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Speaker 2: All right, Sam, let's get in today's story. My husband

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Speaker 2: is going on a dinner date with his ex. Nothing

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Speaker 2: could go wrong. They're just catching up. Nothing's ever gone

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Speaker 2: wrong in this context.

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Speaker 4: My husband, Jack male thirty six, used to date Emma

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Speaker 4: female thirty four four years. They broke up because Jack

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Speaker 4: didn't want to get married or have kids. Emma moved

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Speaker 4: away in about a month later, Jack met me, female

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Speaker 4: thirty I don't look like the typical girls Jack had

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Speaker 4: been dating for example, Emma is super tall, blonde with

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Speaker 4: blue eyes and has a PhD.

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Speaker 2: I'm petite, one hundred and ten pounds.

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Speaker 4: In short, I'm a nurse, I have dark curly hair,

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Speaker 4: and I'm an introvert.

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Speaker 2: Apparently she was a social butterfly.

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Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from user rebound dork one

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Speaker 4: two three four five on the Best of redditor Updates subreddit.

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Speaker 4: Jack has a group of friends that he's known since childhood.

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Speaker 4: They are like brothers to him, but from the very

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Speaker 4: beginning they didn't like me. Ooh, red flag, big red flag.

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Speaker 4: That is a red flag.

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Speaker 2: They still call me the rebound girl. Stopt here, stop

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Speaker 2: absolutely not what At our wedding during his best man's speech,

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Speaker 2: he joked, we all thought.

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Speaker 4: Rebound girls were temporary, but our brother Jack made an

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Speaker 4: honest woman out of her.

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Speaker 2: I would kick those people out of my wedding. What

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Speaker 2: are you serious, rebound girls?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I understand like a rebound is like oh la la

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Speaker 2: la la la. You do what you have to do,

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Speaker 2: get over it. But a person that is in the

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Speaker 2: rebuls on time frame can become a dunk, a slam dunk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and a slam dunk everybody laughed.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. They also joked that I'm just a nurse

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Speaker 2: and that Jack downgraded since he has a PhD and

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Speaker 2: technically postdoctoral from a doctor to just a nurse. Dude,

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Speaker 2: just walk up and leave. Get out of there.

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Speaker 5: What where's he?

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Speaker 2: Where's the husband?

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Speaker 4: Standing up and being like, hey, guys, shut up, this

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Speaker 4: isn't a roast battle. Yeah, this is what I already

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Speaker 4: for my own sanity. I ignore them, and Jack still

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Speaker 4: hangs out with them regularly. Last weekend there was a

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Speaker 4: fundraising gala and Emma was there. I saw her for

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Speaker 4: I know who she is. The guys weren't kidding when

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Speaker 4: they described her haha. Jack quickly changed the topic and

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Speaker 4: asked how long she was in town. She said for

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Speaker 4: a week, and then they ended up chatting all night

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Speaker 4: reminiscing about old times. I decided to talk to other people. O. God,

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Speaker 4: you guys in high school still guys, not grow up.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get out of there.

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Speaker 4: Later, at bedtime, Jack mentioned that he should go out

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Speaker 4: to dinner with Emma.

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Speaker 2: That's a great idea. I love that, m That's so

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Speaker 2: good for you. Too. Yeah, that's great. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: on a date with my ex.

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Speaker 4: I assumed he meant inviting her over, so I asked

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Speaker 4: He said no, it would just be the two of them.

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Speaker 4: I asked, like a date and he replied, no, just

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Speaker 4: two friends going to dinner. Why are you so insecure?

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Speaker 4: I asked him. Do you miss her? Do you miss

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Speaker 2: Girl.

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Speaker 4: Leave, girl, Beeve, I hope you had a prenup with

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Speaker 4: this doctor who used you as a punchline at y'all's wedding.

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Speaker 2: Leave and take everything you can from this guy. This

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Speaker 2: is like what not to say when talking is your ex.

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Speaker 2: You don't say these things. This guy's the worst.

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Speaker 4: I think we might have one of our first candidates

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Speaker 4: for deep space. Like throwing this guy at deep throwing

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Speaker 4: people under the sun. Anymore, we're sending him out.

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Speaker 2: Into deep space, into the ord cloud.

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Speaker 4: After he said that, oh, he says, I got really

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Speaker 4: but if he goes on this dinner date, I'm done. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he thinks I'm overreacting and being insecure.

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Speaker 2: What will you see it? You just got a boundary

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Speaker 2: and you told him, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Am I the a hole that my husband is planning

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Speaker 4: to go on a dinner date with a long term

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Speaker 4: X and then there is an update. I don't think

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Speaker 4: you're being an a hole. I think your husband is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, come on, dude, come on, I'm okay with

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Speaker 2: a dinner date with the X if the wife is

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Speaker 2: there exactly and the wife is comfortable with exactly. You

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Speaker 2: can't just keep your wife on the outside of that experience.

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Speaker 2: Like what? Like what? That's crazy? Let's get into this update.

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Speaker 4: It is four forty five AM, and I didn't sleep

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Speaker 4: last night. I thought i'd post an update. I decided

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Speaker 4: to stay awake and talk to him when he came home.

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Speaker 4: I told him I could have tracked your location, shown

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Speaker 4: up at the restaurant, and done so many things to

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Speaker 4: get my answer, but I'd like to believe you have

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Speaker 4: enough respect for me to tell tell me. Were you

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Speaker 4: on a dinner date with your friends or Emma. From

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Speaker 4: the sound of this, it looks like he told ope

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Speaker 2: But it could have been with Emma. And yeah, but

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Speaker 2: Emma might have been there.

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Speaker 4: He showed me pictures and said, no, it was all

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Speaker 2: Okay, I guess that's a little better.

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Speaker 4: I was stupid enough to feel relieved, even feeling bad

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Speaker 4: for accusing him. Then he told me to sit down

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Speaker 4: because we needed to talk. No, maybe he's gonna sit

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Speaker 4: was a huge of an idiot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's assume that this could only go one of

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Speaker 2: I crossed some lines. I was out of order. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I want to make it better.

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Speaker 3: You're my wife and I respect you and I love you?

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Speaker 3: And who's my ex?

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Speaker 4: He said that after seeing Emma at the gala, he

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Speaker 2: The whole day with her while I who he was

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Speaker 2: at work. What hey, they could have been talking for

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Speaker 2: two days? Yeah, two days. I'm sure they were talking.

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Speaker 2: Anything they was probably not relationship wise whatsoever. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, they would just spend two days straight with

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Speaker 3: He was probably like, my wife is amazing.

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Speaker 4: He went on about how strong their connection was, how

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Speaker 2: Felt that spark with me. Opie, I'm so sorry that

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Speaker 2: you gotta do this.

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Speaker 4: He said that at dinner, Emma was laughing and having

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, your friends suck. Oh yeah, they suck,

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Speaker 2: and so do you.

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Speaker 4: That's why he let his friends say all that stuff

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Speaker 4: with the wedding, because he was like, yeah, lo Ki

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Speaker 4: theire right, she's just my rebound wife.

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Speaker 2: Freaking idiot.

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Speaker 4: You don't marry the rebound chick if you just feel

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Speaker 4: why did you marry me if you're not over her?

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Speaker 2: He said he thought I was the one.

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Speaker 4: But these past two days made him realize there's no

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Speaker 4: someone too. I told him to shut up. I said,

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Speaker 4: Emma knew about your cancer treatments. Where was she when

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Speaker 4: you needed a friend? Oh w why didn't she ever

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Speaker 2: Damn, damn. She's like, remember when you had cancer and

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Speaker 2: she didn't care. That's the girl you want to leave

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Speaker 5: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, dude, get rid of this guy.

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, out deep space, deep space exploration.

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Speaker 2: And you can do that. Trying to do that too,

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Speaker 4: I feel stupid for ignoring all the red flags over

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Speaker 4: the years and wasting six years of my life with him.

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Speaker 4: It took this man two days to undo six years

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Speaker 4: was six years just down the drain. Wow, this guy sucks.

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Speaker 2: I'm cringing so hard right now.

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Speaker 4: My next step is hiring a lawyer and finding my

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Speaker 4: to contact my brother to help me. Thank you everyone,

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Speaker 4: And that is the end of that story. I was

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Speaker 4: hoping he'd be like, yeah, you know what, maybe I'm

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Speaker 4: just acting weird because we just got married and it's

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I'm on my ahead.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I met my ex again for two days and

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Speaker 4: now it's over between us. I'd be more inclined to

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Speaker 4: understand if it wasn't a six year relationship, if maybe

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Speaker 4: he rushed into this. People aren't perfect and they rush

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Speaker 4: like then he reconnects with his ex and he realizes,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, I got I just got married to

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Speaker 4: someone who's basically just like a friend instead of like

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Speaker 2: But six years. It took you six years? Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I feel so bad for her too, because his friends

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Speaker 2: stuff just like calling all those things. Yeah, and she

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Speaker 2: just stand out like that the husband has set up

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Speaker 2: for her exactly. That was my big red flag.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, if this dude's not standing up

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Speaker 4: for at their wedding, it's like, how are you gonna

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Speaker 4: slam dunking on her like it's a roast battle, and

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Speaker 4: there is no word of you putting an end to that.

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Speaker 6: I found my husband's secret phone. I think he's been

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Speaker 6: using it to cheats on man or he's a spy.

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Speaker 6: I'm using a throwaway for this. I found the phone

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Speaker 6: three months ago. The way I found out he was

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Speaker 6: cheating was by accident.

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Speaker 2: So he was cheating.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, so he's not a spy.

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Speaker 2: Get the contacts from there.

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Speaker 6: My husband is the one who is in charge for

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Speaker 2: I got all of my numbers.

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Speaker 6: But then I noticed that instead of just two lines

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Speaker 5: Had didn't do a good job of hiding his secret phone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not so secret, is it? Honestly, at that time

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Speaker 6: I thought nothing of it and thought maybe it was

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Speaker 5: Oh that's so sad.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, he still might be a spy. We don't know.

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Speaker 5: We did, Yeah, did we think about the spy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's spying on some other woman.

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Speaker 6: WHOA, Maybe it's both. I didn't even ask him about

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Speaker 5: She was like, yeah, this is grandma got a phone.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what made her ask, but she said,

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: I called his mom first to say hi and asked

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Speaker 5: Well, I think there was like she was very trusting

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Speaker 5: Like no, She's like, it's grandma Grandma.

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Speaker 6: I called his mom first to say hi and asked

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Speaker 5: So it's not his grandmother, so it must be a spy.

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Speaker 2: A spy. I waited for him to go to work

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Speaker 2: the next day and I looked at the account again.

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Speaker 6: I went to the phone, clicked a view usage history

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Speaker 5: About that. There are two options, spy, substance.

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Speaker 2: That's it. He doesn't cheat.

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Speaker 6: I also noticed that the times of the calls and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've never want to order the substances.

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Speaker 5: He works as a spy.

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Speaker 2: That to your house to keep this going. I'm just

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Speaker 5: He works as a spy.

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Speaker 3: It's good to know. We're going to keep this as

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Speaker 6: When I saw that, I honestly try to rationalize it

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Speaker 6: So I called my friend and told her what I saw,

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 6: I looked for it all over the house for days

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Speaker 6: it on him. I waited for him to go to

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Speaker 5: No, there's government secrets on there.

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Speaker 6: His passcode was the same passcode on his regular phone,

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Speaker 6: and I found everything. Role plays, text messages, pictures of.

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Speaker 2: Her.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's not a spy. Maybe she's the substance.

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Speaker 6: She's the spy, and the substance. Pictures of them together,

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Speaker 6: them saying I love you. Ah, he loves the spy.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird.

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Speaker 6: She sends him a good morning video message every morning,

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is awful.

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Speaker 5: I won't say, Haley, this sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds nice.

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Speaker 6: This could have been so cool if your husband was

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If this was like a mister missus Smith.

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Speaker 6: Situation, Ah, that would have been great hot too. She

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Speaker 6: sends him a good morning video message every morning, and

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Speaker 6: he's kept everyone. I was heartbroken and cried the whole night.

