1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,159 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson, 4 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: and uh well, happy fiftieth anniversary of the Immaculate Reception 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: to everybody out there listening to the Actually time of 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: the Immaculate Reception was three PM, so just a little 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: bit ago. Uh. One of the greatest moments, if not 8 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: the greatest moment in NFL history, happened fifty years ago today. 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: And of course, so we also lost Franco Harris the uh, um, 10 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: I guess, the architect of the what would you call 11 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: him the I guess the primary jump started something like that, 12 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: and the ignission something like that, something explosive to get 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: this thing rolling. Yeah, that's kind of how I described 14 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: it today in my five for Friday. Um that he 15 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: ignited the what would become Steelers Nation. Are Steelers the seventies, 16 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the the whole thing actually really the everything that's carried 17 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: through fifty years to today started it day right because 18 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: before that they never wanted they'd never want a playoff 19 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: game before. Yeah, it's kind of like BC and you know, 20 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: a d you know, I mean in terms of the 21 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: maculate reception. I mean, we don't already talk about those 22 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: years before it happened. I mean they're a little dim. 23 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: But since then it's been pretty darn good, pretty darn good. 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: And the Steelers will try to add to that on 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Saturday when they host the Las Vegas Raiders. Uh, the 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: team that the the immaculate reception came against. And I, Matt, 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I have the final injury report here for the Steels. 28 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: We can't talk some football today. Uh so, Uh, the 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Steelers have three guys with a designation or sort of 30 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a designation because Terrell Edmonds did not practice all week long. 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: His status is unspecified. I don't even know what that means. 32 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Yeah, I've never heard that one. Um, 33 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: you know that's a loophole there. Yeah. Deante Johnson and 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Derek Watt I'm sorry, Miles Jack both questionable for this game, 35 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: although Jack was a full participant on Thursday. Deante Johnson 36 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: did not practice on Thursday, but he did get through 37 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: a workout today, the walk through today, so it looks 38 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: good for him to go out and participate. I haven't 39 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: heard anything yet about Edmonds. I was actually over at 40 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: the facility today and it was on triple lockdown today. So, um, 41 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: for the Raiders, this is where it gets. This gets 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: a little interesting. So and the Steeler stufts a little 43 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: interesting too. Yeah. Cornerback Rocky of Sin is out. He 44 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: won't play. He's gonna be injury. They have six guys 45 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: who are questionable, including both starting guards Alex Barrs and 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Dylan Parham. Both were limited participants in practice on Thursday. Uh, 47 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: if these come down to game time decisions for these guys, 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I know it's your job, and 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: you know for for both of these guys's knee injuries, 50 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: and I can just tell you haven't you know, I've 51 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: got bad knees from from years of beating them up 52 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: on playing different sports. Um, they don't loosen up real 53 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: well in the cold. Was that a feeling you're going 54 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: to bring the weather up here? Yeah, it's kind of 55 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: like the tin man. I bet in these kind of 56 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: this kind of weather a little bit. I mean you 57 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: need to he can't, he can't, you know, pour a 58 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: little oil on that, uh, to loosen it up. So 59 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: they're both questionable. Jackson Barton and offensive tackle is questionable. 60 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: He was limited on on Thursday. Andrew Billings, one of 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: their defensive tackles with a fibula issue, questionable. He was 62 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: limited all week long. Uh Darian Butler, a linebacker with 63 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: a quad was limited all week long. And then Zamir 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: White uh with the running back their backup running back 65 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: with an ankle is also questionable for this game. The 66 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: two guards and in buildings are big. They are, And 67 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: I bet some listeners are like, why is that big? 68 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: I've never heard of any of these guys. Jermane Illuminois. 69 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: They're starting right tackle. Oh. Absolutely, three offensive linemen are 70 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: questionable for this game. Yeah, and I think it is 71 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: a big deal. Like I've been saying this all week 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: that this is really a stars and scrubs roster. You know, 73 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: they got five or six guys that are about as 74 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: good at what they do as there is in the 75 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: league Crosby Jacobs, you know, I mean Wall or Adams, etcetera. 