

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Speaker 4: Tell me, yeah, it's been a while. I've been to

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Speaker 4: concerts there, but not in the couch.

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Speaker 1: I thought you like owned one of them.

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Speaker 4: I've been invited several times, very and I'm very thankful

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Speaker 4: for that. In my opinion, though, of Daily's Place, I

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Speaker 4: don't think there's a bad seat in the house. I've

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Speaker 4: sat all over that place, from the lower level up

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Speaker 4: into the terrace sweet area. I've never I've been to

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Speaker 4: several concerts there, and I have enjoyed every one of them,

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Speaker 4: no matter where I sat. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 4: bad seat.

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Speaker 1: In the place.

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Speaker 2: What's the last one you went and saw?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: It was a country Uh?

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Speaker 1: Dang it.

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Speaker 4: It's a country artist and I cannot was it? Uh

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Speaker 4: Sam Hunt?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Was that last year he played? So yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I want to say him. I haven't been I mean

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Speaker 4: nine months, it's my guess, but I haven't been in

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Speaker 4: town very much.

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Speaker 1: You're a traveling man.

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Speaker 3: Time now for keeping it real, presented by nobody, it's available.

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Speaker 4: I would like to That's not true. It is presented

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Speaker 4: by Tony Bisselli and Pete Priscoe.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 4: Are you like to support our podcast that has not

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: yet been created, and you'd like to be a sponsor

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Speaker 4: to that podcast, Please call Pete prisco or Posts Business

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Speaker 4: or d M d M him at his ex account

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Speaker 4: and tell them all the money you want to pay

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Speaker 4: him and I uh, and we'll share all proceeds with

1345
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: this show.

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Speaker 1: Don't get paid.

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Speaker 3: What in the world is this?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we're gonna.

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01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: Share the proceeds with the show, which is your part

1350
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: of the show. So Pete, now we'll do guys are

1351
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: getting paid double. We'll double dip and you'll get I

1352
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 4: get a single dip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the government. It's unbelievable. How the hell

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: the hell does that work?

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Speaker 3: That's our sponsor, the non existent Welcome to America prisco Bisseli.

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Speaker 4: Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, all right, So let's get to it. Offensive line.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked a lot in the first hour

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Speaker 3: about the old line. It sounds like the starters will

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Speaker 3: get time together in the first half. They haven't all

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Speaker 3: five been on the field in a preseason game. What

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Speaker 3: is your greatest concern about this group as a whole.

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01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: Pete will start with you.

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Speaker 2: The middle of the offensive line. And Morris is a

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Speaker 2: good player, Don't get me wrong, I think signing him

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01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: makes sense. It's just he's still not an overpowering guy

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the line. He's smart, he's a tactician.

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Speaker 2: He finds a way to get it done. But you

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Speaker 2: know he's not going to be brute strength. I think

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is an athletic guard, not brute strength. I think

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Speaker 2: sheriff once upon a time had more power, not anymore,

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Speaker 2: not brute strength. So I think that's the major concern

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01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: with me, is the ability to get people and root

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: them out of there and run the football. I think

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Speaker 2: that that was a problem last year. We know part

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01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: of the major part of the problem was Luke Fortner,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't know if they're physical enough in

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: the middle of that line, and that to me is worrying.

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Speaker 2: Number one. You know people will talk about their tackles.

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Speaker 2: I worry more about the inside guys than I do

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Speaker 2: the tackles. They believe it, not Tony. There are people

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01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: talking about their tackles nationally that think that's a problem area.

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Speaker 1: I do not think it is, but they think they

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Speaker 1: think cam is a problem because.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, I mean, and you know you're playing a

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01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: second year guy who's going to be a really good player.

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Speaker 2: But again it's a big step forward. But me personally

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Speaker 2: power in the middle of the line to root people

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Speaker 2: out run the ball. Look, I'm a pass first guy.

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Speaker 2: I always have been. You throw the score, you run

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Speaker 2: to win. You have to be able to run the ball,

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Speaker 2: and you need to run the ball. And I question

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Speaker 2: whether that group in the middle of that line is

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Speaker 2: good enough to run it when they need to run it.

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Speaker 4: Tony, what Pizza is saying, I would probably agree with

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Speaker 4: most of it, and I think it comes down to

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Speaker 4: how you want to play football. Number one, what's the style.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big believer you have to be able to

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Speaker 4: run the ball when you need to run the ball

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Speaker 4: to close out a game, to get third and one

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Speaker 4: to push it. You got to be able to run

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Speaker 4: the ball in the tight red zone because the windows

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Speaker 4: are so tight. And I think then to stretch the

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Speaker 4: field ultimately is off play action pass, which is set

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Speaker 4: up a lot you know, off that run game. And

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Speaker 4: this is a team last year and I don't have

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Speaker 4: the official ending statistics.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you do.

