1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: And the only thing I did differently was I put 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero in there and people said it was a 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: heat love, and no, it's not heat love. Tyler Hero 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: is averaging more points than Donovan right now. He's averaging 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: more rebounds than Donovan right now. He's averaging more assists 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: right now, and he's shooting hif percentage from the field 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: and three more. 8 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the O G's It's a Playmaker original 9 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: presented by Draft Kicks. It's just us dog like, it's 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: just us Dog talking ship. He's some fan questions before 11 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: we hit out the Bay for All Star Weekends. 12 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: I used to be before we had money. 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Now you're rich and we're asking for the money. We're 14 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: gonna start this episode off a little different, all right, 15 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: you d We're gonna go to some fan questions. 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Just listen. It's just our opinion. Yeah, I asked the question. 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: We have to give an answer. Yeah, don't light up 18 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: my DM with that. Bush's my opinion. Had to say that. 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: But it's always good to get a fan question, Coach, 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: we have the best fans in the business, great fan 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: and usually it's a guest on here, so we don't 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: get the questions. So now you're gonna get the questions. 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: I got all the answers to you got. 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: All, You got all the money wrong. Let's dive right 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: in which Big Three championship was more special and why 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: I got my answer? Let me hear yours. 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Wow, it's a great one. 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Can we go first? 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean because I'm going with the first one. 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Go you go first. I got my own reasons. 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the first championship was the most special one because 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: I hadn't had one yet. You already had. That's one, 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: So it's always be my favorite one. Two. If we 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: don't win that championship, who the fuck knows what happens. 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: We ain't getting the number two. 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: So so for me, number one by the last slide, 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: just because even even what we went through that season, right, 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: you go, you you have the ending of the season 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: like we had before, Yes, which is downas awful. Right, 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: lockout gets late start, get the bumping. Chris Bosh goes down, right, 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Love, I mean Kevin Love. I'm talking about Cleveland, Yes, 42 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: I mean, uh, Cleveland, But Chris Bosh goes down. You 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: go into Boston Game six, down three to two, they're 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: looking to close out. How epic that Lebron James game 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: was and then winning the first one. For me, it's 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's close, right, you get you don't 47 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: you don't want to favor to me favorites and when 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: you're talking about your children. But we just don't know 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: if there's a second one. We don't get the first one. 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: So and you'd already had one, so you're a legend. 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm not. Yes, That's why it's. 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: A lot of clutter in here, a lot of the 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: championships starting to run together. I'm gonna say the second one, 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: the second one, just because I've never been in a 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: situation where we lost game one and we were more 56 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: confident that we were going to still win the championship. 57 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember losing game one and okay see and 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: walking back in the locker room and like, oh, we 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: got these motherfuckers, Like it was the craziest ship in 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: the world. We had literally just lost game one and 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: we walked back in the locker room like, oh we 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: got these motherfuckers, like that's it, Like that was crazy 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: to me. And then we end up proceeded to run 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: off four in a row and win it. But obviously, 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: if everybody understood you know what. Okay, she was able 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: to do that year with Russ and you know, Jan 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Tard and KD and Serge Orbaka. I mean they were loaded, 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a good basketball team, 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: a good young basketball team. So even though we had 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Lebron and we had d Wade, I mean, they had 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: their own big three, and it was a younger version 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: of a big three. And I think people thought. 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: So you think you think two against San Antonio was 74 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: more important, it was your favorite over the okayc ones. 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: For me, it was I was already used to win 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: a kill. I don't want a couple. I'm sorry, I 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: already won. You know, I was used to winning already, 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: So you know, it's a little different from me. But 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the second way, you know, the second one started off, 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: you know, on the road, losing game one and walking 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: back into that locker room. And I never because usually 82 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: when you lose game one in a playoff series, especially 83 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: the finals, it's fucking panic, man, nervous. It's like, what 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: the fuck, listen, we lost game one, we can't lose anymore. 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: We go down two, We're in trouble. It was none 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: of those feelings. It was none of that. Remember we 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: walked in that locker room. We was like, oh, we 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: just let one go. 89 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you, man, like you try to express 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: as a player to friends, to family, to anybody else, 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: listen what playoff basketball and NBA Finals basketball is And 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: you said it there as freaking hilarious. So you said 93 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: it is, like it's wild the emotional roller coaster you're on. 94 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: You win a game, it's like, oh man, we fucking 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: win this series easy. You lose a game, like, oh 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: we have no change the end of the world. 97 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: You want to take a little walker to short Pier. 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: You get done. It's broke as my body was. I 99 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: think I was probably more emotionally wrecked than I was physically, 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: which says a lot. So I'm going number one. He's 101 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: going number two. 102 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, big question too, But I mean, listen, but what 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: I will say is one of my favorite moments is 104 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: as broken as your body was, knocking down them shots 105 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: with one shoot killing. That was one of the reasons 106 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: why it almost made me pick the first one. That 107 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite moments to be a part of. 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: You make those shows all fucked up like that. 109 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: Do you think the toughness is so associated with the heat. 110 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Culture sometimes has a negative effect when trying to acquire 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: players in free agency. The answer is absolutely not. 112 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, only if you're lazy, And if you're lazy, then 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: you ain't trying to win any motherfucking wine. We don't 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: want your lazy ass anyway. So I mean, for me, 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so at all. I mean culture. You know, 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: a standard is for guys that want to get better 117 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: and want to be held to a standard and want 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: to push themselves to be their best version. Obviously, you're 119 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: not going to be able to do that every day. 120 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: You have to have that structure, that coach of those 121 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: people around you, and that pushes you there. Now, that's 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: why we make it clear, and it's very clear about 123 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: the coachre that is not for everybody. We're not saying 124 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: this is the only way. This is just the minmi 125 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: heat wave. This is our way, you know what I mean, 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: And it's not for everybody, And some people are able 127 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: to reach their best versions in a way more lackadaisical, 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: less demanding, and less stressful environment. For me, I need 129 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: the chaos, I need to stress need I need to 130 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: be held to that standard every single day to create 131 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: that habit. 132 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: I think it's a fair question, but I think it's 133 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: flipped the other way. I think it's actually what attracts 134 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: people if you really want to win and you want 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: to be a part of something like going somewhere else. 136 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: In free agency or anything that you do, there's always unknowns. 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: With the heat, there's no unknowns. Yes, you know what 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: the fuck you're getting, you know what I mean. So 139 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: if you're willing to listen and sit down and really 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: want to focus on listen, man, like I think it's 141 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: it's not it's not. It's not a negative fact. It's 142 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: actually a positive thing. I think people look at it 143 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: like that's where I want to be because this is 144 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: what I want and there's a lot less unknowns right 145 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: when you want a free agency you never have to 146 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 2: experience this. You have free agency, but you never left. 