76 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: But then there's no real middle class or well known 77 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: players because Gruden and Mayock drafted so poorly. So these 78 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: names we mentioned that might not be a big deal 79 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: to other teams or who this team counts on. I 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: mean Dylan Parr almost like he's a good prospect. People 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: might have heard of him because he's the third round pick, 82 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: but no one's heard of Alex Bars or Illuminoire. But 83 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: that's the best they've got and they're making do with it, 84 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: and they're getting a lot out of these guys. So 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: that is a big deal to me. Yeah. I mean, 86 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: even if one of those guys misses because because of 87 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: the lack of depth that they have on their offensive line, 88 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: it's a huge deal. Same thing with Billings better it is. 89 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I bet a lot of everyone take two 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: seconds and tell me who the defensive tackles are on 91 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: the Raiders. I'm sure you don't know, you know, I 92 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: mean it's the same situation. I mean, it's below Nichols 93 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: and Kylie Peco. And they picked up Jerry Tillery who 94 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: washed out with the Chargers and he's actually helped them 95 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: a little. The Buildings might be their most well known guy, 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: you know. I mean their first round pick could certainly 97 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: be a d tackle, right right. I know we do 98 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: this just because this isn't a team that you know, 99 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: you see a lot and we we used to do 100 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: this more we haven't done of of late, but let's 101 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: take a look at their roster and compare it to 102 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: the Steeler's roster. So wide receiver, these are the names, 103 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, Davante Adams, Maccollins, Hunter, Renfroe, and then they 104 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: have a Keelan Cole. Those are there four guys that 105 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: they had? They only have four active wide receivers. Yeah, 106 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: I saw that earlier in the week too. That's a 107 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: little strange. Um, I think Adams might be number one 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: in the league. If not, he's five guaranteed, I mean, superstar. 109 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: I saw this the other day. Dale just now we're 110 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: mentioned him. I think he's had four or five. I 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: think it's four games with forty or less yards as 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: a Raider. He had one of those in his Green 113 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Bay career, right, you know, Like I mean, so everyone's 114 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: been so focused on him. You can take away a 115 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: great receiver if that's all they have. Um, but he's 116 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a great receiver. He's a great receiver. And when he 117 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: blows up, he blows up. Yeah. His if you look 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: at his season this year, they I mean, it's like 119 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: a roller coaster to a certain degree. Um, Hollins is 120 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: a guy that kind of came out of nowhere this year. Uh, 121 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: he's bounced rund the league for five or six years now, 122 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and because they don't have anybody else, and Renfro was 123 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: hurt and and Waller was hurt, he's been the de 124 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: facto number two. Yeah, and he's kind of sees the 125 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: opportunity because he's stuck around early in his career because 126 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: he's a big, tough receiver that was a really good 127 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: special teamer, you know, I mean, the tough guy blocks 128 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: and that's the key is he blocks. Is so even 129 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: early on, I mean, Renfro hasn't done a ton. I'm 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: sure he'll do more and more. But Hollins played of 131 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: the snaps last week even with Renfro and Waller back, 132 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: because he blocks in the run game. It's kind of 133 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: the Gunner boys. I means, they're they're almost identical in 134 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: terms of size and punt team and you know they'll 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: they'll make tackles and coaches love those guys, you know, 136 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs rightly loves that guy. Yeah, And and Renfro's 137 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: kind of a Gunnerolschewsky, They're they're like the same dude. 138 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: Re Renfro is obviously more accomplished, but he is he 139 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: was really good last year. He hasn't been this year. 140 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I predict that he would have a ton of Welker 141 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: Edelman like targets and that hasn't come to fruition with 142 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: McDaniels and Renfro yet. Yeah. Yeah, looking at their offensive line, Uh, 143 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: you probably still give the with with Adams, and there 144 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: you give the nod to the to the Raiders receives. Huh. 145 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean I like what the Steelers have depth wise 146 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: overall better, but I mean Renfro is still good even 147 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: though he hasn't done us this year in Adams is 148 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Adams is the trump card, and I think Hollins would 149 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: play a lot if you were a Steeler. Yeah. Yeah. 150 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: On the offensive line, you got the Uh, you got 151 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: Colton Miller at left tackle, who's a good player, former 152 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: first round picks. Uh. Then you got it guard palm 153 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: and bars, the center is Andre James, and then a 154 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: luminour at right tackle. Steeler the Steeler's offensive line. I 155 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: would take this one there. I think you're head and 156 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: shoulders above this group. I think it's not even close. 