1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental health 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: podcast with Jay Glazer and with teammates coming all sorts 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: of you know, different ways for me, and you just 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: never know. As I started talking more about my mental 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: health issues and depression anxiety, I started finding teammates I 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't know, we're out there for me. You just never know. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: And that's why it's so important to be vulnerable. It's 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: why it's so important to open up because you never know. 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: You could have a hidden teammate on your right or 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: your left, or you may have a teammate that just 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: needs help that you don't know they need help. Because 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: so many of us are still hesitant to talk about this. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Somebody who's not hesitant to talk about it. And again 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: one of my new teammates i'd like to refer to 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: people as my teammates as Kalon Jackson, who is vice 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: chair and part owner or owner or the Indianapolis called 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: the youngest of Jim marcais three daughters. But also she's 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: doing such an incredible thing with the kicking the stigma mission, 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: and of every team in the NFL out there, nobody's 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: doing more for mental health than the cults. And the 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: reason why is because it's being spearheaded by my team 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: out over here. Kaitlin Jackson, how are you good? I 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: love this my teammate thing. I'm gonna deal that. You know. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: When I go in and I talked to these teams 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: about mental health, I tell them all, guys, look, mental 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: health is so reactive nowadays, it's got to be more proactive. 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: So you guys, don't just like the players on your team. 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: They don't just catch passes when they get drops, and 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: they don't just you know, run forties or sprint when 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: they feel like they're getting slow. Right, You're doing it constantly, 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: So why aren't we putting the same in the mental 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: health And the reason why a lot of it is 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: just not enough therapist yet. So you're gonna start leaning 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: into each other, your teammates. You've got all these teammates 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: on your right and your left in that that locker room. 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Lean into them. The more you can lean into them, 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the more they could be there for you. So that's 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: where for me, Kaylin, I've needed teammates for I've always fought, 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: so a fight team. I have my foxing a Sunday team. 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: I have God as a teammate, my rescue pits a teammate. 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: I need teams because depression anxiety makes you feel so 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: damn alone, so lonely. So that's where the teammate thing 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: comes from. And that's what I'm saying, You're my teammate. 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Well that's why I love it, because as you were 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: saying it, I was thinking, like who am I? You know? 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Who am I? And who you know? Who makes up 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: my and I kind of I call like my mental toolkits, 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: So like those teammates are all part of my toolkit 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: in a way, you know, whether it be exercise or 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: journaling or even puzzling for me or music and then 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: my family and my girls and all of that. So 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: I was starting to, you know, as you were saying, 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and I was starting to do it myself, like who 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: are mine? And thankful to say I have a big team. 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: So they do you do? Okay, So tell me why 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: you started? Well, this is so important why you started 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: this whole initiative with the cults, and then now the 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: league is really diving in as well. Yeah, so for everyone, 61 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I think because the timing was in but really we 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: had decided that mental health was gonna be a big 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: initiative for us right before the pandemic hit. So that's 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: towards the end of twenty nineteen, we had, you know, 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: kind of had a conversation. My older sister kind of 66 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: challenged me with you know, we do so much in 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: the community, but we've never picked something that was really 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: our families. You know, if we were to pick something 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: that was initiative of ours, what would that be UM, 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: And of course there were more than just mental health. 71 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: It was important to us. But because of our you know, 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: personal experiences and lived experiences with mental health, not just 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: within our own immediate family UM, but also you know, 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: extended family friends, it felt like such a no brainer. 