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: I've been on the side of it. I've been traded 148 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: free agents. I've done it all right. The hardest thing 149 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: is the unknown. You don't know what they do every day. 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: You don't know how the operation works. Here, there's no 151 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: there's no questions. 152 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, bro, listen, there's been kd wanted to come, 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, Dang wanted to come. There's been guys that 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: have wanted to come, but there's a business side of 155 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: it that gets in a way sometimes. But there have 156 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: been guys that have given Miami attention and opened the 157 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: doors to making a move to Miami. Now the business 158 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: side of it comes into play, and it just hasn't 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: worked out. But guys have been wanting to come to 160 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: play in the city of Miami, you know what I mean. 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: And that's because they want to be a part of 162 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the culture. And the coach is winning, you know what 163 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean. So you know for me, And like you said, 164 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: there's the other side of it is if the heat 165 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: coature is pushing you away, then you're probably not a 166 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: worker anyway. 167 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: What was y'all reaction in the moment when Ray hit 168 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: the legendary three pointer in Game six? 169 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: Shit, I was like, Ray, get them goddamn get them 170 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: goddamn ropes out of here. 171 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, y get them damn ropes. 172 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Up out of here. Man. Listen, once again, you talk 173 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: about the playoffs and you talk about how much of 174 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: an emotional roller coaster. I remember being down on my 175 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: knees on that sideline, like just bent over on my knees, 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: like I'm praying watching that game, and then all of 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, Ray hit that shot out. I'm jumping up, 178 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: like just the emotional roller coaster, being able to handle 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: all those emotions still stay locked in and focused on 180 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: the task at hand, I think is what people don't 181 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: understand is the hardest part. 182 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: And that was a crazy That was a crazy game. Anyways, 183 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: we went from being down eleven going on the fourth 184 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: to going up to going back down. Misfree throws, eight 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: free throws, blah blah, tip outs. The thing you we 186 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: we keep saying the emotional roller coaster because even for me, like, 187 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: I was so fucking excited for about three seconds and 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I thought to myself was, man, Ray, 189 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: please don't have your heel on the line. Man, please 190 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: please don't have your toe on you don't hang bitch, 191 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: don't have your heel on the baseline on the sideline, 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: and don't have your toe on a three point line, 193 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: because I'm telling you man like, and we've touched on 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: it in this in our on our podcast before the 195 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: fact that Ray practiced that exact shot every single day, 196 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: but the fact that he could get those puppies in 197 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: between those two lines back pedaling like that is still amazing. 198 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: That's that's why to me when it when it went in, 199 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, oh, ship. But I'm like, man, 200 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: how the fuck did he do it? 201 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Because he fucking lay down in the walk in the 202 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: gym and he's in the jump up behind Like what 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: the fuck is Ray doing? But now I see, but he's. 204 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Got to have a size thirteen the right, much more 205 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: room than. 206 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: He got up out of the casket, got behind the 207 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: line and shot in the three he got. 208 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Up out of the casket, that was elit over, Thank 209 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: you Jesus. Shall you never know. 210 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Though, That's what I would say, man, I mean Ray's preparation. 211 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, we thought it was crazy, but you never 212 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: know when you gotta fucking get up off the ground 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: from chasing a loose ball and get behind the three 214 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: point line or a tip out and you gotta get 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: behind the three without looking down and get your feet 216 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: set and knock it down. And that ship just come 217 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: from hours of repetition. Though people don't even understand how 218 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: professional Ray was, you know what I'm saying, running on 219 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: the treadmill every day getting his shots. So, I mean, 220 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: that's one thing that I think you and I can 221 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: say about you know that that experience, it wasn't just 222 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: about winning championships. We learned so much. We learned so 223 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: much bro from some of the greats and why they 224 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: were great. We got to see it firsthand. 225 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: Man, it's it's it is. It was a a gumbo 226 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: soup full of routines and habits. 227 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: I like that, you know what I mean? 228 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: Like it literally was. It was like if for any kid, coach, player, 229 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: it don't matter a person that wants to thrive to 230 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: be good at something or great at something, I should 231 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: and be at a high level. If you could have 232 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: been a fly on the wall of that team. And 233 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: again we're biased the shit, but that team was so 234 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: dope for so many different ways. Guys buying in, guys 235 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: sacrifice the elite, elite, elite talent, and then just seeing 236 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: their preparations, their routines, their habits. It wasn't fucking holding 237 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: people's hands, man. It was guys that wanted to play 238 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: more minutes left, but we still did the ship that 239 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: we had to do every day for preparation for moments 240 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: like that. And it's just like, to me, it was 241 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: that's some of the stuff I take for anything I 242 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: do in life anymore was from that team, whether it 243 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: was a culture, from the organization, was it the locker 244 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: room camaraderie, was it? There was so many things, man like, 245 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: It's changed me as a as a as a person really. 246 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: And that's the biggest thing that you know, I think 247 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: you said because anything that I do in life, you 248 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When it comes to business and 249 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: different things like that, I understand the impact of the 250 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: people around you. I understand having good people around you. 251 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I understand having those uncomfortable but worthy worth it having conversations. 252 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: I understand what it means to push somebody to be 253 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: their best version on days they don't feel like being pushed. 254 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I understand what all those 255 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, and I understand how to do 256 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: those things because of being around that group. You know 257 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because what people don't understand. As much 258 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: as I might have wanted sometimes CB's minutes or sometimes 259 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: you might have wanted more minutes, we all cared for 260 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: each other. No, you know what I'm saying. Outside the 261 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: basketball court, you wanted to see CB do well. I 262 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: wanted to see Duyane do well, you wanted to see 263 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: d Wade and Brown. We all wanted to see the 264 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: guys that were playing in front of us do well. 265 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 266 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: It's crazy though, for even though another success, yes, even 267 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: though it was basketball, It's like it's really like it's 268 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: such a blessing. And again, this is not to be 269 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: corny or anything about it. Like with that team, it 270 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: was it was like going to a Ted talk or 271 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: something like seeing successful people in their environments. Right, it's 272 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: like it's getting free schooling. And I mean that like 273 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: like we've since we've had the Ogs, every guest that 274 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: we've had on that's been special in their field, there's 275 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: common denominators, man, and you see it. And when you 276 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: see it firsthand, you see you know again, you had 277 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: some seasons in Miami even though you're here the whole 278 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: time that weren't so success. I'd seen it. I've seen 279 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: being really bad and you start seeing why you're really bad, 280 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: why teams are bad. So like it was like it 281 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: was literally like getting schooled and getting like a doctorate 282 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: like that, you know what I mean, Because you're taking 283 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: Ray Allen, who's been doing this forever, right, you have 284 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: James Jones, who attacks it completely different. But yeah, you 285 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: got Lebron who brought it every single day. You see 286 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: d Wade in those moments, Chris Bosh, who was a 287 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: silent fucking assassin, like like Birdman, bringing his energy and 288 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: being him every day like and I mean this, like 289 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: our practices were fucking more lit than games, Like we 290 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: should have sold tickets to those. 