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Speaker 1: Welcome to Forties and Free Agents. I am Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: This show is presented by Toyota and that is Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: the number one public enemy of the Public Library System

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Speaker 1: of Southern California.

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Speaker 2: Welcome DJ.

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Speaker 3: Two things. Number one for those that are listening to

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Speaker 3: this was Greg's ninth take to start this potasa. So

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Speaker 3: that's the first part of it. The second part of

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Speaker 3: it is like, who knew there was a librarian fan

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Speaker 3: club out there that has just been all over me

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Speaker 3: on social media. Greg has rounded them up and they've

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Speaker 3: attacked with the vengeance. And I got to say, sometimes

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Speaker 3: there's sometimes you got to fall on the sword and

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Speaker 3: say I was wrong. This is not one of those times.

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Speaker 3: So let's go on with the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We still have not heard from any listeners that have

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Speaker 1: the Jerry Mark Bright book.

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Speaker 2: We will be looking out for them. This is a

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Speaker 2: big show, Big Day.

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Speaker 1: DJ's mock three point zero is out. When you listen

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Speaker 1: to this, you can go check it out. You can

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Speaker 1: accompany that you're listening and look, how many do you

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Speaker 1: get to in the end?

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Speaker 2: Is it four? Is it five? How many are we

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Speaker 2: going to do?

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Speaker 3: I think we're getting close here. I think four or five.

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Speaker 3: No more than five, so we're either one or two left.

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Speaker 1: Like, do you care about getting hits on three point zero?

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Speaker 1: Does it matter to you now? Or you just care

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Speaker 1: about that last one right before the draft you're trying

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Speaker 1: to get hits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I could tell you that I don't

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Speaker 3: care about any of them. I do. I wish I

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Speaker 3: could say that, But the last one there is like,

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Speaker 3: it's not that I hope to get, you know, fifteen, right,

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Speaker 3: it's just like you have that in your head, like

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Speaker 3: I just I mean, Mendoza hopefully one one. We're okay there, Like,

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Speaker 3: just give me a handful, Like, just give me a

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Speaker 3: handful of them, and then that's it. And then and

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Speaker 3: then you'll see everybody that puts the scorecards out there

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff. I don't really care about that.

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Speaker 3: I just I'm looking not to be completely embarrassed with

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Speaker 3: the final tally.

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Speaker 2: Oh you like getting some right?

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Speaker 1: And look, I had a problem going through this entire

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Speaker 1: list because it all seemed too logical to me.

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Speaker 2: So we could go through it one to thirty two.

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Speaker 2: That would be born.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk first about the changes in the top five.

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Speaker 1: You have Mendoza first overall, But the first big change

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Speaker 1: is Rvel Reese. I'm just gonna run through the top

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Speaker 1: five and then ask you some questions. Arvel Reese, the

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Speaker 1: edge from Ohio State, call them the linebacker going to

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Speaker 1: the Jets.

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Speaker 2: That is a change. You had Bailey there before.

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Speaker 1: You have the tackle Francis Maui Noah from you know,

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Speaker 1: going from Miami and going to Arizona. And then Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: Love at four to the Titans. That's spicy and sunny

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Speaker 1: styles the big linebacker from Ohio State going to the

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Speaker 1: Giants at five. So let's go through these kind of

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Speaker 1: one by one. Obviously, Mendoza is easy. Love at four

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Speaker 1: is spicy. Is this because they spent so much on

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Speaker 2: Or is it just best player available? It's both.

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Speaker 3: It's best player available, but it's also the fact that

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Speaker 3: looking at this saying, this pick is for cam Ward,

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Speaker 3: So who is the pick that helps cam Ward the most?

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Speaker 3: And you know we've long discussed the running back philosophy

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Speaker 3: I couldn't argue for any other player that would help

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Speaker 3: cam Ward more than Jeremiah Love. And there's also look,

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Speaker 3: do think he would be a dynamic player in that offense.

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Speaker 3: That'll be fun to watch those two guys kind of

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Speaker 3: grow up together. Would be fun. But Greg, they're going

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Speaker 3: So there is I always, you know, there's sometimes where

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons great player, beloved, I'm sure in Nashville. But

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jeremiah Love would be a lot of

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Speaker 3: the thing that's going to be fascinating with them. And

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Speaker 1: So you know, you give him an offensive player. Because

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Speaker 1: they spent so much in free agency on defense in

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Speaker 1: And yet despite all that, I would argue, you know,

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Speaker 3: But to me, it wasn't what they did on defense,

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Speaker 3: just that they took the resources they had, and some

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Speaker 3: short term deals, but they they neglected the offense to

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Speaker 2: I love seeing Rvel Reese at two. You moved him up?

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Speaker 1: Is that because of how you view him or because

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Speaker 3: There's always a couple guys where I have the same

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Speaker 3: that I still have Bailey in my list over rvel

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Speaker 3: Reach just because to me, there's more certainty. I've seen

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Speaker 3: whereas rvl Reas has a little bit of that versatility

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Speaker 3: I kind of want to look, they're playing a thirty four.

