1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Jack Wuars. Did you know Jaguars Jaguars? Did you know 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive to m Bryan Sexton, John Osher, Ashland and 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Sutherland Jaguars. D Time starts right now here we go, 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday morning to you. Welcome to Jack's Trive Time 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: on tune in radio and Twitter, Periscope, the whole nine yards. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to April. Everyone, right, sunny day here. I was 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: in Kansas City over the weekend, John Ozier, and it 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: was snowing on easter. I can't tell you how nice 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: it is to be back in Florida. You can go 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: ahead and tell him it's nice to be back in Bida. 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: That's good, and it's uh, yeah, it's nice to see you. 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: How are you great? Yeah, oh, it's good. You know 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm a happy person. You're that kind of guy where 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: you say he's great. Just ask him, that's right, right, 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: if you want to know how you meant? How am 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: I in terms of just my ability to do things? 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely great? How is that? I like it? I like 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: it when you're energetically. I'm ready to goad. Morning is it? 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Because it's April? Because there's a lot happening this month. 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: There's a state of the franchise and the uniform unveiling, 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: and not long down the road, the draft is three 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: weeks from Thursday. Seriously, it's April that's got you all 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: hyped up well, and it has turned into a month 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: that has uh some energy. I don't know that that's 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: why I'm great, but it certainly is a reason to 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: be excited about the jack. It's better than thinking about 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: tax Day, which is coming up in two weeks as well. 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's introduce you to the third member of 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: our team. Hello, Ashlyn Sullivan. Are you great this morning also? 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Or are we just talking about good for you when 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: I am great? Yes, I'm excited for April. Well, then 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: why don't you start with the big things? All right? 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Big thing? Number one draft for defense, with the money 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: that was spent during free to see with additions like 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Normald. Now it's looking like defense might be the 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: big picture here looking at next season when you're going 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: to try to want to pay Ramsey and Hawkway, that's 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: looking like death might be really key here this season. 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, John as I looked at it, and I 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: get it when when people are looking at this roster 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: they think, wow, the defense is set. I gotta get 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the offense taken care of. And that may be the case. 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you may see the first round pickie an 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, a wide receiver, whatever, but you know, the 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: salary cap says they have to address their defense in 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: this draft too. Because rough numbers now, the Jaguars for 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen are well over the salary cap, 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: something we haven't seen around here in recent years. And 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: so I just I just wrote down some names and numbers. 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Calais Campbell, Marcel Darius, Malik Jackson, A J. Boy a 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: Um and the two safeties Berry Church and Sean Gibson 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: are fifty seven million dollars against the cap next year. 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Plus Dante Fowler Jr. Is a guy whether you keep 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: him or not, you may not be able to account for. 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: You have to. You have to start accounting for that. 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: So when you look, I know everyone thinks right here 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: right now, and we're a year to year league. I'm 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: not discounting that, but when you see the amount, not 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: all six of those guys can be here in twenty 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: nine teen on those numbers, So that means value. And 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: twenty nine may fit for a guard, it may fit 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: for a tackle or a tight end or a wide receiver, 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: but it may also fit for a defensive player, and 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: the Jaguars may need to start thinking about nineteen as 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: opposed to because of the way that the CAPAF structure. Well, 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept, and I think it's one we're 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna wrestle with all month because obviously they're not going 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: to tell us the draft strategy, and the reality is 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: they may not know it. I would guess with twenty 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: nine they are going to be multiple plans um. It 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: will show us clearly how they're thinking in terms of 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: are are we absolutely win? Now? Are we putting all 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: of our eggs in the two? Didn't? Didn't free agency 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: tell us that it did, except for if you're going 75 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, then there's nothing wrong 76 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: with coming back on the back end and drafting for 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: best available player, which is what you're talking about. If 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: they do what you do, it's not all in for 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: two great. So a free agent may have told us that, 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: but yet you're raising the point that they might not 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: be doing that. So it's a question to wrestle with. 