291 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: And I think people would understand. I think, if I'm 292 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: not mistaken. Bron made a quote the other day and 293 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: he talked about the teams, and he talked about that 294 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: group and he was just saying, a group of dogs dogs, 295 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I think people understood how talented we were. 296 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how hard we work, how 297 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: hard we worked and hard how hard we worked against 298 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: each other because Iron literally with shomping iron every day. 299 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: It was a reason why put me on the opposite 300 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: team from c from Chris Bosh. You know what I'm saying. 301 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: It was a reason why he would put d Wade 302 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: on the opposite team from Lebron. You know what I'm saying. 303 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: It was a reason why because he knew that even 304 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: though Chris was on my team, I couldn't wait but 305 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: even though Brown was on d they couldn't wait. We 306 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: could not wait for those opportunities in practice. 307 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: Man, I'm glad you brother, he's a gangster. 308 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I love what people don't understand. Man. To watch, to 309 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: watch the evolution and growth of Spoe for me has 310 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: been has been amazing because I understand what people can become. 311 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: What people don't understand is when I first got here, 312 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I Spose was just rebounding for me and d Wade, 313 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously he was working his way up, 314 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: but nobody saw this. Nobody saw supposed being what he 315 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: is now. You know what I'm saying. I mean, one 316 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest that's ever done it. He's one of 317 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: the greatest that it's ever done it. He is literally 318 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: and you can't argue that that's been proven, you know 319 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, if anything, just looking 320 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: at Spoke, our careers have gone this kind of similar 321 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: because when I came into the NBA, nobody think that 322 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: I'd be here right now and had the career that 323 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: I've had and accomplished the things that I've accomplished, and 324 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of those things we've been able to do together. 325 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, a lot of those things 326 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: and the things that I supposed been able to do, 327 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: I've been right there with them, you know what I'm saying. 328 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Whether it be playing, or whether it be on the bench, 329 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: or whether it be just managing the locker room. You 330 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I've been right there with him. 331 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: And a lot of my successes and things that I've had, 332 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: I've just become, you know, from things that I've learned 333 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: being in that locker room, being in that organization. You know, 334 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: one thing about heat coaching and the things that we do. Yes, 335 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: not for everybody, but if you take it everywhere and 336 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: apply it, it works. You know what I'm saying. It's 337 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: not for everybody, but if you take it everywhere in 338 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the play, it works. Who doesn't want a hard worker, 339 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: Who doesn't want a motherfucker that's gonna be a out 340 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: of them? Who doesn't want a motherfucker that's ambitious as 341 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: hell is gonna always strive to be in his best version, 342 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: and if he doesn't, he's not going to accept that. 343 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: The only thing, the only thing I'm I would dislike 344 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: about my experience in Miami is that I didn't I 345 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: didn't live in the moment enough, man, Yeah, because I'll 346 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: tell you right now, like and we we've said it 347 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: on these the podcasts a million times, but it needs 348 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: to be said, like the emotions that go into that 349 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: and what you're doing and how you're going about it 350 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: is like you don't ever enjoy what you're actually the 351 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: fucking and people talking. I heard Kobe say, God rest 352 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: his soul, man, like you don't enjoy that part of it. 353 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: You didn't enjoy the practices and the stuff like this, 354 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, going to the base and doing training camp, 355 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: Like yeah, it sucked the time, but fuck you look 356 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: back at it like that was dope as ship. You 357 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: don't enjoy those like you don't you don't. I don't know, man, 358 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: it's hard to say. Like you just didn't get to 359 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: sit back and really fucking basking it man. 360 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Like we weren't built like that. Yeah, we weren't built 361 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: like that. We had Navy seal metality IP saying wherever 362 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: the fuck is at, we'll get it done. I missed 363 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: that for me, It wasn't. That wasn't when it was 364 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be fun for me. It was supposed to 365 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: be fun on the parade day for me. That's when 366 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: I got That's when I was able to see the 367 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: see the benefits of all the work, the journey, The 368 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: process was a motherfucker. It was a motherfucker every day 369 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: holding yourself to a standard. 370 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I lived that up a little 371 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: more though. What is the most hostile crowd you guys 372 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: played in at Carlos Perez? 373 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it's always gonna be Boston. It's 374 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: always gonna be the Boston Celtics, you know. You know 375 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of intensity and energy, and they 376 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: love their team and they don't like the other teams 377 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: at all, you know, So for me, they get behind 378 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: their teams. Man, when you walking that arena, it's literally 379 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: you a gust the world and you can feel it. 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: You can feel it on you, you can feel it 381 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: all around you. 382 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: I'll say this, the easy answer, and I think you're 383 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: right is Boston one, because it was a fucking rival 384 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: and they were really really good. Uh you know, first 385 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: year they have you know, Rondo Ray, Paul Ticket and 386 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: they're fucking gra goon squad man and they've been their 387 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: championship pedigree and won. Doc Rivers, a coach like so 388 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: that I mean, but epic places to play. Obviously, the 389 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: Garden on the playoffs is freaking in New York, Madison 390 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: Square Garden in the playoffs, it's freaking electric. But the 391 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: answer is Boston, just because of I guess the level 392 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: of it, the level Chicago is a motherfucker tuna. Remember 393 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: that opera singer out. 394 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: There, the number one opera singer, come out there and 395 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: get this. 396 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: We had some in Indiana as well. Indiana, Indiana, some 397 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: credit to yo. I mean that was a month. 398 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: East was a mother fan. 399 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: It was a motherfucking getting out of Indiana, bro a 400 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: motherfucking getting out of there. 401 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you think about that. You have Boston who 402 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: won a championship, number one seeds in Chicago. Indiana was 403 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: freaking big and physical and tough. 404 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: Thing with young little whippers Joe Kim, Yeah, Gibson Ship. Yeah, 405 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: that was a thundercat. Derek Rose at the time. 406 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, motherfuckers what the East was a motherfucker man. I 407 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: would give the edge to Boston, you know what I mean. 408 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: And that's been built over the years. I mean, we 409 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: talk about basketball culture, we talk about history that's been 410 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: built over the years. They have a reason to be 411 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: passionate about their basketball. It's not you know, it's not misplaced. 412 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: So you got to get credit. What credit do what 413 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Boston has been able to do as an organization over 414 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: the years. My brothers, y'all know that sound. It's time. 415 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: It's time to talk about stepping up your grooming without 416 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: stepping all over your wallet. 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Oh man, how to say no? 444 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 445 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: You got to learn how to say no. 446 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: He said no to me a lot. 447 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: I'll stop it. Head it out, head it out. Never. 