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Speaker 3: They want to be multiple do different things. I think

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Speaker 3: He can do that. He can do a lot of

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Speaker 3: different things. And I also think this is not a

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Speaker 3: more of the long game here and not worry about

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Speaker 3: So that was the working theory I had. Some of

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Speaker 3: it is simple to Greg, like, look, I've put other

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Speaker 3: guys there, how does it I want to see the

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Speaker 3: domino effect of if this then what? So that's part

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Speaker 3: of the mock draft exercise for me.

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Speaker 1: Just to keep yourself mentally engaged because this show isn't

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Speaker 3: That's fair, Yeah, By the way, what is going on

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Speaker 3: with your lighting back there? Looks like you've got like

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Speaker 2: I am in the studio today.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're working around the Jeremiah schedule, so you

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Speaker 1: know we're right, we're going right into a big NFL

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Speaker 1: Daily right afterwards.

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Speaker 2: I got it to get into the studio.

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Speaker 1: One question though, Jan Reese, if he was with the Jets,

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Speaker 3: Doesn't pay sure with a lot of money, I know,

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Speaker 3: according to NFL dot com slash iq, I believe.

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Speaker 2: You could just eat that loss because they have the

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Speaker 1: They have Will McDonald, Joseph Asai Kingsley, and Igbari, so

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Speaker 1: to get Ali Connelly who's on NFL Daily, to join

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not agree with that, but I think

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Speaker 3: he can play off the ball, but I think his

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Speaker 3: I think his impactful be better felt off the edge.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a sick late. I think instinct wise,

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Speaker 3: I think Sonny Style is more instinctive than him. You

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Speaker 1: So you have Sunny Styles at five, that that feels

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Speaker 1: a huge need for the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I do like how you guys are

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Speaker 1: It's about the tape, it's about football, it's not about

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Speaker 1: the combine. But then the second Sunny Styles gets out

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Speaker 2: To put him higher on my top fifty. We got

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Speaker 2: to put him up in the mock draft.

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Speaker 3: I'm just pulling it up, right, I'm just pulling right.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because my first list came out January twenty second. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's my first list. Sonny Styles was my fifth player. Okay,

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Speaker 3: twenty second. See now Sonny Styles is my third player.

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Speaker 3: So he's moved up a whopping two spots and I

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Speaker 3: have him going, oh, look at that five on my list.

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Speaker 3: What a gross overreaction, moves up two spots and goes

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Speaker 3: the exact same spot of where I have him on

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Speaker 3: my overall list. It's two spider, it's a cheap shot.

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Speaker 1: Two spots is a lot. You could view it a

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Speaker 1: different way. He went up forty from.

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Speaker 2: Five to three. You know, it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: How much would you have to give up in the

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Speaker 2: That might be like a second round pick, a first

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Speaker 3: He's got the same grade. He's got the same grade.

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Speaker 3: You see him in person, and to lump a group

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Speaker 1: So let's do a section that I am really excited

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Speaker 1: the picks on your mock draft that I think you right.

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Speaker 1: We've only gone through the top five so far, so

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Speaker 1: just read them off for now. Carnel Tate is going

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad. You know, first of all, Greg,

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Speaker 3: But I think people are listening. If you're a fan,

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Speaker 3: it is well expected, I'll put it that way that

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Speaker 3: the operation is going to be everything. Now, the safe

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Speaker 3: with them taking tape. When you get to Baine, who

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Speaker 3: I've heard, you know, when we're talking about players that

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Speaker 2: A lot to get to there.

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Speaker 1: But I thought you would give me some credit for

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Speaker 1: getting Maunoa right with the with the side. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like Lil Wayne says, Gee's moving silence like in Lasagna.

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Speaker 3: You know, well, I just if you would have been

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Speaker 3: You pronouncing was like Charles Barkley's golf swing, That's what

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Speaker 1: It was like you trying to handle a pop culture

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Speaker 2: I was like, what it wasn't I did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do TV with him though on nfilm.

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Speaker 3: That's I would have Yeah, if you wanted to go

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Speaker 1: Caleb Downs is he the.

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Speaker 3: For the Bengals. I got you on your heels a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he can give you that versatility to be able

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Speaker 1: First of all, I pointed out on social media that, like,

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Speaker 1: where are the holes the whole like and and I think.

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Speaker 3: Got too young. They got the two young backs in

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Speaker 1: They're talent, sure, but Judkins might miss. That's a very

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Speaker 3: It was his injury.

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Speaker 1: It was it was the combo, you know, fractured leg

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Speaker 1: count that. My question for you, though, is he the

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Speaker 3: the first round. Ozzie Newsome was always a proponent of doubles, like,

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Speaker 3: third round you want to roll the dice a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little more risk tolerant, but not here. I think,

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Speaker 3: to me, Tate is rock, so'll you know exactly what

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Speaker 1: So I have two more picks. I think you got right.

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Speaker 1: That's it, I guess no. I liked the lot of

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Speaker 1: A key messador the edge rusher at fifteen to the bucks.