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Speaker 6: My friend told me to take the phone, turn all

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Speaker 6: the location tractors off, and then turn it off. The

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Speaker 6: because he was looking for it, but he couldn't ask

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's sucks. You should just start You should like

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Speaker 6: Just start messing with him, like sometimes put it there,

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Speaker 6: sometimes not Yeah, And then he's like, okay, like does

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Speaker 6: she know?

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Speaker 2: Does she not? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And never bring it up. Yeah, or actually just leave him.

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Speaker 2: Or that's yeah. You'd either like play with him or

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Speaker 6: I kept asking him what he was looking for, so

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Speaker 2: She's like, are you what are you working for? Babe? Something?

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Speaker 2: And he said a file for work. Honey. He eventually left.

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Speaker 6: I went to a park with my friend when he

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Speaker 6: marriage is alive. No, he has pretended that he cares

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Speaker 6: even describe how I felt when I found everything out.

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Speaker 6: I still haven't confronted him about it, and that's because

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's so sad to have to be there for

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Speaker 6: And why can't Why can't you share that you know

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Speaker 5: Maybe she's trying to get all over things in order,

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Speaker 6: So there is a benefit to being married to him

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Speaker 6: but I won't need that benefit anymore in a couple months.

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Speaker 6: He knows something is up because I put the phone

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Speaker 6: to the same percentage that I found it at. I

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Speaker 6: got that idea from my friend. This is spy stuff

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Speaker 6: right here. This is just so funny.

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Speaker 3: I would never think, Wow, Op was the spy all along. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He got our spy. We just need the substances.

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Speaker 6: The day he found the phone, he came into the

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Speaker 6: I've rejected every advance and he is panicking to the

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Speaker 5: Through it as he should go through more.

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Speaker 6: He also changed the password A few days later. He's

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Speaker 6: He has recommended couple's therapy because, in his words, something

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I guess so. I mean, if you can't leave

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Speaker 2: Well, why can't you tell him because you can't.

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Speaker 5: Divorce him yet. I don't know. It's financial stuff, I think,

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Speaker 5: just make him sweat.

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Speaker 2: I guess I have everything.

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Speaker 6: My friend was able to show me how to get

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Speaker 6: all the texts, video messages, pictures of them together. I

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Speaker 3: This is getting It's no longer spy stuff, this is

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, she's saying that she like she purposely

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I only took the ones where they were

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I also got the phone account usage before he locked

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Speaker 5: Me, so they both know that they know.

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Speaker 3: No, it's getting to mister and missus Smith, I know

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Speaker 3: that you know that I know.

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Speaker 2: But like, do you know?

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Speaker 5: Do you know that I know that I know?

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Speaker 6: Do you do I know that you know that I

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Speaker 2: And He's like, uh huh. Yes. In fact, it was

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Speaker 6: I also already had an STD test. I am on

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Speaker 6: his insurance, so I paid for it out of pocket

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Speaker 6: and I'm fine at number two. So I spontaneously decided

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Speaker 2: Over what I have planned and my impending divorce.

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Speaker 6: I ended up on the divorce subreddit and then found

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Speaker 6: because it made me so angry him cheating on me

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever will.

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Speaker 6: I don't care if he finds this post on here

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Speaker 6: you might as well join us live on YouTube every

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Speaker 6: weekday at three pm PST.

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Speaker 2: Just tap our profile.

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Speaker 5: Just tap it.

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Speaker 6: There's another relevant updates. But let's discuss.

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Speaker 5: Usually I'm like, peace of mind, just divorce them, get

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Speaker 5: on with it. But it does seem like there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of financial stuff going on here.

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Speaker 6: Possibly possibly something else.

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Speaker 5: Possibly. It doesn't seem like, oh he wants to let

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Speaker 5: us know. Yeah, so bacat o and says do they

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Speaker 5: have kids?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: They weren't mentioned.

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Speaker 5: I think they both know what's going on, and they're

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Speaker 5: just like not saying anything.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the update. He knows,

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Speaker 2: I know. Wow, great opening, great opening, he knows. I

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Speaker 2: know he knows.

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Speaker 6: I know he cheated, or he wouldn't be trying to

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Speaker 6: prove to me he is where he says he is

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Speaker 6: all the time. I'm just done, and thankfully I have

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Speaker 6: a friend who is helping me through this, including looking

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Speaker 6: for lawyers.

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Speaker 2: He can be with whoever he wants. I don't care.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you do care, yeah, but now you're like whatever.

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Speaker 6: The hurt is too much for me to ever care

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Speaker 6: about him again, to love him again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like this side note. Obviously this kind of funny

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Speaker 5: story because it's like, oh, he knows, But it's also like,

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, she was being cheated

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Speaker 5: on and had so much trust that she thought that

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Speaker 5: this film was his grandma's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like she was. It's not even in the possible, but.

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Speaker 5: She can't even like talk to him about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I'm only staying because I need something. Are you

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Speaker 6: gonna tell? What?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 6: I have a few more months left to go. It's

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Speaker 6: so cryptic. I don't know if I will update because

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Speaker 6: I have a long road ahead of me. But thanks

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Speaker 6: to the comments, there's not update.

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Speaker 3: I will check. I will check, I will check.

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Speaker 5: This is so annoying. This is like, is she a spy?

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Speaker 5: What do you need? I'm assuming something financial?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So update, I'm not okay, but I'm alive. Posting

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Speaker 6: this here instead of the original subreddit because it's not

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Speaker 6: much of an update. I've been getting messages on here

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Speaker 6: and notifications through my email over the last several months,

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Speaker 6: and I wanted to let you guys know that I'm alive.

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Speaker 6: There are people who were very worried and have messaged

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Speaker 6: me every single month to see if I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: I don't check this account honestly ever, but I wanted

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Speaker 6: to provide a tiny update. I've been told to not

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Speaker 6: say anything, so I won't, but I could say that

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Speaker 6: I'm currently through the divorce process.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it was started.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I thought she said it wasn't started by her,

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Speaker 6: it was. It was started by me, and that's all

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Speaker 6: I could say. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. I'm

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Speaker 6: not okay at all. I can't provide reasoning or why

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Speaker 6: right now. But I'm not okay, and Reddit is not

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Speaker 6: my therapist, so I am going to work on getting

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Speaker 6: better and getting through this divorce. I am safe, though,

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Speaker 6: and if I ever feel well enough and that I

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Speaker 6: could talk about.

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Speaker 2: This coherently, then I will update.

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Speaker 6: I don't want people waiting for an update that I

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Speaker 6: might not ever be ready to give because I am

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Speaker 6: actually going through this in my actual life. I know

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Speaker 6: I'm the one that brought this to Reddit, so I

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Speaker 6: know people are invested, but I can't right now. Basically,

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Speaker 6: I just wanted people to know I'm safe away from

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Speaker 6: my hopefully soon to be ex husband and have started

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Speaker 6: a divorce process. If anyone has tips, hobbies, et cetera

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Speaker 6: to get through this and help them, I would be

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Speaker 6: open to them. So Fio wants to recommend climbing.

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Speaker 5: Climbing climbing is the best way.

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Speaker 6: Oh wait, to get over anything. Damn that sucks so crappy.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you started the divorce process. You don't have

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Speaker 6: to like, you don't wait in the whole doing this. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I hope it goes smoothly, as smoothly as divorce

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Speaker 6: can go, and that you could come out on the

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Speaker 6: better side on that.

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Speaker 5: On the other side, my friend confessed her love for

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Speaker 5: me weeks before her wedding. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Who to tell marry her the internet.

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Speaker 5: My thirty five male friend breathe thirty five female just

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Speaker 5: told me she loves me four weeks before her marriage.

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Speaker 2: Iman, is it like friendly love?

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Speaker 5: She's like, I love you like a brother. And I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure what I'm supposed to do here. I want

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Speaker 5: to know if I'm doing the right thing. By the way,

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Speaker 5: this comes from Throwway WW twenty four on the Okay

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Speaker 5: Storytime supread It was this, like.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I love you. If you love me, we could

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Speaker 6: ride off into the sunset. And if not, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: marry this person. I don't know, it seems like that.

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Speaker 5: To give some context, I lost my wife two years ago.

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Speaker 5: I have a five year old daughter. I have not

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Speaker 5: dated in the last two years because I have major

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Speaker 5: trauma from losing my wife. I still love her a

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Speaker 5: lot and don't think I'm ready to move on. I

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Speaker 5: invested all my time and my daughter, who looks exactly

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Speaker 5: like her mother, oh and my work to keep my

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Speaker 5: sanity for the last two years. I've been friends with

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Speaker 5: Bree since we were in elementary school.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 5: We lived in the same neighborhood growing up and we

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Speaker 5: were best friends. She is an awesome person and we

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Speaker 5: were inseparable growing up. The weirdest part was we had

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Speaker 5: completely different personalities. She was very outgoing and always had

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Speaker 5: a lot of friends. I am a big introvert and Brie,

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Speaker 5: along with a few friends, was all I needed. Brie

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Speaker 5: was a serial dater, and I don't remember any time

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Speaker 5: since middle school since she was single. Brie and I

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Speaker 5: never dated. Though Brie and I also went to the

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Speaker 5: same college. She never had a stable boyfriend, but just

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Speaker 5: jumped from one relationship to another. I, on the other hand,

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Speaker 5: did not date seriously until I was in my junior year.

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Speaker 5: When I met my wife. She was a freshman and

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Speaker 5: we hit it off instantly. We fell for each other

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Speaker 5: and spent all of our time with each other. This

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Speaker 5: strained my relationship with Brie, as I would generally hang

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Speaker 5: out with my wife instead of her. That was the

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Speaker 5: time Brie and I slowly started drifting apart. After college,

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Speaker 5: I moved to a different time for my job, and

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Speaker 5: Brie and I occasionally messaged each other, but nothing beyond that.

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Speaker 5: Bri attended my wedding and that was the last time

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Speaker 5: I saw her. I wonder if Brie was in love

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Speaker 5: at that point.

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Speaker 6: Wait, so he got married in college or he's just

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Speaker 6: referring back he met.

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Speaker 5: His wife in college and then after her as wife.

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Speaker 5: Bri attended my wedding and that was the last time

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Speaker 5: I saw her. He kept in touch, but mostly by

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Speaker 5: commenting on each other's pictures or keeping each other updated

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Speaker 5: on significant life events. Bri did reach out to me

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Speaker 5: when my wife passed away and we talked on a

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Speaker 5: phone call. Last year, Brie and her fiance moved to

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Speaker 5: my city I was still grieving, and both have been

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Speaker 5: amazing support for me and my daughter. My daughter loves dancing,

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Speaker 5: and Bri helped me enroller in dancing and gymnastic classes

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Speaker 5: and sometimes takes her to them. I also became good

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Speaker 5: friends with her fiance, who is indeed an incredibly good man.

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Speaker 5: My daughter also loves Auntie Brie, and Brie sometimes helps

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Speaker 5: me babysit, so they're very intertwined.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is really sweet.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad that Opie could get the support.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, until now, MESSI. Last week she told me that

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Speaker 5: over the last few months, she feels like she has

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Speaker 5: started to develop feelings for me and is not sure

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Speaker 5: anymore if she wants to go ahead with the wedding.

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Speaker 5: She felt I also had started developing feelings for her.

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Speaker 5: I told her that I'm not ready for any relationship

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Speaker 5: before I can deal with my mental health, for which

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Speaker 5: I go to a therapist regularly. She tried to convince

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Speaker 5: me that she loved me. We're soulmates, and she felt

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Speaker 5: that we're meant to be together.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's big.

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Speaker 5: That's a big It's like, okay, However, I do not

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Speaker 5: have the same feelings for her. I love her as

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Speaker 5: a friend, but nothing beyond that. What was she supposed

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Speaker 5: to do with the other guy. She's just gonna stay

609
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Speaker 5: with that other guy, the fiance. I don't know that

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Speaker 5: she's been rejected.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a super awkward now.