448 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: You got to learn how to say no. Man. You 449 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You have to learn how to 450 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: say no. And you know, instead of giving people money, 451 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: put people in a position. You know. I think one 452 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: of my biggest decisions was to say no, I won't 453 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: give you money, but I'll give you a job. No, 454 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: I won't pay for your rent, but I'll provide housing 455 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: in my community. So the biggest thing I've learned about 456 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: my finances is that giving people money financially is just 457 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: putting dollars in their hand is crippling. It's just a 458 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: shot of whiskey. It only helps for a little bit 459 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: of time, and eventually they're gonna need another shot, you 460 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I've learned to empower people 461 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: outside of giving them money. I've learned to put jobs 462 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: in my community. I've learned to put housing in my community. 463 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: I've learned to find situations where you know, I can 464 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: put you in position to do the things that you 465 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: need to do without going to jail and getting yourself 466 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: in trouble, you know what I'm saying. So the financial 467 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: lessons I've learned man, is to you know, help people 468 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: be able to provide for themselves instead of trying to 469 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: do it for him. 470 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest things I learned in 471 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: it is because of the platform that we're on and 472 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: what we've where we're at and understanding you know, people 473 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: see what we make for money is finding things A 474 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: that you know and are passionate about. B that you 475 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: can impact that company or business. If you're talking about 476 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: just actually finances and investing, is how you can impact 477 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: that with outside of just money. Yes, and then just 478 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: because we're basketball dudes, we're hooped dudes. Do the ship 479 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: like you would a basketball team. Accountabilities, roles, responsibilities, and 480 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: literally understanding what you're getting into. Man like awareness, Yes, yes, 481 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: around people exactly right. You talk about the locker room, 482 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: man is is this is this is just even anyone 483 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: that's invested in my thing is like it's all about people. 484 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: Ideas come and fucking go. 485 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: Man. 486 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: I've heard the best ideas in the world, the ones 487 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: that have been successful, the ones like damn, I didn't 488 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: know that was gonna be a good idea, but the 489 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: right people were running. 490 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: It, and and and also in professional sports and outside 491 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: of sports, if you're doing anything just based off the money, 492 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, the money will come. Like 493 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: you said, working with good people, building relationships, having those 494 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: understanding that both of you have the same goals, you're 495 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: like minded. I think that's the things that will help 496 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: you be successful when it comes to business on and 497 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: off the basketball court. 498 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: Here's a good question, and you do. I want you 499 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: to take your sunglasses off, and I want you to 500 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: speak into the camera. Win C B ray On or 501 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: Birdman going on the podcast. 502 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: Man, Listen, ray, I just seen you the other day, 503 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Razor ride the bike, probably just run a seven mins 504 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: son played guess ray Son. 505 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw I'm coaching us last year. 506 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: That's all right, the other day, so that that should 507 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: be an easy one. Come on right, we gotta find. 508 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: Bird bird Man in a bunk or. 509 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Somewhere out here, somewhere out here, somewhere you heard I'm 510 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: calling him right now. He probably heard you too, come 511 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: flying bird flap and and CB. We gotta fine C 512 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: b Oh, yeah, it might be hard to find. 513 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: We we got dusty, It might be hard. I ain't 514 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. I want to dust them up. 515 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: I want to talk to him about the books he 516 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: used to read. In fucking the locker room. We've been 517 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: getting ready for the most ficking, excruciating game in our 518 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: livesn that mother be over there like this. 519 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm in the fucking locker room. 520 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: I said, Damn, this motherfucker ain't got and go out, 521 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: ball out, C be you a bad mother. 522 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: I'm in the motherfucking locker room listening to Tupac me. 523 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: I guess the world all eyes on me, uh, no 524 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: limit for the mother motherfuckers. And CEB's over here reading 525 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: the books and ya like, I'm like, hey, were you 526 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: listening to you? 527 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Limit? 528 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: No limit the motherfuckers and all that. I was ready 529 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: for for whatever killing ship. Listen. All I know is 530 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: after the game, all us ain't coming out. That's all 531 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: I know. We're gonna lose a few, so that's all. 532 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm literally in my mind getting ready for bloodshite. He's 533 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: over there reading Alan Powey Ship, Alan Poe Ship. I 534 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: don't understand, but whatever you need, Dog, whatever you need, Ceb, 535 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: let's go. 536 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: But guess it was a savage one tip. 537 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody had and that's everybody had their own thing. 538 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's why, Yes, go ahead and talk about shame. 539 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I ain't over there reading analyticals and ship. I'm like, 540 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: fuck them. It's trying to cut up his throat out. 541 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: But everybody had their own way that they got ready 542 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: to go out there and perform. It was interesting to 543 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: see Bron put his headband on fifteen times. It's all right, 544 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: it's straight this time. You ain't got to do it 545 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: no more. 546 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: Hold this motherfucker closes thirty six times. 547 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Close ship. That ship was crazy. 548 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 2: I'm telling you though. Man goes back to we said, man, 549 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: it was. It was a fucking gumbo of routines and habits. 550 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: Everyone was different. And if you sat back and you 551 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: saw it like ever you see every humans, Birdman would 552 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: be fucking interjecting. 553 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Crazy man. 554 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: Let me get that couple of mud. To get that 555 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: mud every time you walk in, use a cold ass hank. 556 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Let me get that foe shots. Let me tell you 557 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: what it is. Vent four shots, five pumps enough, five 558 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: punps vanilla one hundred and forty degrees dog extra, I 559 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: remember that. Yes, get that mud, Yes, sir, it was. 560 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: That ship was fun. But with that being said, that's 561 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: a great question. C B. 562 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Come on now, I got you. 563 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: Come on now, bird Man. 564 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: I know yea out here somewhere Ray, my son just 565 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: played your son the other day. 566 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: Now it's hard to get bird man. Oh you don't 567 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: have a cell phone. 568 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: You got to I could probably find bird people. Y'all 569 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: don't remember me and bird used to be the Bash brothers. Yeah, 570 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: the bas Brothers was planning to be professional wrestlers when 571 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: we retired Dog, it was gonna be a tag team. 572 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: That's been an leak tag team for whooped ass. You 573 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: could have been like I mean, Gen, You could have 574 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: been like I mean Gen, we walk out and you 575 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: walk out beside us. 576 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: Wait, motheruck mean I woulda love Ida love to me, 577 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: me and Gene. I'm gonna give you a bird math story. 578 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: This motherfucker was crazy. Remember that big ass like eighteen 579 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: wheeler truck thing he had, Yes, that had the freaking 580 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: semi horn or a train horn on it. Yeah, I'll 581 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: never forget this man. He took me to the airport 582 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: one day after price. First of all, he's going one 583 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: hundred and never and he and he get me high 584 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: the car like a small quarterback. First of all, you 585 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: understand how big that's It was a semi truck basically 586 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: barely fit in our parking garage. I don't think it did. 587 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: I think we had to walk out of the park. 588 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: Gretch get in the motherfucker. We get in it and 589 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: he's hauled up behind are like a Corvette or a 590 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: Lamborghini or something. He hits that fucking horn. I can't 591 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: imagine the ship that came out of dude. I said, 592 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: it's scared to shoot. I mean, I'm in a passenger seat. Hey, 593 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: but that tells you who Birdman is. 594 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: That's what Birdman doing is one of my favorite teammates. 