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Speaker 1: An interesting name. Maybe different viewpoints of him out there,

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Speaker 1: but they absolutely need an edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: What was your thinking there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I definitely think it's a need

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Speaker 3: bring kind of a little bit of an edge to

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Speaker 3: the edge position. And he's another one that has the

437
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Speaker 3: ability to kick inside and rush, you know, inside over guards.

438
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Speaker 3: Miami did that with both those guys last year. So

439
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Speaker 3: I just like the temperament he plays with. And you know,

440
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Speaker 3: the age, I don't I don't know that that's gonna

441
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Speaker 3: hurt him as much as maybe some people would.

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Speaker 2: Think twenty five years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be a little bit older. But I

444
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Speaker 3: just think you're gonna, you know, you're gonna he's gonna

445
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Speaker 3: be ripper on, ready to go, polished, no development required,

446
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Speaker 3: and he's going to step in and make an impact.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what edge that they could sign in the meantime.

448
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Speaker 1: You know, Joey Bosa is still out there. There's a

449
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Speaker 1: couple guys. Aj Epaness is still out there, Cameron Jordan.

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Speaker 1: That would be funny after they went back and forth

451
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Speaker 1: on social media, like cause I think they are kind

452
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Speaker 1: of in the spot you don't want to be, which

453
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Speaker 1: is they have to take an edge I feel like

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Speaker 1: in the first two rounds at this point they might

455
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Speaker 1: feel that way no matter what they do, but they

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Speaker 1: might add one other uh signing, and then one another.

457
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Speaker 1: One I wanted to shout out was your twenty seventh

458
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Speaker 1: bick Kenyan Sadik the Oregon tight end, falling all the

459
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Speaker 1: way to twenty seven. But I love I love the fit.

460
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Speaker 1: I can see it on the forty nine ers. You know,

461
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Speaker 1: how did he fall so far? And then what do

462
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Speaker 1: you think about them taking like a tight end even

463
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Speaker 1: when you have Kittle in place.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always this happens every year where there's somebody

465
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Speaker 3: that you think is, you know, like highly rated. Let

466
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Speaker 3: me see where I have him on my top fifty

467
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Speaker 3: list to get.

468
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Speaker 2: I think he's in your top fifteen.

469
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Speaker 3: So's he's my thirteenth player. But this happens every year,

470
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Speaker 3: and when you're going through the exercise and you get

471
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Speaker 3: by some certain spots like here here was I've long

472
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Speaker 3: thought his floor would be the Chargers at twenty two,

473
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Speaker 3: and people will say, well, you've got Gadsden, you went

474
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Speaker 3: out and got Coler Like I'm like that this is

475
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Speaker 3: a different type of player, Like he's just a different

476
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Speaker 3: caliber of guy, and I think of a play caller

477
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Speaker 3: like Mike McDaniel be able to use him and have

478
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun with the creativity and how you

479
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Speaker 3: could utilize him. In this scenario, I had Yowani, the

480
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Speaker 3: guard from Penn State falling down a little bit. So

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Speaker 3: if you're the Chargers, and I'll pose that question to you,

482
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Speaker 3: you've got, my opinion, the top interior offensive lineman in

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Speaker 3: the draft, and you've got the top tight end in

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Speaker 3: the draft. I couldn't you have to take the interior

485
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman where they are. I know they've paid Cole

486
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Speaker 3: Strange and they've made some other investments there. They brought

487
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Speaker 3: Penning back, but Yoani's on a whole different level. I

488
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Speaker 3: would have a hard time passing on him to take

489
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Speaker 3: the tight end. So that that was kind of the

490
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Speaker 3: last hurdle which got him all the way down to

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Speaker 3: San Francisco. The same things I would say about him

492
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Speaker 3: playing with Mike Daniel, I say the same things I've

493
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Speaker 3: been playing with Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: I like the Yuana pick and I'm definitely taking that

495
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Speaker 1: because Daniel Jeremiah told me to. I'm getting the feeling that,

496
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Speaker 1: like DJ is the shadow GM here for the Chargers.

497
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Speaker 1: He's always nailing these these Chargers picks.

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Speaker 3: Now somebody did something. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 3: them or the Ravens. It was one of the maybe

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Speaker 3: it was the Eagles, one of the teams that I'm

501
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Speaker 3: I'm often associated with. It was like, if you go

502
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Speaker 3: back and look at his mock draft two point zero,

503
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Speaker 3: he always has the right one in that one. Did

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Speaker 3: you do this?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I told you about that, but yes, I was

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Speaker 1: on social and it was the Chargers, and I went

507
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Speaker 1: back and I saw a quote from you in the

508
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Speaker 1: scouting combine. You think I don't do research for forties

509
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Speaker 1: three and you called him your favorite offensive lineman in

510
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Speaker 1: the draft. So of course the Chargers are going to

511
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Speaker 1: take him at twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where

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Speaker 3: they stand on that. The funny thing is, like I do.