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Speaker 5: We were both emotional, but she said she was glad

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Speaker 5: we talked about this. She left after that, recalled me

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Speaker 5: that night and told me not to talk about her

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Speaker 5: conversation to anyone. I thought a lot about it and

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Speaker 5: decided that I would not tell her fiance about being

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Speaker 5: my conversation from last week. It's their relationship and I

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Speaker 5: do not have the right to ruin their moment. It

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Speaker 5: breed aside to go ahead with the wedding, I objecct. However,

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Speaker 5: I feel guilty that her fiance does not know anything

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Speaker 5: about this and is going into a marriage where bree

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Speaker 5: might not be fully ready for it. I think you

624
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Speaker 5: just need to have a conversation with Breeze. They're like, girl,

625
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Speaker 5: don't jump in if you're having second thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're in the me like, what you're marrying

627
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Speaker 6: this guy?

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Speaker 5: Can you guys give suggestions on what I should do

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Speaker 5: in this case? Am I wrong for not telling her

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Speaker 5: fiance about our conversation and there is an update. I

631
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Speaker 5: think my advice is like pressure her to talk to him,

632
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Speaker 5: be like, hey, you need like don't go into this

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Speaker 5: wedding if you haven't had the conversation, or don't go

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Speaker 5: into the wedding at all, like don't marry him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I would talk to her and just be like, hey,

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Speaker 6: like I love you like a friend, and like, are

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Speaker 6: you sure it's the right decision to go into this

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Speaker 6: wedding when you just confessed your feelings for me?

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Speaker 5: I think that may be coming from that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: A month ago, I thirty five Mail wrote a post

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Speaker 5: for Guarding my friend Brie thirty five female, telling me

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Speaker 5: that she loved me, only four weeks before her wedding.

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Speaker 5: The last month has been crazy and my whole world

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Speaker 5: has turned upside down again. For context, I lost my

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Speaker 5: wife two years ago and we have a five year

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Speaker 5: old daughter. Brie and her fiance, Jason thirty three Mail,

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Speaker 5: moved to our town a year ago and we have

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Speaker 5: reconnected as friends and they have done a lot to

651
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Speaker 5: cheer me up during this year and bring my life

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Speaker 5: to normalcy. After Bree told me that she loved me,

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Speaker 5: I told her that I was still not ready to

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Speaker 5: move on, as I still miss my wife. She said

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Speaker 5: she understood, and I did not hear from her or

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Speaker 5: Jason for a few days. But gilt was killing me

657
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Speaker 5: as I was not sure if I should tell Jason

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Speaker 5: about what she told me. Thanks to everyone who commented

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Speaker 5: on the post, it helped me think the situation through.

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Speaker 6: I could totally understand what but like Jason has supported

661
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Speaker 6: him in his grief, that's like a big step.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And so to Harry read him and to like know

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Speaker 6: something he doesn't know.

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00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: He'd be very uncomfortable.

666
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: Yah.

667
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 5: I finally called Brie after a few days and asked

668
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 5: her to meet me for lunch. I talked to her

669
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 5: and asked her if she was going ahead with her wedding.

670
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: She broke down and told me she was not sure.

671
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: I told her that she should at least talk to

672
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: Jason regarding her feelings and not be dishonest with him.

673
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 5: I also assured that I would not say anything to Jay,

674
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: but I just wanted her to be happy. She said

675
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 5: she understood and left. That night, I put my daughter

676
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 5: to sleep and was watching TV. Around nine thirty pm,

677
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 5: I heard a loud knock on my door. And it

678
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 5: was Jason. I opened the door and he was in tears.

679
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 5: He started yelling at me and asking me why I

680
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 5: had to steal Bri out of all the people. I

681
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 5: tried to calm him down, but he just kept on shouting.

682
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: I was trying to get him to sit down on

683
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: the bench on our porch. I told him my daughter

684
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: was sleeping upstairs, but he was slowly was getting more

685
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 5: and more physical. He punched me in the face.

686
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: Come on, man, and I.

687
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: Was able to push him off. I told him to

688
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: get out of my house, and he sat in his

689
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 5: truck and drove away. I immediately called Bri.

690
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 6: Oh my god, Jason, that's why you should know Brazilian jujitsu.

691
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, fend him off.

692
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, put him in a choke hold.

693
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: I immediately called Brie and she was crying and did

694
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: not sound well on the phone. She told Jason that

695
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 5: she could not marry him because she had feelings for me,

696
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 5: which I think that is the right decision.

697
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

698
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: I was really scared for her after the physical altercation

699
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: with Jason, and told her to gather some clothes and

700
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: get out of the house.

701
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's fair.

702
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 5: And oh she did that and came to my place.

703
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 5: I just didn't feel she was safe with Jason. I

704
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: consold her for almost two hours and was able to

705
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 5: get her to sleep. The next morning, we had to

706
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: call her parents to let them know about what had happened.

707
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: Brie kept a brave face, but I could see how

708
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: much she was hurting. Her parents asked her to take

709
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: a few days off and immediately come back home, and

710
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 5: she did take a flight in the evening to go home.

711
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 5: Over the next two weeks, the wedding was called off.

712
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: Brie and I were talking every day and she was

713
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: just very exhausted. She talked to Jason a few times

714
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 5: and kept on asking her to take more time to think. However,

715
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: I think Brie just wanted to get out of it

716
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: and decided to just break it off with Jason. Currently,

717
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: Bree is staying with us for the last two weeks.

718
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: She still has a job here and started going back

719
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: to work last week. I have talked to Brie in

720
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: detail about what had happened. Brie told me that Jason

721
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: and her were dating on and off for the last

722
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: four years. Jason is not very career oriented and Bree

723
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 5: is very good at her job. She felt he was

724
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 5: nice and a reliable person, but wasn't sure about him

725
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: from the start. She felt that she was not getting

726
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 5: any younger, and hence they decided to get married. When

727
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: she heard about my wife passing away, she just felt

728
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: really bad and wanted to be around me to comfort me.

729
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: When she got a big promotion, which meant she could

730
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: work in the corporate office, she immediately chose my city

731
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 5: and moved here. Jason also moved here and got a

732
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: new job. She never had any romantic feelings for me

733
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 5: back then. She started hanging out with my daughter and me,

734
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: she started feeling the bond we shared when we were

735
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: growing up, except I was the broken one and she

736
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 5: was taking care of me. She said that she realized

737
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: that she was enjoying her time with us more than

738
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 5: with Jason. She then realized she made a mistake with Jason,

739
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: and what she wanted was right in front of her

740
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: this whole time, just a boy standing in front of

741
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: a girl wait swat that yeah, asking for him to

742
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 5: love her. Hence, she slowly started to think about me

743
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 5: in that way and finally told me about it. She

744
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: knew her relationship with Jason was over the moment she

745
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: confessed to me, it's a crappy situation, but I'm glad

746
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: that she realized that before getting married versus after. As

747
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: for Jason, I feel bad for him. He's moving back

748
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: to her hometown closer to his family. He's currently in

749
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 5: their apartment and we'll move sometime next month. I know

750
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 5: a lot of you would be curious if we were dating.

751
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: We're not dating. That would have been a huge plot

752
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: to us.

753
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

754
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: I don't think I can date anyone right now, and

755
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: neither should breathe. Yeah, she like just ended a like

756
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: an engagement. Yeah, she is my friend, and I'm happy

757
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: that she's staying with us and plans to be here

758
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: until everything is sorted out. My daughter loves having Antibrie

759
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 5: around too, so that's a bonus. Plus. It's really nice

760
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 5: to see her slowly get back to normal. Thanks again

761
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: for helping me during my last post. Cheers, and there

762
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 5: is an update nine months later.

763
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm excited.

764
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: I wrote a post nine months ago about my friend

765
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: Breed telling me that she loved me a few weeks

766
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: before she was supposed to get married. For context, I

767
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: lost my wife three years ago and we have a

768
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 5: six year old daughter, Bri and her fiance Jason, moved

769
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 5: to our town a year ago, and Brie confessed her

770
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: feelings for me. Just weeks before wedding. Things went south,

771
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: and Bri ended up breaking up with Jason and canceling

772
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: the wedding. She was staying with us when I last

773
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: shared an update. I think the story was picked up

774
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 5: by some popular YouTube channels and people have been messaging

775
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: me to find out what happened. Afterward, I wanted to

776
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: maintain our privacy, especially since many of our family members

777
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 5: saw the video and recognize my post. They didn't know

778
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 5: that Jason had assaulted me, and I had to assure

779
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: everyone that we were safe and Okay, I'm feeling particularly

780
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: happy this week, so I thought I would share an update. Firstly,

781
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 5: the reason Bri moved in with us while Jason was

782
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: still in town was because I had a temporary restraining ordering.

783
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 5: It's oh. Brie also filed one but was denied. Oh

784
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: wow wow, So it kind of makes sense for her

785
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 5: to stay with him.

786
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: I expect that.

787
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

788
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, now she's protected under his restrainer.

789
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, as he had never directly threatened her safety. She

790
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: said she felt secure with us because of the restraining order,

791
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: and I agreed. Jason didn't cause any issues after that,

792
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: though he continued texting Brie asking her to work on

793
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 5: the relationship. Eventually, he moved back to our hometown in February,

794
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: and we haven't heard from him since. Bree got her

795
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 5: own apartment once Jason left town, but she remained very

796
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: much a part of our daily lives. I enjoyed having

797
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: her around, and my daughter loves her. In April, Bree

798
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 5: brought up the idea of us dating again. He's like, okay,

799
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: so it's been a couple of months. How we thought

800
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: about that, how we consider I explained that I wasn't

801
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: over my wife's death and didn't want to be unfair

802
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: to her because I still love my late wife deeply.

803
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: Bree told me she knew she could never replace my wife,

804
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 5: nor did she want to. She shared a beautiful analogy.

805
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: She said, my heart is like a big pot. It

806
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: holds a lot of love for my late wife, but

807
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 5: it is also made room for more love when my

808
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: daughter was born. Loving her wouldn't erase my love for

809
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 5: my wife or daughter. It would simply mean there's more

810
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: room in my heart.

811
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: That I realized.

812
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: I love that Breeze kind of like lawyering her way

813
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: into getting ope to lover.

814
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: She convinced me.

815
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, She's like, have we considered that you should love

816
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: me though?

817
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: Uh huh?

818
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 5: Just for you?

819
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 6: And then like, here's a beautiful, touching metaphor.

820
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 5: I took a month to think it over, talking to

821
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 5: my mom and mother in law, late wife's mom, who

822
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: both encouraged me to give a relationship with Brian chance.

823
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 5: She literally lawyered her way into this.

824
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: It's working. I'm telling you.

825
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 5: We officially started dating in May.

826
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: This is literally a call is. I did not expect this.

827
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 5: We officially started dating in May, and it's been surprising

828
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 5: how quickly we fell in love.

829
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: Shocking. This is this is crazy closed heart because of

830
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: his late wife. And he's like, I don't want I

831
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 3: don't believe in love anymore.

832
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 5: She's like, believe in it. I think the strong foundation

833
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 5: of our friendship helped a lot. The last six months

834
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 5: has been amazing, and I've never seen my daughter so happy.

835
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, waking.

836
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 5: He's like, she's a big chatterbox now and insists that

837
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 5: Breed comes to all her school events and recitals. Sometimes

838
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 5: I feel a little jealous of their bond and even

839
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: a bit left out of their little chats. By the way,

840
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 5: you could never be left out of our little chats.

841
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 5: If you join us live every weekday, there'd be MPSD

842
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: on YouTube. Just tap for profile, dap bit and there

843
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: is a little bit left. But any final thoughts on

844
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: this relationship.

845
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to stay friends.

846
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they were going to be good friends.

847
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they're already good friends.

848
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 5: But she she she's a good negotiator. Yeah, she's like,

849
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: how we gotta love me. It's time you.

850
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: Love a chance one more time with me.

851
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 5: But the reason I'm writing this update is because I'm

852
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 5: planning to propose to Breathe.

853
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: This Christmas is a wrong.

854
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: This is wrong. I think this is adorable. I like it.

855
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 5: It's not a surprise proposal. We went engagement ring shopping

856
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 5: last weekend and finalized the ring. Oh my god, So

857
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: she's really good at convincing people to do things. I

858
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 5: knew it seems quick, but I can't imagine spending the

859
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: rest of my life with anyone else. Bree deserves to

860
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: officially be part of our family. My daughter is thrilled,

861
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: and she and Brie are already shopping for dresses for

862
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: the engagement photoshoot and MRCA Wis says, this seems fast.