595 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: Legend, Miss bird Legend, Mike Bro, did you ever consider 596 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: doing some ESPN Sometimes I let you d hold that 597 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: ship down? I did it. He's the lead at it. 598 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: I suck at it. 599 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Cut it out, cut it out. But I appreciate you do. 600 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: You're good at that ship. 601 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: You did it first. 602 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 603 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: You did it first. I mean I like talking sports. 604 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: I like talking basketball. So you know, for me watching 605 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: the game, I'm complaining about it. Anyway. People ain't doing 606 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: the right ship, so I might as well get paid 607 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: for it. It's hard for me to watch a game 608 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: of basketball without breaking it down and complaining about the 609 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: ship that ain't being done right. So like, if I'm 610 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: gonna get if I'm gonna get paid for a while, the 611 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: fuck not. I just gotta put on the suit and 612 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: be up early in the morning. That's the only part. 613 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: It's early too, but early early in the word. I 614 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: actually I actually enjoyed the ESPN. 615 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: At five am. 616 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: But it was time to move to cracking. Huh, I'm early. 617 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm up at five am early. 618 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, car Watch starts early. 619 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you got to hit that first take first, 620 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: you got to get up. You got first take. Then 621 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: it depends on what the schedule is for the rest 622 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: of the ESPN hit different things like that. But I'm 623 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: in my element with that camera. 624 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: Come on, killer, Yeah, you're doing lead jobs like work. 625 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: You're doing lead job, coach. I ain't gonna let you. 626 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad we talked about you're doing ESPN right now 627 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: because we have a new format for and we're about 628 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: to go out to the Bay Area. We have a 629 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: new format for All Star break for All Star Games. 630 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? 631 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, my initial reaction is I'm an old school dude. 632 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: I love when East West has went out there and 633 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: ficking bump. But I've also never been an All Stars, 634 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: so I don't know, you know, and I mean it's 635 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean it, I'm but I want to I want 636 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: to say something though, because I don't because I hear 637 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: the criticisms. Right, they don't play hard, they don't like 638 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: listen man with with with all due respect, the guys 639 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: that are in the All Star Game, have heavy lifting 640 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: the entire year? Yes, right. If you asked, if you 641 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: ask your fan base, if you ask your ownership, if 642 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: you asked everybody, would you want a healthy, good, uh strong, 643 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: uh Lebron James at the end of the season, blah 644 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: blah blah, the answer is always going. 645 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: To be yeses. 646 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: So again, it's it's not fair to me to answer 647 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: this question because the easy answer is an og and 648 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: loving the All Star Games growing up, I would say, man, 649 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: just East West, let's go fucking ride this thing out. 650 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: Let's see who wins. But I also, like I said, 651 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: never been an All Star. I've never one of those 652 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: guys that had to do all. I mean I had 653 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: times where I was one of the best players on 654 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: the team, but it was never like I was at 655 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: the All Star level, So it wasn't it's hard. 656 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't. 657 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what their bodies feel like, 658 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: I don't know where they're at. 659 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, my question is, how does this hit them 660 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: play harder? 661 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: I think that the same guy I think I think 662 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: it can. I think it can. The only reason I 663 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: think it can is because it's it's the forty. It's 664 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: not a long ass game. So you're not. It's not 665 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: gonna be grueling and taxing. 666 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: Can the day will be playing no minutes anyway in 667 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: an All star game. 668 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: But but I'm but I'm saying though, like like you're 669 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying in this situation here like this, the 670 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: format is dope. It's dope. I just, I just I'm. 671 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: Also drop that five hundred thousand. How you do it? 672 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: Every one of the. 673 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: Championship everyone maybe sixty they still want to extra five hundred. 674 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah they might, they might the last eight minutes you want. 675 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, I know, but this motherfuckers listen. If 676 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: the motherfuckers go for go for blood the last eight minutes, 677 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: then the fans got their money worth. 678 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: I think they can go for blood to the last eight 679 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: minutes now anyways, I think they'll be playing. 680 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, but nobody wants to get hurt. Respectfully, 681 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: I understand it. It's hard to get it. It's hard 682 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: get because you look at her. I don't understand how 683 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: changing the formats and make them playoff. If they're not 684 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna play, they're not gonna play. 685 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: Off, like I think. I think the reality of the 686 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: situation is we gotta we gotta take the All Star 687 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: Game for what it is. It's a celebration of how 688 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: good these motherfuckers are. Yeah, they are, and and if 689 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 2: you're gonna have them eighty two games and listen, man, 690 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: I am so thankful and blessed this NBA that this 691 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: thing exists. But it's it's it's you know, you can't 692 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: just keep whipping the horse. Yeah, two things can be true. 693 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: One hundred percent can be true. Like why not? Like, 694 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's been floated out there. I think it 695 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: would be really really dope. Is a one versus one tournament? 696 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: No, they ain't doing that. But I'm telling you, kill 697 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: these motherfuckers NBA. Motherfuckers are sensitive. They might want to 698 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: talk about how it cooks you in one I want 699 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: to hear that. I'm just telling you, nobody's gonna want 700 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: to hear that ship. I'm honestly, you think Ant want 701 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: to hear if he lost or funk that if Aunt 702 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: beat Shade one on one. You think Shaye want to 703 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: hear that ship, especially if he just walked away with 704 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: m v PA. All the fans that want to talk 705 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: about is how he lost at one on one, Even 706 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: if he want m v P coach. 707 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you. Nobody not doing That's why I'm not 708 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: saying it. 709 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: On two K, I ain't buying that she would be dope. 710 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: I ain't buying that. I ain't buying that one Yo. 711 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: Listen, I ain't gonna bullshit you. I would pull up 712 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: with popcorn, whatever the ticket costs. I'm watching that you. 713 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: These dudes are so special, bro. 714 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: They are killing. But what I'm telling you is they're 715 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: not gonna put themselves in to get We're talking hypotheticals to. 716 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: Ship. You're gonna find out who's a real dog. 717 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind it killer, but I just I don't 718 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: think kat. 719 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: That's night for I love that mothucker boy. 720 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: If I'm betting against KD, she is sixteen. Pull up 721 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: like he got to it, like he left his phone 722 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: when he gets to his spot, pop your ass, boy. 723 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: If he missed, the win was going. If he missed 724 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: when he got to the spot, the wind was blowing, 725 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't your defense. He got this spot and he missed, 726 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't your. 727 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: Here must be Let's be honest. Anyone that says they 728 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: shut down KD. He just missed a shot. Yeah, you 729 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: got defense But. 730 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: What I will say is what I do like about 731 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: it is the rising stars and the young guys being 732 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: able to be involved because the young motherfucker's gonna play hard. 733 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I will say, Old motherfuckers, don't play 734 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: to you boys, gonna kick your lasna bring the level 735 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: to motherfucker's gonna play. So that's what I like about 736 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: bringing those those group of guys into it, because whoever 737 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: wins that game is into the four team tournament. 