514
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Speaker 3: I've known Orties for twenty years and we're buddies, but

515
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Speaker 3: I have other buddies around the league where we'll talk

516
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Speaker 3: a little more openly about players. And he doesn't give

517
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Speaker 3: me anything, so I don't. I never really have any

518
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Speaker 3: firm intel. People I know think that I'm I am,

519
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Speaker 3: but I promise you I'm not so okay.

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Speaker 1: I like to see you, to see you squirm here.

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Speaker 1: All right, those are the picks I thought you did

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Speaker 1: well on. That was all in presented by Toyota. We're

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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break, and during that break,

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Speaker 1: I just want the listeners to think about what it

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Speaker 1: was like when when a young Daniel Jeremiah was was

526
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Speaker 1: playing h Town you know on MTV, and his parents

527
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Speaker 1: walked in the room. How he just scampered to switch

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Speaker 1: the channel.

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Speaker 3: We'll just be back in a minute.

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Speaker 1: That that was an uncomfortable song to be on when

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Speaker 1: it was like I came out.

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Speaker 3: No, the worst one was what was the one?

533
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Speaker 2: Let Me Lick You up?

534
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Speaker 3: And that was the one that was that was that

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Speaker 3: was definitely the uncomfortable one.

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Speaker 2: Please put that into the podcast.

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Speaker 3: No, please don't need that right now.

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Speaker 1: Back on Forties and free Agents, presented by Toyota. That's

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Speaker 1: why we had to cut out the X rated version,

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Speaker 1: which included DJ singing freak me baby.

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Speaker 2: Break.

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Speaker 1: Uh. That's what That's what I'll remember when when I

543
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Speaker 1: think about Forties and Free Agents.

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Speaker 3: When they shut this thing down and now from now.

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Speaker 1: The oh stop, look, some picks I think that you

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Speaker 1: got wrong. This was a suggested segment, and so I

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Speaker 1: just had to go for some We mentioned mauioa before.

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Speaker 1: You have them at three your description, and you have

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Speaker 1: them in your top ten. So it's a player you like,

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Speaker 1: but maybe not that's not quite the value that you

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Speaker 1: see him at.

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Speaker 2: When I read on.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's description of him that he has a skill

554
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Speaker 1: set to be functional in pass protection, I'm not that

555
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Speaker 1: excited about number three. And my argument, my pushback would

556
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Speaker 1: for you would be, I don't know if you've been

557
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Speaker 1: hearing something specific that sure they have a need at

558
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Speaker 1: right tackle, but they have a need almost anywhere else

559
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Speaker 1: that they would be considering here, especially those defensive players.

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Speaker 1: They could absolutely use an off ball linebacker. And I

561
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Speaker 1: know they have players at edge, Zalon Collins, Baron Browning,

562
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Speaker 1: et cetera, Josh Sweat. Those should not be players preventing

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Speaker 1: you from taking the best player on the board.

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Speaker 2: So ultimately, I just think this.

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Speaker 1: Team needs juice, and I don't see any reason why

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be looking at the other players for a

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Speaker 1: little bit of juice at number three.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna pull up something here real quick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not even functional, yet you have the

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Speaker 1: skill set to be functional.

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Speaker 2: I want I want a little more from the number

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Speaker 2: three pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, let me, I'm pulling something. Okay, off

574
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Speaker 3: the ball, here's an off the ball linebacker, six three

575
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Speaker 3: and five eights, two hundred and thirty eight pounds. He

576
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Speaker 3: ran four to three nine long rangey linebacker playing the

577
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Speaker 3: slot and move around the deep middle. He's got he's

578
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Speaker 3: got big time burst, just average take on. So it

579
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Speaker 3: was an off the ball linebacker as a need. You

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Speaker 3: kind of see that, you know, being a selection. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: those are my Isaiah Simmons notes. And so I just

582
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Speaker 3: worry about the ghost of the GMS again. I know,

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Speaker 3: I don't care. It's organizational, and I just I worry

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Speaker 3: about and I look, I have Sonny Style, I gave

585
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Speaker 3: I missed. I whiffed on Isaiah Simmons. I openly admit

586
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Speaker 3: that Sunny Style is a better player than him. But

587
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: there's an off the ball linebacker is still an off

588
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Speaker 3: the ball linebacker. And I think when you've when you've

589
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Speaker 3: taken one high and you've missed on one at that position,

590
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Speaker 3: even if it was somebody else inside the organization, that

591
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Speaker 3: scared me off of that for them, and then with

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Speaker 3: Maui Noah. Look, there's some tackles that are going to

593
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Speaker 3: be more popular than the running back room, in the

594
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Speaker 3: quarterback room, and that's that's where he is now. The

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Speaker 3: good thing he's a right tackle, not a left tackle.

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Speaker 3: You're going to have, you're gonna have, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: going to be against the elite guys. You're probably gonna

598
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Speaker 3: need to help him out a little bit. But he's

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Speaker 3: a dominant run blocker and he's someone that you're not

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Speaker 3: going to be able to get through his chest in bolin,

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Speaker 3: which a lot of left ends are going to try

602
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Speaker 3: and do and are equipped to do. So that's that's

603
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Speaker 3: a that's what used to be. We would talk about

604
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Speaker 3: right tackle profiles, left tackle profiles, and the left tackle

605
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Speaker 3: was the elite change of direction, bend, balance, footwork, the

606
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Speaker 3: rare athletes. The right tackle was almost more of a bully.