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: And then when we looked into the statistics, that's really 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: what sealed the deal because I think, you know, the 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Colts since we have come here in the eighties, you know, 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the big part of who we are is community and 79 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: community involvement and showing up where we're needed. But for 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: the first time, I felt almost ashamed that I didn't 81 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: know that the numbers were that bad. When it's something 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: that one I live here. I you know, I live 83 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: and breathe this community I have since I was born here. 84 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: And then on top of it, it's a topic that 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: we know so well and has touched us so personally, 86 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: and I felt awful that we hadn't done anything, you know, 87 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: outwardly about this. We of course had done some things 88 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes, but I think part of 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: it too was, you know, the stigma that we talked about, 90 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, our story about you know, my dad's substance 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: use disorder has been very public and I always I 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: like to say, our story was written about us, and 93 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: for the first time, we're telling our own story. Um, 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: and it's just a different it's just a different viewpoint, 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, because no one can know your story about 96 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: you and and so it's been almost healing for us 97 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: to kind of go through this process as well. I 98 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: like to say, like at and my great my depression, anxiety, 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: me surviving it, and me finding through it. That's what 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: made me who I am. For a long time, I 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: felt cursed, what made me who I am? What you 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: growing up like you just said just kind of struck 103 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: a nerve with me. You read your story instead of 104 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: you know so much I don't know, you lived your story. 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: What about you growing up with your dad who had 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: substance abuse issues? What about this do you look at 107 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, this really molded me to who I 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: am and what was the hardest thing for you to 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: get through? Yeah? So, I mean I think, like I said, 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: that's a big one. And obviously it was written about 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: um and thankfully as in recovery and doing really well. 112 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: But I sent suns. As long as I can remember, 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: I've struggled with anxiety, and of course I'm sure some 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: of that was attributed to that, but there are a 115 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: lot of things that attributed to it. And I think 116 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: as a kid, I didn't even know, you know, what 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: was going on or why I felt this way, And 118 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: there was no thing that I remember happening to me 119 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: or you know, anything that all of a sudden I 120 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: was just anxious one day. I just kind of was 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: like that. You know, I'm a very empathetic person from 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: a young age, and I think I feel really deeply 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: and I easily feel for others, and but from a 124 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: really young age, I've I've struggled with anxiety myself, and 125 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: as I say, I still do you know, it's all 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: it goes away, um, and some days really hard still. 127 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: You know. I talked a lot about how becoming a 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: mom was really challenging for me with someone with anxiety 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: and control issues, that having to let I mean, with kids, 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: you have no control, so you have to kind of 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: let go of that. But I was thinking about our talk, 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: and you know, parts of of my life where I've 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: struggled more or struggled less, and I it's ironically, I 134 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: always thought when I was pregnant, I would be the 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: most anxious because I'm caring for somebody else and I 136 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: but ironically, it was the least anxious I've been my 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: whole life. And I don't know if it was because 138 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: it took away. I had no control, like there was 139 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: no option, Like whatever it was gonna happen was gonna happen, 140 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: and I could do what I could to take care 141 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: of it inside me. But it was an interesting experience 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: for me. It was probably the least you were being 143 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: of service. Is something greater than you? Yeah, And I 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: do feel that, like in this initiative a lot um 145 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: where I feel, you know, I think anyone who struggles 146 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: with mental health really does feel the power and sharing 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: your story with somebody else and enabling it to affect 148 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: someone else's life in a positive way really gives your 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: story and your struggle and your trauma a purpose in 150 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: this life. UM and I really feel that and everything 151 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: that we do with this initiative. And but if we 152 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: go back to you know why we did it and 153 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of how it came about. We after reading the 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: statistics in Indiana, I'm realizing how bad it was. Our 155 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: plan was to do a spring fundraiser event to really 156 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: kick it off, but as we all know, COVID hit 157 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: and that didn't happen. So we decided to use them 158 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: Cosmic Cleats campaign that players used to share the cause 159 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: it's close to their heart as a way for us 160 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: to kind of kick this off. UM and my dad 161 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: gave three million dollars one million to one hospital, another 162 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and a recovery UM center to kind of kick off 163 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: our giving. And then it was really just an awareness piece. 