738 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: Correct, yes, yes. 739 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: And those motherfuckers are gonna play hard. 740 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: Go back, go back to the format real quick, because 741 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious. I'm curious if Shaq, Chuck and Kenny, which 742 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: would be fucking hilarious by the way, are they picking 743 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: the teams and coaching. I would love I would love 744 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: to hear who's coach getting I don't. I don't know coach, 745 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: I don't. I'm I'm learning the format too. I'm just 746 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. But if Shaq, Chuck and 747 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: Kenny are picking the teams and coaching, that could be 748 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: really interesting in the huddles, that might be my c TV. 749 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of coaching. 750 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: They gonna I want to still East It's interesting how 751 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: they're doing it because now East West coaching right, Like, 752 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: how does that work? There's fucking fourteen drawing up plays 753 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: and ship So Shack, Chuck and Kenny are just the GM. 754 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: They just picked the team, their gms, their gms. We'll 755 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: see how good a gms are that. It's gonna be funny. 756 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun watching them young dudes. I think 757 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: the young guys, the young guys will make them play. 758 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: If you're gonna get you as, you're gonna get embarrassed. Yeah, 759 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the hardest part. It's always easy to 760 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: not play hard when the other people not playing home, 761 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: but if somebody else is harder not. 762 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: It goes back to when it just goes back what 763 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: you said about one B one, No one wants to 764 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 2: be embarrassed. 765 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: When I said nobody wants to be embarrassed. Now, So 766 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: you bringing that. 767 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: Group of young especially especially good dudes that are good 768 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: like like at this level because it's it's the reason 769 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: you're there is the ego too. 770 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: You bring that group of young motherfuckers and get they 771 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: get Stephan Bron in front of them, motherfucker, The motherfucker's 772 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: gonna be on go. 773 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: Let's go with the starters. Let's look at the starters'na, 774 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it at you real quick. What do 775 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: you think West and East Joker Joker, Katie lebron Chasta, 776 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: I argue with those Joanna's kat Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell, 777 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum. What do you think? I got it right? 778 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: I got it right. But I mean, for me, I've 779 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: never taken this is where this is where it's gonna go. 780 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: This is where it goes based on your team, based 781 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: on your individual accolades. Yes, and this is not a 782 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: knock on Donovan Mitchell because I love Donovan Mitchell personally 783 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: and as a basketball player. And Cleveland's got the number 784 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: one right now. But when I had this conversation, we 785 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: talked about ESPN and had the same conversation. I had 786 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: the same thing in front of me, and I had 787 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: the same list, and the only thing I did differently 788 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: was I put Tyler Hero in there. And people said 789 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: it was a heat love, and no, it's not heat love. 790 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero is averaging more points than Donovan right now, 791 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: He's averaging more rebounds than Donovan right now, He's averaging 792 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: more assists right now, and he's shooting high percented from 793 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: the field and three point so. But I do understand 794 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: that when you're playing on a great team, a good team, 795 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: and he's sharing with Darius Garland, Moby's got to get 796 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: his other guys got to get involved. That might impact 797 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: his numbers just a little bit. But across the board, 798 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero has better numbers than Donovan mentioned first. That 799 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: was the only difference that I put in first. 800 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: First, and foremost, Tyler heroes an All Star. Let's get 801 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: that out the way. Oh, for sure, Tyler Hero was 802 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: an All Star. I am a little bit surprised that 803 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: you did that because you you have been a winn 804 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: of your homeside that at one point, I think when 805 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: this thing came out there thirty five and four with 806 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: this the Cavs when it came out, when they when 807 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: the Red Stars came out, I think they were thirty 808 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: five and four. 809 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: At the time when the starters came out. 810 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 2: I've lost I've lost three of the last five, I believe. 811 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: But when they came out there thirty five and got 812 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: to check that, let's get a stat check on these guys. 813 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: When did this come out? 814 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 2: Huh when did this come out a week ago? 815 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: They were thirty five and four week. 816 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: Ago, I think so. 817 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. 818 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: Killer they were close. They're number one in the East 819 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: by the lands. 820 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: One number one in the East. Yes, this is true. 821 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: So what the fuck means that they hold started five? 822 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: Get in and nobody? 823 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: No, but I think that they deserve a starter. They 824 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: deserve starter. You don't think they deserve a starter? Listen, man, 825 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm a Tyler here. I love fucking Tyler. Heroll and 826 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: let me tell you something. He is an all star 827 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: and all fucking I'll die off and saying that. But 828 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, man, you're again thirty five and four? Yeah, 829 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: right now they're thirty seven and nine. Lost because they 830 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: were thirty five and four about ten days ago. I 831 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: think they lost three of their last five for the 832 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: last five almost positive. 833 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got I don't think they were thirty five 834 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: before a week ago. Kill them. But they have the 835 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: best record. This is true. They have the best record. 836 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: This is true. So why the fuck they don't got 837 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: too in? Why the Nicks got hold on? 838 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: Here? 839 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: Here we are? Here we are? Yeah. So they got 840 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 2: beat by the Rockets, They got beat by the seventy 841 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: six ers. They got beat by the Rockets again, they got, 842 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 2: they got, they beat the Suns. 843 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: They lost to the Pacers, so they lost four. 844 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: That's four. So they're based with thirty five and four 845 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: and five thirty five and five. My fault, thirty five 846 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: or five. That's fucking impressive. 847 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: Bro, It's still a regular season. 848 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: No, no, I agree, But that's what the All Star 849 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: Game is for. It's not again, I'm telling you right now. 850 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just surprised because you value winning. 851 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: I gotta look at numbers all Star and just about 852 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: heroes at All Stars. But All Stars is not just 853 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: about winning. I agree, because there's people that are winning. 854 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: But I'm gonnaut him in the All Screen Game. 855 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 2: I agree. 856 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: And if we're going to go with the team that 857 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: has the best record, then why don Cleveland have two 858 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: people in and the Nicks only got one. We can 859 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: switch that around because just as easily that Garland and 860 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: Garland can get in. 861 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: You know, that's about I'm just asking a bigger market 862 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: right there. 863 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm just asking though, if we're talking about the teams 864 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: and the records, then the. 865 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: Best sho. 866 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: I agree, just have two guys in. 867 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: I agree. 868 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean we can this ship ship Milwaukee can have 869 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: two guys in you can get that. You can have 870 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: a conversation why Dame's not in there. 871 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I don't disagree. 872 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: So if we're gonna have a conversation about why all 873 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: these guys aren't in there, I'm just gonna go to 874 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: the numbers to make it easy. And if you go 875 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: to the numbers and may get easy for myself, Tyler 876 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: Hero has better numbers. 877 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it goes the same thing, right like, 878 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: there's never I've never I'm never taking Steph out of anything. 879 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: The greatest shoot I've ever seen in my entire life. 880 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: But based on the they're being twelve eleventh or twelfth 881 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: and in the west right now, if we're serious, so 882 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: you're right, like this is an argument we can be. 883 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 2: It's a debatable thing because but I've never taken Steff 884 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: out of anything, so he's getting for sure. So it 885 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: goes against my point of the Donovan mitchellan. 