607
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Speaker 3: And this kind of is an old you know, an

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Speaker 3: ode to that era a little bit. So he's not perfect,

609
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Speaker 3: he's not perfect, but that's you know, that's the logic

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Speaker 3: of how I got there. If that makes sense too.

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Speaker 1: The logic definitely makes sense, and it's something that I

612
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Speaker 1: could see happening. I would just say, like, how about

613
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Speaker 1: the teams that you know passed on Louke Keikley, you know,

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Speaker 1: in that draft when everyone knew he was going to

615
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Speaker 1: be a general, like they got their value, or the

616
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Speaker 1: teams that passed on Kyle Hamilton for for positional value.

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Speaker 2: I think you.

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Speaker 1: Take you take the best players, and in this case,

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Speaker 1: that could also be Jeremiah Love.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just got that. Yeah, no, I

621
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Speaker 3: did to me. And they're just they're so far away

622
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Speaker 3: from being far away. I look at also with them

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Speaker 3: two things. Number One, the quarterback need is desperate. Okay,

624
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Speaker 3: there's nobody that they can take that position with that

625
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Speaker 3: pick in my opinion, But if you're in lieu of

626
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Speaker 3: taking the quarterback, you'd like to be able to sell

627
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Speaker 3: the ownership that while we might not be getting a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: we are building the foundation to be able to support

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Speaker 3: that quarterback when he comes, whether that's you know, most

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Speaker 3: likely next year, in next year's draft. We have to

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Speaker 3: be You're always trying to sell vision and hope in

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Speaker 3: order to secure your professional Yeah. So if I'm if

633
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Speaker 3: I'm MANI right there, if I'm money on for it,

634
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Speaker 3: I be like, Okay, look, I can reach and take

635
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Speaker 3: a quarterback. Just to take a quarterback in this draft,

636
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Speaker 3: that's not the smart thing to do. But what I

637
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: am going to do is I'm going to I'm going

638
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: to create this cocoon so that when we do get

639
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Speaker 3: the quarterback next year, he's going to be able to

640
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Speaker 3: hit the ground running and off we go. It has

641
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: to be connected to the quarterback. That's the hope of

642
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Speaker 3: your franchise.

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Speaker 1: I'd say you're saying they're far away from being far away.

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Speaker 1: He's he's not a new GM, he's in what year four?

645
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: Like this thing should be cresting. And if you draft

646
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Speaker 1: an offensive or defensive rookie of the year, whether that

647
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Speaker 1: be Sunny Styles or Jeremiah of or Ruben Bainn or

648
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Speaker 1: something like that, I think that's going to be good

649
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Speaker 1: for your your job security. All right, we'll move on

650
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Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson to the Ravens. You said you see them

651
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Speaker 1: trying to hit doubles. I do want them to take

652
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. This was more of a question of, like,

653
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: convince me that this is the right move because they've

654
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: got a sneaky amount of needs. I think on this

655
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: team that the Trey Hendricks and Max Crosby excitement has

656
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: covered up. They lost a lot of players this offseason.

657
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: I think they could go in a lot of directions.

658
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Just convince me that this is a good pick for them.

659
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's not necessarily what I would do in that situation.

660
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 3: And I do think there is a little difference in

661
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: how the Ravens have drafted over the last few years

662
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: versus maybe what they traditionally had done, Like Wiggins would

663
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: not have been a Ravens draft pick, you know, ten

664
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: years ago. It's a different style of player and.

665
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: Looks pretty good.

666
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: I think that's a good pick, right, yeah, yeah, But

667
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: it was not the toughest guy in the room, you know,

668
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: was a more speed athlete. Finesse of a player didn't

669
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: really kind of totally fit the bill there. So they've

670
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: they've drafted outside of their normal patterns a little bit

671
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: over the last few years. And and with this pick particularly,

672
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Declan Doyle as the offensive coordinator, and

673
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm looking at what they liked in Luther Burden and

674
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: the success they had with Luther Burden last year in Chicago,

675
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: especially as the year went on, And I can look

676
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: at Jordan Tyson and say there's a lot of similarities

677
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: in terms of how they play the game and the

678
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: style that they have, and it would be a compliment,

679
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: a much needed weapon to compliment z a Flower. So

680
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: a little bit of that got into my thought process there.

681
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: There's also hey, this is the new regime. It's hey,

682
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: we trust Jesse. You're going to be able to get

683
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: the most to maximize our personnel and defense. We just

684
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: spent on Hendrickson. Yeah, we could take mesidor right there.

685
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: That was the choice between those two. But it was, man,

686
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: let's get Lamar excited. Let's give him something here with

687
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: this new young offensive coordinator. We want him to buy

688
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: into what we're doing. Let's give him. Let's give him

689
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: a weapon.