157 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean, back to bad drafting, they were counting on 158 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: Leatherwood to be the right tackle or at least a 159 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: guard total wash out. I mean total wash out. Um, 160 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I think Miller is the only guy I would really want. 161 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not fair. I would love to have 162 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Dylan Parham on this team. I'm not sure exactly where 163 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: it'd fit in right the second guards center, Like if 164 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: the Steeler's third round pick, and he was a third 165 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: round pick is still in param next year, he'll play 166 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: somewhere you know, or he'll be great depth. But Miller 167 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: would be the guy that would plug in on this line. 168 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Is the almost franchise left tackle. But you can keep 169 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: the other dudes, Yeah, the other ones are I mean 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: even a luminore who's kicked around the league for a 171 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: little while, okay, would would still be a backup. Oh yeah, yeah, 172 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean I think Miller is 173 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: the only starter of the group that if you're a 174 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: Steeler a tight end, you got Darren Waller, Foster Moreau, 175 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: in Jesper Horsted. I don't ar anything about Jessper, but 176 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: I do like Moreau though. I mean, he's a two 177 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: way tight end, fourth round pick that's played a lot 178 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: this year. With Waller being out, I don't honestly know 179 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: how to compare Waller verse Fryar move. You know, you 180 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: know when you started the season, you'd be like, boy, 181 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Friar Moves turn into Waller. Waller 182 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: has had a tremendous career, but he was old tremendous 183 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: like two years. Yeah, yeah, the last couple of years 184 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: because he was a slow starter. Obviously, he came to 185 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: league as a wide receiver and then he had very 186 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: public alcohol issues that he's overcome. Good for him, um, 187 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: but he's thirty already. I was just pulled pulling him up. 188 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: It's already thirty and he's had like two or three 189 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: good years. Now he's coming back. I'll give the Raiders 190 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: the edge of tight end because I'll take in the 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: receiver group. He's not He's not gonna anybody. Yeah, I 192 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: mean even last year or last week. You know, he 193 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: only played fifty or six of the snaps, but of 194 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: those snaps, like eighty of them are in the slot. Yeah, 195 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's what he is. He's he's their fifty, 196 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: he's their fifth receivers and since only a four on 197 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: the uh, so he's realistically he's the number two, right, 198 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you know. I mean he's much different than Adams, who 199 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: does everything, and he's much different than renfro and the 200 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: three of them aren't at all similar. That's how it's designed. 201 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: Because they use a fullback so much or Moreau is 202 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: the blocking tight end, they still always have six good 203 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: blockers on the field, if not seven. At running back, 204 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: you got Josh Jacobs and I don't even know if 205 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: we should consider anybody, Jacob john somebody else, nobody does anything. 206 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing about this about this roster is 207 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: that Derek Carr is their second leading rusher. And Derek 208 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Carr doesn't run. He's got twenty one krry's all season, 209 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: and he's their second leading rusher in in in carries, 210 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: in yardage. Yeah. I mean the fullback has to be 211 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: mentioned here because he plays a lot, Jacob Johnson, and 212 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: he is I think he's a linebacker turn fullback. I'm 213 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: pretty sure. And it shows. I mean, he doesn't ever 214 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: carry the ball. He's a killer. I mean, he's a 215 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: downhill thumper and he but he plays more than a 216 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: buller or Za mere White or Brandon Bold as a 217 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: special team right, yeah, yeah, exactly all these um So 218 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: the plan was for them, We're gonna draft a mere 219 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: White in the fourth round. We're not gonna, you know, 220 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: pick up Josh jacobs uh fifth year, and the two 221 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: of those will split carries in a New England like fashion. 222 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: We'll let Josh move on his way. But to your point, 223 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: it's only Jacobs. I mean, he leads the league in 224 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: rushing though, so I think you have to give the 225 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Raiders a nod here. He's really good. I'm looking at 226 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: this more though, Matt, from what's happening right now out mhm, 227 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: and right now I'll take the Naji Harris j Len 228 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: Warren duo over Josh Jacobs. There's a point for the 229 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: case for that, because the Steelers are The Steelers are 230 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: running the ball more effectively than the Raiders have all season, 231 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: despite Jacobs, because nobody else adds anything to their rushing totals. 