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think they're gonna go offensive 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: line in the first round because there's a thought here 84 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that if they go offensive line in the first round, 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: then you're building what Dallas had a couple of years ago, 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: where you can just run and run and that helps 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: your defense. So that would be a move that would 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: also be looking ahead to when some of those defensive 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: players are gone, trying to turn themselves into a team 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: that can be good enough running the ball that it 91 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: can help a defense that is not as talented as 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: it was. Maybe in two thousand six you could see 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: a blend of the two concepts. Right, use the first 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: pick for the best offensive player, but beyond that second round, 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: third round. Before free agency came, we had the conversation 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: here about they could use this entire draft on offense. 97 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: You needed you needed players everywhere, offensive line, wide receiver, 98 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: tight end, running back, you know. Um. But in free 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: agency they addressed everything. They got somebody to fill every slot, 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: including the trade for Cody Kessler last week. So now 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think I used the name 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown a couple of times, you know, as as 103 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: that right tackle. I've seen some mock drafts where Connor 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: Williams from Texas or Mike McGlinchey from Notre Dame right 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about the best right tackle prospect that you 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: can possibly get in here to shore up the offensive 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: line for the long term. But beyond that, second round, 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: third round, fourth round, defense, defense, defense might make more 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: sense because they went all in in free agency and 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: all in and this year they're all in in this 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: year in free agency, but in the draft they have 112 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: to think about nineteen. Yeah, I agree, and I would 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: be surprised if there's not a running back mixed in 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: there somewhere again because of the way they want to play, 115 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: and I just see them overall shifting over time to 116 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: a team that can be dominant enough running the ball, 117 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: where that is their calling card as opposed to maybe 118 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: the defense being all the calling card, which it was 119 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: last year well and the Ravens, gosh, forever, it seems 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: like they're Their calling card has been defense, defense, defense, 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: and from the Ray Lewis era through today, Baltimore has 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: been able to keep that defense at or near the 123 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: top of the league for years and years and years. 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: But the way that the Jaguars look like they're building it, 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: that defense is going to be together for two seasons, 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: two dominant seasons, and then you have to start replacing 127 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: guys quickly. Well, the thing that you hope happens is 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Miles Jack and in got way, And I 129 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Tellvin Smith, because I'm so good that they become trump 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: players that Jalen Ramsey, if you have to let one 131 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: of the safeties go, you're still a great defense because 132 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: he's so good. Miles Jack the same deal, perhaps in godway, 133 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the same deal. I don't know that he'll be the 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: dominant player over all the place Campbell is, but as 135 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: a pass rusher than he's dominant. So you hope that 136 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: your core guys that you draft well enough that your 137 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: stars can carry you when you perhaps don't have as 138 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: many guys who are considered frontline guys. Uh, that becomes 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: tougher because it puts a lot of pressure on the 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: stars and nobody better get hurt. But that's the reality 141 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: of the salary cap. If you're gonna have superstars, which 142 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is and Miles Jack I think is going 143 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to be, then it's a lot harder to have eight 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: or nine guys who everybody thinks of it. Oh, we're 145 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: set as a starter there. I just think it's interesting, 146 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, um as Dave and his team with Tim 147 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Walsh and John Izick built through free agency. In recent years, 148 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: they were basically two year intervals too of year blocks, 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and when you had guys like Jared Odrick and Julius Thomas, 150 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you already move on past those guys in two years. 151 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: You probably don't necessarily want to move on past this 152 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: group of players, but you're probably gonna have to because 153 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: of the way they structured it. But you're working into 154 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: your increments in the NFL now and you have to 155 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: be thinking, all right, what are we gonna do after that? 156 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Um probably worth saying this every time we do the show. 157 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: The draft has never been more important to the Jaguars 158 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: that that and not the first round. I'm talking third, fourth, fifth, 159 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: sixth round. Undrafted free agency guys like a J. Boyer 160 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: and Andrew uh Norwell um are undrafted rookie free agents 161 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: who hit it big, but you paid big. You gotta 162 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: go find some of those guys now because that will 163 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: allow you to keep your team together longer. At those 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: lower numbers. The draft is paramount, and the good news is, 165 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: you know it's it's easy to lose perspective on how 166 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,239 Speaker 1: well the Jaguars have drafted in fourteen and sixteen. In particular, 167 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: when you consider the draft class of fourteen, uh an 168 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: inordinate number of players have resigned either with this team 169 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: or with other teams. Colvin Robinson, Lee Bordles, Brandon Lender, 170 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Telvin Smith. That's a huge number for one draft class. 