690
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

691
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: And speaking of weapons, you had McKay lemon being the

692
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: second wide receiver off the board at.

693
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Two and let's go to our art whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

694
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not at at thirteen as the wide

695
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: receiver too, at thirteen to the rams. So after they

696
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: supposedly get involved in the aj Brown talks, they end

697
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: up just drafting someone, which makes more sense to me.

698
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to your wide receiver four.

699
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking ahead Omar Cooper, who would be one of

700
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: the biggest, if not the biggest riser in your mock draft.

701
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Not in the mock draft last time around. Now he's

702
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: all the way up at sixteen. You also bumped him

703
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: up in your top fifty in the last time you

704
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: did it, although you had him pretty high to begin

705
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: with than contests. I feel like Omar Cooper's having a moment,

706
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: like for whatever reason, he's one of those guys, and

707
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's the league catching up, but he's someone that's

708
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: getting talked about a lot more now than maybe was

709
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: expected back in January or during the season.

710
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm looking to see now hold on, so I do.

711
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: It is interesting to look back. So he was I

712
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: hadn't watched him when I did my first list because

713
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 3: you remember, he was playing all the way to the

714
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: end of the season and was late to decide whether

715
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: he was coming into the draft. So he doesn't make

716
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: the January twenty second list. So February twenty if my

717
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: first time he's on the list. He came in at nineteen.

718
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: And then the updated version, as Greg likes to say,

719
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: I get totally crazy and I moved him up one spot.

720
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: So that was it was the nineteen that I noticed

721
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: a wild jump there.

722
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: It was the nineteen out of nowhere. I didn't know

723
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: that he wasn't counted in the first one. But that

724
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: was a good job by you. I think you were

725
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: ahead of things. I love that fit for the Jets.

726
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: They just traded justin fields away and it was a

727
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: reminder how little they've done on offense during this free

728
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: agency period. They've signed all these older veterans on defense,

729
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: five or six starters, but on offense all they did

730
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: was trade for Gino Smith. They signed Dylan param at guard,

731
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: and man they need I would say at least one

732
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: more wide receiver there.

733
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Although Ady Mitchell looked pretty good.

734
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Talk to me about, like Omar Cooper, what you like

735
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: about him and that fit with that?

736
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like him a lot, and I you know,

737
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: I actually have him over Jordan Tyson. I just think

738
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: he's stronger. I think he's tougher. He's not quite as

739
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: dynamic in terms of, you know, some of the releases

740
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: and some of the stuff at the top of the route.

741
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: But he's really good there. He can play above the

742
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: rim and go get it. He plays bigger than his size.

743
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: He refuses to be tackled. He is super, super tough.

744
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: And when I go back and look at, you know,

745
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: the receiver position over the last however many drafts. I

746
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: did this study last year. I was like trying to

747
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: find what are the what are some of the things

748
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: that they share in common and why they've been successful.

749
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: And I came back to toughness, and so I think

750
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: toughness is an underrated thing when you're evaluating that position.

751
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: I love how tough he is. So Garrett Wilson can

752
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: give me all the flash and the you know, the

753
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: creative route running, and Omar Cooper's you know, you're going

754
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: to use him to complement that with just kind of

755
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: a more rugged style of play.

756
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you Breese Hall, Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, Ady Mitchell,

757
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: who I still have some stock in. I bought it,

758
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: you know when he got traded, and I think he

759
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: came through for the most part for the Jets is

760
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: showing some potential Mason Taylor that that's not a bad group,

761
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: that's a fun group.

762
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: You can I give you a preview into the future.

763
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, it's gonna be I'm gonna I'm

764
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: gonna predict that this is going to be a hot

765
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: topic of conversation and it'll probably I'm guessing it'll kick

766
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: off in the summer and definitely into the college football

767
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: season in the fall. It's not me, but I'm just

768
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: telling you there's going to be the discussion of will

769
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: the Manning family allow Arch to play for the Jets?

770
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: Like that's going to be the that's the Jets have

771
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: three first round picks. We assume the Jets are not

772
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: going to be very good again next year, they're going

773
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: to be in the mix in that range. And whether

774
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 3: it's the Jets or maybe it ends up being another team,

775
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: but just because of the elis the Eli thing, you

776
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: know when he was coming out with the Charters and

777
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: the Giants, that's gonna be that's just such a talk

778
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: radio like low hanging fruit. That's That'll be a story,

779
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: is what I'm predicting. That'll be a story.

780
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that low because there's precedent, you know,

781
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: But can't you just being yes, No, I think you're right.

782
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I think I think it's fair and I wouldn't blame

783
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: the Mannings for getting in the mix. The problem is

784
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: you got you got to find out who actually has

785
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: those picks and if he actually is going to get

786
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: drafted that high. But you're right, I mean, the the

787
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: draft isn't all fair, and so if if the players

788
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: can exert a little control like like Archie did back

789
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: in the day, kind of a slate to your to

790
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: your hometown there of San Diego.

791
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: Well it worked out great. I mean they got Philip.

