1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse the Clearinghouse of hot takes 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere and a 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: hello to you. The weekend has begun. It is time 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: now for another addition of The Fifth Hour with Ben 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Maller and Danny g Radio for the vast power of 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: I heart the global reach of podcasting, and we thank 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: you for finding and subscribing to this podcast. You were 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: in for a special treat. Not that the normal fair 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: on the podcast saw, but some shows stand out more 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: than others, and I am relatively confident that today is 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: one of those days. Someone who I wanted on the 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: podcast for several years but lost track of this person. 18 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: It's like my contact information for this gentleman had gone bad. Uh, 19 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: and that's a bad job by me. But I was 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: able to track him down. His name is Ross Porter. Now, 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: if you're in southern California, and you're of a certain age, 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: you know that name. That's a great name. Ross Porter 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight seasons as a radio broadcaster for the Los 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers. He started the nineteen seventies, worked to the 25 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: early two thousands, side by side with the great Vince Gully, 26 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: called some amazing games. Ross has had all kinds of jobs, 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: great jobs in his broadcasting career. We'll talk about all 28 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: of that network television at NBC in the in the 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: nineties seventies, and that was in the era pretty much 30 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: like Anchorman. If you saw the movie Anchorman, that was 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: the era. Ross was on television doing sports on on 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: NBC in Los Angeles. Some very important people in television 33 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: in that time. He's a member of the Southern California's 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Sports Broadcasters Hall of Fame and someone that helped me 35 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: out a lot. I've told the story a few times. 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: I worked for the Dodgers, the Dodger Talk, the postgame show. 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: But when I started on that, Ross Porter was my 38 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: partner on Dodger Talk. He had been doing the show 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: by himself, the season beloved Dodger broadcaster for so many years, 40 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and then I was this young punk kid that got 41 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: put on the broadcast with Ross, and he could not 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: have been kinder, could not have been nicer as a 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: someone that that helped me out. And I do appreciate 44 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: that a great deal didn't have to do that, but 45 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: I'm glad that he did so. Without further ado, we 46 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: welcome in now a legendary figure in baseball play by play, 47 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: did some NFL as well, as we said, the great 48 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Ross Porter joined us now in the fifth hour with 49 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Ben Mallory and Danny g and Ross. Welcome. And you've 50 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: had so many these amazing jobs. Is there a favorite 51 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: time in your broadcasting career that stands out? Ross? Then, 52 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: first of all, great to talk to you. Hadn't seen 53 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: you in a long time, and of course you have 54 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: read a terrific career. Really proud of what you've done 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: since I last saw you. Um, I've been very very fortunate, Ben, 56 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: and and everything I've done. I went on to radio 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: back in Oklahoma when I was fourteen years old, um, 58 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and I just took it up there. From there, I 59 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: went on to Oklahoma City. After I went to the 60 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: University of Oklahoma, I worked for the number one radio 61 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: and TV station in Oklahoma City. Came in here in 62 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: l a in nighteteen sixty six to Channel four. Had 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: ten wonderful years over there, and then I went to 64 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: the Dodgers for twenty eight So it's been wonderful. I've 65 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: had a great friends like you that have supported me 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: over the years, and uh, I've had a lot of 67 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: horrific assignments and very very grateful. Well, I want to 68 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: thank you Rust too, because I know I've mentioned this 69 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: in the past, but when I started doing stuff, I 70 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: was a young guy, not as young as you, but 71 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: you had been doing Dodger Talk by yourself for so 72 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: many years. You were a staple of that. In addition 73 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: to the great play by play, but after the game, 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: you would do the post game and you do the 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Dodging Talk show. And then management threw me into your show, 76 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: and you could not have been kinder and nicer. And uh, 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I know it's been a long time since we worked together, Ross, 78 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: but I do want to thank you for for helping 79 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: me out a little bit. My I as a young guy, 80 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: I was not good. I was not polished Ross when 81 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: I started out, and you you helped me. So I 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: thank you. Well. You were you were always a good 83 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: guy to work with, and yeah, I had teen years 84 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: been doing Dory talk and uh, then you came onto 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: a good job and you know it wasn't from there, 86 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: but it was. It was a good you do and 87 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: it was really good an opportunity to talk to fans. 88 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: And you know you probably saw this too. When you 89 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: were on. Fan would have called in the stutter and say, uh, 90 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I've never been on before now and uh, I'm real nervous, 91 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: and I said, hey, we're just two baseball fans talking 92 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So you 93 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: started when you were fourteen. I want to ask you 94 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: about that. When you're growing up in Oklahoma in that time, 95 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: how how were you able to get your foot in 96 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: you you started doing some games. I was reading on 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: the internet about about your early days. You you started 98 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: when you were, as you said, fourteen years old. But 99 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: how did that work when you're fourteen? It's pretty tough 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: to get behind a microphone. So how did that transpire 101 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: back in the day? Well, as it turned up then, 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: I lived across the street from the local sportscaster my 103 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: hometown of Shawnee, Oklahoma, and he knew of my interest 104 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: and at that time, if you can't believe it, at 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: that time, Shawnee was the Class D farm club of 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers, and he was also doing high school 107 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: football high school basketball, and so in the summer when 108 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I was fourteen, he said to me, hey, you work 109 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: him out the ballpark with me. As I said to Booth, 110 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, great, terrific. So how we go? And 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: one night wasn't the first night, but one night during 112 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: the commercial he said to me, how'd you like to 113 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: do some play by play? Well, about to drop my 114 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: teeth and that that got me started, and then about 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Four months later we went in the 116 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: high school football season and the station manager called me 117 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: one night at home on a Thursday evening. He said, 118 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: and you're going to the game tomorrow night, to high 119 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: school football game. I said yeah. He said, well learn 120 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: all you can because the other guy just resigned and 121 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: he's in town, and Nickle, you got it all yourself. 122 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: So two weeks before my fifty birthday, I did my 123 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: first full play by play, and then of course I 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: took it and I was there several years, and uh 125 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: went University of Oklahoma and worked on the students station, 126 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: then got a chance to have the number one radio 127 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: and TV stations in Oklahoma City w k Y, and 128 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: they hired me first as a radio newsman for forty 129 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: hours a week, but they also knew by interest in 130 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: the sports, and within six months I was on television 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: doing sports from the ten o'clock news at night and 132 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: the OU Football played play by play show on Sunday 133 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: which I recapped the previous day's game. And uh, I 134 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: had great six plus years there and I had a 135 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: chance to come to l A and uh there I was, 136 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: and I started off as the week handed sports guy, 137 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: and then uh Raypord Johnson, who was working the eleven 138 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: o'clock sports uh was the guy who helped take the 139 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: gun away from Sir and Surah and he never came 140 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: back to work after that because he Boughty Kennedy were 141 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: so close. So they moved me to the Monday through 142 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Variety eleven o'clock show, and when I worked with Tom 143 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: broke off for four years, and then after that they 144 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: moved into the six o'clock show, and I worked with 145 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Tom Snyder for three years, so I had I had 146 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: ten years their total until I got the Dodger job. Wow. 147 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: And in those when you get the call ross were 148 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: you were? You looking to go to l A or 149 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: did they contact you and say, hey, we think you're good, 150 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: we want you to come out here. Had that work 151 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: well one night then? And I, you know, I'm a perfecturist. 152 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: And one night on television sports showed okloumba city. They 153 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: screwed up some right, they need to put the wrong 154 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: film on, the wrong score on, or something wrong. And 155 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: that was really I was really upset. So I got home. 156 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: I said to my life, you know these people are 157 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: so amateurish. Uh, they'll never get it right. And then 158 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: she made a comment that she said she later regretted, 159 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: and she said, oh, we don't like it. Thought in 160 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: someplace else. So the next book. The next morning, I 161 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: was on the phone to a friend of mine who 162 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: had been one of the top film news cameraman in 163 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: the in the country. He had up called the city 164 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: and he had come. He had come to the Channel 165 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: four can NBC in Burbank. So I called him and 166 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: I said, hey, h do you know if they're looking 167 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: for a sports guy out there? And he said, hold on, 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: I'll call you back. So a couple hours are but 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: he called me back. He said he had the looking 170 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: for somebody for the weekend, so send me your tapes. 171 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: So I send him tapes and within a few days 172 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: I had a call from them. They said, if we'd 173 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: like your tape and will fly to l A. So 174 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: after l A I go. I grew up to the 175 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: main offices. The two bosses are there and they said, 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: we were really like what you're doing. We're running to 177 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: sign you to the contract. Here's your contract. And I 178 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: looked at the contract and then you know, when you 179 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: go from Oklaoma City at the l A, you expect, 180 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: since you're a major, major market, that you're gonna have 181 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: a big jump in salary, right, yeah, sure, yeah? So 182 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I looked down in my salary. Wasn't that much more 183 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: Ocumbic City? So I turned to the two guys and said, 184 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: I excuse me, um, can I expect to make more 185 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: money than this? And one guy looked at me and said, 186 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: if you don't, you will be here long? That's great. Well, 187 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. Right, I'm working in TV, back 188 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: before cable and the internet and all that. And to 189 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: reference this, and in that year Tom broke off course 190 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: and Tom start two legends. Uh in television and you're 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: working with these guys, did you know right away that 192 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, Tom broke Off was gonna end up posting 193 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: the nightly news for you know, a long time, or 194 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: or go somewhere in time. I mean, did you have 195 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: a vibe when you're working that was a power pack 196 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: catst of anchors at nbcase did I did? It was 197 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: very obvious he had a great deal of town and 198 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: the same thing was true to Tom Sinder had one 199 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and one of them moved into New York I think 200 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: a year ahead of the other. But they