1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. It's your old pals Josh and Chuck, and 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: you will have the chance to see us live in 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: person for the first time in two years, Friday, January 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: twenty one in San Francisco. Right, Chuck, that's right, we're 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: returning to the stage at Sketch Fest. We're very excited 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: about it. We can't wait to see everyone. It is 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: a VACS only show. Bring your backscard. It is a 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: mask only show. Bring that mask. Can't wait to see 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: a third of your faces. That's right. You can get 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: tickets at s F sketch Fest dot com and again Friday, 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: January one, thirty pm Sydney Goldstein Theater in San Francisco, California. 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: We will see you there. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to the podcast. 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles w Chuck Chuck, Chuck 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: A Luck Bryant. This is gonna be a good one. 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: I can tell by your nickname, Chuck. And this is 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Stuff you should know the podcast the podcast. Oh nice? 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Was that off the cuff? Do you have a written 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: on your nose? It was off the cuff And that's 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: probably about as funny as this one's gonna get. There's 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: not a lot of room for jokes in here. But 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: but Chuck, this is the topic that I didn't know. 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: I wanted to know more about. Oh really, I had 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: no idea when you when you when you threw out 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: palm trees palms, I genuinely was puzzled. I'm like, I 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: have to know what what triggered that, because it's not 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: something that you're walking around. I live around palm trees 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: all the time. They're all over the place and I've 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: never stopped and being like, we should do an episode 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: on palm trees. So what what caused that? Uh? I 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: thought I told you no. No. So then this is 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: very true is I went to Los Angeles to go 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to a sales dinner, as you know. Uh, and so 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: they were bringing a bunch of new sales people on 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: board at my heart, and they had a dinner because 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: they had not met in person, and they said, hey, 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: let's get uh, let's get Chuck out here, because you know, 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Josh didn't want to go. Somebody said, what about Jostin, 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: like just just just chuck believe it. No. I think 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: they just didn't bother because you would have been like, 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: are you serious, uh, just to come say hi and stuff. 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: And we were, you know, the sales people were picking 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: my brain and being inquisitive and saying, how do you 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: get your topics? How do you get your topics? And 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I literally I said, you know, you just look at 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: the world around you and they come to you. And 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: I looked outside in Santa Monica and it said, like 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: palm Trees, that could be an episode, and they said, 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: make it an episode. There's a great ad sales impression, 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: by the way, No, none of them talking like that. 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: In fact, it's quite opposite. Ad sales people are very smooth. 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Oh I'm guessing. So yeah, I mean they saw ads 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: for Pete's sake. Yeah, so they just said wow, really 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: and I said yeah, and in fact, I will do it, 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: and I will dedicate this episode to ad sales. That's awesome. 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the episode that everybody wants to hear. The 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: episode on Palm Trees dedicated to ad sales. That's right. Well, no, 58 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: they do a great job and they keep the show 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: nice and free for everybody. Oh that's right, man, that 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: is right. So hats off to the ad sales people. 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: This one's for you, guys. But that is how it 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: came about. It's just sort of an example of you 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: just sort of look around sometimes. And I lived in 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: l A for quite a few years, as you know, 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: and I loved palm trees. I have a palm tree 66 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: in my backyard. And I was like, wait a minute, 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different kinds and I wish I 68 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: knew more about them. And now I have a very 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: uh unfun podcast episode to do. I don't know, it's 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: fun and that it's super science. And there's a lot too. 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that most people don't know, 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna impart it to them in a approachable manner. Okay, Yeah, 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't as like exciting as I thought. Afterward, I 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: was kind of okay, well, you know what about poor 75 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Dave Rugs, who helped us out with this one. I 76 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: think Dave enjoys the stuff. Okay, I hope. So so 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: we're talking palm trees, Charles, and did you know this, 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: let's start with this. There are more than twenty different 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: species of palm trees. Did you know that when you 80 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: were wandering around l A. No, I knew there were 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: quite a few, but I thought, you know, dozens. Okay, 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: sit there, please continue to sit. Mhm. Did you know 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: that palm trees are in no way, shape or form? Actually, 84 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: I should take that back. They are not actually trees 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: as far as botanists are concerned. I definitely did not 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: know that. Very nice. And then lastly, Chuck, well, let's 87 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: say it. Really, those are the two big crazy facts. 88 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: Palm trees are not trees. And that's a big one 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: because if you look at a palm tree, you say, no, 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: it's a tree. It's got bark, it's very tall, has 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: leaves kind of branch out from it. It's a it's 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: a treat. Don't be ridiculous. And um, again to a botanist, 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: it's not a tree. And we're going to get very 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: very detailed into why it's not actually a tree. Um. 95 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: But it helps if you to to understand this, if 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: you just step back and look at a palm tree, 97 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: even the tallest, biggest palm trees, those ones along Hollywood 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: Boulevard in that Morrissey video. Um that those are giant 99 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: plants and those aren't trunks, those are stems. Yeah, that's 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: that is pretty cool. And a botanist will sell you 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: that a uh, someone else not as hung up on 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the botany might say, well, you know what, they function 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: as trees though, smarty, So take that fact and and 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: stick it where the sun don't shine. And then that's 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of the end of that conversation because they just 106 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: got hostile. Well no, somebody comes in and says, peas, 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: peas children. Let's put it like this. Both palms are upright, 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: tree form plants, and everyone says, thank you, Happy International 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Tolerance Day, everybody. That's right. But palms are closer categorically 110 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: speaking to grasses and grains like something like corn, than 111 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: it is that mighty oak. So again, it's just a tall, 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: giant plant, not a tree, a plant, And in fact, 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: giant is a really good way to put it, because 114 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the growth patterns that um palms undertake 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: are are a form of gigantism. They're like plants on 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: steroids basically. So there you go. That's a good that's 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: some good groundwork for the whole thing. If you ask me, 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: I think so, Uh, maybe we could start at angiosperms. Uh, 119 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: there are about three hundred thousand of those bad boys, 120 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: and these are flowering plants, and I think a lot 121 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: of this stuff people. It may ring a bell to 122 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: like high school biology, because when I was going through it, 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, I learned about this 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: many many years ago. Uh, and it's all kind of 125 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: coming back to me. But um angie sperms of those 126 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: flowering plants that have the seeds in case in the fruit, 127 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: and it's the largest group in the plant kingdom. And 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: within that you've got monocots and die cots, and palms 129 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: are monocots. And that's important because I mean, you can't 130 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: talk about palm trees without talking about the specificity of 131 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: like how they grow and how they how they operate. Yeah, 132 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: because they're in in those details lies why they're not trees, 133 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: why there's something else while they're basically gigantic plants. So 134 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: you said, palm trees are monocots. Die cots are what 135 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: we're used to when we look at a tree. Things 136 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: like elm trees, beach um, uh maple trees, all of 137 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: those are die cots, right. Um. And when you're looking 138 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: at like a pine tree or an evergreen, usually that's 139 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a gymnasperm that's like a completely different kind of uh 140 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: plant altogether. It doesn't have its um seeds and a fruit. 141 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: It bears its seeds on like the outside of like 142 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: a cone or something totally different thing. We don't need 143 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: to talk about gymnasperms again. Instead, we're talking about monicots 144 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: and dicotts, both angiosperms. Right. Uh. And if you've ever 145 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: planted a little die coot seedling, the first thing you're 146 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna notice when it when it pops up out of 147 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the ground is you're gonna have to I think it's 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: called caddleadn. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, And you're gonna 149 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: see two of those, and it's very you know, that's 150 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: why it's called a die coot because there's two. A 151 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: monica like a palm, will only have one. Yeah, And 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: caddleadn is just the first leaves that come out of 153 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: a sprout. And so you've got two, and like you said, 154 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: with the monicott, you've got one. That's a big difference. 155 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: But that's surely not a big enough difference to be like, well, 156 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: palm is not even close to a tree. It's something 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: totally different. You're right, Yeah, it goes on, I guess, 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. The differences continue. It does. 159 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: If you look at a dicott leave. If you take 160 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: like a a maple leaf or an oak tree leaf 161 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: and you look at the back of it or at 162 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: the front, but can really get a good look at 163 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: the back or hold it up in the sun, you'll 164 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: see the little weblike pattern of veins coming off from 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: that central stem on a leaf. That's different on a 166 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: di coot, on a monocot, it does not do that. 167 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: They they run parallel. Veins do from stiff from like 168 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: rear to tip. That's your vein right there, just a tip. 169 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: There's also um. Die coots have something called a cambium layer. 170 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: And this is uh, this is really important to me. 171 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: This is the big differentiator between palm tree and a 172 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: die coott tree like a maple tree. Right, This is 173 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: the big difference is that palm trees don't make wood 174 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: and die cott trees like a maple tree does. And 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: it does that because it has what's called secondary growth 176 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: where it has a bunch of cells xylem and flow 177 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: them cells which are vascular tissues, and they line up 178 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: in a circle and they form a ring in this 179 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: nice tight pattern and they grow outward and outward and outward. 180 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: It every year, so that if you cut a tree 181 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: down and look at the stump that's left. You see rings, 182 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: and those rings are annual growth of spring would in 183 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: autumn wood. But the upshot is is it's actually growing 184 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: would every year. As the tree grows outward, it gains girth, 185 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: and that is secondary growth. And the big distinction between 186 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: monocots and i coots is that monocots don't have secondary growth. 187 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: They don't grow like that. They don't grow outward, they 188 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: grow upward. That's a huge distinction. Yeah, and this is 189 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: where you know it can get a little word parsi um. 190 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Monocots generally do not have secondary growth. Palm trees do 191 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: have a kind of secondary growth, but it's not real 192 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: secondary growth. I think it's what's the what's the word 193 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: for it? Uh, anomalous secondary growth is that the one? Yeah, 194 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: anomalous secondary growth. So, like every plan has primary growth. 195 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: If you go and you shouldn't do this because it's 196 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: bad for the tree. But if you went and carved 197 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: your name into a mighty oak, that that's not gonna 198 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: grow up, that's not gonna be ten feet above your 199 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: head in thirty years because that tree is going outward. 200 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: A palm tree like you said, it grows from the top. 201 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: So when you see a palm, you're gonna generally see 202 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: those palm fronds sticking out of the top of it. 203 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: And if you say, yeah, but there's some underneath it too, 204 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: those are just fronts that haven't fallen off yet on 205 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: the way up right exactly. So another way to put 206 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: it is that palm trees grow up. They don't grow 207 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: out right, but they do have girth yea in some cases, 208 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: I know, girth just the tip growing would good lord, 209 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: oh man, the ad sales people are blushing. Who saw 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: this coming? So, yeah, they do have girth, um, but 211 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: they have girth for a totally different reason. And and like, yeah, 212 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: you can look at a palm tree and be like, yeah, 213 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: it's a huge, it's thick, it's that's a trunk. But 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: some of them are really too. Yeah. I think the 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: biggest one gets to like three feet in diameter. That's 216 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: a big old trunk. But the thing is, if you 217 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: cut a palm tree down and you look down inside 218 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: of it, you're not gonna see neat pattern of tight 219 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: rings of those axylum and flow them cells. They do 220 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: have xylum and flow them cells because those are um 221 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: vascular cells. They carry water, minerals, sugars throughout the plant. 222 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: So all all plants and trees have xylum and flow 223 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: them cells. But in a in a a monocot, like 224 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: a palm tree, they grow just kind of willy nilly, 225 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: and they grow upward. What gives the palm tree it's 226 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: girth is when those vascular cells themselves grow in size. 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: So you've got more vascular cells growing up through the plant, 228 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: through the stem of the plant, which you think is 229 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: a trunk. You have more of them, and then they 230 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: increase in size. That actually increases the girth of the stem. 231 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: But the stem itself is not growing outward. It's not laying, 232 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: it's not adding layers of growth outward because that would 233 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: be secondary growth, and and monocott ston't engage in secondary growth. 