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: And my dad got so passionate about talking about it 165 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: for our content piece for my Cosmic Leads that he 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: was like, this needs to be bigger than just us. 167 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: This needs to be a national campaign. People need to 168 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: be talking about this. And so that's how our p 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: s as were made and landed on you know, he 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: wanted it everywhere every anyone was looking, so Fox News, CNN, 171 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, big sporting events. It was an inauguration, it 172 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: was all over. And we've run I guess there's probably 173 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: five p s a s now over the last three years, 174 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: and we we had one running this September and we'll 175 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: probably do some more during the season. But it's so 176 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: hard to keep your foot on the pedal, you know, 177 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: and to keep the momentum going and to really not 178 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: let this discussion stop. And we've been able to do that, 179 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: and we don't plan the top anytime soon, you know what. 180 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I love what you guys are doing. Also, I go 181 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I have a whole chapter on the book about it. 182 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: But be proud of your scores. I'm proud of my scores. 183 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't have, and that for you guys are doing right. 184 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Your dad's doing it, you're all doing it. It's not like, hey, 185 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: we're just gonna go throw a bunch of money like 186 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: you're doing this because you've been through certain things. You're 187 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: using your scores to help others. Yeah, and I think 188 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: that that's part of maybe why this is hidden such 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: a nerve and a positive way is because it is 190 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: coming from a place that such genuine understanding and genuine, 191 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: genuine experience because I think, you know, we talked about 192 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: that a lot too with COVID. Is one of the 193 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: silver linings in a way is that for the first 194 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: time in you know, maybe ever, some people were experiencing 195 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: mental health struggles and for them, I think anything in life, 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: people fear the unknown. It's only natural, you know, for 197 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: us to fear what we don't understand and we don't know. 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, people in jail get threatened with social isolation, right, 199 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: they're horrified of it. So you're right to your point, 200 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: it's exactly, but we're all going through something now, yes, 201 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: And so I think it was for the first time 202 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: people were able to connect with this topic and actually 203 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: have a little bit of understand ending maybe whether they 204 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't understand it before. And so as much as I 205 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: hate that more people have to struggle, I think it's 206 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: enabled this conversation to come out of the dark and 207 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: into the light. What's been and you don't use the 208 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: player's name, but what's been the coolest thing? As far 209 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: as a player? Maybe because you guys have been so 210 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: open and vocal about it, who's coming and ask for 211 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: help or said something that has affected them. Well it's 212 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: not a specific player, but it's to see them connect 213 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: with fans and and parts of them that maybe they 214 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't think was that big of a deal to say like, yeah, 215 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I struggled too, but to see the reaction that they 216 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: get from fans or you know, I can use Shakill 217 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: Leonard as a big example. He's obviously very vocal about 218 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: his struggles, but he continues to be and when he 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: meets people on the street, you know, he's having people 220 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: come up to him or at events saying there was 221 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: I think it was a police officer actually was sharing 222 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: with him. Another day at an event. I was about 223 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: to end it. I couldn't take it anymore. Just life 224 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: was too heavy and I it was like one of 225 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: those nights you know where it was is it? And 226 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: he saw him his p s A and he saw 227 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: him talking about it and to him that pulled him out. 228 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: And so I think for our players to be able 229 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: to see their effect on people in that way, you know, 230 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: I think there are players feel that a lot in 231 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: terms of you know, being a hero to kids and 232 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to other people. But to really truly have someone come 233 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: up to you and tell you that they were going 234 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: to end in their life. But you telling your story 235 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and sharing how you feel that way or you felt 236 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: that way at some point and you pulled yourself out 237 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: made them feel like they could do it. You know. 238 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: That's there's no words for that, you know. I think 239 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: they're speechless and feel so glad that they could do 240 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: that for somebody. I think, you know, in certain ways, 241 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: we're in a worth place than we've ever been mental 242 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: health wise because of social media. But in another way, 243 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: we're in a better place. What I mean by that 244 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: is like when you were saying you you were growing 245 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: up with anxiety, you know what it was? I suffer 246 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: from from panic attacks. I was getting my heart checked 247 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: out for twelve years for a heart attack. I have 248 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: no idea what it was. Now, because we have people 249 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: like you and people like myself, and people like Shack 250 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: and people like Garris and your dad and all of 251 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: us talking about it, people don't have to wonder anymore, 252 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: what is this? What is this anxiety? What am I 253 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: going through right here? Like? Okay, this is