WEBVTT - Drive Time: Free Agent and Prospect Film Session 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.960 To on the move, going deep speeds peas Dolls from 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:10.400 the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Help Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.680 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.440 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.400 What is up, Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.200 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.440 we are going to pivot into some more college We're 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:40.840 going to talk some draft prospects. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.000 But first, before. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.920 Any of that, I have some thoughts on the extension 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.479 for Raheem Moster, I have some thoughts on the quarterback 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.560 scouting industry as it were. And we're also going to 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.560 talk about the great article from Jordan rod Reek and 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.520 again finish up with some prospects I have not yet 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.000 touched on. All of that and more from the Baptist 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.360 Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:09.360 the Drivetime Podcast. Today's show, we are going to get 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.720 deep into the weeds. It might read a little bit 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.480 like an All twenty two Tuesday episode from in season 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:20.160 Drive Time because full transparency, my boy little Camboy had 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.920 the flu this past week and I was confined to 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.080 working from home at the end of last week, so 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.039 all I really got to do was just watch tape. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.800 And I know, I know what was me. You watch 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.600 football for a living. But I wanted to go take 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.600 a look at Johnny Smith because I had a chance 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.920 to get to more of his tape here. But also 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.679 with regards to the college prospects, I have told you 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.000 guys about some of the same players, and that kind 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.440 of was because I was put on pause when freegency 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.080 came up for the last month and a half or so, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.320 and now I want to pivot and get into more 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.559 prospects we haven't looked at just yet, because I found 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.240 some guys here that, gosh, I think there's a lot 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.160 of a lot of great fits for the Miami Dolphins. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.600 In fact, at pick twenty one and fifty five as 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:02.000 it were right now, I would say there's probably four 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.520 players at three different positions at each of those two 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.040 draft pick spots that I like. And that's probably before 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:09.640 I've eve ben done half the class so far. So 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.519 I want to dive into that. But I want to 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.799 start here with our own a guy that I am 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.520 absolutely fired up about, running back Raheem Moster, agreeing to 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.200 a two year extension that puts some guarantees in his 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.720 contract that guarantees he will be here this year and 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.320 most likely in twenty twenty five. You never know what 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.000 could happen the National Football League, but he has the 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.440 contract extension and what a weekend it must have been 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.959 for Raheem. And I'm sure you guys saw the photos 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.360 on social of him with his family, and to me, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.160 those photos just kind of speak to who Raheem mostert is. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.799 Always has a smile on his face, always always has 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.280 time for you. I'll never forget walking across the locker 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.200 room this past season and just like you know, chopping 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.680 it up with him and he has time to stop 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.200 and talk to you. Or after all of those running 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.880 back rumors this summer about Miami being in tow to 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.799 acquiring whoever it might have been, right, Jonathan Taylor's the 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.959 name that comes to mind the most, but he answered 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.200 questions and was just upfront and how to smile on 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.560 his face the entire time. But mostly it's because he 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.840 embodies what it is to be a family man as 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.120 a father of two. Myself, I thought it was just 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.760 awesome to see his gorgeous family all here to celebrate 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.280 the extension with the Dolphins. And in South Florida, because again, 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.720 what a weekend that must be. You come on Saturday morning, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.679 you sign your contract, and then you go home and 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.200 it's like, oh, we just booked a bank a whole 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.920 bunch more cash. These next couple of years must be 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.840 a good time to be a moster right now. But 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.120 of course, how about the football man? Like I tweeted 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.920 out the numbers from Pro Football Focus, three point three 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.440 five yards after initial contact was second among running backs 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.400 who had at least two hundred carries this past season. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.440 It was six among backs with one hundred carries. And 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.840 I think those thresholds should tell you something, because go 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.120 look at the list. There's just not that many running 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.200 backs getting over two hundred carries anymore, especially with their 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.640 involvement in the passing game. But raheem on the other 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.360 side of age thirty, which runs and corners, right, they 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.440 tend to fall off a cliff at that age, He's 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.280 become the most durable on top of by far the 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.960 most productive version of himself. It's been one of the 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.320 more fascinating things to watch unfold the last few years 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.040 here with the Miami Dolphins. What else is nice about 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.160 that is we know we have in Devon hn Right, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.320 there is the cat is out of the bag on 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.440 this young man from Texas A and M. He only 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.719 played in earnest ten games last year. Did play an eleventh, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.480 but that was the Week two game against the Patriots 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.560 where he had two touches on six snaps. I don't 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.520 really count that as a full game played. I mean, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.880 you know, with the rotation we want because whoever, just 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.120 whatever you want to run works for me, because whoever's 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.800 getting the football there, it works like keep it as is, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.520 I don't care have Devon return kickoffs to kind of 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.560 make up for the workload there. Maybe maybe you make 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.560 it more fifty to fifty among those two. Maybe it's 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.480 a sixty forty split for Devon and Raheem moster, there 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.400 isn't to me a bad option. And continuing on the stats, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.960 he forced fifty three miss tackles last year. That was 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.840 eighth most among running backs. He was fifth most in 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.840 runs of ten plus in the National Football League. But 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.440 I also mentioned this and wanted to save this detail 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.200 for the podcast. There's not a more complex creative running 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.960 game in the football world, college, pro or otherwise. You know, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.080 Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan. I will hear your arguments, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.240 Big Red and Kyle I'm a nickname for Kyle Shanahan. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.880 But that's where the competition ends, right. The run game 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.400 changes every single week, and you can watch it. If 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.480 you're part of the media and you know what you're 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.040 looking for, you can come out here and watch the 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.240 pre practice handoff routines because it changes. There's layers on 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.080 layers that ties into the passing game, with the misdirection, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.719 with the play action game obviously, and you've heard players 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.880 talk about this very candidly to coaches on video after 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.839 the game. Max Crosby on Hard Knocks telling Mike McDaniel 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.760 preparing for your offense was exhausting, bro, Max Crosby, probably 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.360 the best pass rush of the National Football League last year. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.320 And who someone said something later on in the year two. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.719 I forget who it was or what game, but just 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.240 basically said, like, you guys suck to get ready for 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.240 This is a lot of work for us. But it's 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.200 all that eye candy for defensive lineman, for linebackers, and 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.000 again how that marries up with emotions and the play 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.400 action game. To me, I just love what we're gonna 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.080 get here. From a continuity standpoint, like we see this 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.640 all the time. A guy plays, has a bad season, 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.440 maybe plays a bad game. You start thinking about that's 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.640 the spot they have to replace next year. We can 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.680 get better at that spot because he played a bad 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.040 game or had a bad couple of games. Like, I 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.200 get the desire to look at it that way and 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.920 to approach it that way, But typically speaking, the best 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.640 improvement you can get is from your own guys improving 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.120 for the most part, right Like, don't get me wrong, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.760 getting Tyreek hill Is does not count towards that equation, 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.039 nor does Aglen Ramsey for that matter. But like an 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.200 Austin Jackson to Toungo Bai Lowa, these are big time, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.880 you know, draft prospects that saw their game grow and 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.840 get better. And that's why this offense was still dan 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.720 good the last two years because your quarterback got really 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.520 good all of a sudden. I mean, he wasn't bad 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.240 and twenty two one, but it just got a lot 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.520 better than twenty twenty two. So I love the idea 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.120 that you have this continuity and every year you spend 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.760 together it's gonna get better. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.080 Full transparency. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.440 I just had my year review on the podcast and 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.080 was told this was the best year you had yet. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:13.640 Why is that? 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.160 Because I've learned a lot about this job, how to 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.240 cover the team in the role that I have, and 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.040 my own perfection of my own craft. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.160 Like, I totally agree with that. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.120 So I think you can apply that in your profession, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.320 in your life as a parent, as a father, or 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.440 a as a spouse, like whatever the case may be. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.480 You can find improvement as you go along with stuff. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.000 And that's no different in the game of football. So 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.960 I just love the fact that it's the same play caller, quarterback, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.280 running back, And do not forget this often forgotten, but 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.720 such an integral part of the team. The fullback alec 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.600 Ingold is Raheem's eyes to the whole, he said as 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.720 much an interview as I talked about him with that 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.880 and that second year of continuity last year with alec Ingold, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.960 he talked about how important that was to have that 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.880 continuity with Ingold in front of him where he mostered. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.920 So year three for those guys, second year for Devon, 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.840 Savon Akman been here since I've been here. Year five 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.840 now Chris Brooks is back. Hefe heading into year three like. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:05.880 That's a big deal. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.960 There's not a lot of offensive turnover here besides some 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.200 parts of the offensive line where it got a little 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.720 bit too expensive, but you get the whole concept. In 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.320 those spots we can This is a different debate for 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.320 a different day, but those are spots that in the 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.559 past in this offense have not required massive investments, which 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.880 makes sense at tracks right. Those investments go to your quarterback, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.720 your playmakers, and maybe the tackle spot, but then on 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:28.520 defense as well. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.560 So again, big congrats to Raheem Moster. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.560 Twenty one touchdowns a year ago, twenty one times hitting 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.800 the waves in the end zone, a franchise record, And 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.600 just real quick, I do have a small grievance to 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.560 get off my chest because I saw Jason Sarney, a 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.320 Dolphins fan of some fame, on social media comparing this 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.560 backfield to the backfield of the nineteen seventies and getting 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:54.280 some flack in return for that comment. Normally I'm one 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.560 to say, let's not be a prisoner of the moment, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.000 but I've noticed this a lot with Tua. Also, the 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.720 excusing of these gaudy statistics. Twenty one touchdowns that happened. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.320 That's a lot of touchdowns. That's more than one touchdown 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.760 per game. That is a franchise record that is not 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.320 quite on the fringe, but it's approaching Ladinion, Tomlinson and 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:19.960 Shawn Alexanderan's territory. That's ridiculous. And all Sarny was saying 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.920 is that they have been more productive and you can't 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.679 argue with that. And someone mentioned this to me on 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.480 Twitter today, like I want to see the Dolphins run 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.360 the ball thirty five forty times a game, Like that's 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.800 not that's not plausible, that's not feasible at all, because, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.679 first of all, if you're in the ball forty times 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.280 a game, you would have had one hundred and forty 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.360 more rushing attempts than what Baltimore did at five point 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.120 forty one, which was most in the National Football League. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.480 And do you think you get a top five success 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.360 right rush in the football? Do you think you get 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.800 the six most rushing yards in the National Football League? 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.880 Do you think you have the number one yards per 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.480 carry in the NFL? If you don't have the balance 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.280 that you have achieved under Mike McDaniel. It's one of 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.320 my biggest gripes is this whole run the ball more concept, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.160 like we throw the because we have Tyreek khiljilnwaddle and 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.400 to a tonguea bai loa. It's not a bad option 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.640 to go towards those guys that win the majority of 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.280 their reps. It's okay to acknowledge that this running game 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.120 is awesome. The Raheem Mostert last year was awesome, and 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.360 that it compares to some of the grandpas that your 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.960 grandpa used to watch. Okay, it's okay to acknowledge that 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.080 sorny tip of the cap to you for going there 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.840 and fighting the good fight there. Speaking of fighting the 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.720 good fight, we'll go ahead and close up segment one 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.760 with this discussion. Do you guys want to talk about 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:33.560 TUA and some fighting back against the industry? If you will, well, 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.160 I do it like once a month. I know you 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.640 guys like the rant on here, let's go ahead and 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.400 fired up. Do I have a song? No, I don't 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.000 have a song for it yet. Maybe it's time to 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:45.200 get a song for the rants. So this we're going 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.760 to talk about some college prospects on this show today. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.520 And in doing this and watching some tape, I'm starting 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.959 to watch some more quarterbacks. And here I'll lay it 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.640 out this way for you guys, there is not a 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.000 tape of a prospect this year. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.520 Maybe they'll get better. They probably will. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.720 There's not a single tape of a guy who's on 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.720 the same planet right now as to a tongue by Lowa. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.280 It's not close and you're gonna say, well, try it. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.800 He's in year five versus a Rockie quarterback. Yeah, but 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.440 go back to two. Was Alabama tape and there's flashes 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.720 of what he does now on that tape. More than flashes. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.920 That's who he's been his whole career. I always I 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.400 talked about this a million times. There was a rep 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.640 against LSU the year before the Borough game, so it 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.560 was the prior year. Both teams were top five, top rinked, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.520 top five, and I think Alabama shut them out. But 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.400 there was like a five yard speed out against against 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.360 press coverage and a third and four and Tua like 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.360 does all these pre snap checks at Lanska image and 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.800 finds a boundary receiver with a speed out against the 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.480 one guy in off coverage and he just hits the 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.080 back foot in rhythm on time, puts this ball on 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.680 the outside shoulder located up around the face mask, away 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.360 from the defender, and it converts Like that's the kind 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.679 of layup gimme that he gets to and find and 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.719 can exploit with his precision and accuracy and timing and 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.400 footwork and all the stuff that combines his game what 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.960 makes him great. In that one rep, and I watched 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.760 it a million times. I loved how the hip turn was, 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.079 how the drive and the like everything about that rep. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.720 I was like, this, dude is a freaking quarterback. He's 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.680 not a throw over the football. He's a freaking quarterback. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.000 And you like, Tua had that pro polish in his 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.440 quarterback tape, And maybe this is an indictment on where 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.079 college football is, where prospects are in terms of all 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.679 these seven on seven camps and you know, playing against 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:28.600 routes on air whatever it may be. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:29.960 Watch the tape of. 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.280 These guys if you know how to watch tape, which 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:33.800 that's you know, a tall order. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.199 I understand that, But. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:42.559 Dude, nobody, nobody is close to the prism that Tua 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.880 is operating with him right now in terms of anticipation, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.960 attacking the middle of the field and exploiting saft spots 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.839 and coverage with leverage and the anticipation. These guys are 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.400 point and shoot throw to the perimeter. Let's go ahead 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.760 and utilize this high end arm talent we do have. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.720 And that's where you know TUA doesn't have this big 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.480 rocket arm to the perimeter. Can acknowledge that all day long. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.959 But I don't want that in lieu of the other 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.040 stuff that matters way more. Go watch, for instance, Michael Pennix. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:08.959 Have you guys actually watched his tape? 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:09.120 Now? 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.920 I like Michael Penix, probably more than most Kyle crabs 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.920 can tell you don't like him at all, But go 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.679 watch Michael Pennock's tape. There is not a single anticipation 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.320 throw over the middle of the field. It is taking 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.000 advantage of one on one mismatches on the perimeter and 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.200 throwing the ball vertical. There's no real feel for pressure 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.400 at the middle. There's no real ability step into pressure 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.920 and take a hit and throw accurate football on mesh Like. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.720 I saw this route that Kyle sent me where he's 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.080 running meshiganst. Texas and he steps up out into a 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.840 clean pocket and just sails this five yard drag route 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.360 like over the top of his head. It is consistent 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.720 misses with this whole entire class. Go watch JJ McCarthy 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.840 and the timing on his routes and the rhythm that 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.439 he plays with and these you know, big time arm 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.720 throws of the perimeter. He can't make those either. But 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.160 show me some anticipation in the middle of the field, 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.280 show me understanding of coverage and how it bends and 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.520 how it moves. And there's just none of that. And 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.520 I see this on Twitter, and this is for you know, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.160 amateurs and fans that reply on Twitter, this isn't for them. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:04.720 This is not for those people, because I saw the 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.480 reply of like you know, they were getting after jtos 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.160 Sullivan for going on the Bootleg Football podcast with bretton 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.280 ne J. The best content in the world. Will always 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.880 stand by that with bretton ne J and jtos Sullivan, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:18.120 who does the best quarterback content? 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:18.680 From my mind? 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.480 And people are like saying, well, look at his draft, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.200 his his draft rankings record in his history, Like okay, dude, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.880 you can separate the polish and the end result from 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.400 the content itself and find out what JT's teaching you 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.440 from the quarterback position, or you can just say he 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.360 got that wrong, don't listen to him next, Like you're 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.040 not gonna learn if you do that, And so you 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.040 go back and watch that and he talks about this 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.720 with Caleb Williams, like, yeah, there's these decorated splash plays 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:41.240 down the field. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.080 Or rather it was Drake May. I apologize, it was 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:43.760 all about Drake May. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.200 Every game he makes these polished downfield throws that are like, Wow, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.800 that's big time football, and I love that. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:49.880 Who doesn't love that? 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.600 That's why I loved about Jordan Love and Josh Allen 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:53.280 when he came out. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.560 But then he talks about. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.440 How there are these egregious layup misses where he's not seeing, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.440 he's not processing, he's not timing, he's not in rhythm 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.120 every single quarter of every single game. It's it's just 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.760 not like a first round prospect there. And the repliers 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.440 are like, he's just this guy's don't understand projecting scouts 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.160 or projecting players their highest level. It's like, because you 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:11.960 have to see them play quarterback on tape to be 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.840 able to think they can play quarterback on tape, Like 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.920 you're taking a total gamble if you haven't seen that before. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.120 And there was that with Jordan Love, and there was 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.920 that with Josh Allen. You just didn't watch the tape 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.800 the right way. Because there was like a lot of 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.040 turnovers right like or the wiving offense didn't score enough points, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.280 Like you're not looking in the right places. And so 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.560 when I think about how quarterbacks are evaluated and how 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.880 they're viewed upon by the COGNESCENTI like the fan. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:35.480 I get it. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.360 There's the whole concept of like big arm throwball far, 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.880 but where it really bothers me because like you know, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.120 the ringer, Steve Reese whatever his name is, like I get, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:49.760 I get his shortcut because to actually learn football requires 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.960 a lot of work opposed to big arm throw far. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:58.280 But like, man, there was a throw that with Spencer 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.760 Ratler on like a little naked bootleg, a little play 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.640 action naked boot down on the goal line and the 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:09.080 flat the curl flat receiver puts himself on the goal 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.960 line with five yards of separation, and Rattler's mechanics are 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.920 all funky. The ball goes to the back shoulder and 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:15.760 it leads him into a tackle and it should have 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.240 been a walk in, walk in touchdown and it turns 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.400 into a one yard gain for a second goal. Play 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.440 Like if you miss that throw, I can't, I can't. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.880 I just can't do it with you you can't play 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.400 the position. We have to be on target in rhythm 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.280 on these layups, and these quarterbacks are not that. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:31.560 Bro. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.440 I don't care about the big splash plays if you 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.000 can't fundamentally execute a layup and go play defense on 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.880 the other side, Like, we have to have these things 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.560 non negotiables. And so I just get so tired of 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.320 the quarterback industry raving about these big arms, these highlight 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.120 throws and just completely ignoring the mundane that wins. 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:51.160 The mundane that is. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.720 What you occupy yourself with eighty five percent of your dropbacks. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.120 And so the whole conversation I wanted to get to 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.680 was like, I go back to Nate Tice, a great, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.680 great football mind who works for The Athletic and Yahoo 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.720 Do is a great podcast with Robert Mays and the Athletic. 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.400 He's talked about this, how well, the thing that makes 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.600 Caleb Williams win is not all the off schedule razzle dazzle. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.520 It's the winning in the middle of the field in anticipation. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.840 He's got all that. That's what Nate Tye says, and 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.840 then he says, by I love Drake May because big arm, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.520 throw ball far and it's like, did you ignore all 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.639 the other stuff we just talked about, because you should 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.720 know this, you know what wins the guy hates on 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.880 Tua all the time. I just think it's like been 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.240 embedded with this and Nate not even younger than me, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.359 but this like younger crowd of football. You know, air 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.920 quote analysts. I use that for Steve Reese. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:35.280 Not for Nate Tys. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.159 Nate Tys knows what the hell he's talking about, but 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.000 it just it drives me crazy because we have a 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.160 league where, you know, Michael Pennox can take these vertical 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.320 shots against single high coverage in college football because they 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.560 still run that shell or that coverage, I should say, 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.240 But in the NFL, when they play these three high 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.240 shells or you know, two deep coverages or two man coverages, 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.359 like you have to win in the middle of the 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.520 field because teams will take away all the other stuff 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.760 and force you to do that. And that's why Tua 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.920