234 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: That's right. And the other really cool thing about a 235 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: palm is is and one of the things that uh 236 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: separates monocots from di coots is that monocots don't have 237 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: that central tap root. So if you, uh, if a 238 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: storm came along and pulled up a palm tree, you 239 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: would see where basically where the mom is about to 240 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: call it a trunk. Uh, we'll probably call it a 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: trunk here and there, but it is a stem where 242 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: the stem meets the ground. If it's uprooted, you'll just 243 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: see just a spider web of smaller roots. It doesn't 244 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: have this big, one central tap root from which the 245 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: other roots go. It comes straight from the base of 246 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: that stem. That's right, And those are called um. I 247 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: think we'll get into a little bit later, but it's 248 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: called and votitious root growth, right, Yeah, which is not 249 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: super deep. I think the deepest you're gonna find is 250 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: maybe a few feet. Yeah, but they can really go out, yeah, 251 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: like fifty feet out from from the trunk in either direction. 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: It's um. It's really something to see. But the problem 253 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: is that that also makes them often susceptible to being 254 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: blown over in hurricanes because they often grow along the coast. Yeah, 255 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: and if you if it's a shallow grounded area, you 256 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: can a lot of times you can see a lot 257 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: of that root system sort of sitting level with the ground. 258 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: It's neat in some kinds, I think, including um king palms, 259 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: maybe royal palms that are nice. They look like big 260 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: fat cigars growing out of the bottom of the of 261 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: the tree at the base. It's pretty cool looking. Take 262 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: a break. Oh man, you just you took the words 263 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: right out of my mouth. I think that's a good Uh, 264 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: it's a good teaser for the first part. Yeah, I 265 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: say we take a break and let the ad sales 266 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: people do their thing. Are they going to read the ads? 267 00:14:44,000 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: We'll find out, Okay, okay, Chuck. So it turns out 268 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: the ad salespeople did not read the ads, but they 269 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: did sell them and appreciate one for that. So, um 270 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: palms are actually super duper old. Some of the oldest 271 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: plant fossils we've turned up, and by we, I mean 272 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: you and me specifically our palm um fraunds that are 273 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: upwards of seventy million years old um. But they think 274 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: that they're actually much older than that, because there's a 275 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: theory that palms are found all over the world because 276 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: they were growing on m Gondwana, which is part of 277 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: a super continent after Pangia started to break up. Gondwana 278 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: was one of the big massive pieces of of um 279 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: Earth that started to break up between hundred and eighty 280 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: and a hundred forty five million years ago, and they 281 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: think the palms were like goodbye family, goodbye. As the 282 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: as the land spread out informed the continence as we 283 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: know them today, and then started to do all sorts 284 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: of weird stuff as they evolved in isolation from one another. 285 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: That's right, uh, and weird stuff meaning there can be 286 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: tiny palms that are about you know, five to eight 287 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: inches tall. There is and I encourage people to safely 288 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: look up some of these because it is pretty amazing 289 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: to see the variety. Like when you look up the 290 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: wax palm. Uh, these are the ones I think generally 291 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: found in South America that are so tall and skinny. 292 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you think the one some of those in 293 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: l A are tall and skinny, nothing compared to these 294 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: wax palms where you look at them and they just 295 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: seem to sort of defy gravity, and you wonder, how 296 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: are they not just snapping in a half constantly with wind. 297 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: It's uh um, anomalous secondary growth, that's the answer. But 298 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: those wax palms grow in the mountains in the andies. 299 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: So if you climbed up one of them, I think 300 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: they're up up to two feet tall, which is what 301 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: about seventy meters tall um, and you fell off the top, 302 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: it get even worse because you'd also be falling off 303 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: a mountain, so you don't want to climb a wax 304 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: palm unless you're just a dummy. That's right. Uh, those 305 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: stems that we talked about, the what most people might 306 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: call a trunk, Like we said earlier, they do very wildly. 307 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: Some of them are very small, just a few millimeters, 308 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: and then those, you know, I have different kinds that 309 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: are my favorites. But one of my favorites of those 310 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: really big thick stemmed ones that are sort of load 311 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: to the ground, very big around and have a big 312 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: um just sort of almost like a fireworks display of 313 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: blooms like a palmetto. Now not a palmetto palmettos. I 314 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: don't think you can really see the trunk very much, 315 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: can you. I saw palmetto? I think yeah. I think 316 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: they get tall after a while, they stay short and 317 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: then and then they achieve the correct girth and then 318 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: they grow longer. But I mean, there's twenty so I'm 319 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: sure there is a variety of something to suit your fancy, 320 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, that's exactly right. And 321 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: that one that grows only to be five inches tall 322 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: and has a stemmed just a few millimeters thick, that 323 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: one's called dipsis minuda um and it's pretty cut. That 324 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: was not planned by the Really, Yeah, I don't buy that. 325 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: I swear I will, I will photo copy. I'll scan 326 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: this page and send it to you and you will 327 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: not see it on there. Well, that's because you mean 328 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: is standing with a big Q card in front of you, right, 329 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: That's how I could get away with this, but you 330 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: figured me out. I can't. I think the one that 331 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: we have in our backyard is um a windmill palm, 332 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: and we planted it when we first got to Atlanta. 333 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Emily worked as a producer on a TV commercial and 334 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you might have noticed this a little bit with 335 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: the TV show. Sometimes there's things that you get for 336 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: a TV show or commercial or a movie that you 337 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: can't return or do anything with, and so at the 338 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: end of the job they'll be like, who wants this 339 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: whatever that we can't do anything with? And Emily said, oh, 340 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: we would love that palm tree. Uh. And it was 341 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: kind of small, and we planted it here in Atlanta 342 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: and it is really flourished. They are very easy to 343 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: take care of. You don't really don't do anything and 344 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: they have managed to uh. And this is kind of 345 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: one of the points of how robust they can be 346 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: even though they generally grow in the tropical areas around 347 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: the world. Uh, you know, this thing has had plenty 348 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: of snow on it and plenty of hard freezes in 349 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta over the years, and it's just as healthy as 350 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: can be. Yeah. Now, there's some palms that can thrive 351 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: in zone five B I saw, which is like South 352 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: Nebraska and South Iowa. The needle palm does just fine there. 