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Speaker 4: JP or you have a sense of them. But I

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Speaker 4: believe if it was not the worst, it was at

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Speaker 4: the probably bottom quartile of teams who were effective of

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Speaker 4: converting third and short, fourth and short and punching in

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Speaker 4: the in the goal line on short yard of situations.

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Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I could. I would say that's probably

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Speaker 3: a safe that's you know guess and so yes, just

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Speaker 3: by the eyeball test, and there was.

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Speaker 4: They had trouble controlling the line of scrimmage, especially in

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Speaker 4: the second half of the year, and they did not

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Speaker 4: do much to address that part. They did they brought

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Speaker 4: in Mits Morris, where I think is an upgrade at center.

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Speaker 4: All the things that Pete said about him are accurate.

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Speaker 4: I think he described both Ezra Cleveland and Brandon Sheriff accurately.

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Speaker 4: And so my question is can they get the Can

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Speaker 4: they get third and one when they have to get

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Speaker 4: third and one? Can they get those those hard yardage

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Speaker 4: that heart, that hard yardage when everyone knows you're going

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Speaker 4: to run the ball, and can you move guys? Can

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Speaker 4: you displace that front in a four minute situation? Can

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Speaker 4: they run it when they have to to close out games?

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Speaker 4: That's my big question, And we'll wait and see. But

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Speaker 4: based on last year what we saw now they were

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Speaker 4: injured and so all those everything that we've heard from

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Speaker 4: you know, Trent and Doug around, you know, they never

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 4: had their five together and all the stuff.

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Speaker 2: That narrative.

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Speaker 4: That's accurate.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 4: So is keeping all those guys so one. You bet

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna keep them all healthy, which is hard to do.

1440
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Speaker 4: Very few teams make it with all the starting five

1441
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 4: off seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: And can't if you do.

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Speaker 4: If you can do that or close to it, are

1444
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 4: the five guys up front, the guys who can go

1445
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 4: get that short yardage when you have to have it,

1446
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: can run the ball when you need to close out

1447
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: the game, and control the line of scrimmage. That couple

1448
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 4: to the fact. So that's the run game. I don't

1449
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 4: have the statistics, but you know, I believe that Trevor

1450
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 4: had Trevor got hit a lot, let's put that way.

1451
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: Last year.

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: Now, some of it is on him around, Yeah, someone's

1453
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: on him.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 4: It's not all an offensive line, but you gotta hold

1456
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 4: up protection. Doug talked about that, and so this offensive

1457
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 4: line has to play better. They got to perform as

1458
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 4: a unit better than they did last year, and I

1459
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 4: think the interiors questions I have, you know, I think

1460
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Speaker 4: you have two tackles that are.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying great. I think Anton Harrison has really especially

1463
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 4: in the past game. His feet are so good and

1464
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 4: he plays with such good.

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Speaker 2: You know, and the run game. He wasn't great in

1466
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: run game last and.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that. But he's very athletic. You can

1468
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 4: move and you can pull me and do a lot

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01:10:54,760 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 4: of He's gonna be so I it's an unknown. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if I was looking at the offense in its entirety

1471
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 4: and you asked me what position group are you most

1472
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 4: concerned about, it would be the offensive line. If you

1473
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 4: had asked me at the end of last year what

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 4: the group I was most concerned about, I would have

1475
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 4: said the offensive line. And I wonder if they did

1476
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 4: enough in the off season to address that.

1477
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah don't. I don't know if they have. But here's

1478
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: the other thing. You get a physical back in Bigsby,

1479
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: you think, okay, well, maybe he'll be able to solve

1480
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: the short yarded situation and all that stuff. If you

1481
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: can't block him, I don't care how physical your back is.

1482
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 2: He ain't running it and not running it. So you

1483
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: got to be able to get that somehow, some way.

1484
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: You got to be able to get a crack of

1485
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 2: a crease on those short yarded situations, get people out

1486
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: of there, and I don't know if they can.

1487
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 4: But the one thing I'll disagree slightly with you, Pete

1488
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 4: on short yardist situations. Yes, it starts up front. You're

1489
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 4: right there. But a good back who has good vision

1490
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: downhill knows how to turn his shoulders and how to

1491
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 4: find that yard. That's a talent. And I was really

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 4: impressed watching Tank on Saturday Night. Yeah, like, I think

1493
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 4: he does a good job of getting downhill playing with

1494
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 4: pad level. I don't think that's Travis Etn's specialty. He's

1495
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: a more of a space passing game, you know, dynamic,

1496
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 4: But I don't think he plays with the pad level

1497
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 4: or the power that Tank does.

1498
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: And so a good back.