171 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: And then the sixteen draft class. Obviously, when you have 172 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Miles Jack and e and I Unique and 173 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: got Way, they obviously need more drafts like this as 174 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: much as they've built through free agency, those two drafts 175 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: are huge draft for this franchise, and they put a 176 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on that scouting staff to do it 177 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: again because remember, the draft picks play at such a 178 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: low fixed cost compared to the guys that you're gonna 179 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: pay here in the next couple of years. All Right, 180 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about guys who are here and who could 181 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: be here. How about the guys that might be walking 182 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: through the door this week. It's a big week for 183 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: NFL teams as they host draft prospects. Sum are reported 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: to be in Jacksonville, including that guy Bulls owned Hayden Hurst. 185 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the value of a visit in big 186 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: Things when we return to Jags Drive time. On tune 187 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: in radio. What do you call a back of Jaguars 188 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: a Jamboree? 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Yeah, 211 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: and I know everyone's gonna be looking at the names 212 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: the tight ends. You know, we just alluded to John 213 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: who will be rolling through here, and obviously the Jaguars 214 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: will have some of those guys in um. Everyone's looking 215 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: for the names they know, the big names that they know. 216 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you two examples of guys who have come through. 217 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I remember they rolled in um Uhs the tight end 218 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: from cow Everyone knew that, right. He spent a lot 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: of time in this general area because they didn't know 220 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: what to do with him, and so he'd go make 221 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: a visit with you know, scouting staff or whatever, and 222 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: then he'd end up back over here. And with him 223 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: was a big, offensive looking guy. He was a defensive 224 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: tackle and his name was Seth Payne from Cornell. And 225 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I can remember being on the clock in the fourth, 226 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: fourth round and saying to somebody, I wonder I wonder 227 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: if this is that where they take that big tackle 228 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: from Cornell. Sure enough, Seth Payne comes. It is a 229 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: productive NFL career. Yeah. Yeah, and more and more in Houston, 230 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: where he became a household name because he was a 231 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: dominant zero technique you know, nose guard. Um, one of 232 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: the better nose guards in the league. I'll give you 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: more recent example two years ago. Uh, they're rolling players 234 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: through and back then we were allowed to talk to him. 235 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: We set up a little set across the hallway and 236 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: we'd interview him, and incomes this defensive end from Maryland 237 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: and I had to ask him, how do you pronounce 238 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: your name? Uh, it's Yunique in gon Quay right again, 239 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: not a guy that a lot of people knew. And 240 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: when they were on the clock in the third round, 241 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: I got a text from my brother in law who' said, 242 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: what are the Jaguars gonna do here? I said, try 243 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Unique and Gockway. I think the Jaguars really liked him. 244 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: I did when I interviewed him. He had great answers 245 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: to the questions. And sure enough, here comes Unique and Gockway. 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, the first you know, big name guys, there's 247 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: value there there's more values for guys like that Unique 248 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and Gockway. Yeah, and it's important to keep these visits 249 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: and perspective in the sense that everybody this time of 250 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: year gets really excited. Whether the Jaguars talked to so 251 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: and so with the Senior Bowl, and they talked to 252 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: so and so with the Combine, and they interviewed him 253 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: here at some point, Teams interview pretty much everybody somewhere. 254 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: This has value in terms of, you know, if there's 255 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: thirty guys here at some point the next week, realistically 256 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna draft two of them. So it's still the 257 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: odds are that most of the guys that he would 258 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: get excited about. I think Orlando Brown is one of 259 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the names. For example. Well, that's great, except there might 260 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: be a fifteen of their teams. Also, interestingly, this isn't 261 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: the only visiting. It gives you an idea of a 262 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: direction they might go. The fact that there are a 263 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: tight end certainly gives you. It confirms what we assume 264 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: and if they'd be looking at that crop. I tend 265 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: not to get overly excited about the guys who come here, 266 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: just because it's hard to know if they're actually going 267 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: to be here. But to me, it overall, percentage wise, 268 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: gives you some sort of feel for the direction they're looking. 