353 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: So Jersey short palms that said, yeah it has like, um, 354 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: like bleached orange spikes rather than green fronds. That wasn't 355 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: written down either. I like that one. Um. But yeah, 356 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: it's just like plus species, they're gonna learn to adapt everywhere. 357 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: And they've been around for hundreds of millions of years, 358 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: so they've actually gotten pretty good at doing things like 359 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: putting up with snow, which is surprising because again you 360 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: kind of associate the palms with like a tropical rainforest, 361 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: and for good reason, because they are found a lot 362 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: in tropical rainforests all throughout around you know, right above 363 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: and below the equator around the world. Um. Apparently in 364 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the Amazon they make up six of all the trees 365 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: that you'll find there, so they're pretty successful as far 366 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: as um as far as plants go, gigantic plants, that's right. Uh. 367 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Should we talk a little bit about what what makes 368 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: up a palm tree? We've talked a little bit about it. 369 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, there are those roots that extend way way 370 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: out in a pretty shallow manner. Uh, there is that 371 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: elongated stem. And one thing you'll notice when you're looking 372 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: at a palm stem or if you want to go 373 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: up and hug one of those guys, is sometimes you 374 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: might get hurt. Uh. It is it doesn't have bark, 375 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: it has the scars of of fronds it came before. 376 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: And depending on what kind of tree that is, it 377 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: could be it can be kind of smooth, but usually 378 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: they're kind of rough, and sometimes they're they're really rough 379 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: and kind of uh pointing and spiky. Yeah, for sure, Um, 380 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: I think people kind of trim those kind back a 381 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: little bit. But um, I've all I was also reading 382 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: about over trimming them that you don't really want to. Um, 383 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: you don't want to trim them too much, and you 384 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: definitely don't want to trim any kind of palm frond 385 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: that isn't totally brown and crusty, musty, because if it's 386 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: not even if it's yellow, that means that there's still 387 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of nutrient stores in there, just hanging out, 388 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: and the palm is like, hey, you just used up. 389 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: You just took a lot of my energy away. So um, 390 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: you want them typically either fall off naturally like they do, 391 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: or wait until they're just so brown and desiccated that 392 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: that even you can tell this this palm front can 393 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: be taken off without hurting the tree. But um, it's 394 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: pretty obvious. It is pretty obvious. But I thought was 395 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: really interesting is is um the idea that that's that's 396 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: not bark. Those are just like leaf remains, the remains 397 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: of basically where the leaf hit the tree at one time. 398 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: And it looks if you if you look, Dave points 399 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: us out, and I never really put it into words before, 400 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: but it's exactly true. It looks like the palm fronds 401 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: have been moving down the base of the tree, forming 402 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: this trunk all the way down, or forming the bark 403 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: all the way down. But really the stem has been 404 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: growing up and out of each leaf scar that's left 405 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: behind that forms what looks like the bark. So it's 406 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: almost like an optical illusion of palm tree. Yes, yeah, 407 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: I kind of get what he's saying there, Like, have 408 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: you ever have you ever driven next to a car 409 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: and the wheels are spinning so fast that they start 410 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: to look like they're they're spinning backwards much more slowly. Yeah, 411 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: I think it's akin to that. Do you know what 412 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say? Is that thing where 413 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: you where the car next to you you see out 414 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: of your peripheral vision starts to move and you think 415 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: you're rolling forward and drink out a little bit and go, 416 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: oh my god. Yeah, that's even better. I like that 417 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: one even more. But it has nothing to do with 418 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: palm trees. No, it does, because they're all optical illusions. Okay, okay, um. 419 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: Should we talk a bit about Well, we talked about 420 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: how they grow. They grow from the top. When those 421 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: when those leaves pop out of the top, it's it's 422 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: called a spear and it pops out of what's called 423 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: the apical meristem or the apical meristem, And that's the 424 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: thing that's uh, you know, if a tree, if it 425 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: were a di coot, that's where the wood would be 426 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: growing from. But it's not. It depends so so they 427 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: both have apical maris stems from what I can tell, 428 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: But the tree has a lateral maristem as well, and 429 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: that's where that girth around the sides grows to make 430 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: it wider, the witty girth. But the thing another thing 431 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: that differentiates UM. Another thing that differentiates the palm tree 432 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: from a diet tree is that a die cout tree 433 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: has a bunch of different places where it has an 434 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: apical maris stem, and those we call branches the place 435 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: where branches grow off. So an apical meristem is wherever 436 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: primary growth, which is upright UM vertical growth of a 437 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: plant comes from, Like a maple tree has a bunch 438 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: of them. Those are the branches and then eventually like 439 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: smaller branches and even into the leaves. That's all apical 440 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: meristem growth. A palm tree has one place aside from 441 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: the roots, one place on the entire plant where it 442 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: is growing. Everything else is already grown gone left a 443 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: scar behind um them or it even looks like it's growing, 444 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: but it's it's already grown, and it's just sitting there 445 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: photosynthesizing like a big old palm front. But right in 446 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: the middle of the top of the plant is the 447 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: apical meristem, and that's where those new leaves shoot up from, 448 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: and that's where the xylem and flow divide and growth occurs. 449 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: And that's it. There's the one spot, and that's it 450 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: for the palm. Yeah. And if you if you have 451 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: a palm near you and it's low enough to see 452 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: the top of it pretty well, you will see many 453 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: times among all those beautiful green fronds um sometimes like 454 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: big windmill fans, you'll see that little spiky thing sticking 455 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: kind of straight up, and that's called the spear, and 456 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: it will unfold into the frond and it will it 457 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: will become a beautiful front. At one point it's almost 458 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: like ah, so it's almost like a caterpillar becoming a 459 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: beautiful butterfly, except as a leaf. Except as a leaf. 460 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: And if you've ever seen the palms that have you know, 461 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: we we talked about the stem, how it's just sort 462 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: of that rough scar all the way up. Sometimes you'll 463 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: see him that have a really smooth green part that 464 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: kind of looks like uh. And we'll get to coconuts 465 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of looks like the very outside of a big coconut. 