863
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 5: I agree for someone like he literally said I'm not

864
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 5: over my wife and then was like, actually I am

865
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: going to get married too now after nine months.

866
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: Nine months is quick, but when the heart.

867
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 5: Opened, when the heart and the heart knows what.

868
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: But also she was with them, Yeah, she was the

869
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: whole more than nine months, I mean her whole plus

870
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: my plus the other stuff than when she was there.

871
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: All true, Our families couldn't be happier, and we planned

872
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: to get engaged at a small gathering of family and

873
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: friends over Christmas weekend in our hometown. I know some

874
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 5: people judged me for taking Brie in after she left Jason,

875
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 5: and others judged her for leaving him at the altar.

876
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: Life isn't easy, trust me.

877
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: Wasn't officially the altar.

878
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: Thank you all again for your support on my last post.

879
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 5: And that is the end of this story.

880
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,839
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881
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883
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884
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885
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 6: girlfriend for almost four years now. Our spicy sleep life

886
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 6: really tapered off over the last year. It felt like

887
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 6: I was always the one initiating spicy sleep and desiring her,

888
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 6: but I never got the same desire back from her.

889
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from you and nefarious ness

890
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 6: limp eight hundred on the r okay storytime subreddit. So

891
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 6: spicy sleep most of the time seemed like a chore

892
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 6: or something to just get over with or put off

893
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 6: till the end of the night for her, like both

894
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 6: of you, or it seems like for both of them, Okay,

895
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 6: interesting because.

896
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: She wasn't into it.

897
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 6: It seems like he's like, which could be, Oh, she's

898
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 6: not into it, probably not.

899
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

900
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 6: I tried doing more spontaneous things like taking her on

901
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 6: dates and trying to make her feel as were more

902
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 6: special than the time when we first met. Nothing really

903
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 6: seemed to work, and it was really getting me down.

904
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 6: Fast forward to this April. I could sense something was

905
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 6: off and it was getting feelings that maybe she wasn't

906
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 6: being honest about who she was seeing.

907
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: She's a spy. She's a damn.

908
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: She's a freaking spy. She's seeing the government.

909
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 6: She's more like independent spy type of one. I like

910
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 6: to clarify that I am and was never the type

911
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 6: of person to go through my significant other's phone. And

912
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 6: the next line is probably gonna be but I I

913
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 6: went through it.

914
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: I did do that.

915
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 6: So, for the first time ever in our at that

916
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 6: point three years of dating, I took a look out.

917
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: I'm not the type of person looking her phone.

918
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 5: Would never do it, but when this situation arises, I

919
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: did it.

920
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: I found that she had been texting this guy from

921
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 6: her work, thirty seven year old male who was divorced

922
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 6: with a daughter.

923
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: The texts were pretty infrequent.

924
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: There were days, even weeks at some point when there

925
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 6: would be no communication between them, and then one or

926
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 6: the other would say, hey, hey, not just.

927
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: One, why four? It's four?

928
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 6: Oh wow, that's a lot of why that's dangerous water

929
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 6: you're a little thirsty. Or he would ask over and

930
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 6: over when they could meet again, or if he could

931
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 6: see her after work. At first I was like, it's

932
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 6: not that incriminating, and then it was literally incriminating.

933
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, when can I see you again, babe?

934
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 6: So the text went on like this for two months,

935
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 6: all the way back to February. With the earlier text

936
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: or when she showed more interest. So she's blueballing two

937
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 6: men earlier texts and when she showed more interest, she

938
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 6: wished them happy birthday and offered that she could give

939
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: him his birthday present after work. Yoh, okay, So he

940
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 6: asked her if he could give him his birthday present

941
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 6: after work. He would ask to see her and she

942
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: would say.

943
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: Not say you gotta say you.

944
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna say not today, Poppy. I didn't kid myself.

945
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 6: I didn't drive myself to work.

946
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 5: Oh my god, she doesn't seem interested in either of

947
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: the men.

948
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: Are Yeah, I guarantee he's like. She's never called me Poppy.

949
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I only get Daddy, he gets Poppy. Damn. I

950
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: was the one driving car.

951
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 6: Oh man, damn sucks. When I confronted her about this,

952
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 6: she gave me a whole story of how he would

953
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: wink at her as he walked by.

954
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: She was like, he would wink at me.

955
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't really the fault, Poppy.

956
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: You don't know, Poppy. She could sense that he was interested.

957
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: She told me.

958
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 6: She told him that she has a boyfriend, but she

959
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 6: said the problem was he kept persisting, even following her

960
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 6: to her car after work in the parking lot.

961
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 5: That's weird.

962
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just that's unsafe.

963
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is strange. She said, she took his number

964
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 6: and that's when things started. This isn't like justifying her actions.

965
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, that's not helping her kids. You're like, oh,

966
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: he kept following me, so I started, you know, sleeping

967
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 6: with him.

968
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: Yes, so I took down his number and you know,

969
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: to stop it, poppy.

970
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 6: So she said, she took his number and that's when

971
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: things started. She said she felt wrong about what she

972
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 6: was doing, and she did it because it felt exciting,

973
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 6: even though she said she knew it was wrong. She

974
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 6: then proceeded to say that she never actually met up

975
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 6: with him after work or in her car or anything,

976
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: and that they never physically touched each other, just.

977
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: Like virtually touched each other.

978
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: What is this explanation to op Hypothetically, we touched each

979
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: other yea like.

980
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 6: For her, she said, it was just texting. She cried

981
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: and cried and felt terrible.

982
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: So I winked at her.

983
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: We took space for a while, and I was trying

984
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: to figure out what I wanted to do. I decided

985
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 6: to give things another chance, and I believed her about

986
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: things not physical, but honestly, I really didn't care about

987
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 6: if they did or not, so I just wanted honesty

988
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 6: because it crushed me to believe that she was lying

989
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 6: to me every day for months about her life. It

990
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: felt like I didn't know the person I was dating anymore.

991
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 6: We made it up and had lots of talk about

992
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: transparency and being able to talk about our feelings no

993
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 6: matter how bad or serious they were. Over the course

994
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 6: of beginning of summer till now, we've been working in

995
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 6: our relationship and it's been nice. Honestly, recently, I've been

996
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 6: having trouble, however, with the consistency of her stories. Things

997
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: popped up over the summer that make me feel like

998
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 6: I might be getting lied to and gas lamped. It's

999
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 6: hard for me to decide what to believe, because either

1000
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 6: she's telling the truth or she's manipulating me at a

1001
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 6: level I don't think I could ever do to someone else.

1002
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 6: I discovered that she had all these contacts on her

1003
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 6: follow of men that I had no idea about, all

1004
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 6: with area codes that match our area.

1005
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: You need to get out of this.

1006
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna cheat.

1007
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: She with men in different area codes the day.

1008
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: The thing that makes me upset like he caught her

1009
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: so red handed, and then she even made like a

1010
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: good excuse. It was a terrible excuse, and he was like,

1011
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: I believe that's what. That's what, that's what I'm making.

1012
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of cases around cheating that

1013
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 6: there is a road to repair, and I think it's possible.

1014
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: But that's my belief. You know, I'm not gonna you know.

1015
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: That's just putting in the level, like so much trust

1016
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: into that.

1017
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: I think it takes. It takes so much.

1018
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: To usually do not put can't can't put that much

1019
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 5: work in for sure.

1020
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 6: I discovered that she had all these contacts of her

1021
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 6: on her phone, of men that I had no idea about,

1022
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: all with area codes that match our area, which is

1023
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 6: strange because we just moved here from where we were

1024
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: about two years ago and I have almost no context

1025
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: of women with our area code on my phone.

1026
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 5: Where is she finding all these men?

1027
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where?

1028
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 6: She told me this was because of the old apps

1029
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 6: she used to use before we started dating, and that

1030
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 6: she didn't even know who any of them were like.

1031
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 5: Before we started dating, even though they were dating before

1032
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: they moved there.

1033
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, that again, this is these are bad lies.

1034
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: The fact lies, be better cheating, or be just a

1035
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: better human being.

1036
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: You're bad at.

1037
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: Both, bad at freaking both.

1038
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 6: I discovered that she had all of these men friends

1039
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 6: on Instagram that I no idea who they were, and

1040
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 6: we're new from when we first met. They didn't go

1041
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 6: to school with her, and we're not from her hometown either.

1042
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 6: She told me she didn't know them and that she'd

1043
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 6: unfollowed them.

1044
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: But she's like, no, I don't know who those are.

1045
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: They're bots by bots that I follow.

1046
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 5: I'll follow them right now.

1047
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: But are really hot bots? Really hot thoughts?

1048
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 6: We've exchanged many months of conversations, Poppy.

1049
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: That at this point, Opie's actually making me upset.

1050
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm frustra I'm frustrated.

1051
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: I believed her, and this is so funny.

1052
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: This is on you. This is on you.

1053
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: I believe, and so that's reasonable. Still, you're stupid, That's

1054
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1055
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: Bro, You're just stupid.

1056
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 6: I want this to keep escalating, and Keana just keep

1057
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 6: getting more pistol.

1058
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1059
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't get very upset, but this is like making

1060
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 3: him really upset.

1061
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 5: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice. This

1062
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 5: it's this guy.

1063
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: I gave her so many chances to be honest about

1064
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 6: it if she talked to another guy, or if there

1065
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 6: was another suspect about these guys, and she denied and

1066
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 6: denied and denied. I then recently found out that she

1067
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 6: downloaded Bumble.

1068
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: Why are we.

1069
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: Still why no free sponsors?

1070
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 5: Why are we still here?

1071
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 6: In June fifth, twenty twenty three?

1072
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: Ooh her app history. Wow, June fifth is such a

1073
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: specific date.

1074
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 6: I confronted her about this, thinking that she'd just be

1075
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 6: honest about it and say she did.

1076
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: Why would She's literally never been honest once.

1077
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: After all, she did have an affair with a guy

1078
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 6: from work. I wouldn't think it was that crazy to

1079
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 6: download Bumble. Also, she was feeling like that. She then

1080
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 6: denied again and again that she did. She said she

1081
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 6: never used that app, and even went as far as

1082
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 6: say that I downloaded it was you? It was you

1083
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 6: downloaded it maybe to check to see if she was

1084
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 6: using it.

1085
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: Like what He's.

1086
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: Like, hey, you downloaded Babbo. She was like, uh, Norden,

1087
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 5: you download O Babbo.

1088
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, Dan, I might have done that.

1089
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: It was an accident.

1090
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry.

1091
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: So I believed her, and we moved on. I again said, oh,

1092
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up.

1093
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: Ken you so pissed. I again said, Okay, maybe you're

1094
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: telling the truth.

1095
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: Dude, what are you doing?

1096
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

1097
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: You idiots? I'm angry at the level of stupidity.

1098
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: You're a Oh my god, to me, to me and

1099
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 5: all the people watching, because you're freaking stupid.

1100
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: Like I gave the guy that benefit of the doubt.

1101
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: Look at the first time you guys talked through it. Okay,

1102
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: oh my god, you get one chance.

1103
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: I thought this story was gonna stay on the podcast.

1104
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: This dude has caught her.

1105
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: He's gone today. I was thinking about all of it,

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00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: and I just up.

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00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: Ah, sorry for yelling.

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00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 6: And I just thought, hmmm, there's no way I would

1109
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 6: download the app.

1110
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: Dude.

1111
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Wait, he believed that, dude, I thought he had download Ope,

1112
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: you are a moron. I'm sorry.

1113
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 5: This is i've ever met. Yeah, I haven't even met it.

1114
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: Jump yourself.

1115
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 6: There's no way I would download the app if it

1116
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 6: wasn't previously downloaded, as there would be no point. So

1117
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 6: I'm starting to think she's maybe possibly hypothetically lying to

1118
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 6: me about that.

1119
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: What else is she not telling me.

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00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 6: I just need some advice on what to do because

1121
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 6: I'm getting lost and I feel like I can't trust her.

1122
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: But I also feel like I could be going crazy.

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00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: You are crazy, You are crazy stupid.