886 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: So that year in the east right now, I. 887 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: Know I'm convidicting myself because I would never take I 888 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: would never like KD. I'm always putting there like Lebron 889 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: Katie and Steph. I've never taken out of there. They haven't. 890 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: Their team overall success has been good for any other 891 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: teams this year. 892 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, Listen, if Tyler hero numbers 893 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: weren't better, and there's. 894 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: Conversially Tyler heroes an all sort of, I love. 895 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: The conversation here numbers and better. 896 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: He's fucking got. 897 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: He deserves to be all start the boy handing out 898 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: thirty pieces like the wag he dropping thirty, dropping thirty now, yeah, 899 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: dropping thirty. So this is that was the only thing 900 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: that I it differently. But once again, this is not 901 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: a knock on down. 902 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: And when you know what I'm I'm with you staying 903 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: in the stay in the All Star Game is the 904 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: dunk contest Cooke. 905 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: Bro Possibly, Yeah. I don't know how many more dunks 906 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: they can do, Man, I don't know how much you hired. 907 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: They gonna jump unless you're gonna drop in from the ceiling. 908 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 2: Listen. I mean, yeah, I've been preaching this for the 909 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: last five years, after after Vince Carter and Gordon and 910 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: in fucking Blake Griffin and was in it. Yeah, That's 911 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, like, but but but you talk 912 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: about those guys like anyone that comes after them, freaking 913 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, bro, Yes, Like, I'm sorry, bro, Like, I mean, 914 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what else you can do. You know, 915 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: it's it's you know, I know, we gotta do it, 916 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: but like, and it's gonna be dope. But I'm not excited. 917 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm excited for these young kids. 918 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: But we can't even go back to the Zach Levigne, 919 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon. 920 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: And that's that class. That's actually, that's actually those classic 921 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: it's actually a great segue. Top five All Star moments 922 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: according to one you Donnis Haslam, you want mine, I'm 923 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: gonna give you one and then you can run. 924 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 925 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: The motherfucker walked into the locker room, looked around. As 926 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 2: the story goes, which one of you motherfuckers is shooting 927 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: for second and guess what he did on the last ball. 928 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: The rack didn't even watch it go in, gave the 929 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 2: crooked ass finger. Larry the Legend Bird is an All 930 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: Star number one moment for the kid over here. 931 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: No coincident, a few of them game, don't you pick 932 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: the one dope moment? 933 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: Don't moment dope moment? 934 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah fucking right. That is a moment. 935 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: Then he take his warm up. How about that? Which 936 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: one of you'll motherfucker shoot for second? I ain't gonna 937 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: take my warm up. Well, wasting time out here. 938 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: Another moment, boyd Wade got m v pH. That was 939 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: a moment for me watching Star Game. That was a 940 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: moment for me. 941 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 2: Vince Carter dunk contest. 942 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there. Okay, I'm gonna get there. That's 943 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: that's one of them. Because the Florida boy you go next, 944 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll go back. 945 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Vince Carter dunk contest. I think, 946 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: I think, I think just. 947 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: But that one for me was VINCETI. 948 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: Und percent. 949 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: For me. 950 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, man, the Vince Anti Max ship 951 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: was up it. 952 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: Florida Boys, Florida Boys, that team. 953 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: Awesome teammate. 954 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: By the way, they think we don't play basketball down 955 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: here in Florida. 956 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: Some man, your motherfucker water down here, because the most 957 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: ridiculous athletes I've ever seen in my life, not athletes, athletes, 958 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: at least athletes athletes. But that dunk contest, man, I 959 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 2: set it off, man, like no, I mean I have 960 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: one other moment that's before that, But that moment was 961 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 2: one that always like that was that was that one 962 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: unfortunately unfortunately almost ruined. Dunk content does until Blake and 963 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: then came around. 964 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: But go ahead, this is true. It's true, and mine 965 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: motherfuckers do it like that. Then the motherfucker I pointed 966 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: to the moon. Magic m what we talked about earlier, 967 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: talked about coming back, you know, after everything he went 968 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: through and playing in the All Star Game and how 969 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: he was embraced, you know what I'm saying, by those 970 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: guys out there playing with him, with everything, and then 971 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: to come back and win m v P. I think 972 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: that was a dope moment. Watch you know what I'm saying. 973 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: I was one of those guys where, you know, not 974 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: understanding the virus when I heard yeah, when I heard 975 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: I thought it was overflowed up, you know what I'm saying. 976 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: So to see that and then fast forward to see now, 977 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: if I could, fucking I could model myself after the 978 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: things that he's done, uh in the business world, I 979 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: mean I would, you know what I'm saying. I would 980 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: love to be on the fly on the fucking wall 981 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: in one of Magic's business meetings, just to listen for real, 982 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: just to listen look at what he's done with the Commanders. 983 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: Look at the Dodgers. Now he's attached hself to fucking winning, 984 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: iconic winning, and he's impacted winning. Shout out Magic Man 985 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: for sure. 986 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 2: Obviously I have to have to go this route, man. 987 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: Two posters I had in my room was Birds three 988 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: point and and MJ with the gold chain dunk contest. 989 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: That was cool. 990 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: No, don't come on man, come on with the gold chain. 991 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: Come on man. He was rocking rock by Babies from 992 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: the from the free throw line gold chain pops, the one. 993 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: Where they had the Chicago uniform but it was written curse. 994 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: Yes so dope. And again, these are these are like 995 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: my those are my all star because they impact me. 996 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: These are my all star moments, right, Those are the 997 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: things like yo, like I do anything to be out there, 998 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: and that stuff like him doing that Birds three like man, 999 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: come on man, this ship was him and dominicing at 1000 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: it like that ship was. That was fresh, gold chain, 1001 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 2: sweatpants on. Yeah. 1002 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: And these are the reasons why we love, no doubt no, 1003 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: because of moments like that. And then when you see 1004 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: ship like that and then you go home and you 1005 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: watch come fly with me. 1006 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 2: Come on man, come fly with me. 1007 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: Man, this ship was all motherfucking and you go to 1008 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: the park with your home, you come back and watch more. 1009 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: Come fly with me. You know what I'm saying. You 1010 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: feel me. 1011 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: We talked about the dunkle. Just give us a three 1012 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: point one this next segment. 1013 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh man NBP moments presented by Tommy John by three point. 1014 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: Moments Dams back to back champ coach yead Damn right. 1015 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: With Dame. Are we picking? Are we picking out? Are 1016 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: we picking our favorite? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, these are the contestants. 1017 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: No, no, they are anti contestants. Looks like it looks 1018 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 2: like Tom and John wants to put some big guys 1019 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 2: in the motherfucking. 1020 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean some big guys deserve to be in there. 1021 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: Cat one of two or three, the big guy deserved 1022 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 2: to be That's the last guy. 1023 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: I want it get big. 1024 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: Who else you put it in? The big guys? 1025 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean right now, not one right now where he 1026 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: has a slow release, he doesn't shoot it out, but 1027 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 1: right now, Joker leaves the league in three per percent. 