went on 201 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: to have fantastic careers and uh uh, and it was 202 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: wonderful the way it worked out. And then and then 203 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: the Dodger opportunity popped up for me and I left. 204 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: Uh I left Key NBC in nineteen seventy six and 205 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: start of the Dodgers in seventy seven. So the Dodger job. 206 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you that, because you know you you 207 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: were when I was a kid, you were staple doing 208 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: the Dodging games. But how did that come about? Because 209 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: because obviously Vince Scully, your friend, had been calling the 210 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: games since they were in Brooklyn. They had established the 211 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the you know, the broadcast team. And how did you 212 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: end up getting that dream job? With the Dodgers. Well, um, 213 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: what was happening? He was that then had made a 214 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: deal to go to CPS and UH. One day I 215 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: was out at the weekly Sportscasters lunching, which I'm sure 216 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: you attended to, UH, and Fred Claire was their advice 217 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: froend to the Dodger who said, I need to talk 218 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: to you. I said, well, I'm sorry for I'm good 219 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: an interviewer here at Farry Donna here and I don't 220 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: have time today. Well, I said, okay, I'll catch up 221 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: with you. So not long thereafter, they announced that Walter 222 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: also was retired and Tommy's gonna take his place. So 223 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I went to the news conference and UH, at the 224 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: end of news conference, after we've filmed, but I said, well, 225 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know do I take the tillback for bank 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: or do I just go over here and have a sandwich? 227 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: So I said, well, I'll get it, buy a teat 228 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm a little hungry. So I come out of the 229 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: food line and there's Fred and he's got a seat 230 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: next to it. He said, sit down. He said, here's 231 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: what I wanted to tell you, that is going to 232 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: go to the net. Were working. We're gonna need a 233 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: third guy, and I just wanted to ask you if 234 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: you had anybody you want to recommend. I took one second, 235 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: I said yeah. I mean. He later told my wife 236 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: he said I set him up perfectly because he was 237 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: by choice all the way. So that's that. Saw the 238 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, final week of the season. They don't play 239 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: on Thursday, so we had to. He said to me, 240 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: it's hey, I said, Frett, I haven't done a baseball 241 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: game in twenty years since I was at Oh, well, 242 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: we've got to have a tape but audition because we've 243 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: got two hundred people that applied for this job. Okay, 244 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: so we work it out that we're going to do 245 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: a clandestine appearance. Friday, I did the six o'clock sports 246 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: at Channel four in Burbury. I drove over the Dodger Stadium. 247 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: They set me up in the press box and a 248 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: dark and booth in the back. I took my own 249 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: tape reporter and I went in and what was happening, 250 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Ben was the Dodgers and the Potteries were playing, but 251 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: they were both out of that race. So it was 252 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: really Albuquerque versions of wife and he didn't you know, 253 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: you didn't know anybody. So my idea was, you know, 254 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: I'll warm up, I'll think maybe a half a then 255 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: it and I'll rewind the tape and start again and 256 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: go for go for bery Bro. Well I did that, 257 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: and I listened to the tape and I said, you 258 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: know what, that's pretty rivers. Don't even what I can do. 259 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: I might be better, it might be worse. Still with this. 260 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: The other part of it was that I had to 261 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: leave that night on a midnight flight. They got to 262 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo to do an NFL game for NBC. So I 263 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: gave the tape to another guy who gave it the 264 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: so and so with the thread. I took off and 265 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: first said, you know, call me Monday morning when you 266 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: get back. Okay. So I come back head on Monday, 267 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: and I called him in the morning. He said, we 268 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: really like your tape, but it's done to you and 269 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: one other guy, and we're going to take the two 270 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: tapes and send them out to Ben's home and let 271 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: him listen to him. I said, oh, okay, so I'll 272 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: get back to you. So four or five hours will 273 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: buy call me back. He said, Ben likes your tape 274 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: the best because he like you are more like he 275 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: and Jerry on the air, and by ten o'clock that 276 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: night I had I had a deal with the Dodgers. 277 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: And that's how I have that. On Wednesday, I wasn't 278 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: thinking been about leaving Cheneral Horne, and on Monday night 279 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: I had a new to you, to you to work with. Well, 280 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I did not did not realize it went 281 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: down like that. And when you were when you started 282 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: with the Dogs, you've been doing you mentioned you were 283 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: doing NFL games. We'll get to that in a minute. Ross, 284 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: But when you were doing the Dodgers early on, did 285 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: it just come back to you? You said you hadn't 286 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: done a game regularly in twenty years since you were 287 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. So when you started out early on with 288 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, was it was there a learning curve or 289 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: did you get it right away? No? You know, I 290 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: was very confident in my play by Floyd of what 291 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I did not have, and it hurt me early. I 292 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: did not have the anning notes about maging like basketball 293 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: players and what they had done, so like then did 294 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: that It was the master of it as we all know. 295 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: So my feeling was, I'm very statistic oriented and what 296 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I can do is a little bit different. Is is 297 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: lean on the numbers I have probably and I don't 298 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: say probably. I know I leaned on them too much 299 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: the first year, and uh I got a lot of 300 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: criticism for that. A lot of them was unfounded. I 301 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: mean they say, well, you know, Porter, he he told 302 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: us what Garvey was eating for lunch on Tuesday's point, 303 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: what he's battied every who that night. So I learned 304 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: as I went along to not do that as much. 305 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: And the criticism updated. And uh I had a wonderful 306 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: toy eight years and too to work with the greatest 307 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: baseball announcer ever was unbelievably uh fortunate. And I say this, 308 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: I say this all the time to people Ben, and 309 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I'll say it to you. I was with Ben for 310 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: twenty eight years. I saw him in every situation that 311 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: could be troubling to him. Fan stopping him for autographs, 312 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: fans wanted to picture with him, Srians wanted to tell 313 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: him about how they wanted to as field, and of 314 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: course they you should remember Ben this game that the 315 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: dog here in the Boston Braves and in the nineteen 316 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: fifty four. And the point is this, in twenty eight 317 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: years with him, I never ever saw him rude to 318 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: one person and he said driver has to be stopped, 319 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: that he was two minutes away from going over the air. 320 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: And to me, that tells the whole character. Well, you 321 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: know what talent he has on the air, but that 322 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: tells you what he is is a general group. Yeah, 323 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: a SUS operator. And I remember when I briefly was 324 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: was with the Dodgers on the road there they got 325 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: team would come in to New York for years and 326 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: there would be the group of old Brooklyn Dodger fans 327 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: outside the Hotel Ross that would be waiting for the team. 328 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty wild. I don't think that happens these 329 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: days anymore. It's been so long. But you mentioned the stats. 330 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: I gotta bring this up. You were actually an innovator, Russ. 331 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: When you when you watch baseball these days, the ross 332 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: Porter influence is on every broadcast. I feel like you 333 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: were ahead of your time with the stats, and but 334 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: you you had to do it though a different way 335 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: because there was no internet when you started doing the 336 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Dodger games. And and really it's only been the last 337 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the last fifteen years that everything is 338 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: kind of come to come to light with the Internet 339 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: and all the stats and teams front office is being 340 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: taken over by stats. But how much time do you 341 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: think you spend? I remember watching you in the press 342 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: box go to the sports ticker in the middle, because 343 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: that's how we got a lot of the information. And 344 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: you would be taking copy off the sports ticker and 345 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: you'd be taking your pen out and doing the math 346 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: on a lot of that stuff. Uh how did that all? 347 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: You mentioned It started because you found your niche. But 348 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: how much time did you spend ross while you're doing 349 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: the games around the games to come up with those numbers? Well, 350 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: I was spending some time, especially on the road. Then well, 351 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: you're in a hotel room and you've got a lot 352 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: of time catch the bus before the game. Uh, you 353 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: have time at home. I didn't hand that much time, 354 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: but I handed enough that You're right, there's no internet 355 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: to a new other source. And what I did early 356 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: on and I dropped it after about a year. I 357 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: decided I would do something I've never heard of before, 358 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: and that was I would keep a little blue book, 359 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: and on the blue book I would say, uh, let's 360 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: see here, Uh Steve Garvey against uh Tom Brownie, and 361 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: one they would go head to head, Garvey would go 362 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: one for four with a double, and I would put 363 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: that in my book and I did that on every 364 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: game and with every battered picture, and I used that 365 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: and again, maybe I used it too much, but it 366 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: was it was certainly something that was new among broadcasts. 367 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: And I thank you for saying that, because I've asked 368 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: very very often if I feel vindicated. I just insisting 369 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: that I used early and I've got to say, I 370 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know that I was vindicated, but I was very happy, 371 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: and you know, and I was a number of guys, 372 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: so that was that was easy for me. Yeah. And 373 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: when you watch baseball now most of the team's Dodgers 374 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: included in this, but you you watch games, the analytics 375 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: the term they use Ross analytics. Uh, they've got a 376 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: stat for everything. What do you think of the changes 377 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: of baseball though? Us? We've seen some crazy things the 378 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: last couple of years because of the pandemic. We saw 379 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: the ghost runner in baseball they're talking about I guess 380 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: did you get rid of the shift in baseball? Are 381 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: these good things? Ross? Uh? Where are you standing on 382 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: some of these changes coming to baseball the next couple 383 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: of years? Yeah, it's changed a lot, and you know, 384 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: I just like that that. Uh. I think that you 385 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: don't see many uh sacrifice hits anymore. The three running Homer, 386 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: which was earil weavers theory and American Lake has taken 387 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: over a lot. Um and I think, you know, small ball, 388 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: I think it's not what it years to be. Um 389 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: And I just always liked the National Links style of play, 390 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: and uh, I thought that it was a very good. 391 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Uh going to watch break Fall and let's let the 392 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: pictures batten and uh and let it go. But you know, 393 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: the game has come a long way and changes. There's 394 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: somebody right now I don't like at all, and I'm 395 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: sure you agree with me. But that's the way it is. 396 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: And uh so you know, keep going. Yeah, it always 397 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: is changing. In your twenty eight years calling the Dodgers, 398 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: Who's Who's the player that you thought was the best 399 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Dodger in your time behind the microphones, there one one 400 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: guy that stands out in particular. Oh that's tough, that's tough. 