1124
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh, you're so stupid.

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00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 5: We need to go into this update because this is

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00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 5: mind bogglingly.

1127
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: You be updates.

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00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 6: I recently caught my girlfriend cheating recently.

1129
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 5: He caught her cheating months ago.

1130
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: Recently cheating.

1131
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 6: Don't know if she is, and I've been dealing with

1132
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 6: the aftermath for the past six months.

1133
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: We had been dating for about four years.

1134
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 6: Guys, four years he was he was in denial.

1135
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: And four years ago she cheated on him and he

1136
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 5: was like.

1137
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 2: He was in denial, he was in love.

1138
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 6: No one wants to believe that they're being cheated on.

1139
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: I just wanted to thank everyone here for the advice

1140
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 6: and suggestions on what to do. I confronted her about

1141
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 6: the Bubble account I found out she had made while

1142
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 6: we were dating, and that's when the truth finally came out.

1143
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: She weirdly didn't admit to the Bumble account during the confrontation,

1144
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: but finally admitted to giving some guy oral in the

1145
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 6: parking lot of.

1146
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: The grocery store. These people are so dumb.

1147
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 6: She was working at Yeah, the same guy. That was

1148
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 6: the same Poppy. We're not twenty five Poppy. Truly later,

1149
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 6: we're still on the same damn poppy.

1150
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: That was his freaking birthday gifts.

1151
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: That was his birthday his birthday gift.

1152
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 6: It was actually a subscription model birthday gift, the.

1153
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: Same guy she's been texting four months.

1154
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 6: It was a bittersweet moment for me because for the

1155
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 6: first time in the past six months, I finally felt

1156
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 6: like I wasn't going crazy anymore.

1157
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 5: You're just stupid. Oh, I don't feel bad for you.

1158
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I feel bad. I'm saying both.

1159
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: I'm literally I'm so sorry. I don't feel bad.

1160
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 6: Upset all the days and months having her tell me

1161
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 6: over and over that nothing physical happened and that it

1162
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: was just texting war lies.

1163
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: Well, she's right, he never had spicy sweep her.

1164
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 6: My mouth just had spicy sleep her. However, knowing that

1165
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 6: she could do that to me and come home every

1166
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 6: night for a year acting like nothing was happening, she

1167
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 6: would constantly call me crazy and say that it hurt

1168
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 6: her that I couldn't believe her. She gasped like the

1169
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 6: crab out of him crazy. I felt terrible for so long,

1170
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 6: constantly questioning everything, including my own judgment. She tried to

1171
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 6: make it sound better by saying she was forced into

1172
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 6: it in some way and that it only happened once.

1173
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 6: I'm just happy for the first time in a long time,

1174
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 6: I finally can see.

1175
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: Through her lies.

1176
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 6: It's like she lied so much to me so many

1177
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 6: times that I've started to pick up on her different

1178
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 6: reactions with certain things and how to tell she's lying.

1179
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 5: What do you mean how everything she says is a lie?

1180
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 6: Brother, Well, that's how he knows, you know it's not

1181
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 6: a lie. That You can join us live on YouTube

1182
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 6: every weekday at three pm just tap our profile. Wow,

1183
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: another relevant update. But let's discuss we've discussed. I just

1184
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 6: get into Yeah, I want to see what this guy does.

1185
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 6: He's like, oh, you know what she's like, stay with her.

1186
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 5: He's like, actually, I realized that she was telling the truth.

1187
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 6: Not that there's any use anymore because I'm leaving her

1188
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 6: for good. After the next five times cheats on me,

1189
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 6: I told her I can't do this anymore.

1190
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: It's been incredibly difficult.

1191
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 6: I have no savings, so I'm gonna move back in

1192
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 6: with my parents and start working with myself, hitting the

1193
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 6: gym and meeting new people. It's like all the comments

1194
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 6: on Instagram, it's like, this is this person's like intro

1195
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 6: to the gym.

1196
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: You know he's in his villain era. Yeah, he's in

1197
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: his villain going to the gym. Get jacked.

1198
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 6: I just wanted to provide an update who was waiting

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Speaker 6: for one for my last post, and to say thank

1200
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 6: you again everyone for telling and showing me that I

1201
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 6: was being blind too. Hopefully I can save and get

1202
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 6: my own apartment soon and really find myself.

1203
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: That's the end of that freaking story.

1204
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: My twin sister has a history with my partner. Now

1205
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: she's trying to ban him from family events. Sometimes you

1206
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: see what you like, sometimes you're seeing double backstory. I

1207
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 3: twenty nine female, have known my now partner since I

1208
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: was young. He now thirty. Male's friends with my older brother.

1209
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: They are the same age, so he was around a lot.

1210
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: Him and I started seeing each other when I was

1211
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: seventeen and he was nineteen. We were just fooling around

1212
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: and then developed feelings. My partner had on one occasion

1213
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: slept with my twin sister when we were fourteen and

1214
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: him sixteen, taking her virginity. This was a very big

1215
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: This was a this is a this is a very

1216
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: scratching opener. By the way, this comes from user real

1217
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: addition five two four on the r slash. Okay, storytime

1218
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: subverre at it. So that was a very spicy opener.

1219
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what why are you going with the same

1220
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: guy that slept with yours? Okay? When my family found

1221
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: out about him and I, I was subsequently kicked out

1222
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: of home and moved to a different state. He and

1223
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: I broke up about three years later. After eight years,

1224
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 3: we reconnected and have now been dating for over a year.

1225
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 3: Again happily nice. My little brother is turning twenty one.

1226
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: I have been invited, and as per the invite, partners

1227
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: and plus ones are welcome. I have since been told

1228
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: that my partner is unable to come because my sister

1229
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: will be there and she has said if he's going, I.

1230
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 2: Won't be there.

1231
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: Ooh, my mom has said that unless she reconsiders, he

1232
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: won't be attending. Oh dang, which again, what happened?

1233
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: Oh, we already know what happened. I know what happened

1234
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: with like.

1235
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: We need more context here for me to attend this party.

1236
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: It is an eighteen hour drive round trip, nine there

1237
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: and nine back. I only found out my partner isn't

1238
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: invited after asking Mom if we could stay at the house.

1239
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: It was never specifically mentioned. The last time my partner

1240
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 3: and I saw my family, we stayed at the house,

1241
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: so this wasn't a far fetched request. I simply asked

1242
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: to make sure there was space. To be honest, I

1243
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: asked my mom to ask my sister to reconsider. My

1244
00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: sister is adamant on her position. She's under the impression

1245
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: that when hit him and I started dating when I

1246
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: was seventeen, that he was also dating her at the

1247
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: same time.

1248
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: Now you're not your sister. I mean, I know you

1249
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: guys do everything together, but.

1250
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: Not that even finishing each other's sentences, which was not

1251
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: the case I read the messages twelve years ago. We

1252
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: have offered to sit down and talk about this on

1253
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: many many occasions throughout the years. I have asked her

1254
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: to reconsider and stated that if she doesn't reconsider, I

1255
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: will be not attending the party myself. Ultimatums, I don't

1256
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: feel safe during the eighteen hour drive alone, especially after

1257
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: a big drinking event, don't drink, or just don't drive.

1258
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: I also get panic attacks, and the last time I

1259
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: did a big drive alone, I had a panic attack

1260
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: in the bathroom and the attendant was informed and checked

1261
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: on me. This was excruciating, embarrassing, and mortifying on so

1262
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: many levels. My family is aware of this instance and

1263
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: aware of how panic attacks affect me. My sister's solution

1264
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: to this was to suggest he drive with me for

1265
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: the eighteen hours, drop me off, and come back in

1266
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 3: a few days to pick me up.

1267
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: No, that's ridiculous.

1268
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

1269
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: By the time he got back, you'd have to.

1270
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: Start trying to go back. I said, absolutely not. I'm

1271
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: not asking him to sit in the car with me

1272
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: for eighteen hours as a chauffeur to say see you

1273
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: in a few days to drive me back. I find

1274
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: that incredibly rude and a disgusting way to treat someone

1275
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: very fair. Due to my sister's response, I've repeated again

1276
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: that if she doesn't reconsider, I will not be attending

1277
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: and then I will have nothing to do with her

1278
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: and go no contact. Ooh again, She'll have to do

1279
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: nothing with me and any of my future children. Vice

1280
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: versa with my partner or not. She believes she could

1281
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: be around him for the sake of the children, but

1282
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: I will refuse. For context, my sister is engaged to

1283
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 3: be married, has two children on her own, and would

1284
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: be traveling four to five hours at most ten hour

1285
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: round trip to attend the party. Also, as a general

1286
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: pattern for my family, partners, girlfriends slash boyfriends, serious or

1287
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 3: not have always been invited to events, no questions asked.

1288
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: Would I be the a hole for not attending if

1289
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: she doesn't reconsider there is an edit?

1290
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: M No, I don't know.

1291
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 3: I just what is the animosity towards so the twin

1292
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: sister and the boyfriend? Yeah, again, the twin sister, Obie's sister.

1293
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 3: Twin sister had relations for say, yeah, very young boyfriend

1294
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: and very young.

1295
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: She still might be upset about that.

1296
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: She still might one hundred percent.

1297
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: That's all I'm getting unless there's more. Because if there's more.

1298
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: Is she upset did he do something that was really bad?

1299
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 3: We don't know. I need to know context of why

1300
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: she doesn't like the boyfriend because it seems like things

1301
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: got settled. If I'm is it weird?

1302
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and it happened before like he was able

1303
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: to go there before, but now he's not, so something

1304
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: new may have happened. Yeah, and I try to get

1305
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: more information.

1306
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: I want I want more information, especially the sister has

1307
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: already two kids, is married. There's got to be something

1308
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: with this boyfriend. She probably was already moved on, there

1309
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: was a pass, but it seems like no, everything got okay,

1310
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: but now it's bad. I want to know what what

1311
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: did the boyfriend do? Also, that's very weird. Twins. Oh yeah, yikes. Edit,

1312
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: I'm not making excuses up for what I did when

1313
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: I was seventeen. Yes, I understand getting in a relationship

1314
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: with him was a betrayal. I had worked on reconnecting

1315
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: a relationship with her, which was going positively. He also

1316
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: has had a conversation with her via messenger apologizing.

1317
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you see, it was.

1318
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 3: Only after we got back together that.

1319
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: This is an issue. Okay, okay, Edit too.

1320
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: Consent and age of consent SA she was again that's

1321
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: their opiate, stating she was fourteen and he was sixteen.

1322
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: Age of consent here is sixteen. Statuary grape is not

1323
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: applicable two years age gap at that age where the

1324
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: older is not in a position of authority. He was

1325
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: not in a position of authority in our lives. It was

1326
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: consensual and voluntary between the two of them.

1327
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's illegal stuff.

1328
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 3: That's yeah, yes, a little mucky there, but yes, Now

1329
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: onto the update. Oh boy, I spoke to my little brother,

1330
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: the birthday boy. The person that should be dictating who

1331
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: is invited don't know.

1332
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't like that. I

1333
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: don't like that at all.

1334
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: Before getting into that, I understand I was the a

1335
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: hole when I was seventeen. I would like to point

1336
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: out that it does not take a lot to get

1337
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: to that point of sleeping with someone your sister has

1338
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: slept with. It's not all fing rosie. It doesn't make

1339
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: it right, but it's already happened.

1340
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1341
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: Anyways, back to it. My little brother, he understands everyone's perspectives,

1342
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: understands that my sister is holding onto things, understands the

1343
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 3: need for me to have someone travel up with me.

1344
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: He said my partner was invited, but understands why my

1345
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: sister is taking her stance. At the end of the day,

1346
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: he would like both me and my sister there. He

1347
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: asked me if I could call my sister and try

1348
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: and talk things out and get her to reconsider. In

1349
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: our conversation, he admitted that he doesn't really get it

1350
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: when it comes to holding the grudge, but nonetheless, it's

1351
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: her decision to do so. I asked him if it

1352
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: would be upset if I didn't end up going because

1353
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: of this, and he said, well, yeah, but we will

1354
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: make it up for later. He understands that I need

1355
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: to have someone to help drive. It's a long drive.

1356
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: Eighteen hours is a no joke.