1499
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: In that situation can really help you and make you

1500
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 4: look better as an offensive line just because of their

1501
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 4: ability to see it, hit it quickly, get pad level low,

1502
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 4: make that little turn just to slither in there to

1503
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 4: get that extra half yard. That can be the difference

1504
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: between moving the chains and being off the field.

1505
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby to you guys point sixty five rushing yards

1506
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: in this preseason, sixty two of those after contact.

1507
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very I mean that I think that was

1508
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 4: just on Saturday night. I don't think that's all preseason.

1509
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: I thought that was last night.

1510
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: You had thirty seven rushing yards. Okay, yeah, I was

1511
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: very impressed.

1512
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: But that's all well and good. But even one of

1513
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: the most physical runners of all time, Derrick Henry, when

1514
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: you guys know, if there was penetration in the middle

1515
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: of the line, it was over, get his feet bounce,

1516
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: it was done.

1517
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: Yep.

1518
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 2: So you got to get pushed. You have to get pushed.

1519
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: So it can't it can't cover up.

1520
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 4: It can't cover up an inept offensive line.

1521
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 2: Pete. I'm not saying, but you know how they run

1522
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: the ball in the passes where they pin and pull

1523
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: and they get all those guys moving. It is that

1524
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: all they can do. You think, with the way they're

1525
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: constructed right.

1526
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 4: Now, that's all they can That's all they could do

1527
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 4: last year. I'm hoping not there. You know, they made

1528
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 4: it a point of emphasis this offseason all you know,

1529
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 4: during the OTAs during training camp, getting guys in three

1530
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 4: point stances coming off the ball better. So I like

1531
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 4: that and hopefully that will help them, especially in those

1532
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 4: situations where you got to go get a.

1533
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 3: R But Jah, you don't know that until you play.

1534
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you can do that all off season until

1535
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 3: you're blue.

1536
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: In the face.

1537
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: But JP, that goes back to in the first hour

1538
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 4: when we talked about you gotta get reps, you gotta

1539
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 4: go do it, you gotta go practice it, you gotta work,

1540
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 4: and like you can do it against a dummy all day,

1541
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 4: playing with low pad level does not happen just because

1542
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 4: you tell yourself to play low pad level. You have

1543
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 4: to work in that range of motion and you have

1544
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 4: to do it. Like I'll say this as a tall

1545
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 4: guy where pad level could be an issue. For me

1546
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 4: being six seven, my pad level was wildly different from

1547
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 4: the first two weeks of camp by the time we

1548
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 4: went to opening day, because you, yeah, because you repped it,

1549
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 4: and you're just repping it, repping it. Repreant that with

1550
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 4: Mike Maser in my ear yelling at me to get down,

1551
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 4: get down, get down, lower, lower leverage, leverage, leverage, and

1552
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: you're working and you get tired of getting stood up

1553
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 4: in the hole and you're doing nine on set and

1554
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 4: guys are coming downhill like it forces you to go

1555
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 4: figure it out and play better leverage, better pad level

1556
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 4: if you want to be effective. And that goes back

1557
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 4: to what we said in the first hour. It's about repetition.

1558
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 4: It does, it just doesn't happen. It's not natural to

1559
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 4: operate as a big tall man, which all these guys are,

1560
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 4: with pad level at a in a range that gives

1561
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 4: you the leverage you need to move people.

1562
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: And by the way, I never had any problem with

1563
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: my pad level.

1564
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 4: No, you have pad level, Pete, you have outstanding pad level.

1565
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 4: Right now, because we're sitting here talking on.

1566
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: The radio, it's unbelievable. Low low, You're.

1567
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: Very low, very low, back in a moment that was

1568
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 3: keeping it real presented by nobody except Tony and Pete.

1569
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 3: We'll reach out to reach out to Pete on x

1570
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: is it at Pete Prisco CBS, at Prisco's CBS, at Prisco.

1571
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 4: CBS, Just D M M and just tell them what

1572
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 4: you tell them, what you you're gonna sponsor.

1573
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: Pete loves the DMS.

1574
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh, he loved them.

1575
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 4: And there's only one thing Pete likes, Warren DMS. That's

1576
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 4: money that goes to him but that.

1577
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: Expan questions when we come back Jaguars Happy Hour presented

1578
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 3: by mister Chubby's Wings.

1579
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 8: We got to put more stress on him, you know.

1580
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 8: That was the thing that we talked about. We can't

1581
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 8: give him a rookie season. We got to get him

1582
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 8: ready to play now. And we kept them at two

1583
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 8: and a half weeks long, and and we've kept them

1584
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 8: previous two rookie classes, so they got a shorter break.