401 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: I've been asked that before, and it's hard for me 402 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: to put my finger on one guy. I say, I 403 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't see Sandy Kofax pitch in person. Uh, 404 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: and uh, I was down there when Drysdale was pitching. 405 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: So those two godgs were, you know, up there as 406 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: far as hilarity and success. And in the Hall of Fame, Dodge, 407 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: that was very good. That you're on a guy that 408 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: was I thought under rated. Uh for what he did. 409 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: He's the one of his picture in the lair of 410 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Dodger history. Uh. I did say this though, and 411 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: I said this before. The best hitter that I ever 412 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: thought I saw I was Tony Gwynn. Uh. Tony Gwinn 413 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: won eight Nationally Batting Championship and uh, he was the 414 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: probably the best hitter. But I have to say this too, 415 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: the we didn't do it in league baseball, so I 416 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: never saw George Brett And uh, you know you it's 417 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: that guessing game that hey, how do you compare a 418 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: guy from nineteen fifty two with a guy from Yeah, 419 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: it is tough. It is now as far as one 420 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: one period I want to ask you about Ross with 421 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, is Fernando Media when that when that came around, 422 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers are still benefiting from that rouss. All 423 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: these used. You know, there's generations of fans that became 424 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Dodger fans because of Fernando. What was it like, You're 425 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: calling those games in that period of time and the 426 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: whole town rallies around Fernando Valenzuela, what was what was that? 427 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: It was? It was an exciting time and uh, he 428 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: just kept doing it and do it and do it. 429 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: I think the first year, but I remember he had 430 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: like eight shoutouts and uh, he was just fantastic, and 431 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: of course the fans began to come out, and Uh, 432 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: very interesting statistic about that. My good friend and uh 433 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: all the fame announcer Homi Noreen is in his U 434 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: sixty four and the final years without your Spanish stepwork announcer. Uh, 435 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: he came up with tobaly this some time ago when 436 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: Fernando came to the Dodgers to start, Uh, the Latino 437 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: population at Dodger Stadium was like six or eight percent 438 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: and today it's like forty six percent. That's faggery. Yeah, 439 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: it's it's nuts. I go out there sometimes they're awesome. 440 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm it's and I think that's a lot of that 441 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: is Fernando. That that he started that wave and that 442 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: that that that is a amazing part of his legacy 443 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: with the Dodger. You mentioned earlier Sandy Kovax, I I 444 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: read and I don't know if this is true. You 445 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: did TV games like high school games with Sandy Kovax? 446 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? What was that? H what happened? I 447 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: was a channel for and somebody, not me, he came 448 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: up with an idea. And the idea was that, you know, 449 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: we don't do anything for high school athletes. We should 450 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: do let's say high school basketball. So it got over 451 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: to the program directors at desk and he said, yeah, 452 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: why not, we'll try it. So they started the high 453 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: school games every Saturday at noons. And so they came 454 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: to me and said, here, we're gonna do you're gonna 455 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: play play. We've got to find the follow our color 456 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: bouncer for you. So they talked about it and as 457 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: the other guy not me, said, hey, you know, NBC's 458 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: got a deal with Sandy Kofax, and uh, he's not 459 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: happy with his deal. They're not happy with him. They're 460 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: not using him to just sitting around. He lives here 461 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: in l A. And remember he was an outstandingy high 462 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: school basketball player in Brooklyn. In fact, he went the university. 463 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Says to that he on a basketball scholarship. Why don't 464 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: we try to get Sandy Well, they called him and 465 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I'll dood. So Sandy and I had 466 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: one year together doing it. One day, Ben, we had 467 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: a five overtime game between Beverly Hills and Aviation. Beverly 468 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: Hills won the game one with Rick Caesar, who was 469 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Sis Caesar's son, scoring forty points for Beverly Hills. And 470 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: that was the big game we had. And of course 471 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: that the testis say, was to get from the score 472 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: table after the broadcast to your car because everybody was 473 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: to go to stop Colfax to get it. I bet 474 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: to get an autograph. I love that you still remember 475 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: not only who played in the game Ross, but who 476 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: had the big game. And that is uh, that is tremendous. Now, 477 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: speaking of long games, I remember the story and you 478 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: told me this. We worked together, and I believe it 479 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: is still the record. Right. You were at the mic 480 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: for a Dodger game in Montreal against the old Expos 481 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: there and the game kept going and going and going 482 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: and going, and because of an odd series of events, 483 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: you were working solo. You you I believe you still 484 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: hold the record longest strategy I think it is. I 485 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: think it is. That was one of those three sitting 486 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: Eastern trip for the doctors, and then went to New 487 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: York and un Philadelphia. But he came home and didn't 488 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: go to Montreal. Well, Don and I went the whole 489 