1357
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1358
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: He remains completely neutral. I did not ask him to

1359
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: put his foot down and tell anyone what or who

1360
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: should be coming, even though he kind of did say

1361
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: at the beginning he said if he asked his opinion,

1362
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: he will share it diplomatically. He just wants to enjoy

1363
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: his birthday. After this phone call, I spoke to my sister.

1364
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: This conversation was heated from the get go. It was

1365
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: extremely heated as of now. I understand it is her

1366
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: perspective that she believes my partner cheated on her when

1367
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 3: we first got together when we were seventeen. I asked

1368
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: her why she thought this, and her answer was, I'm

1369
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: not getting into it. I don't need to oh. I

1370
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: mentioned that she was with X at the time, and

1371
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: she said that she she said that didn't effing matter.

1372
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: There was obviously a connection between her and my partner.

1373
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: Oh jelly, she's jelly jelly, Okay, reminiscent feelings. But you

1374
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: have a husband now and with two.

1375
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: Childrens And she's like, she cheated on me, that's it.

1376
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: And at that time, no, that's it. Whenever we were

1377
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: bout seventeen, we're basically dating him at the same time,

1378
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: so like and he sometimes I would be in the

1379
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: room when you were not. She just upset.

1380
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just confused.

1381
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: He was confused.

1382
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 3: He thought, yeah, he thought you were me.

1383
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: And how many times he kissed me during that time? Dude,

1384
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: she could have done that. There are identical to ones.

1385
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: That's the thing that you didn't know, or.

1386
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: Maybe they did know. I don't know.

1387
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: Maybe that's that's the thing with I don't know, I

1388
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 3: don't know. Let's not get into those nervous over here.

1389
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: Those are very deep insights. I mentioned her talking to

1390
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: him on multiple occasions after we broke up and a

1391
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: few years ago, and she said, no, I didn't, And

1392
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: I said, you did. I've seen the messages he apologized,

1393
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: you accepted. You even sent him a photo of your daughter.

1394
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: She said, you can't keep bringing that up. It doesn't matter.

1395
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: I didn't have a conversation with him, and if I did,

1396
01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: I balked him straight after. This is incorrect, and she

1397
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: blocked him when me and him started seeing each other again.

1398
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: It's she's just very jealous that he picked her over.

1399
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: They're identical. Yeah, they had to be identical. I have

1400
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 3: to and he picked op over the sister.

1401
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what sucks. I've been in a similar situation. Twins. No,

1402
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: I had one twin that was into me. Oh, but

1403
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: I was into her other twin. Uhh, I know, I know,

1404
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: I know. Identical twins. Yeah, they were identical.

1405
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I know.

1406
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: Personality wise, they were different.

1407
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean what was a little.

1408
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: Bit meaner than the other one? Did you like the

1409
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: mean one?

1410
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I would be into the meter one too.

1411
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: The nice ones? Come on, okay, well too nice? Okay, okay, okay,

1412
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: that's for another story. Let's go into the rest of

1413
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: this one. I asked her what it would take for

1414
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: us to move forward from this, and she said, I

1415
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: have a relationship with you without him being involved. That's

1416
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: not how it's which I agreed with that absolutely can occur,

1417
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: but I'm also not going to pretend my relationship doesn't exist.

1418
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 3: He is a part of my life. She seemly doesn't

1419
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: want that, doesn't want to be in the same room.

1420
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: I asked her why, and she said, are you serious?

1421
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: And I said yeah. She said, because she simply doesn't

1422
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: want to be around him. I pointed out that as

1423
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 3: he is a part of my life. She said, if

1424
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: I end up having kids, she will reconsider and be

1425
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: a part of their lives, but not his.

1426
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: Why is she being so petty.

1427
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: That would be the point of reconsidering for children. I

1428
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: tried to explain that those kids would be an extension

1429
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: of him, and she said and she said so and

1430
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: I said, he will be around, especially around his children,

1431
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: to which it wasn't met well. She asked me to

1432
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: remember a certain trauma that was disclosed by her during

1433
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: the time I started seeing my partner the first time,

1434
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: and I said, yeah, but they are two scenarios. Her

1435
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: response was, but they aren't in my mind. Whoa whoa. Note,

1436
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: this trauma has nothing to do with my partner, and

1437
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: it was only because it was disclosed during the time

1438
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: that I started seeing him when I was seventeen, that

1439
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 3: she joins them.

1440
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: Mmm.

1441
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: I asked if she had considered therapy to separate the two.

1442
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: She said, she doesn't need therapy, so she just closed minded.

1443
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: Weird. I don't know.

1444
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm very I'm very intrigued by Like there's two different scenarios.

1445
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: I guess she's tying it together with the X, but

1446
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: he's not the reason of that. That's what it seems like.

1447
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: I think the boyfriend do we know his name?

1448
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: No.

1449
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: I think the boyfriend made promises to Opie's sister, and

1450
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: and she's mad about.

1451
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: It one hundred percent or like guaranteed or something like,

1452
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you're the one, or like all that stuff. Laugh.

1453
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 3: I reiterated that our brother would both like us to

1454
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: be there, but without the reconsidering of the stance, I

1455
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to go. It went on a fair

1456
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 3: bit of tangents, but I said, I feel like I'm

1457
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: being punished for a silly choice at seventeen, over and

1458
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: over again. And she said, it's not me and her,

1459
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: it's between him and her. He's taught to you. Yeah,

1460
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: and I guess you would be down to talk again,

1461
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: but she doesn't. This twin sister doesn't want to talk

1462
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: to him.

1463
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1464
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: I pointed out that there is still no resolve in this,

1465
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: and she doesn't care. I asked her if there's anything

1466
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: we can do to help, and she said not go.

1467
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: From the conversations, things have become less clear and nothing

1468
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: has a reason other than I slept with him. No

1469
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: explanations as to why she thought they were together. I

1470
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: have no clear answers. I write this ask does it

1471
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: even matter though? Does what happened twelve years matter? The

1472
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: little particular details. But you know what, guys, we have

1473
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: all the details for you live every weekday at three

1474
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: pm PSD. Just tap our profile. Uh.

1475
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: I hate that there's no context.

1476
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: I hate that the sister's not giving any context.

1477
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh he's coming, you can't come.

1478
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: What can I do to make things work?

1479
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: You can't come. You can't come. He cannot be around.

1480
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: Is there anything I can do?

1481
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

1482
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: What about like if I have children? Uh?

1483
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he can't be there.

1484
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 3: But he's the father of the children.

1485
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: Ah, that doesn't matter. You're married to another man with

1486
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: two kids. But I can still be offended by this

1487
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: because I used to like him. And I have all

1488
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: these feelings stores him, so he can't be around me.

1489
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: You are connecting one trauma that you had at the

1490
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: same time when I got together with him.

1491
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: But they were basically dating at the same time. Remember

1492
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: remember that because they remember their twins. They were dating

1493
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: at the same time.

1494
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: Ah, this is so confusing.

1495
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: It's such a mind game. This is such a trying

1496
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: to understand your mind game. Opie sister.

1497
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 3: Getting like again, unless if we have the full on

1498
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: disclosed details of like, did the ex do something really traumatic?

1499
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: I think they were talking before op and the boyfriend

1500
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: got together. She's jealous now because I think bagby Daddy.

1501
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: I think she's just upset that she chose OP over

1502
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 3: her again, unless if there are other details, because again

1503
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 3: the sister and the boyfriend Opie's boyfriend, it was consensual.

1504
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: There was nothing that we know that well. I don't

1505
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: think that's the issue. I don't I don't know what

1506
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: happened at a young age is no.

1507
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: But the issue that's like the first thing that was consensual,

1508
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't take advantage or anything.

1509
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: It was just like okay.

1510
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: And then fast forward another year, especially since he's being

1511
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 3: around because he's hanging out with the older brother, So

1512
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: what is going on with the sister dude who for

1513
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: and knows? I do think time heals wounds, and I'm

1514
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: not trying to sweep anything under the rug. I'm happy

1515
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: to address it. I just need to know what am

1516
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: I addressing other people than sleeping with him. I am

1517
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: no close closer to answers that I was prior to

1518
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: the conversation, so are we. It won't change your relationship now.

1519
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: To be honest, I do love him and we have

1520
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: both grown in mistakes that were made when we were teenagers.

1521
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: It is what it is. Teenagers make mistakes. Our adult

1522
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: relationship I won't be apologizing for and that's the end

1523
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 3: of that. We don't know.

1524
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: We don't have an update.

1525
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: I think Op's not the a hole here. I think

1526
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: OP is just like, if you have reasoning other than

1527
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: like you just don't like the guy, yeah, to not

1528
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 3: invite him. I don't understand. Yeah, but I have I

1529
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: have proof that he talked to you, and he apologized

1530
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 3: to you, and you.

1531
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: Talk to him. You gud they were good.

1532
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 3: They were giddy giddy, like He's like.

1533
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh, probably thought she had a chance, that she had.

1534
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: A chance and then again they got back together, and

1535
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: that's when things got OPI and the boyfriend got back together.

1536
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,919
Speaker 3: It's just jealousy.

1537
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: It has to be just so whack not inviting your

1538
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: sister to her party.

1539
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: Twenty it's their brother's twenty first birthday. By the way,

1540
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: whack dude, opis sister, you're whack again. Your Opie is

1541
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: trying to figure out a resolution. Yeah, she's not getting

1542
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 3: The only resolution is that sucks. Don't bring him.

1543
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: Please like insanity. No, well that's that story. End to

1544
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: the story. Guys. Hey, it's John here, og host here.

1545
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's a

1546
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: quick three minute break of ass from our sponsors. My

1547
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: sister apartment is a mess, but when we tried to

1548
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: clean it, she was furious.

1549
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: You're gross.

1550
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: Necessary background context. A couple of years ago my family

1551
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: I twenty seven female, helped my sister twenty nine female

1552
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,480
Speaker 2: move out of her apartment while her boyfriend slash baby

1553
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: Daddy was at work bad guy. Her entire apartment was trashed,

1554
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 2: literally trashed everywhere. Her kitchen was full of every dirty

1555
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: dish possible, pots, pans, silverware. By the way, this comes

1556
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: from a bit lost and found on the r slash

1557
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: Okay story time subredded so it was food molded and

1558
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: encrusted to the dishes. Almost all was thrown away as

1559
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: it was not savable. They had three cats that pissed

1560
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: everywhere ew. They made no attempt to clean it. The

1561
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: smell was unpleasant to say the least, because of what

1562
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: my sister we'll call her Sam, told us. We were

1563
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: under the impression that the state of the apartment was

1564
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: all her now ex boyfriend's fault. Needless to say, we

1565
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: quickly packed her and her daughter up and got them

1566
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: out of there. Fast forward to now. My parents helped

1567
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: her get in a new apartment closer to their home.

1568
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: They helped her get a car. They helped her with

1569
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 2: getting her daughter to ABA therapy. She has autism five

1570
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: days a week. Sam asked me for money on occasion,

1571
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: saying Sam asked me for money, occasionally asking she is

1572
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: stretched thin this week, but can pay me back when

1573
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: her check comes in. She works from home. There was

1574
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: one occasion where my mom and I went over to

1575
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 2: clean Sam's new apartment. In the past, we let it

1576
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: slide and assumed it was just due to the big

1577
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: changes and depression. I got Sam in touch with a

1578
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: great psychologists who started on her meds for her depression.

1579
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 2: Now that you know a small piece of the situation,

1580
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 2: I'll get onto the real problem. The apartment is completely trashed.

1581
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: When our mom drops Sam's daughter off after ABA, she

1582
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: went in to use the restroom. Once inside, she saw

1583
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: trash everywhere, picture pizza boxes, takeout bags, empty bottles, dishes,

1584
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 2: moldy food in the kitchen, mountains of dirty laundry and more.

1585
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: Of course, our mom had a moment and basically told

1586
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: Sam to clean this crap up. My mom told me

1587
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: what she saw at Sam's. I was pissed. Sam's daughter

1588
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: is three years old and has autism. She puts literally

1589
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: anything and everything in her mouth. Oh no, this is

1590
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: so bad. That's so bad, ah son, choking hazards.