1585
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 8: We've demanded more of them both mentally and physically, and

1586
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 8: we've put him in situations in the game that we

1587
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 8: weren't putting them in the previous two years earlier in

1588
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 8: the game when it matters an accounts. So you know,

1589
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 8: I think it's been a very successful transition for us.

1590
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: That's Trent Balkey during the game broadcast on television Saturday

1591
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 3: Night about the rookie class, onboarding process and some changes

1592
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: this year. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, Second Hour presented

1593
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: by mister Chubby's Wings, who brought dinner for our production

1594
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 3: crew tonight, some Chubby style wings.

1595
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: There was a chicken case of dia out there.

1596
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 4: You ate the whole thing.

1597
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 3: Nope, I had one little sliver a second ago and then.

1598
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: You've never had a small sliver of anything, and then

1599
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: the pretzel bites. It looked and you had all that.

1600
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: I don't have time too much.

1601
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: Tony didn't have any of it.

1602
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: No, no, he has not.

1603
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 4: I haven't been. I' haven't been back there yet. I

1604
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 4: came right for the show. I'm a professional. I don't

1605
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 4: eat on the job.

1606
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: What would you eat if you went back there? Some wings?

1607
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like their wings. They put they they give

1608
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 4: us wings during halftime. Nice, they're outstanding. They make they

1609
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,919
Speaker 4: have great wings, great seasoning.

1610
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 1: They have the chubby styles.

1611
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 4: Chubby style. They're really a secret. It's a secret.

1612
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a secret. Where's where's that out by

1613
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: the beach.

1614
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 4: There's one in point of Beach, I know that. I

1615
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 4: think there's one down ours Park, I believe, yes, not sure.

1616
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 4: Fleming Island, close Fleming Island. Yeah, the one is right

1617
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 4: in point of Mader near me. I know that because

1618
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 4: we did a show last year. Yeah, the popular spot.

1619
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: It is time now for the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars

1620
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: fans gear up at fanatics dot com with all the

1621
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: latest Jag styles. Shop now and get today's special offer

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Speaker 3: at fanatics dot com. Officially licensed everything. We put the

1623
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 3: cat signal out on X. Here's the best we come

1624
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,879
Speaker 3: up with today. At Samuel A Duval, what's Mac Jones's

1625
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 3: trade value for a quarterback needy team like the Vikings?

1626
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Zero?

1627
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: And why would you trade him? Yeah?

1628
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 4: First of all, you're not going to trade him for

1629
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 4: what they give you. Let's say they give you a fourth, fifth,

1630
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 4: sixth rounder. And the Vikings, yes, they lost to JJ McCarthy,

1631
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 4: but they also signed the off season Sam.

1632
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: Darnold knowing Nick, and they have Nick Mullins.

1633
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: Nick Mullins, I mean, they're not gonna They're I don't

1634
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 4: think they're in the market even to trade for a quarterback.

1635
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 5: No.

1636
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 3: Next quest at Tartan Teel, do you do the three

1637
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: of you have predictions for the stat lines of Parker

1638
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: Washington and Tank Bigsby this year.

1639
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: Both have really impressed so far.

1640
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 4: I go over the season. Yeah, yeah, I'll take a

1641
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 4: shot at this. I'm gonna say six hundred and fifty

1642
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 4: yards rushing for Tank and a lot two hundreds a

1643
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 4: lot two hundred yards receiving, now one hundred and fifty receiving.

1644
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: So you say they're going to go what twelve or

1645
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: two thousand rushing yards as a combo this year.

1646
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that means six fifty four thirteen

1647
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 4: to fifty for I don't think I don't have too much.

1648
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't have Travis getting thirteen to fifty. No, I

1649
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 4: think Travis is a eleven hundred Okay. I think Parker

1650
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 4: Washington has between twenty five and thirty catches for three

1651
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards. I mean a couple of touchdowns.

1652
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm assuming that Kirk stays healthy the whole year, so

1653
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: he'll be the backup slot.

1654
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: Okay, how many yards did you say for Parker Washington?

1655
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 4: I said between twenty five to thirty catches and about

1656
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 4: between two fifty to three hundred, so ten yards a catch.

1657
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right. I would do okay on

1658
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: that one. I think you're way high on thingsby you

1659
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 2: don't think he gets six to fifty, No, more like

1660
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: five hundreds too high?

1661
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: Okay? And what's Travis getting Travis et in junior pete?

1662
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: I think I think Tony's about right with that one,

1663
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: probably eleven hundred. I mean, what do you think they

1664
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: rushed for as a team?

1665
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 4: I mean you, well, whatd they rush for last year?

1666
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 4: Travis had I think right at eleven hundred last year, right,

1667
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 4: and I don't know what they were. They rushed for

1668
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 4: like seventeen hundred last year.