466 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: That's called the crown shaft. The king palm is famous 467 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: for these, and that's that little smooth green section between 468 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: where the trunk is rough and where the leaves pop 469 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: out of the top right, and all those are are 470 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: the like layered leaves folded around the top of the stem. 471 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: And as they as those leaves unfold and become fronds 472 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: and hang out and photosynthesize, and then the energy stores 473 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: that they have is used up and they fall off. 474 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: Those kinds of palms, they fall off very cleanly, so 475 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: compared to other rougher um rougher exterior palms, like a 476 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: king palm is very smooth, even below the crown shaft 477 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: where it's kind of gray and layered in horizontal stripes. 478 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: That's but those are still scars left from the leaves 479 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: that used to be attached there, that unfolded at the 480 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: crown shaft and grew and lived and died and then 481 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: fell off. There's so many weird sexual innuendos with palm trees. 482 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I had no idea, no idea. It explains a lot 483 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: about how I felt about palm trees for a long time. 484 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: I had no idea. It probably doesn't hurt that we're 485 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: twelve years old, because there are plenty people out there, like, 486 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: what have they been talking about? Yeah, that's true. Those 487 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: are eight years old. Uh. So let's talk about these 488 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: palm fronds or the palm leaves. Uh. There are a 489 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: few different kind of shapes they can take. Uh, there's 490 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: the feather like pinnate. Uh. If you see a coconut palm, 491 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna see as a couple of 492 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: rows of those of those leafs kind of sprawling out 493 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: from that central rib down the middle. That rib is 494 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: called a ratcheus, and where it meets and this is 495 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of sort of you know, technical talk here, 496 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: but the thick part where it actually meets the trunk, 497 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: that's called the petiole. Yeah, where the rat ratchetus meets 498 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: the trunk, right, that's right. And then those leaves are 499 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: all individual. They're just connected. The only place where they 500 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: join is that that rack is at the central rib um. 501 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: But other than that, they're not connected, which makes them 502 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: different from a palmate um type of half. Those are good. 503 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: Those are those are really good. I think palmate might 504 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: be my favorite. Where they're there, they seemed disconnected, but 505 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: if you follow them back to their terminal point where 506 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: they connect to the branch. You'll see that they're all 507 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: connected at one central point and they're kind of fanned 508 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: out almost in a circle or semicircle, radiating away from 509 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: that one central point where they're all connected. Um, and 510 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: that's that central point is called the hastula. So that's palmate. 511 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: That's another good one. And there's cost to palmate, right, Yeah, 512 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: the cost of poll made is a little bit of both. 513 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: If you like a little pinnate, you like a little 514 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: palm mate, then you get your cost to palm mate. 515 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: That is the fan shape as well, and it is 516 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: attached to a central rib called a costa, and that 517 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: it's extends from that pettiole into that leaf blade. Uh. 518 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: You know when it's it's interesting when these things fall off, 519 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: those those fan shaped ones and you gather them off 520 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: the ground, you really get a sense of their potential uses, 521 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: which you know, we'll talk about that stuff a little 522 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: bit later, but like primitive uses as a fan or 523 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: as a broom or you know, they're all kinds of things. Things. 524 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: When you have a big handful of those those dead 525 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: palm fronds, you can see even you know here in 526 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: modern times, like I could see how this could be useful. Yeah, 527 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: just think about how much thought the writers of Gilligan's 528 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Island put into that. Yeah right, I can't watch that 529 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: show anymore. How about you. I haven't tried in a 530 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: long time. Why why not? I think it's just rain 531 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: its course in my brain. It was great when I was, 532 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, a younger person. Now I'm like, this is 533 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: I can't watch this. Yeah. I had a recurring dream 534 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. The first recurring dream I 535 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: remember had to do with Gilligan's Island. But it was scary, 536 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: like the boat was washed ashore on the beach, and 537 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: I remember I was in the back kind of hiding, 538 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: uh from somebody who was trying to get me or something. 539 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: But I had that dream over and over for a while. 540 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: So wait a minute, somebody was trying to get you 541 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: while you were in the ship that was being shipwrecked. No, 542 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: it had already been shipwrecked, and it was just like, 543 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, a shipwrecked boat on shore that I was 544 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: hiding and like behind the back seat, did you ever 545 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: figure out who it was? No? You know, I don't 546 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: think I've ever had a recurring dream. All of my 547 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: dreams are all original material. Every time Huh, that's interesting. 548 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I think so too. Did you have imaginary friends? No? No, no, 549 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: they seem silly and superfluous to me. Someone just the 550 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: only reason I've thought of that is because someone sent 551 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: that in as a as a request and saying that 552 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: imaginary friends is a sign of later successes in various 553 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: ways supposedly. Well, that explains a lot as well. But 554 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: look at you now. I don't know, but think about 555 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: how successful I could be if I had had imaginary friends. 556 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I could be president of the world. My daughter has 557 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: what she calls ghost friends and always has and now 558 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: ghost parents, and we wonder sometimes if that is something 559 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: to do with being adopted, oh yeah, or if it's 560 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: just the regular imaginary friend thing with kids, or your 561 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: house is haunted and she can see things you can't, 562 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: or that that's number three be pretty awesome. I mean 563 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: she's spelling it out for you. Chalk right there. All right? 564 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: Should we take another break? Sure? All right, we'll talk 565 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: about those uh not so beautiful palm flowers right after this. 566 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: All right, If you've ever walked past the palm tree 567 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: and you've seen a what looks like a blob of 568 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: yellow or orange, orange is a big one. Yeah, I mean, 569 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: what do they even look like? They look like just 570 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: a little tiny grape bunches, but but not really. They're 571 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: not very attractive to me, But I guess beauties in 572 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: the eye the beholder. Those are palm, the flower of 573 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: the palm tree. So one thing I have to say, though, is, 574 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: Chuck you you would probably have your eyes open if 575 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: you spend a little time on Google images looking at 576 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: different palm inflorescences. Some of them are okay, yeah, there's 577 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: some that are just straight up dazzling. I saw one 578 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: that was like a nice pink and it looks like 579 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: a really tight like you now, sometimes people have like 580 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: dreadlocks that are have been around so long they actually 581 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: merged into one big dread It looks like that, but 582 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: like a pinkish purple, yes, but a hot pinkish purple 583 