792
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: It worked.

793
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: They got Philip Rivers plus a bunch of picks. I

794
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: think it was a good trade. They got a better quarterback.

795
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: Giants fans don't want to hear it. I take Philip

796
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: Rivers any day.

797
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: That's all they go. That's my little sidebar, right, But

798
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: don't you think like I would be willing.

799
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's happening. It'll happen, because whatever.

800
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Team's at the top, it's probably not coming off of

801
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: a history of success, whether it's I'm just trying to

802
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: think of the teams that would be that. The Cardinals,

803
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: the Titan Titans obviously are hoped to be better, the Jets.

804
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: We'll see, Casey concepts you own. If Omar Cooper's having

805
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: a moment, maybe the receiver out of Texas A and

806
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: m is as well plus thirteen picks. He was the

807
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: last pick. The last time he did this did make

808
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: your mock draft. This time he's nineteen to Carolina. I

809
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: like this too because their lack of weapons stands out

810
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: to me. They have not really done anything in free agency.

811
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: What kind of receiver is he?

812
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: Real dynamic? You know, if you just want to look

813
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: at guys getting off the line of scrimmage quickness, you

814
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: look at what he does his reial transition after the

815
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: catch and then just like explode. He's got And I

816
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: was kind of surprised when I was told like where

817
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: he would be running time wise, because I thought this

818
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: guy's going to run like low four threes. And I

819
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: don't think that's necessarily the case. But he plays super fast.

820
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: Issue has been the drops. He had seven drops last year.

821
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: If not for the drops, we're probably talking about him

822
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: in this range. And because of that, you're talking about

823
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: most people think he's a late one, early two. But

824
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 3: in this case, this was again I always work with different,

825
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: you know, theories when I'm doing this thing, and this

826
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: was my thought exercise here. You could say the Caroline

827
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: Panthers off of a playoff, your number one goal is

828
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: to get back to the postseason. I would argue, if

829
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: that's one A, one B has to be able to

830
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: be able to make a confident call on Bryce Young,

831
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: and so I want to put the resources in place

832
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: where there's no guesswork. We've seen what's happened in this

833
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: free agency cycle on bad bets on quarterbacks and not

834
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: having the proper evaluation on your guy. That's that can

835
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: be difficult to navigate around. So I just think, to me,

836
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: they need to put the pieces in place where one

837
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: way or the other, you know, hopefully it works out great,

838
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: he plays great and we're confident in him and off

839
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: we go, or you look at it and say, man,

840
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: we've given him everything and the play didn't tick up.

841
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: So that's why I went with the weapon.

842
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: And they've spent big money on defense with Devin Lloyd,

843
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips. They did bring in Rashid Walker, so I

844
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: think that's going to help their evaluation of Pryce Young.

845
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: While you have your franchise left tackle u Kanmu coming

846
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: back from an injury, you get a better evaluation with

847
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: Walker at left tackle. But the weapons, I was a

848
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: little surprised at the combine when I asked, you know,

849
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: their their brain trust, including Dan Morgan about receiver, and

850
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: they were like, well, you know, we haven't given up

851
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: on Xavier Lagette, and we think Coker is going to develop.

852
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: And I got the sense, Okay, maybe I do too,

853
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: but I got the sense in free agency they weren't

854
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: going to go there, and they didn't. And they also say, well,

855
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: we're going to get you know, at running back, you know, healthier.

856
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: We're going to say goodbye to to Rico Daubtle. I

857
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: just they could use a little more juice. I don't

858
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: know if they're going to be able to make that.

859
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: That's where That's where I went there, all right.

860
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: So Caden Procter was another guy who moved up into

861
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: your mock draft. He was not picked last time Alabama.

862
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: The Eagles take him at twenty three. That was the

863
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: kind of the last riser that really stuck out to

864
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: me as a guy who I think fits the mold

865
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: for what the Eagles like in terms of big, strong and.

866
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: Fast, and the Eagles address needs a year ahead of time.

867
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: So Lane Johnson's back, but I don't know, you can't

868
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: count on him to run out there for seventeen weeks.

869
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: So it gives us some coverage there and also gives

870
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: us the guy for the future. They've done that forever

871
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: as always trying to get ahead of their needs. So

872
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: that's why I had him going there. And he is

873
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: one that you know, he's got a wide range maybe

874
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: of any of the tackles and some of these guys

875
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: I would say, not alone in that. But if you

876
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: told me that Proctor was the fourteenth pick or the

877
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: you know, thirty fourth pick, I think that's it's in

878
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: this draft. That's kind of what we have.

879
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Kind of pick whatever you like at that position. The

880
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: other day. Yeah, a lot of contents.

881
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so new names in your mock and everyone should

882
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: just go to NFL dot com.

883
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: See I didn't read him off in the end. We

884
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: don't need to.