1669
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: Standby they average your here, I'll tell you what they

1670
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: average is what they are. I got the average ninety

1671
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: six point eight eight per game, so right about seventeen hundred.

1672
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so seventeen hundred. So I'm saying they're gonna be okay,

1673
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 4: But let's just say it's seventeen hundred. Okay, say sixteen fifty.

1674
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: Right, so then you have you have them at If

1675
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: I get five hundred and eleven hundred.

1676
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 4: That's sixteen, that's six hundred. Well I have six fifty

1677
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 4: at seventeen fifteen. And let's say, uh, Trevor gets another

1678
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty. So I've met like eighteen hundred,

1679
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 4: nineteen hundred yards this year. So I'm bet I'm betting

1680
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: Pete they're gonna have.

1681
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: A better year and stuff like that. You gotta count that, yeah.

1682
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 4: But I'm betting they're having a better year than they

1683
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 4: did last year when they were atrocious on the ground.

1684
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: Sixteen got better.

1685
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: I just think six fifty is a lot for your

1686
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: backup running back, though.

1687
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 4: So let's say, what what did what's middle of the

1688
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 4: pack last year as far as yards per game rushing

1689
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:44,879
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty yards.

1690
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: Pete, Yeah, like a fifteenth ranked team in the league.

1691
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: Last year, the sixteenth ranked team in the league was

1692
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: the Giants at one ten.

1693
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 4: So what so one ten year ATA is involved in

1694
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 4: that too, You're right now, basically you're just under nineteen

1695
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 4: hundred yards at one ten.

1696
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: Right, so that counts reverses. Yeah, quarterback runs, So.

1697
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 4: Maybe you might be you might be right, So maybe

1698
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 4: five hundred is better than a But.

1699
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 3: In theory, Tank would get more work earlier in the

1700
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: season to give Travis more work later in the season.

1701
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 4: Well, the pace that Travis was on last year, and

1702
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 4: we said it on the show, was not sustainable the

1703
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,799
Speaker 4: number of touches he had. So I'm expecting I'm expecting

1704
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 4: Tank to I'm not going to say share the load

1705
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty running the ball, but.

1706
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: If this team's play, if this team plays, I'll say this, Pete.

1707
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 4: If this team plays with the lead late in the

1708
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: game and you're in more of that for minute offense,

1709
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 4: I could see games where Tank has more carries.

1710
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they should take Travis out on the goal

1711
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 2: line like Laughlin used to take Fred out on the goal.

1712
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they put Tank as their

1713
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 4: goal one back.

1714
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: But see, I never understood that. Well, I don't understand.

1715
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 4: I didn't understand with Fred because Fred was two hundred

1716
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 4: and thirty five pounds.

1717
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah small, he's.

1718
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: Still but I mean, if Etn's your lead back, as

1719
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: your lead back.

1720
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 4: But I think you're talking apples and oranges. Fred Taylor

1721
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 4: is bigger than any back on his team. This is

1722
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 4: all you saying that.

1723
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 2: This is not just saying in that scenario.

1724
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 4: I know, Pete, this is all you need to know

1725
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 4: about Fred Taylor and how great he was. Fred Taylor

1726
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 4: would be the biggest back on this team, and he

1727
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 4: would be the fastest back on this team, and he'd

1728
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 4: be the most elusive back on this team.

1729
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: He might be the fastest player on the team.

1730
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: He very well could be. He ran four two nine

1731
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: or four to three, whatever he ran, he ran as fast.

1732
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: As he Fred Taylor, that's the great You know what,

1733
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: that's the line of the show.

1734
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 4: Because you're right, JP, Fred ran as fast as he

1735
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 4: needed to to get in the end zone. I mean,

1736
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 4: that guy yep.

1737
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know what, though Jimmy caught him

1738
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: on his ninety yard run.

1739
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 4: Well, Jimmy ran as fast as he needed to as well.

1740
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 4: Those two guys could fly, and here's the difference between

1741
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 4: them and a lot of guys who can fly at

1742
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 4: the combine or fly running a forty. They were just

1743
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: as fast in full pads as they were, you know,

1744
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 4: in jim Short's running.

1745
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean it's just like Jerry Rice. I said to

1746
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, he ran four to six when he came

1747
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: out or whatever, and he said, did anybody ever catch

1748
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: me from behind?

1749
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: I said, no, right, no, right Now.

1750
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 4: There's certain guys, Now there's a lot. I mean Tyreek Hill,

1751
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 4: he's as fast as he is with pads as he

1752
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 4: is without. I mean, well he's and he's a track guy, right,

1753
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 4: that's different. But there are certain guys who play football fast,

1754
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 4: and Jimmy was one of those guys.

1755
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: He was. Next question, Jag and Tag.