1028 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm just staying right now. I love Joker, my young buck. 1029 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: I say he gonna be contest chance. 1030 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 2: The tongue kiss and jaws and winning the mother fucking 1031 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: three points. 1032 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he lead the league of three per percentage. 1033 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: No, no, that's one of my It might be my. 1034 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 2: I love the dude, but if no chance he's not. 1035 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: But the only guys, the only big that I'm going 1036 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: to put in there is Cat. If I'm putting, you 1037 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: can't want it, I'm doing. And cat shooting forty from. 1038 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: Read might not be bad. I be bad. 1039 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: Cats shooting forty five percent from three this ship? You 1040 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: heard what I said? What do you say? Cats shooting 1041 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: forty five percent from three this ship? 1042 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 2: Gosh, forty five forty five. 1043 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: Dirt was thirty eight for his career, not saying bat 1044 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: at three point shooting in dirt because I. 1045 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: Kind of sid big ever is kind of like you 1046 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: sound like you saying, just. 1047 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: No cat got cat got a gatling gun? Now he does, 1048 00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: got a galling got a gap. 1049 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 2: Speaking of gatling guns, let's talk about the catlan gun. 1050 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark are we are? 1051 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: We are? 1052 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: We are? We seeing the Kaitlyn Clark Steph from last 1053 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: year's Steph Sabrina. What we're doing? 1054 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: I think we switch it up. Man. We bring Kaitlyn 1055 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: Clark and were bringing another NBA player, We get somebody else. 1056 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: Tough tough spot for Steph to be in last year 1057 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: because did it last year? Yeah, and she came out fire. 1058 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you want a guy. Is it gonna be 1059 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: somebody who's an All Star that's already in the three 1060 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: point competition or just an All Star? 1061 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it should be interesting because I got a. 1062 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: Couple of names that I think that would that would 1063 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: be great to see in that situation, you know what 1064 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, once again, he's probably not gonna 1065 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: be a starter, but if he gets in, I would 1066 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: love to see maybe Tyler Hero, let's do it. I 1067 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: would love to see Tyler Hero. 1068 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: You get that done, can't we? 1069 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark? Why not? You know what I'm saying, that'd 1070 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: be a good one. 1071 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we get that done. That's it. 1072 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: That was pretty up last year. But you can't put 1073 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: no guy. You can't put a scorer out there because 1074 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: Kaitlyn gonna light his ass up. You gotta get somebody 1075 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: out there that can shoot. You can't just put a 1076 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: guy because he ever twenty seven. Oh yeah, we're just 1077 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 1: gonna throw him out here. No, They'm motherfucking g shoot. No, 1078 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: doubt can shoot, right, you got to you gotta get it. 1079 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: You got somebody out there that could shoot ka geezer 1080 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: track and compete. 1081 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 2: Man, I like it. 1082 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 1: That'd be interesting. That'd be interesting. I think it'll be fun. 1083 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: What about Winby we're talking about bigs in the three 1084 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: point competition. Winby three? He average nine. Three is a 1085 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: game killing nine a game? Yeah, would you like to 1086 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: see Womby out there? I mean I would, I mean, 1087 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: ship I would. 1088 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he's I don't think he's one of 1089 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: the best shooters in the league, but it'd be fun 1090 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: to see him out there. I mean coming. 1091 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: From one of the best shooters that would play. 1092 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think he has a 1093 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: chance to be Yeah. I mean, listen, bro like that, 1094 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 2: dude's an alien. There's a reason that his logos an alien. 1095 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: The move's an alien. But right now, I mean, he'd 1096 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,439 Speaker 2: be interested to see for sure, be interested. See because 1097 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: he he gets him up in games. Man, so he shooting, 1098 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: he probably deserves to be in it. What's his percentage? 1099 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: Great question. I'm thinking he's around thirty five. 1100 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 2: Be interesting, But I mean, you're getting nine threes again, 1101 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 2: that's freaking elite. 1102 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: Bro, that's a lot of threes. 1103 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 2: Good for him. Thirty five Damn pretty good there, I say, 1104 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 2: shooting nine. I was on a dot pretty good coach, 1105 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: pretty good dot. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't mind seeing 1106 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, obviously special special talent man would be 1107 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 2: interested to see him in the three point contest. 1108 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: Or you know we we we you know we're talking 1109 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: about the greatest shooters though, you know we we dust 1110 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: off Clay clay Man. 1111 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 2: I had seven trays in the first cart. 1112 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: Clay and Kitlyn we. 1113 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 2: Stew an old school three point contest. 1114 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: Clay and Kaitlyn. 1115 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: We stood old school three point contest. Roll my old 1116 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: ass out there in a wheelchair. 1117 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: They killer. Hey, listen, you got a chance. Now got 1118 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: a chance. Listen, like listen, you like mahmes. I ain't 1119 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: gonna bet against you. That's what I ain't gonna do. 1120 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna bet against you. I ain't doing that. 1121 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: Ship As long as I play defense, I'll be straight. 1122 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: Yo. I just got my brand new Thomas john underwear. 1123 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: A man, your boy loved these. They silky, soft, breathable. 1124 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: I can shoot at him, I can work out of them. 1125 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: You name it. I'm always my best when I got 1126 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: on with Tommy John, I ain't gonna even lie killing 1127 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 1: these most comfortable draws your boy ever had. I wish 1128 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: I was still hooping and fellas, trust your brother when 1129 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: I tell you the ladies love these too. I have 1130 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: been personally told it matters what you put in your pants, 1131 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: my boy, what could be better? Tommy John is definitely 1132 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: the MVP of my underwear draw Fellas, don't miss out 1133 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: on the hype. Get twenty five percent off your first 1134 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: order right now at Tommy John's dot com slash OG's 1135 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: Save twenty five percent off at Tommy John's dot com 1136 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: slash OG's. 1137 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, before we get out of here, man, and 1138 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 2: we see everybody out there at the All Start weekend 1139 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, appreciate you all fans, bro for real, 1140 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: like subscribe follow man. You' all part of the heartbeat 1141 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 2: of this thing. 1142 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: Oh Jenny, best man in the world. Man, before we. 1143 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 2: Get out of here gives some mog advice before we 1144 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: dip out of here, brother. 1145 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: Og advice, Yeah, yeah, I would say for me is 1146 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: what we talked about earlier, and we talked about you know, 1147 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: business and different things. Man, don't compromise who you are 1148 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: to fit other people's narrative of you. Focus on being 1149 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: yourself and being your best version because most of the 1150 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: time everybody don't want the best for you. So just 1151 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: focus on being your best version, man, and don't change 1152 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: who you are to fit other people's narrative. Man, bounce 1153 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: to the beat of your own drum. 1154 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 2: You know, you know, I thought it was a gangster 1155 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 2: quote by the way that McClure the wide receiver from 1156 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: the commanders, what do you say he is pre game 1157 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: speech when he's walking out. It was basically just be 1158 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 2: you right, but say but be who you say you are. 1159 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: That's a great one. 1160 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 2: Be who you say you are, right. I was like, damn, okay, 1161 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 2: if you say you're a motherfucker dog, be a dog. 1162 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: Great one. That's a great one. And I would say 1163 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: that if you're a real dog, you don't pick it. 1164 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: And I always said, you're a real dog. You don't 1165 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: get to pick and choose when you be a dog. 1166 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,280 Speaker 1: Just who that's who you are, that's who you are. Yeah, 1167 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: I can allow with that. You're real dog, you can't 1168 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: pick and you was going to be a dog just but. 1169 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all. Man, Oh gz out. 1170 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 4: My my, my, my, my, my allow my