232 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: Of course, they're not a strong running team per se. 233 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: They don't have a strong runner. They have a strong run, right, 234 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it. They have one, 235 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: but they get no ancillary yards whatsoever in a run game. 236 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: So I saw this this morning. It wasn't in my 237 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: stat pack, but since week ten, Jacobs is averaging twenty 238 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: five and a half carries and four and a half 239 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: targets per game, and he's gone over total a hundred 240 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: total yards and every one of those but it's all him, 241 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's a that's like thirty touches 242 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: of game since week ten. It's a huge workloading today's NFL. 243 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: It absolutely is, and he's banged up. Put this point, um, 244 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at their run game, overall, 245 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: they're averaging a hundred twenty six point two yards per game. 246 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: The Steelers are one sixteen point one. But as we know, 247 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: over the last six seven weeks, the Steelers are averaging 248 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: a hundred forty five rushing yards per game. Yeah, I 249 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: mean I think that's a it's a case for all teams, 250 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: but evaluating season long stats for the Steelers is a 251 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a misnomer, especially offense. Yeah. Now, I 252 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: think if if we're looking, you know, player by player, yeah, 253 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: you probably you know, Jacobs is number one, But the 254 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Steelers two running backs for two and three, and I 255 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's no doubt, you know, I think it's 256 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty close one. I mean I would trade I 257 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: would trade Nausey for Jacobs. Okay, I don't know if 258 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I would based on the workload that he's gotten this year, 259 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: like they're running. They have no intention whatsoever resigning him. 260 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: I bet they franchise him and do it again and 261 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: then send him on his way as damn is good. 262 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: And I'll bet I'll bet they regret that because they're 263 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: running him into the ground this year. Yeah, I think 264 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: he's a broken hand. And whether or not that's reported 265 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: or not, you yeah, I mean that's gonna be painful 266 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: to more too. I would think kind of. Yeah, it's 267 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: like minus one right now. Looking at their defense. Okay, 268 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: you got the aforementioned Max Crosby at the defensive end 269 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: along with Chandler Jones, and then at the defensive tackle 270 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Billings, Ballal Nichols, You mentioned Jerry Tillery, Uh, Kyle Peco, 271 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Matt Matthew Butler, um clon Ferreld doesn't even play for 272 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing that he even doesn't even come up. I mean, 273 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: he was the fourth overall pick in the draft in 274 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: nineteen Yeah. I can't stress enough how badly Mayok and 275 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Gruden drafted, and they had so many first round picks 276 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: after trading a Maori and Mac and all those guys, 277 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: and he's the worst of all of them, but at 278 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: least he's still on the team. I guess Rugs is 279 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: horst to all of them, or you know, some of 280 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: the guys are on the team. Yeah, this isn't even close. 281 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, but I want to give Max Crosby the 282 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: respect he deserves. If we're drafting edge rushers in the league, 283 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: only he's going in the top five or six picks. 284 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: But it's behind t J you know, I mean, it's 285 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: behind Garrett, it's behind Bosa. Then the list gets pretty short. 286 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's that good. But Chandler Jones to me, 287 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: isn't as good as Highsmith. No, he's not what he was. Um, 288 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: you know he's obviously he's on the wrong side of 289 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: thirty now. Um, I know he made a play last 290 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: week because they threw the ball right to him, ran 291 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: over quarters. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh. The interior is not even close. Yeah, 292 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: it's I mean, the interiors not even close. Bad, bad, bad. Uh. 293 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: Looking at their linebackers, you've got Luke Masterson, Denzel Perriman, 294 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: You've got Darien Butler. Who's about it. Yeah, I see 295 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: four on their roster. Yeah, they've got Curtis Bolton as well. 296 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: But it's not a good not a good group. It's 297 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: really bad. I mean this interior triangle of or square 298 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: but you know, the to the d tackles and linebackers, 299 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: second level linebackers. It's as bad as you'll see in 300 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the league. Like, I don't think Houston would trade with 301 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: an undrafted guy the other Masterson, uh and Butler are 302 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: both undrafted guys. Yeah, I think they're happy with Masterson 303 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: and we found something out of nothing type of dude. 304 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: But it's not like he's a plus player, you know. 305 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: I mean Mark Robinson would probably be starting for them. 306 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's feline to play every snap. 307 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: That's where they're at. I think you used this example 308 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: in the week, and I've been stealing it and using 309 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: it all week. Is is Danzel Perryman is Vince Williams, 310 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, like you love him. He hits like a truck, 311 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: but he's really built for twenty years ago, without a doubt, 312 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And to your point, these guys give 313 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: up a hemorrhage receptions to running backs. Yeah, I mean 314 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: it's it's really bad. Read a cornerback. It's Nate Hobbs. 