1756
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 3: Do you think it makes a difference having press Taylor

1757
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 3: on the sidelines compared to the booth or as a

1758
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: boot because it's preseason, it doesn't.

1759
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's preseason post skeeds in regular

1760
01:24:54,760 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 4: season after season, offseason, no season, full season, it doesn't matter.

1761
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: Can we stop already with this?

1762
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm exhausted and it's not even the regular season of

1763
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 4: talking about where Press Taylor is in the sidelines, in

1764
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 4: the press box, who's calling plays? Because here's how this

1765
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 4: organization works. It's been like this, in my opinion, for

1766
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 4: the whole time. They build out the play sheet and

1767
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 4: the call sheet during the week. As a staff, Press

1768
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 4: and Doug working very closely, and I think when they

1769
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: call the plays, whether it's Press or Doug, both have

1770
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 4: a lot of input of how the games can be called.

1771
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: Well, here's the other part of it. Where's the There's

1772
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: been coaches, coordinators have been on the sideline, there's been

1773
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: coordinators have been upstairs and coordinators on the sidelines of

1774
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: that success and coordinators.

1775
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 4: Here's the only thing I want to know if I

1776
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 4: was king for a day, Press, where are you most

1777
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 4: comfortable and where are you going to call the best game?

1778
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 4: Because that's where I'm going to put you right because

1779
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 4: I don't care if you're on the sideline or the booth.

1780
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 4: I want to know what's going to give you the

1781
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 4: best opportunity to call the best possible game.

1782
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: Well, I added it up today. Not counting Doug Peterson,

1783
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 2: eleven head coaches called plays. They're not in a booth.

1784
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters.

1785
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: Pete, I don't either. I'm with you, Tony, I agree

1786
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: with your one hundred percent. I don't think it matters.

1787
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 4: Kevin Gilbright was a great play caller. He was in

1788
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 4: the sideline correct the year the year called sideline when

1789
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 4: we went fourteen and two, Tom Tom Kaughlin called the

1790
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 4: whole year was the offense codinator. I mean he was

1791
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 4: a called we had a coordinator, but he called every

1792
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 4: play as the head coach.

1793
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: He was on silent that was uh was that?

1794
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: That was with a crazy man from uh wasn't he

1795
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 2: from Louisville and the Falcons?

1796
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 4: And Petrino was the quote unquote coordinator. Yeah, but Tom

1797
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 4: called plays. In two thousand, Petrino started calm plays.

1798
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: Right, Let's get one more question in at so Ryan

1799
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 3: looking ahead, Kirk has a cap number of twenty three

1800
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: point three million next year. He is he potentially on

1801
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: the chopping block next off season with tim million of savings.

1802
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 3: Have to give Washington at least a season as the

1803
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 3: starter receiving.

1804
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: And take over the role So what are they saying

1805
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: cut him now? I don't know.

1806
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: No, he's talking about oh right now, Well.

1807
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: There's two different thoughts there, I think is the issue.

1808
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 4: So who picked this question?

1809
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: I did? Is Kirk on the chopping next off season? No,

1810
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: that's one.

1811
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 4: Well, it depends how he plays this year.

1812
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1813
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 1: Right we're talking about we're talking about who we're gonna

1814
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: cut next year. JP. The fact that of a thousand

1815
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: questions we got on X today, you chose this one.

1816
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: We haven't even cut the team this year yet.

1817
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: And you think I start rushing things when I start

1818
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 2: talking about the draft only cow? How about this?

1819
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 4: Here's my answer this question.

1820
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1821
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: But all I answer it is irritated Tony if but

1822
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: he's right. If Kirk has one hundred catches for you're

1823
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: gonna redo him.

1824
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, round, you'll redo it.

1825
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: You'll do it if he has a If he has

1826
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: forty five catches and doesn't do anything, then you'll get

1827
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: rid of him.

1828
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 4: Here's here's a news flash to you, JP and whoever

1829
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 4: wrote that question, Christian Kirk is the most important, you

1830
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: could argue, the most important offensive player on this team

1831
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 4: besides Trevor Lawrence I agree.

1832
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: And here's the other part of that. Equazy does he

1833
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: really was part of that question. He wants them to

1834
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: get rid of now and to.

1835
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: Get Washington some snaps.

1836
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 4: I don't understand the question. I don't understand how you

1837
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 4: picked the question.

1838
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't like this is on your part.

1839
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 3: That's like, ye, you know what, I'll take that one

1840
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: and I take you know. That's that's my response. We're

1841
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 3: talking about and I have picked a back.

1842
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 4: Cat management in twenty twenty five when we haven't played

1843
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: a regular season game.

1844
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, we're talking about one of our

1845
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: best players.