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: version of that. It's very pretty. Um And again, there's 584 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: like twenty undred or more species of palm, so there's 585 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different variety. But that said, I agree 586 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: with you, most of the palm inflorences inflorenceances I've ever seen, 587 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: or not pretty at all. I think what my problem 588 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: is is I feel like it disturbs even the pretty 589 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: ones that it doesn't jibe with the rest of the look. Yeah, 590 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: so it looks like like a really attractive person wearing 591 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: maybe a really nice hat, but that doesn't go with 592 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the outfit. Okay, all right, I totally 593 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: get your meaning, and I think you nailed it. It 594 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to fit in. But you keep calling 595 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: them inflorescences instead of flowers. What do you mean by that? Well, 596 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean inflorescence is just another name for a palm flower, 597 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: and palm is a It's an antio sperm, which is 598 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: by definition, a flowering plant. It just doesn't look like 599 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: what you and I would think of as flowers, but 600 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. And with the palm, from 601 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: what I can tell, everything is a frond. It's some 602 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: sort some version of a frond, and the inflorescence is 603 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: no no exception. It's a specialized, weirdo version of the 604 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: of the palm frond that grows out and depending on 605 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: the kind of palm, it's going to have either male flowers, 606 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: female flowers, or it's going to have male and female 607 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: flowers in which cases off pollinating. And the upshide of 608 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: all this is is when the female flowers get pollinated, 609 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: they will produce fruit. And because we're talking abouferent species 610 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: of palms, you get a lot of different kinds of 611 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: fruit that come along. Yeah, it's it's pretty interesting actually, 612 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Like if you look at your standard coconut palm that 613 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: has both the male and female parts, so that makes 614 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: it monoecious. Uh, this is stuff that we learned in 615 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: high school biology. Again, I haven't seen that word in 616 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: so long, I know, I even was calling it monoecious 617 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: for a while. I was like, I, No, that's not right, 618 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: that's what I was remember. No, it's monoecious and dioecious. 619 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: Those ohs are silent and dioecious. Palms only have male 620 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: flowers or female flowers. Uh. And like you said, depending 621 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: on the fruit. You know, if you're if you're a 622 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: coconut palm, uh, then you're gonna have both, but you 623 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: gotta fertilize that that female flower. If you're a date palm, uh, 624 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: it's dioecious, so you can only harvest from the l tree. 625 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: But you need to have both again to fertilize and 626 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: get that delicious bad date. But that is dates are 627 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: actually a fruit from palms from appropriately enough date palms. 628 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't either, and dates are 629 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: delicious in this um. Researching this made me want this. 630 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: But I if I had to choose, I'm a fig 631 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: person for sure. Or figs from a palm? No, no, 632 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: big tree. Yeah, but there's like, you know, dried fruit 633 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: dates and figs. They're so they're so you know, uh, 634 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: they seem to go hand in hand. So I don't 635 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: think you have to choose, which is is just a 636 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: stupid thing to even bring up. I'm sorry I did well. 637 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever had. In fact, I 638 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: can almost say certainly I've never had a fresh date, 639 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: like right off of a tree. You mean, yeah, like that, 640 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, not dried and not like raisins or fig style, 641 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: but like in the Raider's Lost Ark, the bad date. 642 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: Those are bad dates, bad dates. It's right that poor monkey, 643 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it was an evil monkey, but I think 644 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: he was trained to be evil. Oh you think with 645 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: the Nazi salute? Yes, I don't think he was born 646 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: knowing how to do that. I think he was trained 647 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: to do that and it made him a bad, bad monkey. 648 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: But I still don't think he deserved to be poisoned 649 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: by bad dates. You know that movie is uh has 650 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: been under fire in recent years because of the the 651 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: nature of India's relationship with Marilyn Marian and how old 652 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: she was. Oh yeah, and he's also like fairly rough 653 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: with her as well. Yeah, but there's this there's those 654 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: lines at the beginning where he talks about you know, 655 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: you know what you were doing, you know, I was 656 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: a child or whatever. And I think for many years 657 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: everyone's just like, yeah, whatever, and then someone's like, wait 658 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: a minute, how much of a child was she? And 659 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: I think people have tried to do the math over 660 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: the years to work it out so with the time 661 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: period where it wasn't that bad. But I do know 662 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: that in discussion this something I talked on movie Crush 663 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: a little bit about. But Lucas and Spielberg, when they 664 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: were discussing it all at the beginning, one of them 665 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: was pushing at the time for him to make it 666 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: like creepy, Like no, man, let's make it really young 667 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: and make it really kind of a bad thing that 668 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: he did. Was that George Lucas doing that? I think 669 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: it might have been. I don't know. I should look 670 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: all the stuff up so I'm not you know, I'm glad. 671 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: Spielberg was like, yeah, yeah, great idea, A great idea. 672 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: We'll definitely will workshop that later. Uh. Anyway, bad dates, 673 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: bad dates, and um dates. By the way, Chuck, are droops, 674 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: as are all palm fruits. Did you know that? I 675 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't know that, but I did know that they were 676 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: similar to peaches and olives, and say, what peaches and cream? Yeah, 677 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: peaches and cream. And in the way that they they 678 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: had that hard outer that kind of stony like covering 679 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: around the seed, right, but they're usually also covered with 680 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: some sort of flesh that we like to eat. Um, 681 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: that's not always the case. So I think coconuts are 682 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: the reverse of that. So like, if you're eating like 683 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: a peach, the seed itself is that hard is inside 684 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: the hard pit in the fruit. The coconut seed. No, 685 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: a coconut is the opposite of that. It's got that hard, 686 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: woody outer shell you can knock, knock, knock on, just 687 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: and have some fun with before you It's exactly right, Chuck, 688 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: nice Um that you're m actually knows that's the endocarp 689 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: the hardest part that you knock on the carpet. You're 690 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: talking about the hard green outer most layer. No, that 691 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: would be the exocarp. The endocarp is the hard brown, 692 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: woody one that that you can knock on and then 693 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: you can use as a bowling ball island exactly or 694 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: like a tiki cocktail cup all again on Killick's island. Um. 695 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: And uh, it's the stuff inside that that's the actual seed, 696 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: and that's what we eat in the coconut, the the 697 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: endosperm and the liquid endosperm um, the stuff you eat 698 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: from a coconut, that's actually the seed that you're eating 699 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: where it's like a peach, you're eating the outside of 700 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: the meat that's outside of the of the seed, right, 701 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: And that indo sperm is the the solid part is 702 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: that flesh, that white, delicious nous coconut. And then the 703 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: coconut water is the liquid into sperm. So if you 704 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: next time your friend is having a coconut water, to 705 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: sco up to them and say, entroy the liquid indo 706 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: sperm and they'll say, what are you talking about? You 707 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: can't say stuff like that. They'll do a spit take. 708 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: I hope not. Because that coconut water is delicious, it 709 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: is and expensive too. And if you're like, well, wait 710 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: a minute, I thought coconut water was coconut milk. You 711 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: are wrong, wrong, wrong. Coconut milk is taking coconut meat, 712 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: grating it up into a paste and then adding water 713 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: to that. That that's coconut milk. That's delicious too, it is, 714 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: it's super high. In fact, if they're really healthy fats, understand, 715 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: that's a good fat and it um. I'm not a 716 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: big sort of Caribbean drink cocked guy. But oh you 717 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: don't like the tinky drinks. No, I'm not really into them, 718 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: just a little too sweet. I mean maybe one of them, 719 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: but uh, they're a little sweet for me. But that 720 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: that coconut milk man with some with some rum is 721 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: a really nice combination. You know, people have been drinking 722 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: that for eons for good reason. They sure have. You 723 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: know what else they've been drinking even longer than that, 724 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: chuck a little something called palm wine. Oh yeah, so 725 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that this existed, but it sounds awesome. 726 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: But you're there are a lot of different kinds of 727 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: palm species that you can tap, including I think coca yeah, 728 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: coconut palms and date palms and the Chilean wine palm, 729 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: which they're like, well, yeah, of course, but you can 730 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: tap the sap of these things and what comes out 731 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: contacts the air and just a little bit amount of 732 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: like microbes in the air that come in contact with 733 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: the stuff immediately cause it to start to ferment, and 734 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: within hours it has gone from palm sap to an 735 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage. And then hours after that, within about a 736 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: day or so of it being tapped, it turns into vinegar. 737 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: So you have to drink this stuff which turns into 738 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: like a four percent alcoholic drink just by sitting out 739 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: in the air a few hours after it's tapped, within 740 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: a day of tapping it, yeah, which is why it 741 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: is one of the oldest boozes because you could get 742 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: it quickly and pretty naturally, you didn't have to do 743 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: anything for And apparently they've caught monkeys actually drinking it too. 744 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, like it. They I think they found 745 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: evidence that of humans drinking it as far back as 746 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: eighteen thousand years ago. It's a very long time um 747 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: and that because they've caught um like primates other primates 748 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: drinking it's possible that it goes even further back in 749 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: our evolutionary history. Very interesting. I thought so too. There's 750 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: also palm oil, uh that is in food products, It's 751 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: in a lot of um skin products. It is uh 752 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: sort of an environmental disaster these days. There are plantations 753 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: in Indonesia Malaysia where basically you just clear cut forest 754 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: to plant more palms to get palm oil. And getting 755 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: um quote unquote sustainably sourced palm oil is difficult, too 756 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: impossible for your products. Uh. There are some people that 757 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: say there is no such thing and that if it's 758 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: something is labeled officially sustainable, They're like, well, no, just 759 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: go back fifteen or twenty years and there was once 760 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: natural forest growth there too. So it's kind of a 761 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: meaningless title when just a handful of years have to 762 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: go by before you say, oh no, no, no, this 763 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: this palm field was here already. Like from what I understand, 764 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: this is just not the case. Yeah. That was one 765 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: of those things where I looked into I was like, 766 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: oh good, another reason to to um be pessimistic and 767 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: loose hope. There's the akai those little kai berries. I 768 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: didn't know they came from palms? Is it a kaya 769 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: tho asi? I've always said a kai, but it's probably 770 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: a sid never said it out loud. So there it's 771 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: like supposed to be a super food rich in antioxidants, 772 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, that rings a bell. We did 773 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: an episode in anti oxidants, did we did? We surmise 774 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: that it's BS And I went back and I read 775 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: a transcript of it and um, it may bee So 776 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: take that however you like. But it definitely does have 777 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: all sorts of antioxidants, including antho cyanins, because that's where 778 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: it has its purple color from the s E does Okay, 779 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: is it really a sai? I feel foolish as I've 780 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: never heard it said. Well, now you have from your 781 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: good pal Josh. I don't think I've ever said it 782 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: out loud until now in front of millions of you. 783 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: Are right, So it's no biggie. You've got the hearts 784 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: of palm, of course, that you'll find usually in a 785 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: can on a shelf in your grocery store. Is that's 786 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 1: the apical Maris stem chuck. That is it's just about 787 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: to say that, and it is right there at the core. 788 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: You get them in Hawaii and Costa Rica or places 789 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: in South America, and you chopped that thing down and 790 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: it's got that little, that little tender core. And the 791 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: reason it's usually in a canus because it's doesn't last 792 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: very long. Yes, uh so it's pickled typically, right yeah? Um? 793 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: What about battle nuts? Did you know about those before? 794 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: Because I had heard of them, but I had no 795 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: idea what the video was. I knew. I knew about 796 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: them because I know that chewing them, which is popular 797 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: in certain Asian countries, is can be really bad for you. 798 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: It can make your teeth like red and black and 799 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: give you cancer. But it's a stimulant, right, Yeah, it 800 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: gives you a pretty good butt, so it all works 801 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: out in the end, does it really? Something like of 802 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: the people in the world chew battle nuts and that 803 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: makes it the fourth most used um psychoactive um material 804 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: I guess or substance after um nicotine, caffeine, alcohol and 805 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: then battle nuts. What about rich hand If you've ever 806 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: been to peer one import since sat in a in 807 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 1: a wicker one? Are those things called the big bowl? 808 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: Oh papasan chick papasan that is made from palm ritan, uh, 809 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: from Ritan palms, and it's very hardy. And you know 810 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: how I mentioned that those fronds are very useful, Like 811 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: this is the stuff over the years that they use 812 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: faun fronds for for rooftops and ratan to make really 813 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: strong furniture, very useful. Yeah, I had no idea, but 814 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: ratan has really wicked mean barbs and thorns sticking off 815 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: of it because it uses it to climb up other trees. 