269 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: And the fact that they're tight ends offensive Lineman certainly 270 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: makes you think that those are possibilities, you know. And 271 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: talking about the value of the visit, right because Jack 272 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: will see these guys on tape, they see them on 273 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: the college campus, they talked to their coaches and the 274 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: staff at wherever university they play. They get them in 275 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Indianapolis in many cases, you know, So what's the overall 276 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: value of the visit? And I can remember there was 277 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: a question that we talked with Yunique about and then 278 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: those players that year, and it was it was about money. 279 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: And his answer about money was great, I like it. 280 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: His answer was his answer was it it's not that 281 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: important to me. The money isn't my driving factor. And 282 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: somebody from the scouting steps and so, you know, what 283 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: would you think they were just you know, quizzing find it? 284 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: What did you think of the guys? They weren't taking 285 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: notes or anything like that. But I remember saying, hey, 286 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: I asked him this question. He gave me this specific 287 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: answer about what was important to him. And I remember something, Oh, 288 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, they're looking for every little piece of information. 289 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: And it's not just when the coach sits down, it's 290 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: the interaction maybe with the secretary up front. How was 291 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: he when he walked in? Oh, they said, good morning. 292 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: He was a nice kid. I liked him. All those 293 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: little things, every little Again, really low on the Totem 294 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: poll in terms of the value overall. Too. They want 295 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: to be exactly. They want to know how they're going 296 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: to be here in this environment. And I'll bet that 297 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: it's more important to unique next off season when he's negotiating. 298 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: But he said it wasn't his driving, right, And your 299 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: point is that they always like to see players in 300 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: different situations. They like to see him under pressure, that 301 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: team around other players to see it. If they're guys 302 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: who sort of take the initiative and lead in the situation, 303 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: that's more important at the combine. But anytime they can 304 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: get guys in situation where they're interacting, then you can 305 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: see them beyond where you're just interviewing them face to face. 306 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Often they're so rehearsed at the interviews that they don't 307 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: get a real feel for the guys. So those conversations 308 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: just it's important when they circle back to somebody they know, 309 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: talk to the player when the player wasn't really on stage, 310 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: and find out what kind of guy was because they're 311 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: not here to run a forty or to you know, 312 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: lift the bar and how many times can you press 313 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: to or take the wonder lick. It's to see what 314 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: kind of a person they are in these kinds of settings, 315 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: the kinds of daily settings and interactions that they'll have 316 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: with people. Back to Ashland for Big Thing three, A 317 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: big thing three Spring is here, sprunk, hunt, sprung, whatever 318 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: you want to call it. April is a big month here. 319 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: See to the franchise in April nineteenth, where we'll get 320 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: to look at those new uniforms. The draft three short 321 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: weeks away. O t S on Mayo. That's the starting dates. 322 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: Some fook a happening here pretty soon, guys. Yeah, we 323 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about it, John of The first 324 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: thing is is that on the sixt two weeks from yesterday, 325 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: right the out of season program begins. So the guys 326 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: who are going to be here are going to come 327 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: in and start working out, stretching that kind of stuff, 328 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: and that's really their starting day. O. T A s 329 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: are when they're on the field, and that's when fans 330 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: sort of think is the off season program starting, but 331 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: the off season program in terms of their conditioning, in 332 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: terms of being here with Thomas lyndsky In, in in terms 333 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: of starting the process of working towards training camp for 334 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: the players, that's when that begins, and that's when they're 335 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: downtime is over a few wills, but it's not started. 336 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: It's not mandatory though, And I you know, I think 337 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: we've all heard grumblings that they'll be guys. You know, 338 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: we've got this roster is different than recent years. You've 339 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: got some talented guys with some some wide perspectives on 340 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: the world that travel and are involved in business opportunities. 341 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that you're going to see every player 342 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: here every day like we have in years. And it's 343 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: the old thing. If you're if, if you're good enough, 344 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean I would think players such as Jalen Ramsey 345 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: Leonard for Nett. It's it's usually higher profile guys who 346 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: aren't um the It's all okay as long as you 347 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: show up into say and as long as you're ready 348 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: to go. A guy like ja I have no idea 349 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: of Genlevy here or not. But in that case, most coaches, 350 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: most football people will tell you it's fine if you 351 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: don't show up. I was an Indie for ten years. 