anxiety, Oh 254 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: this is depression. Oh this is a great So I 255 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: think in that way, we have to lean into it 256 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: even more. Yeah, and I think for us to, like, so, 257 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: we have a video series that we started, you know, 258 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: we have anyone from Snoop Dogg to our players Zarablow 259 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: sharing you know, what this topic means to them. Maybe 260 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: some are more you know, in depth than others. But 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: the reason we keep doing those and introducing new people 262 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily they're talking about something different, but there's 263 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: stories different and it'll connect with someone differently. And I 264 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: think that anyone like you and I have struggled. I 265 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: can think of someone I've seen talking about it and 266 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: something clicks when they say something that you literally thought 267 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: in your head and you're like, oh my god. It 268 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: almost feels like did someone tell them that? I at 269 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: that because that's literally, by like word forward, how I felt. 270 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: And so I think that's why we continue to do those, 271 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: because we know that that's happening, you know, Like we 272 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: know people are going and watching these videos and feeling 273 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: that and not feeling alone and and realizing that there's 274 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: so many different ways that you can connect with someone. 275 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, with you, it's so funny 276 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: because I think of growing up, you know, knowing who 277 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: you are in terms of in the media and all 278 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: of that, and then connecting with you and getting to 279 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: talk to you personally and and sharing with each other 280 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: about how we have felt, and like you said, it's 281 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: so fun to meet all these new people that connect 282 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: on this level. Yeah. So it's been for me like 283 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: really healing meeting all these people and connecting with people 284 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: that really share this passion and life purpose to change 285 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: the world in this way in terms of mental health awareness. 286 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: It when I went out the Cults campus year, You're 287 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: the first person I went and saw that we sit 288 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: there in the sidelines. Well, I'm supposed to be watching 289 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: football doing my job, which set up is so excited 290 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: to talk about mental health with somebody else who gets it. 291 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: That's the thing too, And I think part of Ambition 292 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: together is to show people were in the majority, were 293 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: not the minority. And that's why too many people hide 294 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: as they think that, oh, we're just the minority. I 295 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: don't think we're the minority. Whether it's because you just 296 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: went through COVID, we went through isolation, or social media 297 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: makes you think your life stakes or you're seeing so 298 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: much hate, or you just were born with it, or 299 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: went through childhood trauma or something. I believe we're in 300 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: the majority, really do, when I think, I totally agree. 301 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: And I also think a lot of people we talked 302 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: about this a lot too, like the spectrum of mental health, 303 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: but you don't have to be having a mental health 304 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: crisis to be experiencing a need for help. In fact, 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you work on your body, you don't, 306 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, you work on your physical health. You should 307 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: continue to work on your mental health even when you're 308 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: in a good spot. Um. And I think that that's 309 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: something that's not talked about enough. I think a lot 310 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: of people to hear mental health and they immediately go 311 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: to the extreme disorders of you know, severe depression or 312 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: bipolar or whatever, and those are you know, real and 313 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: extremely difficult. Like I think people feel guilty, like, you know, 314 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm like, I'm not as bad 315 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: as them. So I just want to figure this out myself. 316 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: And I don't need to bother anybody with this, Like 317 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: it's not like this huge thing. I don't know, Yeah, 318 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: it's like someone you know, I'm bothering somebody because you know, 319 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of times they can't name it. You know, 320 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of times, until you go to therapy 321 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: you realize like what's actually causing Yeah, and that's so 322 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: easy to do. I mean I have Yeah. I mean 323 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: I did that all the time, you know. I still 324 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: do that sometimes where I'm like, oh, God, like I 325 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: have everything I need. I have all the you know. 326 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: And we talked about a lot too, because like mental 327 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: health does not it doesn't matter how much money you have. 328 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: We had everything we needed and more, and it was 329 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: still hard. And so I can't imagine having to figure out, 330 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, a bus route to get to a therapy appointment, 331 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: let alone. You know, there's so many barriers that come 332 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: into play when some one really needs help. And so 333 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: that's a big part of what we're trying to do 334 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: to in terms of equital access to resources and really 335 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, putting the