1846
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: On the team you have to draft in October. JP

1847
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: starts to go nuts you out there, he's got this cut.

1848
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: We haven't even kicked off the season here yet.

1849
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a limba.

1850
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 4: My guess is Kirk's gonna have a good year this

1851
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 4: year and he's gonna probably be an important part of

1852
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 4: the future, and.

1853
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: They'll redo his contract dictate less than the cap it.

1854
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if anyone's watched this team

1855
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 4: when Kirk's on the field and the difference when he's not.

1856
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: We saw it. We saw it in December, and how

1857
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: he is able.

1858
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: To make plays from the slot. How he's one of

1859
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 4: the smartest football players on this team. How he's a

1860
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 4: leader on the team. Like I can't I can't say

1861
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 4: enough good things about Kirk and this is someone When

1862
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 4: we signed him two years ago, I was like.

1863
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Wow, did we overpay for him? Let me tell you

1864
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: what the answer is.

1865
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 4: No, I was an idiot.

1866
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: We didn't overpay for that.

1867
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1868
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 4: You got it right, Pete, you were dead on. I mean,

1869
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 4: I liked him as a player, but I'm like, wow,

1870
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 4: that's a lot of money for a slot receiver. Like

1871
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 4: he's earned every dollar that we have paid him.

1872
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: He is a pros pro.

1873
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 4: He's an outstanding player, he's a leader, he shows up

1874
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: the work like he's a dang good football player.

1875
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: By the way, the more I watch that rookie wide receiver,

1876
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: the more I like.

1877
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: It's getting better.

1878
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: He can.

1879
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 4: We're talking about Brian Thomas junior.

1880
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: He can.

1881
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: He can fly like catch on the sideline.

1882
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 2: That was a heck of a rowdy ran.

1883
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 4: I agree, he gets behind anyone he wants.

1884
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, who, I'll do a questions for twenty Yeah today,

1885
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 3: give me another week.

1886
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 4: I got a question when we open the season in

1887
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 4: the new stadium in twenty twenty eight. Who do you

1888
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 4: think will be our starting five offensive lineman?

1889
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, I just hope I'm alive. Then we're back

1890
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: in a moment.

1891
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 4: Hey, Pete, we're all day to day baby.

1892
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: A Jag fans.

1893
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 3: Are you duvall enough to become the Jags twenty twenty

1894
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 3: four Fan of the Year and are on a trip

1895
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. This is at NFL dot com.

1896
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 3: Slash Fan of the Year and nominate someone today. Shaguars

1897
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 3: Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.

1898
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Welcome back.

1899
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 3: Final moments of Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.

1900
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 3: We're at the Hundai studios of the Miller Electric Center. J. P.

1901
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 3: Shadwick with Hall of Famer Tony BUSSELLI Pete Prisco, isn't

1902
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 3: our personal Hall of Fame. He's down in South Florida.

1903
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 3: He should be in the Hall of Fame. He should

1904
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 3: get the Writer Award. Why haven't you gotten that, Pete?

1905
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: A good question, but I have an idea.

1906
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 4: Pete is one of the more underrated, underappreciated national.

1907
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: Misunderstood.

1908
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 4: That's no, he's understood. That's part of the problem. That

1909
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 4: is part of the problem. But I'm not just saying

1910
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 4: this because he's one of my good friends, but one

1911
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 4: of the best in the business. What he does and

1912
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 4: does not get the recognition he deserves.

1913
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Well, thank you.

1914
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 4: That's a fact.

1915
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a fact.

1916
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 4: Now sometimes sometimes it's because he says stuff that people

1917
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 4: don't want to hear, which I enjoyed personally.

1918
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of guys, by the way,

1919
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: that should be in the Hall of Fame that don't

1920
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 2: even get sniffs. And I'll give you Rick Stroud, who

1921
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,839
Speaker 2: wrote the book with Tom Moore, by the way, longtime

1922
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Bucks writers covered the Bucks as long as I cover

1923
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: another one. But he doesn't play the game. Armando Silgarrett

1924
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 2: covers the Dolphins for years, and Networks doesn't play the game.

1925
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 2: And so it's almost become a situation where if you don't,

1926
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: you know, go to dinner with certain people or do this,

1927
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,879
Speaker 2: you're not going to get in. And so I've resigned

1928
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: my fact that I'm not getting in. And if that's

1929
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: like Tony, like you used to say, if that's the

1930
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 2: worst thing that happened in my life, I had a

1931
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: hell of a life.

1932
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep, yep. People who know you, and people

1933
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 4: who cover the game like you do, and people who

1934
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 4: played the game that you covered, they know, they know

1935
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 4: the quality of reporter that you are and that you

1936
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 4: do the work.