1591
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: It just just gross environment in general. That's disgusting.

1592
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 6: Ugh.

1593
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: All I could imagine was my niece picking up moldy

1594
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: food and putting it in her mouth. No, this kid

1595
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: is sick all the time, respiratory issues, diarrhiea, fevers. It's

1596
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: typical for toddlers to get sick. But as often as

1597
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: she is not normal, I know the mold is playing

1598
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: a huge role. Sam doesn't seem to be bothered. I

1599
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,480
Speaker 2: made a plan with my mom to show up unannounced

1600
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: at Sam's apartment to discuss the issue and help her

1601
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: clean up. Had we told Sam we were coming, she

1602
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: would have told us not to. She likely would have

1603
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: taken her daughter, locked the doors, and left so she

1604
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to make up an excuse as to why

1605
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: she won't let us in. So we showed up. She

1606
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: opened the door and was completely caught off guard when

1607
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: we said we had to talk to her about something,

1608
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: and walked right in. Surprisingly, she did actually pick up

1609
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: some of the trash my mom had seen last time

1610
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: she was over. However, we soon found out that she

1611
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: had just put the trash in her small back patio outside. Dude,

1612
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: out of side, out of mind, dude, like, oh if.

1613
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 3: It's not in my if it's not here, it's not here,

1614
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: Like the trash is gone. I mean she kind of

1615
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 3: did clean it. She just moved it, cleaned.

1616
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,520
Speaker 2: It out of her out of the house.

1617
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: Out of her house, out of her house to the patio. Yeah,

1618
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: for more trash to be put there. Nah, this is

1619
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 3: this is actually disgusting.

1620
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's where I might really be the a hole.

1621
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 2: I told her that if CPS were to walk into

1622
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: your apartment, they would considered this to be neglect and

1623
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: you could lose your daughter.

1624
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 3: That's okay.

1625
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: If your daughter understood what was going on, do you

1626
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: think she would choose to be here? Oh she went

1627
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: boom boom.

1628
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: That's not even an a whole move. That's just so fair.

1629
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: These are critical questions to be asking yourself.

1630
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 3: There's like you need to be tidy and like put

1631
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: clothes away and like stuff like that. There is mold.

1632
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: You can get rats, you can get maggots, you can

1633
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 3: get so many things.

1634
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: From moldy food.

1635
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 3: It's all over the apartment.

1636
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: Not healthy.

1637
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: That's disgusting for a three year old. Two byes, a

1638
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: three year old is living in this environment with mold and.

1639
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: Ugh ugh, Sam said, I know, but I did pick

1640
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: up all of the trash. She did not. At that

1641
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: exact moment, I leaned over and lifted the nearest piece

1642
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: of foil off a ceramic dish and lo and behold mold.

1643
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 6: Ugh.

1644
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean the entire dish was full of about one

1645
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 2: inch of mold.

1646
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: That's brutal. That is actually discussed. But why do you

1647
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: live in that environment?

1648
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: This particularly dish my mom recognized as the dish she

1649
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 2: let Sam take on Christmas, as it had been full

1650
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: of the dessert leftovers. Dude, that is Oh my gosh,

1651
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: that is foul. Oh my gosh, I get it.

1652
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 3: Maybe you miss your dish and like you're a little lazy,

1653
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: you need a break, maybe like a day. But your

1654
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 3: entire household is full of mold. And this is from Christmas.

1655
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 2: My mother would love this story.

1656
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: Why she loves dirty stories.

1657
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: No, she hates it. Oh, she absolutely hates it.

1658
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, I'm saying my mom.

1659
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 2: My mom would probably have like, I'm not kidding.

1660
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: Anism yeah, like she if she if she saw that.

1661
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: I can't possibly describe everything my mom and I cleaned

1662
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: up as Sam's cleaned upstairs. However, I can say at

1663
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: one point I did lift up one side of the

1664
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: couch for my mom to look under smells so bad

1665
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: that I swore her cat was dead underneath it. Luckily,

1666
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: no cat was found things. Unfortunately, that was just the

1667
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 2: means the mold must have spread, either to the car

1668
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: or within the walls. Dude, we also discovered mold growing

1669
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: behind her kitchen sink. I was very surprised, and I

1670
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: did not find and I didn't find bugs crawling around.

1671
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: I also noticed my niece grabbing pins off one of

1672
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: the couch cushions and putting them into her mouth. Within

1673
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,480
Speaker 2: the pile that she grabbed the pins from was scissors.

1674
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 2: And I told Sam this. She did not even seem

1675
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: to understand the problem. Dude, this is not safe.

1676
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: This is a terrible, terrible environment, let alone for just

1677
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: an adult.

1678
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, a three year old, three year old, dude,

1679
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: a toddler.

1680
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: Toddler, M this is I would I would be like,

1681
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: I'm taking I'm taking my knees. Yeah, Like if you

1682
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: don't get your act together, like I get it, this

1683
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: is your this is your baby. But this is a

1684
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: this is just a terrible environment for her. Clean this

1685
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 3: place and it needs to be spotless.

1686
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah immediately.

1687
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 3: And you need to figure out scissors that a kid

1688
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 3: could reach. Come on, she's putting if she's putting the

1689
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 3: pens in her mouth.

1690
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have been to a house where it's just

1691
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: like undescribingly like I could not believe people were living there.

1692
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: I feel like this is one of those.

1693
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: I've I don't think I've ever heard that story. I mean,

1694
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: I've been to frat houses like I've been inside.

1695
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: A frat house.

1696
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 3: Oh no, this is boy different where it's like disgusting

1697
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: and like filthy, but like that's kind of expected. Yeah,

1698
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 3: this is a house for like a mom and a daughter.

1699
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: At the end of our visit, we had told her

1700
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: that we aren't going to keep cleaning this up every

1701
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: few months for you. If your medication is not helping you,

1702
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: you need to tell your doctor so we can find

1703
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 2: you something better. This is not safe for your daughter,

1704
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: and we simply cannot allow it to go on. We

1705
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: then left and went to the store and picked up

1706
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: cleaning supplies and dropped it off at the door and

1707
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: hit the doorbell. We didn't expect her to open the

1708
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: door for us again, so we left. You can open

1709
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 2: the door for us every weekday at three PMPST. Just

1710
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: stab her profile, tap it. Oh ah, do you like?

1711
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: I hate the story. I hate the story so much.

1712
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm just crawling on the inside.

1713
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 3: Like the bugs crawling all over the You know why

1714
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: you can't find the bugs because they're crawling inside of

1715
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: me right now, get them out, clean them off.

1716
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 7: Ah.

1717
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: I mean we already know what needs to be done here.

1718
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1719
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: The fact that I get it you. You can have

1720
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 3: depression and like not clean and it hits, but you

1721
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 3: gotta know.

1722
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: It's coming to this point you gotta like address it.

1723
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 3: There is a there is a fine line between like, Okay,

1724
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 3: it's messy in here, but to like, it's unlivable in here,

1725
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: and this is no, no, this is this is actually disgusting.

1726
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: My family and I have talked about him, and we

1727
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: have no idea what to do. On one hand, we

1728
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: feel bad because we understand she's dealing with depression, but

1729
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: on the other hand, we're up. My niece just can't

1730
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: be left to live in a situation like that. It's

1731
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: absolutely neglect at this point. Our current plans are to

1732
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: check her apartment again in a month to make sure

1733
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: it hasn't gone right back to crap. My sister won't

1734
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: speak to me, but has been telling my mom that

1735
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 2: coming over unexpectedly was extremely rude and the way I

1736
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: spoke to her was disrespectful and doing too much. I

1737
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 2: truly feel like what my mom and I did was

1738
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: for the best, despite things I said, Despite things I said,

1739
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: I felt like she needed to hear the CPS comment

1740
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: to snap her out of it. But hearing that, but

1741
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: hearing what she thinks has me questioning myself. Maybe I

1742
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: should have gone about it in a different way. Was

1743
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: that too mean? And what the heck do we do

1744
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: if this keeps happening. I don't think it was too mean.

1745
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: You're trying to save your niece at the bare minimum.

1746
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: You need to hear this.

1747
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 3: No, No, I'd like, I mean, really took the words

1748
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 3: out of my mouth. Like I said earlier, this is

1749
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 3: an unlivable environment, not just for a regular adult, but

1750
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: for a three year old m The CPS comment was

1751
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: to post was supposed to snap her out of it?

1752
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the fact that she got offended and like

1753
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: you guys, you guys didn't have a clean up my house.

1754
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 3: It was disgusting. You should have been thankful that they

1755
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: actually were like, we're gonna clean this up. Here's some

1756
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: cleaning equipment.

1757
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: Do this.

1758
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna come back if it's not clean. If it's

1759
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 3: not clean, Like I said earlier, take take the kid.

1760
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: That they cared enough about you to combine check on

1761
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 2: you and to do that.

1762
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know, they understand that you're going through it.

1763
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 3: And like I said, depression is really crappy, but this

1764
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 3: is not that. That's not an excuse to live in

1765
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: like actual crap.

1766
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: This is this terrifying ough.

1767
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a foul. I think that's what you need.

1768
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 3: That's what you need to do. You go back. If

1769
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 3: it's not clean, you gotta take the kid. Not like

1770
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 3: but like you're like, hey, do you understand the fact

1771
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 3: that she didn't understand that the scissors was already a

1772
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: bad thing?

1773
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably be looking at the next steps.

1774
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: Let alone mold moldy food. Yeah, smelln bad, just all bad. Yeah,

1775
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 3: so yikes, definitely see where it is.

1776
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: Two months.

1777
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm hoping and praying it gets better.

1778
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Goodness gracious, But.

1779
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: That's the other story.

1780
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: Guys.

1781
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: My brother suddenly blocked me, so I don't want to

1782
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,759
Speaker 3: invite him to my wedding.

1783
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: Get that corn out of my face.

1784
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: No blocking here, No, no no. My younger brother, twenty

1785
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 3: nine and baby of the family one day earlier this year,

1786
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 3: stopped calling and answering everyone in the family.

1787
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: Oh.

1788
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 3: He later blocked many family members on social media as well.

1789
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from a user miss Ariel

1790
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: Jones on the r slash Okay storytime subredd it. So

1791
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 3: because I haven't spoken to him in over eight months.

1792
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: I only have assumptions for his actions. I'll briefly list,

1793
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 3: but not go into much detail for his privacy. He

1794
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: and his long term girlfriend broke up end of twenty

1795
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 3: twenty three. We thought they would get married. Uh oh,

1796
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: he was a victim of SA almost two years ago.

1797
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 3: He went to the police, doctor and a therapist, and

1798
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: his assaulter did go to jail for a year.

1799
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay.

1800
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: He just started to have to pay student loans for

1801
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 3: the first time. He begged my mom to sign a

1802
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: parent plus loan for him to go to expensive school

1803
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: out of state. They had an agreement that he would

1804
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 3: pay it back, with my mom helping with half the

1805
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: monthly payment because it's legally in her name and it's

1806
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: based on her income level. He's not doing well financially.

1807
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 3: He makes minimum wage and doesn't budget. Years ago, I

1808
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 3: gave him money to pay his ex back and told

1809
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 3: him never borrow money from a girlfriend again.

1810
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1811
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: He's been trying to start a business related to his

1812
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 3: field of study, but has had many setbacks. He's very

1813
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: stubborn and doesn't like being told what to do, even

1814
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 3: if he needs help. Kind of just threw him under

1815
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 3: the bus. With a lot of things there.

1816
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the complicated sibling. Yeah, complications, but I

1817
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: mean I get it.

1818
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 3: That was a very very strong list of like, Okay,

1819
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 3: this man is going through a lot. Yeah, but do

1820
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 3: you think when he would need help the most? But

1821
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 3: it was stated he doesn't like help. When student loans

1822
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: oh sorry, when student loan payments on froze. My mom

1823
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 3: asked me to speak with my brother to help him

1824
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: with a budget. Since I have a master's in finance

1825
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 3: and I volunteer as a financial coach, I think that's

1826
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 3: gonna be a big part. Yeah, he didn't want my help,

1827
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 3: which is his choice, and I never mentioned it again.