resources in the places that are 336 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: that are needed where they're almost like deserts of areas 337 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: where I think that's another thing. We really try to 338 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: highlight the good work that is being done, because there 339 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: is good work being done, it's just they need more 340 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: funding and they need more you know, behavioral health workforce 341 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: and the you know, the list goes on and on 342 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: so we're really just trying to highlight the areas that 343 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: that need help and that are really doing amazing work. 344 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: They just need more people to pay attention, talk more 345 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: about your mission, help you fill people in about what 346 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: you guys have done. And also you have a big 347 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: event coming up, talk about that a little bit. Yes, 348 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: So our first fundraising event was still during COVID times, 349 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: so it was a digital fundraising event, um, and that 350 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: raised a little bit close to like two point five million, 351 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: and then my dad matched that, so it became a 352 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: little bit over four point five million. Then in the 353 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: little bit don't say a little bit, that's a little bit. 354 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: And then um, this past one that we just had 355 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: in September, um, we raised it a little bit over 356 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand, and then my dad also added a 357 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: million to that as well to continue our work and that. So, 358 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: but overall, in terms of you know, fundraising, awareness pieces, 359 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: other donations of our family, we've committed close to eighteen 360 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: million dollars over the last three years to this cause 361 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: and various different areas we really have tried. I think 362 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: that's been part of the most difficult part of this 363 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: is an also exciting part because I really enjoy learning 364 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: about you know, trying to I'm not I always say 365 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm by no means an expert at all. That I 366 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: definitely have found many experts themselves who we have been 367 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: able to lean on and really use as a resource 368 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: to talk to about, you know, like I want to 369 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: make an impact today, Like where do I where do 370 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: our funds need to go? And it's not that any 371 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: dollar that we gave give to any organization who needs it, 372 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: and mental health is wasting it. But I really want, 373 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: we really want to get down to the bottom level 374 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: of this problem. You know, we know that the system 375 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: is broken, but we can fix it. So how do 376 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: we you know, how where do we start so that 377 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: we can impact the change that we want as we 378 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: move through the next five and fifteen years. It can 379 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: be difficult because you know, we take it. I take 380 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: this very seriously. Every dollar it's donated to us, and 381 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: we are people are trusting us to, you know, really 382 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: make good choices about where this funding goes. And I 383 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: feel like we've done a really good job about really 384 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: being strategic. And I think that the biggest compliment is 385 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: talking to some of our experts and them saying that 386 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: it's hard to do that, you know, as an organization, 387 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: and and we really are already starting to see some 388 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: impact where we've donated, so it's really exciting. So we 389 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: will be So I was gonna say one thing that 390 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: we did that was the first ever NFL game that 391 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: was dead a cage to mental health awareness was last season. 392 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: It was in September last season. So this season it's 393 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: going to be our Monday night game against the Steelers 394 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: um on November. So at our last last year's game, 395 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: players wore kids and stigma shirts with different phrases on them, 396 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: encouraging you know, you are not alone. Vulnerability is a strength, 397 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: It's okay to not be Okay, Um, you're enough, And 398 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: so it'll be similar to that where players will be 399 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: wearing shirts promoting the cause. And then of course we're 400 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: always fundraising, but a lot of this is really more 401 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: awareness piece and really stamping our horse shoes name on 402 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: this and trying to shine a light because I think 403 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: what we've noticed and what a lot of our mental 404 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: health experts have said is to have an NFL team 405 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: putting their logo on these things or getting articles written 406 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: about this is priceless to them because they just can't 407 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: get people to listen, and so we're really trying to 408 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: use our platform um as much as we can to 409 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: help this cause. Really want our listeners to understand that 410 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: if you have an entire football team wearing the kicking 411 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: the stigma sture and having all these phrases, this is 412 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: an entire team, there's nothing to be afraid to talk 413 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: up about. Like you got the baddest dude in the 414 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: planet wearing this across their chest or on their back, 415 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: which means they accept it, right, they're accepting. Hey, they're 416 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: all going through