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: route and we got to Montreal all and Don and 490 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: I work, so it's a radio only the reason then 491 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: did go to arm for goal. There's no television games, 492 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: so Don, Don and I did the first game, we 493 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: did the second game, and at the end of the 494 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: second game, he got a call and his wife and 495 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: he was in labor in l a and he said, 496 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: I gotta get home, so see at home day after tomorrow. Bye. 497 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: And so my wife, my wife was on the trip. 498 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: So we go into the press box at Olympic Stadium 499 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: and over on the left to my left of the 500 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: booth is the Montreal French speaking announcers to my right 501 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: or himI and uh I think uh Ronny cargeists. They 502 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: were the Spanish speaking Dodger announcers. I was the only 503 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: English network there in the middle. And somebody said to me, 504 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: what would have happened if you'd gotten sick? And I said, 505 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: well lived would have that Our first debut as surely, 506 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: then the past, the mike past the mic to the wife, 507 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: but her, yes, that's right. So the games. The game 508 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: starts and it's nothing nothing for six and seven innings. 509 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: Lynn ranchman a note and says, can I get you 510 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: a coat? I wrote her back and I said no, 511 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have time to go to the bathroom and 512 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: get back show. It remains nothing. Nothing. We go to 513 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: the sixteenth in it Montreal loads the bases one out 514 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: and there's a flyball the right looks deep enough to score. 515 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: The women run catches. Many the guy tags or tried 516 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: to tag, came home and they're all tell everybody Montreals 517 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: won the game. But somebody at the Dodge adventure More said, hey, hey, 518 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: he left third base early. So the Dodgers throw the 519 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: ball down the third base and the unbar Bob Evans said, yeah, 520 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: he left earlier. He's happened. Then he continues that the 521 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: games they will go to the seventeen. So they went 522 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: six more innings after that and in the twenty second 523 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: and still nothing nothing. Rick Dempsey, who was backing up 524 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Mike Sosha that night, had played the last few and anything. 525 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: He came to the plate to face Dennis Martin's for 526 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: whom he was the battery made in boltible for all 527 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: those great years that Martiners head and dips at that time. 528 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: So August the Tory three, he had one home run 529 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: all year, and Martinis threw a pitch. Had Rick had 530 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: a low line drive and putted the left fiel fence 531 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: then and I think by one foot and it maybe 532 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: one nothing. Rick Sutler was playing for Montreal. He got 533 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: on base with two out, and Huddler decide he tried 534 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: to steal second age and Depsy threw about and the 535 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: game was over. The Dodgers and wanted one nothing six 536 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: hours and fourteen minutes English and he is it is. 537 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: It is still amor liquorate. And that is of those 538 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: records when you think about where baseball is at right now. 539 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: I know they're going to get rid of this, but 540 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: they have the ghost Runner ross in extra things now 541 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: and you what do you get the ghost Runner consider game? Yeah, right, 542 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: it's not good. And there's one other story that, uh 543 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: you might find interesting. Uh Game one of the World Series. 544 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: Oakland comes into Dodger Stadium to beginning and that night 545 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: my assignment was to did the post game show and 546 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: uh Oakland's leading that UH for three going to the ninth. 547 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: And so I leave the booth upstairs of the night 548 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: intentity to get down, Sir trying to get my guest, 549 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: and h Kurt gives him with not playing. And I 550 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: got down to the dressing room and there he was 551 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: sitting on to say, well, look at the television, said, uh, 552 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any shared on? Had they baseball pants on? 553 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: And that was all And about that time then said 554 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: to Joe gary Zola the telecast, Hey, Joe, I'll tell 555 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: you one guy won't be boy the night as Kirt 556 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Gibson because he can't walk. And and Gibson had heard that, 557 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: and he yelled Mitch Mitch Pool as a clubhouse and senator. 558 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: So Mitch came in and he said, good, Antelo sorder 559 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: that I can hit. So he goes down. He's gone 560 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. He comes back. He said, Tommy 561 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: says to tell you to get dressed and be ready 562 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: to go, but whatever you do, don't show yourself because 563 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't want totally to Russa to know you're available. 564 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: So Gibby gets dressed, puts the little whiffle ball on 565 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: the on the tee. Afterre it hits about eight or 566 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: ten balls into the mit upstairs, right above the tunal, 567 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: and somebody leans around in the corner and says, okay, 568 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: give me come out. So I followed Gibson down the 569 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: tunnel to the field and he took a step up 570 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: on that field, and you remember Ben, the crowd just 571 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: one absolutely bonker. Meanwhile, I'm looking out over the right 572 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: field bullpen and all you can see are red brake 573 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: lights of cars leaving the ballpark before the Before the 574 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: game that night, we had an advanced scout named Mel d. 575 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: D a wonderful guy from Louisiana, and he had been 576 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: scouting the the A's every game for two or three weeks. 