1828
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 3: I work with people from many different backgrounds, including people

1829
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 3: on Section eight and disability. He received only a thousand

1830
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: dollars from the government to live on. I know how

1831
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 3: to adjust my tone for different situations, and I don't

1832
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 3: push people to do things they are uncomfortable with, even

1833
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: if I believe their money decisions are not wise. Growing

1834
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 3: up as the only girl with different interests from my brothers,

1835
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: we didn't bond as much. That sadly had continued into

1836
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 3: our adulthood, going to different high schools. I got accepted

1837
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 3: into an academic school, while my brother went to a

1838
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: more vocational high school and also going to a different

1839
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: university in different states. Therefore, going weeks to a month

1840
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 3: without checking in wasn't odd for us. Plus we'd get

1841
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 3: updates when talking to mom. However, once my mom said

1842
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: he her only child to call her almost every day,

1843
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 3: stopped calling her. I knew it was serious. I texted

1844
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: and called him and realized I was blocked. An aunt

1845
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 3: also expressed she doesn't know what she did to him

1846
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 3: to get blocks either. That's when I decided to give

1847
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: him the space he desired and didn't try my hardest

1848
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: to reach him. Midsummer, my mom called me crying. Oh no,

1849
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: apparently our family dog passed away.

1850
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: Ah.

1851
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: I received the dog as a Christmas gift. He lived

1852
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 3: with me for six years before becoming the family dog

1853
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 3: and traveled like a snowbird from north to south throughout

1854
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: the year, usually living six months with my brother and

1855
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: then would fly to live with Mom in her state.

1856
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: She was so hurt that my brother didn't contact any

1857
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: of the family first before putting a tribute for the

1858
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 3: dog online. Oh, he didn't check in with anyone on

1859
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: the family. O.

1860
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: Wow. What happened.

1861
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: We learned he passed away like everyone else on social media,

1862
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 3: and the dog, though old for his age, was healthy.

1863
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 3: We're not sure if he passed naturally, which we find

1864
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 3: hard to believe, or if there was an accident. Oh,

1865
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 3: we still don't know. Several months later, sad face, I

1866
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 3: was so sad and angry.

1867
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 2: I feel for you.

1868
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 3: I used my boyfriend's phone to call him and the

1869
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: call could not go through. A few months later, my

1870
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: brother's birthday was coming. As I usually ven mail him money.

1871
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what to do. I ended up just

1872
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 3: mailing him a card without money, but a small handwritten

1873
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 3: note and hope that he still lived at the address

1874
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 3: I had saved for him. I didn't need to reply

1875
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 3: or mail back. What what's going on here?

1876
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why do they go? No contact? What was set?

1877
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: What was set? What was done?

1878
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, you're in You're in a

1879
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 3: dark place. But like the if you're in the dark place,

1880
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 3: having family to get you out of it, to get

1881
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 3: get you out of it. Maybe he's Batman. Now for

1882
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: what I need help with? My official boyfriend of six

1883
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 3: months and I are getting married.

1884
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: Congrats rats. Six months is quick.

1885
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: We've just been friends for three years, so I didn't

1886
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: tell my family about him until recently. Therefore, my younger

1887
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 3: brother has no clue at all my boyfriend exists. I

1888
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: flew my mom and other siblings to my state for

1889
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: a week and then they met my boyfriend.

1890
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 2: Nice.

1891
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 3: My boyfriend is from a different country and family is

1892
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 3: very important to him as a person and culturally. He

1893
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,440
Speaker 3: wants my strange brother to attend good on the boyfriend.

1894
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 3: He said he will buy us flights to go and

1895
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: invite him, so basically showing up at his door unannounced

1896
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 3: and hope he's fine to talk with us. Oh boy,

1897
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 3: I think it's a bit much and would prefer other

1898
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 3: ways to contact him first, like reaching out to a

1899
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 3: friend of his on socials to message to my brother.

1900
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 3: But also, even though I want all my family to

1901
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,879
Speaker 3: be at my wedding, including my father who was physically absent,

1902
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: I don't think it's entirely my burden to reach out

1903
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: since he blocked me and others without explanation. Additionally, I

1904
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 3: got insight into his financial situation. My mom received an

1905
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 3: email that the last two of his student loan payments

1906
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 3: returned for insufficient funds. The payment's auto draft from his account,

1907
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: and yes, she has continued to venmo him half the

1908
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: monthly payment despite not being able to communicate. This had

1909
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 3: led me to further assume his financial condition hasn't gotten

1910
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 3: any better this year or he still doesn't budget.

1911
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I don't know, man Rugs rugs, Oh, rugs, Yeah, yeah,

1912
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 7: I think rugs.

1913
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rugs might be playing though.

1914
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: Especially with all everything else going on in his life.

1915
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 3: I think he's using that for Rugs. Yeah, yeah, be

1916
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 3: a factor, I hope not. But the fact that you

1917
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 3: cut off everyone, sure, it could all lead up to this.

1918
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 3: It makes it makes sense my boyfriend, without a second thought,

1919
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 3: would want us to pay for my brother and any

1920
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 3: other family or friends to flies to fly us for

1921
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 3: our US wedding and out of the country for our

1922
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 3: other ceremony ooh two ceremonies. This would absolutely be the

1923
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 3: only option for my brother to attend without going into

1924
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: debt SAE for my other siblings and dad as well. Sadly,

1925
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: I'm the only one who significantly well off and my

1926
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 3: boyfriend makes four times more than I. I just feel

1927
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: some kind of way paying for someone to come to

1928
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 3: my wedding who hasn't talked to me in a whole year.

1929
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: If my brother was a friend and not family, he

1930
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't even be considered on the guest list. So I

1931
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 3: need to help with the next steps to take. What

1932
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 3: is logical and how do I proceed with love? Should

1933
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 3: I try my best to reach out to my brother,

1934
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: including showing up to his house two thousand miles away.

1935
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Should I give him the space he needs to protect

1936
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: his mental health, which unfortunately means him missing big milestones

1937
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: in my life. Should I pay for him to attend.

1938
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 3: If I reach him and he wants to come, what

1939
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: do I say to him if we ever talk? I

1940
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 3: really just want to know what happened to my dog?

1941
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Ooh oh I think I know? Oh do you think?

1942
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Oh no, oh no, like just like for money?

1943
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh dude, I hope not.

1944
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 2: I help. I hope not help things. I hope no.

1945
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 3: You know, we will for you guys to join us

1946
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: live every weekday three pm PSD.

1947
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Just typ our profile it.

1948
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Oh.

1949
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: I think they sold the dog for money? He did?

1950
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: I think he sold the dog for money. I hope

1951
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 3: he didn't. I really hope he didn't. Or maybe maybe

1952
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 3: he did something, you know, he just didn't take care

1953
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 3: of the dog. Yeah, and the dog, or like if

1954
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 3: there was an accident and he just felt so guilty

1955
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: that he's like.

1956
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 2: I have the ties problem.

1957
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: Again.

1958
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1959
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if anything's tied within with

1960
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: the No, I don't know. I don't want to know.

1961
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,440
Speaker 2: Sucks. I hope there's a strange brother's okay.

1962
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: I I yeah. I feel like he's just going through

1963
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Speaker 3: it and he just doesn't want to Maybe he's just embarrassed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's embarrassed that he wants help. He's embarrassed that he's

1965
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Speaker 3: living in the situation, or he's in the situation that

1966
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Speaker 3: just like sucks. It's just it's such a crappy situation.

1967
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but if you're in a crappy situation, you should.

1968
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Speaker 3: It's always okay to ask for help, especially for a

1969
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Speaker 3: family who do care for you.

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Speaker 2: But this is just not good mental health.

1971
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Speaker 3: Wild would I be the a hole if I made

1972
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Speaker 3: no effort to contact and invite my brother to my weddings? Yeah,

1973
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Speaker 3: we never really discussed what would you do with the out.

1974
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Speaker 2: I'd probably reach out to the friends and try to

1975
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Speaker 2: see what's going on.

1976
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Speaker 3: What's going on? I need to know what's going on

1977
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Speaker 3: with my brother? Yeah, like this is this is the

1978
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Speaker 3: fact that he's not even talking to mom is really questionable.

1979
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Speaker 3: But there was like three options. It's like, oh, would

1980
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Speaker 3: you show up to his door unannounced? Would you pay

1981
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Speaker 3: for the wedding even if it was pay for him

1982
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Speaker 3: to come with the flights and everything. Would you just

1983
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Speaker 3: leave him be?

1984
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Speaker 2: Like why would eventually one day probably go to his

1985
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Speaker 2: door unannounced and see if he's there.

1986
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Speaker 3: I just would like to make sure he like I

1987
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Speaker 3: can hear from him, like what's going on before? Yeah,

1988
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Speaker 3: been like, Okay, I'm having a wedding. Yeah, I would

1989
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Speaker 3: love for you to be there. It'll be all paid for.

1990
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Speaker 3: If you want to come, you can come. You need

1991
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 3: maybe you need some just a little vacation, yeah, get

1992
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Speaker 3: some stuff off your mind, get a little bit of sun.

1993
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Speaker 3: Yeah great. But if he's like, oh no, we can

1994
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Speaker 3: give you the space, great, as long as I can

1995
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Speaker 3: hear that you're at least okay, And why are you

1996
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Speaker 3: not talking to us?

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Speaker 2: I think that's the only thing I need.

1998
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Speaker 3: Yeah, closure, at least some closure or idea of what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 2: Right. Sorry, back to the story.

2001
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Speaker 3: So again, would I be the a hole if I

2002
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Speaker 3: made no effort to contact and invite my brother to

2003
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Speaker 3: my weddings. Should I feel guilty for just wanting to

2004
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Speaker 3: continue with my life, creating my own family and let

2005
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 3: them reach out on as a timeline, whether it's in

2006
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 3: five months or five years from now. After reading this

2007
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: a couple of times, I feel I should be more

2008
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 3: sensitive to my brother's mental health struggles, and that means

2009
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 3: giving him space. But I'm also torn because if I

2010
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 3: were my brother, I will want to at least know

2011
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Speaker 3: about my only sister's wedding.

2012
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And that's that's the end of it.

2013
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Speaker 2: Wow, no update, no update.

2014
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Speaker 3: I want to know what there's So we're just something

2015
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 3: with like a a void of like what's going on yet,

2016
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Speaker 3: see if there's an update.

2017
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Speaker 2: I get it.

2018
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Speaker 3: With mental health, you want to give some people space,

2019
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 3: but you also want to know, like you you are

2020
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Speaker 3: backing them, You are supporting them, you have like a

2021
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Speaker 3: hand on their back, like I'm here, but I'm within

2022
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Speaker 3: the reach, yeah, rather than like I'm falling back and

2023
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Speaker 3: I don't know if one's going to catch me.

2024
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Speaker 2: Yeah. This person seeing the brother seems to be in

2025
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Speaker 2: a bad place. I understand, Maybe not for this exact

2026
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Speaker 2: party of meeting the boyfriend. You don't reach out, but

2027
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Speaker 2: I would definitely try to make an effort to go

2028
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Speaker 2: find him the first.

2029
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the first, Like, let me can I I

2030
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Speaker 3: think even though he's having struggles, mental health issues and struggles,

2031
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Speaker 3: you want to at least know, like, hey, I'm here.

2032
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Speaker 3: I know you don't want to talk to us. Yeah,

2033
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Speaker 3: I'm here if you need to talk. By the way,

2034
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Speaker 3: I know we haven't talked. I am getting married. I

2035
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Speaker 3: would love for you to be there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

2037
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Speaker 3: It's two different type of things, but yes, you know,

2038
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Speaker 3: wrap it all in one little tight gift, like, hey,

2039
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Speaker 3: this is a message because we don't know he received

2040
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 3: that birthday card.

2041
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

2042
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Speaker 3: You think you would respond, I don't know. That's very weird.

2043
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 3: I want to know what's there's no update, no update.

2044
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 3: Oh that's it. I really hope their brother's okay.

2045
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, praying that he's all right.

2046
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 3: But that see end with the story. And again that's

2047
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 3: what I would say, is just yea reach out.

2048
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, but if you love us, make sure

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Speaker 2: to subscribe We love you and see you tomorrow.