something, we're all struggling. So I just 417 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: want people to understand the power of that so they 418 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: don't feel so afraid to speak up. This is an 419 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: entire team saying we got your backs. Yeah, we hope. 420 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: We hope to inspire you know, other teams like that 421 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: was part of our mission in the beginning as well, 422 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: and it still is as that we hope to kind 423 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: of act as the best practices for NFL teams or 424 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: even just other sports team or even day organizations that 425 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: can have an impact like ours with their logo or 426 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: their platform and kind of look at what we're doing 427 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: in this space and a good time when you have 428 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: people call you acting. You know, who have you donated to? 429 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: How did you start? You know, where do I begin? 430 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, how how do I help my organization or 431 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: my community or whatever it might be. And it's an 432 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: honor you know that they're calling us and and that 433 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: we can help them in that way. And so that's 434 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: also a good sign. It shows a shift I think too. 435 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: And if you go to the cults website k dot 436 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: com slash yes UM and you can find all information there. 437 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: You can also when our grant cycle is open again 438 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: next summer, that's where you can apply for grants through 439 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: our our Kicking Stigma Funds. So all of our funds 440 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: raised go into our Kicking the Stigma grant UM. We've 441 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: distributed it about four point one million dollars just through 442 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: the grant program. To date, UM we've had about thirty 443 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: eight recipients and most of them are Indiana local base, 444 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: but we do have a few national ones. UM like 445 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Project Healthy Minds is a really interesting one that I 446 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: know I've talked to you about that is basically creating 447 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: a digital marketplace for mental health services. So that affects 448 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, every state. UM. But they're doing amazing work. 449 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: But there's so many people, and you can find all 450 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: of our recipients and all of that information on our website. 451 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I got two more questions. 452 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: Number one, with your own experience with mental health and 453 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: what you've learned. Now, what's one of the more valuable 454 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: things that you've learned that you could teach our listeners, 455 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: some some sort of wisdom you can impart or something 456 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: that you may do it helps you get through your 457 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: great well. For me, I have you know, I used 458 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: to I said it already, but exercise has genuinely become 459 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: medicine for me. I've never actually taken regular anxiety meds, 460 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: but I you know, I have, you know, for peanic, 461 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: not like regularly. Um I found a lot of three 462 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: over here, and I'll keep trying until I find one 463 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: that works. I saw well, and like I said, I 464 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: have some for like panic attacks and things like that. 465 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: Um So I do have that, but I have found 466 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot of success in therapy and how to manage 467 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: my anxiety that way, So obviously I recommend that. But 468 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: I have found over honestly towards more. This is a 469 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: newer one for me because I always I liked working out, 470 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: but it was always more to like stay in shape, 471 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: and um, now it's genuinely become to manage my anxiety 472 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: every day. I didn't use to do it every day. 473 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: And and that does not mean like an hour of 474 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: like you know, grinding it out. It's like it could 475 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: be a mile for ten minutes. Once it hits like afternoon, 476 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: like tuwish, I started getting like a raised heart rate 477 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: and if I don't do it, And I started to 478 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: really try to pay attention to myself, like and I 479 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: noticed it was on the days I wasn't working out 480 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: or even doing something physical. And so now I genuinely 481 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: do it religiously because it helps me that much. Now, 482 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: the last question after you and I should have told 483 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: you this before because I usually do, and I just forgot. 484 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: That's the A D D part. Give me your unbreakable moment. 485 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Something that should have broken you, could have broken you, 486 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: but you came through the other shot. Yeah, well, i'd say, 487 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: like I remember my peak anxiety. I mean I have 488 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: a feel because as you get older, when it starts 489 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: so young, I feel like I had many peaks and valleys. 