577 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: So before they got started in game one, he called 578 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: the hitters in and among the things he said was, 579 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: let me tell let me tell you boys, for one 580 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: days with you And that Curdly comes in and account 581 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: go to three and two. You can bet your house 582 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: and he's gonna throw you a backdoor slide. So gives 583 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: who goes up? You know the count with the Brian 584 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: jew give me stepped down, said he thought about what 585 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Mel said, step back in to go one hit is 586 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: flowing in the back door slide her made his wow, 587 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: and you were right there. You were in the in 588 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: the dugout tunnel area. You were, you were down experiencing 589 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: all that's crazy wild. Yeah, Ross. I also want to 590 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: talk about the days in the calling NFL. I remember 591 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: we were in Milwaukee and we were walking through County 592 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: Stadium and you were telling me that you had called 593 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: NFL games like Packer games in County Stadium. But how 594 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: many how many years did you do the NFL? What 595 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: was that experience like for you? That was back in 596 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: the seventies, right the ninety seven. Yeah, I did the 597 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: NFL for YBYC from nineteen seven the nineteen seventy six. 598 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: And then when I went to the Dodgers, I couldn't 599 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: do anything alter NBC because the season is conflicted. I 600 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: couldn't look at Dodgers baseball season, uh down and go 601 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: to football games. So I had to I had to 602 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: bow out. But I had seven great years. Uh my 603 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: partner with Willie Davis all of favor for the Rebay 604 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: Packers and uh we had we had some some very 605 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: interesting games and that was a lot of fun. But 606 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: that was one of the benefits than working for NBC 607 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: in l A. And when they knew that I wanted 608 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: to do play by play, and they finally gave me 609 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: a chance to be one of the I against seven announcers, 610 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: a lot of them. I did regionals, is what it 611 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: came out to, and so I wound up doing a 612 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: lot of open writers Denver Broncos and San Diego Charger games. 613 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: But but we would also go to other parts of 614 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: the country. And one night Uh William had in the game, 615 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: I think in Buffalo, and we were run the way 616 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: home to l A because he lived in l A. 617 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Two and we get almost the Dallas and the pilot 618 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: comes on. The game is over a Sunday night. The 619 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: pilot comes out and says, folks, UH got a little 620 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: problem up here. The light here on the board. The 621 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: shows that we're not sure that our landing years. So 622 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna circular airport and come back and then then 623 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. So all of a sudden outcomes 624 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: the services that they said they're looking for the four 625 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: biggest guys on the airplane because they wanted him to 626 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: be at the front bro in case with crash land 627 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: they'll go up and throw the door open so everybody 628 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: can get out the emergency X. So here we go 629 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: circle back around. The guy said, yeah, apparently apparently they 630 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: don't see this, but we're gonna go in anyone. So 631 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: we looked down and hear all the fire trucks on 632 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: the roadway for for our arrival. So so, uh, we're 633 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: coming around to go back down again. And one of 634 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: the students then were absolutely crazy. She started screaming and 635 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: yell lad. They had to get her off, getting her 636 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: out of there, I don't go and put her to 637 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: the bathroom or somewhere to shut her up. And we 638 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: lay in it and it was okay. But that was 639 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: one of the experiences. Wow, was that? Was that the 640 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: craziest you You must have spent so many years of 641 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: your life on a plane ross with all these games 642 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: and and you know what they said, everybody put their 643 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: their their their hand between their lives, like that's gonna 644 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: that's gonna help. Wow, that's why what was the great 645 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: you were? Is there one NFL game you mentioned that 646 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: We talked about the nine Dodger game. It went twenty 647 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: two innings in Montreal, But was there an NFL game 648 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: that that stands out from those years that you were 649 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: called it was like the craziest NFL game that you 650 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: were behind them. You know, I really can't remember one 651 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: right that you thought that something a lancement at field 652 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: goal or something to win a game. I can't. I 653 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: can't remember anything like that. But I got you. I 654 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: got you. Well, what about the just in general, when 655 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: baseball was the king? And I love baseball still, but 656 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: the NFL right now, ross is uh, far and away 657 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: the top most popular sport, at least here in America. 658 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: And it wasn't that way right in the seventies. The 659 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: NFL was not the king that it is these days. 660 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: And what what what point do you think that took over? Well, 661 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right about that. And here's how old I am. 662 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: Then I covered Super Bowl one WOW at the Coliseum, 663 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Kansas City, and I was the weekend sports 664 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: aker and I've been on the job about three months, 665 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: and I want to have to cover the story of 666 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: the history was this. They couldn't get together on what 667 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: to do because it was the it was the the 668 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: a f L, which you just started, and of course 669 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: the NFL was and uh, they said, well we ought 670 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 1: to have a game, and you know, let's play each 671 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: other and get discarded. So they said, what we're gonna 672 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: name it? Well, they couldn't come up with the name. 673 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: And then Lamar Hunt, who was the owner of the 674 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chief, said, you know, um, I got my 675 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: kid a ball the other day. It's called a super Bowl. 676 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: Why why don't we you just call it the super Bowl? 677 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: And and Pete Roselle was the commissioner, and he said, well, 678 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: I I don't like that too much of the lot. Well, 679 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: they went around the table and the people said, well, 680 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, that's not bad. And so that's how the 681 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl was named. And you remember the third game, 682 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: Joe Naman pulled off the giant epsode when we just 683 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: beat the Colts, and and that that got it started. 