352 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison never showed up at an O t ALL. 353 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: It's in the Hall of Fame, so nobody cared. So 354 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: that's the drawing point, and people talk about chemistry, etcetera, etcetera. 355 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: I think younger players generally should be here during O 356 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: t A s just or but during the whole thing, 357 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: just to be part of it. But as you get older, 358 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: if you're great, so well. And I think that's the 359 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: thing is the roster was more influx in recent years 360 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: and guys were fighting for jobs chs. You've got more 361 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: guys who are guaranteed jobs on this defense, and so 362 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I think the expectation is you'll see a lot of 363 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: guys rolling through here a day here, a day there, 364 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: but you might not see participation that you have in 365 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: years passed. Isn't as important. Yeah, the only position that 366 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: really needs to be here all the time is quarterback, 367 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: especially once they're on the field. It's it's it's always critical. 368 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: And you rarely see quarterbacks not in the off season 369 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: program because they know the value of their leadership that 370 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: whole thing. Everybody else is sort of a satellite around that. 371 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: It's not quite foot on the gas time, but you 372 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: can sense that it's getting closer. It becomes on April six, 373 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: becomes foot in the gas. All right, here we go. 374 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: Time for us to take a break when we return 375 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: O Zone snapshots Jack's Drive time on a beautiful Tuesday 376 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: morning here at Jacksonville, and we'll return on tune in 377 00:19:49,440 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: radio and Twitter after this stands. Experience EverBank Field like 378 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: never before. 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First one JP from Orlando Johnny with the 397 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Jags trusting their future in Blake Bordles, should they go 398 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: ahead and draft another running back in the first round 399 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: and run the old wing te First of all, I 400 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: thought JP was working on a shed all weekend, But 401 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: you know it's it's a bit of a sarcastic question. 402 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Obviously obviously not gonna run the wing t, but the 403 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: question does speak to the point that we talked about earlier. 404 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated, Brian to figure out where this team is 405 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: going to draft running back. Um. I go back and 406 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: forth one because every time I think, well, they won't 407 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: draft it until later, I think, boy, this is a 408 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: team that really wants to run the ball, and you 409 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: could see them taking the approach We're gonna be the Falcons. 410 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna be the Saints, who in the last couple 411 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: of years have had two headed running backs who were 412 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: absolutely dynamic and absolutely help those teams to the Super 413 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Bowl and to within a couple of games of Super Bowl. Um, 414 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: do you drafted that high two years in a row? Boy, 415 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: that's unconventional. Who's there though? But the way they want 416 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: to play, Uh, I could see it in the first 417 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: two rounds, either the two Georgia kids there at the 418 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: bottom of the second round one something like that. Probably 419 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: it'd be tough to pass on one of those guys, 420 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: especially because you want to play the style that Leonard 421 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: for Nette has right, and you know his style is 422 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: not gonna let him be active sixteen games. The chances 423 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: of that are as rare as the Jaguars chances of 424 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: getting their defensive starts right again this year. So what 425 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: if you could get a big, bruising back in the 426 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: Chub kid. I mean, I don't watch a lot of 427 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: college ball, but from what I see of the tape 428 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: and the analysis I read that he looks like he 429 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: plays that kind of for Nette style and he's sitting 430 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: there at the bottom of the second round. He's healthy 431 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: when he would be back to what you wanted to 432 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: be last year, which is for Nette starting uh, Chris 433 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: Ivory being they expected more from Chris Ivory last year 434 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: and that's why he's not back. Uh Corey Grant with 435 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: a change of pace, and then you have T. J. Yelden, 436 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: who's a very good pass blocker, third down guy. Um, 437 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: it's important. Remember when we talk about a possible draft 438 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: pick playing that backup role, that doesn't mean Corey Grant 439 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: not a factor. I just don't see Corey Grant as 440 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: the guy that they want. If for Net is hurt, 441 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that you want him starting three games 442 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: in a row. Well, I remember when Marty Schottenheimer had 443 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: Christian Nakoya and they went and grab Berry word right, 444 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: two big bruising backs, because boy could they run the 445 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: ball in Kansas City back in those days. All right, 446 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: back to you, Ashlyn, by the way, that was the 447 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: early nineties before you were born, right. I figured, all right, 448 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: ozone number two Stephen from Duval Mr. Oh roster looks 449 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: pretty set for starters. I think A. J. Cann is 450 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: the weak spot, but we could use an upgrade at 451 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: wide receiver and linebacker. I know we're almost set up 452 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: for best available player in the first and second rounds. 