1937
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 2: And if you get in, if you think I appreciate that,

1938
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: If I got in, I wouldn't be able to sit

1939
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: around and make any more money for signing my signature anyway,

1940
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: So it's not.

1941
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 4: Worth Yeah, Pete, I don't think you're getting any extra

1942
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 4: cash for being in there.

1943
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 3: For eleven years, dream Finders Homes has been proud to

1944
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 3: call themselves the official homebuilder of the Jags. Visit dreamfinders

1945
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,520
Speaker 3: homes dot com for all the available inventory.

1946
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 4: They built. They built my home. They build one, did they?

1947
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: They did?

1948
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 4: They build a great home, I mean outstanding home.

1949
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that home yet.

1950
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, they built You've been there the new house. No,

1951
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 4: that's not true.

1952
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: I invited you last year.

1953
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 2: But did you for Christmas last I did? I?

1954
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 4: Actually, Pete, to be clear, I invited him for Thanksgiving

1955
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 4: and Christmas and he turned both of them down. He

1956
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 4: was calling a game on Thanksgiving for Christmas, and then

1957
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 4: I went to see my family, well my fa more important.

1958
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've invited it to go see his dad's

1959
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 2: so dad could spend no ripping on me.

1960
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: Right o.

1961
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 4: We dreamfinders, they build an outstanding home. I can't say

1962
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 4: enough about that group.

1963
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: All we did over Christal Center was talk about Pete.

1964
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: That's all we did.

1965
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know that's become a running gag now. I

1966
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 2: hope your dad knows that, right.

1967
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

1968
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 3: This week ahead, final week of preseason. They've got a

1969
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 3: couple of practices left here and then its starters in

1970
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 3: the game Friday in Atlanta, maybe a couple quarters. We've

1971
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 3: talked about offensive line all five expected to go in

1972
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 3: the game for the first time this preseason, and the

1973
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: defense out there too, so they've been they're gonna work

1974
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: on a little bit of a game plan this week.

1975
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 3: So full steam ahead, right Tony.

1976
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is important just the first half.

1977
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously gold number one has come out healthy.

1978
01:34:54,240 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 4: But I view Atlanta, new coach, new quarterback, middle of

1979
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 4: the road NFC South team, you know, middle of the road.

1980
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 4: So if we think if the Jaguars are who we

1981
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 4: want them to be, and we think they can be,

1982
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 4: not that you have to go hang twenty eight.

1983
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: On them or and shut them out.

1984
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: But you need to go control the first half, right,

1985
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: move the ball, Yeah, just control stop them.

1986
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, just control the game in the first half. I

1987
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 4: think that you know, one healthy two controlling the game

1988
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 4: when your starters are in there. I think that's what

1989
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 4: the outcome you're looking for going into you know, basically

1990
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 4: over a two week break before you kick it off

1991
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 4: for real.

1992
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make a prediction here.

1993
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas will catch a long touchdown pass in that game.

1994
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 3: Do you want to do you want to lock that Pete?

1995
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Lock it a lock in the final segment, Brian Thomas.

1996
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: What's long? What's your definition of long? I like that lock.

1997
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: He's been playing better.

1998
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's I want to see some deep balls

1999
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 2: going down the field, some shots hit, and I want

2000
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: to see the offensive line show up, show up. That

2001
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 2: is not a great defensive line for the Falcons, So

2002
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 2: go and show up, run the ball, push them around,

2003
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: protect the quarterback.

2004
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Sounds like a player to me, and defensively.

2005
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: Stop the run. Yeah, that's a he's a good bat,

2006
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: that's a good there's talent on that offense.

2007
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 3: Now we saw what he did, I mean did he plays.

2008
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 2: Pretty good too. By the way, they're gonna give him

2009
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 2: a test.

2010
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they play physical. I'm not sure how talented

2011
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 4: they are, but they're well coached.

2012
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 2: But the right guards might be the best right guard.

2013
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's all five across the board. But

2014
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 4: my point, like, I think, I think Matthews is a

2015
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 4: good left tackle. He's not great McCrary. They're right tackles.

2016
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 4: Little bit limited as far as athletically, but big, tough,

2017
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 4: strong guy physical, So I mean, and I think they're

2018
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 4: you know, the way they want to play with Robinson

2019
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 4: and kind of other structured. I think it'll be a

2020
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 4: good physical matchup.

2021
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 3: Pete, great show as always. We'll talk to you again.

2022
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 3: Uh in two weeks. We won't have one on Labor

2023
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 3: Day next.

2024
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?

2025
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 5: You?

2026
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: You put your the fan right in and you put

2027
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: your in the calendar.

2028
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 4: We'll see you next week.

2029
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: People, J P.

2030
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Chadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony Miscelli. It's a show. Let's go