490 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: But when I was in fifth grade, that was probably 491 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: my most difficult year in the school. Again, I couldn't 492 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: really name exactly, you know, I was in therapy at 493 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: that point, but I would genuinely go to school every 494 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: day and my mom would have to leave me crying 495 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: at the top of the stairs because in the school 496 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: even ended up giving us a private room to try 497 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: to collect myself, and she might leave me there to 498 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: try to pluck myself before I could go to the 499 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: class like every single day, and I honestly I don't 500 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: know why. But after I got through that year, I 501 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: was started to get a little bit better. And that 502 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: could be a variety of things, you know, therapy, helping 503 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But my mom, I really was 504 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: talking about this other day. I really credit my mom. 505 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: I never felt alone or like God, just stop and 506 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: get over you know, like just this isn't you know, 507 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: this is embarrassing, or like, you know, hundreds so many 508 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: days of school and I'm still can't get over it 509 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: and can't name as to why. And she just never 510 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: wavered and making me feel that it was okay and 511 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna be okay, because that was my biggest 512 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: fear and it makes me tear up thinking about it 513 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: every time I talked about it, because I always tell her. 514 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I used to ask her over and over and over, 515 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: am I gonna be okay? Because it's like it didn't 516 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: ever feel that way, and I didn't know why, and 517 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: I was like, how am I going to grow up 518 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: and be like you and do normal things if I 519 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: can't even so I would feel like that, and she 520 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: just never wavered and that just trust me, like I 521 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: will always be here and you will have the support 522 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: you need and we will figure this out. And I 523 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it was just the constant repetition or 524 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: they're probably combined of lots of things. You know, I 525 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: got through that year, and I feel like it was 526 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: a big turning point for me. I still struggled, and 527 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I you know, it struggled even after college, you know, 528 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: like repicked up therapy more intense after college and all that. 529 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: But that for me is probably my biggest memory of 530 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: feeling like I'm not gonna be okay and her just 531 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: being able to have someone like that with such a 532 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: strong confidence that I would be okay was why I 533 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: feel like I got through it. Well, I tell you what, 534 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: I hope you could see it also and say, man, 535 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: that's something that could have broken me and didn't, and 536 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: you got through the other side of that tunnel, So 537 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: you could use that in every step of the rest 538 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: of your life. Yeah, I know that what doesn't break 539 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: us makes us stronger. Hence why I'm calling some breakable 540 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: things that could have broken me, it didn't and I 541 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: came through the other side of the tunnel. Nobody could 542 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: take that from you. Yeah, well, I think you know, 543 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: there's I could probably come up with like ten unbreakable 544 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: moments from like my experiences, my dad's you know how 545 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: mine related to his and all that. But I think 546 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: in the whatever it is, you always have. I mean, 547 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: I leaned on my family and my sisters so much 548 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: and all of those dark, hard moments, and honestly, laughter 549 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: really helped a lot. Like we're a pretty comedic family. 550 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: We really like to laugh. We you know, movies and 551 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: music are basically you know, quoting movie lines and all 552 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: that stuff are a huge part of our family. And 553 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: so laughing at yourself and laughing at moments that are 554 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: sad sometimes actually got us through a lot of things, 555 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: like just being like, I don't don't even believe us 556 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: if if we told them the story like it seems steak, 557 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: and so things like that, Like I, you know, I'm 558 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: so thankful for my family because definitely that they were 559 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: my crutch a lot. So it's a chapter in my 560 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: book of how to get through the gray in order 561 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: for me. So, like I always say, the great Hites laughter. 562 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: So when I'm having a panic or anxiety tech on TV, 563 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I push a joke out. I say, if you ever 564 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: see me push a pad joke out, I'm just I'm struggle. 565 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: But I never really have bad jokes. But but that's 566 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: my only defense while I'm on national TV is to 567 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: have some sort of after syah, I love that you 568 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: said that. I really appreciate you. Tell everybody again one 569 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: more time where they could donate, where they could get UM. 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And I know how many people I've 582 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: read your book and that you've had people say the 583 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: same thing that I was talking about earlier is that 584 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: they were alone, they were having one of those nights 585 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: and then they either gifted your book or came across 586 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: your book and it's what made them choose to not 587 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: And so thank you for all your doing. And it's 588 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: it's on my desk, it's right look at that. How 589 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: about that it's always near me in case I need 590 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: it too. So thank you for all you do well, 591 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: thank you for being my teammate, and thank you for 592 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: walking this walk together. Thank you. I'm so happy to 593 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: be here today