453 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: But what is your gut feeling for the first two picks. Well, 454 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, and it's so tough because of what we 455 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Brian free agencies skewed every because they're 456 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: so set up for being a perspective right right, it's 457 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: hard to I still think they're going offensive line and 458 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: or tight end both early with maybe a running back 459 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: in the third round. Um, it just feels like they're 460 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: gearing up to be that sort of team and that 461 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: they would like to be that much more dynamic and 462 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: strong at those three spots. And yet as soon as 463 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: I say that, I circle back to how much sense 464 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: it makes to take at least one defensive guy in there. So, um, 465 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of theories this month, and 466 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: I wish I had a better feel for a gut 467 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: on where they're gonna go. But I think they created 468 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: that by what they did in free agency enables them 469 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: not to have to be desperate during the draft. I 470 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: have read and talk to people who have told me 471 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: that this is a very deep draft for wide receiver, 472 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily elite, but you look at the Miller kid 473 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: from Memphis or the I forget his name, the kid 474 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: from Colorado State. I mean those are guys that will 475 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: be available in the third, fourth, fifth round, that there 476 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: are receivers to be had, that there are tight ends 477 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: that you can find, but the big guys go fast. 478 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: So I'll go with offensive line, defensive line first two picks. 479 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe running back in the third. That would make sense 480 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: to me because they want to run the ball. You 481 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: obviously have to be able to stop the run. Big 482 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: guys are at a premium. I could see them going there. 483 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: I could really see him this year. If somebody is 484 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: it is trying to trade into the first round to 485 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: get a quarterback, I could definitely see this team trying 486 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: to move back and pick up something in the second, third, 487 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: fourth somewhere. Because of what we're talking about that there's 488 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: really not a need position. You could see them being 489 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: willing to drop back five or six spots to pick 490 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: up an extra pick. And I'm always the guy who 491 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: says I never talked trades for the draft because you 492 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: can't predict it, but it makes sense in this situation. Actually, 493 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: you've got one more, one more. Let's finished up with 494 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Bob from South Carolina, seems to me that a pretty 495 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: big deals at the entire coaching staff comes back this 496 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: year knowing the player and the players, knowing the system 497 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: and what's expected. Therefore building on last year's success with 498 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: an important improved roster from day one. Yeah, Doug Marone, 499 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: every time he's talked publicly this year since the Championship game, 500 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: at the combine end the owners meetings, has gone out 501 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: of his way to mention that it's a rare thing 502 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL to have your entire staff back, because 503 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: usually you're either losing guys because you performed well or 504 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: because you didn't perform well. It's rare to have this, 505 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: so uh, they need to take advantage of it because 506 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: there is an element of continuity with Blake Bortles. There's 507 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: also an element with Nate Hackett and having Todd washback 508 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Hackett back. If they succeed this year, I 509 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: don't know that you'll get that again. Well, how many 510 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: times did Nathaniel Hackett say to us last year that 511 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles was in his first year in the system, 512 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: and how many how many times do you have that? 513 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: And look at how he improved in the second half 514 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: of that season. So that's to me, that's the most 515 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic is how much can Blake imp roof under 516 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett in the second year. How real is that? 517 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: Nate sure thinks that he's going to take a big 518 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: step being in his second year under him, and obviously 519 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: the team thinks. Saturday went side him. He had both 520 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: coaches and players learning the new systems last year. This 521 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: year it's just players and just the new players at 522 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: that which will be handful. So John, thanks too much 523 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: for Ashlyn Sullivan, Joe Fortunato with Patrick Kavanaugh, we appreciate 524 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: you joining us on Jack's drive time on a Tuesday morning. 525 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Have a wonderful afternoon, everybody, enjoy the sunshine.