315 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: I guess Sam Webb, who is an undrafted free agent 316 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: rookie Rocky Sin who's questionable for this game, Meek Robinson, 317 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: and and they get Sydney Jones and Tyler Hall. I 318 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: know they like Hobbs. I know they like Robertson. I 319 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: mean their fourth and fifth round picks that are both 320 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: probably slots in the perfect world. That's the only thing 321 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Robinson can do. He's tiny, He's a five eight type 322 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: of dude. They traded Yonnion Dockways straight up for Rocky 323 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: Sin and he's okay, you know, I mean, it's he's there, bag, 324 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: he's there, big guy that to match up against bigger receivers, 325 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: and he's not probably gonna play. Um, I'm trying to 326 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: think who I guess actually he's out. Yeah, yeah, I 327 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: mean I don't know exactly how if you combine these 328 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: two groups of corners, how the pecking order would go. 329 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: But more Steelers would get Snaps and Raiders. Yeah, I agree, Um, 330 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: these guys aren't great. Uh a safety bussho you get 331 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Trey von Morig at strong safety, there on Harmon at 332 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: free safety. I love mo Rig, but the Steelers obviously 333 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: get the dog here. Yeah. Now, if if doesn't play tomorrow, 334 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: well Mink is still the first pick by a wide margin, 335 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: and then it's mower ring k Z is better than Harmon. Yeah, 336 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: I think would start, which is kind of they They 337 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: signed Harmon because he's a former Patriot exactly. There's a 338 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of Patriots on this Yeah, 339 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: that's what they're that's what they're doing here. So then 340 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: they trust him. He's been around the block, he's an 341 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: older guy. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. Their special teams haven't been 342 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: real good either. The difference between their punt return yardage, 343 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: they're like five point eight or something like. The Steelers 344 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: aren't aren't better than that they've been They've been even worse. Actually, 345 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: but the Raiders allow like eleven points six yards perpunt return. Yeah, 346 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: which is not good in today's NFL. No, I don't 347 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: know enough about their specialists, but I think they're they're 348 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: Putner is considered a good player, Cole. I don't honestly know. Yeah, 349 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, let's see, I don't know. But there their 350 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: coverage units may not must not be very good. They 351 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: just there's not a lot of depth here. No. Oh, 352 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: it goes back to I mean they've drafted so badly. 353 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's really everyone talks about the Rams as 354 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the stars and scrubs roster. They have much more of 355 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: a middle class than this team. I mean, they and 356 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: their stars are better, but I mean they have five 357 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: great players and then they have bad draft, bad draft, 358 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: bad draft. Fill in the blanks. Yeah, it's it's a 359 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: it's an interesting roster. When you look at the roster 360 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: as it's constructed now, it's it's hard for me to 361 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: believe they went into this season thinking they were a 362 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender. I know again, I mean they I'm 363 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: sure they had a real sit down meeting and you know, 364 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: should we trade car and punt this year? And I 365 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: kind of made the funny last night with Pursuda and Vegas. 366 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: They put all their chips in the middle and they lost. 367 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have a good enough hand and 368 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: now they're kind of in trouble again. Would the Packers 369 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: and Raiders both been better off if they don't don't 370 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: make the Davantae Adams trade. I tend to think yes, yeah, 371 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: I would agree. I mean, I mean, you think about 372 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: the money that that Adams is taking up now on 373 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: their salary cap. Uh, you know they traded picks to 374 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: get him, obviously, the lot. Yeah, the Packers could certainly 375 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: use him. Uh, it's just it's just amazing. But a 376 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: lot of talk to car won't be back because they 377 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: can get out from his contract quick and probably get 378 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: a first round pick from a lot of teams, you know. Yeah, 379 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: but then you don't have a quarterback. Yeah, right right, 380 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham as your backup, you know, backup right, And 381 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: they're not picking the top, you know, the top. There's 382 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: picking about where the Steelers are. They're not gonna get 383 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: a good one right away in the draft. 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