684 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: But I really think that it really took off much 685 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: later than that. I would I would say, you know, 686 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: into the into the seventhies at least. That first game 687 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: was the January seven wow. And so the first Super 688 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: Bowl was not a big deal, right right than people 689 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: were just like, well, okay, well, here here's how big deal. 690 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 1: Was The main ticket, the best ticket you could buy 691 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: was twelve dollars. The most popular ticket was six dollars. 692 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: They had sixty two thousand of the coliseum, so they 693 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of them the seats and it's the 694 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: only it's the only super Bowl. Then that two networks 695 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: covered CBS did it, ABC did it, and uh there 696 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: was an interesting sure about that too. They yeah, they 697 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: went to halftime and h During the halftime, one of 698 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: the networks featured an interview with some politician or dignitary 699 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: or whatever. And they start the second half and they 700 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: kick it off and one of the networkers still with 701 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: the interview. So the guy takes the kickoff, brings it 702 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: back the tack lying downy goes. They said, wait a minute, 703 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: we can't have that. Let's redo that. So they got 704 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: the guy the politician off the air and they redid 705 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: the second half kickoff of the of the Super Bowl 706 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: do over will litill do over situation? That's yeah, that's 707 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: what What if the guy had return to the first 708 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: one for a touchdown? Yeah, exactly exactly. That's that's wild. 709 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to promote russtuff. If people are 710 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: enjoying this, I'm loving the conversation. But you have you're 711 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: all over the internet. Ross, You're you, You've got your 712 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. Ross Porters Sports. You've got some great 713 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: interviews on there. I saw an interview with Vin and uh, 714 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was bouncing around. Look at 715 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: some of the other stuff you've got. You've got some 716 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: old highlights from the past on there, so people can 717 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: check that out on YouTube. It's called Ross Porter Sports. 718 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Ross? Am I getting it right? That's 719 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: really correct? And fact, you don't even have to YouTube. 720 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: It'll go there and then you'll have two choices, the 721 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: YouTube version that you may have saying that has the 722 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: most to the interviewers, and and if you just go 723 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: Ross Porter Sports, you will get all of the bantering 724 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: that goes on betraying the people that we call members. 725 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting. I knew everything about UM doing 726 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: things like days and I was talked to the starting 727 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: a year a year and a half ago, and I 728 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: didn't realize that people themselves can contribute to the website. 729 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: And I wake up in the morning and my guy, 730 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: somebody's put on a picture of something that happened forty 731 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: years ago. Somebody else has a video they put on there. UM. 732 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: I just would never word that they could, you know, 733 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: help you out on the website. But I've had great success. 734 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: I probably have twenty five interviews now, people all of 735 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: whom you've heard and uh I know about and uh, 736 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed it. It's kept me busy. And uh 737 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: I sharted off. I thought, well, it won't be too popular, 738 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: but I'll started it, and uh it's turned into where 739 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: I have a couple of thousand people. Nice. That's great. 740 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: And you the one thing I love about your Ross 741 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: is you You've had all these great jobs and you're 742 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: still hustling. You're not You're not slowing down at all. Ross, 743 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: You're still going for it, and I love that about you. 744 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: You were doing north Bridge games on the radio here 745 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: for a while. I just I love the work ethic, Fross. 746 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: What why why the working? Why you don't want to 747 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: slow down at all? You wanta keep going? Huh? Well, 748 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: I just love what I do. And you know the 749 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: saying that why are they paying me for this? You know, 750 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: because you love what you do, you just do it 751 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: and you do it with uh with nothing in mind 752 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: except the enjoyment of doing. And that's that's still true 753 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: for me, Bed and I'm still going at it. That's awesome. 754 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: And any advice for Ross you want to give it. 755 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: I might be a kid listening to this that wants 756 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: to follow in your footsteps someday and be a big 757 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: league play by play guy. And he tips you picked 758 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: up through your career all these years doing these different jobs. Well, 759 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I asked by youngster over the years, 760 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: what do I do to get started? I said, you 761 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: go to shann in Oklahoma and try to get on 762 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: the radio station and football. Because I don't believe that. 763 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't believe that I have I have seven of 764 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: them all said. It's gonna hire you immediately to do 765 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: any any sports play by fall. Yeah, probably not, probably 766 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: probably not these days. But Ross, I thank you for 767 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: your time. I really do appreciate it. As I said 768 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: back back in the day, you helped me out I 769 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: was a young guy, and I love that you're still 770 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: doing it, and I will I subscribe to your YouTube channel, Ross, 771 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: so I I'm gonna get all your content on there 772 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: and I will check out your your other website as well. 773 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: So thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Damn. I'm 774 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: very proud of you, my man. And it's the place 775 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna do this. Get here right, absolutely