816 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: Um and the stem is really pliable. It's not you know, upright, 817 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: but it grows vertically, but it's like a vine. And 818 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: apparently the stem can get up to like five feet long. 819 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of pure one wicker, 820 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of wicker. What was the name of that chair? 821 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember the chair that they would sit in 822 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: for prom pictures in the seventies, the eyes a case 823 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: like Moses, Yes, yeah, exactly. I don't know. There's a throne, 824 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: sort of throne. That's exactly right. That's a chair too. 825 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: So I guess we should finish up with a couple 826 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: of little fun facts. One of them. Dave included a 827 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: few of these. The double coconut palm has uh. I 828 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the largest seed. Is it the 829 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: largest one in the world? Yes? Okay, A mature coconut 830 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: from that double coconut palm can weigh about ninety pounds 831 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: and the seed inside is about fifty five. And Dave said, uh, 832 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: something about the way they look I can't remember exactly 833 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: how he put it, suggestive, suggestive. And I looked it 834 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: up and it looks like a butt. Oh, that's not 835 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: what it suggested to me. I thought it looked like 836 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: a butt in an an anus. Did you think it 837 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: looks like female parts? No, just but just come around 838 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: to the other side of a dude. You thought it 839 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: looked like a scrotal sack. Yes, yeah, well put I 840 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: thought it looked like a button, a butt hole. No, 841 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: it looked like I mean, I could see how you 842 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: would think that, But it looked like a scrotal sac 843 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: to me. I thought that was the avocado. That's that's what. Yeah, 844 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: for sure, avocado has got it going on too. I've 845 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: got one more fact? What else? What else do you have? Nothing? 846 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: I want to hear your last fact? Well, I think 847 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: it'd be kind of fun to just talk about what 848 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: happened in Florida with all those palms. Oh yeah, I'd 849 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: love to do that. This is a good one. This 850 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: the reason Florida has so many palms is because of 851 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: a shipwreck in January of eight seventy eight, the Spanish 852 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: brigantine that the Providencia crash landed with a bunch of 853 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: coconuts on board. Yeah, coconuts and a bunch of other stuff. 854 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: But there were like twenty thousand coconuts, and a guy 855 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: named William lane Heart who was one of the early 856 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: pioneers along this this um like um settlers of European descent, 857 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: i should say, along this stretch of Florida Beach where 858 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: this this shipwreck happened. I bought the whole um shipwreck 859 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: and all of its cargo for like twenty dollars and 860 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: proceeded to try to sell the coconuts for what was it, 861 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: like two cents each or a half of two and 862 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: a half cents, and he sold about a thousand but 863 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: still it's like a couple of hundred bucks. He like, 864 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, ten times over. And then he said, 865 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna plant the rest of these 866 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: I think it would be easier than trying to drum 867 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: up a market for these things. And that's it. That's 868 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: where palm beaches now. Yeah, the all of the coconut 869 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: um palms that you see, they are not native. They 870 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: are descended from that original shipwreck cargo of coconuts. Very 871 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: very cool. It is very cool indeed. And also check 872 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: they mentioned Henry Flaggler in there is Founding Palm Beach 873 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 1: and West Palm Beach and he if college that's right, 874 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: and Flagler County. He was like an old Ford executive 875 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: who made his money, uh well from working at Ford 876 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: early on and then started like a railroad and then 877 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: started like founded Palm Beach and was just fabulously wealthy. 878 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I know we've talked about going 879 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: to Providence, Rhode Island and touring some of those old 880 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: Gilded Age mansions. He has one in Palm Beach. So 881 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: if you ever make your way down to Palm Beach, 882 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: go see the Flaggler House Museum. It's one of the 883 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: most amazing houses you will ever walk in in your 884 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: entire life. It's astounding. I will check that out. My 885 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: uh best friend from high school uh rad the uh 886 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: map drawer of the cartographer. Yeah, he went to Flagler. 887 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: So I went to and this was in St. Augustine though, 888 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: but um, I went to Flagler. A couple of times 889 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: in St. Augustine is a lovely town. We'll just make 890 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: your your way a little further south a couple of 891 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,439 Speaker 1: hours down to Palm Beach and check out Flaglers. I'll 892 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: do it. Okay. Uh, Well, since Chuck said I'll do it, 893 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: that means, of course, everybody, it's time for listener mayo. 894 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this Josh and the Simpsons. I'm sure 895 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: you saw this. I figured we could just answer this 896 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: on the air because I think I know the answer 897 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: is worried about this, Hey guys, that we were going 898 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: to read it. Okay, hey, guys, just listen to the 899 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: hot Dog episode. I was a little surprised at Josh 900 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: let the whole episode go by without citing Homer's famous 901 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: line about hot dogs from the episode where he tries 902 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: to get into the grease business. Then I realized this 903 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: is a phenomenon I've noticed several times. Like Josh, I'm 904 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: a Simpson super fan, so I feel like I have 905 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: to take issue with everyone who has written in to 906 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: say you missed this quote or citation. On the contrary, 907 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: what's happening, I think is Josh's biting his tongue and 908 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: letting I would guess one to three opportunities passed by 909 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: for episode because he doesn't want to be known primarily 910 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,479 Speaker 1: is that Simpson's dork and avoid owing royalties to Matt graining. Josh, 911 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: please validate my hunch that is from g. You're not 912 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: holding your tongue, are you. Occasionally I do, actually, very 913 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: very rarely. I think g is giving me way too 914 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: much credit. And at the risk of of sounding like 915 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: a fraudulent Simpsons fan, there are a ton of references 916 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: that people right in and be like, you walked right 917 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 1: past this one, and I'll be like, I don't remember 918 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: that one at all, or I totally forgot about it. 919 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. But every once in a 920 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: while I will hold it back because you just have 921 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: to keep the proportion of Simpson's fandom like at a 922 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: at a certain threshold. Other than that stuff you should 923 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: know is like, it's stuff you should know. The Simpsons 924 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: fans were more well rounded than that. So yes, every 925 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: once in a while, I do, not three times an episode. No, 926 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's a that's over crediting me 927 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: for sure. Fantastic. Well, thanks again, Gene. If you want 928 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: to be like G and ask a question or see 929 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: if your hunch is confirmed. Send it to us via 930 00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: email to stuff podcast at iHeart radio dot com. 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