885
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: It's an audio medium. At the end of the mock,

886
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: you had Cashius Howell from A and M going twenty

887
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: six to the Bills. That's an interesting one. The Texans

888
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: who still need offensive line help even though they have

889
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: signed a number of players, with a lot of people

890
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of people out chased. Besides just from

891
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: A and M goes there at twenty eight. Caden McDonald,

892
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle, is now in your mock going to

893
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots. At thirty one, and then the Seahawks take

894
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: Jendarian Price, a second running back in the first round.

895
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I feel like this would drive Seahawks fans like a

896
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: little crazy if they took a running back in the

897
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: first round.

898
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're in a pretty good position where

899
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: they can kind of see how it falls. But I

900
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: would say that, you know, as of we're recording this,

901
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't think they've really done anything. And they've got

902
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: sharbon Ay coming off injury, so they need her back.

903
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: And in this draft, in my opinion as I see it,

904
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: there's a huge drop off after Price, so you've got

905
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: love a little bit of a gap Price. Then to me,

906
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: there's a sizeable like a full round gap before you

907
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 3: get to the next group of guys.

908
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: They did pick up Emmanuel Wilson over the weekend. I

909
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: know you're you're busy, you're at the library with the family,

910
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: so you know you're trying to get back ademics.

911
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: So you missed, you missed the Emmanuel Wilson signing.

912
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that will prevent them from doing anything,

913
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: but I think a nice kind of depth I for them.

914
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with the guys that you know you

915
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 1: probably broke their agent's heart. Maybe them too if they're

916
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: locked in, you kicked them out of your mock draft.

917
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: It's a big responsibility you have. I don't envy you

918
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: with that.

919
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: Keldrick Falk is the one that really stands Out'm gonna

920
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: list the five guys who are no longer in your mock,

921
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: but I do want to hear you talk about folk

922
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: Falk what you had a nineteenth last time around.

923
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: He's now out.

924
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Denzel Boston, who feels like just consensus wise, is falling

925
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's out of this mock. You had

926
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: him twenty first last time. Peter Woods, the defensive tackle

927
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: from Clemson. Malachi Fields, who you had in the mid

928
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: twenties to Buffalo last time from Notre Dame is now

929
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: out of the mock. Lee Hunter and Zion Young are

930
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: both not in this mock. That that would be pretty surprising.

931
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: I think if you finished with Rich Charles and everything

932
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: on Day one and there's no Keldric Falk on the

933
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: NFL network coverage.

934
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a tricky one because he's a real He's

935
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: kind of a smooth mover, like of a he's not twitchy,

936
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: so in other words, he's six', five he's, long he's

937
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: got this ideal, body he's. YOUNG i think he only

938
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: had two sacks this, year so the production wasn't. Great

939
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: and then it's kind of a, tweener you, know is

940
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: he undersize? Three is he just kind of a bigger?

941
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: Edge how much pure you know juice does he have

942
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: coming off the. Edge so he's and he's by all,

943
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: accounts is a phenomenal kid who's like they rave about

944
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: him at the. School i've talked to teams that he's played,

945
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: against coaches that think he's the best player they played.

946
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: Against so he's one of those ones where it hasn't

947
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: all matched to What i've seen with my. Eyes so, look,

948
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: you IF i told you that The cowboys took him at,

949
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: TWELVE i wouldn't be. SHOCKED i, mean IF i look

950
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: at WHERE i have him on my top, fifty he's

951
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: probably in the early. Thirties maybe where is he at?

952
00:42:53,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: HERE i have him at fulk is thirty. Two so,

953
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean literally he's on the borderline for me

954
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: of you, know is he a first round? Pick is

955
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: he not a first round? Pick but he's he's a tricky.

956
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: One like there's some guys that are just if you're

957
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: with the team and you know exactly how you're going

958
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: to use him and he fits, us like you could

959
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: sell that when you're in a generic spot That i'm,

960
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: in it's LIKE i don't know exactly where he.

961
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Fits so do you want to edit out the like

962
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: ten seconds he went looking up your ranking of, him

963
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: or do you want them to like clean that up

964
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: make you look?

965
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 3: Better, NO i don't think It's i'm not ashamed THAT

966
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: i haven't memorized WHERE i have these guys on my. List,

967
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: no but people are.

968
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: Listening it's an audio, medium but they could be they

969
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: could be At.

970
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah they're they're beating at there along for the. Journey

971
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 3: if I've i'm doing this on the phone with Guys

972
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: i'm talking to all the, time or on the. League,

973
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: hey where you have this? Guy hold on just a,

974
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: second and you know what the gms and assistant gms

975
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: and head COACHES i talked to don't seem to have

976
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: a problem with the. Delay But, GREG Whoa greg's precious.

977
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: TIME i don't want to waste.

978
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i just wish you would allow that that

979
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: song you're, saying what's it called? Again that that was

980
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: the uncomfortable, one if a maybe SOMETHING.

981
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking, ABOUT a tough, one

982
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: what you're referencing? There CAN i? Leave CAN i? Leave?

983
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: YES i think we're. Done we're done, here forties and free.

984
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: Agents we are in your ears every Single tuesday up

985
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: until the.

986
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: DRAFT i cannot wait for next.

987
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: Year